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We are only twelve days from the NFL drafts and
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It's designed to please even the most discriminating sports fan,
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welcome back to another award winning edition of Straight Out
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I'm Bernie Frattower Comedy Alive from the Las Vegas Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Tonight, I will analyze just why it
is so hard to evaluate the quarterback position as it
pertains to the NFL draft. You know, first round draft
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choices are out of the league within four years, and
by the way, quarterbacks drafted in the last twenty years
cumulatively their winning percentages very celebrate. We're going to discuss
uh in about fifteen minutes. We're gonna be joined by
Larry Sorenson, former tenure Major leaguer in twenty five year broadcaster.
We're gonna talk about all the new fangled rule changes
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and whether or not they'll survive after this season. And
I'm gonna bring up a source subject. Yes, the cb
A expiders this year and the union and the owners.
They're far apart. No one's talking about it. It's the
elephant in the room that no one's addressing. But we
will then Larry's very straightforward, very honest, has always had
his finger on the pulse. Later on, after Brewin Finley's update, Well,
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we're going to talk about this whole Justin Fields Matt
Jones saga from the betting market standpoint. I'm going to
analyze through through the prism of what's best for the
forty niners and give this some perspective and and maybe
even try to get inside Kyle Shanahan's bringing a little bit.
But we're gonna share some things I don't think you're
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hearing on a lot of other shows. Of course, we
closed down the show tonight with Mac and on. Sports
has always plenty of data to stretch your mind like
a pretzel. That'll be coming up after Bruin Finley's update.
Sports are entertainment, but they're more than that. There are
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You've come to the right place. We've got a lot
to talk about tonight. This is straight out of Vegas,
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Special guests in studio tonight Spencer Astrofsky. He's the co
host of Bottle Line with Brian Finley right here in
Las Vegas on Sunday mornings. All right, you know it's
not gonna be long until well soon Trevor Lawrence and
Zack Wilson and Matt Jones and Justin Fields and Trey
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Lance will just to dame a few. They'll be on
their way to their new NFL homes, and they'll be
taking with them the hopes and dreams as well as
the best laid plans of ranchises who pay their scouting
and personnel directors to predict the future and project who
might become their eventual savior. But as we know all
too often, the NFL draft it's not an exact science,
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and it's not an exact art. In fact, in the
last fifty years, a total of forty four quarterbacks were
drafted either in the number one, number two, or number
three slot overall, yet only two of them actually went
on to win a Super Bowl with the team who
originally drafted them. One of, if not the most vital
positions in all of sports is quarterback, but finding the
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right one has proven to be very difficult. A year
after year top picks where they failed to pan out,
team scotting departments carry contrasting opinions on their quarterback rankings,
and very few have really had great success once are drafted.
In fact, in the past twenty years, top five draft
picks at quarterback have only one Super Bowl. So what
exactly is it that makes the process of drafting the
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quarterbacks so difficult. Well, there's a handful of factors that
go into it, but what is become so overlooked nowadays
is that the quarterback surrounding cast in college can matter
when it comes to the evaluation and projecting in the future. Obviously,
a full quarterback of valuation has a lot to do
with their talent and statistics over their college career, but
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many analysts and some teams ignore many other elements, such
as the offense they ran in college, the coaching staff,
the amount of NFL talent they were surrounded with when
making these evaluations. For tonight, let's just use the draft
which is already in the books, and to make my case,
take Jordan's love for example, Well, his production. Last year
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fell off a cliff just twenty touchdowns in seventeen interceptions
compared to when he had thirty t s and six
interceptions the year before. Now many people merely glanced at
his stats in his film and conclude he's not as
talented as the other quarterback prospects. What the hell is
Green Bay doing? But these evaluators failed to recognize the
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effect of a whole new coaching staff and a whole
new offensive system which is implemented after the former head
coach Matt Wells left for Texas Tech. After This is
in addition to Love losing his only other NFL caliber
teammate and Darwin Williams to the Chiefs that you know,
contributed to a not great senior campaign. Similarly, some college
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offenses are simply put not ideal schematically to best display
a quarterback's abilities. Last year or his senior year, the
University of Oregons Justin Herbert did not receive as much
hype as the other quarterbacks, partially because he didn't he
was in an offense that didn't ask him to do
a lot. He couldn't make a lot happen based on
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the plays they were calling. Now, Chris Simms, who was
an NFL analyst. He highlights the facts saying quote, he
came right out and said he thought that Justin Herbert
played in a horrible offensive Oregon, taught by an offensive
line coach. And that follows up with a comparison to
other quarterback prospects that you know, like Joe Burrow and
to a tag of Aloha, who both had offensive quarterinagers
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with NFL experience in schemes. Now, when you evaluated those quarterbacks,
you can't solely assess them just on the offense they've played.
You have to project again how their traits will project
to the next level. Although Herbert may have had lesser
stats have been drafted lower than Talk of the Law,
Herbert's elite arm and size, as well as the ceiling
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He's why I think pretty clearly he was a lot
more successful than talk of Alwa last year. Now, the
talent level of prospects and their supporting casts is another
factor that must go into a complete evaluation. The year before,
two of the top QB prospects again Burrow and Talk
of the Law, where they had as many weapons as
you've ever seen in the college offense ever, Burrowing L
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s U. When all is said and done, they will
have had at least three first round skill players in
that offense, while two is twenty nineteen offense was totally
stacked the wide receiver Jerry Judy, Henry Ruggs and obviously
coming this year, Jalen Watton, Davante Smith. They all played
with ta not despite those quarterbacks having such elite talent,
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Burrow well, he did much better than twa. Burrow was
simply more efficient in terms of completion percentage and yards
attempt and he was carving up teams with the pro
style offense that was put together by a Panthers offensive
coordinator Joe Brady. This is why he was at L
s U. Now that's not to say to it might
not have been successful in Joe Brady's offense, but to
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I think faced it a tougher learning curve in the
league because he didn't have the advantage of playing for
an offensive mind like Joe Brady. Now, other stats that
point to to Burrow having future success, which I thought
he was doing very well before he got hurt. He
had incredibly gaudy numbers because they passed a on first
down almost fourteen yards per attempt. That's incredible. That shows
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you're keeping your eyes down fieldly completed Burrow. This is
at L s U completed any three percent of his
passes on first down. For comparison, all other first round quarterbacks,
even if you go back five years and there were
twenty of them in the first round, averaged seven yards
per attempt significantly lower. So it's clear Brady and L.
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S U trusted Burrow on first down, and Burrow absolutely
made the most of it. And while two had great
success at the University of Alabama, I think you could
argue that you could attribute more of it to his
four superstar receivers who could just torch defenses. Two or
of his yards came after the catch, which was the
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highest percentage in college football in by the way, contrast
lay with my guy Mac Jones. Of his yards came
through the year. Now, on the flip side, again, I
want to go back to last year, because these guys
already drafted and they've been and you've seen him in
the NFL. Not all the quarterbacks that you've seen come
into the NFL, and the last year had the luxury
of having NFL talent around them. The year before the
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new York Giants will They shocked the world by selecting
Daniel Jones from Duke sixth. Overall, there were concerns about
the level of competition he faced the Duke, and many
dotted that pick from the get go. And I know
he's still a work in progress, and he played some
solid games. He's clearly displayed he might be able to
be the future for the Giants. Again, one of the
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reasons many were so not we're not so impressed with
Jones when he came out of Duke had a very
pedestrian completion rate and he only had a twenty two
to nine touchdown to interception ratio. Again, wasn't necessarily surrounded
with great talent. Again, that Duke team had no real
NFL stars to help Jones, and he had to make
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the most of the situation he was given. And the
quarterbacks don't have the best talent around them, well, they
often try to do too much and take more risks. Now,
one of the things I didn't like hearing about Daniel
Jones was competition. Not to go for that Boulogne. Okay,
they said the same thing about Jerry Rice coming out
of Mississippi Valley State back in eighty three said the
same thing about Steve McNair coming out of Alcorn State.
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Oh yeah, how about Josh Allen said the same thing
about him. He was another key example now Wyoming. He
had to make more plays with his legs and force
balls in the tighter windows to give his team a
chance to win. And in turn he finished with a
fair amount of picks and not a great completion percentage.
And those are the elements scouts analysts are worrious sometimes
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in grading quarterback prospects. But guess what he got into
a coaching staff in Buffalo that knew how to help
get him to his ceiling. Look, quarterbacks have the lowest
hit rate for a reason. They're very tough to scout.
They're even tougher to project in an NFL offense. However,
if you just go back to fact the past few
years and analyze, the best way to find successful quarterbacks
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requires evaluating their talent, their individual talent, their environment, whether
that be their coaching, their level of competition, or their
players around him, and of course a little luck. Remember
some guy named Tom Brady wasn't drafted until the sixth round.
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That's welcome in a gentleman tenure. Major leaguer twenty five
years in the broadcast booth has this figure in the
pulse of the game as well as anybody I have
ever every no one say hello to Larry Starrington. Larry,
thanks for coming on again tonight, Bernie. Always great to
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talk to you. Here's the thing, Uh, We've got so
much to get to. I've really got to dive into
it because there are a lot of rule changes this year,
and they might be for this year only, and I'll
segue into that. The point is is you're able to
answer these from the through the prism of a player,
if you were still playing today, or just from the
Union in general and baseball in general. I want to
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start with seven inning double hitters. How do you feel
about that? Well, I think the thing that we really
have to look at is why they're doing it. It's
a couple of reasons. Number One, the length of the
day at the ballpark for the people. They want to
try to make it as convenient as possible. Number Two,
what it does to your pitching staff, I think is
one of the largest reasons. And when you start planning
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for what's going to happen not just that day, but
also the next series and the series after that, and
what it does to your pitching staff. I believe that's
why they do it. I can't say that I'm a
big fan of it, but I think that those are
the reasons that they do it, and that's fair Where
I through a flag, Larry Is, I don't know that
it's helping the game. You were a big innings eater.
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If they did this back in seventy you might have
had forty complete games. You just took the ball when
they gave when they offered it to you, anytime you could,
because somebody was looking to take your job. But you know,
I'm not I'm not a big fan of the seven
inning doubleheaders, but I understand the reasoning behind why they're
trying to do it. Fair Enough, all right, let's talk
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about the three batter minimum for pictures or they must
finish the inning. What are your thoughts on that? You know,
I think that there are other ways to quicken the game.
I was watching a game yesterday, and when you see
a reliever standing in the bullpen ready to go, when
the catcher goes out to the mouth, catch your talks
to the picture, catch your walks back behind the plane,
takes as long as he can, gets down in his crouch,
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gets ready to give a sign. Times called, and the
pitching coach of the manager takes his time walking them out.
In the meantime, the guy in the bullpen has warmed up,
ready to go, standing there at the gate waiting for
them to make the change. Now we're talking about three
or four more minutes in the game while they while
they're delaying to give him time to warm up. I
just don't understand why we waste time on things like that.
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So I think there are other ways to do it. Besides,
you know, let's look around, let's take a look at everything.
You know, Larry, I know that the pace of the
game has been an issue for for certain fans, maybe
a lot of fans, for a long time. So I
get that. You know, a player doesn't need to step
in out of the box, You don't need to look
at your third base coach in the first inning if
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no one's on base. Maybe, but I don't know why
I get there are things of this nature. And I
know they have a pitch clock which I've never seen,
and forced you know, by the way advertising and commercial
breaks are a lot longer, so that contributes to the
link to the game. I just again feel that I'm
not sure if this is helping the game here. This
is one that I I gave it a chance, but
I'm not I'm not buying it now. And it's putting
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a man on second base to start the ex trainings
didn't work on the Potter's Dodgers game last night. So
what are your thoughts on that. You know we're gonna
disagree here, Bernie, not that we haven't disagreed in the
past forty years or however long it's been that we've
known each other, but since our kids played together when
they were ten. But I'll tell you what I like it.
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And I've been to some minor league I would at
some minor league games in Cossippi, Florida, uh, when the
Pirates were there and they and they first started with
it a few years back, and it just changes the
complexion of the extra inning game to put you on
the edge of your seat from the get go. And
when you look at the strategies that the result in
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the game is being ended, there's like five different ways
you can go to do it, and in all five
of them, the percentages come out differently. I think it
makes for more excitement. I think it stops a lot
of those fifteen inning games where you're burned through things
and have non pitchers pitching in the games. And it
doesn't bother me as much. And you know, Bernie, I'm
old school, you know that. But this particular rule, man,
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it gets me. Even when I'm watching on TV. It
gets me on the edge of my seat in extra innings. Uh,
I'm talking with Larious. I'm gonna get to that. Everybody.
We're talking to Larry sorens in ten, your major league
or year broadcaster. And I should preface this Larry by saying,
we talked about this last year before they implemented you
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You've mentioned you've seen it in the Eastern League and said,
you know, it's pretty damn exciting. Keep an open mind.
In the first few times I saw to go, you
know what, it is pretty exciting. It's you look at
the game through a different prism. And branch Rickey once
wrote a book and said, if you if you get
a man to second base with nobody out, he's gonna
score of the time. Now they're just gonna give you
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a man on second base. Having observed it a few
times and how everyone in baseball is precious, you know that.
I just don't like that. It's I feel like it's artificials.
While do consent to you that it makes for a
little bit more excitement, I don't like the essence of it.
I don't think it makes the game better if you're
trying to win games and you've got jobs on the
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line and penance on the line. And again if you're
if you're the picture a record that day, you know,
or I guess you did some you came out of
the pen a little bit towards the end of your career.
Do you really want to start with a guy in
second base? Well, I think it's just different. It's just different.
And I think picture of record is another thing that's
gonna go by the wayside before too long, especially, you know,
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as we're expecting pictures to do less and less. I
think there will either change what it takes to get
a win as a starting picture. I don't think it'll
be five innings anymore, or they'll do away with the completely.
But that's a whole another topic. The thing is is
it's it's fair because both teams get the same advantage.
You know, both teams have the opportunity, which is much
better than the football situation where essentially a coin flip
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dictates what happens at the end of a game when
you go into overtime. But I think that I think
that the fact that if you get into a situation
where you don't have somebody that can fund that's coming
to the plate, it takes away that offensive part of
the game and takes away some of the strategy. So
I think there are different strategies based on the personnel
that you have, and if you really delve into it
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like you like to do, I know you like to
do it. You'd like to manage along with the manager.
You know, you have to think about who's doing what
at what time, who my runner is, what kind of
speedy has you know, Candy score from second? Is he
a base to base guy? Uh? Might have been? You know,
There's a lot of different things that go into it.
So yeah, it doesn't bother me. I think that gets
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games over in a in a more rapid time so
that you don't burn through as many pictures, which is
going to screw up your pitching staff the next day
and the next day as well, and so from that standpoint,
it doesn't bother me. Yeah, all right, Well, you know,
I'm learning a little some new things about you here tonight.
But by the way, only uh fourteen percent of games
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go uh into extra innings anyway, but we'll have to
talk about this. So we just spent four minutes for nothing. Well,
but those extraining games could be the difference you can
go into the playoffs and not especially since this year
there's no expanded playoff instead of like there was last year,
five playoff team instead of seven. So here's one I think, Larry,
you might have a little stronger opinion on. In the
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Atlantic League, they're going to six and I'm saying, okay,
so the hitter I get to see the ball a
foot longer. You have a pretty good backfoot slider, Larry,
what's that gonna do to your slidder when you're back
and foot further. You know, there's there's a lot of
debate about it going on right now, and as you
well know, I'm involved in the analytics industry with a
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baseball product, pitch Logic Baseball, and we're debating it internally
what it's gonna do with our numbers and don't think
it's gonna make that much difference in the way we
measure everything. And there's a huge controversy and debate over
whether it's going to help the hitters or not. I
personally think it's a big advantage for the hitters that
they've got that much longer to see the ball. There
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are there are a lot of people that think that
pitchers are going to be able to make the ball
move even more and so it's gonna be harder to hit.
And I think the only way we're gonna find out
is tested, and and that's what the Atlantic League is
going to be doing the second part of the season.
And that's why we're trying to work with the Atlantic
League to get them to use our baseball to see
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what we can do right. And I was always hoping
they would never mess with sixty six inches or side
between the bases a bernie I saw. I saw another
interesting thing. I saw the fact that physically athletes the
pictures pictures average or is about four inches taller than
it was about seventeen years ago, you know, you know,
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just closer to home plate when they released the ball
at the huge velocities that they released the ball, and
that makes a huge difference as well. You know, I'll
keep an open mind, I mean the right so and
whatever the game evolves. Let's talk about your baseball is
very revolutionary. You know. One of my favorite things, Larry,
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to do. You and I used to go and play
a little long toss. I enjoyed that, you know. I
told the guys at the station here a little j
V balls a senior. I don't know if they believe me,
but we used to play a little long toss. So
I thought I had pretty good carry on the ball,
didn't he You did, absolutely did. Here's where I'm going
with that. I'd like to play long toss with your
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new P five balls. Tell about to talk about the
concept in this project you got, Larry, I think it's
really cool. Yeah. Pitch Logic by F five Sports UH
is a baseball that has sensors inside a series of
sensors on a circuit board along with a battery charger
UH and battery inside the baseball. And with with our baseball,
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not only do you get all the different spin metrics
that are available with all the other technologies out there
with Rep Soto, with Hawkeye, with the track man, but
you alls. We also have a feature with long Toss
where you can actually measure indoors. So if you're north
of the Mason Dixon line and you can't play in
the wintertime, or if you're in a rainy place and
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your guys can't get outside, you can throw the ball
into an l beta net and the baseball will actually
tell you what your release angle was, and you throw
the ball ten or fifteen feet and it tells you
how far how far the ball would have carried. It
also gives you the time, the time that the ball
is in the air from the time it released at
your fingertips, because that's what it's measured. As soon as
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Paul leaves your fingertips is when we measure the velocity
and it goes every millisecond. Is feeding information back to
the your telephone via bluetooth, and it tells you how
long the ball was in the air as well. So
you actually can have long toss indoors as well as outdoors,
which is a pretty advantageous thing to do if you
if you have been able to do it in the past. UH,
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as usual, we never have enough time. Larry give them
the website they can go to to find out about
your product. Because you you are an inspiring ball player
and you'd like to play at the next level. I
think there's a tool that can really help people get there. Sure.
Pitch logic dot com is the website. It's available on
Amazon as well. You can use an Android or or
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a iOS device, use your smart device. We've got pitch
Logic pro out, which gives you video captures. You can
hook up your numbers to your video if you want
to send it to recruiting coordinators or to uh put
it on Instagram. There's a share feature, really easy and accessible,
and you can analyze your delivery in real time as
you're throwing the baseball. Always good stuff, Flare. Let's get
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you on later. We didn't get to the CBA stuff.
I think there's gonna be a work stoppage, but it's
a conversation for another day. I'm with you on that.
There's some big fights coming up, Bernie, Yes, sir, all right,
thanks so much. Larry really appreciate it. That is Larry Sorenson,
tenure Major League er, retired nine guys in a row
in the seventy eight All Star Game. Twenty five year broadcaster,
including with the Tigers, and the Baseball Network and all
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that good stuff. Always enjoyed talking baseball with Larry Sorenson.
Coming up, we're gonna talk about this Mac Jones justin
fields situation from the prison of the forty niners and
the betting markets in Vegas and what's happened in the
last forty hours and all that good stuff. But first, well,
let's go to the man. He might have heard he
runs with a dangerous crowd, and he might be laughing
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a bit too loud, but that never hurt no one.
That's going to Bruin Finley with the lace. Oh, thank
you so much, Bernie. Did you get that line off
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including leading scorer DeMar de Rosen skirt by the Sons
one eleven to eighty five. Phoenix bricked their first eight
attempts from the three point line and struggled from deep
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ball game. The Celtics taint Steph curry forty seven point
performance as the Celts in pale the Warriors one nineteen
to one. Fortune. Curry went eleven of nineteen from the
land of three Jason Tatum with forty four points. The
Grizzlies fly swatted the Bucks fifteen. Memphis saw six of
its players reached double digits, and Janizanto the Kumpo had
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twenty eight points. The Lakers pushed away the Jazz one
to one fifteen and overtime. Andre Drummond was a tear
inside with twenty seven points and eight rebounds. Donovan Mitchell
missed out with an ankle injury. Russell Westbrook binging on
a seventh straight triple double as the Wizards dismember the
Pistons one to one hundred. In baseball, Mookie Betts closes
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out the game with a diving catch to end the
Padre scoring chance in the ninth inning to upstage the
Pods to zip Ellis Clayton Kershaw went six innings on
the mound, two hits and eight strikeouts while the Rockies
split a double header with the Mets Colorado winning the
second part seven to two. The Astros maneuver the Mariners
won nothing to dissolve a six game losing streak, and
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the Brewers pinched the Pirates seven and one. Milwaukee's Brett
Anderson's seven frames he worked one run it was unearned,
and three strikeouts. It sounds like a stat line from
Bernie Freddo in his baseball playing days, as we sent
it back to the man who runs Vegas, our man
Big Burn. Those are the duel tones of the silver
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tongue devil, brewin Finley, brewin Finley. That's because the u
c l a. Bruins are his team, right, that is true.
We got some good recruits, Bernie. Coming off that final
four run, I think a national championship knock on wood
might be in the near future. You could be right,
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all right? Speaking of winning, Uh, the forty Niners were
incredibly close not that long ago. Everybody forgets. They had
a ten point lead over the Kansas City Chiefs with
about five minutes to go. And you know what happened next.
The long and the short of it is, I think
they got a fabulous head coach and and Kyle Shanahan.
And one of the hot topics that has been just
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blazing the airwaves the last few days is who will
the forty Niners draft number three overall? Since they made
a concerted effort to move up to number three. Well,
let's be clear, the forty Niners moved up to number
three so they could have a choice. People don't have
to believe that, but they're in the camp seats. So
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I really think they were motivated to because they very
much have their eye on Mac Jones. And I'm going
to explain why in a second. And I gave it
a seventy chance they draft Mac Jones. Could I be wrong?
I sure, but I give it se that they draft
Justin Fields maybe five percent Trey Lance. Again, I've talked
about this. This is an inexact science. It's in an
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exact art. The last fifty draft, forty quarterbacks were taking
either first, second, or third overall. Only two of them,
Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman, actually won a Super Bowl
with their original team. And we all know that Kyle
Shanahan and John Lynch don't want to screw this up
because back in they went into that draft and they said,
oh we were okay, we got Blaine Gabbert, we got
Colin Kaepernick. Uh and so well they went out and
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grabbed C J. Bathroom out of Iowa in the third round.
Nothing against that Iowa, Sam, It's just you know, come on,
they passed up on a couple of guys you might
have heard of, Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. So I
don't think they want to do this again. Now, Somewhere
along the line, this whole narrative just got completely convoluted
when it was first mentioned that you know, the Niners
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might draft mac Jones. So how can you do that?
How can you do the guys build like a doughnut salesman.
He's not athletic. He's this you had you surrounded by
world class talent. Okay, I want to tell you why
Matt Jones is a lot better than people give him
credit for, or the people who don't really know or
they don't know what they're looking at. One of the
things that mac Jones has in his toolbag that is
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coveted by any offensive coordinator and head coach in the NFL.
And I am qualified to say this because I covered
the Lions for ten years. Recognition, that's a buzzword. The
ability to process, anticipation, timing quarterback. It's a position. You
play with your eyes. You receive the ball, you take
snapshots mentally with your eyes, you make your progressions, you
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distribute the ball based on what your quick reads are.
Mac Jones scores very high in these eeries. He's got
a very good arm. His completion rate on long balls
or deep balls which is over twenty yards was justin
fields was also very good. He was at sixty seven percent.
Somebody told me Mac Jones isn't athletic. He ran a
faster forty time than both Patrick Mahomes and Daniel Jones.
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Somebody told me jan Daniel Jones is way more athletic. Really,
his vertical leap was thirty three inches. Daniel Jones or
checked that Mac Jones vertical leap was thirty two inches.
And I don't care about any of that, because Jones
is Matt Jones is calling card is timing. He thrives
within the temple of an offense. No one came close
to mac Jones statistically last year at Alabama on in
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rhythm throws, he had a passing grade thirteen yards per tempt.
He had big numbers. Bottom line recognition, He knows what
he's looking at, He gets the ball where it needs
to go consistently. How about versus the blitz again, another
indicator that recognition is mac Jones strength. Jones let college
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football and every single statistics UH statistical category. Last year
when he was blitzed, he was blitzed a hundred and
twenty four times, and in those blitz drop backs he
threw for five yards eighteen touchdowns eighteen or check that
eighteen yards per attempt, or check eleven yards per attempt
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at eighteen touchdowns. Getting too excited needed cool compress here,
might need to light on with some warmook and soft music,
because I'm tired of people bashing Matt Jones, a guy
who completed seventy eight percent of his passes at Alabama,
something no one has ever done. I get it. At
the end of the day, they might draft Justin Fields. Fine,
but I'm just telling you that it's not that out
of the question that they would be considering Matt Jones,
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and he's far better than people give him credit for. Now,
one of the things that happened in the last forty
hours were the betting markets dramatically moved in a way
that would indicate that it looks like the Niners are
going to draft Justin Fields if you read the tea
leaves based on the betting markets. But let me share
something with you. First of all, I think prior to
the Pro day and people say, well, why would Shannahan
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have a Pro day with uh, Justin Fields? Off? His
mind's made up Look, there's decorum here. They're gonna have
a pro day Monday with Tree Lance. I don't think
he's drafting Tree Lance, but there's decorum. You want great
relationships with these schools. You might need to have conversations
with him. You might need information in future drafts. There's
a right way to do things in a not right way,
and I think Kyle Shanahan does them the right way.
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But the betting markets they have their opinions too, and
professional betters employee strategy called scalping, and scalping is what
you call a short term in and out strategy, and
the goal is to make a smaller profit from a
minor price movement. In order to successfully complete a scalp,
you need to place two opposing bets against each other
to guarantee a profit. Let me give you an example.
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In March, Mac Jones was plus one to be the
number three pick. So if you put up a thousand
dollars that would lock in and fifty profit. If Jones
is drafted number three. The night before Justin Fields had
his pro day, he was his highest to twenty plus
two twenty five. Then the steam came in. But if
you got him one thousand. But if you got him
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at plus two thousand, brought you back. So now, if
you did both of those things, that's what's called scalping.
You've locked in profits. No matter who goes number three.
If it's Jones, you've netted seven hundred and fifty dollars.
If it's Fields, you've won. I can't wait till they
and see what happened. I can just tell you this.
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If you look at Kyle Shanahan's history, he wants two
things out of his quarterback accuracy and decision making. Okay,
there are horses for courses. Justin Fields, I believe will
be a fine pro Again, he doesn't maybe rate as
high as Mac Jones in the area of read progression.
I'm not pashing him, and I don't care about statistics
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in these goofeed numbers and people look, they were on
a pretty it's a pretty simplistic offense at o'ho State. Okay,
Matt Jones, justin Fields, drops back, makes his read and
if it's not there, he's encouraged to run. He's got
the autonomy to run. They don't run the same offense
he'd be running under Kyle Shanahan. Mac Jones is closer
to that. Be there as it may. I'm a fan
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of both of them. Will see what happens. I will
just tell you that Kyle Shanahan simply wants his quarterback
to run his offense, not to be a whirling dervish
improvisational freelancer. He quit in Cleveland because management wanted uh
Kyle Shanahan to start Johnny Manziel. He said, hell no,
not no, hell no. And now you know why I
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can't wait for the twenty nine. Just like you, keep
an open mind. No one knows what's gonna happen. But
I think the probability to me suggest it's Mac Jones.
And as Dennis Miller might say, of course that's just
my opinion. I could be wrong, all right, coming up?
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macking on sports with our own McKenzie Rivers. All right,
here's the big reveal. Mackenzie is realated to do a
very nice person. Who I've mentioned this broadcast tonight at
least fourteen times. It rhymes with Kyle Shanahan. So what's
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interesting is you might have his ear and you might
be willing to give some advice to him. And I
know Kyle listen to the Sea. Yeah, so Saturday, without
further ado, why don't you tell Clile what you would
do if you were in his shoes? Listen, Kyle, you
remember Ryan landered two thousand four US playing Madden. You
told me, Michael vick as I was winno turnovers in
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the game, he could be the greatest quarterback of all time.
There's no way to know that, but he had all
the tools, he said, I don't care who you selected
number three. The odds say it might be justin Fields.
Last week it was Mac Jones favorite. If I had
to guess, I think it's Trey Lance, but I don't know.
I think so. I think so. I think it's Trey
Lance at five is to catch you off. But what
happens if Jimmy g gets hurt week three? You can't
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march Lance out there, but couldn't go ahead. That's exactly
my point. What if Jimmy g gets hurt week three?
You have another thirty years to coach Kyle, here's my thing.
Let me just go on a little rant here. Tupuck
knew he was gonna die, or at least he knew
he was going to disappear around six and posthumously sell
more rap records than anyone in the history of rap,
so he had a shot clock on his career. He
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knew he had to produce all the music he was
going to produce, and he did. He recorded hundreds of
songs every year, some not released until two thousand six,
ten is after his death. Kyle, you don't have a
terminal illness. You're gonna be one of the best head
coaches in NFL football for thirty years. You know you
have the ability, the preparation, the study, the relationships. You
know that you're gonna be there. Give yourself a chance
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to do amazing things. Get the greatest quarterback of all time.
I don't care if it's Mac Jones, Trey Lance, whatever,
who do you want to work with in fifteen years
and create the greatest offense in football history. That should
be your goal. I don't care if it's a ten
percent chance that happens, chance you get fired. Bill Belichick
didn't work in Cleveland, Andy Reid didn't work in Philly,
but they got the greatest quarterbacks ever on their team eventually,
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and then it worked. It worked like Gangbusters. You know.
Jimmy G is actually twenty four and nine is your starter.
He's really good. He had I think Mac Jones has
a much higher ceiling to Jimmy G. When Jimmy G
came out of Northern Illinois, barely nobody knew him. Um
he went out of Eastern Illinois. The reason I know
that I went to Eastern and so do my uncle
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John uh So, you know, and he told me Tony
Romo was gonna be great before he ever stepped on
the NFL football field almost actually a world class athlete.
He but he never won anything in the NFL. Okay,
and his career as a holder for extra points in
field goals wasn't. But I digress. But let's get back
to its handicaped this because the Niners moved up to
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put themselves in the catbird seat. For my money, Kyle Shaped,
there are horses for courses in mac Jones fits that system.
That's why I'm so vehement about this. But that's not
the discount the other guys. Do you say it fits
the system. I've impressed me most about my cousin watching
him growing up from a two thousand four bucks offensive
coordinator quality assistant to what he's doing right now. Is
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his ability adapt I don't think he has. Okay, Okay,
sure he will in draft if he inherits something. So
he got to Washington, he inherited r G three, who
had his best offensive statistic year. Ever, he's still drafted.
Kirk Cousins. No one was running r pos back in
two thousand twelve. Yes, yes, if you're in version of
r p os for fifty years, yes, exactly. Just called
us something different. They brought your name. They brought it
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back an old style and old form. They brought it
to modern NFL. That's what they do. The Shanahan's are
amazing at creating systems, taking old things and working when
the opportunity is there. Anything can work, you need the
opportunity to do it. I have never seen a guy,
while he was an offensive coordinator and now head coach,
used the past to compliment the runner vice versa better
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than Mike Shanahan. He gets linebackers off balance. So if
Matt Jones can read what the defense gives him and
execute Shanahan's offense, it's he's playing chess and his phoners
are playing checkers and read on two, weight on second
and eight, bootleg on third and goal throw for a touchdown.
I've seen it whole life. So like gun to your hand,
I always say that, I don't really mean it literally,
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So you're not gonna shoot me. At the end of
this conversation, Partney, I don't have no plans. So Mackenzie,
in all seriousness, yeah, who who? What's going to happen? That? What? Not?
What you think is gonna happen. But I think there's
a reason why schefter Sims talked about Jones for so much.
I think they're gonna us a trader. I think they're
going to trade back at number five, select Tray Lance,
start Jimmy g for two years, and then unleash the
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greatest running back quarterback combination you've ever seen in your life.
And they're gonna get twenty year old Tree Lance, and
they're gonna they're gonna win two super Bowls with Jimmy
and the kick him to the cur Tree Lands. Yes,
he's only twenty, just turned two years younger than Mac Jones.
He's so much opportunity, so much potential. I want to
see it happened. Honestly, I do. I agree with that.
I just don't think he's best for this system. Right
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here and now, Mackenzie, Well, a couple of weeks here, buddy,
good stuff as always, all right. I want to thank
Larry Sorenson for coming out on the show tonight, and
that's gonna do it this for this week's edition of
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