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Fox Sports Green Eggs. Welcome in another beautiful Sunday morning,
sun starting to find its way out here on the
West Coast as we come to you from the Fox
Sports Radio studios here in the Greater Los Angeles area.
Fantastic weekend that it was the celebration for three days.

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That is the NFL draft hopes and dreams, hope springing
eternal for thirty two fan bases fired up off the
latest presence that were wrapped under the tree. Yeah, a
lot of fights over over undervalued sleeper picks and all
those fun things. But when we get down to it,

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you're looking at a new opportunity players to evaluate, maybe
some lifelines for coaching staffs and general managers. And you know,
my guy was in the middle of all of it.
Here in the war room that is Fox Sports Radio,
where all the cameras show up and all this technology
that I never see suddenly arrives and making them look

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oh so pretty. It's my guy, three time pro bowler,
the All American himself. It's LaVar Arrington. And you were
in the middle of all of this. I saw you
with your copious notes. I did have my note, I
did have the notes. I was ready to go. I
did my mock draft and it was it was off.

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It was you know, but but all it takes is
one or two picks to totally disrupt a flow of
the draft, right, And when we saw that, when you
got to number eight, as Matt Rule and company once
again just said we're drafting defense. That's what we know.
That's what we do for those unaware or maybe you
don't remember because of the the haze that was our

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our long battle against COVID and staying at home and
everything else. Last year, Matt Rule did nothing but draft defense.
So when he came out in the first route where
Rashaan Slater of Northwestern staring him in the face, you
need an offensive linemen to protect Sam Donald, who you acquired.
What do you do? You zag and go and get J. C. Horn.

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You know, right, you don't hate to plu or you
hate the game, right because because no, but that's just it, right,
you get a guy who's an impact player. Uh. And
over the two weeks going into the draft, suddenly it
became the battle between Horn and Curtan and they go
back to back off the board. Anyway, but it's just

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a a fun exercise. But you watch it all unraveled.
I've ended up having ten right, all right, So ten
to the right teams nine at the actual pick. Uh.
The Ravens saved me twice down the stretch to get
me to that double digit total with Rashad Bateman. Uh
and uh defa oh way right because he's changed he's changed.

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It's no longer Jason Away. So we have to uh,
we have to get get that changed in our scorecards.
As we were. But but for you, I mean leading
up to the draft and as you started doing the
mock I know, the staring in the face of Mr
Perfect Jay Glazer. Uh, it is difficult. But listening to you,
you know, you held your own with your your analysis

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of why a guy should go there. And that's where
we get in when we do mock drafts, right of
the what should they do? What do they need? Versus
what are the guys in the room? Love? Yeah, I
mean I held true to to what Again, going into
the show, Mike I said, I did a mock draft
based off of if I was hired by the team

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to do their pick. So regardless of what the pick
ended up being, it still was a reflection of you know,
me looking at what their needs were versus who was available,
um and and just the highest highest rated players. So
highest rated player. If you had more than four needs,

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you take the best player available. You know, if you
have more than two two, or if it's very specific needs,
then you take the best available at that position. That
was how I I graded it. Out and that was
how I did the draft. Yeah, I went with the
quote unquote need based obviously, Well, I mean I like,

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I don't pretend to be a source guy like that.
That am that am my jam. We talked to enough
people on the show. We'll talk to Jason Cole a
little later on and see how he came away with
the three days and the madness they're in, uh, and
the excitement. But you know, we had a couple of big,
bold moves in the first round that some left people

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eyebrows raised. And and obviously the one I the nearest
and dearest to mind that I had to answer to,
I I just started cutting and paste in the same
response to everybody, even if the question was far different.
Was related to Justin Fields getting drafted by the Bears
after the aggressive move to trade up, because that that

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was one of the other wild cards in all of
this LaVar is sometimes you have guys acting out of
I don't want to say desperation, but yeah, let's call
it desperation. Uh, And opportunity meets desperation at times. And
with with Adjustin Fields, I saw two things play out here.
And we'll talk a lot about Aaron Rodgers coming up

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here ten minutes from now or or and and throughout
the show it'll be woven back into it. But I
think the move is one Ryan Pace and Matt Naggy
looking at at the board and saying, hey, you know,
we need to make a splash looking for job security,
and while drafting a quarterback instead of just running with

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Andy Dalton and Nick Foles is the way to probably
set yourself up for a couple of extra years going
in in the second round. Being able to to grab
Tevin Jenkins was huge as well. That's a whole lot
of mean coming out of Oaky State. But the other
thing was as the news of Aaron Rodgers saying I'm

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done with this started to circulate on Third's Day, and
you're getting all your bearings and you're trying to get
all your in you know, the best level of intelligence
that you can on this in terms of how fractured
it is. You're looking at the division going all right,
we make a splash and we go get a playmaker
and if we can coach him up fast, it's ours

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for the taking. Yeah. So, so I think the the
two things worked hand in hand. Uh. Yeah, Obviously you
want to keep paychecks coming and keep your title. Uh there,
And we know the Bears as a family business operates
a bit differently. But the the Aaron Rodgers news I
think was the thing that really emboldened them, going, Hey,

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let's go the Captain Kirk's over there. You got Jared
Goff running on over here. And if the Packers have
to go to Jordan's love, I mean, who knows. Maybe
Jordan's love is is ready and he's been laying in
the weeds the whole time, but we've we've got nothing
to believe that that's the case, the case that isn't
the case, and we get into that conversation, I have

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a theory is taking place now. I dig that theoretical
is always fun. But you know when we get into
the just the draft and I'm looking at all the
grades of the winds and losses LaVar, it always just
makes me laugh. How you know, we we hate a pick.
When a guy's going at whatever three, Well, let's just

(08:23):
take Mac Jones right at three, It's like, what are
they doing? His upside is limited? What what's the what's
the call here for San Francisco? But then he goes
to New England it's like, well, that's where we wanted
him to go, that's where he fit, and twelve picks later,
suddenly everybody's a genius because while he's on the board,
they didn't have to trade. Now. I certainly heard a

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lot of the other conversation of look, everything always works
out for Bill Belichick, those stupid Patriots, here they go again,
blah blah blah. But it's just funny. Just a matter
of a couple of picks takes you from while you
really reached and your job should be on the line
versus brilliant move. Absolutely, that's the guy. Well, a lot

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of people did believe that mac Jones could have been
a top top three pick, could have gone to the Jets. Listen,
regardless of what you think of mac Jones, I think
you gotta respect the fact that he did ultimately compete
at the highest of high levels where he came from,

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and and he handled it well, you know, he's he's
one of the guys that went through the entire process
of sitting and watching and learning and waiting, and you
know what, at at at the pick that he went. Mike,
I really believe that that New England. New England has

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they put a lot of pressure on him, but it's
put a lot of pressure on on New England as well,
and I think they'll be able to buy some time
with can him. But mac Jones to New England. I
think that's a great pick for them. And man, you know,
I don't know if he would have went earlier, I
wouldn't have been shocked. I thought the Tray Lance pick

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was was you know, I thought Justin Fields was surely
going to be the guy. But everybody said that Trey
Lance was like, you know, this overwhelming sense of what
they feel of him as the player. So I'm interested
to see how good he really is based off of
everything I heard going into the pick. Mike, Yeah, I
mean that's the beauty of it. It's all a fresh

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slate down because you have to translate whatever skills and
acumen to the pro you gotta go learn a system. Shanahan,
you know we talked about being the genius. I just cautiously,
you know, raised my hand for folks, And I know
it was chronicled a lot with Chris brus Sard going
after the play calling in the Super Bowl one. Uh.

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For me, the bigger issue is going back to that
seventeen draft that the Bears got skewered for all these years.
You know, everybody suddenly should they should have taken Patrick
Mahomes when nobody said that. Nobody said that, Like there
was an argument about Deshaun Watson, right, and that's the
guy you wanted. But with all of these look I

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I I'll give the GMS credit, what law and the
people working in that war room, and they they've got
a vision and if they decided to go be aggressive
and get their guy. In this case it's Trey Lance,
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Here's the
thing with Kyle Shanahan. It's the second bite at the
apple because in that draft, remember all the grab bass
and high fives and slapping and basically laughing at the Bears. Uh.

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Solomon Thomas was a part time player who's no longer there, right,
he's now a member of the Readers. The only team
that really made out when you go and and follow
all those picks. Alvin Kamara ended up with the Saints
off that, right. So there's a guy who who's made

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out very well, but for the forty niners themselves. And
I don't mean to diminish the the linebacking, linebacking play.
But you know they called up Fred Warner and say, well,
look they got him as part of all of this,
Like I can find a guy who can tackle, right
if you're on the field for sixteen games, eight games
a year, you know, being around the ball. Look at

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her Lacker's career. He got a lot of fantom half
tackles next there in because the home because it's an
unofficial stat so it can pile up and it doesn't
diminish take you take away from everything. But that's if
that's the impact that you're telling me that he has,
is just giving me a tackle count. I need more
than that, right and in terms of what the guy

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has done as a disruptor and so fine take him
as a win in all of it. But you know
when you take train Lance like, all right, you went
and you got the guy that some would argue as
a reach given North Dakota State and given the lack
of games under his belt, but he's the project. It

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does set up an interesting dynamic of whether Jimmy Garoppolo
is still on that roster when we get to week one. Yeah,
I think he is. I really do. I think that
you gotta believe that they took trade lance so that
they could teach him and so that they could, you know,
have an insurance policy if Garoppolo went down healthwise. That's

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that's how I look at it. I think they do
view him as their their future, but I don't think
that it's an immediate situation unless he shows that he
has the ability to to transition into the spot. I mean,
there's always that that he gets in the camp and
he performs at such a high level that they have

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no choice but to play him. So I mean, again,
a lot of people are high on him. I'm I'd
made the bold prediction that that Justin Fields will have
the better career out of all of the early draft
picks at the position. Um, I thought that was a miss.
But again, like you said, when you create your board

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and you know who you want is your guy, they
made the move to get to that pick, to get
to the guy they wanted to have, and that's who
they took with that pick. So that's that's the guy
that they valued the highest at that position. So good
for them. I think it'll be interesting to see how
it plays out. I mean, like you said, it's it's

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not a big school. He doesn't come from a big
school or big numbers to to support or back a
lot of what what people are saying. But that's what
makes the draft a draft. And like I said, I'm
excited for the young man and I'm excited for him
to prove me wrong, you know, and and see see
what he's capable of doing. Well. It's always the beautiful thing,

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right if you only get so much right because there's
so many many smoke screens, and guys aren't giving you
their full evaluation as they're talking talking about players early.
So something on tape or just in the Uh, the
dealings with the kid, the updates, because we've heard that
for a couple of weeks that they've been getting the
daily workout notes for for Trey Lance heading into the draft.

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So all subterfuge and all chaos. Uh, the picks are
finally in there in in the as we say, the
ink pen. You can't take them away, and now you
gotta go make players out of them. Plenty more draft
talk as the day goes on. Mike Carmen alongside LaVar Arrington.
This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. We're

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just getting warmed up. I really love watching you work
with the guys on on Thursday, and so good good
work there, Thank you, thank you. It was time Jay Glazer,
Bucky Brooks, Kevin Burkhardt trying to keep the three of
you guys flowing, and you'd start getting into arguments or
just are heated discussions. Not quite arguments, but he was like,

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watching this game as I do and appreciating it. See
I have an appreciation for the linebacking position. I mean
I call it what it is. Uh. And that's a
guy that he walked away from the game, and you
guys got an answer out of him that you just
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So we have the convergence of some huge sporting events.
We get the Draft, we get the Kentucky Derby, both
with about fifty thousand people in attendance. Uh, thanks to

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my my brother and this is a log of family
pursuit in the paramutual wagering world Medina spirit. Uh, twelve
to one wins it one for me, so thank you.
Uh that was the the brother's pick and uh it
paid off. But also we got the gift that is
Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, you had uh some great memes that

(21:23):
came out, LaVar with the way Rogers came to came
to play at Churchill Downs. And then you have Tom
Brady walking in, Uh some thinking he looked like the
villain from who Frame Roger Rabbit and that there was
some kind of you know, secret law drama serial that
was being created with the way these guys were dressed

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and hanging out with their people. But Rogers doing interviews,
he talked to what Twin Spires and and some of
the others, but wouldn't address the obvious issues. Mike Arko
on the telecast, Uh to give you a little glimpse saying, hey, uh,
this is what Aaron told me. He didn't want to
do it on air. Um it said quote disappointed that

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the news of the rift with the Packers had come out.
Quote loves Green Bay, loves the fans, love the franchise,
all of those fun and exciting things. As you expect,
all of this started bubbling on Thursday, So for probably
about six hours it took away from that the draft
was even going on, other than speculation of all right,

(22:29):
what team now drafts for the Packers. So you got
that still floating out there right of. You know, is
there something imminent between Denver and the Packers? Is is
San Francisco is still in play? Right? Or Vegas for
that matter, you know, because look, you no matter what
you think you've got of your quarterback of the future,

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you trade it all for three to four years if
that's what you thought you can get out of Aaron
Rodgers here on the back end of his career. But
talking with the guys here and I think you'd agree
he's in one of the more unusual set of circumstances
related to these kind of things. He's made his money,
he's got all sorts of his other opportunities that are
out there. And then we have the the report that

(23:13):
came through LaVar saying, well, maybe I'd come back, but
that GM's gotta go. Woof. You know, for me, I thought,
looking at the way he's posturing that this is is
more of of Aaron Rodgers trying to position himself to
be seen as what he's worth and what he's worthy of.

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So so going to the teams that he requested, if
you think about it, he requested the San Francisco forty Niners,
the Denver Broncos, and the Las Vegas Raiders, those were
the three teams. Now two of those teams are in
the a f C West, Right, So if he were

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to go to one of those teams, Denver is a
pretty you know, pretty good team improvement wise, UM young
talent on on that offense. He goes there, he's playing
against Patrick Mahomes twice a year. So if he goes
to Vegas, the same thing. So if he goes to
to San Francisco, he's going up against a whole bunch

(24:20):
of really good quarterbacks. Right, you got Russell Wilson, you
now got Sam Or, you got staff Matthew Stafford in
the league. Now in the division, you've got Kyler Murray.
So you know that it would be a quarterback happy,
quarterback heavy um division. So to me, I think that
Aaron Rodgers was making the play to go to a play.

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I mean, who is he competing against and where he's
at right, Well, that's just it. Why would you want
to want to leave where the door is always open
for a division as much as you may hate how
they've operated, but you just said, but you just said,
he's got the money, he's got the accolades, So what
what is going to mo evade him stimulate him to
to play at that that highest level. So to me,

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I think that that's why you would go to a
to a division like that to prove, oh, I'm better,
I can beat Patrick Mahomes at least once or twice
a year, you know, and possibly play for uh A
World championship, for a Super Bowl. So you know, I
think he's kind of been over the whole set up
with what's going on in Green Bay. And I mean

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that's why it has to keep coming up, right, Mike,
I mean for nothing more than that face value. Why
would you want him to continue to try to come
back when it keeps coming up? So that means he
doesn't want to be there. Yeah, it's just the curiosity
of it, you know, when when you lay out the
paths like that, I mean, because you look in the

(25:48):
the the a f C West obviously justin Herbert's got
everything he needs. And then some you know this, this
roster for the Chargers looks like it's stacked, right, and
the Chiefs for all of the whole you know, that
offensive line was decimated. They reloaded pretty fast, right, and
you get a guy back off you know, an opt

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out year, You make the trade for Orlando Brown. You
you add a couple of big picks in the draft
to to really bolster things a whole other level. Uh,
Kyle Long decides he wants to play football again. I
and all of that comes comes to to bear, and
it's like, all right, Chiefs are are ready to roll.
When we look at the NFC, North still goes back

(26:32):
to you know what, what's the path of least resistance
sometimes and look, I'm not in his head. And to
your point, it's like, obviously he's seeking something else or
he just wants to flex, right, because part of the
report was that he wanted Uh. Gutenker comes um fired
and quote, Aaron hasn't said anything like that to me

(26:54):
and certainly hasn't said anything publicly. Well we know that. Um,
I think that's a little unfair to put that on.
Certainly don't like to hear those things, but no, nothing
has been directly communicated to me. Well, yeah, he hasn't
said anything publicly on the record about any of this.
Doesn't mean that there's not a whole lot of smoke
and a fire that started, right, but certainly privately we've

(27:18):
gotten bit by bit a little bit of the the
angst and once again, you know, you get into the
draft and and what even Seattle started to make picks
that seemed to appease Russell Wilson. Right, they went out
until they drafted A Rodgers, Amari Rodgers in the third

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out of Clemson. Once again, first couple of picks, not
skill position players. Still only Jordan's love. Uh. In recent memory,
you got Eric Stokes out of Georgia and then Josh
Meyers because you needed a new center, remember, because the
the other one came to h the Chargers. Well, I'll

(28:00):
say this, I'll say this, and uh, you know, reframe
the question. Reframe the question, Mike, because I got lost
on the last part of what you said, on the
first part of what I was thinking. No, sure, it's
just you know, trying to read between read the tea leaves, right,
that's what we're doing here. Uh, and and at this
point it's all speculation. But when when you look at

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where he is with the Packers, I mean they they've
come close to making that run, right, They've fallen short.
But you've got a roster that can compete alright, so
wanting to, you know, potentially gut the management of it.
He doesn't like the GM and the directions and movement
that he made. Obviously, you bringing a guy and you

(28:44):
want to go run first. When you got Aaron Rodgers,
I'd probably be raising my hand and wondering what you
want to do there as well. All right, let me
put this in front of you. Hit me, because this
is what I was thinking. I just needed you to
reframe me. What if I were to say to you
that Aaron Rodgers window of opportunity to win the Super
Bowl was this year, and and based upon looking at

(29:12):
that window closing, then you gotta look at how he's
reacting to the situation. So it's I don't know that
it's really about making it a GM situation more so
than it is him feeling. Is though, it's time from
for him to move on from that scenario because maybe

(29:35):
that was his his I mean, you talk about two
years consecutively, how close he was to get into the
super Bowl but just couldn't get over that last hump
that I mean, it's it's it would be. I mean,
I guess you don't ever want a guy to ever
think that that's what his his ultimate destiny is. But

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I mean, just for the simple fact to me, what
if he feels that one though has closed and he's
got to go find a team where he can do
more winning and compete against higher levels of talent. I
just think that that's what it is. And I don't
think it's about a GM situation. I really do think
that it's it's more so about him getting out of

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there and trying to create a different situation before it's
too late. Well, because that's the thing though, at least
me from the outside looking in, says like, as much
as the Bears may have gone all in and gotten
justin fields and improve their offensive line and done some
things that you know, at least cosmetically looked to be there,

(30:38):
your your path is still better there than it would
be in these other destinations, right even, but sometimes you
just need the thrill of the hunt perhaps as well.
Matt Lafleura was asked for comment on this because everybody's
got to do press conferences around the draft. We saw
him before disasters, go back to Shanahan saying we'd all
be dead. Hey Shanahan, I'm still here. Um, But Matt

(31:01):
Lafleur had to address this issue. I know the reports
out there. I mean, this guy is our quarterback man,
and he's our leader of our team, and I want
nothing more to than to see him back in a
in a Packer uniform. And you know, we've been able
to accomplish a lot of great feats over the last
two years, two straight NFC championship games. I know the

(31:22):
seasons haven't ended the way we wanted him to, but
in my eyes, he's the greatest to ever do it.
I don't I don't care about Super Bowls or or whatnot.
But we want him back here. That's all well and good, map,
But what if he doesn't want to be back here? Yeah?
I know, and and I can't even take my brain

(31:42):
to that that spot right now, So UM, I just
want to do everything in my power to to ensure
that that doesn't happen. The only better follow up question
there was, Hey, why did you kick the field goal
in oh man, cool blood it. I mean like he
opened himself up to it. I mean that just sounded

(32:04):
like a man and with an active desperation. Look, we've won,
we've we've been on the doorstep and all of those.
By the way, you're the greatest of all time. Can
I tell you that that's a that's a that's a
hard position to be in, you know, I just I
can feel where he's coming from. Like, man, you want
them you you want to fix it. You know, you

(32:25):
want to make sure it's okay. But if if he
like they said, if if he doesn't want to do it,
I mean, how do you make him want to do it?
You can't make somebody want to do it, So now
the question becomes how do you navigate it? But I
like anything, if someone wants out of a job, a
relationship done with a particular school, I mean, look, all

(32:46):
of you out there listening, whatever you do for a living,
you probably had him at least one moment saying what
am I doing right? Looking at where the grass may
or may not be greener. I kept it to the
uh position of an employment, uh status of what you're
trying to do, you know, follow that dream like Elvis
saying all those years ago, but it's for Aaron Rodgers

(33:07):
trying to get into his head like if he's not
going to address it. And eventually he'll show up on
Pat McAfee's show and sit out over a large glass
of wine or something and suddenly, you know, wax poetically
about it all. But in the moment, chaos reigns supreme
in Green Bay. Uh mentioned Matt Rule at the top
of the show. He's got one of the well the

(33:27):
great draft days of all time. You gotta hear the
call because we try to encapsulate what it means to
get drafted, and we what it would be like to
get our name name up on that that dais, you know,
to have it read by either a super fan or
a legend, all of those things. You know, one of
us in the room has had that happen pretty early

(33:50):
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(35:39):
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(36:00):
no question, we'll call it something else. That'll just be
lave our talks. But one of another part of the
draft that that I just love are the reactions LaVar Right,
you got the draft rooms, Remember how everybody went after
jail and Waddle because he just got up and walked down.
He's like, I've already I've already hugged everybody by time
they put the camera on me, mayde alone. But but

(36:24):
it looked cold and I kind of dunk it, like
he goes. I got plenty of time to celebrate. I
got a long walk up to the up to the
uh to the dayist there to go see Roger Goodell
pick out those hats were terrible. But I now, but
if any of the players that got all thirty two
teams sent to them, I'll buy them whole wholesale for
a buck apiece. Contact me at Swollen Dome Ontay. Right, Well,

(36:49):
I mean because they sent the whole sleeve to every
one of those guys that wasn't a whole wasn't there? Right,
that's a lot of extra hats that will end up
on other heads and little eBay businesses. You may made
look at it draft issue to act uh coming up,
But but Matt Rule and the Panthers, I just wanted
to highlight this one. It's one of the uh. The

(37:09):
reactions of the draft also genuine. You get some snippets
of the calls and and certainly in every local market
as guys started doing their press, you know, they had
to recount some of the tales of coach giving him
a call. But this one from Matt Rule as he
got into the sixth round was one of my favorites.

(37:31):
What's up, brother, you're coming or what? Uh? Trying to
figure it out right now? No? No, no, no, I
just drafted you you coming? Or what are you kidding? Bro? No?
You did not? Yeah, welcome to a period. Yeah, man,
welcome to Carolina Panthers. Dude, chill out, brother, I cannot
wait to help you win. Man, I cannot wait to

(37:52):
help you win. I love it. I love it. Well, here,
thank you, here's pleasure. You're gonna be good at let go.
I'm already. So that's it. It goes on for like
another forty seconds or thereabouts. But that reaction because Thomas Fletcher,

(38:14):
long snapper for Alabama gets picked ut pick in the
sixth round, one of those compensatory selections, and that reaction
is about as good as it gets because he's like,
I don't know, I haven't talked to my agent. You
don't think I think he was an undrafted free agent,
right because you're you're you may not be paying attention
at that point, all right, You're on day three, it's
a Saturday. It's like, you know what, I'm gonna clear

(38:35):
my head. I'm just gonna go do my thing. And
you maybe waiting for the calls to come in after
the drafts over, uh, to see about availability, right because
now the players, if you don't get drafted, you have
their choices. But the Fletcher reaction is about as good
as it gets. It good. You love those moments, you know, Mike.

(38:56):
It's whether it's the last pick or is the first
pick still a dream come true? You know, it's such
a small percentage of people who get drafted. It's you know,
just to get your name called. It's and it's amazing.
You're a You're a winner, no matter if you're the
first or the last. Well, the other was great for
for them. In the fourth round, they selected Cuba Hubbard,

(39:19):
the running back out of Oklahoma State, and the story
was that Matt Rule's wife called him and said you better,
you better pick him m hm. Basically that he'd run
all over his defense and he was still sitting on
the board as one of the best available players. Like
you know what you need depth there. I mean, obviously
with Christian McCaffrey all world if he's healthy, but coming

(39:41):
off a big injury and maybe using him a little differently. Uh,
the opportunity comes in Hubbard. Uh. Certainly acquitted himself well
the last couple of years, big time runner, endurable. Uh.
We we've seen that, so, you know, an opportunity there.
But the fact that his wife said, hey wanted to
take another look here at an area of need and

(40:02):
it's an offensive player. I mean, just crazy. That was
four offensive player, actually five in a row that they
picked after J. C. Horne. I think suddenly somebody finally
said your defense is set, Bunny. I'm not mad at that.
J C. Horne is there, he's available. You gotta go
ahead and make that play. Well, that's it, right, It

(40:22):
was either that or the offensive lineman. All it did
was ruined my mock draft. So I hated for that,
yeah and yours. Yeah. No. So he may even made
us look foolish at the moment, but that's okay. I
can't hate on him. Hey, coming up next and all
time great says, I don't know that I'll ever be
a hundred percent again. Waha, Cry cry NBA talk next
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(40:45):
Sports Sunday Mike Carmen alongside the great three time pro
bowler gonna be a college Football Hall of Famer talking
that your existence. So I just need to keep applying
pressure across this blowtorch uh and you know, back channel
calls wherever we can. But my guy, LaVar Arrington, how's

(41:07):
a week, buddy, other than having to do all sorts
of prep for the draft. Coverage on Thursday night. A
lot of hours there, man, it was a lot of hours.
But you know what, it was fun all right. It's
you know, Jay is so like he's so plugged in, man,
I mean it's crazy. But I was like, you know what,
I'm staying true to my my mock. No, I I

(41:29):
done that because I'm you know, part of me is
And I warned you last week. It's like whatever he's saying,
he's happening. Because Mr Perfecto, you want to talk about
being dialed in that that's that's the phone you want
forget about government phones and whatever else. Give me that
you ain't lying. I'll tell you that you ain't told.

(41:50):
Allowing that one Mike. But it was good. You know,
Bucky Brooks's knowledge is is amazing. Um, he's so superior
and and how he like you know, views and breaks
down talent and just the sensibility of it also and
then Burkhart, you know, just just the way he his
you know, personality driven. You know, it was good man.

(42:13):
I really enjoyed the show. Um, but it was interesting,
like listening to you know, Bucky's analysis and Jay Glazers
like putting everything down and putting it in its proper
places pretty intense. Well no, that's just well, but that's
the beauty of it. You got a bunch of guys
in the room that know the business that I mean,

(42:34):
Bucky played, You obviously played, so you've got your your
eye and how you view players as as you review
tape and and the super cuts of these players. And
then you've got Jay who's connected to everybody in the
league and then some and so sometimes the here's what
the evaluation is. As as we were talking about a

(42:55):
little bit in the first hour, it just doesn't matter, right,
It just gets down to, all right, this is the
guy they like, whether it was the interview, whether it
was one particular game right and a matchup they had
and they said, well, we're gonna be facing a guy
like this in Division twice a year, so let's go
get a guy that neutralizes either this defender or this offense.
You know, this is how we can attack this team's tackles,

(43:20):
whatever the case may be. I mean, we we go
with imperfect information, smoke screen, subterfuge, and it makes for
one hell of a viewing experience. Twelve point four million
the estimated viewership on Thursday and when you you think
about that. I mean, that's greater, greater a number than

(43:40):
World Series games, than NBA Finals games than most of
our sporting events to watch names red and fans act
the fool in Cleveland, right, Yeah, I thought it looked
really good. It was fantastic. I've only been to one.
I would love to go again. I went in New

(44:00):
York for the two thousand six draft, so uh would
have been yeah, so it would have been uh, the Liner,
Reggie Bush and everybody else, and Liner was the last
guy in the green room. That's how poorly they did this.
They only had a handful of guys come and so
it became a lot of hey, guess who's here? This

(44:21):
guy played for the Jets for two years, Like nobody
knows who this guy is. And then you know someone
would look him up near you he's like he caught
nine balls? Like why is this guy being down? It
as a legend to kill time at the draft? What
are we doing here? But the but the energy in
the room, I mean there's you got thirty two teams represented, right,

(44:43):
you got chaos? Yeah, right big? And you know some
have dennigrated. I hurt our buddy Andy Ferman kind of
going at it a little bit this morning, He's like,
I don't I don't understand how you don't get the juice,
because that's what feeds this whole business, is the hope
that one more move, the right pick in the first

(45:05):
round suddenly turns things around. Yeah, it's it's the metaphor
for life that we all, we all look for. We
apply it on that platform, on that stage. You could
boo the commissioner, you could boo whoever you want. We
we saw a lot of FaceTime for Troy Vincent, so
that was good to see. You know, it's a lot
of love there. And but you know, it's just a

(45:26):
night where everybody comes together to just celebrate, celebrate a game.
And and guys that are hitting some level of success,
right and they have an opportunity. Whether they make it
that that remains to be seen. But for a night,
everybody's zero and zero and their team just got better. Yeah, perceivably,
and yes, you are supposed to enjoy the moment, no

(45:48):
matter what the final outcome of it is. So again,
you you have achieved at a level where you're more
likely to get hit by a streak of lightning or
you know, it's it's your You might win the lottery
before you get drafted, you know, so it's just enjoy

(46:10):
the moment, as you said, and you know, let the
chips fall where they may. But quite the accomplishment. Can't
take that diminish that. And as they always say, going
back to the great Reggie Jackson, they don't boo nobody's Yeah,
that's true too. Sometimes it's warranted though, No, this is true. Uh,
like these comments from Lebron James that came out he

(46:34):
returned to action after missing twenty games on Friday night
against the Sacramento Kings. They set up the opportunity for
him to hit a game winner, he missed it, and
they lose to the King's. Ten games left on the schedule,
several against the heavy weights of the Western Conference, one
against the Knicks, which will be out here in Los Angeles.
Might have to take a Tuesday night off to uh

(46:56):
to go watch that madness in person. That would be fun.
But five losses in the in the last six games,
and then against Sacramento, that's that's a team you gotta beat,
right period. Yeah, that there's there's just no excuse. And
we've seen Anthony Davis come back and you and I
have talked about that a lot. He is looked to

(47:16):
be a shell of himself for long stretches of games
in his return to the court. And then you bring
lebron in struggled early, founded a little bit as that
game war on, but they lose, and then after the
game quote, it's been urgency for me to get back
ever since I got injured. That's just who I am.
Logging the minutes and hours going through his rehab. I

(47:36):
can hear the violin in the background. And then because
I knew it wasn't going to get back to a PC,
it's impossible. I don't think I'll ever get back to
a hundred percent in my career. So what he's trying
to say is, if I should happen to go on
a run, this is the great setup. If I go
on and run, think about how hurt I am when
you talk about your greatness quotes and everything else, like

(47:59):
what a load nonsense. Uh, well, people are listening. Look
at all the work I did. It's it's it's set
up that way. And you know, uncle, uncle say, will
we'll hype it up, no question about it. Look, there's
enough guys that have their pom poms out already. Between

(48:20):
Shannon and Right and all those guys, they're at the
ready for any bit of glimpses of greatness to come.
But if they win it this year, it's it's gonna
be total mayhem. In terms of the discussion of of
Lebron being the goat, part of the discussion, yeah, but

(48:41):
part of the discussion for this year then has to
be how hurt were you really and did you just
take a month and a half off. I don't know.
That looked like he heard his ankle, man, But I
don't know that could be possible, right, I mean, because
that that's the other side that I don't think so,

(49:01):
though not the way he popped down. I don't think so.
But I'll still finish the possession before walking off and whatever.
Doesn't mean you're not hurt, but it's it's just no, well,
but that's just it. It just lends the to the
idea of all of a sudden, he's playing back at
top level because he's gonna need to with this squad

(49:23):
for them to win it. Western Conference is no joke, man. Hell,
Denver's nine and one since Jamal Murray went out, right,
So they're ready to play, Mitchell come back. And you're
looking at the Jazz, the Phoenix Suns, who I've been
banging the drum for all year long. I think folks
are starting to realize just how good they are and

(49:43):
how great Chris Paul has been for Devin Booker. You've
been saying it. Now we'll Chris Paul show up in
the playoffs. That's a whole other that's a whole other thing.
Or will history repeat itself there? Uh? Dallas, even with
Luca being one man gang most nights. That thing he
put up yesterday thirty and twenty ridiculous. Uh. And then

(50:06):
you're going even into the play in games if you
end up falling there, and I think for the Lakers
that's got to be part of the concern, right is
if you fall out of the slots to where you're
down and and maybe you have to run across Steph Curry?
Can you can you lose a series to them? Probably not?
But can he get hot for one game and send
you home? Yeah? Oh? Man, see chaos rains. With a

(50:30):
couple of weeks left in the NBA season, you know
what we didn't do at any point We've gone over
an hour and I haven't said the word m v P.
So that's good. You think getting it well because this
this is the the great time time filler in sports
talk radio this year. We talked about it last last week.
Is like the quest for superheroes is huge. I would

(50:52):
say Yokich for me, mhm, gonna get it. So I
think he missed too much time. I don't think I
think him Beat has played well enough down the stretch
to put himself back into the race. And when it
is he eligible for scoring titles and stuff yet because

(51:14):
as of last week, I haven't checked the numbers, but
he wasn't eligible. He'd played in fewer than sev of
their games. MHM. Just just to throw that out there,
you know, it's appropriate of nothing, And again it's all
an opinion. I'm just I'm just giving what I think
it's gonna. Think it's gonna be Joel and Beat that

(51:35):
gets it nine two and uh ten point eight a game,
as it were. But but it's fun to to throw
it out. And obviously the m v P talk this
year has been going on since Week one, just like
it did for the NFL season, and I'm surprised we
haven't even started talking about it from Major League Baseball.
We're a month in. People are behind the behind the

(51:59):
race here, man, and then you know you're supposed to
talk about this at every turn. But we're actually in
winning time for the NBA final two weeks of the
regular season. It'll end on the sixteenth of May, so
we're there, so m v P talk even even more
warranted as we get down the stretch. Right, we're looking

(52:20):
at nine games left for most teams will have a
full slate today. They're gonna do that Marvel game later
on tonight, which is I'm curious to see exactly what
kind of production value that'll have. M Hey use all
those ties that you can, because in in this media landscape,
we're so fractured. What's one superhero movies one after another.

(52:42):
You can't get them out fast and even though they
keep pushing back Black Widow ret least the thing already.
Um but later on today we will have uh that
that spectacular uh so having having fun with it. It's
the final two weeks of the NBA season and then
it'll go into the good night. But for Laker Land,

(53:03):
it's been a bit of a slog here. They finally
got fans back at Staples, which is a good thing,
not that you're you're really going to get the true Hey,
let's have a massive party, ring ceremony and in a
screw job of in that regard, because I know everybody
loves a good parade, and the l a got screwed
out of two of them. So let's explain to me

(53:27):
one more time the whole this whole play in thing
and the tournament deal. Because the Lakers have fallen, they
slipped pretty far down. Well, you'll have the seventh through
ten seeds will play it out. Seven through ten seeds
will play it and in the conferences, and then you
have the advance that's to play in, play in to

(53:48):
get to you know those seven and eight seeds, right,
so that potentially will be in that Well, that's just
their right. And that's why the lass to the Sacramento
Kings is so egregious at this time of year, wow, right,
because they played without a couple of their stars. Everybody

(54:09):
was back for the Lakers, and and obviously you don't
expect it to be a hundred percent uh tied up
and and and button down and for the game to
be like they've been flowing the whole way through. But
you know, you gotta beat teams like Sacramento like that.
That's just number one, and it's the rule in all sports, right,

(54:30):
beat who you who you're supposed to. And then even
if you go five hundred and the rest of it,
you've got a puncher's chance of doing something here with
ten games remaining and you're sinking in the standings, you're
sitting in the sixth seed now percentage points uh tiebreaker
behind Dallas who are seven and three in their last ten,

(54:50):
and that's with Porzingis being banged up. Lakers are three
and seven in their last ten, and now you're looking
at just a game ahead of the Blazers, to say,
and the Blazers are surging, so winners of three straight,
they're in a bad position here. Yeah, So you got
the Blazers, Grizzlies, John Morant's second year, Brandon Clark, those

(55:14):
guys looking to make explain they just got Jackson back
for the stretch run. Then you look at the Warriors
still sitting at five hundred. But if the Blazers end
up higher higher seat it than higher rank than the Lakers,
then that's gonna make it more difficult for them in
terms of matchup wise, right, the lower they are. Yeah,

(55:36):
well as as it stands, yeah, it's the the difficulty
if you can stay out of the play in right.
But like this is where everybody says, you got Lebron
and Anthony Davis, as long as they're healthy, it doesn't matter, right,
I mean, it isn't that what folks say? Yeah, I
said that Anthony Davis was not going to be able
to play at a high level. You did, you were,

(55:58):
You're on record the entire time after we were on
air right after that injury, then the next morning, and
and that's something you've been resolute on. Just you're gonna
find out later that it was total heart for him
to play. I mean, that's just that's just one of
those injuries. Is just you just it's hard. It takes

(56:19):
a ton of time, and sometimes a ton of time
isn't even enough time. So I don't know, but I
just think that the Lakers, this is this is a
rough one for them. So let me ask you this
before we I know we got to go to break, yes,
but but if if Lebron and the Lakers were to
win this year, is he the goat? You're never gonna

(56:43):
get me to say that, I just you bounced around it,
And for myself, I have forced myself to look at
some of the realities that are facing me. If Lebron
James were to win that, no, I get it, and
you're you're hanging out over at FS one. I mean
you're gonna hear that it's gonna be a new year.

(57:04):
There might be fist fights in the back channels, in
the back hallways like Chicago boy, and maybe you know
the hometown honk as it goes. But folks seem to
remember that not a lot of folks wanted to touch
Dennis Rodman at that point in his career. Right. It's
it's convenient revisionist history to say, oh, well, look they
super teamed it up by bringing him in a lot

(57:25):
of he he was persona non grata in a lot
of places, right, because you had no idea what you
were gonna get, so to suddenly in hindsight say well
you got one of the great rebounderies of all times.
Like yeah, but you had to ride the lightning as
to way whether he was going to show up to
work every day, be kick a photographer, see you get
thrown out of a game like, Yeah, you had the toughness,

(57:47):
but it had to be contained and only there did
it fit. He was almost out of the league, as
opposed to, Hey, you know what, I want to go
play with my my besties who were top five players,
or a guy with eighteen months left on a contracts
are saying, Hey, I don't want to be here anymore.
Get me to l a Uh. I think I think
there's a difference that needs to be accounted for. I

(58:07):
take nothing away from the greatness on the court, but
I do raise my hand as to how it all
came to pass. Uh. Different times different and then you
know the old Hey, they couldn't play in this era, please,
they'd have the nutritional supplements, the training and everything else.
Go back to even you know, the end of Jordan
and all those guys. Those guys were just trying to

(58:27):
integrate weight training because that was never done with basketball players.
So spare me all the nonsense that it wouldn't translate
as that. Did I sound angry enough on a Sunday morning?
It was a tap at I right with you. I
mean I could have yelled a little louder, but it's
still Sunday morning, and maybe someone having a nice, you know,
slow cup of coffee and you know didn't need to

(58:49):
be jolted by my voice as well. It was monotone.
There you go. Well, you know what, sometimes the understated
that's the guy you gotta look out for. He's LaVar
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made Simple dot Com. Coming up, Jaguars got their guy
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they had a nice little side show that also became
part of the draft experience. We'll talk about that next
year on Fox. What do you say, everybody? Fox Sports Sunday,
Mike Carmen, LaVar Arrington hanging out with you. The road

(59:33):
to swoll is long. Give up no days because like
Kyle Shanahan told us, you may not be here on Sunday,
Well it's Sunday. You made it, so go make the
most of it. Soccer games to go run around to.
Once again, LaVar, I love seeing the action on the pitch.
We were hanging out at uh at Bosco yesterday the cathedral.

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Madeline took a shot at one point that I thought
was gonna break a window, and it was one of
those big ones. I was like, oh, this is this
is gonna cost me a lot of money soccer soccer.
She blasted one that just kept sailing and rising. It's like,
oh boy, uh. Fortunately it fell just short. But the

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whole thing was I'm not paying for that. Well, I
wouldn't expect you to. Well, it was going to become
an argument, I think, but it also got a good
laugh out of all of the people in attendance. Why
because well, ever the performer, I've got to be a loudmouth.
Even on the sidelines, they give up a goal, I
you know, I I gotta I need that goal back.

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You're the heckler. Well, I wouldn't. I don't think I
was heckling though. I just saw the dip in performance
and the the resolve. They gotta lead and they got
a little lazy. So I got a little upset with
you give a hundred until the whistle blows again. That

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that's really what it's all about. Fox Sports Sunday Here
on Fox Sports Radio, my Carmen LaVar Arrington. LaVar just
decided he hated me in that moment. He goes, oh,
you're that guy. Uh, but you probably But it's all right.
I'm all about positivity. They need some encouragement. That I

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was yelling at the referee because he was having conversations
with the fans of the other squad. I'm like, how
about you pay attention to the game over here? Uh?
That that didn't go so well. But when we look
at the draft of the obvious first pick, right, we
all knew it. Guy has been studying the playbook. Uh.
He's donated money and time and everything to the greater

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Jacksonville areas. So you bring in Trevor Lawrence, great Travis
at t N goes at at maybe a little eyebrow
raising given the level of performance you had from James
Robinson a year ago. But you can never have enough weapons, uh,
and a guy who can do both as runner and receiver,
and good things. Rest of the draft flows through all

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finding good But the Jaguars were also in on this
other story, and well I have to bring it up
because it's it's novel and it gets people excitable and angry. Uh.
Is that they had Tim Tebow in for this. It's
it's it's worthy of four minutes of our time just

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for the idea of he's a guy that played, did
not play well, did not take on the uh critiques
and the advice of hey, maybe because because we do
this with quarterbacks every now and again, right, maybe they
should take some reps here or there are everywhere. Remember
how angry people got with Lamar Jackson and it suddenly

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became a thing about race. I was like, no, they've
been asking quarterbacks to do this for a long time. Uh.
And obviously, dude wins the m v P, gets his
fifth fifty year of his contract, picked up all of
those things, and he can say blank you. But in
the moment, you're you're also trying to evaluate where does
a fit? Where does he go? And and while many

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may not have it doubt, it only takes one to
just raise their hand and say, hey, what about And
for Tim Tebow, he won games and folks will say
he was a winner. It's like, was it pretty? And
is that how you want to run an NFL offense?
To that? I think we all sit right, but but
you're gonna run it like that to where it's you're
basically playing uh sand lot football, run around and get open.

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Eventually Tebow is gonna break containment and find you. Some
would say that was the first part of Big Ben's career,
that would well, you hang on and uh have three
guys hanging off him. This is true, This is true.
But evolution is there with Tebow. I I should he
have gotten a longer run to do it. Maybe maybe not,

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But that part of the career was done. But all
the aisle was, you know what, as a tight end
or an h back. This could be interesting. And now
talk that the thirty three year old Tebow is eyeing
a return to football after the failed baseball experiment, And
I use failed loosely because look, if you have an
opportunity to try, you try, whether it's to sell tickets,

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and you can't put down your sporting endeavors. If someone's
gonna give you a chance, what do you say, No,
It's like in our business, you've got a lot of
guys who got no business putting there, their their mouths
up against a microphone anymore. But if someone still wants
to pay him to do it, what are you gonna say?
Can't fall too good? Strategy? As it were, but with Tebow,

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this story just got people so angry. It's ridiculous. But why,
I mean, I could see it's like, maybe urban Meyer
may feel like he owes it to Tim Tebow to
do whatever Tim Tebow wants, So let's try to figure
out a way to to bring you in. That could

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be something to get upset with. I mean, it could
be the timing of him doing the workout. I don't
I don't know why you would get upset though, I mean,
the guy wants he loves playing football, he loves to compete. Well,
folks get angry by the why does he get another
chance and not this guy? That guy the other? Like life,
life is about a lot about contacts, about about how

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people perceive you, friendships. I mean, it's so easy, but
folks get mad about it. And it's like, okay, just
form better relationships in your life and stop worrying about
something and an opportunity that somebody else gets. You know,
I like it, but you gotta move on. I saw
so many columns devoted and tweets devoted to just outright anger,

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like what's he gonna be a camp guy? And if
he makes the team, all the better. They decided they
found some use for him in a wrinkle in the system. Yeah,
I don't you know, he's a competitor and he's a
polarizing competitor. It's a I mean, that's a story. I mean,
one of the greatest, if not considered to be one

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of the greatest, you know, players of all time in
college and Urban was his coach. I mean, you're gonna
if if people never reported on it, it wouldn't matter,
you know what I mean. So the fact that it
got reported, uh, just it's it's just it's a story.
I think it's a story and it's worth it's worth

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mentioning because of the connection and the historic value of
what what the relationship represents. But to be upset with
with Tim Tebow over continuing to try to chase his
dream of being an NFL player, I mean it's kind
of take a good look at yourself, man. Well that
say you gotta keep dreaming. We talked about the hustle

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and and like the all the reports and and analysis
say you've got to find multiple revenue streams and multiple
careers and all of that to get yourself to that
that end line from a dollars and cents and from
a personal satisfaction. We're all looking for something. Look, a
lot of folks hate their jobs. I get it, But
why hate that this guy is going to give it

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another go. He's in shape and he can make it.
He makes it. I'm sorry that your favorite player didn't
get the third or fourth chance. None. It's it's like
anything in life. It doesn't work that way. But maybe
they did get a third and fourth chance, you know,
and it doesn't play out is publicly because your name

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is not tebow Man. That's all it is. A lot
of people get a lot of chances, and sometimes it
just doesn't work out the way that you'd like for
it to work out. I mean, for what it's worth,
why get upset? I tempt tebow getting another chance. None
of the chances have worked on Stead, he wanted to
playoff game against Pittsburgh. That'll be indelibly etched into our brain.

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Had the huge college and he saved a guy's life
at a spring training game when he was with the Mats,
when he laid hands on a guy and and and
brought him back from whatever seizure and stuff he was having. So,
I mean, the guy does some good positive you like that,
like I I couldn't talk about his baseball acumen because
you know, he hit his ceiling. You know, Michael Jordan

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had trouble with the curve after giving it the time
that he did. Tim Tebow a lot of strikeouts, although
he'd fit in that he in the Major League Baseball
three outcome players are are where we're at home run
strikeouts and draw a walk now and again. Well, I
don't know. Tim Tebow is a renaissance man. Tried in baseball,

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didn't work. Tried in football, didn't work. Tried in baseball again,
didn't work. Tried in football again. We'll see what happens.
You know, Look, and if nothing else, let's just call
it what it is. If you were to sign, there's
a lot of money to be had, right, merchant, it's

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Tim Tebow. Well I remember, it's just spent a couple
of minutes with Tim Tebow. It's a magic And that
was one of the broadcasting things from way back in
the day. What a special man he is in presence
and everything else, and and like he commands tremendous amount
of dollars for speeches, uh and and everything else. So

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there's gotta be something there for shod con and Company,
even if it's Urban Meyer just paying back a favor. Uh.
It got a lot of juice between that and Aaron
Rodgers on Thursday. Those were the two stories leading into
the draft. That and who was going number three? M
and as we saw Trey Lance the banana and the

(01:09:47):
tailpipe the whole time, He's LaVar Harrington. I'm my Carmon. Well,
we had to get a movie reference in here somehow.
Uh here on Fox Sports Radio having some fun with you. Uh.
Coming up next we will go off the rails, Dilo.
But first he's got to give us a full accounting
of what's going on in our sporting universe, Michael and LaVar.
The biggest story the continuing saga of Green Bay Packers

(01:10:08):
quarterback Aaron Rodgers and Lo and Behold. He showed up
at the Kentucky Derby on Saturday and told NBC's Mike
Tariko off camera that he was disappointed that news has
come out about the riff between him and the Packers.
Rogers expressed how much he loves the fans of the franchise,
but said there is a chasm between him and Packers
management in the NBA. On Saturday night, the Indiana Pacers

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defeated the Oklahoma City Thunder at okay See by fifty
seven points, one two to ninety five, was the largest
loss by home team in NBA history. Mavericks over the
Wizards Luca Donchet one point twelve rebounds and a career
high twenty assists, Denver defeating the Los Angeles Clippers one
ten to one oh four. Denver on a five game

(01:10:52):
winning streak, and Utah defeated Toronto to assume the best
record of the NBA at forty six and eight. Team
Michael and Labar, thank you hello. Coming up in about
five minutes, we will go off the rails with Isaac
lowan ground. Find him on Twitter at Isaac low and
Kron having some fun with you. UH. The the Kentucky
Derby card UH one of the big events of the weekend.

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UH kind of slipped in there, and a lot of
handwringing still when we see crowds of fifty thousand, even
though we had a baseball game in Texas a month
ago and there was really nothing that came out of
that alarming UH and in in stilling fear as many
had tried to UH. And now we're seeing events getting

(01:11:35):
back towards higher percentages as we roll through Disneyland opened
on Friday capacity, evidently you could still run amuck that
it was that only at that capacity, LaVar So so
folks were having fun, uh, going up and and being
able to get into rides pretty fast. Yeah. Yeah, we're

(01:11:57):
planning on going for the twins birthday so nicely, John,
But I'm sure it will be a lot more people
going in there by then, so maybe maybe it's an
early birthday celebration. Yeah, we'll have to get that pass,
you know, the V I P Pass. I'm gonna have
to use the Mike Harmon card. Uh. Look, man, if

(01:12:18):
the investments that we've made keep paying off and I
can hit in the other big race cards as we
did yesterday, then perhaps I can go Arrington style. Well
let's hope. So. Well, that's just it, the long road.
You make choices, what you do with your money, and
walking around for a day with a badge that says
v I P. And having people give you the stink

(01:12:40):
either some power to that. Well, there's gotta be some
value proposition at the end of it. For me, I'm
not doing it now. He's LaVar Arrington. He will not
take the bait, but maybe he will over at Gig
of the Mammals. You can always get me at Swill

(01:13:01):
and Dome. I'm an open book. Come get me, because
all I'm gonna do is laugh and say listen harder. Sorry,
suck A couple of tweets like, how about you actually
listen to what I or LaVar say when you try
to take umbridge with it? That would be nice. Uh,
it goes two ways. We talk y'all listen and hopefully

(01:13:24):
somewhere along when we're not lost in translation, can't wait
to see what he's got popping Isaac lowenkron Off the
rails coming up next here on Fox As I'm running
around with a big clock on my neck keeping an
eye on things here in the Fox Sports Radio studios,
Mike Harmon alongside LaVar Arrington. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Hey,

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Com slash Draft LaVar. Before we get it over to Iolo,
I wanted to bring our guy in. Chris Perfett does
a ton of work over prid to Detroit dot com. Uh,
and I know he's been giddy since Thursday night when
a big fellow fell into hit proverbial lap there in
the city of Detroit's So, Chris, take it away. How

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how excited and giddy were you when wide receivers came
off the board and all of a sudden you got
the big guy. I was not expecting panas Sewell, who
is probably the best offensive tackle prospect we've had in
a minute, to be there at seven, for both the
Bengals and the Dolphins to pass on what I think
was probably the second best prospect in this draft pound

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for pound. Uh. And apparently I'm not alone. I wrote
the column on why they should draft pin a sul
reports are out this morning. Brad Holmes was meeting in
said like this was their guy and apparently, um, they
were even exploring ways to trade up to get them.
And there the Lions didn't use all ten minutes on
their on their clock. Uh. They They went up very quickly,

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and apparently I think they even broke the NFL's request
that they don't phone guys before the pick is in
just so they can get him on camera for for
that interview. They just phoned him right away because this
was this was the guy they really wanted. They now
have an offensive line set between Frank rag now, Taylor
Decker and Pine Swool that's going to be there for

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a long time. And it's the way Detroit has decided
to rebuild. Uh, they've rebuilt their defensive aligne through the
trenches in this draft too, with Alan McNeil and owns
Errique on Day two and sewell is you know. I mean, look,
we've seen a lot of teams who have invested highly
in their offensive line, and that was Tampa's way to

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win the Super Bowl, and that's where Detroit wants to go.
I'm mixed, I'm very excited. I try to temper myself
as much as I can with the Lions, but they
had a very good draft night. We had a good
good night. You should see the giddiness in his face, LaVar,
He's smiling, fear to ear at Cristo. Well, there's that.

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But they did have a good draft now, but that's it.
The long road begins with the first step. The one
thing he's going to have to work on is the
pronunciation guide for that squad. If you go through what
their depth chart looks like to two Nigerian's taken on
day two. I'm I got own zerique down, but I'm
still working on the corners. Now. Yeah, you gotta figure
out where those syllables get get sucked away because we

(01:16:37):
know there are silent syllables in there. As we go. Uh,
let's go over to Isaac Low and Crown and go
off the rails. We all do double takes, it curious headlines,
but it takes a keen eye to make sense of that.
Here's our man reporting on the theater of the absurd.

(01:16:57):
It's Isaac Low and cron and is off the rails.
This one's for you, Michael Harmon. All right, this week
we're celebrating an anniversary. You might know where I'm going
with this already. We are going to present to you,
completely censored, of course, one of the greast grants in

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sports history. Art Buckle up this one. We take you
back to Friday, April three, Wrigley Field, Chicago, the Cubs
losing at home to the Dodgers for three to fall
to five and fourteen before a crowd of nine thousand,
three hundred and many of whom were heckling and harassing

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the home team. And right after the game, having witnessed
all this, Cubs manager Lee Elia had enough, so upset
at Cubs fans for heckling his own ayers, that he
launched one of the epic rants in all of sports history.
Here it is, and again it is totally censored. Enjoy

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all these so called fans and from out here and
say they're cut fans, so they're supposed to be behind it.
Rip it every thing. I'll tell you one thing. I
hope we get hot and just to shop it up
in three thousand people to show up every day because
the pair of the real Chicago's fansation kiss my right

(01:18:32):
downtown and print it. Oh mystes out there and let
my players get destroyed every day and will be quiet
about it. For the pickel dying people to show up.
Don't even work. That's why Theron came. They're go get
a job and find out what it's like to go
out on a peasants worked it the other fifthing. Come

(01:18:57):
out here, players, guys push people? There you go, players,
get around here. I haven't seen it here. Happy anniversary,

(01:19:19):
Michael Harmon. Now, LaVar, had you ever heard that rant before? It? So?
What do you think? I loved it? You'd want to
play for lee Elia? Give me I love the rant?
Did you ever have I don't think anyone in the
world had a similar rent like that? But did you
ever have a rant during all the time that you

(01:19:41):
spent being interviewed by US microphone jockeys? No? I mean
I've ranted before, but not not to that degree. So
you have something to aspire. See Dane over yet. Hey, hey,
hey Harmon, should we tell him about how McCrae. Oh boy,
we were just gonna We'll leave hell McCord another time.

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Some of the great rants? Uh? And I remember going
to those games at Wrigley Field where there weren't very many.
Were you one of the guys he was referring to? Well,
I would have been too young to have been among
the unemployed. I was a student at that point. That's
my story and I'm sticking to it. Yes, vociferous cub fans,
no question about it. Coming out next War Room tales

(01:20:24):
from the NFL Draft. Alright, second half begins here on
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmon alongside the
three time pro bowler, the King of the mantles himself,
my guy, LaVar Arrington, going on disco balls still down.
We're celebrating the end of the NFL Draft, Kentucky Derby weekend.

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Whatever y'all have going here on a Sunday, we appreciate
you given us a few minutes of your time to
and from services. I know a lot of the places
of worship here in southern California on their you know,
little billboards outside and saying come on back, we're back.
No more virtual services. And so you see, bit by

(01:21:08):
bit you're seeing people out here. They finally got rid
of the mandates that I've got to wear a mask
when I'm walking my dog outside, which made no sense
and I didn't do it. I got a lot of
people to yell at me. But now I actually have,
you know, government approval to do those things of our
So whatever you're doing, thanks for being with us here
on Fox Sports Radio. So the draft now in, it's

(01:21:32):
in the rear view mirror, you know, I do you
still get giddy thinking back to your your draft day
and and all that meant for what what's set up
your life here? Uh giddy, not so much giddy, but
just just appreciative. You know. It's it's it's uh humbling
thought every time the draft comes around to think that,

(01:21:56):
you know, I went number two, Like it's kind of crazy,
no longer wait for you, it's just crazy, like to
kind of try to comprehend how difficult it is to
just go in the draft, but then to go number two. Overall,
it's still it still hits me the same way. Um,

(01:22:16):
just just kind of blown away that that you know,
I actually did so well that that it had led
to me going that high in the draft. So yeah,
I mean I don't think that feeling will ever get old.
Part of it, you know, plan to work, work, the plan.
We talked about it all the time with different components

(01:22:38):
of your life. Certainly during the pandemic, a lot of
folks trying to build and sharpen their skills, maybe take
up some sort of artistic endeavor that they hadn't before,
or maybe just get back into workouts. And you know,
some lost the battle of the bulge, some got swollen,
but certainly. It's it's all a function of the work

(01:23:01):
you put in and watching it pay off. And on
draft night and over these last three days, we saw
a lot of what two picks plus then the free
agency market and started seeing the notices of guys getting
signed right away, some of whom still you know, your question,
how did this guy not get drafted? Or why did

(01:23:21):
that guy go so late? There's there's always a million
parts to it to it all, a lot of moving, interchangeable,
you know, synapses, connections just don't get made right. What
whether it's the intel you have on a guy or
maybe you know, an illness or something that befell them
during their collegiate career that you know leaves a mark,

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right because there was some question with Justin Fields even
just going to to that pick of the disclosure of epilepsy,
how much that may impact his draft status, And in
the end it didn't seemingly still trade up the Bears
due to eleven to go get him. But you know,

(01:24:05):
when when we were all set and done with this stuff, LaVar,
we never know all the details, as much as we
may love to, and you're not You're never going to
know all of the details. Surrounding you know, draft picks
and draft status is. But you know, I will say this,
they do. You know, the NFL does a great job
of allowing its fan base and I mean it's as

(01:24:29):
far as you can go. I'll tell you that. I mean,
there's there's a lot of there's a lot that goes
into preparing for those moments and the fact that the
NFL puts cameras and you know, puts puts voices to it.
I mean, they've they've done a great job of growing

(01:24:50):
the show. You know, the show has different elements to it,
and and part of that is giving a an inside
view of of things like the draft and how of
how it plays out, so that we may not get everything,
but we sure do get a whole lot, that's for certain. Well,
we know the deep dives that that they do into

(01:25:11):
each player, going all the way back to their grade
schools in some cases, trying to figure out everything is uh,
and if there's accusations against the player for any cause,
trying to get to the bottom of what's real, what's
what's imagined, what's somewhere in between, uh, and where there
may be litigation involved. I mean, all of those things. Uh,

(01:25:31):
you're you're putting a lot of hats on, kind of
like we do here in radio, except now you're putting
your job, uh in jeopardy and and trying to make
decisions for a billion dollar company, because that's really at
the end of the day, we we've got to, you know,
peel the onion back. I mean, that's what we're talking about.
We're watching the protests here on the pitch in England

(01:25:53):
after the failed Super League mess. You've got Man United
in Liverpool their delay need based on fans taking to
the field that deployed smoke bombs against them and just
a crazy scene. But you know that fanaticism, the ownership
of these squads, you know, you see it on message

(01:26:13):
boards and and sometimes a little more in public, the
bags on their heads that we've seen, and normally it's innocuous,
but it's still, Hey, we can have our voice and
make our displeasure with something known. We've got all the
mock drafts, and while I kind of mock the number
of mock drafts that some guys have to do, they're
getting paid to do it based on information they're getting,

(01:26:34):
and sometimes I think, just hey, let's shuffle it up
for interest sake. But you know, folks that get all
out of sorts about that too, don't read them. If
you're in our business, don't talk about them. Right. We
all have our thoughts of what need based drafting is
and and what a team should do based on what
we watched. And let's face it, for a lot of folks,

(01:26:56):
they don't watch nearly as much as they claim do. Uh.
They may have knowledge of one team and that's their focus,
and that's fine, but it's it's the idea that you know,
trying to take down, you know, in the Bill Polian style.
You know who's mel Kuiper that famous clip that kept
making the rounds Like you're just taking educated guesses, you

(01:27:19):
know what, as fans and as people who consume this game,
it's a beautiful ride. And if you're right, then you
have a moment say all right, I was in line
with the decision makers. But if you if you don't,
you don't. And and it's it's all fun theater and
and a three day drama. Anyway, Well, the mel Kuipers
of the world, they've built so many, so many relationships.

(01:27:45):
They they have the and I don't want to diminish
what what any expert does, but they do have the
the you know, the advantage of being able to match
their analysis with with strong, strong opinions and pieces of
information from each and every you know, franchise. So that's

(01:28:10):
kind of you can you could sit there and say X,
Y and Z and be totally incorrect, but knowing what
you know, you can frame it in a way where
it's justified because the end result matched what you said,
you know what I mean, versus the analysis of what
you said matching. And that's where it can get a

(01:28:31):
little tricky, you know, if if you understand it what
I just said to know that well, I mean, that's
just it, right, and you're getting information and it's never
going to be perfect obviously. You know. The great example
of that is pick number three, right, Trey Lance going
to the forty niners from all betting outfits from all

(01:28:51):
analysis uh that people put forward. It was mac Jones,
mac Jones, mac Jones, Chris Simms and Shanahan and their
relates Chip And it's like, well, why would they put
that out, like because it's the draft, because that's what
you do I and this direction is part of the game.
Might that might they have at some point Hadden mac
Jones number one and told one person and the game

(01:29:14):
of telephone begins. Sure, uh, anything's possible. But the reality
is that in the end it doesn't matter. Like folks
get all mad that a pick goes wrong. It's like
unless you lost money on it then and then you're
gonna be mad. But again, you're betting on the information
that you have and it's still just a best guest

(01:29:36):
because you don't know if people are giving you a
percent the truth. And in these scenarios with so much
on the line, why would they right? I mean to
to call it what it is, right, you know, we
must protect this house. I mean, as much as it's
the NFL, it's thirty two uh different independent owners and
operators getting in there and building their squad. Uh. And

(01:29:59):
part of that is playing the chess game of what
can we do where we can we trade up? All? Right?
We we had Chris Perfette before we left, right covering
things in Detroit and and reading all their their assessments
of what they made, have needed or wanted to do.
In the end, the guy that seemed like the perfect
fit fell into their laps. It's pretty cool. I think

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the same thing happened for New England, well, for New
England and Mac Jones and and taken further right, I
mean you you are a mentor and a sounding board
for a lot of guys coming in, and particularly those
from Penn State and from Micah Parsons. You know, the
Carolina selection kind of threw things off a little bit.
You and I had talked earlier in the week and

(01:30:43):
I said, what about Dallas just the gut said that
that might be a fit, that's where he ends up.
But I'm sure for a few minutes there it was
a all right, how's this going to play? As soon
as the corners come off the board, and now things
get jumbled with yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of I'm
sure it got tense for the you know, for Micah

(01:31:05):
definitely started playing on me a little bit, wondering where
he would end up and how that would even impact
Jason no Way and and his possibilities because it did. Um.
It did take a while for a defensive player to
come off the board, so um. But it was kind
of cool seeing them both go, and I was I

(01:31:28):
was really excited, really happy for for them. I mean, jeez,
Michael going to Dallas is that's like, well, what did
I say, he's printing money right now? To just keep
your head on straight. Yeah, keep your head on a
swivel on the field, put together a career. You're a
hero forever there. And then Jason Away goes to a
great football market as well, we have to call him

(01:31:49):
o'daf now Okay, I'm sorry that's what he said to
his in his introductory comment. But yes, folks that know
him as Jason Away, you know him as Jason noway uh.
That was one of the picks I got right. And
you know what's funny is I've been asked about him
in Baltimore on a spot I did three weeks ago.
They asked me specifically about him stats and everything else,

(01:32:13):
or it would have been two weeks ago. It was
after Clowney had signed his deal, right, and a guy
that had performed and gotten a ten million dollar contract
and didn't have the gaudy stats to go with it,
It's like, doesn't mean that he's not getting something done.
It's like, you guys need to stop reading box course.
And they got mad at me, but then, look, they

(01:32:34):
wouldn't be the first. They're sure as hell not going
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(01:32:57):
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(01:33:17):
like Terrell Davison off his career, why wouldn't Patrick Willis
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I wanted to get to this right quick. We'll have
Jason Colan with us in a couple of minutes. I
just always curious to see behind the scenes, right, because
we get a little snippet right of the war rooms.
The report just based on this little clip that got

(01:34:21):
viewed from the Eagles draft room. Uh, Louisiana Tech defensive
tag hole. Milton Williams comes off the board in the
third round. How he Roseman wants to go around and
fist bump folks, and Tom Donahoe, the team senior director
of player personnel, wanted no part of it. I just
looked at him. So the the Eagles, who we'd had

(01:34:43):
that big expose talking about what a dumpster fire it is.
Uh in terms of communication and cohesion. Uh, here's another
little snippet to add to that Wikipedia page. Jeez, I
don't know, man, We're gonna have to wait and see
what happens in Philadelphia. That's that's uh, it's just one
of those things. Well, Siriani o' beach and rock paper scissors, though,

(01:35:06):
well there you go. How's that for draft analysis? Well,
he kept picking rock. He would not change. That's what
you get back, like after the coach interviews a kid, Hey,
what were your reaction? He just kept picking rock. Now
he was inflexible, not open to do ideas and ways

(01:35:26):
of doing things. He's out, how about on him? But
but he's a five star. Doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
I'm out. Uh chaos there. And then you know, a quick,
quick nod because the Patriots also are gonna say goodbye
to one of the guys in their uh their draft researcher,
Ernie Adams, who's been with the organization since its inception,

(01:35:51):
uh almost legitimately, uh, probably moving in the organization. But
we talked about the continuity of things in New England,
and that's another big change just in terms of you know,
you can teach someone, but after all those years, you
know where to find the nuggets. Yeah, yeah, you better.

(01:36:11):
That's that's that's the idea, and that's the part of
the job where you you've got to be able to
stack that knowledge and stack that wisdom and be able
to apply it. So yeah, man, I mean there were
some good decisions that were being made and it's going
to be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Institutional knowledge, Remember, wherever you work, you've got knowledge. I

(01:36:32):
mean one, you've gotta have training manuals, and you've gotta
have a lot of succession. But reality is, if you
get you don't want to get rid of the folks
in the room that know how things have been. There's
gotta be some history, some legacy. You can't blow it
all out. So curious in New England other than Bill
Belichick patting his dog, the dog knows a lot too.
But Ernie Adams, Uh, they didn't have a true title

(01:36:56):
for him. Researcher dot dot dot is what he's and
so always curious. When you see the sand shifting a
little bit and you know what, it'll be more interesting.
And then that little segue, Uh, the idea that Jason
Cole is gonna come on and we're gonna argue about
the draft, because that's how good. Let's get it on
Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Sunday. He's LaVar Arrington

(01:37:19):
on Mike Carmen having some fun with you on Fox
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(01:37:41):
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(01:38:26):
sparring partners and a great friend of the show and
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It's our buddy. Jason Cole at Jason Cole sixty two

(01:38:46):
on Twitter, Jake Cole, how are you survived the Three
Days of Badness? I love the Three Days of madis
number one. Number two. We have plenty of books, not
just individually, but we have plenty of Elway copy. Is
that we can sell to all sorts of people. We're
loving that idea. Get in there and sell, sell, sell,
But I mean, he's in the middle of all the rumor, conjecture, speculation,

(01:39:10):
So let's just start there. Aaron Rodgers wears a fancy
Derby to the Kentucky Derby, looking like he was getting
ready to arrest people, like an old timey I don't know,
tun Stone ra kind of yeah, something something along that
maybe Gangs of New York kind of thing. But you
know they're like, yeah, the rumors that did. He's wants

(01:39:33):
the GM fired. Everybody's mad, and and Denver's in the mix.
John Elway trying to figure out a pitch. What do
you make of all this mess? What? It's all this
confirmation that Aaron is not happy, which I you know,
going back to the Jordan Love pick a year ago,
you know, did you think that was gonna make him happy?

(01:39:54):
You know you read the always section when they drafted,
you know, the year that they were supposed to take
the wide receiver out of I'm trying to remember the
guy's name, and he ended up with the Bengals, right,
he was out of Tennessee. It escapes me, but great
wide receiver, and everybody expected that Denver was gonna take him.
Dan Reeves was finally going to get a great receiver

(01:40:15):
for for Elway. Yeah, it was the Carl pickenstaff. They
were supposed to take Carl Pickens. Right, who did they take.
It's a Commy mattic Hey, he's an XFL champion. They
took a quarterback in the first round and Elway was

(01:40:35):
going into his tenth year. Do you think Elway was happy? No?
Not really? Okay, and guess what that was Dan Reeves's
last year with the Broncos. Okay, so look, history just
repeats itself. Is Aaron Rodgers happy about this? Is he
happy about the way the game ended in the playoffs

(01:40:56):
where they squandered yet another opportunity in his career, So
that he's sitting there with one championship, and he believes,
and as any player should believe, that he's better than
Tom Brady, Right, he's more physically gifted, when we can
argue that out whether he is or not, but he
believes that in his own head and that he should
have multiple championships. So when you take that competitive fire

(01:41:21):
and you combine it with that frustration, and then you
combine it with the sort of thumbing your your your
boss is thumbing their noses at you by taking your
successor how did you think this was gonna play out?
I mean, really, how did you think it was gonna
play out? J? Cole? The biggest question that kind of

(01:41:43):
continues to pop into my head is why why draft?
Why wait till the draft? Why not before free agency?
Why not at some point in time? Why not as
soon as the season was over. Why not any given
point in time where it could have been seen a
strategically done I mean, this has obviously got to be

(01:42:03):
strategically thought out as well. Why now? Because now was
the time where you get a deal done, Like you've
told them quietly. If you're on Roger's side, you told
them I don't want to be here, go make a deal. Right.
They're on the other side doing what coaches and administrators
always do, which is, oh, we can convince the player

(01:42:26):
to do whatever it is that we think he should do,
and we're in control of the situation, which they may be. Okay,
ultimately Rogers does have final say about whether he plays
or not. Okay, but you know how coaches and administrators are.
They think that they control the situation, right, and they
can just make it happen. So you run this, you know,

(01:42:48):
you run down this sort of control issue. You get
to sort of the deadline, which is Rogers is saying, look,
I'm trying to do this peaceably. I'm trying to you
you'll get a deal done, and you're not responding to me.
Now I have to ratchet this up. So here's the

(01:43:08):
next thing I'm doing to wratch it this up. And
as soon as the rumor came out on Thursday about
San Francisco offering to pick, I knew and you can
look at my you know, I'm not saying I reported
the news. Okay, Adam Schefter reported the news. Let's make
it very very clear. But I knew that it was
coming from Aaron's side. Okay, that that was leaked out

(01:43:32):
from Aaron's side, because if you put all the factors together,
he wants that news out because he wants the pressure
on the Packers to accept a deal, and so Roder
pushing it, and now the story is out that he
wants frying Good comes to be fired. Okay, he's just
ratcheting up the pressure on the Packers to get this
deal done, and it's unpleasant for the player. Let me

(01:43:54):
just tell you that it's really hard for the player
to do this, but he's trying to do it the
most pointe way you can't and the Packers are not responding.
And I don't necessarily blame the Packers, but Rogers is
showing he's going to make this unpleasant. H We gotta
love good theater, and we certainly had plenty of it
over the last few days. Crazy fans and get addressed

(01:44:16):
like the macho man. We had a proposal, and we
had that crazy We had the guy, We had the
guy no, no, no no. We had a proposal and we
had the guy who was there, the macho man was
there on Yeah that guy was yeah right, that's legendary. Now, LaVar,
I gotta ask this question. If you go to the
draft in your anniversary, do you stay married the next day? Yes? Really,

(01:44:43):
you've got a great wife. Yeah, Bay, if you take
her to the draft. Yes, I'll tell you this to
Trish had hit a st three on you and then
she just glare at you. So you gotta look out, Jake,
Am I wrong? LaVar? Yeah? I won't. I won't now

(01:45:04):
do what I've done. So yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, you
play that, you play that one out, you play that.
I'm an over achiever. J Cole, So yes, yes, i'd
have to say, yes, well we all we all? Are
we all? Yeah? I'd like to believe we are. That's
why we get to talk here on the radio Fox
Sports Radio. Jason Cole with us here. Editor in chief

(01:45:26):
fansidded dot Com are friend of the show, joins us
every couple of weeks to chop up what's going around
in this NFL world. Mike, Yes, sir, I have a
bone to pick with j Cole. Okay, well let me
just step out of the way. Jacole up very big bone.
It's a very big bone. J Cole. How is Patrick

(01:45:48):
Willis not a first ballot Hall of Famer? Boom? I
knew this was coming. Oh. Um, it's a great question,
too short of churse sadly. Um, you need to get
in the room. I mean I thought about that a
lot this year, and I voted for him to go
from the to fifteen. Um. I think we've ignored him
because I mean, he didn't make the fifteen, so he

(01:46:09):
didn't even make it in the room. Um. But it's
the Tarrell Davis thing. Like Tarrell Davis took ten years
again in the Hall of Fame, and I think if
you look at Trill David and and I will say this,
I think Patrick Willis was a more gifted player, particularly
at his position, than Tarrell Davis was. Tarrell Davis was
great and produced and produced in the playoffs at championship level,

(01:46:31):
all those kinds of things. I think what Patrick's missing
is the championship part. So we gotta get him in
the room. And then we got to have a really
frank discussion of like, for four or five years, and
I can't remember exactly how long his career is, but
for four or five years. I mean, he's like maybe

(01:46:51):
I don't know, I don't know if I'm gonna go
greatest ever because maybe yeah, But like I mean, but
kisses up there and and Ray for a four or
five year period time. But he's at least let's just
say this, he's in that discussion, right, And if you're
in that discussion, you're in the Hall of Fame because

(01:47:11):
those guys are first ballot guys, right, like butt Kinson,
Ray Lewis. We don't even like, yeah, just go in
and and you know you belong, right, So we don't
argue that we should be discussing Patrick Willis. We should
have him out there and have guys like you, you know,
give testimonial. Let's say, this guy's as good as anybody

(01:47:33):
for a four or five year period of time, right,
and we see that. So it's not really but you're
not really picking a bone. But I do represent as
a Hall of Fame voter that that constituency. That's why
I was a bone, because whether it's you or your
constituent constituency, thank you. Yeah, somebody has to be held

(01:47:55):
accountable for this monstrusted of looking at strocity and seven
Pro Bowls five time first team All Pro. This is
just one of the most You're sounding like a Southern
well the dare to do the damage from the goal.

(01:48:15):
The goal, Oh you got the goal in nicely done.
Thank you sir, thank you. I just I just had
to give this one to you, j Cole, because I'm
just so when when I said I was like, sure
to be first ballot Hall of Famer, and then we
were like, wait, you've been out of the league for
seven years. That's not good. We've skipped him for two years.

(01:48:38):
Like I just I looked at that ballot and I'm like,
that's unbelievable to me. And look, I am a Zach
and just so you know, I'm a Zach Thomas guy too.
I believe in Zack Thomas. But I would there's no
win in the world I would ever say if you
put those two gentlemen next to each other physically, that
they compare. Okay, looks like I'm not making that kind Joe.

(01:49:00):
Zach had an incredibly long and productive career, and he
was a really he's a brilliant football player and incredibly
productive and you know, uh, he's a clear step behind.
But kissing and ray lewis like He's a clear step
gind but he belongs in Pat Willis isn't well. It

(01:49:23):
is in the discussion with with ray Lewis and Bud
Kiss of being one of the greatest line back middle
linebacker of all time. The only thing he doesn't have
his longevity. Jeez. We got to just keep pushing to
get him in the room. There, LaVar, like its Shaw Shank,
you have to write two letters a week. That's why
I thought I'd bring it up right now while I

(01:49:43):
have him on on a giant platform on Fox Sports. Alright,
I needed no way. I mean to know, I need
to know something on Fox Sports Radio on Sunday morning. Okay,
all right, are we good here with where the whole
Justin Fields mac Jones kind of thing or where? What
are our thoughts about that one? I think Justin Fields

(01:50:04):
will have the best career out of all the quarterbacks.
I think mac Jones went to the best situation that
he could have gone to. I think trade, uh, the
Lance trade Lance pick isn't a peculiar one. It's interesting.
I'm very interested to see how he does. Um Trevor

(01:50:25):
Lawrence is going to be in an uphill battle for
for greatness just because of what what the franchise is.
So I think that about Chicago a little bit too.
I think Chicago. I'm with you, but I think Chicago
is better situated to win. And keep in mind that

(01:50:48):
that's why Russell Wilson was trying to get their great
market and a team that is snucky. It's a sneaky
good team. So so you you add a guy like
Justin Fields to that team, and I think he has
that same type of of presence that that Russell Wilson
would have brought, not as established of course, but in

(01:51:09):
potential wise. I think Justin Fields has something about him
that's just I just see it in him, and it
just it resonates with me, like I don't know what,
let me let me all right, I gotta got I
gotta ask this question though, because I was watching the
Zach Wilson on Twitter before the draft and he's doing
these pictures of him looking in the mirror in the suit,

(01:51:30):
perfect care and that whole thing, and I'm just thinking, like,
don't do the pretty boy thing when you're about to
go be a Jets quarterback. Just hold off, hold off
on that for a while, could you, you know? And
I just wonder is that enough like Joe Namath that
you can pull it off because you've got swagged, or
is it like Mark Sanchez where it's like a faux

(01:51:53):
thing and it's going to get uncovered. He looks like
he's no more than fourteen years old, Like that was
the first thing that came often. Yeah, you know, he's
got a first round out of high school hockey player.
She she looks like he's like fourteen. But then secondly,
you know what, everybody has their different ways of doing things,

(01:52:17):
Like I thought the way Mac Jones walked to the
stage was the funniest junk I've ever seen in my
entire life. Everybody kept putting it up against Heath Ledger
from the dark night when he was leaving the hospital.
Oh man, that was that was too much. But I'll
just I'll just say this, and in those moments, man Zack,
you know he I mean, man, he's going to the Nations,

(01:52:40):
you know, the largest media market, and he's got to
look so all he has to do is win. That's
all He's got to go for the Jets. The simplest
thing that you can do in New York. It's just
it's so easy. Yeah, That's why I always admire the
Manning and and I a bait. Whether Eli Manning belongs

(01:53:02):
in the Hall of Fame. I think he's ultimately going
to make it because it's New York, he's a man,
and the two Super Bowls, right, But but you know,
like Eli, it's not the prettiest career in the world, right,
Like he played a lot of games like he had
just rolled out of bed on a Saturday morning after
a mega kagger at the Frats the night before. You
know what I'm saying, Right, there's a fair number of those.

(01:53:24):
There's some five interception games where it looks like that, okay,
that which is okay because he again he held up
his end of the bargain. If you draft a guy
and he wins two Super Bowls, like, you don't complain
like Giants fans are like, we're good, right, Like you know,
he did what he was supposed to do. But I'm
just not positive that that's Hall of Fame stuff. But

(01:53:46):
I admire Eli because nothing, absolutely nothing ever bothered Eli. Yeah, oh,
five interceptions, Okay, it happened. What do you want me
to do? Five touchdowns did happen? Cool? Thanks? And I
appreciate that about I celebrate his entire catalog. Jake Cole,

(01:54:08):
thanks for getting up with us and coming to hang
out here on Fox Sports Radio. Always wonderful. We'll do
it again, buddy, Jason Goal editor Gie Fansided dot com. Uh,
friend of the show. Always love our interactions. And look,
you got a friend in the room with Pat your
Patrick Willis Beef LaVar. There you go. Let's kick it
over to Ilo find out what's trending. We have to

(01:54:30):
officially conclude Jason Cole's appearance actually, guys, the number one
trending topic in the world right now, not just the
sports world, but in the entire world right now. The
developing Premier League soccer situation going on right now in England.
Fans of Manchester United, one of the most famous and

(01:54:50):
valuable sports franchises in the world, no matter the sport,
holding a huge protest before their home match today against Liverpool.
They're protesting what they say is greed by the Glazier family,
which owns the team. The Glazier family incidentally owns the
NFL Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The protest today

(01:55:11):
drew several thousand fans outside the stadium, but a number
of those fans then stormed the gates and took their
protests onto the field itself. One of the protesters spoke
to Sky Sports while they were on the field, I
want to feel the need to protests, but we have
to time to sit by the last going the way
to take him by by these freed the owners. So

(01:55:33):
we have tried to listen to the reprod you saw
about apological says how we want to want to listen
to us. I guess he's what he's gonna say. But
now what we're gonna have to do, because now we'll
be a listow No, now we're being you'll record on it.
You can hear the fothers of the pot round these
thousands of it there. We're gonna continue protesting a case
these owners, these oders, so they thought listing tools. The

(01:55:55):
field has since been cleared by police, however, get this
guy's Another group of protesters went down to the hotel
where both teams are staying and they blocked the team
busses from departing for the stadium and the kickoff of
the match has been delayed. So this is going on
as we speak, and Michael you're you're big on soccer
in the Premier League. What would you say that the

(01:56:16):
American sports equivalent? What what would the American sports equivalent
be to what's going on right now with Manchester United?
I mean if it was the Dallas Cowboys, the New
York Yankees, fans getting into Yankee Stadium or a T
and T stadium is an equivalent to something like, yeah,
I'm gonna say, you've got to go to the Hallowed Ground.
So this is, uh, well, we we played the Lelia earlier,

(01:56:40):
so you know, why don't why don't we take it
there with Wrigley Field. Thank you, Ilo, I appreciate you.
At Isaac Owen Cron coming up next. Yeah, well you
know what, sometimes you have it, uh coming up next,
open mouths say things, Uh, Mammals of the Week. LaVar
gives us his metal stand. I got a feeling, I

(01:57:01):
know one of the participants. If not too or more,
we'll see coming up next year on Fox having fun
with you here. It's Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmen alongside
LaVar Arrington, three time pro bowler. He's the All American.
That's my guy. At LaVar Arrington on Twitter at King
of the mammals on Instagram is where you find him,

(01:57:23):
and it's totally appropriate. He's got that moniker because he's
now gonna unveil some guys that are trying to ascend
to the throne as well. It takes an eight pex
predator to properly assess situations and spot potential greatness, no
matter how big or small. LaVar Arrington puts the spotlight

(01:57:45):
on them all. These are his mammals of the weed
a memals. Yeah, so you think you got it figured out, Mike?
I think I I would put a star on it.
You're putting a star on all? Right, here we go. Well,
I'm gonna start in the boxing ring because it was
a great night of boxing last night. Bearing Carson um

(01:58:10):
Able you know Able ramos Um He upset Omar figure
Oh Jr. And And it was interesting. Um it was
such a it was such It was supposed to be
Figure ohs like get back on track fight, but but
Able was really able to figure him out. He had

(01:58:30):
like this unorthodox style going into the to the fight
and it was really entertaining. But it was really cool
watching Able um kind of figure him out and then
start to really punish him. I mean, he beat him
up pretty good. So shots out to that that performance,
that definitely is an All Mammal performance. Yeah, you had
Ruise win and then you had fights in the stands.

(01:58:52):
I don't know if you've seen those videos. There you
go and then that's that's my next man. Andy Ruise,
like he Chris Ariola an amazing fight, stayed on the outside,
stayed true to is his game plan, touched him at
the end of his jab was hitting them with someone
to um combinations that were very very effective. Um shook

(01:59:15):
Andy Ruise early on, even got an eight count I
think maybe even to two knockdowns or whatever it may
have been. But Andy Ruise, whether the storm, Um was
able to knock the ring rust off and start to
put together a very nice, nice fight and ended up
winning by decisions. So Andy Ruise, you're an All mamm

(01:59:37):
over the week for your performance. The way to push
through And my last one, I don't know if this
one breaks your heart or not, if it's what the
one that you chose or not. But Jason Tatum, I mean,
come on, you gotta you gotta think about the game.
The Celtics were down by thirty two points and he
just he just put up sixty points. That's all. Sign
them with with with Larry Bird's record sixty points in

(02:00:01):
the game and overcome thirty two point deficit. Jason Tatum,
you are an All Mammal of the Week, sir. Right on.
I figured you'd get your your Penn staters into I
didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
I did not do it. But shouts out to the
shouts out to the Hall of Mammals, Micah Parson, Jason,

(02:00:21):
no way, I will spec holding up jerseys, Uh, you know,
with maybe an inscription on him at some point at
my door. Uh, he's LaVar Harrington. I'm Mike Armen hanging
out here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday. Uh.
You do know that Mica opened up as the favorite

(02:00:42):
to win the Defensive Rookie of the Year one. Nice. Well,
he's in the proper market, and I'll tell you what
he is special. I mean he he will be a
treat to watch. I mean, people will, you know, they'll
enjoy that opportunity has knocked. Now it's time to cash
in maybe some extra Jerry bucks. All right, So that's

(02:01:03):
another joke we gotta talk about this thing in London. Next, greetings,
welcome in. It's the final hour of our shift here
Fox Sports A Radio. The line change you'll come an
hour from now. But so much going on. Fall off
from the draft continues more Aaron Rodgers chatter. Uh, the

(02:01:24):
Kentucky Derby and the fallout. We've got it all for
you here on Fox Sports Radio. My Carmon alongside the
great LaVar Arrington, pleased to work with him once again
here on a Sunday. He had a big week. I
should have asked for your draft boards because it's your
first run. It was my first run. I'm not happy
with my draft board. It was totally off. I got

(02:01:48):
like six picks right out of thirty two. Yeah, but
you know what, here's the thing, and like not to
do the one opera. I got ten, No, but I
went seven for seven out of the gate. I'm like,
what what kind of odds could I have gotten? And
then uh, Carolina screwed me when they went defense and
picked J. C. Horne. Uh, good pick, great player. Just

(02:02:10):
a uh you bet on Sam Donald go and protect
him was the thought. But hey, we also thought right
and conventional thought was also that what was going to
go to the Bengals, right, so you know, it all
started to get a little bit mucked up in there.
But that's the beauty of it, right, the chess match

(02:02:31):
that's being played. And even if we think we've got
good information or as as you do, and you and I,
you know, last year, during the entire NFL season, we're
trying to, you know, go cut through the mess, get
through the data and try to predict games and and
kind of how things are gonna play out. Same thing
with the draft. As much as you think, you know,

(02:02:51):
there's always something hiding behind door number two in the
decision making process. We talked about it a little bit
earlier with the Eagles and maybe guys not quite being
on the same page with at least one of their
draft picks. I gotta imagine that's happening in war rooms
all across the National Football League, where it becomes a
all right, we've got a battle I want offense defense.

(02:03:13):
Not quite in the draft day, um Dennis Leary fighting
with Kevin Costner, uh line, But since I love that movie,
I referenced it here. But but you still have some
of that that same back and forth where you're not
always going to be on the same page, which means
the information that's getting leaked is going to be imperfect
as well. Well, unless you're j Glazer, I would say

(02:03:38):
because it was well he was. I mean, it was
pretty amazing. I don't want to say too much because
just the way he was getting the information away it
was I just don't even want to talk about it.
Do you see the grin on his face as those
texts came in? Though, it's just that's crazy. I had
the good fortune of coming in all right, Fox Sports Radio,
we pull back the curtain, our coverage here, you can

(02:04:00):
find the podcast. Video is gonna be up. It is.
It is out there as well. You had Bucky Brooks
and you on one side of the the little uh
what do we call it the bar for lack of
a better tom, I don't want to call it a
gas that morning, uh. And then you've got Glazer and
Burkhard on the other side. And when Glazer's phone would pay,

(02:04:21):
you just get this big smile on his face. Even
it was like a Christmas present before he even saw
who it was, like he can start pulling his phone up,
like more info. SEEZ. It was amazing, man. But you know,
I really did enjoying my doing my mock draft though,
like I enjoyed doing the draft show. It was it
was really cool. I've done I've done previous you know,

(02:04:43):
prior drafts, but just doing it and in that format
and in that manner was really really exciting to do so.
And I had never done my own mock draft going
into a show. So see, there's a there's a first.
And you probably saw watched a little video on guys
that you hadn't seen a lot, right, That's that's part
of the beauty of it, right, And when we talk

(02:05:04):
about the process and getting there, just like the guys
getting to draft day, some of the inane kind of
feats that they have to go through, the innumerable interviews
and including a lot of questions that are just like,
why are we wasting my time? You're costing me money
by me sitting here. Well, you know, it's a it's

(02:05:25):
an interesting time of the year. But this is you know,
this is the it's a good thing, man, Like the draft.
I thought, you know, one thing that again I want
to talk about super quickly was the vaccinated zone, you know,
and and having fans there and having the the chairs
and the chairs and and the booze that that we're

(02:05:48):
coming like that was that was meaningful, you know that
that that was you know what us being a year
removed from what last year's looked like and how that
went down. You know, it's a lot, uh a lot
to be thankful for. And and just seeing the vaccinated
fan zone and and having the fans involved with the draft,

(02:06:11):
I thought was pretty awesome, like super awesome takeaway well
in fact that you can go get those photo opportunities
with Roger Goodell, all the guys on the stage, the legends,
the Isley Brothers hanging out. I mean, you want to
talk about smooth. You know they wear the same brand
Fedor that I do. So I'm now connected to the
Isley Brothers. That's pretty cool. And I'll take those because

(02:06:33):
I'm trying to get to halls of fame my own self.
But no, I think you're You're hit it on the head, right.
The ability for folks to get in uh in those zones,
and we saw that was the branding for all the
war rooms, right, the fully vaccinated blank war room except
for the Rams who had a little bit of an

(02:06:53):
Outbright Glazer had given us a nod to that with
the Rams on Tuesday night. Of course, they also still
had that really cool picture of Roger Goodell in that
Malibu house they were at, so that was kind of cool. Yeah,
pretty nice house there. We're gonna rent this house. Do
we have a pick on day one? Nah? But let's
go to this mallatbu House and here here's the three

(02:07:16):
D walkthrough as if I was trying to buy it.
I think I was waiting for them to say contact
realtor number. It might be coming. So it might not
have dropped yet. That might have been part of the
staging process for all right, I gotta drift from the draft.
Is something that's going on here. Man United was scheduled

(02:07:37):
to play Liverpool. Uh, still waiting to see whether the
match goes off. But protests at the old Trafford Pitch
demonstration against the Glazer family, the owners of the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, but certainly one of the key I guess

(02:07:59):
the outsiders kind of mentality. It seems, uh that that's prevailing. Right.
We've heard when the Super League had its forty eight
hours in the Sun, the proposal of all right, forget
about relegation, let's take all the money makers and let's
make more money. Uh. It's certainly got people angry and
I gas, but a lot of it was quote American

(02:08:20):
ideals that were caused causing the problems to all of this. Yes,
because the Premier League they'd never turned to profit. I
don't know if you know this. All those transfer dollars
and everything that was all funny money. So this whole,
this whole time, they've been playing with monopoly money. If
you were to listen to these protesters, so look, I

(02:08:41):
I get it, you got history, you got beef, you
don't like some of the changes going on in your sport.
Uh to a degree, yeah, I get that. But on
the whole to see what's going on here, you had
fans gathering around the court. They broke the fencing around
the stadium. We're just seeing video, uh the telecast from
NBCSN of people literally picking up the barriers and throwing

(02:09:05):
them at security guards and the police. Uh. They've had
to bring out smoke bombs in the whole nine yards.
Uh because of this this anger towards ownership demonstrations now
outside the hotel through the streets, and Woodward and others
who have been part of this, Edward Ward Vice chairman

(02:09:30):
man Chester United said, look, we're not we're not going
to try to revive this Super League proposal. Glazers bought
this for one point one billion dollars. See what a
small rinky dink operation this is back at two thousand
five dollars. Okay, think about what that is in one
the way we've seen the escalation of premier franchises, and

(02:09:54):
I don't mean just the Premier League. Think about when
when Steve Ballmer bought the Clippers and everybody bad and i'
like the l A market and these teams don't go
up for sale very often, which means yes, you're going
in and you're paying a huge premium. But now there's
the the anger that flows out of this to where

(02:10:14):
all help me understand what what's the protest? What's the
anger based off of in this purchase? Well, it's I mean, look,
they've they've owned it, you know, going on a decade
and a half at this point. But it's just the
idea of the breakaway and changing and challenging tradition. And

(02:10:36):
it's the base of it is, well, the rich trying
to get richer and leaving our traditions and the history
of this league behind, to which I respond, things change,
opportunities change. Your league has changed from when guys met
on an empty pitch filled with holes and played in

(02:10:57):
front of nobody except for a couple of folks walking
their dog through the town, right, I mean, it's it's
a different animal again. Talking about transfer dollars and the
rumors of some of the next heroes, uh that that
will move between teams and what what it costs like,
and anybody that's watched any of these teams, particularly what

(02:11:17):
you're talking about a Manchester United, you're kidding yourself if
you're suddenly gonna be mad that, oh dollars have taken
over the league, like you've turned to blind eye to it.
And it's an absolute joke to me. It's like when
whenever the we have these arguments against ownership changes and

(02:11:39):
teams leveraging against the city. If you think you have
leverage to get money towards building a stadium, why do
you not take it, especially if you can move said team,
And then now they have to weigh the cost of
loaning you money, giving you money versus the jobs and
opportunities and that sense of pride and everything that's felt there.

(02:12:00):
And I get it. As a fan, you might be
you feel a little chapped. I'm thinking of our friends
in Seattle High Uh, but maybe you get a team back.
But the reality is it's just business, right. It's like
a lot of businesses right here. California just lost seats
because of a change in population. People moved to where

(02:12:21):
it's more advantageous to them for them to set up
business or live their lives with a lower tax threshold.
That's just the way it works. Yeah. So yeah, protests continuing.
This has been going on forever, uh for the last
couple of hours, and we're just now seeing more and
more video of folks inside and outside the stadium and

(02:12:42):
walking through the streets. It is uh, well it's chaos,
uh to say the least. As as of now, no
reports of injuries or anything to that level. So at
least something positive there. But a couple of thousand people
strong when it's all said and done, um, really just
go to come against the Glazers. And maybe it's it's

(02:13:02):
exacerbated by the fact that they want a Super Bowl
to m taking your American football and applying it to football.
Let's see what I did there? Uh yeah, No, I'm
smart that way or something like that. Uh, he's LaVar
Arrington Outbike Carmen or Comedy Alive. I hear from the
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(02:13:45):
the process changed forever? That's next on Fox. Oh, want
to build up Mike Carmen alongside LaVar Arrington. This is
Fox Sports Sunday. Just us tell you man, I hate
seeing headlines that just say anti Glazer protests because we've
been talking a lot about our guy J. Glazer, Mr

(02:14:07):
Perfection all morning as related to the NFL Draft different,
a little little different Glazer. Uh. Yeah, we'll keep an
eye on that, uh as as we roll. So, Uh
we're here on on Fox Sports Radio. We appreciate you
all being out there, uh nationwide across the globe on
the podcast. Uh, just running down Fox Sports Weekends. Arrington

(02:14:33):
in harmon up on Game with LaVar, T J houshman
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Speak for yourself uh and yelling at folks uh. Well
now debates healthy Louder debates It's all good things? Did

(02:14:57):
I did? I encapsulate that? Okay, good? You've not been
doing first things first a lot more lately earlier. Yeah,
a little bit earlier. But I will be down co
hosting speak for yourself, believe Wednesday and Thursday of this week.
There you go. That would be good. See the budding
TV star. He won't need me on radio anymore soon. En.

(02:15:20):
Radio is my jam, man, It's my jam, your jam. Yeah.
Who doesn't love a good jar of jam? Uh? You know?
Major League Baseball uh is in full effect. I got
our our Dodger friends that are a little ringing of
the hands because the offense has has been lackluster at best.

(02:15:41):
So we have that circling in the background as we
we transition the sporting calendar as it does. Now that
the draft's done, we'll get into mini camps and all
that fun. We got the final couple of weeks of
the NBA season ahead of us, But before we leave
the draft full on, LaVar, I'm wondering if this pro
says the way the pre draft workouts and not workouts

(02:16:06):
in a lot of cases on the combine and all
of those things. Does it change forever? Do we just
go back to pre pandemic m O in terms of
all of the old processes. Do you think there's any
learning that comes out of this that maybe changes the game? Uh?

(02:16:27):
I think you have to evolve. I think you have
to look at what the pandemic created and how the
processes were put in place to handle, you know, moving forward.
I just think that this was a wake up call,
you know, of sorts you gotta take into consideration how
you're doing things, if you're you know, doing it at

(02:16:51):
at a high level, if they're you know, our other options.
I think that that this pandemic raise those those questions,
raise those top picks, and you know, I think in
some cases, you know, I think there are things that
will be changed, and I think in other cases, you say,
you know, the sooner things get back to more normal

(02:17:12):
um ways, of of how things are that it will
be actually kind of what it was before. It will
hold whole true um through through this pandemic. But I mean, yeah,
absolutely things are going to be done differently, you know,
the way the way media has done, the way workouts

(02:17:32):
are done, the way training is done, the everything. I mean,
there's always going to be a variation of of what
it was before we went into the pandemic. Trying to
figure out where those operational efficiencies are. I know a
lot of friends on their places of employment are trying
to call them back to the office and they're saying,

(02:17:53):
I ain't going. I mean, I'm in the studio now,
but I gotta I gotta say. I'm watching traffic outside
my window early on a Sunday morning here in southern California,
and I'm certainly not eager for that evening traffic from
my seven to eleven PM Pacific Coast UH time slot

(02:18:15):
with Jason Smith. I can tell you that we may
have to have some negotiations as related to that, my friend,
but I know that that's a big deal folks saying, hey,
I can work virtually so maybe trying to move out
of a high cost area again. I mentioned it in
the last in the last segment and the discussion about

(02:18:37):
the Glazers and this protest in the Man United game.
The the idea that I can go do my job
in a state where my taxes are less and my
cost of living goes down. So should I be allowed
to do that even if I'm not, you know, now
able to go in a car and drive down the
street to a physical office, so the rules change and

(02:19:00):
obviously cost benefit analysis goes through it. You know, did
you get enough access to the athletes for the draft process,
either in person to see them through workouts or to
have those discussions, because you know, zoom calls are one
thing versus sitting face to face with somebody. Yeah, right,

(02:19:22):
much different different animal as it were with with that regard,
I mean, for for you knowing you were gonna go
atop the draft and you didn't have to sit and
talk to everybody, did you set and talked to everybody
who wants to talk to me? Even if you know,
because you always have to look at it as when
you're doing job interviewing, you treat it almost as though

(02:19:45):
it's like a co op or or like a workshop,
because you never know if you may see them in
the future, so you don't you don't brush any of
them off. You know, I won't be there when you
you draft me, you still go see them all. So, yeah,
everybody who wanted to meet with me, I went, what
was the worst question that you were asked? I wish

(02:20:07):
I could tell you the worst thing that was said
to me, but it's not appropriate, so I'll leave it alone.
But I mean, I don't know, I don't really remember
all of the questions, different things that you know, people
want to get to know you as a person more
so than anything else, and those those those scenarios. That's
probably the biggest thing is just who are you as

(02:20:29):
a as a personality when you're you're doing those those
interviews with the teams. I did that. I mean, it's
kind of the Bill Belichick thing that was being questioned
a lot the last couple of processes right off, like
why would they send someone to go to player XS
workout well, because you don't know, yeah, right, it's a

(02:20:52):
weird winding road and nobody like nobody's the wrong word,
but many players don't start and finish in the same
right and where we see a lot of guys changing
elements even the greats of the game over time, So
you don't know when that conversation or that that impression
it's like, hey, you know, we we need some depth

(02:21:13):
at position X. This guy, I think camp became available.
He made an impression on me here there or whatever
draft research you did. So uh it it has certainly
has some institutional knowledge base that you can draw from
if you're doing your due diligence. Likewise, as a player,
you you've come to find you know, you're you have

(02:21:35):
no control over where you're drafted. But once you hit
free agency and you have the opportunity to choose, there
might be a few teams you can check off from
those pre draft conversations, assuming the same people are in charge.
So it goes both ways, but advantage team most of
the time. Here's where you try to find leverage on

(02:21:56):
your own side. Uh, he's a LaVar Arran said on
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(02:22:38):
in Green Bay, but first it's Isaac Lowenkron and there's
a lot going on in our sporting universe, Michael and LaVar.
Chaos is the operative world the number one trending story
in the world right now? What is going on as
we speak in Manchester, England where today's Premier League soccer
match between Manchester United and Liverpool, which have been scheduled

(02:23:00):
to kick off one hour ago, has been delayed indefinitely
after several thousand Manchester United fans held a protest outside
the stadium against the ownership of the team, which led
to several hundred of the protesters storming the gates of
the stadium and taking their protests onto the field itself. Now,
Manchester United is owned by the Glazer family, which incidentally

(02:23:24):
also of course owns the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay
Buccaneers of the NFL. Here is how the scene sounded,
as described by Arlow White on NBC s N When
the protesters were on the field at the stadium, we
heard a couple of loud bangs as well as fireworks
went off. Then all of a sudden there was a
loud rattling sound and then the sound of voices getting

(02:23:48):
closer and closer and low and behold a wait till
right hand side the fans started pouring down the steps.
Here in this Bobby Charlton standing onto the pitch and
you can see now one of two fans infiltrating the
media areas. I'd estimate between four and five are on
the pitch. We've got yellow and green flares of course,
the disaffected Manchester United fans who have been chancing. We

(02:24:11):
want the clazes out. The field has since been cleared
by police. There was at least one injury guys that
I observed, to either a police officer or a security
guard who has spotted with a swollen left eye and
a bleeding cut on his left cheek. But Michael and LaVar.
The story at this moment as we speak, is not
at the stadium, but rather about three miles from the
stadium at the Lowry Hotel. That's where both teams are staying.

(02:24:36):
And other large group of protesters is at the hotel
and they blocked the team buses from leaving. So as
of right now, both teams are still stuck at the
Lowry Hotel. How much do you love the game if
you're doing this anyway, that's up for debate. People around
the hotel say the police have just put in place
what is called a section thirty four Anti Social Behavior

(02:24:58):
dispersal order, and like that section thirty four, I give
those to my kids all the time. The latest word
the BBC just reporting that discussions are continuing as to
whether or not the match will take place today between
the two clubs and match officials and representatives from the
Premier League. So they are five hours ahead of Eastern time,

(02:25:19):
so as we speak it is right now just after
five thirty local time, but a very fluid story still
developing as we speak. Fellas, that's insane. I'll tell you, uh,
billions of dollars franchises and they're now figuring out it's
about Monty LaVar. Sorry to interrupt, guys, but as passionate

(02:25:40):
as American sports fans are, nothing like that has really
ever happened in North American professional sports that I can remember,
has it? I mean there've been walkouts, uh, you know,
paper bags over people. Yeah, I mean I remember in
Baltimore a lot of a lot of anger, you know,
for the Orioles and mismanagement of that organism Haitian uh

(02:26:01):
via certain radio hosts and and locals, But nothing to
this level. M hm. That's pretty outrageous. Man. It's a
lot of a lot of a lot of stuff going on. Yeah,
it's I'm like, is there some other parts of the
story I'm missing? Because if it's just about recognizing that
people that make money want to make more money, I

(02:26:22):
think people should look at their own bank accounts. Did
you change jobs at any point in your career because
you're gonna make more money than than You're part of
the problem, too, right, if you're perceiving it to be
a problem, terrible and well, there's gotta be right. It's
the best drama plays out for us each and every

(02:26:44):
night we had drama in Major League Baseball. We'll get
to that in a moment. But Aaron Rodgers reportedly will
not return uh to the Packers under the current GM.
Brian guten kunst Uh that he needs to be fired
if he were to consider coming back to play. I
really want to see these words cross the lips of

(02:27:05):
Aaron Rodgers, I who wore the name tag of turred
ferguson the famous SNL Jeopardy sketch from all those years ago.
But that was part of his uh Kentucky Derby attire yesterday,
So congratulations to him on that. But they're quote very
aware of the issue, is what Mark Murphy, of the

(02:27:28):
team president said. It's like, thanks, thanks Mark, But it's curious, right,
Obviously the play calling is one thing, but when it
when it's all said and done, hey you'll find another
GM Like if this really is the cost of business
of getting Aaron Rodgers to just come back to work.
Not that you want guys pulling power plays all over

(02:27:48):
the place, but most of them are haven't sniffed a
league m VP or get considered as one of the
all time greats. But is that another smoke screen? Well,
and that's just a right, how many light you're going
on here? You know booby trap. Yeah, you want admiral
Admiral act bar kind of it's a trap more more

(02:28:09):
um more. Goonies are nicely done. So booby trap, booty trap,
you short raping trap? Yeah, from the when he was
in Yeah. Anyway, when when I think of what's going
on right now, again, I don't think if they got
rid of the GM, I don't think that that solves

(02:28:31):
the issue. I do not, And I think at this
point Aaron Rodgers wants to leave Green Bay, and you know,
we can sit there and we can say that that
maybe loyalty or working it out, figuring it out should

(02:28:51):
be the main focus. But I just don't get the
feeling that Aaron Rodgers main focus is to be a
Green Bay packer anymore. And I think that it's more
or less based upon him not I just I just
I just think he has he feels as though he
has better options for what it is he wants to

(02:29:13):
get done going somewhere else. So I don't see there
being a resolution where Aaron comes back and he's ever
happy coming back, if he's ever happy being there. So
now if I'm green Bay, now that becomes the biggest
issue that you have to overcome and create a solution
for and you would have to assume that the best

(02:29:35):
solution would be to try to figure out how you
can get the most for what you can get and
letting him go and know that you gotta start to rebuild.
And if Jordan's love is who you thought he was,
then you're gonna find out very very soon or if not,
it becomes a rebuild because you would have to assume

(02:29:56):
the glue that has held everything together in Green Bay
and why they've been able to be competitive for as
long as they have has been because of Aaron Rodgers.
I'll be really honest, showing my Chicago hometown some love.
I brought a bottle of champagne into the studio on Thursday. Well,
I mean, if he leaves, that's finally a division uh,

(02:30:18):
devoid of Brett far than Aaron Rodgers, which means that
Jordan's love has to be great too. I found it
interesting I saw this tweet uh that that made the
rounds two. Uh. If he goes away right and leaves
the Packers, you will have had Bart Star, Brett Farve,
and Aaron Rodgers all will have played sixteen years for
the Packers. How crazy is that that's it's a long

(02:30:43):
time in one spot for certain uh, and a lot
of greatness that we've seen, which is why people get
all uh angsty and angry when you start talking about
the number of Super Bowls one and the number of
near missus uh that come through Green Bay as well.
But I'm with you, there's so much more order the story,
and part of it is just like all the draft talk.

(02:31:04):
It's like until Aaron Rodgers actually says something, because right
now he's painted as just the pettiest, most angry man
going uh. You know in a lot of these reports
like I don't I don't know what's been said to
him or if if there was anything promised to him
and discussions about drafts in the past, or if he's
not consulted and that's part of the reason he's upset

(02:31:27):
with them and wants out. Sometimes you just want to
do start to there's there's a lot that goes to it.
Let me get one baseball story in for you quickly,
because I want to see if this ever made its
way to the gridiron A thanning yesterday you got the
Mets and the Phillies getting after it, benches, emptying trash,
talking and everything that you would normally come to expect.
Jose Alvarado, reliever for the Phillies, thumped his glove and

(02:31:51):
was gesturing at Dominic Smith powerhouse. Uh, he struck him out,
tying run on in the eighth Smith pulled off his helmet,
seemed ready to fight. Everybody spills out, breaks it up, etcetera.
After the game, talking to Smith, quote, I don't mind
people pimp and strikeouts and pimp and stuff off the field.
I've never been a player like that, but I don't

(02:32:12):
mind it. I love it. But him pointing at me,
coming at me stuff like that, I'm a grown ass man.
Come meet me that if you really have a problem,
we can handle it. And he kept going. He goes,
he can meet me in the tunnel tomorrow if he
really wants to get after it. Do you ever have
any of that on the gridiron, that that that got
close to coming to blows out? Bro, There have been

(02:32:35):
plenty and plenty. I don't know how it is now,
but uh, after after game tunnel fights that that was commonplace.
Did you did you have that? You keep getting that
you will be blown away by some of the people
that got into those fights. Do we get to include
that in the book. I don't know. That's a little

(02:32:58):
bit incriminating. I wouldn't want to put people out there.
Can we can we put it in a movie and
claim it's fictionalized. The names have been changed to protect
the guilty. He's LaVar Arrington. I'm Mike Carmon. This is
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, having some fun with you.
Thanks for being along for the ride this morning. Coming

(02:33:21):
up next, we're gonna go find a couple of wins.
We've got some good things coming out of the Draft
and the sporting world at large. That's an ex not
Fox Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmon
alongside the King of the Mammals himself. That's how you
find him on Instagram. He's a three time pro bowler,
an All American. It's LaVar Arrington. See I just heard

(02:33:43):
the network promo talking about that draft coverage. It's one
of our wins of the week. Let's find a couple others.
Flocker room squabbles, struggling teens, cheaters and no account owners.
There's so much negativity in sports that it can do
in your day, but not Mike harmatt He's here to
shine a light on the gooded sports with a simple mantra,

(02:34:06):
find your wins. Al Right, first off, we gotta just
celebrate as we've done today, LaVar. I think the celebration
of having fifty thousand people for the draft, fifty thousand
people at Churchill Downs, for little Kentuctor Derby life, as
Jeff Goldbloom told us in Jurassic Park, finds a way,

(02:34:30):
and bit by bit we're getting back to bigger events.
See people gathering for a nice tasty beverage or four
wearing their funky hats to the racetrack, whatever the case.
Maybe uh, the spectacle that was in Cleveland was just
a glorious um celebration of sports, camaraderie, community, and it's

(02:34:54):
it's in sharp contrast today too. Well you you've got
man you in Liverpool match now po spons the battles
against the ownership and the Glazer family again, NFL and
the ep L ties there as it were, but people
crowding the streets whatever. So while we're celebrating, we're also

(02:35:14):
mindful that fandom and fanaticism sometimes push to the other direction.
And that's what we're watching here as this continues to develop.
I want to celebrate. Uh. And he would have been
in an Iowa minute, but Sam was out, you know,
communing with nature. Uh. Former Northern Iowa tackle Spencer Brown,
selected in the third round by the Buffalo Bills, went

(02:35:40):
through a table after hearing his name called to welcome
himself to Bill's mafia. Well, if nothing else, he showed
he could take a bump and maybe there's a w
W E E career after it. But you want to
talk about getting over in your new home town, own
man that that's that's how you do it. Six eight

(02:36:04):
three eleven. Boy, Yeah, he opted out of the spring season. Uh. Yeah,
so it's good. It's gonna be fun. I think anybody
embracing the new home is is certainly a big deal. Uh.
There was something going around on Twitter yesterday. There was

(02:36:25):
a date that started being chronicled on YouTube, including the
Arizona Diamondback. Someone tweeted at them saying, Hey, my roommates
on a date. Can we see how it's going? And
then they kept checking in on the couple throughout the date.
How do you feel about that? Would you feel intrusive?
I think you celebrated because you probably got some swag

(02:36:45):
and maybe some dinner coupons floated your way through social media,
you know what I mean. Uh, take what you can.
And then we got the Marvel NBA game coming up.
That'll be the Warriors and the Pelicans. That is on
the four. Uh So celebrating a little bit earlier because
again in the face of this Manchester United Liverpool thing

(02:37:07):
in the scope of the NFL draft, I celebrate commerce
and where you can figure out ties to other properties
and promote and sell, sell, sell LaVar like a right,
celebrate up on game and the growth of your show.
Ted am de noon on Fox Sports Radio on Saturdays,

(02:37:28):
me yelling at Jason Smith for four hours a night
here seven to eleven Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio.
Wonderful deal man, wonderful deal. Now we're having all sorts
of fun. You can buy our club, but you can't
buy our heart and soul, all right, Nobody tried to.
They just tried to reach deeper into your pocket. That

(02:37:51):
is the sign being shown and displayed as part of
this match protest going on LaVar. That's I'm not going
to touch that. You can buy our what, but you
can't buy what. You can buy our club, but you
can't buy our soul. Mhm okay, but you will never

(02:38:15):
take away off freedom. Hey man, I've been known to
paint my face before. It's uh forever. In a video
game n C double A. Uh, you can go back
and look at it. It's me and my band of
idiots that they use for the crowd shot. But it's
just it's just an interesting dichotomy, right, the celebration of

(02:38:39):
these scope of the NFL and the globe global reach
that it's trying to have, and then you have the
ownership of the Glazers being protested on the heels of
the failed Super League attempt. It's just in everybody's business
and everybody's life. There there are very few people that

(02:38:59):
just decide, you know what, you pay me enough, I
don't need more. In other words, I've never met one
of those people. Yeah, I don't think i've ever. I
don't think anyone's ever came to the conclusion, Oh, yep,
that's enough. Like I'm a billionaire today, Yep, that's enough.
Like for two, it's not the premise of the amount

(02:39:21):
of money being it's when it's never enough. It's because
of it's your level of achievement. It's always the constant
pursuit of of of achievement. And that's where I think
people have to understand that, you know, the money is
just a product. You know, that's just like a reward
of of what it is. But ultimately it's it's the

(02:39:44):
feeling of the pursuit. Mike, Well, but that's just it, right,
It's another chip in the I achieved this because of
what it, what I've done, and that I've earned it. Right,
so that next contract is a show of respect. How
often do we hear that I needed to you respected?
And why guys grouse about the franchise tag, which you know,

(02:40:05):
outside looking in you like you're being paid by one
of the top five's Like no, no no, no, but I
want to be I want to be treated differently. I
don't want it to go to the hey, we went
to the averages. I want to be negotiated and told
I'm special. It's different. It's just a psychology. It is
a psychology. I'm there with you. Yeah, And so some

(02:40:26):
of these stories just leave me scratching my head, going,
all right, I get it. The zeros on your paycheck
may be different, but the philosophy and pursuits I don't
think are are as incongruous, uh and dive, you know,
just divergent in their paths as some would have you believe.

(02:40:46):
As I'm watching all these guys still running around the
stadium and the smoke bombs at all, it's just a
very odd scene, uh, you know it juxtaposed from the
celebrations that we've had. Even talking about fighting in a tunnel,
I mean, is some different world, because again that's just
proving your dominance and wanting to achieve so interesting times.

(02:41:07):
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