10/25/20 - The Jason Martin Show - Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, I was gonna start with college football, I was
gonna move to the NFL, and I'm gonna talk about
both of those things, but baseball kind of got in
a way. That's how we begin to Jason Martin Show
here on this Sunday towards the end of the month

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just don't find much that can duplicate what sports can
do for you. Even if you're not a gigantic fan
of a particular sport, there are moments that draw you in,
and then if the sport is lucky, those moments can
keep you there. I don't know what the numbers will

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be for what we saw in Major League Baseball on Saturday.
I don't know how many people watched. It was against
college football, it was against big time conferences. Even if
the games weren't particularly compelling in the evening slate, as
a lot of them became pretty laughable in terms of

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the deficits, but it's still college football and baseball. If
you're not a Raised fan, at least you had the
Dodgers in this thing. But but truthfully, again, sports can't
concern itself, The sports gods can't concern themselves with who

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ends up in the World Series. So once you get
to the World Series, then you want to see something
that really means something. You want to see something that's
gonna leave an indelible imprint on the people that watched it.
And for me, growing up as a Braves fan, the
loss to the Twins, but that entire series, I'll never

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forget it. I'll never forget to come back in Game
six by the Twins, and then Dan Gladden double stomping
the plate to beat us in Game seven. I won't
forget the walk off shot from Joe Carter to beat
us the following year, and of course I won't forget
when the Braves finally got it done. And then you

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get to I mean, obviously, if you're a Red Sox fan,
you can talk about Buckner long before. Certainly you can
talk about the World Series championships that the Red Sox
would finally win. But the World Series where I didn't
have a specific dog in the fight, although it became
very clear very quickly who I wanted to see win
the series was the Diamondbacks and the Yankees. What a

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great World Series that was, I believe in two thousand
and one, and it came down to a moment. I
won't forget Luis Gonzalez off his bat bloop shot wins
it off of Mariano Rivera and the d Backs win it.

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And it was a great set of games to set
it up. And then you can go probably Cubs Indians
the one game in particular that went forever. I remember
coming in the day after the Cubs won and doing
a show with Clay Travis for three hours on Fox
Sports Radio, where basically all we did was take calls

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and talk about how great sports were. And that's really
what I want to do here. I want to talk
about how great sports are. Because the Rays win on
Saturday Night eight to seven, come from behind. They were
down seven six in a game that was going back
and forth and was just unbelievably entertaining in all facets.

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They're down seven six, two one to count. It's about
to be a rap. Kenley Jansen is on the mound.
So Dodgers fans are gripping and and I think we've
got the call. Here is Joe buck on the call
with John Smoltz on Fox. They can take you through

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it better than I can listen to this cancer that
is in the center fan Pip comes Caerma. Phillips is
tied again. Hello's arena con full. Now he stumbles away Phillips.
Game four hero Brett Phillips, who's barely a guy that

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you see play, hits a single off Jansen, tying run.
Chris Taylor in the center fielder kind of muffs the ball,
kicks it around a little bit. That's got your heart
raising a little bit. Randy Rosarina, who's on first base,

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just takes off running. Immediately, Taylor throws it to Munsey.
Munsey's the first baseman, he's the relay guy. He's gonna
send it to Will Smith, the catcher. Somehow, Rosarina stumbles
on third. If you go back and watch this, you
might even overrun this. But he stumbles around third, and
so he's gonna be he's like halfway down. He's gonna

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get gunned down, folks by thirty feet, Like he's got
no shot and he's caught no man's land, and somehow
the catcher Smith drops the ball because it looks like
he's trying to tag an empty bag. If you go
and watch the shot, it looks like he's trying to

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tag an empty home plate. He's like swiping across, but
it's because the ball is not in his glove. He
swings around to go grab it, and a Rossarina is
able to dive home and they celebrate like they just
won the World Series. And I don't blame him, because
this was one of the most improbable things I've ever seen.
This was one sixt World Series, and I don't know

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that anyone has been alive to watch all one hundred
and sixteen of them. I don't know how old the
oldest person in the world is right now. And this
series was interesting, but wasn't memorable going into Saturday, and
now I can't wait to watch Game five, and we

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don't have very long to wait, do we. There were
so many things that went into this one play that
you could not have written it her hads, you scripted
it all from top to bottom. The Rays were summarily
outplayed in these games, and it's a Thai world series.

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I mean, you know, when Phillips gets to hit, okay,
we're going to extra endings. But it's everything that happened
after that. Listen to what ESPN wrote about it. The
emotional pendulum swung wildly in Game four, with the Dodgers
overcoming a pair of blown leads by the same relief
picture to put themselves in a position for Clayton Kershaw,

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the full crim of the team that has won eight
consecutive Division titles but lost in its two previous World Series,
tries to secure a title in his Game five starts Sunday.
See the up to one, they go up three one,
they can close it out on Sunday. Instead, it's too two,
and the momentum is certainly in favor of the race.

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I mean, the Dodgers bats are so red hot. I
tweeted out when Seeger gave him the lead in the
top of the eighth inning, maybe you pitch around that guy.
And I had somebody that I really like, a friend
of mine in sports media that was initially kind of
disagreeable to me, and he's just like, well, why so

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you can pitch to Justin Turner with two men on,
you gotta pick your poison here, and you want to
pick the poison with the least amount of guys on base.
And I understood that argument. But Seeger was so hot,
but so was Turner. Everybody seemed hot. But you can't
watching that live. It's just one of those where I

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can't even imagine what's on Dodgers fans minds right now.
Maybe you were talking about Bayes and some of the
decisions that Dave Roberts made again, which may plague him
his entire career as a manager in the game, but
you think about just the last four innings of this

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baseball game, and I challenge you to find something more
compelling than this turned out to be. It was just
great theater. We haven't had a whole lot of good
movies in because we haven't had whole lot of movies
in But that's what This was. Game four, fourteenth game

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in World Series history in which there were three or
more lead changes, but the first ever in which there
were three or more lead changes in the sixth inning
or later, fifth World Series game ever to end with
a walk off where the winning runs scored on an error.
Thirty four years today, meaning today, this Sunday, this is

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thirty four years since Bill Buckner's error in eight six
in Game six against the Mets. Brett Phillips, and I'm
just getting some of this from stats and Info and
Elias right now. Brett Phillips, who was the hero, his
third career postseason played appearance, first time he's done anything positive,

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third walk offering, a walk off win in race postseason history,
their first in the World Series. They're the first team
the rayshard to win a World Series game they trailed
entering the bottom of the ninth since the Royals did
it five years ago. I really incredible. Sports are awesome.

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I just tweeted out wow from Matt J. Mark Radio.
I just thought it's just under sports is undefeated. Man
who can't get interested in that, who can't get involved
in that, who now doesn't want to see what comes next?
Even if you didn't care a lick about this series

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until nine o'clock Eastern time on Saturday night and you
stumbled on it or you saw Twitter kind of going
crazy and saying, hey, there's a pretty good baseball game
going on. All right, I'll go check it out. Now.
What Yeah, I know there's Sunday night football. I'm a
football guy and I'm watching this. I watched Game four

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and now I'm gonna watch five. And if it goes sixth, great,
obviously it will. Now if it goes seven, fantastic. It's
just unreal. I mean, think about what happened yesterday, not
just in baseball, but I mean, look at the Penn
State Indiana finished, and I want to talk about that
in great detail before the end of this program. Look

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at some of the things that were happening. Even with
all the chaos and all the craziness of and the
nonsense in the election at COVID and hurt feelings all
over the place and people being silenced and everything else.
Sports is here to just pick us on up and

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tell us we're gonna be okay and remind us how
we can come together. This was just so much damn fun,
wasn't it. I know Dodgers fans might might have a
different feeling about it, and we'll bring in the l
A guys here in the next segment and talk to
them about it, because they all saw it. We all
saw this. I went back and I watched this after

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the fact like fifteen times in a row, because of
course it was all over Twitter. So the fifty second
videos right there, and every time I watched it it
was like I'd never seen it before. I haven't seen
a moment that had me that transfixed in a long time,
a long time. I would love to hear you. Maybe

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you can tweet me at j Mart Radio, or you
can call us if you'd like. I don't usually give
out the number, but eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
that's six three six nine. L A fans, if you're up,
would love to hear what you're thinking right now. But
tell me the last time you saw a moment that
was so preposterous in so many different ways that it's
just it's gonna be imprinted on your head forever as

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a sports fan. This has got to be on the shortlist.
I saw John Rossi, who I absolutely love. I've interviewed
and talked to him so many times. He loves baseball
so much, and he did like a minute video after this,
you can find it on his Twitter account for MLB Network,
and he was just talking about how this was one

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of the great sports moments of his life, one of
the one of the great sports games he's ever covered,
and it showed how great baseball can be. This was awesome.
Sports is awesome. That's why it's still bockles my mind.
I'm able to sit behind a microphone and just talk
to you guys with a grin on my face every
Sunday morning. Yeah, it's real early, and I hate to

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drive in. But then I realized, Man, I could talk
about sports to the United States of America for the
next three hours. And there are people that I respect
a lot that are actually gonna pay me money to
do it. It's incredible, the best job in the world.
But last night, it didn't matter if you were a

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big baseball fan, if you're if you're a sports fan
at all, or just a fan of great reality television.
You can keep your amazing races and your survivors and
all of that crap. To me, it's all garbage, Bachelor, Bachelorette,
all that nonsense. Keep it all. But you can inject

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what I saw last night in Major League Baseball into
my veins continuously forever. And if it's Heisenberg that's selling it,
then I will buy from Walter White and Captain Cook
until the end of time. That was just tremendous entertainment.
I really would Yeah, tweet me at JMR Radio and
tell me the last moment that that hits you like that.

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I'd love to just see the list of stuff you
guys would have and again if you want to call
us at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. There's
so much to get to, but we had to lead
off with that. I mean, there's a b in Tampa Bay.
There's an interesting slate of NFL games today, one featuring
two undefeated teams right here in the city that I
live in. The team that I cover is one of them.

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There's a wild day in college football. There's what instant
replay is designed to do. I got so much. There's
stand Van Gundhi to the Pelicans, Why I think that
makes sense? Just oodles of stuff, and then that baseball
game happened, and I'm just like, man, I just want
to see here and talk about how great sports is
with you for three hours, because sometimes you can just

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look at something like yeah that, like you know, the
time where you don't have to explain something, You just
point like anybody that you were around during that that
any questions about why it is that you care so
much about sports and why did you spend your time
watching all this stuff? It's like, I mean, it's just
get a bunch of games and you just point the screen.
You're like that that jackwagon. That That's why, that's why

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Fox Sports Radio exists. That's why Eric Roberts, Prime Finley
and Chris pop Fett or up in L A. B
and My Carew doing this for a living. That's why
I've got a giant smile on my face this morning,
because sports rules. We'll be right back Jason Martin Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, raised, come back out of

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no I mean, good, gracious sort of finish to stun
the Dodgers eight seven on a play that had everything
a stumbling bass runner, a bobble in the outfield, a
cut off throw that gets dropped by the catcher, a
dive that turns out to be the end of the game.

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It was unreal. I feel like the theme of this
show this morning is just that we are the embodiment
of Huey Lewis and the News when they put out
an album called Sports exclamation Point, and oftentimes we can
do that, probably on this show, but certainly we can
do it this morning. Let's bring the crew out in

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l A. All three of you. If you're there near microphones. Eric,
I know you're a Dodgers guy, uh this, and you're
a baseball guy on top of it this. I can't
even imagine what you were going through watching this as
a Dodgers guy. Maybe all of you are for all
I know, but just speak to how ridiculous this was. Yeah,

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the number of things that had to go wrong for
that to play out the way it in general is
just it's hard to wrap your mind around. Like sloppy
play from Chris Taylor in center field, a weird you know,
the rosarina or however you say his last name, coming
around the third base and tripping, and then you think, oh,
he's gonna get him. And then all of a sudden,
Will Smith doesn't have the ball on his glove and

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you're not even sure where it's at. I didn't know
where the ball was at until I saw the replay,
like the fifth time go across the screen. It's just
it's it's one of those instances where they were about
a game and a half inning away from exercising tons
of demons. You know, Kenley comes in, locks down a save,
sets up a curse. Shaw maybe he knows. However it
plays out tomorrow. It could have been Kenley finally comes through,

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sets up a curse Shaw when walk away World Series Champions,
And instead it's just the it's the it's the ugly
thing that's rearing its head back into the same thing,
the same narrative. You know, Dave Roberts banaging the bullpen,
weird um Canley can't come through the big moment, and
now who knows what happens tomorrow, I Kris Shaw comes
out and lays another egg. It's just it's the same
thing over and over and over again with the Dodgers,

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and it it was it was a tough one, like
not gonna lie that. This is one of the ones
where it's it's like, okay, this is not even like
like fun just to be involved in the World Series anymore.
It's one of those things. It's like, Okay, well, when's
the when's this You're gonna drop on us? You know? No,
I have to fade I have to fade Eric completely here.
And this is because this entire Foxworst radio studio here
in l A, like Eric is giving the opinion of

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a lot of guys here who are Dodgers fans and
man that this entire week has been just mood swing,
with your mood swing with these guys. You asked me
if I'm in a Dodge fan, I'm not. I'm a
Tigers fan. I'm all things Detroit. Uh. You know it's
funny because I know we've I've done the comps with
some of the other guys on other shows about these

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Dodgers teams compared to the Tigers teams of the Tens.
But I I'm focusing on the race here just because
it was a phenomenal play it. Yeah, a lot of
things had to go wrong for the Dodgers to blow
it here, but at the same time too it I
told my friend before where this game started, I kind
of wanted the Rays to win anyway, just because I

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think the World Series is better when you have a
longer series. If the Dodgers had gone up three one,
I would have probably put this whole thing to bed.
Now that it's too too, I mean, baseball is so random,
it could go either way. But it's been fun, it's
been competitive, and I think the Dodgers are still the
better team at the end of the day, in spite
of a lot of their fans kind of going neurotic

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and still wanting the manager fired even though there even
though they'll probably win, which I mean fair. To be honest,
I'm not I'm not my ears not too close to
the weeds on this particular thing. But at the same time, like,
I mean, that was just that that that was a
phenomenal It was a phenomenal sequence. And you want crazy
sequences like that in Baseball in the October, in the

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October Special, and just yeah, it was I don't know
seventeen thousand things thinly. Am I hearing you there? Yeah?
I hear air like I hear air, and I know
it's coming from a different studio, so I think it's you.
Are you a Dodgers guy, So I am a Padres fan,
that's right, I should remember that my fault. But I'm

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not one of those San Diego fans that gloats in
the misery of Dodgers fans. Actually really would have liked
to see the Dodgers pull out the wind here. But
I just don't understand, guys, when you put Kenley Jansen
out there, you are basically feeling like, if you're Dave Roberts,
you must derive pleasure from pain, because every time Jansen

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comes out there, under pressure on the hill, he pukes
every single time. He reverts to those bad habits, and
it's just dooming once again. I you know, I started
seeing long before it happened. Uh, this is gonna come
down to them having to put Jansen out there, isn't it.

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I saw that from Dodgers fans. I saw that from
the Fox guys. Let's go back Eric to s he
strikes out nine dudes. Roberts takes him out after four
point four four and two thirds innings. I see Dodgers
fans not happy about that on Twitter. Yeah, and then
you have the home runs coming off of Bias later
on in the game. After Bias gives up the three

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run home run, how is he still in the game.
I think that becomes maybe the biggest question of all.
But this is the problem for Dave Roberts is this
ain't the first time he's been called into question about
his roster management in the middle of a World Series game.
That becomes your issue if you're a Dodger fan, or
if you're Dave Roberts trying to hope to keep that job. Yeah,

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I don't. I'm at the point where even if they
if they, you know, I don't want to come back
because they're technically out behind. But even if they wrap
this up in however many games and they win the
World Series, I'm wondering if people will call for his
head even if they win it, win it all, you know, like,
how how deep is too deep of a hole for
you to even dig yourself out of? Even with the
World Series win? And not like you said, it's a
culmination of three and four years. You know, it's just

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every every every year, it seems like he's left. He's
called like he's just left standing at the altar because
of one mistake or one inning too long, or even
a post game today he said he was gonna he
was gonna pull buy us out, but then he let
buy us go back in and then the rest is history.
So and it's yeah, it's it's nothing goes right for
for Dave Roberts managerial wise. This time of year. It's

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like any pitching change, any move, it backfires him on
him instantly. And I get that, I get the numbers,
I get the analytics. Um, you know, Uh, it's it's
but it's I don't know, man, It's it's how did
you feel being in there? I mean I haven't felt
comfortable Jansen in like three years, to be honest, though,
It's like he's he's always he's always twerking, twerking, He's

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always tweaking something. Yeah, he's always tweaking something. It's always, Oh,
he's he's trying to work on something mechanics wise, and
he'll have it for two or three games and then
he he's off the rocker again, and it's like, I
don't know, it's it's confusing to me when you have
somebody like gradd Role, you know, the kid he throws
like one one on one and you throw him out
and I think he got the second and third out

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in the eighth in like, dude, flip it like it's
it's it's there right in front of you. I don't
know if you if I look at I get a
Jansen's like our best closes we've had, you know, and
and and Dodger history and all that. He has all
these records, He's got us to so many of these,
through so many of these gems in the past. But
you know it's not all the other treatment time. But hey, dude,

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you got at least you got at least you know,
be willing to change and he's he's even on records like,
oh you know, you're not you don't have a title,
you have a role. At this point in the year,
it's like, well, we'll dude, go up to Dave Roberts
and say, hey, let the kid that can throw a
hundred close it out and not me who who sometimes
has it now and sometimes does it a lot of times.
It doesn't greta role. I'm sorry just to put this

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out there. Greta Role only got that. He got the
last out in the eighth and I saw John Smolts
on television basically saying, oh, well he can get four
outs like that. They used to be able to get
four outs. Of course, wasn't given a chance to and
he was throwing heat. I mean he's throwing one. He
was able to get out of that because he's got guts,
he got the batter chasing. Yeah, and he's he's gone,
he's gone and sat down and come back in for

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another inning. Before and in these playoffs, I want to
say he's done it twice maybe, but yeah, it's and
you know, and then there's been other games where like
us one has gone in and he got a game
five of the lost against the Braves when he went
three three innings, six eight. We won't think about that. Yeah,
I know, start, start, start topic for you. But you know,
it's like there's there's ways around it. But it's just
it's like, you know, you keep banging your head against

(25:33):
the wall and think it's gonna get soft. It's not
gonna get soft, man. You gotta fix it. Go around
the wall, figure it out, all right, Chris, what were
you saying? No, I just wanted to get in here
real quick because I I imagine the the overarching story
just because it's the major market, just because you know
we're based here in l A. Or just in general,
the entire world knows the Dodgers a lot more than

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the Tampa Bay Rays. We've all seen the jokes on
Twitter about, Hey, we don't know who any of these
guys are. Why do they doing here? I just want
to because it's giving me massive flashbacks too. As I said,
I'm a Detroit fan, and I remember an OH four
when the Detroit Pistons beat the Lakers, and every time
I tune it, i'd go home and I tune into
Sports Center. I want to hear them talking about the
Pistons and what are they doing? Instead they're talking about

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what's wrong with the Lakers. So right now, right here,
I just want to say, Tampa Bay, I see you.
I see you, and I want to give you credit
because like there's there's some true heart and some of
these guys out there, like you had to battle back.
You almost gave it up to the Astros, and I
think everyone wanted to kind of see the Astros in
this world series just for uh narrative purposes. But Rosa

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Rain nuts like, I don't know if I know any
other guy out there. If you tumble over yourself, then
you just keep going and you're just like, yeah, I
can get there. Because I think most other guys after
a play like that, they would scramble back to third
base and they would just be like, all right, you
know I I'm not gonna risk it. Instead he just
he he stayed where he was and just kept advancing.

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And yeah, I mean, man, these rays, I think we
should get to know some of the names, just because
it is now a Tide series and we are going
to be talking a lot about the Dodgers here throughout
this because again it's the major market. It's I hate
to say it, but it's the coastal bias coming through here.
But yeah, the Rays, I get it. It's basically it

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was for the longest time, it was New York's place
where they go to do spring training. It's you know,
there's a place in north in kind of central Florida
that no one really doesn't really have much of my identity.
Yet for some reason, now has become almost weirdly the
hub of sports. And between the Lightning, the Bucks with
Brady and now the Rays. So I just I don't know.

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I didn't know too much of these guys before, and
now I'm just trying to do some due diligence and
just reading up on guys like a Rosaraina and Phillips
and just some of these guys who have not really
had a chance and now are just being asked to
do it at the highest level, the biggest games of
their lives. Yeah, and to tie World Series World Series
history from MLB Network, a walk off win, trailing with

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two outs in the ninth inning. It's happened three times.
Last time was nineteen the Dodgers Game one versus the Athletics.
Kurt Gibson famous home run we all remember that before
that seven Dodgers, so it was both the Dodgers. This
one was the Brooklyn Dodgers Game four versus the Yankees,

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a double that got it done. So this is the
third time we've ever seen it. I talked about John Rossie,
who who said and actually tweeted it out. I just
saw it pop up. One of the greatest nights of
sports I've ever seen, and of course he was on
hand there for the game. Just ridiculous. The Rays have

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been ahead after two of the last eighteen innings. Morosie
tweeted one of them was the ninth inning tonight, meaning
as the game ended, that's all that matters. The World
Series is tied. Brett phillips first career postseason hit turns
out to be the walk off shot with seventeen thousand

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other calamities happening around it a classic game, and you know,
you think about the movie that you love and then
it just doesn't have the ending you want, Like it's
just that one sucked. I always talking about Collateral, Michael
Mann film with Jamie Fox and Tom Cruise. Loved that
film right up until they took the easy way out
and made Cruise the villain and then I hated it

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and I never watched it again. When you've got a
movie that's rolling, you're just like, please land a plane.
Please have a great finish. An average film with a
great finish is awesome. A great film with an average
or bad finish can be ruined. Here, you had a
great film and a perfect finish, like uh, Kevin Spacey

(29:53):
at the end of Usual Suspects kind of finish, something
memorable and something that will that will get you to
stand up and cheer or just fall on your face
because you saw the thrill of victory and the agony
of defeat. And I'm sure you could see it in
living rooms across this country as well. Just phenomenal stuff.
Let's bring in Brian Finley. He'll tell us all about it,

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as well as a wild day in college football. Sorry
about old miss Oh my goodness, that was a game
that still hurts. And again, how about Alabama taking down
your Tennessee Vault? Not well, my my w k you
my Western Kentucky hill Toppers one with a crazy fourth
down fade route into the end zone and uh so yeah,
and actually I'm known to be an Alabama fan, so

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my goodness, there you go. Well, I gotta give a
shout out to the SEC referees for once again blowing
the game between Auburn and Ole, miss costing the Rebels
the loss. Hey Dodgers closure Kenley Jansen croaking on the
hill in the ninth inning as the Rays pull through
eight seven to make the World Series and two two

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tie Tampa's Bred Phillips hits an RBI single off Jansen
with two outs two strikes in the ninth and then
the Dodgers mess up the throw to home plate, enabling
the game winning run to score. Afterwards, Phillips took next
to no credit for the epic finish. What a great
team win all around. Holy Cow. Just proven why Kevin

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Cash is one of the best managers in the league,
using almost his whole lineup almost every twenty guys to
come together. Well, Phillips sounding fired up right there. Both
teams will reunite later today for Game five just after
eight p m. Eastern on Fox TV. In college football,
Indiana nicking up eighth ranked pen State thirty six to

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thirty five, and overtime Hoosiers Michael Pinnox Jr. Successfully Left
for the pylon to convert the game winning two pointer,
eighteen ranked Michigan submerging number twenty one Minnesota. Jim Harbaugh
is now eleven and fourteen all time as the Wolverine
said coach against a p top twenty five squads. Number

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eleven Miami silencing Virginia nineteen to fourteen. How about the
Canes grooving at five and one, number eleven b Yu
taking a crowbar to Texas State fifty two to fourteen,
Number nine, Cincinnati wolfing down sixteenth ranked s MU, the
Bearcats running for over three hundred yards. And then there was, Jason,

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the optimism around the Tennessee volunteers and their football fan
base that yes, maybe they were ready to turn the corner.
They had number two Alabama right where they wanted them
at home in Knoxville, and they didn't know, No, they didn't.
They didn't want them. Brian, I don't know what you're
talking about. Once the Georgia game happened, nobody wanted any

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part of Alabama in the state. True, forty eight to seventeen.
But isn't it something, Jason, you think about different college
football programs Tennessee, It's like they fan base thinks that
they're so close from getting over the hump, but then
you realize how far really they are. Yeah, we'll talk

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to Clemson fans before debos when he got there, because
it was the exact same story I lived in South Carolina.
Clemson fans acted like they were just around the corner
from a national championship and they never were. Was like
there had not been twenty years that had passed since
Danny Ford was the head coach at Clemson and they
were near a national title, and then Dabbo came in
and changed it around. So you're always one coach away

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from righting the ship. And Jeremy pruittt did have them
in the right direction. They did before the Georgia game
hold the current longest shriek and fbs for wins, but
they weren't against anybody particularly impressive. It was just, well,
it's SEC teams. And they came back and beat Indiana,
who of course made headlines beating Penn State earlier yesterday,

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And we'll talk about that game moving forward. But yeah,
and the Tennessee fan base has high expectations for a
team that really has not been in the mix at
the top of the East for quite some time. Right now,
they're trying to tread water in the middle of the
SEC East. They've got quarterback problems, they've got massive secondary problems.

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It's a mess, and they're going into their bye week
two and three with five games left to try and
salvage something out of this year. It's a tough one.
The good news, I think if you're Jeremy Pruitt or
anybody that's struggling this year is you're probably gonna get
a mulligan because it's also weird, and in a case
of a really bad coach, maybe the university doesn't have

(34:34):
the money to let them go because of the lost revenue.
With everything that's happened in there's a lot of different
things that are gonna go into the mix as we
get towards and pass this season that may keep guys
in jobs that shouldn't have those jobs anymore simply because
of the condition of the economy at the time. And
that's not anything we've really had to think about in

(34:56):
the past. But there's a lot of things have happened
this year that we certainly have not had to think
about in the past. What a game? What a game?
Just had Jim tweet me and say the last thing
he can remember was the Chiefs coming back against the Texans.
All right, that's true. That happened in the playoffs, and
that was wild to me. This was way more memorable
because it was one play and also just because I

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don't think any of us were shocked that the Chiefs
did what they did to the Texans, because you know,
Bill O'Brien's head coach to that football team. I'm gonna
try to stifle my laughter. You're also doing that that
entire postseason two. The Chiefs just kept coming back from
like three scores down. Yeah, that's right, It's absolutely right.
So I would love again to hear your thoughts at
J Mark's radio if you want to tweet me there.

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What was the last moment that you saw in sports
that that replicated the feelings that that you had if
you saw that raised Dodgers finished live last night? What
just incredible, absolutely incredible. I do want to talk about
stam van Gunny to the Pelicans. Uh, we'll do that
when we come back as well. There's tons of college football,
tons of NFL to get to, but baseball takes the

(35:59):
lead because what when you know, when drama hits like that,
when you go to the movies, you walk out, you're
telling everybody that you know about that, especially You're like, man,
I hope they saw this movie because I want to
talk to them about the ending. We all saw that
movie last night, and we all want to sit around
and talk about the ending. So we'll continue to do
that as well. The Jason Martin Show rolls right along
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The only hard decision is figuring out which way is easier.
Was in a bunch of hard decisions, but definitely some
important decisions Dave Roberts didn't make on Saturday. Dodgers fans

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not particularly thrilled about it. But what a finish? Whatn't
just a just unreal? Here is Josh tweeting me at
j Mark Radio. I said, tweet me the last time
you saw something that when you're watching that last night,
that final play that turned out to be the game
winner for the race off of Brett Phillips bad and
then just the preposterous Laurel and Hardy Abbott and Costello

(37:10):
routine that took place after that ended it. When's the
last thing you saw in sports that that reminded you
of that or had gave you that same feeling. And
we had Chiefs comeback against Houston last year. And I
don't think those two things are equivalent. But this one's interesting.
Josh tweets me and says the Thanksgiving game between Dallas

(37:31):
and Miami. If you don't remember that, that's the leon
Let game. He says, that one comes to mind. That
one's interesting, you know, the one keeps coming to my mind.
Chris Weber's time out in against North Carolina with Michigan
in the National Championship game, that Fab five club, and

(37:52):
that was a great basketball game and a great Final
four as well, because I think Michigan Kentucky played in
the five four and that was a classic. And then
Michigan with the Fab five now as sophomores against that
Derek Phelps, Donald Williams, George Lynch, I think Montross is
on that team that just loaded Carolina squad and it

(38:16):
looked like Michigan might have them, and then you have
the time out scenario and everything that's gone on since
with Webber in Michigan and everything else. That's the last
thing I remember, because it just it wasn't the last play.
That might be the only thing where it would kind
of change you a little bit because there was a
little bit of time left after this. I mean, this

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was it, like at the end of this thing we
saw last night, folks, I mean that was it. That
was it. And then you can even go back if
you would just want to say, well, other weird things
we've seen. We'll look at what's happened to the Atlanta
Falcons all year, and those comebacks and and the things
that we've seen. Sports are just awesome because they can

(38:58):
be so unpre actable. If you had a hundred tries,
you could not have come up with what happened last
night between the Rays and the Dodgers in the bottom
of the night to give Tampa Bay that win. You
couldn't do it like I could give you. I could
have sat you down an hour beforehand, or even right

(39:20):
before that place starts. We put it on pause. Let's
say it happened a day earlier. So I've got it
on some kind of a file and I just hit
pause on it right before that that starts before that
ending starts, maybe, and then I'm just like, tell me
how this is gonna end. You couldn't do it. There's
almost nothing else that if I gave you a hundred tries,

(39:42):
you could not come up with something pretty close to
what the ending turns out to be, right a movie,
a television show, a series. Maybe you think Walter White's
gonna die to the end of Breaking Back, maybe you don't.
Maybe you think he's gonna get arrested, maybe you don't.
But but you're coming up with things that are gonna
be closed. And if I gave you a hundred tries,
and you could put a bunch of options together and
they would be there. But who's coming up with Brett

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Phillips hits one, It gets misplayed by Taylor in the outfield,
the cut off throw gets dropped, The actual game winning
run is scored by a guy who trips coming around
third base and is gonna be out by thirty feet
like all of that. Nobody's coming up with that, But
sports is coming up with that. That's why we love this,
That's why we do this job. We got a lot

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of football to talk about. We'll do that when we
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(40:45):
first hour flew by and we talked about one game,
and I'm not done. I'm actually gonna call an audible
right now. I was gonna pull by as but I'm
gonna leave him in there. No, I'm just kidding. That
finished last night just unreal as the Rays win eight
to seven, and I said, hey, tweet me at j

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Mark Radio. We're in calls. Do you want at eight seven,
seven nine, not on Fox, but tweet me and let
me know the last thing that you remember in sports,
the last finish you remember in sports that left you
with the same fielding you had at the end of that.
And we're getting a lot of good responses there, and
I'll read a few of them here in a second,
join them if you would, But I actually, if you've

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got it, I want to hear that Joe Buck call
again because there's a real reason that I want to
hear this again. But just just listen to this chaos
cancer that is a fans Carmela Filips is tied again. Hello, Alina,
Come now, he stumbles Filips Game four. Here, that's Joe

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Buck on the call for Fox. Now. Joe Buck went
into the Hall of Fame. Remember he got He got
told in the middle of a Thursday night football game. Hey,
you're going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, just
like your father. And it was a really cool moment.
And you know, Bucks, Some people like Bucks, some people don't.
I've always loved him, especially calling baseball, but I think
he's increasingly gotten better at football and his voice just

(42:24):
works for me in general. I interviewed iro An Eagle
of CBS earlier this week. He's actually here in Nashville
to do the Titan Steelers game today, and one of
the things I asked him was, when you are set

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to do a game where there is a guy who
you know has a tendency to create highlight real plays,
are you keenly aware that your call needs to be iconic,
that you need to be prepared at any moment for
something special, like yes, anything can happen, But do you
do you have it in your head? Yeah, I'd better

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watch Derrick Henry because he might stiff arm Josh Norman
out of orbit. Or hey, DeAndre Jordan's playing in this
Clippers game tonight. He might posterize somebody. So I'd better
be really ready for this. Or O'Dell's in this game.
He might make a crazy catch. This thing could be
seen for decades. My call better be up to par.

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And I've heard Jim Nance discussed this as well, because
he script out the finishes to the masters. When you
notice Tiger is gonna win or Fiel's gonna win one
for the family, and all the stuff that he's done.
It's a difficult job and it's an important job. And honestly,
you know, I've called some high school games and things
like that in my career and it's the most fun

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that I've ever had. I love doing it. I love
calling games. But it's a real skill. Not everybody can
do it, and there are certainly levels. And I think
Ian Eagles one of the best in the business, and
he's all a lot of iconic moments and he said,
you know what, Jason, you hit You hit the nail
right on the head, because yeah, we do know. I
am keenly aware that Derrick Henry is in that game today,

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and so I need to be ready because he might
pop off a ninety nine yard or. He was the
guy I and Eagle was a guy who called the
ninety nine yard or against Jacksonville on Thursday Night Football
a few years ago. So think about Joe Buck the
moment down to their last strike the Tampa Bay Race
down a run Kenley Jansen on the Mound World Series

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game for a game that you already know is a classic.
If you're calling that game and you're Joe Buck, and
you love baseball the way he does, and you've been
around it for as long as he does, you know
that you are calling a classic. You know you were
calling something special, something that's gonna be replayed, something I'm
actually watching the replay off right now on FS one

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on the screen next to me here in this studio.
But even if you think something is about to happen,
like let's say Phillips does get the hit and they tie,
they tie the game, there's no possible way that Joe
Buck could have actually prepared himself for all of what

(45:19):
was about to happen. Now, if you listen to radio guys,
they're more in tune to give you detail. Kevin Harland
is one of the best at this. To me, he
goes too far, especially when he's calling a football game.
I think he's great, But a lot of the details
just like, yeah, I get it, man, But I have
a man alive. I don't need to waste high catch

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and all this other like a lot of it is
just it's almost too descriptive for me. But I'd love
Kevin Harland to death. But one more time, I want
you to hear this, Joe Buck calling. I want you
to think about again. Think about it from the announcer's perspective,
from Joe Buck's perspective, having to follow what is happening,
deal with the emotions of a baseball fan that he

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is feeling, and still giving us every bit of detail
necessary to contextualize this, and then finish it off and
land the plane. Watch how he goes through this, and
then you tell me why it's so obvious. Listen to
this and you tell me how in the world Joe

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Buck isn't in your Hall of Fame as a broadcaster,
because this, to me just the level of control that
Joe Buck shows in this call to me, this is
what's impressive. It's not even the words that he's saying.
Just listen to the flow, the energy, everything about this.
And if you saw the play, tell me how on

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earth anyone could have done it better than this? One
more time? Listen to Joe Buck. This is the final
call from raised Dodgers last night. Cancer that is tiking
pros Arena. Marry stumbles fills game here. It's perfect. It's

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a work of art. You can put it into the louver.
There's so much chaos, it would be very easy for
him to lose sight of exactly what's happening. It took
me two or three tries to see exactly what happened
with the catcher. There's all sorts of stuff going on here.

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And again it's your emotions in the moment. And of
course he's a pro, and he's done this a million times,
and he's called iconic stuff. He's called super Bowls and
Mini World Series and golf Majors and all of this.
But I've never seen a play quite like what we
saw in this game. How smooth was that call? That's

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as good as it gets. That is as good as
it gets. We talked about the game, but I wanted
to give props to Joe Bluck because I was sitting
there and when when I listened to it at the
top of the hour, when Brian Finley was giving us
what was trending and giving us the update, I heard
it again and it was just like, oh my gosh,

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he hit every single thing that you needed to hit.
He made the moment count by saying the Rays win it.
Brett Phillips Game four Hero. He didn't stumble over the words,
he didn't have to stop to find the words. They
were just there. There's some people who are just born
to do what they do. Whether you like Joe Buck

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or not, you cannot have you can't take anything away
from that call. That was just flat out great. As
somebody that broadcasts and and has done, you know, games
on a much smaller scale but at least a couple
of state title games in high school and you know,
and have called a couple of classics on a small

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level and things like that. Just watching that on the
highest level and listening to that, it's just like, that's
the guy you needed to be the soundtrack for that moment.
He gave you everything that you could have possibly asked
for and nothing else. Every word he said had purpose
and it deserved to be said. It wasn't about him,

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but I'm giving him props right now. The game was
a classic, but the call was all time to me
because of how easily it would have been to get
it wrong, And it would have been understandable to get
it wrong. It has to be hard when you've never
seen something like it before and there's a three or
four different things happening, and maybe it's happening so fast
that you just have to be laser focused. I wish

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we had him on right now so I could just say,
all right, so take me through that call you. I
want to talk to Brett Phillips, and I want to
talk to a ros Aina and everybody else that's involved there.
But I also want to talk to Buck and be like,
how did you stay that focused? How was that laser
sight in your eye so tuned to be able to
stay controlled. I'm not saying calm, because it wasn't a

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calm call. It was a controlled call. He still had
his hands on the steering wheel in the midst of
pure chaos. As a broadcaster, but he had to get
across that chaos. His voice gave off the chaos. But
you never for a second thought that that was going
off a cliff. And I know that's you know, this

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may not interest everybody to the degree it does me,
But hey, if I'm not me, then why am I here? Right?
I just feel like that deserved a little bit more talk,
And so I went ahead and backed off some of
the things I was planning on doing and just move
them to the next segment. You know what I'm saying,
Chris and and Eric and guys out in l A.
I mean, we do this. We we we have great

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broadcasters all around us, and we interview great broadcasters, and
we watched sports all the time, so we hear a
lot of this. But how great was that call by
Joe Buck considering the circumstances and just the level of
control it took for him to just just from step
one to step two to step three to holy cow,
what all is going on here? And then boom and
here is your finish And let me tell you the result,

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and let me tell you the hero was without stumbling
over this, and then we just kind of sit there
after that. That's about where he stops talking, and then
you just watched the race celebrate like they won the
World Series. But I just felt like that call was
deserving of a couple of minutes of airtime this morning.
And I'm curious to know if I'm off the beaten
path or if you guys agree with me. No, I
agree with you there. It's it's got the right mix

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of you get front loaded with all the information you
need and then it has time for the moment to
breathe as well. I always remember you were talking about
memories you remember in sports. You know, plays you remember
in sports all time and still remember always. For me,
it's the Iron Bowl finished the kicks six and twelve.
And it's funny because as much as I like the

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Auburn call, and that's the the Auburn radio call, and
that's the famous one, you know, Auburn is gonna win
the football game, I was gonna win the football game.
I still have a soft spot for Verne Lundquist call
in there, because Verne left a lot of room between
as he talks about you know, Davis gets a block,
Davis gets another block, and then he's kind of quiet
for a while because he lets it breathe, and I think,

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like Joe Buck, you you kind of needed it to
evolve because the camera angle is changing and you you
gotta get everything in you need all the information in there.
But at the same time, it just it's it is
a good call. Now. It's funny because I remember yesterday.
I I kind of hate I kind of hate when
people start, you know, we're talking. We talked too much

(52:50):
about whether or not we like a broadcaster or whatever.
But I know some people were kind of banging on
Joe Buck a little bit yesterday for whatever reason. But no,
I I think when you get a call like that,
that is definitely one of those things that is framed perfectly.
The storytelling is on point with it, and it's one
of those ones you just put up there. I think, yeah, Eric,

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I mean you saw it as a Dodgers fan. I
just I thought Buck knocked this thing out of the park. Yeah,
and it's you know, obviously the Dodgers came out on
the wrong side of it, so it's gonna be it's
gonna be one of those things, you know, like Bill's fans.
I can't hear why right talking about a field goal
without it just staying a little bit. But it's one
of those plays where it's like, you know, it's the
the call makes it what it is like on top

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of it, and luckily, you know it was it was
a longer play that kind of took a little while
to unfold because of just how crazy it was. And Buck, yeah,
like you know, him taking the pause and you can
kind of hear the reactions and yeah, that's always my biggest,
biggest thing, is like when these guys are so fluid
and it's so smooth with their delivery, and it's you know,
they're not scripting that. There's no way you can script

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that final play, and you know it just it came
out effortless, effortlessly, he paused in the right spots, you
got the natural sound, you got the bat, you got
the you got it was. It was a great play
all the way around. And a lot of people, yeah,
they don't they don't think about it in a lot
of ways. It might be us being you know, broadcast nerds,
radio nerds, but when you hear certain things and it's
just like, you know, it's the chairy on top of

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an overall crazy game and a crazy play, and then
you have the iconic play by play that's gonna be
on every highlight reel for the rest of time, basically,
so especially if the Rays win the series. If the
Rays actually win the series, we'll be talking about this
for a long time. It's like, get too far, we
got we got Kershaw on the Mountain tomorrow. Okay, I

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didn't say they're going to I'm not predicting an you
think here, Eric, slow your role, buddy, calm down, Kershaw
Kershaw the day after a Kenley blown save in the
World series. What could go wrong? Guys? I mean, it's
only up from here right there? You go fain or
am I hearing you laugh in the background? All right?
So what did you think of the buck call? I
absolutely loved it. First of all. What I loved about

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it most, ja Sin was that sometimes you get a
broadcaster in a tremendous, humongous moment trying to inject himself
into the action where it's sort of like his or
her signature, which wants to make it suggest to me
that it's about the broadcaster, when that should be the

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last thing we should be worrying about is who's speaking.
It should be the action on the field. I think
the best calls are those where it's basically you don't
even know you're so transfixed in the moment that you
don't even know who's saying as far as the broadcaster
what what's being said. It's poetic, the execution is great,

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and I'm all for it, man. I think it was
delivered under pressure better than anyone else could do in
the biz. Yeah, I think that's I think that's what
all said. There are broadcasters that want to make it
about them in those moments, and it's it's about the moment.
And and I thought Buck did a great job. And
he's been accused actually being a guy that tries to
inject himself at times into these things. I've always felt

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that was a little bit unwarranted. I've disagreed with people
for a long time. But yeah, he backed off. He
made sure that all that we heard about was the
moment from every angle and he just crushed it. And
we're gonna hear it for a long long time. And
you get one opportunity. And he has had a couple
of iconic calls in his career, of course, but this
one's got to be near the top of the list.

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It's crazy too, Like, um, I know it's it's a
little more bigger, bigger picture. But like, the dude schedule
right now is insane. I think he's called games and
seven days in a row, I mean, and something like that.
It's like he's in Tampa one day calling a Brady
Roger's matchup, and he's in the World Series the next day,
and then he's back over there for a Sunday night
football game. It's it's insane that just like I get
back to just the professionalism and just the flawless like

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delivery and a lot of these instances like and then
he's jumping from sport to sport and the travel. It's
it's it's wild to think that how good he can
how good he can be and has been. Yeah, I
mean him and Nance in particular pul are two guys
that have just crazy schedules at different times of the year,
and and both of them are so seamless. They're definitely
they're definitely on the list of of real all time

(57:08):
grades like Tariko might be on that list. Two just
in terms of guys that can do everything. Uh, Nance
does golf better than Buck just because his voice is
more in tune to it and it's his favorite sport.
If you've ever heard him talk, and you know what
he played in college Houston, Uh, that that was what
he loved. But I asked you, and we're gonna get
to break here in a second, but I asked everybody
out there, what was the moment that you remember that

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made you feel like you felt watching the nuttiness that
took place in that final play last night. And Bubba
has sent me a couple. One he said twenty six
years ago in early November, when at forty five, George
Foreman knocked Michael Moore a route to win his final
World heavyweight championship. Justin says, maybe Ray Allen Game six

(57:51):
versus the Spurs, if you remember the heat and the
three from the corner, and he says, maybe, yeah, and
that was crazy good stuff. And he who had left
early from there from that game and like ray aleich,
I had to get them to overtime and all those
fans locked outside looking at the TVs. Yeah, Bubba, and

(58:12):
you'll appreciate this one because the first one was at
your expense, Erica, the Dodgers from last night, but Buffalo
against Houston, the Frank Wright game is being mentioned, so
that maybe that'll soften the wound. You can go back
and think about the bills. I don't know how old
you are. Were you alive, I was alive, very young,
very young. I was Okay, you don't remember it the

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way I remember. Yeah, that was that was incredible, but
it was still your bills. Uh So there you go,
a little bit of positivity for you eight seven, seven,
nine nine on Fox if you do want to join us,
and a lot of a lot of folks in and
in tweets, we appreciate that at j mart Radio, So
I bought the college football was gonna talk about and
I bumped aby go into the bucks. I bumped a
lot of uh NFL talk. We're gonna break down the

(58:58):
entire week seven slate in the third hour of the show,
of course, like we do every single Sunday morning during
the NFL season. A lot to get to, certainly, but
we've just been derailed by a baseball game that deserved
to derail us, quite frankly, and we're having a blast
doing it. We appreciate you. Listen, We'll be right back
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a half talking about one baseball game, and that is
when you know something cool happened. I've done three hour
radio shows, and I don't mean like all right, so

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I do a show in Nashville five days a week.
If we're talking all about Titan Steelers on Monday, that's
probably us doing our job right, especially with five and
O versus five and Oh but the local team, you
understand that day after a game, you're gonna talk about that.
But on a national scale, if I'm sitting here for
three hours discussing a baseball game, then you know it
was a cool day in sports, especially when you consider

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we haven't talked about Indiana and Penn State yet, which
we're about to, or anything else that happened in a
big day in college football with the Big Ten finally
getting started on Friday night with with Wisconsin who looked fantastic,
that quarterbacks ridiculous. Now it was Illinois, I get it,
but certainly looked it there. And then what we saw

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on Saturday with Michigan State going down to Rutgers, Iowa
losing to Purdue without Jeff Brohm and the best player
for the boiler Makers on the field, and then the
IU Penn State finished. But the i U Penn State
finish is what we would have probably been talking about
near the top of the show and what all of

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us were just marveling at on Twitter. And then a
few hours later, that baseball thing happened, and it knocked
you right off the front page. And I'll bet James
Franklin is just fine with what happened to that baseball
game because nobody's talking about Penox Jr. And the two
point conversion and all the I mean, you want to
talk about crazy circumstances Before World Series Game four, said

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basically said, hold my beer too what we saw earlier
in the day. I mean that that those circumstances were
crazy too. You had the Penn State running back the
Indiana let score, who did not get down, and James
Franklin and that coaching staff on the sideline a screaming
that and we get down, but hey, it's too late. Then, coach,
you gotta tell them before the fact, don't go into

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the end zone if they give you the opportunity. Indiana
was not in a position where they could get the
ball back or certainly weren't gonna have any time to
do anything with it. But Penn State goes into the
end zone and then goes up eight. They they you know,
they had the one point lead. They scored, and then
they kicked the extra point, went up eight, and that

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gave Indiana a chance with enough time to get it done,
and they got it done. They sent the game to overtime.
Penn State scored, and then Indiana scores. First off Indiana,
after they scored to tie it to send it to overtime,
they squip kicked it to midfield and probably should a

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loss from that bone headed decision, but somehow they don't.
They go to overtime, Penn State scores, then Indiana gets it,
and then hilarity ensues and then craziness ensus. They score
there down one, and I immediately think, you go for two.
If you're Indiana, you're at home. This is Penn State

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to top ten team. Do you feel like you're gonna
stop them in another overtime period? I really don't even
think extra point should even happen. If you really want
to stop lengthy overtimes in college football, then get rid
of the extra point and make everybody go for two immediately.
But also like seven overtime games in college football too.

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But Indiana makes the right call immediately said go for two,
and so that's exactly what Indiana chooses to do. And
Penis Jr. Who is a quarterback who hadn't thrown I
don't think for a hundred yards in the game, but
is a major rushing threat, including the touchdown that led
to the tie and the two point conversion. I think

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he actually threw the first one, and then he got
the two point conversion himself, stretching the football out and
then he was still on his feet in the end zone.
Panics Jr. On the two point conversion goes left and
I immediately think to myself, Okay, I don't think he
can get in here from like the five he shot
puts stretch us out with his arm and he nicked

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the pieline with the edge of the football. Maybe it's
incredible that he had that kind of long jump ability.
I pads wearing a helmet. It's all or not here.
They're going for two, so they're giving up the chance
to tie the game and send it to a second overtime.

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And then we start to see the replay and most
people seem to think, Okay, the ball hit just before
it hit the pieline, so it's out of bounds of
this game is over and it's Penn State that wins it.
But the call on the field is converging good, and
I'm thinking, you can't overturn this because I don't think

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it's that incontrovertible. I don't think it's that overwhelming, And
I think you can't overturn this because this is the
end of the game. Similar to what we saw in
the baseball game, this play was it that one didn't
rely on a call that relied on just Keystone Cops
level stuff going on to Benny Hill music playing underneath
just wildness. This was going to be a decision. It's

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at i U. If it's at Penn State, maybe it
gets overturned. I don't know. But one thing that I
saw pop up from a couple of people on Twitter,
and this is why I thought about it as well,
is you don't overturn that because what really is the
spirit of instant replay? What should it be? Should it
be to look at something a hundred times, try to

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find some angle on a microscope to see whether or
not a football hit a pieline by a fraction of
a centimeter? Is that the essence of instant replay? Or
is instant replay for things that are egregious, things that
are obvious, things that are easy to see with the

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naked eye, eliminating human error to the extent that technology
can tell you, oh you know what that was a
that was just a micron short. I don't know that
that's what you want out to instant replay. When you
saw that, the play, the effort, everything else, didn't you

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just feel like you gotta give it to him? I mean,
I get it. If you have inst to replay and
you can prove it, then you should try to prove it.
But could you really prove it? The people that were
coming to me when I said, I think you've got
to let that stand there like it's pretty clear that
the ball hit here. It was like, no, it's really not.
It's really really not at all, as a matter of fact,

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because the pylon is the edge of the plane, and
we don't have an angle where we're looking directly at
the pylon from above to see whether or not there's
a piece of that football that's not that's not the
very tip that's actually across that plane. We don't know.

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And as soon as you get to that point, then
you've got to let it stand. If you had not
called it a touchdown, I don't think you rule it
the other way. It's the call on the field dictated
what you do because you've got to have the right
evidence to overturn it, and they just didn't have it.
We don't want replay to suck the fun out of everything,

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Like if you talk to cops, if you talk to
police officers, you talked to investigators. They hate c s
I and all of those shows because they're like, yeah,
they act like there's equipment that will bring stuff so
clear that we can see it from a mile away
on a camera, and it's just not possible. The technology
that they used, especially when those shows were first beginning

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just didn't even exist. So it had people believing that
c SI units could do things in real life that
they couldn't, which then made evidence that used to be
enough in court not enough anymore. We don't have c
s I technology in football either. We still don't have
a chip in the ball. There's a lot of things

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where it feels like football is a little bit behind
the times. But based on what you saw, it's like,
do you really want replay to overturn that? And I'm
not saying it's because all this is gonna be an
upset if it's Penn State doing what I'm saying the
same thing, like, do you really overturn that? Based on
what you're seeing and based on how close it actually was?

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I'm legitimately asking because I understand you want to get
it right. At the same time, I think they got
it right, even though you can certainly argue that the
ball didn't actually get there. I'm real torn on it.

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I understand both sides, but I'm glad that it went
the way that it did. I don't think that the
spirit of replay, and that's a that's a phrase that
you've heard a little bit through the years the spirit
of replay is not to overturn a play like that
based on what we saw that that ruins what sports

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can mean. So we had two examples. We had that
mess with Indiana getting that win over a top ten team,
top twenty five team, just to unbelievable win and an
awesome speech afterwards. If you haven't seen that video, you
should check that video out from the i U locker room.
And then just a couple of hours later, what took

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place with the Raisin Dodgers, which I'm about to watch
again because we're about in the ninth inning right now
on FS one and there they're about to just get
back to it. Even though we've played the Joe buck
all about five times and I've seen it now about
four hundred in the last few hours, I'm never gonna
get tired of watching it because it was so nuts.
It seems like I see something new in it every
single time. Let's go to Brian Finley out in l A.

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Let's see what is trending, and I imagine what's trending
is the Tampa Bay Rays. That would be the case Jason,
and what is also trending another choke job for Dodgers.
Closer Kenley Jansen. Jansen withers in the ninth fitting on Saturday,
blowing his fourth career postseason saved as the Rays muffle

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the Dodgers eight seven, tying the World Series at two games.
Brett Phillips with his first postseason hit when he tied
the game with an RBI based dock in the ninth
Later that very play, Tampa scored the game winning run
because of l a fielding misquse. After the game, Jansen
peered back to his turbulent outing with an optimism attached

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to it. I just totally broke your Mays bad. And
then on Phillips, you know, another grenade singles, Um, you
can't beat yourself there. Um. You know, we gotta stay positive.
One thing. We stay positive, you know, and we're gonna
be back tomorrow. We know, be good and be gonna
coming and win the game tomorrow. Well you heard the man.

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He's guaranteeing a game five starts just after eight pm
Eastern today on Fox TV to College football Indiana, marking
up eighth ranked pen State thirty six thirty five and overtime.
Hoosier's Michael Pennox Jr. Successfully sprung for the pylon Nick
did to convert the game winning two pointer. Number nine

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Cincinnati mowing down sixteenth ranked m U. The Bearcats ran
for over three hundred yards. Number eleven Miami maneuvering Virginian
nineteen to fourteen Knes quarterback Diarick King over three hundred
yards passing also a touchdown. Eighteenth ranked Michigan taking down
number twenty one Minnesota for how about six ranked Oklahoma

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stayed stone walling Number seven Iowa State twenty four to one.
Chuba Hubbard one d thirty nine yards on the ground,
twenty five carries and a score, and number twelve b
Yu taking out their frustrations taking out a crow bar
on Texas State fifty two to four teen. Zack Wilson

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four touchdowns through the air as he continues to delight
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NFL slate in the third hour of the show. We
love doing that every Sunday during the NFL regular season.
I was off last week, which means you enjoy Chris Blank,
which you always do if you listen to Chris Blank.
He's fantastic every time. I Uh, I am able to
step aside as my wife and I went to Florida
for well, I guess both our birthdays. Hers is next week.

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Mine was a week ago yesterday and just kind of
getting away for a few days, and I just knew
it was like, well, Chris is hanging in. He's gonna
be just fine. Um, And I know you love him,
so I appreciate him. Stepping in the bench at Fox
is awesome. Of course, his show with Arnie is can't
miss stuff every single week. Love those guys and appreciate
that he was able to fill in for me on

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relatively short notice as well, because of course it's not
like we had plans to take a trip for months,
not with COVID and everything else that's going on. Seriously,
it's the top of the ninth. I think they actually
just went to commercial break on this replay of this game,
and they just showed a shot of Kenley Jansen warming up,
and it's just like it's the horror movie where you're like,
don't open that door, but you know that they're gonna

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open that door because you've seen it before. And for
some reason, I'm thinking about Drew Barrymore and Scream right
now because she's all over Twitter in the trending or
in the what's happening deal. It's a I guess it's
sponsored because they're running the original screen film on CBS
as part of like a CBS Sunday Night movie thing
they're trying to bring back, and so she's doing the

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character she does when she's in that movie for all
of ten minutes at the beginning as the first victim
in the original screen film, the phone and all of
that stuff. I'm just thinking about it against like, hey,
don't answer that phone, Dave Roberts, don't do it. Man.
I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen if you put

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Kenlly Jansen in that game. What's gonna happen is he's
gonna have it down to the final strikes to be
a one to count to somebody that you've never heard
of before last night, and that dude, Brett Phillips is
gonna hit into center field. Chris Taylor is gonna misplay
it and kick it, grab it, throw it to off Man,

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and then Munce they cut off Man at first base,
is gonna throw it to the catcher, and the catcher
is actually gonna miss the ball. And even though the
runner after the game's already tied on the head, the
runner a rose Arena, is gonna go around third, he's
gonna stumble, Dave, He's gonna stumble, and he's gonna be
out by like forty ft Like it's just gonna be embarrassing.

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But it's gonna go to extras. But unfortunately, your catcher's
gonna drop the ball and he's gonna dive in, and
that's gonna be in the game. And the razor actually
gonna win this thing when they have one strike left.
If you did not see it, I have no idea.
I mean, you had to have just been totally out
and everything was blacked out of anybody that you knew.
Probably I was telling you to watch this thing. But seriously,

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that's exactly what I was thinking when they showed Jansen
just now, was don't open that door. Jason's behind that door.
We'll be right back, Jason mart Show on Fox Sports
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it's the bottom of the ninth and two outs on
FS one. Let me tell you what's about to happen here.
It's actually a rose arena at the plate, So it
isn't gonna happen just yet, although something is about to
happen with a rose arena as well. What a game?
Sports can be a lot of fun. Let's just say

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that stan Van Gundy is a new head coach in
New Orleans the Pelicans. I'm gonna mention an eagle again
because again I talked to him earlier this week and
we asked him about that a little bit because that
was his partner during this NBA season, and he said
he just knew watching stan Van Gundy walking around the
NBA bubble and some of the conversations that they were

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in that somebody who's gonna hire him. He had a
lot of glowing things to say about Van Gundy. And
we know what Van Gundy is capable of. We've seen
him do good work in the pass. You can wear
on people little bit. But I was thinking about this
one and something leaped out to me about it, and
it was that standon and Gundy was with Dwight Howard
when Dwight was really rolling in Orlando. Stan Van was

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the coach when they made the finals. And then I think, actually,
if Van Gundy doesn't pull rapher Alston for Jamir Nelson,
I think the Magic actually might have beaten the Lakers
that year. A lot of you might disagree, but here's
the good news about my take right there. You can
never prove me wrong. You can just say that my
opinion drawn but you but you can't actually prove it

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because it can't be done. We were never gonna know,
but they were on fire and their chemistry was great
was skipped them my lou in there because Jamir Nelson
had been injured. Nelson got right and they put him
back in in Game one, and I don't think they
ever looked the same with nothing against Jamir at that
point in time, wrecking that roster's chemistry that had been

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built during that postseason. With them together knocking out Lebron
and Calves that year, it was it was wild. I
think they went through Boston as well. And of course
Dwight Howard was a young gun and a young superstar,
and he was a young big guy who was marketable,
and a lot of people wanted a piece of him
in you know, Hollywood, in the advertising world and all this.

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It looked like he might be able to be a
young face of the league. Who's that sound a little
bit like? It sounds a good bit like Zion Williamson,
doesn't it. So when I saw standon Gunny the Pells,
that's the first thing that I thought about was, Okay,
well he's done this with Dwight Howard in the past
and it has worked. Now. I don't know what all

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might have gone south, and maybe being Gunny wasn't the
right guy ultimately, but we also saw Dwight Howard struggle
big time everywhere else that he went after that with
his attitude and and that did never seem to be
that big of a problem early on. And I don't
know if Stamon Gunny is gonna be the coach there
for five years. I have no idea, but I could

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see you doing worse than bringing in Stan Van Gundy
into this spot with Zion Zion who seems like a
really likable guy, which I mean at the time, so
did Dwight, so you know that changed for whatever reason.
But Zions re laughable. He looks like he's very coachable.
He's a freak athlete, and you look at Dwight, who
was a major freak athlete. Now his height was way different.

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But Van Gundy has has dealt with this kind of
a player before. That could be a future kind of
poster child for the n b A a guy that
they really need, the league really needs to be a superstar,
and he's managed that before. That was what I thought.
I know, they're not the same guy, Dwight Howard and

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Zion Williamson are not the same guy. But both of
them struggled to the free throw line. Both of them
struggled with a mid range game, zience, post moves, and
what he's able to do there already I think surpassed
what Dwight had far later in his career. But stan
Van Gundy knows how to deal with a superstar like Howard,
at least for a short time, and find a way

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to the NBA Finals with that makeup. So and he's
dealt with young players on that team too. That Orlando
team was very youthful overall. So you take that and
you put it in New Orleans, I think you could
have done a whole lot worse here. I don't know
if I'm not saying they're gonna win a championship. I
can see the the connection here. That may not have

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been the reason for it, but it was the first
thing that popped into my head. Was Okay, there's a
similarity here. I can understand why Van Gundy would come
to your mind here, because when I think of stand Van,
that's what I think of. I think of Orlando with
Dwight Howard, And now you're gonna think of stand Van,
and you're gonna think of New Orleans Pelicans. Was Zion
Williamson oh bottom of the ninth two outs. Brett Phillips

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is coming up to play right now on FS one.
Don't open the door. Don't open the door, Dave, I
promise you. Jason's there. We're sure having a blast because
we're talking about sports. We hope you are well. We
hope you're Emily as well. We got another hour before
we turn it over to Andy and Brian. My name
is Jason Martin. This is to Jason Martin Show. Let's

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make the most of it on Twitter at j mart
Radio late in October, six days away from Halloween. But
the nightmare already hit the Dodgers. The question is how
did they respond. We've spent a lot of time on
this show that otherwise would have been filled with a
bunch of different segments about a bunch of different things,

(01:21:29):
talking about one specific thing, and that is Game four
of the World Series. Just unreal, man, absolutely just mind
boggling in the best possible boy, unless you're a Dodger fan,
just watching that from afar now, I'm a Braves fan,
So watching the Dodgers lose, I'll always accept that and
the team that I've always kind of enjoyed watching in

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in the a l dating back to Joe Madden's first
stint as manager. I've actually kind of quietly always liked
Tampa Bay, so this has been easy for me. But
you know, we all have heartache. Every every fan base
has its heart ache. Albam has won a lot of
national championships. They've had their Kick six too. You know,

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we all go through it. If you live long enough,
you are gonna see your team falter and break your heart.
Some fan bases haven't happened all the time, but this
as a sporting event is one of the most improbable
things in recent memory. Because of that finished now, somebody

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sent me I had said, hey, tweet me at JMR radio,
when's the last time you remember an ending quite like
that or that had you feeling similarly? And we had
somebody send us a tweet with the end of that
Cardinals World Series game. They ended on interference with the
Red Sox with the pedroy of play where he dove

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to his right middle Brooks with the interference on the
base runner on third base and it ends up being
a five four game at that end is kind of
on a on a decision on an obstruction call that
was definitely wild, and I think MLB actually said that's
the wildest ending. Last night's the wildest sending since that one.
And they put out that video, so I was watching

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that during the break and yeah, that was nuts. This
to me was far better because this was just this
was the guys on the field determining it in the
most ridiculous set of ways. And the more that I
go back and watch it, and I just saw it
on the big screen because they just finished a replay
of it on FS one meeting the entire game, and

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I actually turned up the volume even though we played
the Joe Buck call at least five times. I just
I wanted to experience it again. Will Smith the catcher,
He's gonna never want to watch that again because he
pulled the old wide receiver move of trying to run
with it before he has it in his hands, and

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he drops a gimme the throws coming in and it
it skirts off the kind of Kareem's off the edge
of the right part of his glove because he's already
he's unaware of where a Rosarrena is. He thinks a
ros Arena is diving for home plate right then, so
he's got a swipe tag him. Now he doesn't realize

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that a Rosarena has tripped and stumbled and actually rolled
over like a stop dropping roll move halfway between third
base and home plate. He's not even within twenty feet
at that point in time, maybe not even thirty feet
of the catcher, but he goes for the swipe tag

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and then he realized as the ball is not there,
and you see him pirouette around and then oh my gosh,
the ball gets away, as Joe Buck says, and then
a ros Arena slides in and taps home plate about
five times with a giant smile, and the Rays win.
But when you look at it, like Taylor boxes it
in center field, kicks it off, but then he was
able to get it back. He gets it to Muncy,

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and Muncy gets it where it needs to go, and
really the catcher just blows it multiple times because he
doesn't look it into his glove. Then he goes for
a swipe tag without the baseball in the glove and
has not been able to look over or even peripherally

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realized that the runners not there anyway, so he doesn't
even need to do the sweet tag. I'm watching that.
I'm just like man if I am Will Smith. I
need that burned. I need every bit of that footage
burned forever. Like you can blame Roberts for Jansen being
in there, and you can blame Roberts for a lot
of things that went on before that point, But on

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that play, that to me, is very much on the catcher.
That is very much on Smith. And look great hit
by Phillips who's barely a career two hitter, and he
makes this unbelievable. I mean he ties the game with
the original hit, but then everything happened after that. I mean,

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that's just that is the knock and tell me tower
exploding right there for the Dodgers. But it is just
a two two series. So the question is how do
you respond to that? How do you pull yourself back
up when you get knocked in the dirt like the
Dodgers did right there, have your heartbroken, and then come
back and play less than twenty four hours later in

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a tied up to two series where the winner's going
to have a pretty commanding if you look at history,
advantage to go back to go ahead and win that
thing in six. But obviously you go up three too.
You've got to two cracks. The other team has one
and then on the other side, if you're the race,

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how do you channel the momentum twenty four hours later
and somehow home yourself down enough in the process to
go play another game. The fact that we don't have
a day between these two games, that they're just playing again,
I think makes it such musty television. I mean, really like.

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Baseball has had a very good postseason. It's been a
lot of fun. That round robin, crazy March, madness like
tournament that that they had to open up the playoffs,
and it's just been fun. Baseball has done well with this. Yeah,
they dealt with a couple of outbreaks during a regular season,
and I think they really blew it by not being
back sooner. I've spent a lot of time on a

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show lamenting Rob Manfred and Baseball for not finding way
to get this done faster and having baseball on the
field in early July. But with what they've been given,
this postseason couldn't have gone better for them, except that
the Rays are gonna be a big market, so it's
not like having There's not that much interest just in them,

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so you needed something to really ignite it. The Dodgers
had it, but what what what could the Rays offer?
And then last night happened, and now I'm just fascinated
to see whether or not there's carry over from this,
because even those that didn't watch nine innings probably watched
the last few because if they were on social media
at all, and a lot of sports fans are pretty

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active on social media simply because they're they're basically watching
sports with the rest of humanity at the same time
and able to comment on it. If you're on social media,
you can't help but continually see people saying, Hey, this
is a really good baseball game going on on Fox
right now. Email going to tune in the you tune
in and you see that. And other than the five

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and oh five and o matchup that's taking place here
in Nashville between the Titans and the Steelers, that's the
thing I want to see the most today is that
World Series game tonight. And that's not a bad Sunday
night game with the Cardinals and the Seahawks. But Game
five has got me because Game four gave me something
that's not something you can script. That's what makes sports great,

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the unpredictability of it. It's the greatest reality show in
the world because you can't predict it. And because there's
not a director behind it, there's not a script writer
behind it, there's not a showrunner. There's just life in
all its glory, and it's in all of its pageantry,
in all of its excitement, and in all of it's

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let down. Because with the wind for the Rays comes
a pretty crushing defeat for the Dodgers. But now they've
both got to go out and play again. That's a
that's a tough spot for them, but boy, it's not
a tough spot for us as fans. Now Dodger fans
might say it's a little bit of a tough spot,
but they want to they want to get this taste
out of their mouth. So they're probably happy they don't

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have to wait two days to play again. Because I thought,
and have thought most of this series that they're just
the better team. Their bats are getting red hot. I mean,
look at Seeker and Turner and these guys, I mean
they're just absolutely mowing people. That's just one of the
two three best players in the game. Like, you have

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everything you want there if you're a Dodgers fan. Except
for a series lead, Rays have only led in two
of the last eighteen innings. One of them was right,
as they won the game last night, but they're still
tied in this World series two games to two. It's
a good problem to have for a sports fans. What
I'm gonna tell you, we got the NFL Sunday and

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then we've got game five in a tied up World
Series as part of the nightcap against a good Sunday
night football game. So between commercial breaks will be moving
back or you'll be watching on multiple screens. Sometimes this
job can be a little tough during the off season
of some of these sports and you're trying to find
content you know it's compelling to a wide variety of people.

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And then there's stuff that happened like Saturday, where you
have that i U. Penn State finish, You've got Big
ten starting to play football, You've got the SEC in
action obviously in a CEC and everything else. You've got
Antonio Brown going to the Bucks and that storyline. And
then you get that game and everything shifts and we
end up doing the first hour and a half just

(01:31:09):
on that game. I did a whole segment on Joe
Buck's final call because all of you saw it, all
of you heard it, and I thought it deserved mentioned.
Truly incredible night of sports. John Rossie are a good
friend at Fox, has been on all the shows. You've
heard it for many years. I love that guy. He
says it's one of the greatest nights sports he's ever seen.

(01:31:31):
He was there, He saw that game live. He interviewed
to ross Arena afterwards. He talked about how it showed
how great baseball is for for fans and enthusiasts like him.
It is like, hey, world, this is why we love
this game. Now, can they channel that into momentum to
get a bunch of people watching the next hopefully three games,

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but you know at least two that we're gonna get now.
I know they got my eyeballs tonight. I don't think
you could ever duplicate that again, not the way that ended.
But if you wanted drama, if you wanted something compelling,
if you've made if you wanted to make everybody out
there pay attention to what's going on in your sport,

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you couldn't have possibly dreamed up anything better than what
we saw last night. Raise when at eight to seven,
in the most improbable fashion imaginable, we're about seventeen different
things had to go right or go wrong in order
to get it done, and somehow that's exactly what took place.
When we come back, we'll look at week seven. We'll
predict at top to bottom. We'll find out how we

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did back in week five. Since I wasn't here to
predict last week, I should have sent predictions to you guys,
and then I ended up forgetting that. But we'll just
we'll throw that week out. If you guys did poorly,
we'll throw that week out. But we'll get the week
five update and then we will break down week seven.
It will be a lot of fun. Tweet me at
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(01:32:59):
to you by a guy little way I see. I'm
Jason Martin, Jason Martin Show here on fs ARE. I'm
on Twitter at j mart Radio. Off last week. So
the crew gets a maya cult, but they didn't actually
do the picks with Chris Plank. I would have accepted
his picks as well as mine. Well, we'll get back

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to business here, but Chris, do you have the week
five numbers? And then we need to eventually we need
to get you a calculator this week. See if it's
in the budget for Fox to get you a calculator
so that we can get a cumulative look of where
we stand. Uh do I I mean I got I
was kind of hoping you forgot this week as I
got trounced quite well. Um So that week, Week five, Jason,

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you went nine and four. Eric Roberts and Ralph Irvin,
who filled in for Brian Fitn and made picks for him,
both went ten and three. I my strategy of being
the designated survivor on a lot of these picks are
not working, and I went seven and six, oh seven
and rough. Well, let's see if you can get back
onto the winning track, and we'll start with your boys

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had quite a bit of we've had, I mean, up
until that week, we've had like, you know, good weeks,
and still I think we're all in massive winning records,
so you know we're all picking pretty well. Well, don't
say that very loud. Football gods don't appreciate being mocked
Detroit at Atlanta. This is your account, Chris, this is
your Lions prior to Detroit and all that you've been

(01:34:25):
doing with them. So I'll let you actually maybe lead
me into this pick. We'll see. So you know, in
case you missed it, Lions win a game. Yeah, so,
I mean they did it against the Jaguars. Granted, and
I know we have been talking with Falcons people this week,
and these are two teams, they're just doppel gangers of
each other. Although the Falcons have beaten the Lions to

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the punch in firing their head coach. Uh. I think
these both teams match up well. I've seen picks on
either side of this. I've usually been fading the Lions,
but honestly, and this might be where I stumble, I'm
I have to go Detroit this week just because I
don't think they've really gotten it back on track against Jacksonville.
But this is the part of the schedule. I think

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everyone looked at and realized this is where the Lions
could start to pick up some wins because they had
a really rough start to the season. They had three
really brutal games to deal with, and now here they are,
They're in the kind of the meat of it. The Falcons,
I mean, they have Julio Jones and the Lions will
be without desmon Trude font when they're starting corners. But

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on the other hand, I think that you know, I
can trust at least the Lions defense to feast on
quarterbacks that make mistakes, and right now Matt Ryan is
making quite a few mistakes. So I'll go I'll go
with the Lions. So anytime people start saying nice things about, hey,
the Lions might be about to turn it around, this
is where people start to see it. I'm taking Atlanta

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simply because of that that I agree with everything that
you just said. I just can't get there whenever I
start hearing nice things about the Lions, that makes me
want to run in the opposite director Forrest Scump style
out of it, out of the Alabama Stadium. So I'll
take the Falcons in this game simply because I'm worried
about positivity surrounding Detroit. Just really curious if I had

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ticked taking Atlanta, would you have gone with Atlanta too,
or I might have I might have gone Detroit. You
definitely pushed me over the edge at Eric. I think
I'm gonna go with Atlanta, though I feel I don't know.
I like Atlanta at home a little more for some reason,
and I feel like they're do I mean they're they're
one in five, so obviously they should be do but

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they have just the weapons. They were putting up a
lot of points in the just a couple of weeks
and just you know a couple you know that they
had that weird onside kick where they just forgot to
pick up the ball and you know, they got caught.
I think I was a weird p I call against
the Rams, but They've been a couple of close ones.
But just I'm gonna go to the Falcons at home.
You got you guys gotta think here that the Falcons

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are really fool's gold. They've got sexiness to some of
their skill position players. What they can't show ford in
the end. As far as wins, I have the Lions
because other than the game where they got beat down
pretty hard by the Packers, Detroit, as much as people
make fun of them, they have been in every single
game except Green Bay. So even their losses minus that

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one within seven points or less. So I've got Detroit
winning this one, that's true. I mean they should have
beaten They should have won that Bears game. We had
the swift play. They kept it really close with New
Orleans and had a real opportunity to win that game
at some points. That's a good point. I'll stick with Atlanta,
though Cleveland at Cincinnati Cleveland, there was gonna be a

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topic before that baseball game started. Maybe you dodged this bullet,
Eric that whether or not the Browns and the Bills
proved to be pretenders last week based on what happened
to the Bills and back to back games, and the
Browns with all that hype again, oh they're going to
the Steelers and maybe they're good, and then they got punked,
just got absolutely beat down in that game. I would

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like to say this is a perfect opportunity for the
Browns to brown this thing again. But Cincinnati has one
reason to watch them, and it's a quarterback. It's not
because Mixing can't play and there's not some decent talent.
Their old line is so bad, man, And I just
look at Myles Garrett and I look at that defense
for the Browns, and I say, I fear for Joe Burrow.

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The Browns are probably mad about how badly that went
for them last week. So I'm gonna take them, even
though I don't feel good about it, because they are
the kind of team that could crumble after what Pittsburgh
did to them. I'll take the Browns. Yeah, I'm gonna
go with the Browns too. But yeah, I've say it
every week. This is the most I've ever paid attention
to the Bengals in a long time because it's all

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because of Joe Burrow. He looks good out there. And
you know, if the second he can, you know, stand
in the pocket and not worry about getting his head
taking off, he'll probably start winning a lot more games.
But the Browns should win. But you know, Cleveland, Gun
and Cleveland, so we'll see exactly. You know, we talked
about Cleveland Cleveland, and I think honestly their teams still

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believes that they can Cleveland too, because you listen to
Baker Mayfield, all those guys with the chip on their shoulders.
But guess what, this is a different Cleveland team. I
hate to say it, and I think maybe it's still
sinking into our into our brain pans a little bit
like therefore and two, they look really good in a
lot of their metrics they've played, I mean, the teams

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they've beaten. Maybe you aren't the best out there, but
I I you can't look at I can't look at
Cincinnati and think that that's a team that's going to
like have their numbers. So I turned to my soundboard. Here, Okay,
that's not bad. I mean, look, they're two losses or
to Baltimore into Pittsburgh. They were both pretty pretty severe losses.
But those are two of the best teams in the

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a f C. So I understand. So we're all Browns.
Where are you, Brian? I am with the Browns as well.
I think if the four of us and maybe Ralph
Irvan was playing center, we would all be second string
offensive line for Cincinnati. I think all five of us
could make that team. And if that's the case, then
we are doomed. So yes, I'm going with Cleveland. Don't

(01:40:08):
sell yourself short, but you can be on that starting
outline right now. I truly believe that we'll skip. We'll
skip one of the other Neon games. I want to
do it at the end because it's the game of
the weekend. Carolina at New Orleans. Still no McCaffrey. I
don't believe because my fantasy team still has Mike Davis
predicted to get me nineteen points today. Saints. It's just
kind of a mess. Right, Like everything surrounding that team

(01:40:31):
just feels really off. This feels like it's an opportunity
for Carolina to go in and win. I'm still gonna
take the Saints in this game. I've I've actually been
on Carolina's side a few times, and I've been on
the right side. I just don't like this one for them.
For some reason, I just feel like the Saints. This
is Drew Brees decided to show up in Galvanis a
little bit be there, him and Camara. I think that'll

(01:40:52):
be enough. It probably won't be a particularly interesting game,
but I think the Saints will beat him. Yeah. As
much as I want to be on cure linea side
on this, I think some of the shine has come
off on Carolina. You know, they rattle off three straight wins,
but you lose pretty bad to the Bears um and
then you look at some of the winds they've gotten.
It was against the Cardinals, and I know Kyler Murray

(01:41:12):
just lit up a team, but that was a that
was a Cardinals team that just still wasn't figuring out
its way. They beat up on the Falcons, they beat
up on the Chargers, and I believe the first game
of Justin Herbert there if I my memories pretty yeah,
it was so. I mean, Carolina's wins are a little
fugazzy right now. I like New Orleans at home. Yeah,

(01:41:34):
I'm gonna go with New Orleans at home to guys,
I got, I got the Panthers. You guys are making
fun of me. Early in the season, I thought Carolina
was gonna be much better than a whole lot of
pundits predicted. And I think they're going to continue to
to come back here and get that fourth win of
the season. Brian Finley, who writes Matt Rule fan fiction,
I do. I know it's understandable Buffalo at the Jets

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one team. It's the Jets. But I'm gonna surprise you here. No,
I'm not Bills win. Bills are not a bad football team.
They've played against two really good football teams in a row,
and that kind of has made them look like they're
exposed a little. I think the Bills are a good
football team. I don't know if they're ready to to
eat with the big dogs just yet Chiefs and Titans,
and I don't know how they'll do. But there's still

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to me a playoff team, A good football team. They'll
right the ship against an awful Jets team, right. And
if there was ever a time for you for the
Bills to play the Jets and get a nice little
slump buster, it's after getting punched in the mouth by
two of the better A f C teams in the league.
And that's exactly what it is. I mean, you know,
they had the weird schedule changes, they played on a

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Tuesday night, got pumped by the Titans, and then you
go and then you get kind of smacked around by
by the Chiefs at home, which is not fun to
watch either. But you know it's you gotta go and
you gotta get things right. And the Jets line up
perfectly when you gotta get things right after dropping back
to back games, so it should be a blowout. Yeah,
I'm taking the Bills here. I don't want to give
this game anymore time than needs because involves the New

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York City team that is absolutely awful that we need
to stop paying attention to. There's only one New York
football team. I just I'm just tired of hearing about
the Jets like I'm sorry we're supposed to in sports
media like talk about kind of the good teams and everything,
and yet I'm just I'm tired of hearing about Adam Gates.
I'm tired of hearing about the Jets. They suck. They're

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they're the Sacramento Kings of of the NFL right now,
They're they're the old Jacksonville Jaguars. They're the old Cleveland Browns. There.
You know, we could go back to New York again,
but about the Mets. But for some reason, people talk
about the Mets too. I'm just tired of talking about
New York sports teams. They suck. We're waiting for Adam
Gates to get firewa about that. You go, oh my gosh,

(01:43:47):
you guys are under selling that Jets home field advantage. No.
But on a serious note, I'm going out on the
limb here, step back from the ledge and Donald is back, McKay,
Beckton is there. The Bills puked against the Chiefs, and

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I just have a feeling that this Jets team is
not going to go oh in sixteen and they are
going to pull off a stunner. Crisp Mark the tape
Jets get their first win of the season later today.
The character Crispy is a Giants fan. I think Okay,
fair point. So you'll you'll appreciate this, Chris, I feel

(01:44:32):
like Brian Finley just became Marty Morning wigg taking the wind. Yes, Yes,
I don't. I don't think I need to say anything else.
Dallas at Washington, Yeah, Dallas at Washington. So Daniel Jones
on Thursday, I mentioned I and Eagle twice. I'll mention
him a third time. I interviewed him the morning before
he ends up doing that game, and I'm talking about,

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Hey man, you're doing a game with Derrick Henry on Sunday,
and you've called all these great games throughout your career.
Do you get psyched up when you know you've got
a guy that that has a tendency to make highlight
reel kind of plays that you might have a great call.
And he says yes, and then he gets to call
that Daniel Jones run on Westwood one that night. And
if that run wasn't the embodiment of that entire division,

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I don't know what was. Washington's awful, absolutely brutal. Their
quarterback situation is is a problem. Dallas quarterback situation is
a problem. That performance last week is one of the
worst things I've ever seen from that organization. Dac made
money by not playing because of the difference between him
and Andy Dalton in there, it's a starter. Dallas is

(01:45:38):
gonna win the game, and may God have mercy on
all our souls. I'm still figuring this game out, so
excuse me for a little bit while I talked. But
did you realize that in the NFL, all you need
to do to win a division is win three games
and win a point tiebreaker. All you need to do
is win three games against your divisional opponents have a
point tiebreaker. Now it's thrown off a little bit in

(01:45:59):
the call this for the NFC East because Dallas and
I believe one other team I I think it was
it wasn't the Giants, and forging who the other team
was now it wasn't Washington, but I know the Cowboys
have one against the Falcons outside their divisions. That throws
off the calculus a little bit. And I think the
Eagles were the other teams who they boot the Eagles?

(01:46:20):
I can't San Francisco that was right? Yes, yes, so
likely like we could be looking at an NFC East
that sends up teams to the division to the playoffs
with only like four, maybe five wins. I just want
that to sink in a little bit. Um. I'm not
ready to throw in the towel completely on Andy Dalton,
but at the same time, you can rattle his cage,

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and Washington has a decent enough pass rush that they
can rattle his cage. I'm gonna take Washington here. Yeah,
I'm gonna go Washington too. I'm at the I'm at
the point with this division where I just want I
root for as as crappy a record to come out
of that division as possible, And so right now, one
of five to two and five teams would be real
nice at the end of the day. So I'm gonna

(01:47:02):
pick Washington. Just telling you, man, we could get a
four win or a five win I agree with you.
I think a five win team is very very possible,
and that's that should hopefully be enough to change the rule. Yeah,
but it's the NFC East and all those teams. I know,
I got the Washington football team the only one taken
Dallas because the way Dallas played last game, it it

(01:47:23):
looked like an a a F team out there. It
definitely did. And that that I mean, that's a tough
call right there. I mean, especially when you just took
the Jets against the Bills. You're gonna talk about a
a F team And I think the New York New
Jersey hitman from the XFL at the turn of the
century could beat the Jets right now. C IF teams
second level indoor football or something, yeah, something something rough there.

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I just think Dallas will come back after playing as
bad as they did, and they'll get a win that
should make people feel no better about them than before
they got it. Green Bay at Houston. Houston loses X
to the Titans last week and overtime. They look good
in that game in terms of racking up yardage and
what Deshaun Watson was able to do. David Johnson is

(01:48:09):
playing pretty good football this season, but Green Bay got
slacked by Tom Brady in the Bucks embarrassed. As a
matter of fact, after many people were saying maybe they're
the best team in football. I think they're gonna take
that out on the Texans. I don't see two games
in a row of a letdown. I know what's on
the road. I don't care give me Green Bay yeah
bounce back game. I don't think you can really catch

(01:48:31):
Aaron Rodgers mad too many times, so give me Green Bay, right. Yeah,
this is a get right game for Aaron Rodgers. So yeah,
Packers over Texas. Yeah, I'm with you, guys, Packers win.
I still can't understand that touchdown dance he did after
that touchdown score against New England last week. Yeah it's good. Yeah,
no one, no one understands that. And I'm glad that

(01:48:51):
you didn't try Tampa Bay at Las Vegas. Okay, what's
going on with the Raiders? Oh, Line Finley, you're the
news guy. What's going on? What's going on with the tests?
All right? So we're still waiting to hear some of
these news dumps, but what I've heard is that we
could have some of these guys coming back for later today.
So keeping keeping my eyes on some of these latest updates.

(01:49:14):
But I feel like there is some optimism a headline
I read a day ago that many of those two
Ligne guys will be able to play. But of course
that is all contingent on the news dumps were waiting
to get here from NFL Network. Just a lot of
distractions for the Raiders this week. Bucks are really kind
of putting it together a little bit. No av obviously,

(01:49:36):
yet that'll be Week nine most people expect against the
Saints will be where Antonio Brown would start as a
Bucks receiver. I don't know what to say here because
I still don't know if I love Tampa Bay. But
with all the distractions around the Raiders, I find it
hard to believe that they're gonna be at their best.
So I think I'll take the Bucks going going west

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and winning the game. I think I like the Eights here.
They've been sneaky good. You know, they got the game
against Kansas City, which honestly, I should have seen that
coming just because that's a divisional matchup right there. But I,
I mean, as much as I have some reservations about
how far the team can go, there's been some issues
with with Tampa Bay as well. So I'm taking the Raiders.

(01:50:19):
I'm gonna take the Buccaneers. Guys, I'm going Tampa Baby. Wow,
those are two very quick ones. That sounds it sounds
like it's time to get to you, Finley, tell us
what's trending one more time, and then we'll get the
rest of the slate on the flip side. Yeah, So
Dave Roberts, guys had faith in Kenley Jansen to close
out Game four of the World Series in the ninth inning,

(01:50:40):
and then Jansen pukes all over the mound as the
Rays come back and win it eight to seven to
you know what, you know what, Finley, I like. I
like croakes a lot better than pukes. When you said
croaked earlier, Okay, like, hey, you know what, I think
that's that's the one I would go with instead of puke.
There's something about croak that really works for me. Okay,

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Jansen croaking puff on the mound as the Rays come
back and win at eight to seven to make the
World Series of two two tie Brett Phillips smacking the
RBI single in the ninth off. Jansen then l a
botches a home or a throw to home plate, enabling
the game winning run to score. Here's Dodgers manager Dave

(01:51:20):
Roberts addressing the late game debacle. It's a tough one.
This is this is uh, you know, it's tough, and
we gotta you know, digested. But we have turned the page.
Now it's a three game series and we've got Clayton
going tomorrow and our focus has to turn to win tomorrow.
And I guess Roberts said I liked him in that spot,
unless he didn't say that. A Game five begins just

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after eight pm Eastern today on Fox TV in college football,
Indiana swerving past number eight Penn State thirty six to
thirty five, and overtime eighteen ranked Michigan gobbles up number
twenty one Minnesota number eleven. MI m Jets out to
five and one after dusting Aside Virginia nineteen to fourteen.

(01:52:06):
NFL Network feeding out injury updates for weeks six. The
Packers are treating running back Aaron Jones as a game
time decision today versus the Texans. He's hampered by a
mild calf strain. The Cardinals for sea wide receiver DeAndre
Hopkins in the lineup with an ailing ankle, and finally,
ESPN is reporting Jets wide receiver Jamison Crowder is out

(01:52:27):
today with a growing injury against the Bill. Sam Donald,
though is starting, returning from an a C joint sprain,
and McKay Beckton is back on the offensive line for
that vaunted Adam Gaze offensive line with the shoulder issue
back to Jason Martin. Certainly now that jeannettit you here,
Jamison Crowder, it's not playing. Do you want that Jets?

(01:52:48):
Bill's pack? Billick Well, I was contemplating it. But Sam
Donald McKay, Beckton, Man, that's a pretty good one to punch.
I'm still hanging on my pick Jets winning against the
Bills today. Are you sure about that? Guys? You you
have heard me give him multiple opportunities to fix this, right,

(01:53:11):
like you, you realize that I'm a very decent human being.
I've tried. I have tried. Sometimes you cannot save someone
from themselves, and you desperately want them to win as
badly as you want them to win. Now, if he
turns out to be right, I'll never live this down.
But I'm not going to have to live this down
because the Jets will die. They will croak. They're already green.

(01:53:34):
They will croak today on the field against the Bills.
Let's get one more end before the break. Kansas City
at Denver. Okay, this one's not gonna take very long.
Kansas City wins. Kansas City, Kansas City. It's supposed to
be a good amount of snow. I think I'm on
the ground tomorrow too. I think I read like three
to five inches. It sounds like Denver a little snow

(01:53:55):
game early. I like it. I love watching snow football.
So that's a bunch of Kansas City friendly. Do you
want to do? You dare pick, I'm not going that contrary,
and I'm a realist contrary. I'm going Casey, Yeah, you're
gonna pick the Jets. You can't possibly be more contrarian
and picking the Jets. If you picked Ohio State to

(01:54:16):
beat the Jets, it would be less controversial than picking
the Jets to actually win an NFL game in division
against a pretty good Bill's team. Gosh, watch the Jets
beat them, like forty four to three. Now mark the
team for next week. Mark the tape, because when the
Jets win, you guys are all going to be the
ones crying. I'm gonna tell all the people out of

(01:54:39):
Fox Sports Radio right now, if the Jets win this game,
take this tape and all of the copies of it,
bury it in a hole, and then bury the whole
We'll come back. We'll do the rest of the schedule,
including that undefeated matchup that's taken place right here in Nashville.
We'll do that next Jason Martin Show, finishing up here

(01:54:59):
on Sports Radio. Hey, Welcome Back Jason mart Show, finishing
up on this Sunday, late October, Halloween six days away.
Nightmare for the for the Dodgers, but they gotta pick
it back up to too even. World Series Game five
tonight on Fox. We're doing our usual preview of the

(01:55:21):
NFL games. We go through, we all predict him, then
we do the records the next week. We got five
more to go and not a lot of time. San
Francisco at New England interestant game moster, it's gonna be
put on. I R I don't love the forty Niners.
I don't think I heard of Mackenzie Rivers actually say
this on straight out of Vegas right before we took air.
He said, cams getting worse by the week in New England.

(01:55:44):
I don't love the Patriots right now at all, and
I don't love the Niners either. I'm gonna take Belichick
just because I trust him, but I don't really like
either one of these teams right now. I I honestly
feel like San Francisco is probably the one that I
can trust more here, just because I can at least
look at their defense, and I can look to some
of their other pieces and just I I don't know.

(01:56:04):
I know they're traveling west to east and that's always rough.
But I do like the I I do like the
Niners here. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Niners too.
Excuse me choking up. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the
Niners too. I like George Kittle for some reason, I
feel like I just have a feeling is gonna have
a big game tomorrow. I'm going with the Patch. They're
gonna win a slobber knocker. Yeah. I don't, I don't.

(01:56:24):
I don't know what to make of that game. I
hope it's entertaining. Jacksonville at Chargers. Jags have become the
Jags again, real fast. Chargers are banged up, but I
still like them to win this game. This is East
going west, but I like the Chargers to win. I
just had this conversation with someone because I was on
my Lines podcast and we had this question of who

(01:56:45):
would you want among all these young quarterbacks which you've
seen Joe Burrow justin Herbert to a tongue of bloa,
and you know, we had limited release on a lot
of it. But I was the one stumping for Herbert
because as much as Joe Burrow has been fantastic with
a bad offensive. I don't think we're giving enough credit
to to Herbert beating some of the teams he's been beating.
I think it's this is gonna be a good game

(01:57:07):
for people to kind of catch some eye popping numbers.
Give me the Chargers. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Chargers.
To you guys, Chargers Seattle at Arizona. I'm taking the Cardinals.
I believe Seattle is gonna lose this game if DeAndre
Hopkins is able to play, especially, but I just for
some reason feel like the Cardinals get this one done

(01:57:27):
on Sunday Night football, and it's a great night for
Kyler Murray. I I still like Seattle here. I still
have a lot of trusts in Russell Wilson. So I'm
gonna take the Seahawks. Yeah. I've picked Seattle, I think
every week so far, and they haven't stown me wrong yet.
So Seattle. I still think Kyler Murray is a bit overrated.
He's able to run the football. He can also chuck
the deep ball, but I don't have confidence in his

(01:57:49):
intermediate throws and his ability to be precise there. I've
got Seattle Bears at Rams is the Monday night game.
Intriguing matchup. Bears have looked a lot better with Folds,
there's still a one lost team. I still really like
the Rams. I think they may win that division, or
certainly they're going to be in position to win that division.
It's the best division in football. I just I'm gonna

(01:58:12):
take the Rams. I could see this one going anywhere
either way, but I'll take l A. I might need
to skip this because I, I mean, maybe this is
me as a Detroit guy, and I've been trying to
figure out a way. Every week I seem to pick
against the Bears, and every week they just seem to
pull it off. So as much as I yeah, see,
here's the problem for me with the Rams. They've beaten

(01:58:34):
up on NFC East teams. That's that's that's my one reservation. Mean,
while the Bears have been in probably winning, I'm gonna
bite it here. I'm gonna say Chicago. Yeah, I'm gonna
go with l A. But if Chicago does win, I
feel like this is the win that they get. I mean,
for much of the reason what Christians said, if this
is the one you point to, it's like, Okay, well,
now that they're real, you know, they're not phonies. They

(01:58:54):
beat the Rams, you know, so I think I'm gonna
go with l A. But this is your measuring stick
game for the Bears. I think my wing is more
that l A might be the phony right now, just because,
like if we're going college, this would be a strength
of schedule argument. They've been beating up on basically Sunbelt teams. Yeah,
that's a that's a good argument. I think the winner
here has a statement win though against the loser. I
think both teams are probably deemed to be pretty good. Finley,

(01:59:17):
I got Chicago. I don't think that the Rams are
the team they used to be just a year even
two years ago. Well, I think they're the team they
were a year ago. I don't know if they were
the team that they were two years ago. All Right,
five and o versus five and Oh, it's happening right
here in Nashville. Titans and Steelers. Tannehill and Roethlisberger have
very eerily similar stats. Thirteen touchdowns to two interceptions. I

(01:59:41):
believe it is for Tannehill. Eleven touchdowns too are actually
to eleven and two and thirteen and one is what
it is. Both of them are great passer ratings, both
of them with tons of weapons around him, great defense
in Pittsburgh. I'm setting the stage. I'll pick this one last, Chris,
this is This is a hell of a game. I know,
I know the Lion has flipped a few times on

(02:00:02):
this looking at Vegas. It's Tennessee one and a half
right now. Yeah, and I think Pittsburgh opened as a favorite,
so it's been moving back and forth. I give a
slight edge to the Steelers here. I'm taking the Steelers
just because I think that defense is probably the best
right now in the NFL. Right yeah, I'm much as
the same. I'm going with the Steelers. I watched them
play the Browns last week and they like physically beat

(02:00:24):
up the Browns and they are just physical. It's gonna
be interesting to see how they can match up against
Derrick Henry. But I'm gonna go with the Steelers. King
Henry is going to run all over that Steeler defense.
Titans win. Well, I already had to pick it in
Nashville and it's on Twitter, So I'm not gonna be
the guy that has seventeen n C Double A Tournament brackets.
So that I can say that I won with one.
I've got to stick with my pick. Tennessee wins at

(02:00:45):
thirty one. I think Pittsburgh's defense is gonna miss Devin
Bush badly. Now, no Taylor Lawan on the offensive line
for Tennessee makes a difference. But I think Derrick Henry
is gonna be able to run the football. And I
think a J Round has a good day, but Adam
Humphreys might have a spectacular day in the absence of
Devon Bush. So I think it's gonna be a great game.

(02:01:07):
I sure hope it is to five and no teams
doesn't happen very often. And we've got it all right,
we appreciate it. We've had fun, enjoy that game. That
baseball is gonna be fun tonight. NFL Sunday coming up
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