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ago you heard me on Fox Sports Radio. So yes,
this is not a mirage. This is the actual program here.
It was fun being in for Anthony Gargano yesterday morning
with Lincoln Kennedy, who I had hosts a show with
him in a couple of years, and that was a
lot of fun. We had Jeff Schwartz on during that show,

(01:03):
former offensive lineman, and of course the offensive lineman that
I was co hosting with great conversation. Much of it
centered around college football, the playoff, uh, the challenges of
this season. We're gonna play that for you again in
the second hour of this show if you did not
hear it on the Fellas yesterday morning, that's coming up
next our third hour of the program. As always, we'll

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look at week ten, game by game by game, predicted
top to bottom, find out how we did in week nine.
Finley's back, right, guys, it is Finley back. Yes, So
last time he was here, he had this world class
record and then he follows it up by not showing up.

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And now I'm curious to find out how his substitute
did in his stead. So we will get there as well.
But I guess we gotta start with the same place
that we have started for the last couple of weeks
on this show, and that is this. Let's just go
to the quote, not a good place as a football

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team right now, and that falls on me, Hardball said,
gotta get after really going back to basics and everything
that we do and look at everything that we're doing.
Everybody's got to do better. I'm at the front of
the line in the accountability. Well I'm glad you're saying that, Jim,
because yes, you are. I know it's the Jimmy's and

(02:31):
Joe's that have to go out there and do it.
The x's nos don't win football games, but neither one
of them is doing very much right now. I was
gonna tune in and watch this football game after dinner
with my wife. Figured, okay, i'll miss the part to
the first quarter, but we'll get there. I look up
at the score. I said, well, maybe I don't even

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have to bother because it's already twenty one nothing. Then
I wouldn't use the restroom, came back, sat down. It
was twenty eight to nothing. All right, I guess we're
done here. This, folks, is a one and three Michigan
Wolverines team that correct me if I'm wrong, was the
top twenty ranked team in the preseason, showing again how

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much that matters. And we were talking off air. The
crew is Eric Roberts, Brian Finley, Christopher Felt. We were
all talking before the show started about the double ledged
sword that comes with being a team with this kind
of history and tradition, because there's all they can always
be these really cool tidbits of things are going right,

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and then when things are going wrong, there can be
stuff like what I'm about to tell you from ESPN
Stats and Info. Michigan's thirty eight point defeat it's largest
at home since nineteen thirty five, when it fell thirty
eight to nothing to our rival Ohio State. This is
their third loss in a row. This is the worst

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start in Michigan football has had since nineteen sixty seven. Yikes, folks, yikes. Statistically,
total yards four sixt to nineteen Wisconsin rushing yards. This
is this is a snuff film. Basically, this is NSFW

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material rushing yards in this game. Wisconsin wins that battle.
A real barn burner, real nail scratcher. Came down to
the wire, but the Badgers winned over the Wolverines three
forty one to forty seven. Almost three hundred more rushing
yards from Wisconsin and Michigan in this game. First downs

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six to ten, total plays seventy three to forty five,
and possession time again. Hijr kids, Hija wives, because everybody's
getting blown up in here. Forty minutes and fifteen seconds
of this game controlled by Wisconsin. Nineteen forty five from Michigan.

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Take Milton's two interceptions on their first two possessions. This
is the second year in a row. How about this?
This is the second year in a row that they've
been down at some point to Wisconsin to nothing. How
much more do I need to say here? Like they
pay me to have analysis and to talk intelligently about sports,

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but pretty much everybody listening right now, I could do
my job like I'm not gonna call for hardball to
be fired. I really hate doing that, but I am
going to pat myself on the back and go full
Berry Horrowitz a little bit here to open this program,
because I kind of told you he was one of
the most overrated guys in sports years ago. I'm not

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the only one, but I'm one, one and three and
he's as it starts with him, and he's right it does.
There's not really anything else he can say. The question
is what does the future hold now? I have thought

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since before the college football season started that most coaches,
if not all coaches, we're gonna get Mulligan's this year
because of the just In Zaney nous, the Barker's nature,
the nonsense that has been relative to COVID nineteen and
how it's affected everybody's lives. How do you fire guys.

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During this kind of a year, home field doesn't mean
what it usually means. There's no fans in a lot
of these games. The ones that do have fans, they're sparse.
They look like a checkerboard in the seats. You didn't
have the right and the normal run up. Maybe you
had a COVID outbreak, so you had ten guys missing,
but they're still playing the games. There's so much that's

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different about this That's why they've waived that eligibility requirement
because they know, like, this season is not a total loss.
Whoever wins the championship. Dabbo's right, the head coach at
Clemson when he said, very very early on in the summer, Look,
whoever wins is gonna have earned it. And that's absolutely true.

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It's gonna be a championship, just like the Lakers just
won a championship in the bubble. We're gonna see it
differently those of us that live through it. But you
factor in all of that and you're just like, how
much can you expect a coach to do during this
time frame? And all of these schools lost their key

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star monetarily, financially in the toilet across sports basically because
of the the lost revenue and everything that goes into it.
It's the same thing as there's probably a lot of
restaurants where you live that went away in the spring

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and now you found out they're not going to reopen.
It's super sad it's happened here in Nashville. There's a
lot of really cool places. I mean, this is a
great place to live, but there are a lot of awesome,
just dope places around here that aren't coming back because
they ran out of capital, they ran out of money.
The movie theater industry right now is on its last leg.
Wonder Woman is the last thing left standing this year,

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and I don't think it's gonna make it. I think
that film is getting pushed back just like everything else has.
But a MC is just trying to keep its doors
open right now. But they're about, i'd say, within sixty
days of potentially having to go belly up completely. Like
movie theater going the way that you're used to maybe
a thing of the past. It may just become some

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trendy art house deal where there's recliners and there's thirty
people that are allowed to go in. And I'm not
even talking because of COVID. I'm just talking about it's
going to become this like vintage retro thing because movie
theaters aren't gonna be there anymore. Everything is different this year,
and a ton of people have lost a ton of
money in the process, including a bunch of universities. They've

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got big endowments, but they've lost a ton of money.
And in the NFL had to play or they were
gonna lose billions. You've seen that all across the board.
So how much does that harm a school like Michigan.
I know it would hurt a smaller school worse. But
does hardball survive longer because of the circumstances of this

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year or do you look at that and say hogwash?
Get him out? I bet you if you're in ann Arbor,
or if you're a Michigan alumni, especially if you're funding
the school after the fact, I would love to hear.
And you can tweet me, by the way, I don't
know if I put out my Twitter account or not,

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but it's at j Mart Radio. That's where you can
find me, especially if you happen to be a Michigan fan.
I would just love to know what's on your mind
because We've all heard the same argument as it relates
to Jim Harball, and that is well, who are you
going to get that's better? And my argument from that is, well,
I can get you somebody and go one and three.

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I can definitely get you somebody that gets absolutely embarrassed
by Wisconsin. I can get you somebody that can lose
to Indiana, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. I promise you I
can do that. And I can easily get you somebody's
gonna get just humiliated by a by Ohio State. A

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little bit later on this year, Jim Harten like the
thing about it is well, who who are you gonna
get that's better? Well, who was saying he's good? I
think that's the thing that we kind of came to
on this program over the last few weeks. At this point,
do you think Jim Harball is good? At this? Seems
like maybe he said it back to the NFL or

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he should be thinking that way because there are teams
that would like to have his services back. This is
not working out the way that you thought it was
going to. If you were Michigan, you didn't get Stanford.
Jim Harbaugh at the end, the talk of the town.
Right before he went to the NFL. You got the
guy that had kind of worn out as welcome in
San Francisco came back to Michigan and you're like, Okay,

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well this is gonna be fun. Hardball talks, he's competitive,
he's fiery, he is smart, he knows what he's doing.
This should ignite this program. Well, that dude's been there
for a long time. And you tell me what Michigan
has actually gotten for all the money that they've paid,
other than maybe a little bit more attention. Because hardball

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attracts a little bit more attention, and he takes veiled shots,
for instance, at the Southeastern Conference or other teams, and
you know, accuses him of this or whatever else. But
right now I do applaud him for saying the buck
stops here. I'm part of this problem. You were large
part of this problem. In college it's about the coaches

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more than it's about the players. It's not that way
in the NFL. I've said many times that the celebrities
in American sports are NBA players, NFL quarterbacks, and college
football coaches. Maybe not necessarily in that order, because in
many states that are big time college football states, the

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coach of the main school in that state is the
most well known and most popular and most and by
proxy most powerful person in that state. With all due
respect to Temp Scott or Nicky Hailer or anybody else
in South Carolina. I think Dabbo Swinning kind of has
that title right now. Nobody in Alabama can control what

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Nick Saban can control. When Urban Meyer was the Ohio State,
it was him Ryan Day, It's it's quickly becoming him
in Michigan. I mean, Whitmer became a name him this
year because of COVID and she she became kind of
a flash point on both sides of the aisle politically,
so Gretchen Whitmer's name certainly became more. But Hardball is

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still the guy you think about when you think about
that state. And it's just that way Michigan the tradition
that it holds Hardball has a name. But what's in
a name? Right now, ladies and gentlemen, what's in a
name is one in three with consecutive losses that have

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gotten worse each time. Again, if you can't beat Ohio State,
which is why you go to Michigan, you go to
Michigan to compete against Ohio State first, and you coach
at Michigan, and you continue to be allowed the privilege
to coach at Michigan because the expectation is you're at
least gonna go fifty fifty against Ohio State. But if

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you can't beat Ohio State, then you damn sure better
beat Michigan eight. And that's not happening either. So you
tell me if the argument, I feel like the argument
is now out the window. Well, who are you gonna
get that's better than Jim Harbaugh? I don't know, but
eventually you have to do something else. I mean, you're

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just running into a wall right now. This is insanity.
This is doing the same thing over and over again,
expecting a different result and getting the same result, which
is very mediocre. And right now it's two games below
five in the Big Ten, and it's a story that
I'm leading this show off with instead of the NFL

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because of how bad this whole thing looks. Who are
you gonna get that's better than Jim Harball. We might
need to have a discussion about whether or not Jim
Harbaugh is better than in sort of a whole lot
of other guys. I'm not so sure you couldn't get
somebody better than Jim Harball right now out This is

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textbook change of scenery stuff at the University of Michigan.
This is a guy that needs to go somewhere else,
probably needs to go back to the pros. He has
succeeded in college and he hasn't been just a disaster
at Michigan. But this we're this season, we're approaching disaster.
So that's where we lead off with. That's one big
tent story. There's another big tent story that we're gonna

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talk about on the other side of this break. Plus
I want to certainly bring in the crew and talk
about hardball a little bit with them, and we certainly
will get to the NFL. Just a lot of show
and a lot of football to talk about this morning.
But again, if you happen to be a Michigan fan,
or a Michigan student, or a Michigan alumnus and you're

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out there listening this morning, tweet me at j Mart
Radio and tell me how you feel about Jim Harball today,
or you can even call us at eight seven ninety
nine on Fox. We don't take a lot of calls
on this show, but we will if you want to
call in and tell about that. Six three, six nine.
Jason Martin Show rolls right along next on Fox Sports Tradio.

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Welcome back, Jason Martin Show, Fox Sports Radio. We were
brought to you by Geico. I'm glad have you with
us wherever you happen to be this morning on this
Sunday week tend in the NFL. We'll talk about that
a little bit later on. It was all horrdball all
the time. In that first segment, we're about to talk

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about the other Big ten story as we're kind of
in competition now for the most just the result that
might be more surprising between the two, but Hardball's teams
one and three, it was just truly brutal again. The
rushing yards man three forty one to forty seven, Wisconsin

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over in Michigan four nineteen over all yardage, seventy five
in total plays, and forty minutes and fifteen seconds of
a sixty minute game controlled by Wisconsin to nothing. They
fell behind Wisconsin for the second consecutive season, and Hardball says,

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not a good place as a football team right now,
and that falls on me. I think it was a
couple of weeks ago. Hardball said it may have even
been last week. He said, I know it doesn't look
like it, but we're close. How close are we now? Coach?
You lost forty nine to eleven at home to Wisconsin, which, look,

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Wisconsin is a good football team, But Michigan doesn't lose
forty to eleven, especially at home. You know how I
know it because that's the largest at home lost for
Michigan since nineteen thirty five. It's their worst start overall
since nineteen sixty seven. Usually at this point in time,

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I bring in Chris Perfett. I'm gonna do that now
because you know, you know that area very well, and
usually you always have something pretty pertinent to say about this.
But I mean, the excuses are kind of done for
Jim Harbaugh when you get blown out like this and
you're one in three, Like I don't. I'm trying to
figure out how he survives this in a non pandemic year.
I don't think there's even a chance. No, I whatever

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excuses there were, whatever holdouts I saw last week where
there were a few fans still saying, you know, who
are we going to get that better? Those are all
gone now. It's all over. I don't know anyone who's
standing by Harbaugh at this point. The only question is
how many more lasses are gonna rack up between now
and Ohio State, And then how many points is Ohio

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Stay gonna lay on you? And that that's probably going
to be when when the bow breaks like He's gonna
probably last the rest of the season there, But I
can't see any other way he survives there unless he
suddenly miraculously pulls out a game against Ohio State, and
even then I don't even know if that's enough to
really bring him back. At this point, you suffer three

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losses in a row, you lose to your in state rival,
you just just get dumped on. The good news for
you is that Indiana looks legit. In Indiana looks legit,
so that loss doesn't look as bad. But still to
get dump truck by Wisconsin to the effect that this
hasn't been done since nineteen it's just not good. And

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like the Nights started with Milton throwing back to back picks,
these are his guys. These are all the these student
athletes are all the guys that hardball has recruited, and
nothing he has really come home. And I don't know
what else to say at this point. I I just
I'm I'm gonna be curious with the opening line for Michigan.

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Ohio State is going to be in a few weeks time,
that's all I've got left. That's a really bad Ohio
State might just tear them a new one. I don't
just it's gonna be really ugly, and I don't know
how he survives this here. I just don't. So you
you said the thing about Indiana, You're like, you know,
Indiana looks good. Michigan State doesn't look good. Though. Michigan

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State lost to Rutgers before they went to Michigan and
one four and since that point Christ to seven got
absolutely just demolished by Iowa and then got shut out
by the aforementioned Indiana. Uh so they're they're only win
this season is against Michigan, which by the week is

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a worse, a worse and worse win. Like that's where
you are at Michigan. You're now the team where it's like,
does it really mean anything to beat Michigan. Yeah, but
I will say I will say to the Michigan State fans,
if they can only win one game this year, they
will gladly take they are. They are a petty bunch,
which I love them for that. I'm not saying as

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a negative Michigan State fans. They love to hold a grudge.
So let's look at the rest of the schedule at Rutger's. Okay,
I think Michigan probably wins that one state would somebody
has to win that game. Michigan or Penn State has
to win. Maryland isn't. Yeah exactly. Uh, Maryland is no
gimme by any means, especially with the way Tonga Voloa

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is playing, and then Ohio State. I probably see one
win in there against um Rutgers. Think about that, Michigan.
What were they ranked to start the year top twenty, right, Yeah, yeah, uh,
we're talking about if you're right, if that prediction is right,

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and I certainly have no reason not to agree. That's
a two and six season, Chris, that's dreadful, like that's
that's that's bottom of the dumpster. Now, imagine if we
played out the rest of the schedule here. They I
don't even remember what their schedule was going to be
coming into this year. Before COVID nineteen, they would have

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probably had, you know, two mid majors in there for
the out of conference that they would have played. And
then I think, didn't they have some big marquee game
scheduled for this year? Were they playing like an Alabama
or someone? Oh, yeah, you're talking about Michigan, right, Michigan. Yeah,
they were playing something. They were playing a marquee game.
I see. I try to find the original schedules now,

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and it's like they've all been memory hold, like you
can't actually find what was supposed to happen. But yeah,
there was something on the schedule like that. I mean,
I know it's a weird year, but everybody is going
through the same weird challenges and this is, I guess unbelievable.

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I guess my point is basically, imagine what we what
this would be look like for Michigan if we were
playing a full season. Maybe there is something, And maybe
this is an argument in favor of all the people
who are defending stuff like playing mid majors and and
FCS schools to start the year. Maybe they do need
are missing out on that kind of warm up game.

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But they didn't have any problems against Minnesota to start
the year, so they were gonna have to play Washington, Washington.
Michigans have to play Washington on September five. They were
their original schedule would have been at Washington. I would
have called that a loss. Yeah, me too. Versus Ball State,
I'll give him that one. Versus Arkansas State, Arkansas State,

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it's not a slouch, but it's not really too much
of a slouch either. Maybe I'm thinking of past years
in the MAC though. But yeah, let's go on. All right, Wisconsin,
we already know how that went. Penn State, We'll see
how that goes. Neither one of them is any good.
That's the other story we're gonna get to at Michigan State.
Uh whoops, Minnesota, which they won per due Maryland Rutger's, Indiana,

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Ohio State. That would have been their season originally. I
was able to find an article from March where they're like, hey,
it doesn't look like football is gonna get affected. Here's
what's gonna happen. Yeah, Perdu would have been an interesting one,
I think. I mean, they played very well up until
I know they had the Wisconsin game canceled. They played
well to start the year. They beat Iowa in a

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close one. I you know what, I would have probably
given Perdue. The win very close, but I think Perdue
could have pulled that out. And that's that's where we be.
In a in a fictional non COVID twenty, we'll be saying, Michigan,
you're losing to Purdue. Uh yeah, Uh, it's not great
times right now at Michigan. Eric, I know you're not

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a giant college football guy, but watching this, how does
Hardball survive this? I don't know if he does. Man,
it's it's college being a college football coach and being
one of the I don't want, I mean not throw
out the word elite in this conversation. Is is weird
to do? But blood? Yeah? And you're up. That was
like a those Pinnacle programs and you're you're Jim Hardball.

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You have little to none. If you're an urban myri
you have little to know and no room of area.
If you're Nick Saban, you know you have little to none.
You lose one game and people are calling for your job.
I mean, how many is he gonna lose by this point?
And it's the year after year at this point, so
his leash is definitely short, if it's even there at
this point, and it could be a lost season, if
you know the can I ask you this, Eric, because

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I mean, I know you're as much of an NFL
guy as me. I think as the season goes on,
I guess I gotta ask because people are still thinking, hey,
Hardball could come back to the NFL. He could be
you know that people. People still put stock in a
Hardball in the NFL. But if he keeps losing more
at Michigan, do you think it hurts his stock going
back as being an NFL higher? Uh? I mean I

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don't think. I don't think so, because then the people
would just draw from what he did back before. You know,
he's he took the fort Naris his super Bowl, and
then even then it's that was eight years. Yeah, people
will still choose to when when they do hire him,
if he does make the jump back to NFL, people
will pull from Look what he did Stanford. It's almost
like they find reasons to make it. Um. I guess,

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like worthy, a worthy higher, they'll try to find it.
They'll try to make it. They'll spruce it up. But
you know what he's doing now, it's not not helping
the case, that's for sure. It's It's bad times in
ann Arbor high. I can tell you that. But maybe
the more surprising thing isn't Michigan. It's Penn State. Penn

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State is oh and four. James Franklin is oh and four.
Penn State was preseason top ten in the country and
they have one, precisely zero games to this point. This
is very surprising. Now, again, the Indiana loss looks better

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because Indiana does look legit. But I wonder if Indiana
is now looking back like man that went over Penn
State didn't really mean much, did it. Penn State lost
thirty thirty five to EU with the Michael Pennox Jr.
Over time stretch. Then they got beat by Ohio State. No,
you don't have to feel terrible about yourself by losing

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by thirteen two Ohio State. Then they got beat by Maryland,
and then they got beat by Nebraska today thirty to
twenty three in a sloppy game that was kind of
dull down the stretch, and the corn Huskers were able
to hold Penn State out of the end zone in
the final minute to hold on to that victory. So

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Penn State in the bottom of the East with Rutgers
above them. They're looking up at Rutgers right now. That's
what we're looking at here. That's how bad things are
at present for Penn State Nebraska. That was Nebraska's Was
that Nebraska's first win of the season. I think it was.

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That's no good. Nebraska had gotten killed by Ohio State. Yeah,
it was because they there was constant game got canceled
because of COVID. Then they lost to Northwestern, then they
got their first win again, top ten ranked and oh
and four. So maybe the question is who seed is hotter.

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I'd say it has to be hardball, But James Franklin
has to just be baffled at this point because that
team did have talent. And when you saw the Indiana game,
Penn State was just going up and down the field
on Indiana. Still find I would lose that game, but
they were chewing up yards and it's not mattering at all.

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I mean four Penn State now just to go five hundred,
they've got to run the table on the way out
against Iowa, Michigan Rutgers in Michigan State. Can they do it? Yes?
I mean Michigan would have been one where I'm like, oh,
I don't know, but this year certainly they can. Iowa
won't be easy, Rutgers should be easy, Michigan State should

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be easy. But that Penn State Michigan game on November
which was you would have to think originally, you're looking
at that like, alright, the winner of that game could
be in position to do some brand of damage here. Uh,
it's gonna get you know. The loser of that game
is gonna be out of it in the East and

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da da da da da and all of this, and
that game is now kind of like a it's kind
of a toilet bowl. It's kind of a sadness Bowl
at this point in time because by the time we
get there, those teams are total afterthoughts, like they can
make a bowl. Penn State this year can make a
bowl with no wins. I would hope they would decline
it quite frankly, but eventually they'll win. But they're currently

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seventh in the Big Ten. East. Michigan and Penn State
are being talked about for every possible wrong reason on
the field. It has nothing to do with anything off
the field. It just has to do with not being
able to win. And it's fascinating because James Franklin was
one of the guys that was on television during the
whole COVID thing, you know, begging to try and play,

(29:49):
trying to find a way to play. I mean, of
course every college football coach wanted the season to happen,
but one of James Franklin's like, gosh, man, maybe we
should just cancel the season, because then we could have
talked about what could have been at Penn State instead
of what we've actually seen at Penn State, which who
oh and four lost in Nebraska. Now. I don't know

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what you do from here, but I don't think anybody
saw that coming open this season. Brian Finley is back.
Let's go to be Let's find out what is going
on be you. You just departed last week after your
record performance in our NFL picks, and I'm trying to
figure out what you were doing. If you were George Costanza,
that told a good joke and you're like, I'm about

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I'm done, and he walked out of the room. It
was probably the one and only time that I will
beat everybody in scoring as far as naming off the
winners of these NFL games. However, get used to it, guys,
get used to it. I'm starting to really feel the
rhythm of the NFL schedule, and I think you're gonna

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see more of some beatdowns on my behalf. Just get
ready for it a little bit. Yeah, Chris, why don't
you cut that little piece of audio because I have
a film. We might need to play that again in
a couple of weeks. When Bentley goes like three and
twelve guys a buffet of college football on Saturday. Number
two Notre Dame busting apart Boston College thirty one, Ian

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book with four scores. Sixth ranked Florida rolling up Arkansas
sixty thirty five, Kyle Trask through six touchdowns. Number eleven
Oregons shooting away Washington State forty nine. The Ducks get
their first win in Pullman in six years. Thirteenth ranked
Wisconsin smearing Michigan forty nine to eleven. Wolverines quarterback Joe

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Milton did not complete a pass to one of his
own guys until after the Badgers went up twenty eight
to nothing. Milton was intercepted on his first two throws,
and Wolverine said coach Jim Harbog groaning after the game quote,
not in a good place with the execution, not in
a good place with adjusting and what we're doing schematically

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not in a good place as a football team right now,
and that falls on me close. Quote number ten, Indiana
roughing up Michigan State twenty four nothing, the Spartans puking
away five turnovers, twenty usc you're running in a touchdown
with twenty five seconds left to surprise Arizona thirty. Dustin Johnson,

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who leads the Masters by four strokes at sixteen under
divulging his mental approach to today's final round. There's a
lot of really good players right around me, and some
have to go out and play aggressive when I can
and and play smart when you know, when I can,
you know, But I'm still gonna have to put together
a really good round if I want to put on
that green jacket after tomorrow. Johnson teeing off his final

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round today right before nine thirty a m. Eastern. As
I send it back to Jason Martin, and like you
guys were talking about with Jim Harbaugh, it just seems
that you're seeing a lot of social media angst around
him because he wasn't ever really humble. And I think
when you're really boastful that when you start to fall,

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then people start to pour and pilot on you m
how about that, I'll let you job. Just let that
one just I'll let that one dangle out there. Man,
I'm just gonna let it live on its own. And
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hard part figuring out which way is easier. Chris, we
talk hardball. How bad is this for Penn State and
James Franklin in particular? This is gonna be pretty bad
here too. This is the guy who kind of again
was asked to turn it around and Ben State was
one of those schools if I remember really arguing and
pounding the table for the Big ten to come back,

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and you're you've kind of repaid that all by blanking
the season so far. I how many? Dropping my memory again,
I'm not I'm not up on this as much. James
Franklin has been there. I'm trying to remember how many
years he's been at Penn State. Now this has got
to be like his It's no, it's a little about

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six years because Derek Mason has been at Vanderbilt for
six or seven years, which still blows my mind. Yeah,
and this is again another one of those programs that
holds itself to a very high standard. And look, Penn State,
It's time in the Big Ten as of recently has
not been what it wants to be. It wants to
be up here, and you know, I I remember talking

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with James Franklin at Big Ten media days when he
kind of made that leap over from Vanderbilt two Penn State,
and they had some good years. They put together, you know,
winning seasons and kind of put them back on the map.
But it really hasn't, you know, metastasized in the way
they've wanted to. I mean, I think for I think
for Franklin it is a little easier to play off

(34:56):
this year as kind of an aberration, if only because
like last year he went eleven and two and if
I recall, I think they finished eighteen. They were they
were ranked as well in as well. I mean, he's
had a lot of winning games recently, So I don't
know what the problem is with Penn State this year.
For Harbor. I I think in the case of Harbor,
you just you you've run out of excuses on why

(35:18):
you're getting done for Penn State. I think it's a
little easier to pull off this year. Is saying, Okay,
it's just it's weird, we don't know what's happening, but
but you better not do it again next year. No,
absolutely not. He's got no leash next year. Halftime scores
as we're going into the break this season for Penn State,
Tyler Donohue. Two, we did this out during halftime seventeen

(35:41):
seven in the opener six seven seven six, So they
trailed by ten, fifteen, one, and twenty one in their
four games this year. Uh. Not good, but not not great, Bob. Uh.
Not not what you're looking for there if you're Penn State.
So a little bit lean times for two blue bloods

(36:02):
in the Big Ten, and those are fans that don't
really allow this to happen for very long. The hardball
seat has to be the hottest one in college football. Uh,
And that's that's well learned at this point in time.
At least, he's saying it starts with him, and that's
just because he knows. At this point in time, what
else are you gonna say? You can't blame it on
the kids. Uh, you either coach him up or somebody

(36:24):
else is going to This is your roster and right
now you're one in three. If you're Michigan. We'll be
right back. Jason Martin Show, Fox Sports Tradio. Welcome back,
Jason Martin Show, Fox Sports Radio. Interesting did not expect
to read an Associated Press article from Ralph Russo that

(36:46):
says is the time right for USC to hire Franklin
oh and four Penn State. Maybe it's time for James
Franklin to move to Southern cow and jettison Clay Helton.
Interesting timing of that USC's two and oh, not that
it's an impressive too and oh, but they are too
and oh and too and oh is more impressive. I

(37:07):
don't care how you do it. To and O is
more impressive than oing for both last second wins for USC. Yes,
they're not impressive, but I'd still rather be to a
O than oing four. Like, I don't care how great
I looked. If I'm owing four, I'm still owing four.
Like that's um. It's like, man, I was great at
that job, but I got fired. Okay, so there you go.

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That's just a I was not expecting because I'm during
the break, I was looking to see just kind of
what people had been saying about Franklin today, and I mean,
it doesn't look like the seat is high, just like
just kind of looks like this is a lost season.
But it is the again, another one of those historical
deals you coach at one of these schools. History can
be on your side with some really cool stats, and

(37:50):
then it can be stuff like Penn State falls to
oh and four for just the second time in program history.
They've been outscored ninety three to twenty six in the
first half this season. Remember I read those first half
UH numbers through all the games, game by game, and

(38:11):
it went from being down ten to down fifteen to
the last two weeks being down. Do you remember that?
You remember that anonymous pull at CBS Sports put out
about overrated coaches and I found it and like the
two quotes they had on James Franklin. He came out
like a hundred and twenty nine active coaches were pulled

(38:32):
back in eighteen. He was the tied for that most
um overrated votes with Willie Tagger and Florida State. So
the two quotes were about him, about James Franklin. James
Franklin his coaching peers. No, he's full of it. And
then the other one was, um, where to go? Where
to go? It was about how he's gonna coach after
Sea Kwon Barkley leaves a program all right here. When

(38:53):
Franklin got the Penn State job, I thought, man, he's
a good marketer. He did a nice job with that.
It would be interesting to see without say Kwan, he's
underrated it. He turns a lot of not no game
plays into sixtyr touchdowns. Look, James Franklin coached at Vanderbilt,
and he won nine games at Vanderbilt, And that was
right here in this city. And I was actually on

(39:13):
air when he left to go to Penn State. I
was called in to do breaking news about James Franklin. Levin.
I met James Franklin one time. Uh, he wasn't here
long because it was pretty soon after I started my
career that he departed. And he was incredibly nice, incredibly kind,
incredibly personable, and it came across incredibly inauthentic. It came

(39:35):
across incredibly run for office, James Franklin. That's what it
felt like to me. And I'm not alone in that.
There are other people that have kind of said the
same thing. It was a bit of a disingenuous nature
to James Franklin. I also have friends that are very
close friends with James Franklin that would say the exact opposite.
But as a coach, he is a great marketer. He's

(39:57):
a great promoter, just like Harball is. That's what he
does best is he makes you think that you want
to go play for him. But as a coach, yikes
the overrated number and the overrated comments. Eric just read
definitely ring true. Second Hour next, Welcome back. Second hour

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I talked about this yesterday with Lincoln Kennedy and I've
still it's still just kind of got me near the
edge of my see it in the wrong way, like
I want to stand up and yell because I saw

(41:04):
this and I was just like, why are you saying this? Now?
We were talking about James Franklin kind of being inauthentic.
At the end of that last hour. There was a
little bit of politician in James Franklin. I met him
one time here in Nashville when he's head coach of Vanderbilt.
Couldn't have possibly been nicer. I have friends that are
very very close friends with Franklin and his family, but

(41:26):
from the outside looking in, just my impression meeting him
was Okay, well, this guy wants my vote. This guy
is gonna try my wife's you know, fried twinkie or
whatever to win the caucus. There's just a politician. There's
an inauthenticity to it. What we do for a living,

(41:47):
there's a lot of inauthentic people or or let me
change that. I don't want to talk about the people themselves.
I want to talk about some of the things that
they say and do. This is we gotta be careful
not to attack the performer, but the performance. It's nothing
personal here. But there are people in the media that
love to hear themselves talk that love them more than

(42:10):
anybody else loves them, and they want to generate content
for himself. It's just to drive me nuts on ESPN
in the middle of the week when they had no
story and then all of a sudden at the time
and be like Herm Edwards or somebody like that would
say something early in the morning and then that would
become a talking point and something to ask everybody else

(42:32):
about all day. It's just like, we know what you're doing,
we get it. We know that you were handed the
talking points before the show and it was very clear, Hey,
this three man, this three of you, or this four
of you or whatever, I need you to take this side.
You to take this side, you to take this side.
So Bart Scott, who played eleven years in the NFL,

(42:55):
a very good career and a pretty likable guy to listen.
I mean, he's energetic and a lot of times watching
him play, he felt like he was auditioning for his
media life. But he's another one of these guys that
wants to make news with comments. He ran it about

(43:16):
Kyler Murray and questioned his ability to lead from the
Arizona Republic is where this story kind of emanated after
they lost to the Dolphins last week, which was a
tough loss. The thirty four great game with two Watanga

(43:37):
Voloa and Kyler going step for step two we got
the better of it. Is a great day of play
calling by Jan Gailey. One loss and then Kyler Murray
has a post game where he's got real short answers
and he's taken five to seven seconds of silence before
he's answering some of these questions. Now, I look at that,

(44:02):
and you're probably thinking the same thing here. You look
at that and you think, well, that was a tough loss.
He's young, and he's not used to losing all that much.
Now he's in Arizona, so he lost a good bit
last year. But he came from Oklahoma where he didn't
lose very much at all. And when you're a number
one pick, you haven't lost in life very much either.
And he had a chance to play baseball and gave
up five mill to come play football, which I think

(44:25):
has turned out to be the right call. But that's
a tough loss, and sometimes you don't handle losses as well.
There's a reason why the day after a victory we
have a Tennessee Titan on my daily radio show in Nashville,
and the day after a loss. We don't. We end
up getting them days after the fact. But here's what

(44:51):
Bart Scott said on radio last week about Kyler Murray. Quote,
this isn't a one off. If you listen to some
of his inner views after they lost, especially last year
when it was a tough season, he doesn't come off
as to me a leader of men. Remember when they
talked about his leadership and talked about how it was

(45:11):
questioned when he came out. They said he didn't interview. Well,
this is a big me guy, you're saying. I think
he's all about me. He doesn't put the onus on himself.
He puts it like we have to do something better
when the team struggles. So that tells you he's a
finger pointer, not a thumb pointer. Listen, I said it first.
Kyler Murray is not a leader of men. And if

(45:32):
this team hits adversity, they lose Fitzgerald, they ever have
an injury to Hopkins, he's going to come apart at
the seams. He's going to be one of those guys
that goes out and spases out on a reporter. He's
gonna be one of those guys. I know what I know,
and I know what I'm watching. What is a leader men?

(46:01):
How do you even define it? And is it even
a phrase that needs to be used? And bart Scott
sure as hell knows about me, guys, doesn't he? Because
Bart Scott never met a camera, never met a microphone,
never met an interview opportunity that he didn't like. Is

(46:25):
he known more for what he did on the field,
or is he known more for can't wait? I was
can't wait about the team? Or was can't wait about
bart Scott? Can't wait? Right? And I could be wrong
about the way that I'm coming across right now describing
bart Scott. Maybe he was all about the team, but

(46:46):
he also liked him some bart Scott. So he's pointing
this out, But he's not saying I know what I know.
I see what I see because he reminds me of me.
He's not saying that. He's just saying he's not a
leader of men, based on the way he acts in
postgame interviews and because he said we have to do

(47:10):
something better now. I will tell you that one of
the things I love about Lamar Jackson is that Lamar
Jackson says the quiet part out loud more often than not,
and it's always about him. It's always I gotta be
better finding Marquis. I mean in Hollywood Brown. He said
that a few weeks ago. Hollywood's out there. I've got
to find him more often. We gotta get more involved

(47:31):
in the offense. Or he'll say after the Chiefs beat
them down, oh man, they that felt like the Titans
game felt like they did exactly what the Titans did,
or a couple of days ago, it feels like they
know what we're calling week after week. But he often

(47:51):
takes the onus on himself. Now, I haven't listened to
Kyler Murray's postgame interviews. I'm just watching the games. There's
so much going on. I don't have time to listen
to and parse every word Kyler Murray is saying after
his games, but the he's gonna be one of those
guys that goes out and spazes out on a reporter
like I guess you could be true, but what are

(48:12):
you basing that on? You realize he hasn't even played
two full seasons, right, He's playing for a historically bad franchise,
bad ownership, A coach that I didn't like the higher
but it seems to be working out. But I think
one of the main reasons it's working out is because
Kyler is so good. And yeah, he didn't interview well.
You remember hearing that at the combine. Maybe that's not

(48:34):
his forte. That doesn't mean he's not a leader because
he's not good in front of a camera. Part. It
doesn't make you a better leader that you can talk
a little better. There might be a radio host out
there right now somewhere in this country that stutters every
five words, but he might be freaking off the charts
compared to me, and I don't stutter all that much.

(48:58):
It's also subject deaf. When you say he's not a
leader of men, you're gonna need to define that for me.
And then I'm just gonna say, I don't know if
bart Scott's someone I need to listen to this treatise
about leadership on from because all I know of bart
Scott was bart Scott making sure that his helmet was

(49:21):
off and he was doing every interview availability he possibly could.
And the Cardinals have come out their GM came out
on radio on Friday and said what bart Scott saying
it's completely untrue. I don't know where he's getting his information,
but I know one thing. I'm in the locker room
with Kyler Murray every day. I'm on the practice field
with Kyler Murray every day, and I have absolutely zero

(49:43):
concerns with his leadership. Behind the scenes, people don't see
what we do. I see Kyler playing chess with five
different teammates. I see him interacting every day, and then
he says, this is the right answer. I will say
this just from what I've heard. It's an emotional game.
And the one thing I love about Kyler Murray, amongst

(50:05):
many things, is his competitiveness. This guy absolutely despises losing
the fact that he takes it so personal. It's something
I actually love. He also refuted that Murray didn't interview well.
He said those pre draft reports. He never heard that
from anybody, not one person. I talked to everybody. I

(50:25):
put in hours upon hours of research into this guy.
He was the first overall pick. I talked to everybody,
from baseball coaches to high school football coaches, the janitors,
two receptionists at the football office, I mean, you name it.
We had no reservations. Now he's not gonna dog his
own guy in an interview. But this is not a
methinks Thou doth protests too much situation. This is Bart

(50:50):
Scott wanting to hear Bart Scott talk. This is Bart
Scott wanting other people to talk about Bart Scott. And
I've given him what he wants here. He's gonna need
to back it up with more than I didn't like
the way he sounded after that game. He's clearly not
a leader. You better have a lot of evidence to
back that charge up, Like you could maybe have that

(51:11):
thought about Cam Newton a couple of years ago, because
there was a history of the way he reacted when
things weren't going well, and he was like, Okay, well,
he's a front runner you definitely wanted when things are
going well. When things are going bad, he is not
gonna be the guy that's gonna pick you up when
you're feeling bad and you need to like go watch

(51:32):
an episode of the Office. Or for my wife, I've
caught her now multiple times in the last six months,
today being one of them. I took a nap and
I came out of the bedroom. She's in the living
room half asleep watching You've Got Mail. This is the
third time at least that she's watched that You've got
Mail has been on. So it's just her comfort food.

(51:53):
We all have that. I've talked about this before. There's
there's blue shows and red shows. This way I talked
about television products. There's just things that make you feel good,
that you know by heart, that you can watch over
and over again, and that you do and I mean you.
One of the best examples of it is what we're
about to see with the Christmas holiday. I'm gonna watch
Home Alone like four times a week. It's just gonna

(52:16):
be on. I'm gonna watch Christmas Vacation like three times
a week. It's just gonna be on Charlie Brown Christmas Special,
all of that stuff. We're gonna watch all of that.
It's all comfort food. It's all just part of the game, right.
That's that to me, is is a lot more that

(52:36):
you're gonna need a lot more evidence. Let's just say
that you're gonna need a whole lot more evidence. But
there's no comfort food there. Cam Newton is the anti
comfort food, or that's the way it felt. When he
was in Carolina. It was just no He's the show
that you kind of don't want, Like you don't want
to put on sad song when you're feeling bad. You
either want to listen to no music. You want to
try to get out of that mode. I mean, I

(52:57):
mean after you maybe you need a little bit of
a cry. I don't know. Maybe you're different than me.
That's not how I like to play it. But Kyler
Murray hasn't played long enough or given enough film in
postgame interviews to indicate to me or to Bart Scott,
all due respect, that he's not a leader of men.

(53:18):
You're gonna need more than that. You need to be
behind the scenes and you need to actually be at
practice to make those comments. You need to have sources.
It can't just be I know what I know and
I see what I see. Okay, you may see what
you see, but you don't know very much about Kyler Murray.
None of us do on the NFL level as of yet.
So when you say I know what I know, the

(53:40):
other thing that goes with that statement is I don't
know what I don't know, and you don't know Bart
a hell of a lot about Kyler Murray. We had
Jeff Schwartz on with Lincoln Kennedy and me this morning
or yesterday morning, I guess now Anthony Gargana was out,
so we will play that for you when you when
we come back. A really interest discussion and uh differing

(54:02):
opinions on expanding the college football playoff and just the
wildness of this season as a whole, the quality of play.
A really good conversation. Think you'll enjoy it. That's coming
up next. I'm on Twitter at j mart Radio. We
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(54:45):
So I was in yesterday morning with Lincoln Kennedy on
the Fellas and we had Jeff Schwartz who just to
put this on your radar. Thanksgiving Day and Black Friday.
The two of us, Jeff Swartz and I will be
in for Clay Travis on OutKick the coverage, so you
can put that on your schedule for a couple of
weeks down the road. Jeff and I host that show

(55:06):
most of the time when Clay is out. Can't do
it is often anymore since I'm doing a daily show
now during the same time frame here in Nashville. But
when we can, when it works out, I still enjoy
doing that, so we're gonna do it. We had Jeff
on and we had a really interesting discussion, a lot
of it about college football. Thought it might be uh
something that you didn't get a chance to hear. So
here is our conversation from the Fellas yesterday morning with

(55:29):
Jeff Schwartz. Jeff Schwartz is with us right now. There's
an NFL offensive lineman. He'll be hosting OutKick with me, uh,
Thanksgiving Day and the day after here on fs are
just in a couple of weeks from right now, Jeff,
I can't get away from offensive lineman in my radio career,
Like it's never gonna I'm never gonna host with a quarterback,

(55:50):
running back, a defensive tackle. It's always gonna be oh lineman.
I I have become so biased in favor of offensive lineman.
I was watching Q Nelson. It's just Jeff Simmons more
than I was watching anything else on Thursday Night, as
you should. And you just offensive linement at the heart man,
that's what it is, your your core values. Um, the

(56:11):
way the way you like to eat. I mean you
used to like me, I guess, and you know you're
just an offensive lineman, a heart buddy. So that's why
you just keep working with us. Well, I'm working with
smart people too. That's the other thing I figured out.
Like that you you you all have said this. Ramone
said this too, because offensive linemen are the smartest people
on to try to tell him, and uh, I don't

(56:31):
think that's incorrect because the sheer amount of you guys
that end up doing this, it's pretty high. It's a
pretty high percentage of guys that move from the offensive
line if they want to into some kind of media job.
Like it's not just the two of you and my
co host in Nashville every every weekday. There's there's a
lot of dudes that play in the offensive line that
talk for a living. Now there are. But but if

(56:53):
I'm if I'm correct on this, I think I'm sure,
you went to Washington though, so I'm we're smart. I
know that we're smart and everything, but like going to Washington,
I don't know, Jeff, Let's not turn Let's not turn
this in the duck hunting season. Okay, let's just get through. Well,

(57:13):
speaking of that, Jeff, I want to open it up
with the Pack twelve conversation. We've already had a couple
of games postponed and canceled due to to the COVID outbreak.
That's understandable. But you know, Jason and I were talking
earlier just about the overall body of work and in case,
you know, many people expect you're you're alm the matter
to run the table on the Pack twelve schedule. But
even if they do with that schedule, do you see

(57:34):
them getting considerations in the national playoffs? I don't. Look,
it feels very likely to that not every Pac twelve
team will play will play all their games this year, right,
I mean, with with the cancelations they have and have
had a too difficult to even get the seven games in,
and I hope they do, but you know, style points
are going to matter a lot in this right, So

(57:54):
you know, Oregon is very young. The offensive line. They
have five new offensive line starters. They're young order back.
I mean, there's a real estic chance to going to
Pullman today and route they're just your drunk kids on
the road for the first time. Right of the three
guys on defense leave um for you know, for for
COVID reasons, and so they're just not the same team
they were last year, the team out of the pack

(58:16):
twelve though that can have style points as USC, their
schedule is much easier on the south side. I mean,
they're gonna be favored by double digits. And you know,
they were favored by double digits in Arizona State, but
today their favored by fourteen a half in Arizona. They'll
be favored by fourteen against Colorado and Utah and and
and uh and U. Still A mean, they're gonna be
the team they be looking for style points, which I

(58:38):
think will matter in this They're gonna be the team
Emaough they're probably not better than Oregon, they're not better
than cal and not then Washington probably, but they're gonna
have style points and that's what's gonna matter in the ends.
I think USC might be that team that has the
cool factors that might matter to voters, even though to
be fair, I don't think they would beat the patrol
of North Champion, but I'm here to to uch a in. Jeff,

(59:03):
how about the PAC twelve finding a way to get
a game in? I gotta say, man, I am completely
shocked that our conference pulled this off. Honestly, Like I
a couple of the conference for Living Pattil Radio Monday
through Friday, UM and I know the conference very well
and the swiftness which with with with which they move

(59:25):
this game is utterly shocking for me. I mean, I'm
very glad they did it. Uh, it's a weird year.
Why not play a game on Sunday at at nine
am Pacific in the Rose Bowl? I would I couldn't
imagine if there was allowed fans in this game, and
there might be ten thousand people in that game, and
just like friends and family, the band for students and

(59:45):
like the players like like like that's like it. So
there's no fans in the stands. But looks, you have
to get the games in right and if cal can play,
and they can obviously, and you feel I can play,
why can't they meet each other? They can bust down,
they can fly down to easy bus rides, easy light,
the rose Bulls already booked, you already have hotels booked.
Just don't play the game. Make it happen. And it's

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very odd, right, No one's game plays for each other. Um,
you know they're probably not going to do very much
of it. And just show up and play and you
play your you know, you have based rules in your
office and defense, and you play your based rules and
you just see what happened, and why not. It's a
weird year. Why not have a weird game? Alright? Alright,
no it's not. It's not. But Ohio State in Alabama

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could have played today, you know, like you saw some
people popping that out there because they don't have positive tests.
I know that had been harder to do. But you know,
in a dream landscape, what happened to the SEC this
week in particular, I mean they got ravaged. I think
when when you talk about two big dogs like that,
they both want to play when they have ample time
to prepare for each other. Um, And I think that

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that's a big you know that that's a big thing here.
Plus also if you allow them to play that you
kind of break the idea of conference on the schedules, right,
because then you know, then you could say, well, why
you know, if there's a cancelation, why can we have
more interconference like you know, for example, b y U.
Why can't b YU called Pack twelve team who has
a week off and try to play them? Um? You know,
Like I just think that that was too the moving
parts to meccamp. Now the Big Ten is said, at

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least reports last night, they're they're thinking about being more
flexible like the past twelve conferences. They have to can
they say that you cannot basually reschedule a game after Wednesday?
Obviously this was done Friday. So I think there's room
now to maybe find ways to get some makeup games
in or just kind of schedule games, um, you know
within forty eight hours within your conference. I think it's
tougher to do, uh, you know, non conference type thing. Well,

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I'm clear as to get both of your thoughts Jeff
and Jason, and I'll start with you, Jeff, your thoughts
on the quality of college football that you've seen so
far in lieu of the pandemic and everything that we
have to deal with. And then the Jayson, same question
to you afterwards, I'm not surprised that it's a little sloppy,
especially defensively. We saw in the NFL to the NFL
started pretty slow on defense, and it's picked up as

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it's gone. That's been pretty good. I've been I've been surprised.
I mean, look, I think my equilibrium is a little
thrown off because the past well started so late, like
it was kind of hard to for me to really
get into college coople. But I think I didn't play
is good. NFL has been much better I than anticipated,
and I've enjoyed watching the games. I think that the
quality play has gone better that week had gone on.

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I I agree with that. I do think it's been sloppy.
Somebody said to me right around the beginning of the season,
watched the defense is in particular because it's harder to
get into rhythm running backwards than it is running forward.
So there's gonna be some raggedy defense played, and we've
definitely seen our share of that this year. But my

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my question going in was how are you going to
respond as a young man that loves to get hype
when there's no hype around you, when there's nobody in
the seats who is going to be self motivated here.
We did get a good game last weekend with Notre
Dame and Clemson, and we've gotten a couple of good ones.
But what I've seen more than anything, guys, is there

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are three or four teams that are really off the
charts for eight and then there's everybody else. Uh, there's
a lot of flawed teams right now. But I've actually
thought it's been okay because I wasn't anticipating it being
being all world to begin with, right, But we have
three or four great teams every year, Like that's no surprise.
I mean, it's interesting how we talk about, you know,

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everyone's like spinning playoffs eight games. Look, I'm fine with
that idea. I don't I don't know why. I mean,
I know the competition is a big part of sports,
but realistically, if you have Alabama as the one seed,
let's say in the best human country and they're playing
you know, the eighth team, who's Memphis or or b
y U or Cincinnati, the team is not competitive like right, Like,
there's there's a lot of times where the top three

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or four team in centry and there's that much better.
It's all about recruiting and coaching, and um, you know
there's were you know, we're trying to make up the
difference now. But yeah, there's three or four teams every
year right to Alabama. This year it's Cleans in Ohio State,
Notre Dame. That's kind about it. Well, I was just
gonna say last one for me, Jeff along those lines.

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I hear what you're saying, But don't you just think
though that the Cincinnati is the Central Florida's they deserve
a chance to just throw their hat and then into
the ring. I mean, even if they get squashed, then
at least they showed themselves or showed other people that
either they can be competitive or they're not competitive. Because
Alabama's not going to get any software. I mean, they're
They've got blue chippers stacked up on the beach just

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waiting to get in. And it seems like there are
other places like Clemson and Ohio State they're doing that.
We just can't be talking about the same three teams
or three same three universities every year when it comes
to college football. So I'm glargue. I'm glargue about that.
This is something that talked about a lot, right should
just have the chance I go back to, you know,
people seem to only think that you can play college

(01:04:42):
football to win a championship. I know when I went
to Oregon, we we had one season or even kind
of have the championship and then Dannis towards a cl
like you never go like you know that if you're
going to certain schools, you're not going to win a championship,
Like that's just like part of the sign up process
and what happened to just playing for a conference title,

(01:05:04):
playing to win as many games as possible? Like I don't,
I don't think it's a last season. If you see
goes undefeated and doesn't play Alabama in the playoff, they
still play a New Year's six Bowl game. They played
Auburn that year, right where they played LFC the next year.
Like I don't, I don't really understand why the end
game is always they have to have a chance of

(01:05:25):
a playoff. And yeah, I looked, I guess you could
reward them, But are you gonna take out Oklahoma? Like
it's a four game playoffs? Now you're gonna take out Oklahoma?
Are you gonna take out Notre Dame or Clemson? Like
who you were moving from a four team playoff to
let Cincinnati in the playoffs. Like that's that's like, that's
the question, like, do you really want to see let's
say the number one season's Ohio State this year? Do

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you want to see Ohio State play a number four
Notre Dame, Ohio State play a number four Cincinnati. It's
just I just I think we love underdogs and love
the story of underdog, but we really want to watch
big dogs play. Like in the end, we want to
watch two blue bloods play each other that we know
have kinds of talent, have NFL talent, that we know

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the name of the players, we know the coaches, we
know the history, and those games end up being better anyways.
And so that's that's kind of where I followed. I
just I don't think that everyone has to have an
opportunity to win as championship to still have a good
experience in college football. Well and me, I think that's interesting.
I think that I feel like the playoffs expanded to
eight is how you make that happen. If you expand
it to eight, then you can get it at large

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and you can throw one of those teams in and
it doesn't effect as much but your point about the
blue Bloods is absolutely right. I've said that about the
n C Double A Tournament a lot, which is we
love the upsets in the first two rounds, but man,
in the final four, I want to see Duke. I
want to see Kentucky. I want to see these blue
blood I want to see North Carolina. I want to
see Kansas. I want to see those guys. I don't

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need to see George Mason in the final four. I
wanted to be a fun story for the first week
and then I kind of want to see him getting
knocked off. Like my head can't wrap that, but in
my heart, once I get down to it, I want
to see one versus to the one versus too. That
the matchup that I hope to see all year long,
right and looking, if there's an eight team cultural playoff there,

(01:07:13):
there may be outside champs that Cincinnati were to beat
a one to Alabama. Maybe they're right if Alabama just
fall asleep the first half. Cincinnati's a feeling a thing
to get more turnovers. But they're not winning that second game,
like like they're not getting to the sweet sixteen, and
they're definitely not getting to the semifinals. Like that's it's
just so, yeah, it's the one game would be great.
Look right in Utah has beat Alabama before you talk

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beat pit one year obviously, boys to beat Oklahoma and
those are legendary moments of college football. Um and and
I just look, if it's eight team playoffs, I'd watch
all the games. Of course, I've done all the games.
I would love it. I told me it's necessary. Yeah, well,
I mean four teams is definitely elite, you know. But
at the same point, it's like he gets redundant. I

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understand what you're saying, Jeff about you know that doesn't
no one one has to you know, it should be
always thinking about a national championship. But it's the climate
to which you're graded on. It seems like for a
program like back in our day, we were only thinking
about the Rose Bowl and the win in the back ten.
I get it, you know, and then and then everything
else would fall into place. We weren't thinking about a
national championship. So here's a question. So so, so here's
a question. Because I I posed this last year and

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I got some platform it, but I think ultimately being right.
So Oregan last year won the Tack twelve conference. We
watched two football games you want the tax twelve conference,
and I and I knew our a team well and
I knew that we could not play to l s U.
We you know, we weren't good enough to play Alabama.
We weren't good enough to play Ohio State. We were
like we had a good season, but just we weren't
we would have got our doors being off. We had

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played L s U in that first round game and
a waiting for the Rose. A Rose Bowl win was
better for our program. So losing to l s U
in the playoffs. And I made this argument before the
whole thing ended up playing out and we won the
Rose Bowl. And I maybe it's like in December and
people organ fans like God on me, no, that's not true.
We should away end up being right. Program was so

(01:09:01):
much better for winning a Rose Bowl and just the
recruiting everything, then losing to L s U and ending
our season getting blown out by L s U. And
so like I just I don't know, and and literally
maybe I'm wrong on that thought, just from a kind
of program building identity, going and bowling up Wisconsin and
Rose Bowl is better than you know, getting sixty five
hung on you by L s U and I just

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I don't know. If they're playing in a playoff is
always better for everybody. Well, my answer to that is
that you were two plays away from beating Auburn, you know,
and if you would, if if Oregon would have beat
Auburn in the first game of the season, if that
my memory serves me, correcting, and sometimes it doesn't because
I was an offensive linem hitting ahead many times. Um,
but if if, if my memory serves me, if you

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had one, that, if the Oregan had won that game,
they would have represented the Pack twelve in the playoff.
And the only reason, but not the only, not the
only reason, but one of the reasons why I want
the Pack twelve because you and I think very high,
very highly of our conference, okay, and we want them
to have some sort of national recognition. But now we
are looked as we are looked as the it's the
Big four, you know, uh, the conferences in plus one

(01:10:08):
is the Pac twelve because we have not won those
premier games. You're not going to know what you need
to do or how to do it until you get
a chance to see it or and to be it. Um.
I remember when Alabama played Washington in the Peachbow, how
Alabama's pack Washington around. I got it. And then standing
on the sideline covering that when a cousin covering that
game was a guest at the game, I saw Alabama's
team and I was like, those are some grown ass

(01:10:29):
man over there, and this this is not a college team.
This is a This is a team that you take
out of prison, right, I mean so, but you gotta
get yourself. You gotta get yourself on that level to
be able to compete. So the reason why I'm saying that,
you know, trying to make the argument not only to
expand the playoffs and give every man a chance, it's
also to see where you stand up, where the PAC
twelve will stand up. Because I believe conference championships are

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worthy for challenging for a national championship. That's what I
That's what summarized, and I fully believe in that. But
like I've seen, maybe it's a PAC twel PTSD. I've
seen try to play in those games and we continue
to lose those games, and like and I look and
I think that, Look, it's a recruiting thing. And that's
why I like Mario crystal ball organ because what he

(01:11:10):
does if he recruits giant humans, He's like, we need
to have we have. We had two guys this year
over four hundred pounds. They've lost each of them. A
bunch of weight we had to guard this year started
first game came in about four hundred pounds and three
twenty five. Now we just recruit big bodies. Because Mario
has been in the SMC, he understands that you need
to have dudes to to compete. So I think you

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can build a program to compete with with with these
big dogs through recruiting without playing those teams until you're
kind of quote unquote ready to play them. So I
understand that if you want a conference championship, that's fantastic
and you should be rewarded for that. But I just
have like packed to all PTSD Man. I mean we've
we've lost like eight of those games in a row.

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Ohio C Alabama l s U Alburn. Yeah, we DIAT
Wisconsin last year. Like it's just we keep losing those games,
and like, I just have this ets west of playing
these games when we're not ready to play again. Jeff Man,
I just looked up at the clock, and I realize
we're out of time. We never even mentioned in the NFL.
That was a hell of a discussion. My friend's always
good to catch up with you. I'm looking forward to

(01:12:13):
host him with you in a few weeks too. I
have a great afternoon, guys. Enjoy the football this weekend.
Another weekend to place some football. I love it. That
was Jeff Schwartz with Lincoln Kennedy and with me yesterday
morning here on FS are a really good conversation. And yeah,
we didn't get to pro football. We're gonna get to
a lot of pro football. And third hour of this
show as we picked the game's top to bottom. We

(01:12:34):
do it every single week. Plus, I want to talk
a little bit about Matthew Stafford and Deshaun Watson. We
gotta get to Finlany. Let's go to Brian Finley find
out the latest in the world of sports, including Dustin Johnson.
Just kind of taking it from the masters right now,
taking the drama out of a Jason. He had a
sixty five on Saturday, has a four shot lead going
into today's final round. He is at sixteen under annual

(01:12:57):
tee off. Just before nine thirty a m. East during
Phil Mickelson eighteen shots off the face a seventy nine
for him on Saturday, and Tiger Woods could not make
up any ground on that third round, eleven strokes behind
going into Sunday. Jim Harbaugh has Michigan out to their
worst start since nineteen sixty seven. Thirteenth ranked Wisconsin skull

(01:13:21):
crushing the Wolverines forty nine to eleven as the Big
Blue sulk to one in three. Sixth ranked Florida lighting
up Arkansas sixty five. Kyle Trask through six touchdowns, Number
two Notre Dame outperforming Boston College one Ian book with
four scores. Number eleven Oregon casting aside of Washington State

(01:13:42):
forty nine, the Ducks falling behind by twelve points in
the first half. NFL Network pouring out some Week ten
injury updates. Giants wide receiver Golden Tate is on path
to suit up after he hurt his knee last week.
Chargers offensive lineman Brian Bulaga and Trede Turner are shaping
up to play today after injuries. Lines tight and T. J.

(01:14:05):
Hawkinson is playing through an injured toe, and Cardinals running
back Kenyan Drake is on track to play after an
ankle sprain as we sent it back to Jason Martin,
who will play and do radio despite any injury that
might come about later. Matt, I'm playing hurt all this
all the time. Sleep has become something that's It's a

(01:14:27):
good thing that I'm not used to getting very much
of it anymore, because, Uh, in a handful of months,
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(01:14:50):
learn about the Bucks a week ago? How much was
over reaction? And how good are the Saints? It was
the Sunday night game. We were all geeked about it
on this show, and then by halftime cool. I guess
I can go to sleep because it was a total laugher.
So we'll discuss just the hyperbole that exists in this

(01:15:11):
industry and just in general after a game like that.
It was one football game or was it more? We'll
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(01:15:53):
either be wrong or right in that order. Just kidding.
The crew is Eric roberts Kurst for Fette and Brian Finley.
They will be very active with me in the third
hour of this show. Last week that Marquis Sunday night
game with the Bucks and the Saints, I sat down
just all set to watch this, and by halftime I

(01:16:15):
was laying down prepared to go to sleep. I mean,
it's an early wake up call for me. So I
almost appreciate the Saints for doing what they did, but
I could not believe just how it napped Tampa Bay looked,
and I certainly could believe the response to it, which is, Okay,
we've gone from Tom Brady the m v P candidate,
to Tom Brady is a complete fraud. And we've gone

(01:16:38):
from Drew Brees might have lost, you know, a lot
off his fastball too. Drew Brees is gonna win Super
Bowl because that's apparently how this thing goes. But what
did we really learn. Well, we learned that the Saints
were good football team, and that's kind of it. I
don't know what we learned about Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay
still the problem for Tampa Bay. And I said this

(01:17:00):
going in the season, there's a lot of new pieces there.
They have to gel. They didn't play well out of
the gate, and then they kind of have have improved
and but they've still had their little hiccups and I
think a lot of it's just new personnel. And me
had Antonio Brown out there for the first time last week.
There's just a lot of things that didn't make for

(01:17:22):
easy bedfellows. The same way a team that's been together
for a while that's jelled, that hasn't had a lot
of turnover in this last offseason, especially teams that really
knew each other with the shortened offseason and the changes
and just all of the weirdness that we're seeing in
college football, we're certainly seeing in the National Football League
as well well. The Bucks were the epitome of a

(01:17:45):
team that was being put together and it was gonna
take some time. So what generally happens there is you
have a lot of good, but you also have some bad.
And sometimes you have a lot of bad and some good.
But in case of Tampa Bay, you know they've got
a winning record easily the should be a playoff team,
but they ran into a really good team and it
was a division loss. And now they've lost twice to

(01:18:05):
the Saints, and what does that mean, Well, it probably
means they're not gonna win the division, but there sure
seems like they're still a playoff team. Their defensive d
v o A was still number one even after what
they lost last week. So it was not Skyes falling.

(01:18:25):
It was just a bad loss. It wasn't a bad
loss to a bad team. It was a bad loss
because of how lopsided it was. And I think that
what it told us was that the Saints might be
who we thought they were. That's who I picked from
the NFC to go to the Super Bowl against the
Chiefs in the preseason. I still think Drew Brees may

(01:18:46):
still hit a wall before the end of the year.
I don't think he's the same quarterback that he was.
But he gets Michael Thomas back, and Michael Thomas is
a factor. Camara is a beast. They're just carving up
the field. There's even add punts in this game. Everything's
going wrong for Tampa Bay. Guys are going down for
a player two, missing key spots, and nobody's open and

(01:19:09):
Brady is a little bit off. It was just a
dominant performance. Is one of the most dominant statistical analytical
performances in the history of the league. Was what the
Saints did last week. And this happens. I mean, Pittsburgh
was undefeated and they're still undefeated, but they went to
Dallas and almost lost. It's just stuff happens in the
National Football League. There are things that you see where

(01:19:31):
you're like, okay, now that's a problem that can linger.
And that's like Seattle going to Buffalo and losing, not
because they lost to the Bills, but because again it
exposed how terrible their defense is. There are things that
you see that you know are trends, not lips. But
I don't know that we learned all that much about
Tampa Bay other than they're not the best team in football.

(01:19:53):
But we already knew that. We also know they're dangerous
and now in any given week they can beat anybody.
On any given week, the Saints can beat anybody as well.
I mean it's true for anybody in the NFL, but
I mean, really looking at it, like, I know the
Jets can get a win. Technically, it's true about every team,
but I'm actually thinking a little bit higher playing here.

(01:20:16):
So the overreaction was hilarious to me. It was a throttling.
It was a beat down. Maybe the Saints are the
better team overall. But if so, what does that mean. Well,
if the Saints are the best team in the NFC
or right at it, then what does that make Tampa
Bay fourth in the NFC, third in the NFC. I
don't know. At least they don't play in the NFC East.

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We'll be right back. Good Sunday to you, Jason Martin
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(01:20:57):
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(01:21:19):
of the show. Beginning next segment, we'll start breaking down
all the games that you will expect to see a
little bit later on today. We'll predict them all. We
do it every single week. But I have been thinking
and continue to think about the quarterback position in the

(01:21:40):
NFL and about certain guys that have been around for
a while, and whether it's a they are who we
think they are, or maybe it's the situation that causes
a lot of the issues here. And there are some
guys that you can look at and you're just Okay, well,

(01:22:00):
that's just who that dude is. And then there are
others where you at least have what if questions now
listen to a podcast a week week and a half ago,
a podcast that I really like, the Athletics NFL podcast
Official NFL Podcasts, where they were describing one guy in
particular who's been in a league for a good while now.

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He's been in a league for eleven seasons. He started
a hundred and fifty seven games. It's quarterback record is
seventy two eighty four and one sixty two and a
half percent completion percentage for his career, forty three thousand
plus yards thrown for, two hundred seventy touchdowns to one

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hundred forty one interceptions. Yardage totals. I'll skip the first
two years two thousand, eleven, five thousand, thirty eight yards,
two thousand, twelve forty hundred sixty seven yard It's two thousand,
thirteen hundred fifty yards, hundred fifty seven yards, hundred sixty

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two yards unredwy seven yards, twenty seventeen forty four hundred
forty six yards eighteen even in a six and ten season,
thirty seven hundred seventy seven yards. Last year, Hurt only
played half the season, two nine nine yards in eight games,
and this year so far through eight games, d twenty

(01:23:35):
seven yards, so he's thrown for a ton of yards.
But already told you he was twelve games under five
hundred with a tie. I'm talking about Matthew Stafford, who,
of course has played his entire career with the Detroit Lions.
And this is where you get to, Okay, how much
talent does Matthew Stafford have and what would have happened

(01:23:59):
had he been so where else for his career? And
that's what this podcast was discussing. They were suggesting, in
effect that if you put him in another uniform, he
might have multiple Super Bowls, because they are all these
reports and if you've ever just kind of watched a

(01:24:21):
warm up session of Matthew Stafford, there are people in
this league that will tell you that they're just blown
away with his arm, talent and with the stuff that
he's doing. He's like watching Steph Curry warm up for
the Warriors, where you're just like, good lord. But then
he goes out and he plays for the Detroit Lions,
and they've had coaching changes and coordinator changes and just

(01:24:47):
a whole lot of everything's been in flux there more
often than not outside of him, and for a long time,
I guess, Calvin Johnson, they spent picks on running backs,
but they've never done anything to their own line. That's
another stat I want to get to in a second.
But how good can Matthew Stafford be if he was
Sean mcveigh's quarterback instead of Jared Goff? That was one

(01:25:10):
of the scenarios that they mentioned. How much better would
he be than Kirk Cousins, maybe in Minnesota, maybe if
he was in Atlanta instead of Matt Ryan. Even though
you might like Matt Ryan, what could Stafford do? There
are a lot of places where you look at a
quarterback that you kind of like, or you like the

(01:25:30):
talent around that quarterback, it's just like, well, what could
they do? And how much of what you see from
Stafford before games and all this stuff, and what you
see oftentimes when he's playing is harmed because he's a
Lion And that's really hard to quantify. So I guess

(01:25:51):
now we bring in perfect, We bring in Christ Perfet,
who knows the Lions way better than I do. And
I know you've seen pretty much every down Matthew Staffords
played in his career eleven years in it's a tough
place to say now like, I definitely could see him
ending up somewhere else now, maybe on a contender maybe,
or maybe he's just another Philip Rivers at this point

(01:26:12):
where he's probably not gonna win a championship wherever he goes,
because whatever skills he's got probably not what he had
in uh somewhere in that neighborhood or maybe even the
year they were eleven and five. But still very very
capable player. But the Matthew Stafford conundrum watching his entire career,

(01:26:35):
how do you feel like Lions fans feel about Stafford.
It's funny because I think at the start of the
year most and I remember going on a couple of
shows and saying, I thought he could he be at
least a Comeback Player of the Year candidate, maybe even
m VP, just because of his numbers. Where he was
on pace in before he was injured, was uh really good?

(01:26:57):
Like care you're defining, he was on a trajectory there,
and we had seen what he did in leading a
lot of those games coming from behind. He his statistics
for all time as far as come fourth quarter comebacks
in games is incredibly high, and I'm sure detractors will
say that's well that's because the offense kind of got
them in a hole to begin with. But as you say,

(01:27:19):
he's he's not really had a lot of support around
him at times. They they've tried investing in the offensive line,
the right side of that line is never working, and
Mat Patricia's staff, for whatever reason, they continue to rotate
b Lineman on him. Running backs have never really been there.
He's had Calvin Johnson the past, but he's spent a
lot of time without him. He's had Kenny Golladay, but

(01:27:40):
now Kenny Golladay's hurt. It. I there's a lot of
arguments to be made on whether he's a Tier one
or a Tier two. If if he is Tier one,
I would say he's borderline. But I think this season
there's been a lot of mental errors from him, So
it does make me hedge my bets a bit. And
I think most Lie and his fans would say though,

(01:28:01):
that this is one of the best quarterbacks in the league.
I'm not not like one of the god defining ones
out there, but just the next step down. He's absolutely
someone who at his best could probably be something like
a Drew Brees that you surround him with the right
talent around him, and he will just and you give
him a system that works him, and he will absolutely,

(01:28:23):
you know, show you his strength if you let him
play to his strengths. The problem is that for all
these offensive coordinators he's had, it's just it's it's been
you know, Joe Lombardi, Daryl Bevil, They've they've kind of
like not really played to his strengths. So a lot
of these years have just kind of gone by where
it's just you're you're seeing a guy who's just frustrated

(01:28:46):
working against these systems. And I think, you know, I
know where you're going with this too, because I think
it's always back to you know, there there's a lot
of other quarterbacks in this league that just you you
just look at a guy and you're just you you
think what could have been? Yeah, well, I mean even
to some extent, there was that narrative out there about
Aaron Rodgers for the longest time. It's like Mike McCarthy

(01:29:07):
has wrecked his career that if Mike McCarthy wasn't the coach,
Aaron Rodgers should have three or four Super Bowls. And
you can part that however you want, whether or not
you believe that or not. But the example now that's
probably closest to Stafford is Deshaun Watson. Because the Texans
are not good this year. It's not really Watson's fault,
but he's still gonna take a Lions share of that blame.

(01:29:29):
But that's been a really badly run organization. The Lions
have been a badly run organization. There was a coaching
problem that they have tried to fix in Houston. Uh,
there's a coaching problem in Detroit that you have to
assume sooner rather than later they're going to deal with.
And then when you look at this other stat that
I have not mentioned yet, then you see another similarity

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between Stafford and Shaun Watson, and that is in twenty fourteen,
Matthew Stafford was sacked forty five times in It was
forty four, it was thirty seven, it was forty seven,
it was forty So just right there in that five

(01:30:14):
years of his eleven year career. I'm not gonna do
the math perfectly here, but somewhere over two hundred sacks
in that five year period. Now, some of that might
be on him. He's not the fastest guy. We're not
gonna mistake him for Lamar Jackson anytime soon. But they

(01:30:36):
had a putrid offensive line, and although they did try
to address it every once in a while, it was
not consistent. And one real easy way to spot a
bad football team is find me a team that has
a really crappy offensive line, and I'll find you a
four win football team. And there have been some four

(01:30:56):
win seasons in Matthew Stafford's career. One was two thousand
and in twelve. But there was a season in which
Deshaun Watson was sacked. I believe it was seventy three times.
I'm letting that linger and not talking over it, kind
of like a great moment at the end of a

(01:31:18):
sporting event where the announcer just backs off and lets
it speak for itself. Seventy three times Deshaun Watsons getting
absolutely brutalized. The Texans have made bad personnel moves. They
got rid of a receiver that you just can't get
rid of because they don't grow on trees. Look at
the difference in that offense without DeAndre Hopkins. They gave

(01:31:40):
O'Brien all sorts of power and then jettisoned him instead
of not giving him the power in jettison, jettisoning him
before this season. There's not a lot of weaponry there,
and there's even less draft capital because the move to
bring in Laramie Tunsil, which yes, I get it, you
needed him, but you gave up a farm for him.

(01:32:01):
You give up multiple draft picks, including one that's that
could easily be a top five draft pick this year.
You handed that to Miami, who already has their quarterback
into Outonga Valoa and now they can go get somebody
that's gonna make them better real fast. Houston is the
worst run organization I think right now, maybe in all

(01:32:25):
of American sports. Now. You can talk to me about
the Knicks, and I'll entertain some of your other theories here,
but the O'Brien mess, even some of the personnel moves
that they have made outside of that, paying Watson is
the only thing they've done right. Larmy tuns It wasn't

(01:32:45):
a bad move, but what they call what it cost
them to get it done. You might have an argument
as to I don't know if that was worth it,
but getting rid of Hopkins is one of the worst
moves imaginable, not just this year but recent memory, especially
what they got back out of that. They're just badly run.

(01:33:08):
So if you want to point to Stafford, well, the
Lions are the Lions. There's some futility there, there's some constant,
there's some sisiphus going on. You're rolling that boulder up
the hill, but you're never gonna get to the top.
It's gonna roll all the way back down to the bottom. Again.
The Texans are starting to feel that way, but they've
got their franchise quarterback. I don't care what anybody says.

(01:33:30):
I think Deshaun Watson's elite. Is he Patrick Mahomes. No,
But we haven't seen him with anywhere near the team
around him that Mahomes has either. And that's true with
some of the other guys that you might place above
him too. Watching guys watching quarterbacks careers be squandered, it

(01:33:51):
really does maybe wonder. I don't know what Matthew Stafford
would have done with the Rams, for example, Maybe we
still get that opportunity. I don't know, but I feel
like if you have handed him to a Sean McVeigh,
the sky could have possibly been the limit. Because Stafford
is the kind of guy that I think his record
is actually better then the circumstances that he's been in.

(01:34:12):
I mean, four and one isn't necessarily a blow away,
but it feels to me like seventy two wins considering
everything that's going on, He's he hasn't been responsible for
as many of those losses. Let's just say that there
are quarterbacks where everything has to be perfect or they
can do absolutely nothing good for you. I don't think
Matthew Stafford's in that category. I don't necessarily think he's

(01:34:34):
gonna win you games on his own, although I think
he's probably done that to some degree at times. He's
probably in that middle range. He's probably you know, around
the eighth to tenth best quarterback in the league right now,
but as he's gonna have a losing record unless he
gets out of Detroit and is able to play for
a few more seasons, and that does suck. I mean,

(01:34:55):
he's three and five right now this season, over two
thousand yards passing, which is near the high again, and
you know, four teen touchdowns, seven interceptions. He has thrown
a lot of picks, probably because he's trying to make
plays because his team is far behind late in games.
That's another thing. You can have garbage yards. You can

(01:35:15):
also have garbage turnovers. When we come back, hopefully we're
gonna not be garbage in our predictions. We will look
at week ten, we'll find out how we did in
week nine, and we'll see if Finlan can duplicate his
monumental performance from two weeks ago, or if his audio
about how this is gonna be a trend is going
to come back to haunt him in the future. It's
a lot of fun when we do this. We'll do

(01:35:36):
it next. Jason Martin Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Eric Roberts, Chris Perfett, and Brian Fenley. They're out in
Los Angeles. I'm here in Nashville, Tennessee. We all come
together in the third hour and we break down every

(01:36:19):
game in the NFL slate. But before we get to
this week, Shenanigans, how do we do last week? Chris Well? Uh,
So we had Kevin figures in for Brian Fenley last week.
Good news is that Kevin delivered a winning record for
Brian Fendley not as impressive as weeks passed. But for
Eric Roberts and Brian Fenley by way of k fig

(01:36:39):
they are both nine and four. J Mart, you are
the winner of last week at ten and three, so
you have record. Unfortunately for me, this is now the
second week in a row I've posting a losing record
and probably my worst of the year at five and eight.
Whoa five and eight? Five and eight. Uh. I had

(01:37:00):
Indianapolis that did not work out for me. I at
Chicago that did not work out for me. I had
Washington did not work out. I had Denver. I don't
know why I picked Denver. I'm I keep looking back
and I need to go back through the tape and
trying to figure out why I picked Denver. And then
I picked the Jets, And unlike Findley, I did not
say to Mark the tape and right up until I

(01:37:21):
would say, last five minutes that game. I was feeling
really good about that pick, and then Adam Gaze and
Joe Flacco decided to throw deep into double coverage when
all they have to do is really just put the
game away and the rest of history there. You sound
a little salty about that, I really am, but I'm
not sure what was going through their head. All right,

(01:37:42):
five and eight, Well, we'll see when we can get
you back on the winning trailing figures. Not exactly, Molly
whopping uh, Finley statistics from two weeks ago, and Finley's
talking a lot of smacks. So we'll see whether you
can bring it all. Right. Here we go, Weight ten.
We begin at Cleveland the Texans. So we just discussed

(01:38:03):
in the first segment to John Watson a wasted year
in his career this year with everything going wrong for
the Texans. Texans at Browns, I don't know this. I
could honestly see going either way. I don't love either team,
but I do think the Browns could still make the playoffs. Um,
I mean maybe they should. As a matter of fact,

(01:38:25):
I think the Browns are just the better team. I
see no reason why they would lose. I just look
at whenever you see Cleveland. It's just hard to buy
in because you see Cleveland and you think of the Browns,
and but I'll take the Browns. I do think they
are a much more cohesive team at this point than
the Texans are. We gotta get over that label on
the Browns. Right now. They are five and three. There
are losses are too, like the Steelers the Ravens. They

(01:38:47):
have the weird loss against the Raiders, but that that's
gonna happen sometimes in the NFL. And the Raiders aren't bad. No,
they're not bad either. The Browns are a good team
right now. They're a very good team. I don't know
who you all ascribe that to you right now, but
they're obviously far better than the than the Houston Texans.
I've got Cleveland. Yeah, they got a whole bunch more
to play for if you got that extra playoff spot.

(01:39:08):
And now with this year, with the funky rules, um,
they're gonna be in the thick of it with the
six and three record after that tomorrow or today. Actually,
the thing about the Browns, guys, is when they have
something to play for, that is when they puke. But
I still think that the Browns are gonna win. Nick
Chubb is coming back to help bolster the running game.
That will be huge. And by the way, guys, their

(01:39:29):
opponent just beat the Jags twenty seven to five. So
how about those Houston Texans. I got Cleveland alright, So
Cleveland across the board. That frightens me. Washington at Detroit,
I'll take your Lions, Chris. I'm not even gonna think
it's through too much. I know Washington has a bit
of a defense, but this is a game the Lions
should win. Quite frankly, I know Alex Smith played fairly

(01:39:51):
well when he came in last week. I just I
tend to feel pretty good about Detroit this week. How
many weeks have we done this? Hey, this is a
game the Lions should win. And don't win that game.
Let me give you a stat here. So Washington, they've
lost the Giants last week. However, they turned the ball
over five times and they outgained the Giants in yards.

(01:40:13):
Usually when you have a turnover filled day with that
like that, that doesn't always repeat the next week. And
for Detroit, there's a lot of mental errors coming out
of Matt Stafford now there. Without Kenny Golladay, Hockinson has
hobbled a little bit. They've got a defense and that'll
get home to Stafford. I I hate to be doom
and gloom, but I'm gonna take uh the football team here, well,

(01:40:37):
I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the Lions. I just
want to say I'm not the one that's nervous whenever
I see Alex Smith's name pop up on Twitter on
a Sunday. Right we got on the field last week,
and I was just I just didn't want to see
another update about him. If I'm gonna take, I'm gonna
take the Lions. Guys. You know what I've noticed, I
go with the exact opposite of Chris Perfette, and I
usually win that game. So I'm going with the Lions. Yikes,

(01:41:01):
how about just Washington football team quarterback updates? You don't
want to see him period, Like not Alex Smith. Now
that Kyle al forgot why why Alex Smith was playing
last week? I forgot about that. Yeah, that that wasn't
good either, Just just to just to point that out.
Jacksonville at Green Bay Packers will win this football game.
Although when I first looked at this, I'm like, this
is the kind of game for some reason. Green Bay

(01:41:22):
loses for no reason, but I don't think it will happen.
I think Davante Adams is gonna eat in this game,
and I feel like they'll win easily. No, we were
gonna save the random, inexplicable Packers losses for other opponents
coming up, probably like the Panthers of the Colts, maybe
even the Eagles. But against Jacksonville Jacksonville, No, I I
give me green Bay. Yeah, Rogers, green Bay, Yeah, I

(01:41:46):
got Rogers. How can you not take green Bay in
this scenario? Although I would love to see Jacksonville be
someone to be reckoned with, that might not happen in
my lifetime. I like that you said, oh, how how
could you know? How could you take Axonville? You took
the Jets? You know what? That was such a close game,
it was, and so by virtue of them only losing

(01:42:09):
by a single possession, I deserve to get, like, yes,
flogged is what you will get. Philadelphia at New York Barnburner. Here,
Eagles at Giants. Look, Giants play hard. I don't buy
into Carson Wentz. I don't like either one of these teams.

(01:42:30):
I hate this division. I feel like the Eagles are
probably a little bit better than the Giants. I'm just
eyeball in this. I don't have any reason really to
pick it, but I'll just say the Eagles will beat
the Giants. It's funny enough. I can't I looked. I
was just looking at the time here, and I was
expecting this to be a primetime game because for whatever reason,

(01:42:50):
and if the NFC East still gets ratings, regardless of
how bad these teams are, I'm gonna take I'm gonna
take the Giants here. Golden Tate is back. I don't
even know why they were feuding with him to begin with,
but that's a weapon in the hand of Daniel Jones,
who needs weapons, who probably needs help. And I don't
trust Philadelphia in the spot. So I've got the Giants. Yeah,

(01:43:12):
I don't trust Carson Wentz or Philly anymore. They're all
banged up. Carson Wentz, I mean, I'm not even sure
if he knows who he's throwing the ball to anymore.
I'm gonna take Danny Danny Dimes and the Giants. You'd
rather have Jeff Garcia and a quarterback for the Eagles
than that guy, Carson Wentz. I'm going with whoever is
playing the Eagles, al right, Tampa Bay at Carolina, No McCaffrey.

(01:43:35):
Carolina has played pretty well. I feel like Joe Brady
has done a good job with Teddy Bridgewater. Still not
a ton of weapons, but they play super hard. Bridgewater's
fourth down conversion last week still my favorite play of
the entire NFL season, and it came in a loss.
Tampa Bay probably mad after what happened last week. I
don't see a hangover here. I just think Tampa Bay's

(01:43:57):
got too much talent for Carolina, and talent's gonna win
in the game. No we I mean, we've done these
stats for how long about Tom Brady and bounce back games. Now,
grant a lot of that was the New England Patriots,
but I think some of those New England Patriot teams
were are a lot worse than what Tampa Bay is.
You're not gonna get a repeat of that kind of performance.

(01:44:19):
Take Tampa Bay. Yeah, another week. Get Antonio Brown a
little more accustomed to what's going on in the offense.
I feel like there was just a little a little
too much of everything going on last week against the
Saints when they were playing Antonio Brown's new But yeah,
I think Antonio Brown figures it out. The Buccaneers over
the Panthers. You know what, guys, I'm gonna do a
one e d here. I did not like anything I

(01:44:43):
saw from the Buccaneers. I'm going, yeah, Carolina, Baby, I
knew you're gonna take Carolina. You always talk about how
much you like Matt Rule, Like, this is not a
surprise to me in the least that you picked Carolina.
You've You've picked Caroline in a couple of spots that
I thought were bit baffling, So all right that I'd
like to see the differentiation as well. Denver at Las Vegas,

(01:45:06):
I want to take my broncos. I feel like this
is gonna be a close, annoying game. But I just
think the Raiders are the better team right now, the
healthier team right now. I like what Jacobs offers that
offense and the pressure it takes off of Derek Carr.
I just think the Raiders are the better team, so
they'll win. Yeah, I'm gonna take the Raiders here. I mean,
if you're if you're playing this on a Vegas spread,

(01:45:28):
probably take Denver in the points. Expect close one. But
I I just like the Raiders to pull it out. Yeah,
I'm gonna take the Raiders to you, guys. I got
the Broncos. They beat the Chargers, then they lost to
the Falcons by just a touchdown, So they've been playing
close in ballgames. If it finishes close, I've got the
Broncos with the advantage. Well, I wouldn't mind seeing them

(01:45:50):
win obviously. Chargers at Dolphins cool, justin her reverses to
Aatano by Loa in the afternoon window. Yeah, you can
sign me up for that. That's a nice little matchup
right there. I'm enjoying watching both of them. Uh, could
be a decent amount of points scored in this game.
I don't imagine it will be quite the shootout Miami
and Arizona was last week the thirty one game. Man.

(01:46:14):
I don't know. The Chargers just continue to find really
strange ways to lose. But I don't know that that's
a bad problem because it's gonna give you a better
draft pick in the end. And you're fighting hard and
Herbert is playing out of his mind. That defense has
not been as advertised, and they're banged up as well.
Miami's riding a little bit high right now, and they're
in the thick of it a bit in their division.

(01:46:36):
I actually am gonna take Miami. I don't like the
west to east move for the Chargers this week. I
think Miami will get them at home. Yeah, West East,
And I think the most important part is that the
Charges are just really banged up right now. I I
like Justin Herbert, but it's not really coming together right
there at the stretch. Usually when Miami's hot, that's about
the time to fade them. But I'm gonna stick at

(01:46:58):
ride the Dolphins here for this week's Miami's defense has
played a little has played some good some good ball here.
The last couple of weeks. They gave Kyler Murray a trouble?
Was it two weeks ago? Last week in March? I
forget what we create last week. But yes, I think,
I think, yeah, the traveling is gonna hit the rookie
a little hard, a tough defense. On the other side
of things, I'm gonna take the Dolphins over the Chargers.
Justin Herbert, guys, is too good of a player to

(01:47:21):
see some of those losses continue. He's too strong of
a player. They are going to get out of a
rut thanks to him. Chargers Baby, Chargers Baby, or as
Arnold Schwarzenegger would say, Gold Chagos. Wow, I can't even
believe that's the thing that was just done on this
radio station. Across the country, they're actually more games in

(01:47:42):
the afternoon window tomorrow than in the noon window, and
there's some great matchups. I think that Miami Chargers game
is a sneaky good game. This doesn't sneak up on
you at all. Bills at Cardinals, Bills with a huge
win over the Seahawks, Cardinals with the loss to Miami.
Here you have another team similar. There's a similarity there

(01:48:05):
between Seattle and Arizona, not just that they play in
the same division, but that they are an offensive heavy team.
They have a quarterback that can straight up score. They
have weapons. You have the dk Metcals of the world. Well,
here you've got Hopkins, and here you got Fitzgerald. Here
you got Christian Kirk. You have very good offenses and
you have kind of questionable defenses. Cardinals haven't really been

(01:48:27):
at as advertised on that side of the ball that
said this is east to west. If Arizona was coming
to Buffalo, I wouldn't feel nearly as good about this.
I think the Bills are legit, but I think the
Cardinals are gonna win this football game. Car Buffalo came
in a big spot there last week, so I kind
of feel like I have to fade them this week.

(01:48:48):
I don't think they're that consistent right now, So I'm
gonna take the Cardinals. Ah Man, I wonder who I'm
gonna take. Come on, I know it's gonna be. It's
gonna be a tough game. Though. The defense for the
Cardinals in a little healthier. I think they get um
Devon Kanard back and Murphy back. We're both on the
COVID list last week, so it's uh, it's there back
at a good time. We got Stefon Diggs leading the

(01:49:09):
league and receiving and catcher receiving in yards. So I
don't know. I think it's gonna be a lot of
points scored, that's for sure. But I'm gonna take the Bills.
If the Bills played anything like they did against the
Jets a couple of weeks ago, the San Diego Fleet
of the A A F would have beaten Buffalo. I've
got the Cardinals. Kyler Murray is too good right now
and his competitiveness, his winning instincts will prevail. Well. I mean,

(01:49:31):
Josh Allen did go over four hundred yards last week
and played the game of his life against the Seattle Seahawks,
who were playing the Rams. Another good matchup in the afternoon,
Another important matchup, very important to the Rams in particular.
This one's at the Rams, not at Seattle. But of
course with the fans situation, the app doesn't mean quite

(01:49:52):
as much if you're on the same coast. This is
Russell Wilson versus Jared Goff. I love Sean McVeigh, and
Sean McVeigh is probably gonna be able to torture a
bad Seattle defense. But at the same time, I just
I don't imagine russ is gonna lose back to back game.
So I think the Seahawks are gonna go on the
road and win. I like the Rams here. I I

(01:50:13):
think they're legit this year. They have a defense that
is beyond scary. And no, I'll just take the Rams.
I got nothing else to say. I'm gonna taking Seahawks these.
Russell Wilson almost talked to me or played me out
of picking my bills last week, So I'm gonna ride
the Russell Wilson trains till Seahawks Rams. I got the Rams.
I think that they are sneaky good right now, all

(01:50:34):
of a sudden, entering people's conversations. As much as I
love DK Metcalf and certainly loved the college that he
went to, what I saw from the Seahawks against the
Cardinals a couple of weeks ago showed that Seattle is vulnerable,
and I think in a situation on the road in
Los Angeles that is gonna show itself again. Yeah. Well, look,
they are vulnerable. They have an awful defense. That's that's

(01:50:56):
the problem. They have to score forty to win all
these games. They're like the Chiefs of the years ago.
That becomes the issue for them. All right, Bentley, let's
get one more update from you. There's still four games
to go. We'll get to him for the end of
the show. But what's going on. Yeah, let's start with
some injury updates. As far as Week ten of the NFL.
This all according to NFL Network, Dolphins running back Matt

(01:51:16):
Brita questionable because of a hamstring injury, which might push
him back another week before returning. Giants wide receiver Golden
Tate is on path deploying after he hurt his knee
last week. Chargers will have offensive lineman Brian Bulaga and
Trade Turner back after they overcame injuries. Lions tight end

(01:51:37):
t J. Hockenson playing through an injured toe, and Cardinals
running back Kenyan Drake is gonna tough it out after
a high ankle. Spring to college football. Thirteenth ranked Wisconsin
bludgeoning the Michigan Wolverines forty nine to eleven. Jim Harbaugh
said glumily after the game, quote, we really didn't do
anything well, did not play good, did not coach good.

(01:52:00):
Close quote. Sixth ranked Florida wolfing down Arkansas five Kyle
Trask through six touchdowns as he heard the home crowd
cheering him on as Trask for Heisman chance reigning through
the swamp. Number two Notre Dame Wades pass Boston College
forty one Ian book with four scores. Number eleven Oregon

(01:52:22):
mopping up Washington State for nine. The Ducks overcame a
twelve point deficit in the first half, and Dustin Johnson
takes the four shot lead going into today's final round
at the Masters. He's at sixteen under after a Saturday
sixty five Tiger Woods is eleven shots back, five under overall.

(01:52:45):
Back to Jason Martin. Oh, it is the Master's but
it sure feels like DJ is just gonna coast to
this thing and it's not gonna have the drama. But
maybe he'll come back a little bit of somebody will
go super low and make it interesting on Sunday. It's
just odd that it's gonna be. It's the reason why
CBS doesn't have a game in the in the noon
window because there's a golf tournament and it's the Masters

(01:53:08):
on CBS. Usually the only thing that they pre empt
football for during the season as US Open tennis tournament
that's in the afternoon window. So just another crazy piece
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eight hundred nine four seven Auto. The only hard part
figuring out which way is easier. All right, we got
four more games to get to. We can do Niners
at Saints here right now, and then we'll do the
other three on the other side. I don't know that
this one's going to require much. Uh. San Francisco's banged up.

(01:53:50):
Most of their good players aren't out there right now.
Most s it's on I are. I think Kittle is out.
Garoppolo might be done period. Uh in San Francisco and
the Saints are ride and high. Now. Maybe this is
not gonna be the same level of performance maybe that
they put on last week. But Saints are gonna win
this game handily. I would say, I, you know, I

(01:54:11):
I do some Vegas picks on the side with my
friends too, and I think I have San Francisco and
the points, but I'm definitely not taking them straight up.
New Orleans was gonna win here, but it's gonna not
gonna look as pretty as Tampa Bay. Reminding everyone once
again that the NFL is a week to week league. Yeah,
I'm gonna go Drew Brees and the Saints too at home. Guys,

(01:54:32):
Saints big time. At this point, the forty Niners are
just like an XFL team with whoever is playing, it's
just hey, can you throw the football? Can you run?
Can you block? All right, you're on the team. So
Finley has now invoked both the A a F and
the XFL as descriptors for multiple NFL teams. During this segment,

(01:54:55):
the man holds back nothing, does he He does not
pull any points next the Spring League exactly. There you go.
I'm trying to figure out where we're headed next. Quite frankly,
like once you start the XFL, we're about to get
to Rock and Jock on MTV with Dan Cortez territory.
There's got three more games to go. We'll get to

(01:55:16):
those after the after the break, plus the injury updates
and uh Ben Roethlisberger. He'll be part of that discussion
because he's gonna play, because of course he was gonna play.
That was never in doubt. We'll finish up the program
next Jason Martin Show, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back Fox

(01:55:36):
Sports Radio Studios, brought to you by Geico. About to
finish up another one here on the Jason Martin Show.
We've had fun for the last three hours. So if
you've enjoyed it, I hope you've been with us for
the whole ride. If you missed any part of it,
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(01:55:57):
and Sunday, Fox Football Sunday coming up next, Andy Firm
and Brian No sure they will be burying Jim Harbaugh
as well. That's pretty much where I let off, because
of course that's where I let off their one in three.
Then we got to James Franklin the oh and four
yikes for Michigan and Penn State right now, but we

(01:56:19):
got four more, no three more NFL games to get to.
Pittsburgh is hosting Cincinnati or narrowly. This would be just
kind of a quick pick, right, But this is actually
intrigue here, Like I'm excited to watch this. Roethlisberger is
gonna play. He's off the COVID list. He didn't have COVID.
He was just a close contact because he's very good

(01:56:40):
friends with Vance McDonald. But there was never any fear
that he was gonna miss the game. He didn't test
positive at any point in time. So he's gonna play.
Pittsburgh struggled for the second straight first half last week.
And here's what you've seen with the Steelers. When Roethlisberger
starts walking up seeing things and changing it at the
and in the second half, all of a sudden Pittsburgh

(01:57:02):
looks a lot better. That's a bit of an indictment
on Fickner, the offensive coordinator for the Steelers. So are
we gonna see that again or are they just gonna
let Ben Roethlisberger have it earlier today? But why this
is interesting is because it's Burrow, Joe Burrow against a
first ballot Hall of Famer on the other side, but

(01:57:23):
just getting to watch this young guy again against that
level of defense with a horrible offensive line. I fear
for Joe Burrow against t J. Watt and Bud dupri
and Cam Heyward in that crew, but I want to
see it all the same because I want to see
how Burrow negotiates a top flight defense. All that said,

(01:57:43):
I think the Steelers are gonna win this game. I
don't think it will be a blowout. However, the NFL
is a week tweekly. I just said that last last segment,
and we are at the point where the Steelers are
now eight no. And note it's very hard to go
to run the table in the NFL the schedule, doesn't

(01:58:06):
I mean, maybe they drop one against the Ravens later
the Bengals as a divisional rival and and a legit
divisional rival where these teams legitimately hate each other. It's
not like a lot of other rivalries which are just
now the Fans Pittsburgh and and Bald and um, Cincinnati
still have coaches and players who genuinely despise each other.

(01:58:27):
And yet I look at how bad that offensive line
is for Cincinnati and how good the Steelers defense is.
And as much as I want to pick against the
Steelers in this spot, I'm gonna keep it just They're
they're too good right now, I'm still taking the Steelers.
I'm gonna go with the Bengals. Guys, I'm gonna go
with Borrow finds a way to walk out of that
place with his head still attached to his shoulders. And um,

(01:58:49):
it's more of a Steelers are got through a kind
of a heavy part of their schedule. They have already
done their bye week because of the COVID stuff with
the Titans that one week. The Bengals have had a
week and a half plus two prepare they had the
guy last week. I'm gonna go the young and energized
Joe Burrow against the Steelers. I am aligning with what
Eric Roberts says. Aaron Torres are, Yeah, I know. I'm sorry.

(01:59:13):
I jinks to you by me being on your side.
But Aaron Torres, our Fox Sports colleague also thought that
the Bengals will win this game. I like it as well.
By the way, Jason eu Freudian slipped, it was actually
four games because the big game that we're not mentioning
that we should. I've got u c l A over
Cal later this morning. Uh well, you and five other

(01:59:37):
people are gonna be interested in watching that game. That's
the most of all time, is that that game is
gonna be playing in front of no fans while NFL
games are going on. Just amazing Baltimore at New England.
That's your prime time matchup, folks, all of those great
three five games. But you're getting Ravens, Patriots, the Patriots

(01:59:58):
whatever is left of that football to team out there. Look,
there's a lot you can say about Baltimore not being
what they were maybe a season ago. Offensively, the play
calling hasn't been nearly as good, I don't think, and
Lamar hasn't had it hasn't done well at times. I
don't think the Patriots have anything for them. However, I
think Baltimore may blow them out. Yeah, Baltimore here got

(02:00:20):
nothing else. Baltimore ravens Baby. Minnesota at Chicago is your
Monday night game? All right, NFC North, Chris, you go first.
I hate myself for doing this. Doub Bears. Wow, really,
I just I think they're a better team right now.
Minnesota has some luck on their side, but this is

(02:00:40):
Kirk Cousins in prime time. That's poison. I'm taking the Bears.
I saw Nick Foles live a few weeks ago against
the Titans. That dude should not be on an NFL
football field and a starting quarterbacks role. I think their
offense is terrible. Matten Naggie has given up play calling duties,
at least for the time being. I'll take the Vikings
and Dalvin Cook being able to run against that defense somehow. Vikings,

(02:01:04):
they were my Super Bowl pick. I got them winning.
There you go. How about this. I'm getting the countdown.
We'll talk to you next week. Enjoy Fox, Enjoy the
football today.

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