05/29/2021 - FOX Sports Saturday with Kelvin Washington and Cuttino Mobley - Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Coast is bright and early. Uh still morning out on
the East coast of Good morning to everyone. A lot
of NBA action to get to. And I'm glad that
I have somebody who played many years in the NBA,

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because there's some questions that I want to ask you, Katino,
as a professional athlete a couple of different ways. Of course,
what we've seen happen over the last couple of days
in the NBA. But I'm not even talking about just
the basketball, talking about fans, interactions with fans. I want
to get to that in a little bit. Also want
to get to your thoughts on with Nao Yasaki said
a couple of days ago with regards to UM the

(01:05):
tournament out in Paris, French Open, and how she mentioned,
you know, she doesn't really really want to deal with media.
We'll get to that in a little bit as well.
Uh so reactions will I guess we contino, man, we
can start with what we saw last night and work
our way more broader with the playoffs. Since I haven't
really spoken to you. I did have you on my

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show out here in l A last week, but so
I want to start out with, Uh, you and I
were just talking family, right, Uh, you know, enjoy spending
time with him, and sometimes you you gotta order, you know,
a bunch of people coming over a man cotino, what
would you order? Let me order the fifty piece. And
that's what Jayson Tatum gave the Nets a fifty piece

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last night. And I'm watching him and I'm knowing that
we're gonna do the show on that show and actually
right app here on the TV's in front and look
and he's given Brooklyn all they can handle. Um and
he's doing this without Jalen Brown. As the Celtics win
on one nineteen to make this at least somewhat of
a serious uh, and not to mention Game one they
were they were in it as well. So this with
that victory, I mean, you can you can look at

(02:06):
the South and say, hey, they have a puncher's chance
if that puncher is gonna give you fifty every night.
But I was watching Jayson Tatum before Kobe Bryant passed.
We knew they had, they were growing a relationship, and
a lot of people say, may he kind of got
young code the way he does a lot of professional moves. Uh,
and then other people have compared them to I think,
is there a little bit of tea macking him? From

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the size, the ability to shoot over you, the post
you if I need to to handle get to the rack, Like,
who when I'm watching this young guy reminding you that
he's only like twenty three years old, who is Jason Tatum?
I think Jayson Tatum is his own Uh. First of all,
thanks for having me on with you. Um, I missed
you guys a lot. But Jason Tatum uh is his

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own he he he. I think because we would kind
of give him that Tracy McGrady comparison. Is because he's tall.
Um his footworkers like Kobe's like it's getting there right
because he's He's watched Kobe. Kobe's his favorite. And you
know with with Jason Tatum, to me, he's just extra talented.

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He's I mean, he's six ten. He has a fade
away as the footwork and at a very young age.
I was speaking to somebody the other day, where were
we at? I forget where I was at. Oh I
was at um um the facility where I work out
at um up in Westlake called Proactive, and the younger
kids were there, Jalen Green and Um the kid from Baylor,

(03:40):
Mitchell uh Dabrian Mitchell Okay, and the move that they
were making at that young age. We are pros. Weren't
even doing that until we in Midwe midway into our
pro career. So these kids are advanced when it comes
to footwork training. They get to they get to literally

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watch and play against prose at a very young age,
so then you know that they did much better. So
when you're looking at Jayson Tatum, if you know, I said, listen,
I love Paul Pierce. Paulse Pierce, one of the best
three has to ever played the game. Uh, Paul Pierce,
you know, offense was incredible. But Jayson Tatum comes to
Boston and he has that that right cast around him.

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He's a problem. So is Jalen Brown that right cast?
Or is it just give him a little bit more
time because what we do what we do is, you know,
we like to say, especially teams like the Sectors who've
had multiple championships obviously bazillion before, you know, in the
sixties and in the eighties. Um, but we look at him,
we say, hey, we've given you to three years together.

(04:45):
We let allowed your guys to grow, but continue as
you know, you just mentioned you went into the league
at what how old? You felt like, all right, I
got a good understanding and then you continue to grow. Right,
these guys are coming in at literally eighteen nineteen and
then we give him to three years and we're like, well,
he's a this you know, he's already a bus or
he's not good enough for we gotta gets two things

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to that. How crazy is this when you look at
the kid coming in and see when Kobe came in,
it wasn't a lot of eighteen year olds. When Kevin
Kevin Garnett came in, it wasn't a lot of eighteen
year olds because the transition of guys leaving school and
coming into the league. Now there's guys that they're playing
that's maybe two or three years older, did not that

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much older. So now when you get one year in,
if you're super talented, you I mean, you show right away,
but you get that one year in into yourself, you're like, oh,
I can play with y'all. You know what I mean?
Because my rookie year, I had Scottie Pippen, Charles Barkley, Kimolajian,
and I'm practicing with Scottie Pippen every single day. So

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then that after the summer, after that, Nick van Exel,
San Crousell, Antonio McNeice, Steve for everybody, I'm killing. It
didn't matter. I didn't care who I was playing with
Scottie Pippen. I don't care who you are sitting there.
And that was just a few months with a pro,
with a real pro. So it doesn't once you get
in there, man, it doesn't even matter after a while.

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So okay, So then what we see is with Jalen
Brown and the Celtics. I mean, because a lot of
people are saying obviously they don't believe they're gonna be
able to beat the net. So then they starts the
conversation of do you trade one of them? What not?
You ain't trade and Datum, but you trade Jalen. I
wasn't trying to get rid of Marcus Smart, who had
a very nice game for them, by the way, twenty
three points for him. Uh, he's just kind of that
glue guy that Draymond for them. Every team needs that guy.

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Um And so you know, or do you just ride
this thing out and let him grow? I mean, you're
right there, You're you're competitive. It's gonna be interesting that
And that's what the playoffs do, right, They start to
expose not only players, but organizations and and and and narratives.
Because we'll get to probably coming up here next the
Clippers and and again if they lose. But the Clippers

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are like the Boston Celtics in a way where you
have an amazing two in the three. But what the
Clippers have who is one of my favorite point guards
ever is Rondo. Now, if you had a young Rondo
with the Boston Celtics, if you had a young Rondo
with the Los Angeles Clippers, now, those teams wins wins

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better right those players of the twos and threes. Uh,
the decision making is a lot more Chris because Rondo
has the ball the majority of time and all I
need to do is this. That's it. Similar to what
we see happen in with Phoenix, with Chris Paul being
there exactly right, you're not doing so much. And when
you have that point guard, the Chris Paul's in the
roundos of the world, even the Lebron James in the world,

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Anthony Davis, when you get thirty four and the eleven
and have five blocks, it means something. When you're in
New Orleans, you got that, you're losing, you get here,
you do it here. With Lebron James, you win because
he cleans up everything else. He makes your life so
much easier. No disrespect to a d because I love him.
He's one of the best ever. But it's just what
it is when it comes to these type of point guards.

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And if Boston had that round right, because Kimba Walker
is great, but when you have three scoring guards like that,
it takes the rhythm. Look look at look at look
at Brooklyn nets last night forty one thirty nine who
suffered Kyrie irving. All three of them are not gonna kill.
That's not how it's gonna work. You. All three of
them may have thirty, thirty and thirty, but one of

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them are going to shoot poorly. It's just what it is.
Let me, I'm glad you asked, you brought that up,
So I want to get to the next side of it. Right.
Everybody's like, oh, nobody can beat the next stir in touch.
But again this one game and a guy had to
go for fifty to beat him and only beat him
by six. So I don't want to make it as
if you know, uh, they're they're they're all of a
sudden on a losing trend. You got forty minutes from Katie.
Katie did what he did? I mean, look thirteen or

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twenty four. I mean, he's just the most efficient score
I've ever seen in real life. Um, thirty nine for
him you mentioned hard and forty one hard and had
been the kind of the guy who had been uh
giving up parts of his game if you will, allowing
Kyrie to cook some he goes for forty one as
well as tennis sisters doing and again very eighteen seven

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or twelve from three. Kyrie wasn't horrible, but he had
the worst of the game. The three sixteen, um just
a bad game. Just take them going for fifty a
fifty piece? Or do you see some type of way
that the Celtics are Hell, even the Sixers or or
someone else can beat this team. Do you see somehow
do you attack that team? Is is what I'm curious of. Well,

(09:23):
listen to the Celtics. It is unique, right what you have?
Uh three amazing maybe the top five probably one on
one players ever ever think about it, James Harden, Kyrie
Irving and the greatest score I've ever seen, just the
best score ever. Even though Lebron James has average points

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for seventeen straight years, no one else has done that. Now,
I know, I know that's that's that has made its
way around. And I even argued that back at the
at work the other day. But when I the difference
is I all you and you go to the free
throw line. I'm ninety plus percent with Katie for his career,
So that that adds to that kind of bumps him

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above Lebron. Uh hey, shoot this three. He's shooting forty
plus percent. Lebron's at like thirty two or something like that.
So those are the extra elements. But you're absolutely right.
We undersell Lebron scoring the man we think not Listen,
Lebron is not Katie when it comes to scoring, but
but Katie is not Lebron when it comes to just everything. Well, no,

(10:28):
I don't think there's been a history of I don't
think there's been anybody as talented Leron and everything, and
maybe maybe mcgiver, like that's the only person who can
like do whatever what you need you breaking breaking this door,
You need me to give me the rubber band, right,
you need to get your boy out of jail. You
need she's having a heart attack here. You guys got it,
Like Muver and Lebron are the only people who can
have the Swiss Army knife can do everything. I mean, no, Lebron,

(10:50):
it's actually a third, which is why I tell people
Jordan is the greatest. Lebron is the best I've ever seen,
just as far because you mentioned his ability to if
you watched the game aime just just two days ago,
I mean, just the way for him to be like,
all right, what do we need? All right, we need
some buckets for me. Let me go, let me get
a d Okay, Carusoe's got some nice cuts, let me
let me drop him something. I mean, it's amazing. No, actually,

(11:14):
I tweeted out that we have to not get fatigued
by Lebron. We we are. We are fatigued. I want
to and it happens in multiple things. I do want
to throw this theory at you, and maybe I'll throw
that at to you next. And speaking of the Lakers,
we gotta get to that game. So many NBA uh
storylines that have happened as well, looking forward to get
into and looking forward to you hopping in as well.
If you want to call into the show, you can

(11:35):
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(12:19):
on this Saturday morning. Good morning to you. Hopefully you
have had a good one so far, whatever you've done, whatever,
you're a cup of Joe t What are you? You?
Probably a health now, wasn't it wasn't that canteen over there?
What you got going on? I got, uh, I got
a bit of some water, a little a little sprinkle
of limon right, and then I got my it's called
liquid I vs. Powder. See, I knew. I knew one

(12:40):
sold or just a regular coffee over there, right, I
knew he had to have. You know, I don't drink coffee, bro,
What do you drink? Sea moss? I see one of
those sea moss, a seaweed. He's one of those people.
You don't I hate living in l A's Let me
tell you something for people that's that's get in that
gym with me back when I'm back. You know what
I'm saying, be like Batman in black at them. You
know what I'm saying, Well, I can't be black, Adam

(13:05):
Black act black. Yeah, I don't know that. Maybe maybe
he like maybe Steph Curry Brothers. Maybe that's what's going on. Uh.
You know, moving to California and you you're a Philly
guy right outside of Detroit now Michigan, Midwest, you do
something that I think people can relate to listening if

(13:26):
they don't live on maybe a coast in New York
or l A. When you bring a box of doughnuts
into anywhere, home, a party, of venue, at work, the
doughnuts are gone in three minutes. Right when I moved
to California, I've never felt more like Sherman Clump from
the Nutty Professor, more fat in my life. Then when

(13:47):
I went to grab just a doughnut like everybody else
would do across the country in forty eight states except
New York and maybe California, and everyone said, and I'm
talking about guys right now. I'm talking to guys. I'm
not talking about women. I get it. I'm like I'm
tightening when I started seeing grown big man six to forty, like,
oh yeah, no, man, I did need donuts? Who do

(14:09):
I need donuts? Or? Shoot? Do you have a knife?
A knife? What it's a doughnut? Yeah? No, I'm a
canting half. You want to he dude, you hate catino? Man?
You want to split it donut? Let me tell you something.
I'll be forty years old this this summer. No one
in life has ever split a donut. He's playing no
donut and I'm moving Here was the first time I've

(14:30):
seen grown man with nine killing the quarters of donuts.
I killed donuts, kill them. So it's this place around
not too far from the house, and I go and
get like twelve of them joints right, and then I'm
telling you, man, listen, they may not last the rest
of the night. Because my son is twenty one. My daughter,
she's seven. She ain't playing no games with donuts. She
takes them all, okay, So they get it from daddy.

(14:52):
Oh yeah, yeah. But it's funny because when I was younger,
my stepfather used to have all the goodies at the house.
So it would be Rashid Wallace and be Alvin Williams,
be anybody come to the house. But then the funny
thing is like we had twelve guys on our basketball
team and for my my high school basketball team, and
sheating it wasn't high school bas it was on my
summer league teams, but the high school basketball team eight

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or nine of those eight eight of those guys are cops.
But women, I was younger, and he was eating my doughnuts,
I'm like, damn, I need to get more donuts. Come.
That's what it was. Let me find out you are
undercover agents. That's why you loved Ryan Chris. Let me
find out is an undercover cop, and that's why he's

(15:36):
already done it. We didn't know it. My god, shout
out to my guys, oh man. But yeah, So that
moving here was like moving to California. For those of
you who are thinking about it and you're from the Midwest,
especially or the South, especially where you don't really care
you eat what you eat. Hey, if it's good, I'm
eating it. Let me tell you an advance. Get your
life together now, because when you move here, you're gonna
never feel as fat. Even if you're not fat, you're

(15:56):
gonna never feel as fat as you are when you
move here because everywhere you go, you throw a party, y'all. Yeah,
you're like, why do we have so much food? Oh? Man,
could you come to find out six and your twelve
friends you invited with vegan? You didn't even know? A't
that crazy job? I'm talking like, man, listen, it has
been straight thugs. Like I know, he's probably shot somebody

(16:18):
in his life, and he's like, yeah, man, I'm vegan.
What do you mean you're vegan? Yeah? You know what
I'm saying because about you know, if I eat by
eating any more of that, my blood pressure go up
and then I don't know what I might have somebody,
So I just try to keep it eating Some'm just
do a little bit of celery. I'm just like, man exactly, man, yeah, no, no,
hey man, no you got celery sticks? Celery? What do
you mean? Do I gotta back of chips and some

(16:38):
dip over there? Yeah? I had. Now. The funny thing is,
I'm like half that person, now, you know what I mean, Like,
I'm not fully there. I haven't fully committed, but I
am increasingly. Yes, that had five guys. That's good. I
have some five guys today. I gotta go run. But
I asked five guys. It's not mad at that, just
don't don't have donuts today, and then five guys yesterday,

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and that was the weekend though it's like Memorial Day
week I don't but I gotta sit around a little bit,
you grilling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta do it. My
wife wing grocery shopping. By the way, when she goes
grocery shopping, it's like, okay, you shot. I told her
and said we don't have to go row shop again
until July. It was at the game plan because this
is this is ridiculous when you overdid it. When she

(17:23):
has to mind you, we are eight months pray I'm
having another baby July. Thank you, brother, thank you. She
had to have groceries on her lap because there's no
more room in the car. Like that's how much growth
that Cosco? That Cosco? Yeah, she's out of line. When
she says, hey, i'll be hoping a minute, help me unload,
I'm like I literally get upset. Yo, right yo, my

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mom coming listen, um, tell you tell you, tell your son,
tell him come on downstairs help me. I'm like, damn,
what do you get? Yeah, that's that's at least twenty
five minute things. All right, We're gonna get back to Luca.
Dante's here in a second, because we got you and
I off air, we're talking about him. Uh. I believe
Luca is the best player in the NBA not named Lebron.
And I know you got kd you got Steph, you

(18:07):
got be honest, you got two other guys, Anthony Davis,
James Harden, whomever. Look. I saw Lebron James play and
at a certain point I became his biggest fan, and
I was like, Okay, he's just different. Right if you
wanted Lebron, Michael George the Grace of all time or
Kobe Okay, well Lebron's right there, one to three, however
you want to put him. But nobody can do what

(18:28):
I've seen Lebron James, do you fought? I mean Kobe Bryant.
Someone else could do what he did and did it better,
which was Jordan's I've never seen anybody do with Lebron.
And every year about the last decade, they keep wanting
to make the next Lebron. Right, it was Andrew Wiggins
in high school, remember that Wiggins. Uh, it was o J. Mayo. Oh,
he's the next Lebron and I remember kids this because

(18:50):
this was right in the era when like so uh
like YouTube and everybody was starting to blow up a
little too early, you know what I mean, and everybody
was the next Lebron. Then we find out, no, he's good,
he ain't that, Zion really good, he ain't that. And
then all of a sudden, Luca comes in and not
with much fanfare. They were saying he's the best in Europe.
He'd won, you know, m VP of Europe for a

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couple of times. But and I watched this kid play
and I'm like, let me tell you something, man, y'all
can keep who name him who? No nobody is better
than him, and you and I talked about it, can
do any and everything. Now he did take an LPs.
He lost yesterday. He had his squad. Uh. The Clippers
kindly got a much day to win one eighteen to
one on eight big games. From By the way, are

(19:31):
we gonna still call the man pan pandemic, p uh
bubble whatever? All the PS pick a p uh down
with op P. I mean, we called him everything, and
yet he's playing very well. Paul George all right twenty
nine for him, really effective. And when they were getting
They were down early big, they actually down nineteen points.
He was the one kind of the steadying force Kauire

(19:52):
Leonard as well had a heck of game thirteen and
seventeen for thirty six. So I don't want to be
little with quiet Kauai did. But man, they got their
hands full. Even in a win for them, Luca gives
them the business and drops what forty four on their heads.
It's utterly ridiculous what this kid is doing. You know, listen,

(20:12):
Luca to me is that Lebron James where he does
everything and it's very timely, right, you know, you guys
make a run, I come down. I either hit the
three or get some else to hit the three, or
I stopped the momentum by getting the foul. He's like
very smart like that, And a lot of people when
they watch basketball, they ot really understand the chess playing

(20:34):
that Lebron the Luca does. Chris Paul's like that, right,
Steve Nash is like that. It's only certain people that
are like that. You know. It was like that, I
go get him, shout out. He was not on their
level talent wise, but he was like that you played
against which he will be able to think. Andre Miller
was like that, just I don't want to. But but
the difference between Luca, Lebron, uh and even Chris Paul

(20:58):
was that they can get the bucket better than j King.
He could, especially on breaks because he would destroy my
pistons for like five years when he was with the
next um. But he can't. He wasn't like, let me
go get it as much as a Lebron or Luca
or Chris Paul. And see, I don't think I didn't listen,
you know, Paul George. I love the death you know,
I love Kauai Leonard. But I don't think they think

(21:19):
like that. No, they don't know. And then and they're
missing that guy. He's definitely missing that guy an example,
and this and then this is slightly blasphemoss Uh not Lebron,
but Draymond is that guy for the Warriors, because look,
if Steph Curry has some kryptonite, it is turnovers when

(21:39):
he gets happy with Look, guys, I was we were
on TV right now this past what step We are
not in the backyard. It's the weirdest thing. It'll be
the NBA Finals Game seven. He will throw the most
nonchalant y m c A passing. That's how they lost
in the playing Yeah, just to not take care of this,
but Draymond has that i Q. And again I'm not

(22:01):
comparing him to Luca or but what I mean is,
but to your point of this guy. I tell people
all the time, just because Draymond green Is didn't come
into the league as a point guard, Magic Johnson, Jason
kidd Ish, he has that ability where he'll get you nine,
nine and nine, and he knows exactly what he's doing,
and even on the defensive end, he understands what happened

(22:24):
to pace are they're doing this? We need to start
listen brilliant, No, no, no, I would know. Here's a
basketball mind savant. Now he became self checked. I don't
know when I'm not. I'm not because you know, I
think putting enough shots up in the summer. You know
why I need to coming down to l A. Let me,
let me help him out. It feels like he fell
in love with narratives like I'm this path, I'm the

(22:46):
leader of passing on his team, and he fell in
love with like because you see him literally he'll be
wide open and he not even my boy will be
on the phone, me losing his mind because he would
have money on the game or something and he won't
even look at the rim out if if anybody right,
if you become really stronger one thing, you're losing another.

(23:10):
That's just what it is. Soon as I become stronger
one thing, I'm gonna losing another. So if he started
hitting threes, he's going to eventually miss the passes to
Steph and Clay and everybody else. That's what I think. Well,
that's that's the curse. There's the give the curse. We're
gonna come back because I want to get back on
the Clippers right now because they got a big win
and then they're the laugh they're the laughing stock of

(23:30):
the NBA. Considering they were a top you know, top
women I need to talk about. Yeah, we're gonna get
back on them. They were a top four seed. They
have to you know, of the best maybe what twenty
players in the NBA. They have a championship coach. Yet
there the laughing stock of the NBA. They've been in
the postseason now for I don't know how long, because
you go back to the Lob City Clippers. So we
gotta break down why what's gonna happen if they are

(23:52):
to lose to this Maverick team, even though they got
a big win one eight team one away. Before we
do that, we gotta find out what's trendy? Woman Man,
Isaac Lowan Crown, Isaac good Morning camp in Good Morning Kitsino,
what's trending? The NBA Playoffs three games last night, headlined
by Jayson tatums fifty point performance in the Celtics one
one nineteen victory over Brooklyn Nets still lead the series
two games to one. The Atlanta Hawks got twenty one

(24:14):
points and fourteen assists from Trey Young and a what
oh five ninety four victory over the Next to go
up two games to one. As Calvin mentioned in the
Los Angeles Clippers defeating the Dallas Mavericks on eighteen to
w a weight despite forty four by Luca don Chech,
Mavericks still lead the series two games to one. Stanley
Cup Playoffs on Friday night, the Vegas Golden Nights won
Game seven over the Minnesota Wild six to two, bind

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him a t scn Mark hat trick. Vegas advances to
Round two against the Colorado Avalanche. Baseball Friday night Giants
led the Dodgers five to going out to the bottom
of the night. Dodgers rallied for three runs to tie it,
and then Albert Pools came to the plate. Here is
Joe Davis on sports Net l a Pool deep and

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that's some more settle roller coaster. I couldn't sell you
to the tenths the Giants, Mike Tokman robbing pool Holds
of a game winning home run. Giants went on to
score three in the top of the tenth inning and
win at eight to five. And finally, Kelvin and Katino,
it's not technically sports, but it is trending, and you
guys were kind of alluding to the subject earlier. Also

(25:25):
trending right now on social media. In honor of National
Burger Day, the best Burger Brackett, among others. You have
Shake Shock as the one seed, five Guys as the
two seed, the three seed is Wendy's, the four seed
is in and Out, and so on and so forth.
The consensus among the many commenters appears that five guys

(25:47):
is the best burger out there, even though it really
should be in and out. Back to you, all right, Isaac,
we appreciate it. Brother. Uh, lots that, lots of continue
to get you. As you mentioned NBA A strint and
and by the way, were talking Isaac jump in on.
I want to ask you guys this question and and
maybe we need to put it up on the pole.
But is there anyone on earth? And I mean anyone
living life better than Snoop Dogg? And you're thinking, well, lot,

(26:10):
that's kind of random. I'll tell you why. I said that.
He's got that Corona run going right now? Those commercials? Uh,
who can be known? What's the first thing you think of? Weed? Right?
Snoop smoking weed? Who can go on rants? When his
Lakers lose? Your mother? All you mother need to get
off and do all that and then have a show
with Martha Stewart and then can like host every single

(26:35):
show on TBS. He's got a game show, he's got
the talent show they do. And then I told you Tino,
I said, if and then if I told you, uh,
the All New on Saturday cartoon where Snoop reads books
to five year olds, We'll be like, yeah, that's Okayig
has a has a youth football league that does very well,

(26:55):
the Snooper Bowl. He calls it the Snooper Bowl snuper Bowl,
who is living like and it can do whatever. There's
no wrong and none of us are upset. You it's crazy.
There's there's no one out there you know who was
as a second But he doesn't do the whole smoking
the weed and all this. But if Shot got drunk
and did some crazy was rolling with some gang bangers,

(27:17):
we will be like, oh my gosh, you kill no
Snoop literally can roll with you whoever. We're like, that's
just Snoop as crazy. SnO can go to the White
House or go to the back on the block where
they're banging, and we'll be like, ah. And by the way,
I've been around him a million times living out here
in l A. And I shot a story, uh you

(27:38):
know with my kids love Snoop. We go to the
He's got the dog Pound compound, my k my kids
love that place. So Snoop rolls up. I'm doing this story.
One of his homeboys out here in l A. Who
they do these cruises and they all get in this
you know, low riders in old schools and it was

(27:59):
a really good story and a lot of guys Trevor reads,
is there Matt Barnes is there, Um Um Freddy Gibbs, rapper,
Freddy Gibbs, et cetera entertainer, and Um David Justice, former
MLB player. Everybody's there. They all get in their old
schools and they come hang out and they ride around
with Khalifa and Snoop. What I tell you, Snoop rolls
up continue you know that you've been in the game.

(28:20):
Not five Deep, not tende by himself. He just rolls
up eating chicken strips. What's up, baby, Snoop. I get
him on the cab like, hey, Snoop, I'm doing the
story and your boy you know about oh man, we
just it's a low ride thing, you know what I'm saying.
Low ride East eas LBC. And he's just going on
and on and everybody loves him. Everybody gets to talk
to him. You know. You know, he's not funny, he's

(28:42):
not back up from me. I'm like, Snoop, He's just
a walking, living legend. And you know he has that.
He has that. He's like the oracle. He's like the philosophy.
He's like the philosopher. Right, It's just the philosophy is
live your life. The philosophy just do your thing. All right?
Speaking of doing their thing, the Clippers did the thing
last night one Cotino by the way, listening to the

(29:02):
Jason McIntire show covering Washington, Coatino mobili in with you? Uh,
and and feel free to tweet us cat up Life
for Myself, Contino's Life for Him or Fox Sports Radio.
I need to know who's better. You can answer that question,
who's living life better than Snoop? I don't think it's
anybody on earth? All right? One eighteen one o eight again,
big game from from your two Paul George and Kawhi Leonard.
But the question I have for you now is, uh,

(29:23):
Coatino and you play for the organization? Uh? Under a
different regime, Steve Balmber wasn't there, you know, a whole
different regime. You didn't have Doc Rivers now tylu um.
But what is it about the Clippers that make the
Clippers gonna clip? As people say the Clippers are gonna clip? Uh?
And are they at a point where they have to

(29:44):
win this series? They have to win this entire maybe
not maybe not get maybe get to the Western Conference finals?
Or is it become a real reality that maybe as
you've heard people say, they might need to blow this
thing up or is it just us overreacting because this
is what we do because we're in the media, and
you know, this is just what we do for the course.
You know, I don't think we're overreacting. I think the

(30:07):
pieces that they have. You have an older Rondo, yes, okay,
if you had a younger Rondo, I think it'll be
no question. We all Toronto is for real, Williams. He
doesn't age at all. He looks I mean, Rondo looks
like Rondo when he was at Kentucky. Yeah, no, Rod,
he definitely does. Rondo is amazing. He's one of my
favorites ever when it comes to being a point guard
and the things that he does. You gotta look at

(30:28):
Rondo's plus minus was a plus twenty two, right, so
you look at Rondo in the game, even though he's
shot two for seven. Rondo is just that much better
than everybody else when it comes to thinking the game. Okay,
with the Clippers, you know, Patrick Beverley, I like Patrick Beverley,
but Rondo is more of a for this team is

(30:49):
what we need, right because you got two of the
best two way players on the same team playing the
two in the three. And then now Rondo passing lanes, toughness, savant,
you know, just like super smart. He's directing them and
being able to manage their energy while they're on the court.
Patrick Brobly's not doing that. He may go beyond. He's

(31:12):
diving here. He's trying to get the crowd hype. Rando
is not even trying to. But he don't care about
the crowd. He cared about chess. Okay, you move here
in three moves, I'm gonna beat you here, checkmate. That's
how Rondo is. So that's what I love about Rondo.
And as you can see you say that, you know
there's there's a uh a plus twenty two with him.

(31:33):
And now it makes Paul George feel better, right, it's
Kauai is already gonna do a thing right. And I
think last year when they had that drought where Kauai
the last two games didn't play well ending the playoffs,
if you'd have had a Rondo off because they're bringing
the ball up. Last year, those two will bring the

(31:54):
ball up most of the time. And let me ask
you this though, then based off that last year and
and even uh he's played well this this season and
this this series is you know this round? Okay, I
just want to make fun of my dog, Sean Marion.
He just fell so fast in the roast him like
I can't swim American Ninja Warrior. He just literally they

(32:17):
said go. He failed in the water and it's over.
He might set the record for the worst lost ever
watch this continuer. I hate to do that, but um,
why don't we blame Kawhi Leonard more for this, for
for their struggles? Why is it because he's a made man?
Because he's got a ring? He too heavy, shown too heavy? Yeah, yeah,
I'm a roast. Yeah no, he's got get roasted. I

(32:37):
gotta handle that asap. Is it because he's a made man?
Kauwhi Leonard doesn't get, doesn't get take enough blame. It's
all pandemic p it's Paul George that well is you know, hey,
Kauai is supposed to be the rest player. And if
you talk though, see peace talking. You know what, maybe
that's the secret to life is just don't say nothing.
If you don't say nothing, you seem more humble. Even
if you're not humble, you seem more humble. Paul said

(33:00):
that about himself. No one else said that about Paul Right.
As much as I love Paul Right, I just if
you just keep your mouth shut and build this type
of you know, whatever it is about you that you want,
just keep your mouth shut. What you know? What else too?
It's it's even James and called himself king. They called
him king before he did. You can't tell the media

(33:21):
that nobody, nobody on earth will believe you. But it's
the truth. But with the truth, were what the truth?
The truth doesn't matter. The truth went out of style.
Just lead that alone. The truth went out the windows. No. Uh,
there is also something too. If you if you do

(33:42):
talk and you have conviction in what you say or believe,
then there's an element of water on the two A ducks.
You know, it rolls off the back. But what I
mean by that is Kobe Bryant talked and then if
he whatever, let's say he was talking and had a
bad game he did, you knew that it didn't matter.
You're talking, was just talking. But he's raw to Westbrook,
same thing like Russia's just Russia's just russ And so

(34:04):
you're talking in Okay, you can talk. I know, you
have shows to feel and stuff to talk. About but
it doesn't bother me. Whereas Paul George, I feel like
he'll say something and he doesn't fully believe it or
what you know what I mean, you can tell he's
like man or what we say affects him. And to
an extent, Lebron was like that. Kevin Durant is surely
like that. But how's the Brown. I've never I've never

(34:25):
seen the Brown be as sensitive. No Lebron, No, no,
not as that, because he's much more sure of He's
also made man, but he's much Lebron's way is don't
act like you don't know. That is passive aggressive Lebron
James and you know again it goes Gloria James and
me his biggest fans. But he is passive. He is
passive aggressive. He is you know, he'll he'll and he

(34:48):
also does stuff you know on social media that I've
rather the passive aggressive way. You understand. I'm saying, where
play where playoff? P who who named him that I
think did? Did my point so? And it's much again,
I'm saying it again. As much as I love him,
I'm just one man. It doesn't matter when you're not
doing what you're supposed to do when you call your

(35:10):
name something. Michael Jordan don't call himself air Kobe, Brian
didn't call himself mamba. You know, people didn't call themselves
and then they don't say it in the media, he says.
Lebron James has never said King James. You might say
I'm the best. He might have said I'm the best?
What you should? Well, all right, let me say this.
He does say it on a public form Instagram and Twitter.

(35:31):
Non nobody listen, Yeah, because who loves himself? More on
Instagram Michael Jordan, Lebron James or I g model, I
don't know. Oh my god, I can't believe you doing this. No, listen,
Lebron listen. Leron loves Lebron. I love me some Lebron
and I do too. Come on, miss Gloria, Savannah and me. Okay,

(35:53):
eighteen years old, you eighteen years old and now you're
thirty six and you lived up beyond. Oh no, I
gotta keep telling myself. I'm um, but no, we we boxers.
Lebron James is like a boxer. Bron James like a boxer. Right, Yeah,
you know what I'm saying where it's like that confidence
is just like beyond even though Lebron James can back
it up, boxes get knocked out and still be thinking

(36:13):
like they the guy. That is true, And then unfortunately
you see boxers ten years later and you'd be like
I had one of the saddest interviews I ever had
to do a few years back, interviewing a boxer and
he was still boxing and I was like, somebody's gotta
tell him stop because he was just like Hasid said,
what are we doing again? I was the interview We're live.
I'll tell you who was off there? I can't It was, yeah,

(36:35):
it was. It was just it was bad, all right? Um,
speaking of Lebron, speaking of the Lakers, are we at
the point where we can just write them into the
to the finals again because this is what Lebron's annual trip?
Or can the Phoenix Suns find a way to make
this thing and series? We will discuss that next. Katino
Mobile and Kelvin Washington d for the Jason McIntire show
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(36:58):
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Mobile here as well. All Right, I want to get
to the Lakers and also once week we're going this
is a quicker segment here when we come back. I
do want to have a conversation Ryan sent on a

(37:39):
good topic that I want to get to it. It It
involves Lebron and the Lakers and Stephan the Warriors, but
not necessarily just as you think with basketball excess and
those will get to that and a little bit. But
the Lakers right now, it looks like that, as Jay
Z once said, Katino, I guess I got my swagger back.
Looked like the Lakers have finally found their groove. The
biggest issue for them has been health. You know, is

(38:01):
Dennis Shrewder gonna be healthy? Is Anthony Davis healthy? Is
Lebron James healthy? So on and so forth. Uh, we
saw the other night that win healthy what they can be.
Lebron probing and waiting until the perfect moment to take
over in that third quarter, starting to have fun with
Jake Crowder literally like laughing on the court, shaking, doing
the shimmy with his shoulders. I mean it was in

(38:22):
the point was all right, if I jay crowded, I
might have to punch somebody you know about, But I
got kids watching me. Okay, you're not about to barrass
me like this. Um. And then you saw Anthony Davis
getting busy back to that game's dirty plus double digit
rebound effort from him as well. Dennis Shrewder had a
couple of nice games as well. Uh. To credit the
Phoenix Suns. They kept fighting and staying in the game

(38:43):
and making it a game. There was a point in
game three when you say, okay, the Lakers are blowing
this thing is already at fifteen points, about to get
out of line. They got that thing back within like
five or six. And one thing I like about this.
You remember that era. It's like the mid to late
two thousand's when we felt like nobody cared anymore. And
the NBA, right, I feel like there's a bunch of

(39:04):
young guys in the league who care. Like I watched
Jaylen Brown, I feel like he cares. I watched Jason
Jason Memphis Grizzlies care exactly a guy. I feel like
they care. I watched Devin Booker and I see a
chip on his shoulder. Yeah, he's pushing Anthony Davis or

(39:24):
not Anthony David who there in the air. So there
is something to that because you're like, he ain't up,
but you're like, oh, maybe he is. Uh, he's push
you know. I feel like these guys, some of these
young guys care and as good to feel that back
as a fan of the game. You are a fan,
you played in it, but now you know you still
get to sit back and watch it. You're in that fraternity.
I feel like guys are caring again, like and you
feel like, man, all this matters to them. I know

(39:45):
they're worth a hundred million, eighty million, hundred two hundred millions,
but bump that they're hoopers and their prideful and it matters.
And one thing I'm appreciating about the Suns, and I
don't know if it's Chris Paul effect of Monty Williams effect,
but I feel like they care and they're gonna fight
in this series. So yeah, the Lakers are probably gonna
win this thing in five max six, you know, depending
on Chris Paul's health. But there at least I feel

(40:07):
like the Sons, to their credit and Montie Williams, they're
fighting and they're gonna try to make this thing a thing. Well,
he's just two things, right, really quick. There's two things.
Just Monty Williams, who was an amazing player, you know
what I'm saying. He's amazing coach, He's an amazing person.
He never quit, right, That's one, so they take on
that personality. And then two is just Chris Paul coming
in this year and then changing their identity that you know,
we have a chance, right and we we belong here.

(40:28):
That's another thing. Even though Chris paul shoulder, he can't
lift that shoulder up, which is I saw the free
throw line and he was shoot him like, ah, they
ain't got a chance. You know what I'm saying, You
ain't got a chance. You got Lebron James sitting there
waiting to you know, I mean kill anybody. Yeah, and
he's staying. He's starting a warm on two. But I
still give them a chance and that they're competitive. And
if the Lakers go through one of the lulls where
they're not scoring, they're gonna be out there. They have

(40:49):
a chance. Speaking of Lakers Warrior Steph Lebron, the rival continues.
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interesting article that Ryan sent us last night. Took a

(41:51):
look at this. Um, I believe Steph Curry is the
m E p e as an elephant, you know, I
of kids when I gotta do it like that, it's
for elephant. Uh not V is in Victor. I think
he is the most entertaining player. I think he's the
one that if you're like, I don't really feel like
watching the games today, and I was like, yeah, but

(42:12):
Steph's Steph's got the ball. I mean, I mean that.
Let me check out step in my household. My wife
is numb to sports because I beat her over the
head with it so much. He's watching me, you know,
I'm alway. They're always on, and she likes it. She
sticks with you know, she knows what's going on in
the NBA, of course a bit. But when Steph Curry
is playing, it's a lot of we talk, Oh, what
are we doing, How are we doing? We? Whoa whoa?

(42:35):
When the Warriors are playing and step, how do we look?
We look? We we were about to have an argument
up in this house. So we were a household divided Catino.
Whenever the Calves or the Lake or you know, any
team Lebron was on would play the Warriors, because you know,
my favorite teams are at the Pistons, Lebron and then
the Lakers, meaning wherever Lebron go, I go, Lebron is
Orlando Magic, then I'm gonna have O Orlando Magic. Uh

(42:58):
So you know that's my favorite tim right now that
you live in a l a from Misgore, your favorite team,
I said, was still Pistons. You know I'm gonna ride
that out, I said. But then it's the lebron Nets,
meaning wherever Lebron goes. You know, I was never um Sixers.
I was always growing up Chicago Bulls. Just Mike, no Scotty.
I loved Mike, but I wanted to be like Scotty.

(43:19):
Scotty did everything. You know what I'm saying to me,
growing you get beat up in Philly for that, I know, right,
I thought you're gonna say a Celtics fan, I was
gonna be no, just Scotty and Mike because they were
on TV the most, well outside of Philly, because you
were in just nationally, they were just literally nationally on
TV the most. Hold on, So let me think, Okay,
your error growing up, well you are really good. So

(43:41):
like late eighties nineties where Charles Barkley Junis was leaving entertaining.
But now I was really little. When I was really little,
like you know, y'all eight nine years old? Yeah you do?
You know what I'm saying, little the doctor, Yeah yeah, yeah,
y'all had y'all had a squad in the eight and

(44:02):
like the took into like eighty six. Yeall have you
had a squad? Yeah? Yeah. I loved them like I
still love them, but not like I loved them when
I was younger, right, because my uncle's minds, my mom, everybody,
we love the sixes. You know what I'm saying. But
then when I started to play the game, that was
when Mike and them, Mike was in Scotty. That's when

(44:24):
I was like, oh, yeah, well you you lead me
to continuing this conversation, this is a look at how
Steph Curry is the NBA's top draw and that there
are TV ratings that can act actually back that up.
So um essentially, what what they talk about is that
Steph Curry is the biggest draw in the NBA. Steph
Curry is the biggest draw, bigger than Lebron, Steph Curry

(44:46):
and the Warriors dwarf the Los Angeles Lakers when it
comes to ratings. And I was actually offended to hear that,
you know, now living in l A, working for the
same company that owns the you know, the rights of
the Lakers on TV. I was like, what mean, so, Ryan,
help me on if I'm looking at this correctly that
if you look at an example of there's like we'll

(45:08):
call it just sub of a hundred thousand people who
watched the Lakers when they're playing, right, which I was
shocked that. I don't even know how that's possible considering
there's millions of people in Los Angeles and the Dodgers
draw like two hundreds something thousands. Now I know, if
you're live in that, like everybody knows it's a Laker
town first, Dodger second. No one debates that. Now you

(45:29):
can you can debate the the closest of the two,
but I don't think anybody. I mean, you guys are
here in there, like, now, tell me if I'm wrong,
Sam Ryan, you hear Contino as well. I would say
one in one A with Lakers Dodgers. I think it's
that close that you think is that close? Okay? All right?
Uh the yeah, yeah yeah? Can I go like one

(45:51):
in one B and there's no a just that and
maybe that close but close but not quite one a. Um,
And I could be wrong, but I have a reason
why I think. So. Then this in this article it
talks about how Steph Curry and just what he does
and how the Bay Area they love him, the TV generations.
But I would have thrown up. So it's generational a
couple of factors. You said generational. Explain that and then

(46:13):
we can volley these reasonings back. So go generation, explain
what you mean? Okay, So, like, listen, there was there
was Mark Price, there was you know, there was the
Reggie Miller's. There was a lot of guys that did
what stuff was doing and shooting the threes and things
like that. Right, so back then you had to dump
the ball down first. Well, Michael Jordan was actually the
guy you dump it too, right, when the two is
Michael Jordan was dunking the ball over people. Everybody wanted

(46:34):
to learn how to do that. There was come fly
with me. There was all types of different things that
was going on marketing wise, right where you changing your
you know, the torch to another individual and magic and
Bird was given it to Mike right air Jordan's. And
then it got to the Lebron James where or Kobe
Bryant and Lebron James where you're kind of like doing
the same thing there and not too many kids can

(46:57):
do what you can do. But then you get to
step Curry, who's not, as you know, physically intimidating. He's
shooting threes, he's running around, he's passing the ball. He's
cause like like you said, right, it's like chaotic. And
then he shoots and mix it right. He puts between
his legs and he mix it again. Right. It's just
like he's more believable to the little kids. You think

(47:20):
about when little kid walks to Jim, he's not dunking
the ball. What he's gonna do. The first thing you
do is sad. You know, he's You're gonna shoot a
long three and he can't even make it. There's a
lot they're just throwing it up to learn how to
do that. So I think it's more likable, and it's
I see it. It's I think I can be there,
even if I can't, I think I can be that.

(47:41):
I can't be Lebron James. I'm six nine and just
like that. Okay, Now, I won't debate that. I think
that's I think everybody would agree. He became one of
the first, or at least in modern era where you're like,
like you said, like Mike, if I could be like
it's more like like step I actually can be like
step I can control my shooting. I can't control that guy, right,
you ain't lying about that? Shout the Harold minor um.

(48:05):
So here's my theory on this specifically, when it ties
into the face of the NBA. We all agree is
Lebron right, Steph Curry could be as Ryan said, with
the Lakers Dodgers, maybe one A, but I think we
still agree it's it's Lebron. And maybe it's close. You know,
the hair on one of his chinny chin chains because
he got Lebron at the Abe Lincoln beer going on.

(48:25):
But I also think there's a couple other factors, Patino,
I think there's fatigue. Lebron has been in the league.
What probably my guest is five years longer. There's so
five six years longer than stance Steph Um. So I
think there's fatigue there. The first third of Steph's career,
he was just oh that one died, the one dude
from Davidson. You can shoot I like we weren't. He

(48:46):
wasn't a household name, so you could argue that's probably
a six seven eight years run of where we didn't
even think about Steph, where Lebron we thought about since
high school. So I think there's a fatigue factor, and
more important specifically in Los Angeles, and I think anyone
who would keep it honest. I saw a young lady
tweet this. She just she has like eight hundred followers,

(49:07):
but it got like eight thousand retweets or in likes
and all that. She said she came to grips with
Lebron being on the Lakers, and her point was when
he came to l A, she wasn't excited. In our
sister station out here and five seventy I was doing
radio there. I think I was on with either Rob Parker,
Rodney Pete out here, and it was when and Fred

(49:29):
Rogan when it was becoming like official that Lebron was coming.
And I remember taking phone calls here locally in l A.
You would think the Lakers are used to what winning, right, dominating?
Where the Lakers, you know, the biggest brand in all
of really maybe American sports except the Yankees. I can't
express you how this was a phone calls right here.
But today, hey, you know, working the radio station. I'll

(49:51):
pass if this is true, because it hadn't quite happened yet,
it was, it was almost happening. I'd rather not. You'd
rather not have the best player in the NBA to
help this team who suck for the last six seven years,
even with Kobe because he was older, he was hurt. No,
I'd rather not. And I said, oh, then you're a
Kobe Bryant fan, not a Laker fan, because Kobe Bryant
fans the rivalry, right, He's gonna come here and I
don't want to look at him, and I don't want

(50:13):
him because we've been debating about them for the last
ten years. And I said, you guys are telling me
you're Kobe fans and Laker fans, Laker fan, no organization
would not want to have the biggest, the biggest brand
in the league, and the best player. So I think
with Lebron, and specifically with the Lakers, I think there's
an element in l A of this guy, get fatigued
of him and he's not going to replace my Kobe.

(50:34):
Prior to Kobe's passing and even during you know what
I mean, there's just an element of yea. Lebron was
not fully embracing Los Angeles. He was yeah, yeah, I
will throw this pin at you exactly, and you're like, step,
that's cool. Maybe he's coming in with a mon Yeah,
he got staying around for a long time and he's

(50:54):
been nice. I can't lie. I can't lie, but you
ain't daddy. Yeah, you're not my dad. That's a great
way of putting it. Coatino, And I feel like there's
an element in l A where maybe it's it's slowly changing,
but I think people just for that first year and
a half of Lebron were just like, yeah, not excited.
Had Lebron went to the Nuggets, the Trailblazers, the Pistons,

(51:18):
oh my gosh, they have been a musty thing. Economy
is changed, literally, economy is changing those cities. But I
think in l A it was like, I've seen him
for twenty years, almost tired of him. He ain't Kobe,
and then they I think there's also a thought what
if he comes here and revives the franchise in windsor Ring.
Now I have to argue, maybe he is, but greater

(51:38):
than Kobe. And I just think there's an element of
that in l A. You gotta think it's twenty twenty years. Man,
somebody's watching a person developed. You've got him five rings
in twenty years, right, it's of the time being here
that you guys are winning. That's an amazing that's an
amazing winning percentage. Right. So then now you have people
who are twenty years old watching down there. How do

(52:00):
you get that out of your system? You've got people
with ten years old watching the thirty like it says,
how do you get that out of your system? And
not only that, though, it's it's the specific person that
was coming, meaning if Yannis was coming, oh man, we
went to get y'all. That's the Greek freak. I think
it was like, ah to redeem the Lakers. It's gonna
be the guy who's been the rival to my guy.

(52:20):
But I think if he didn't go to Miami and
went from Cleveland to the Lakers, it had been different.
But that causes that adds to my fatigue because he
became a heatle and because of that, he was in
the finals every year for four years straight, right, and
he was the most talked about thing because we hated
him or you know, Lebron is Lebron that and that
added to the fuel and the fatigue, and not to
mention because he was winning. That added to his resume

(52:42):
that I think he's eleven he's ten out of the
last eleven? Or is eleven out of last twelve? Ryan?
Come on, Ryan, figure that out. It's about nine years straight.
He went nine years straight. And I think because remember
he didn't miss the year, it didn't went back last year,
So I think he's like ten out of the last.
First of all, that is absurd. Ye'll probably gonna go

(53:05):
to the finals. What you're doing? Continue? Like, what what
do you mean? That's not normal? That's why I did
fatigued exactly, And I think that has something to do
and to some this this ratings thing up. To give
you an example, when you're saving kids. He's deep, he's
making space jam. He's still going to final. Yeah, give me,
give me one second, gonna go to the finals. Yeah yeah,

(53:26):
yah yeah, that's pretty cool. At the finals should come sometimes. Look,
I want to throw this out there to continue the
stat thing ratings. I should say so that they so
the Warriors Grizzly Elimination game, that that playing game drew
a three point six three six three million viewers. The
Pacers and the Wizards drew one point seven. Uh that

(53:49):
you continue to look at what Steph Curry does. He
was basically higher than the Lakers when it comes to
people who are watching these Warriors games. The only house,
the only the only market that's even close, and they
are very close, is the Utah Jazz when it comes
to Warriors. What they do numbers wise, as far as ratings,
um and it makes sense. There's nothing else to do
in Utah, right, have kids watch the Warriors. That's all

(54:11):
they do in Utah. But you want to have another kid?
We had eleven right now? Um, So I just think
Steph Curry, to his credit that you mentioned, he's not
the best player. He's right there and that's not he's
right there. And if someone said he's the best, I'm
not gonna argue. I mean, he's right, but I think
this is the most entertaining. Yes, that's how I view
the most valuable on that team, right, is it Steph Curry.

(54:35):
It's like one A, one B Draymond Green stuff Curry.
Because Draymond Green is not there. You don't get to
do that, right, And I say that, I say Draymonds
their most important, most important. He does do the dirty work.
Valuable like Lebron James on any team. Well that's just
the whole another thing, right, any team, and Luca as well,
like but but he's right there. If you say he's

(54:56):
the best, I'm not gonna argue with you. But for sure,
he's transcendent and he he has made this game much
more entertaining. Thank god we've had him right, he's brought
and shout out. I'm happy for the NBA that the
ratings are back up. People are coming back, people are
excited speaking of that. People are coming back in arenas
and stadiums and are acting like idiots. And I need
to know what would Coatino Mobile of a decade ago

(55:16):
done if someone spit on him or poor popcorn on him. Matter. Yeah,
I'm looking. I'm scared to look at you and I
right now the way you just look at me, We'll
do that. Next is Jason McIntyre Show, Coatino Mobile, Calvin
Washington and Fox Sports Radio. Oh, Jay Diller, Oh you
always play the heat. I love it, always played the heat.
Look you know what I love about? What's sam to you?

(55:38):
Give him? Common? Look at him? Rosie red Cheeks started
shucks me, uh, Catino, stop it. Jason McIntyre Show, Kelvin Washington,
Coatino Mobile. We gotta say. I'm on the boards, Ryan
Producing and Isaac Loran crying. Is gonna be with you
in a moment to give you what is trending on
a beautiful Saturday morning, hopefully again, did you and the

(55:59):
fam are enjoying it? However you may be doing so
um one thing that I'm not enjoying. And you know,
I actually had to take a moment to like, there's
a word that we don't use in life, and that's
called perspective. All right, we aren't nuanced now, we don't
take a beat to breathe and really kind of assess
these things. And where I'm going with that is by

(56:21):
the way. Hell, no, what do I need to do?
I need to get on this phone call. Do I
need to take this phone call real quick? That's how
our child before I get into this. Let's see what
Charlie Charlie out now when somebody when you say Nevada,
we immediately think, uh, Vegas. Are you not in Vegas?
Where are you at? I'm not. But let me just
say first, you just dropped perspective and nuance. Dude. I mean,

(56:41):
I've been laughing through the whole show, and then you
dropped that kind of knowledge on me. I'm driving through
northern Nevada, Okay, the middle of Nevada, like the high desert,
the middle of nowhere. Basically I live in Winnamacca. So
I'd like to say, my name is Chuck and I'm
stuck in the muck. Yeah, I like that. I like that,

(57:02):
Chuck with the bars continue Chuck right on. And if
you guys have just made me laugh. And I've never
heard your show before. I always listened to Fox Sports,
but I found a new station in the Elko on
my way here today, and you guys cracking me up
for a full hour. Well you know what, you know what, Chuck,
I appreciate that. Here's here's the good thing about that Coatino.

(57:22):
We were just talking off the area. You know what
Chuck sat at? What time? Chuck? We got the money
in the mail? Yeah, you know it makes sure the
bosses here that Chuck. Chuck say it again. We couldn't
hear you the phone, you Chuck, right, I lost their
email son. Yeah, we'll send that to you, Ryan covering. No, Chuck, Man, Hey,
we appreciate you checking in. And what do you are?
You a truck is Chuck a truck driver? What are

(57:42):
you doing out there chucking them up? Now? I do
retail work. I go to Walmart and Family Dollar and
different stores around and I work for three different companies altogether.
It's COVID times, you know, I'm out there licking the
COVID off the shelves, as they say. But well, Chuck,
I appreciate you calling, and I appreciate you. Appreciate stay health,

(58:03):
stay safe and healthy out there, man. And yeah, dude,
we appreciate you listening seriously, Man, Thank you Man. Anybody
else I want to call in as well at eight
seven seven six seven seven Fox. If you can't get
to the phone, then you can tweet us at Katino's
life and came up live for myself. UM, I appreciate that. Man.
That was pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Every not good.
Good to hear that. And you just you were just
kind of giving me points about that, right. It's just

(58:25):
like sometimes just like listen, man, we were just and
that's the irony of that phone call. We were just
having this literally just having that conversations. I've learned. I've
been in radio now for for fifteen sixteen years, from
from from music radio, the sports radio, the news radio,
pick a radio, you know what I mean. I did
Marriott Radio up in this much. I um and so,

(58:47):
so one of the things you often get caught up
in is you forget to just have fun. People come in,
I gotta have all these texas and ohs, and I
mean it's like you have fun. We'll get to that.
You can you know, have fun, man, you know what
I mean. You're you're talking about sports, you're talking about music, Like, dude,
enjoy have fun. You know. I would love to have
that where like how how we uh you know, go
back and forth or whatever, even if it's off the

(59:07):
air with the talking, so we can when you get
back on there. The topic is what it is like
Chuck coming in and we were talking about that just now.
But like it's like kind of that you want to
make it like the barbershop of radio. Yeah, but but
that's that's and I think I think that's essentially what
it's supposed to be. Right. We're all just hanging out
having a good time talking about whatever the whether it

(59:28):
is sports, whether you know, whatever your thing is, music,
you're supposed to be doing that, right, We're all just
hanging out and you're part of the show as well,
so feel free to jump on in this. So this
is what I was throwing at. I said, we got
stadium June fifteenth here in California, everything will open that
back up. Every state has been different, you know. Some
have already opened up fully, some other people have slowly
doing it. So some some games you see, like the

(59:48):
Knicks are lit right Masison Square Garden Man, by the way,
that's crazy. You better tell me what it's like playing there,
because it is just Listen, I've seen that. And even
when we played and we were a draw, Steve for instance,
myself and then y'all mean came and he was a draw,
you know, I mean his commercials everything Steve commercials. My
commercials are Nike, Like we were a draw. I've never

(01:00:10):
put this way. I don't remember it being that crazy
that what I saw the other day. So I think
there's a combination of things I think built up. Right.
You've been we've all been quarantined for a year plus,
cooped up, So I think that has something to do it.
The Knicks haven't been in the playoffs since what was
it with Mellow and so there's an element of that

(01:00:33):
where it's like, dude, not only will be cooped up,
we haven't screened for a game that mattered this much
in years. So you're getting at and you feel it
and rarelyer things uh palpal bowl. You can feel it
through the TV, you know what I mean? Like, dude,
everybody I listened to on sports radio the day after
that first next game was like, Yo, that was that
was awesome that you forgot how important fans were. You

(01:00:56):
forgot that what they matter, what they do. And I
think that's actually, believe it out part of why I
think Julius Randall is playing poorly. Too much. That energy
to ch he's never been a Nick player with that crop. Yeah,
he needs to settle. It's it's it's you listen. Any
d transfers right, and it moves. And sometimes when you

(01:01:17):
take too much in, it's like water, right, it drowns you.
So you have to really find a way in your
life because I do meditation right, and I'm listening to
to and then literally trying to And it's funny because
that car totally had something that came out yesterday, day
before yesterday, and it was it was more so about
taking control of your subconscience during disruptive times, right, so

(01:01:39):
and and and having and trying to understand that. I
text Julius and I'm like, gonna listen, just settle down, right.
This is the playoffs. This team is gonna play you
seven times, right if you're lucky seven times. So when
you're playing this game, you can't do the same you
didn't get a Reglan season that you're gonna do in
the postseason. You gotta pick your poison, right. You gotta
understand exactly how they're playing you, And the most important

(01:02:01):
thing for you is you have to take control of
the energy that you're putting out there and that you're
taking in, right, Because a lot of those knicks fans become,
even if they don't want to, even if they may
seem positive, become energy vampires. So they're taking yours from you, right.
And then now when you're when you're out there playing,
your mind is clogged, right, it's like very cloudy. Right.

(01:02:24):
You're not really thinking in slow more like you were
doing before when you were dominating. Everything was in slow moo.
When you're a really good player, things is slow, right.
And when you're young and you're like a little rabbit,
I don't even know what I'm doing. That's yeah, Like
that's that's what he feels like at the moment. And
now the thing about the crowds is they're excited. Master
Square Garden has been awesome to Seeds is here, it's

(01:02:45):
just been fantastic. And around the NBA again, every arena
has been different as far as the capacity, which is
gonna be crazy when the Staples Center June fifteen gets
to open up fully, that's gonna be amazing. Um. But
I said that to say, here's the problem. Right, you
got fans coming in who are now drunk, who are
having a good time, and there's always the idiots and

(01:03:05):
you and I know back in the club and days.
You always go to the club and there's always nineties
seven point eight percent of the people there want to
have a good time. The ladies are coming there and
look good. Have a good time with the girls. Maybe
you know, meet somebody guys coming in and hang without
your boys, have a drink. Maybe you know, meet a
nice young lady. Have a good time. Right listen, music
dance kicking. So it's a vibe. There's always knucklehead who

(01:03:27):
comes and is ready to fight to ruin it. And
that's the same thing that applies with these fans. There's
always one or two. And that's why I said perspective
and nuance and that you want to let the fans
of the fans, well, then you kind of think about
it's not the fans, it's that fan or that five guys.
You could say what you want, but popcorn and spit
and listen. So hold that because we're gonna we're gonna

(01:03:48):
talk about that. Well I want to hear that story.
We're gonna talk about that and how fans have gone
a little bit overboard, as not a little bit have
gone overboard. The food select fans have gone overboard. We'll
talk about that and what interesting conversation with my Mama
Mama dubbed Mama dub has an interesting about this. I
will do that next, But right now, what's trending with
Isaac Lord Kelvin Katina. We have another example of fans

(01:04:12):
behaving badly as part of last night's NBA playoff action.
We get to that in a moment. We start with
Jason Tatum scoring fifty points in the Boston Celtics to
one nineteen victory over the Brooklyn Nets, who still lead
the series two games to one. The Atlanta Hawks defeat
of the New York Knicks one oh five to ninety four.
Hawks still lead the series two games to one. The

(01:04:33):
Los Angeles Clippers over the Dallas Mavericks one at eighteen
to one oh eight, despite forty four by Luca don Jech,
Mavericks still lead that series two games to one. Now,
this morning, there is a video making the rounds on
social media of a fight that occurred after the Mavericks
game in the American Airline Center parking garage. Now, the

(01:04:57):
reason that this clip has been viewed over seven hundred
and eighty thousand times is because this fight was between
a Mavericks fan in a Luca donche It's jersey and
another Mavericks fan in a Luca donche It jersey until
the fight was broken up by yet another Mavericks fan
in a Luca donche It's jersey. The world that is popularity,

(01:05:22):
ladies and gentlemen. In the Stanley Cup Playoffs on Friday Night,
the Vegas Golden Nights won Game seven over the Minnesota
Wild six to two. Thanks in part to him at
t SC and Mark Hatrick, Vegas advances to Round two
against the Colorado Avalanche. Baseball Friday Night, Dodgers rallied for
three in the bottom of the ninth thinning to tie
the Giants at five, but then the Giants Mike Hochman

(01:05:43):
came up with a game saving robbery of the Dodgers.
Albert pool holds all six Deepklin and that's some most
the roller coaster. I couldn't tell you to the tense

(01:06:04):
Joe Davis the call on Sportsnet l A. Giants went
on to win at eight to five in a ten
innings back to Kelvin and Katino and I'm sure Katino
back in the day outside of the Old Summit in Houston,
fans wearing Katino moble Jerseys probably went at it because
they were still emotionally moved by your performances in a
Rockets uniform. That we had a lot of love in Houston.

(01:06:26):
We had a lot of love in like Dallas last night. Yeah,
I mean that. We we thank you for that, Isaac.
We actually took a look at it and uh yeah,
the guy, the guy you thought was gonna win the fight,
came out of the back seat. Look big, looked about
six two back. Yeah, he come with his face first.

(01:06:47):
No he didn't nothing, but we we are in all boxers,
like he comes with your face and he got dropped
to the dropped very twice. Yeah, you can't. That's embarrassing twice.
He needs to hire the people, you know, you can't.
They screw of all your googles and they can delete
all the bad things about you. You see the guy
that was pretty kind to him because it could have

(01:07:07):
been bad. You and I have seen plenty of five
when it really gets bad. All right, So we're gonna
continue this conversation about fans in a moment because we're draining.
We were just having a conversation about radio and it's
somebody my former radio buddy now TV buddy Mike Drew
Dell Spectrum Sports set here in l A. Is joining us. Uh.
He is the Lakers reporter. You've been seeing them for

(01:07:29):
years now. Mike, what's up, brother? How are you? How
are the family? What's happened to guys? How are you doing?
Good man? Mike Man, We've been talking about and there's
a whole lot of hoops which has been a blast
to do. Um, I'll start, We'll start with the Lakers. Um.
One of the things I threw at Katino was the conversation, really,
the Lakers have been a fake seventh seed meeting. They're

(01:07:51):
the greatest seven seed we can really say, any lower
seed arguably I've ever seen. It wasn't that they played
like a seventh seed or a lower seed it or
playing team. It was that they weren't healthy. And now
that for the most part everyone now everyone's still gonna
be nicked up. It's then they played a long season.
We're in the finals, I mean in the playoffs, but
these guys for the most part are healthy. Now is

(01:08:11):
this just a formality beating the playing the sons? They're
gonna get back to tip top shape and we can
expect them to make a finals run. So Covin, I mean,
I don't. I don't think we can call it a
formality just because Phoenix is a good team, but obviously
they're hampered by Chris Paul's injury. And then even with
the healthy Chris Paul, I still had Lakers in five.
It's a bit because of what you said about this team,

(01:08:31):
like clearly not a seven seed. The reason they were
down there was because Lebron and Nathony Davis missed more
than half of the season collectively. Phoenix was the opposite.
They only missed eleven games, the starters the whole time.
So I think that was really what it was about.
And what we needed to see was how healthy is
Lebron's ankle. I think that he's proven that it's at
least healthy enough. And then was a d gonna be
able to get back to his peak form his two

(01:08:53):
way play, the All NBA First Team D had last year,
and he started that really early in the month and almost,
you know, even at the end of April. So once
I saw those two things, Covin have felt better about
where they were going to get based on what their
talent level is and their level of cohesion Mike, let
me ask you this. Now, I think most people you know,
feel the same way when they look at this. You know,
this this roster. I want to ask you about Anthony

(01:09:16):
Davis and and it continued. You can kind of jump
in on this as far as some people are frustrating,
right because they feel like, man, why do we have
to quote unquote polp the bear? Why does he have
to have a bad game or two? And then he'll
say I'm sorry to back and they bounce back. What
is this just it's just just kind of you take
the good with the bad of a player, and that's
just kind of par for the course with him that
you're gonna have. He's gonna have these clunkers every now

(01:09:36):
and again where you're like, what was that? Or these
games were not even just shooting is off, but just
you didn't feel the effort. Uh. Is that just kind
of who his makeup? No, I don't think so. So.
So I think that if you look at it really
and you go back to last season, he was really
pretty consistent. And that was from the start of the
regular season all the way through the postseason run in
which he was pretty much locked in. Now this year,

(01:09:58):
to start the seventy one day off season that really
did seem to get to a d Um at a
different level. He hadn't He hadn't had that experience like
lebron Head where he was going to the finals every year,
and then he kind of figured out how to keep
his body there for the shortened off season. So to me,
it was more it was a bit more of a
mental thing with a d and just trying to kind
of come to grips with this unique season in the pandemic, Hey,
how can he get his body to the point where

(01:10:20):
he wants it to be for the playoff run? And
I think that he was playing the regular season just
to get ready for the postseason, as opposed to last
year where it was really they were bringing it a
certain level every night. And then yes, he did have
the game one where he didn't bring his best effort um.
But now we've seen him back to back put on
the type of performances that I think that they were
used to seeing throughout the bubble last year, So I

(01:10:40):
would expect this to stay. Actually, I think that it's
actually a bit of a false narrative to say that
he's kind of, you know, a guy that brings it
sometimes and and doesn't bring it other times. Yeah, it's
it's a good point. My distance cato Um. I want
to ask him. I have my my kind of my
differences on Anthony Davis. As much as I think he's
such a dominant player and being playing myself and trying

(01:11:02):
to get, you know, to that, I guess that mental
state every single game. It feels to me that some games,
not talent wise, but just maybe mentally he is kind
of exhausted about certain things. But the point you just
made makes a lot of sense. I want to ask about,

(01:11:22):
you know, drumming, right, I wanna uh uh Mantrese Harold,
you know, Marcusol. It seems like they're playing around with
mantress um um mantress. Harolds hasn't played in a few games,
and then you have now, yeah, Marcusol in the game.
What what do you think that changeup is and and
how do we utilize like drumming a little bit more

(01:11:44):
than what he's been used. Yeah, it's a good question.
I mean, it's one that's been fair throughout the whole season,
and I think that that's just because the Lakers have
sort of unique center depth, you know, not many teams
can bring Marcusol and Montres Harrel off the bench or
go to Anthony Davis at the five, which is the
times can be his best position. So I think it's
just kind of, you know, Frank Vogel has been trying
to find a way to keep all of those guys

(01:12:05):
engaged and once the playoff comes though, and this happened
last year two guys where JaVale McGee played one series,
didn't play the other, Dwight Howard played one series, didn't
play the other. They're just going with matchups, and I
think in this in the case with Phoenix, the way
that they've been using Gasol and drummond Um to kind
kind of go back and forth with gendre Eton like
playing forty one minutes per game, and that's to me

(01:12:26):
where Harold, you know, hasn't been able to say in
the floor as much. But you're right, Contino, it's it's
not something that has a neat answer because all those
guys are good, like, they all deserve to play, and
you just can't play all of them, right, Yeah, Mike
Trudel is with those spectrum sports that in a Lakers reporter, Mike,
I want to I want to switch gears with from
the Lakers, but still keep them there and that let's
assume they keep getting healthy, they maybe come out of

(01:12:49):
the West or should I say who it can hold
them from coming out of the West? From Lebron going
to another finals were we've been joking that that's just
his yearly appointment to make the finals. And then if
they are to, the question would be who do you
looking in the East? Is that the Nets? Is that
the seventy Sixers and the Bucks? We haven't even taught
We've been on the radio for you know, an hour
and a half. We haven't even got to the Bucks,
who have been playing outstanding basketball. The Sixers have been

(01:13:10):
playing outstanding basketball. Um, who do you look at maybe
as a threat? Is? You know, and say the Lakers
match up against them, it's gonna be a tough series. Yes,
So if we want to do if we want to
do the speculating far ahead and just think about who
the best threat in the East is. I said before
the season, I thought it was probably gonna be Brooklyn.
And that was after I saw Kevin Durant look like
Kevin Durant and before they even made the trade for

(01:13:33):
James Harden. I think where they get a little bit
nicked is that Jeff Kreen is out and we'll see
when he's back. But I think that the most recent
report is like ten days and that puts them sin
in the spot where they're already pretty thin, especially against
Milwaukee team that has Janice and brook Lopez and some
real threats at the rim. So to me, whoever wins
that series, I think is going to represent the East.
I would like him to beat to beat Philly in

(01:13:54):
the conference finals, and I would give the slight nod
to Brooklyn except that they have to get you know,
have to get green back so that they're pretty whole
in that front court. So, Mike, you said you would
like them to be Philly, Why are you bebout to
beat up on my Philip? So that semantics like like
meaning I would pick that have semantics? Okay, Yeah, I

(01:14:19):
don't know if he has a favorite in that race. Uh.
And so let's assumed that it would be, uh, Milwaukee
or Brooklyn. And let's assume it's the I think the
NBA's dream scenario. Right, you get New York market and
you get the l A market in the finals. Uh,
And it's Lakers nets well, and again we're projecting pretty
far out. But that's that's the good thing about sports radio.
We get to do that. Um, who do you who

(01:14:41):
will believe that matches? I won't necessarily say who do
you predict the winner? Say as much as just who
what do you look at in that matchup? Is there
an advantage in certain areas? Obviously I'm gonna think you're
gonna assume to say the bigs for the Lakers. So,
I mean, this is one of those things coming as
both of you guys know. The Lakers can really only
think about game for but we can think about potential matchups.

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And I would just say it's not just the Eastern
teams that they might face. It's the same thing in
the West. You can take the Clippers, Um, if they
rally to beat Dallas, you could think about, you know,
Denver in next round. If they continue to play well,
you could even think about Dallas if Luke is there, Like,
the Lakers are always going to have an edge um
at the at the big spot, and that's because of
Anthony Davis. But the reason that Anthony Davis, and this

(01:15:23):
kind of goes to Cantina's point earlier um about how
sometimes he doesn't necessarily have to dominate the game. Well,
let's just remember that he's got Lebron James, you know,
maybe the most physically dominant player that we've seen in
the NBA in recent history in terms of both ends
of the court transition has the basketball can score, And
that to me is still that difference maker. So if
you want to try to devote more resources to defending

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Anthony Davis, if you want to try to double him,
then guess what Lebron is gonna be on the other
side of the court, just ready to pick anything apart.
And so it always comes down to me. Whatever these
teams are, they're the best two way tandem in the
league where they can switch over onto your guards if
they have to, and they can also both get their
shot or get a teammate a shot. And and that
to me remains the different guys. I don't care who
the matchup is in East West. You talk that smack right, Yeah,

(01:16:07):
you're right about that. It's talk to the talk that
smack in the facts. I appreciate it. Hey, Mike Trudale,
thank you for joining us man. I'll see you soon again.
Best to you and your family. Mike Trudale, make sure
you check him out on Twitter and de Graam appreciate you, brother,
Um he said, he said a lot there, so it's
a lot to die. Sec. I want to take a
quick break now and come back also again and carry
this conversation about the fans, because I really want to

(01:16:27):
know is the NBA doing enough to protect its fans
when you have the biggest player in your sport calling
out the league, Lebron James, and he's done it before
about this, So what do you do, Commissioner Mobli? Tell
me that next Fox Sports Sunday, Saturday. Pick a day
one of these days. Uh, Sam, it's still more than
even on the East coast. Hold hold on now, hold on.

(01:16:48):
You just see Sam Yo yo, Sam, your house run man, listen,
Sam not playing down you go. It's a it's a
soccer mom listening to Will say. I wish everybody can
see saying right now man Letten. They do seeing that
he's doing in their car right now there and there
you got. You got some soccer moms on their way tworking.

(01:17:11):
You can't be talking. And God that not allow us
to work on Saturday morning with But alright, p Bernie
mc alright, so a couple of minutes left before this
break in, so I want to get this in quickly.
Is the NBA doing by the way, you're listening to
Jason McIntyre show, but it's Calvin Washington Contino MOBILEI in
Fox Sports Sunday, Um Contino. I want to get this

(01:17:32):
straight to it. Is the NBA doing enough to protect
players from the audience, from the crowd, from these people
who are idiots? Now. The reason why I said perspective
earlier was because I don't want to make it like
it's every fan, right, ninety plus percent of these fans
come to the gang. Yeah, some yell and some yell
some stupid things. And I think they're idiots too, because
at what point do you call somebody a racial slur,

(01:17:53):
this slur, homophobics or whatever. You know, It's just a
basketball game. So I think there are idiots who need
to learn their lessons in that regard. But most people
come have a good time. Most people don't how to
hecko you guys in a good way, you know what
I mean? They just have some fun but nothing crazy.
There's always the idiot, like I said, at the club,
who wants to ruin things The question is, to you,
is the NBA doing enough to protect players where they

(01:18:15):
don't publicly it seems like bash the fans who do that.
Maybe it's because fans, they know, pay the bills, fans
watch the games, and and and and that's how they
get these huge TV deals. But the players Lebron Russell
a Lot, Kevin during have spoken out and they feel
that they're not protected. They don't do enough. So what
do you do? Do you make this hockey? Do we

(01:18:36):
put a level a barrier around these guys? Do you
make it football for Yeah, they're seventy five. People don't
think you get fifty yards between the player and the
and and the What do you do do you? I
don't think you get that drastic one. I think the
NBA is doing a great job. You can't control everyone,
especially when his alcohol okay, or when they just listen,

(01:18:59):
they've it's been a year and a half of lifting confinement.
People just they've been bottled up, right, And I'm not
saying that, listen, it's not They didn't just start saying
racial slurs Boston with Jason Kidd is I mean me
in Seattle. There's a lot of different things that people
say mean stuff period. That's just there in the moment, right,
and it's you could be a racist or you could

(01:19:19):
just be a person. That's just in the moment. And
just in keep up. There's women throughout our lives, whether
it's from with us or without us, and you've seen
it from friends or just on TV or whatever it
is they may ment to. But just saying, they may
say things at that moment to really get at you.
I'm talking about literally the worst, the worst, the worst word,

(01:19:44):
and they may not really mean it, but at that moment.
What up? He said, Yeah, So like they may not
really mean it at that moment, but they because it's
the moment, right, I'm going to say something to pierce you.
But I get that, So I don't I don't think, yeah,
I don't think they're drunk, they're idiots. Like I remember
when Ron artests now better World Peace. He was Ron

(01:20:06):
then had that interaction to Mouse of Palace. They ended
up he and that guy ended up coming like really
good friends because the guy was at a drunk period
in his life. He was he was losing his wife.
I believe I'm not mistaken. It was in a low
part in his life and he was just that was
a reflection of where he was as a person, and
he had to go to rehab and he finally started
to come up. My point, So I get what you're

(01:20:26):
saying there, but from get the money back to Stephen
and uh, yeah, because they should they lost millions. Yeah.
My question to you, though, is should they put the
person on blastmore? Should they go to jail for I'm
not saying for the rest of their life? Anybody a
weekend in jail something where it makes people go, oh shoot,

(01:20:46):
let me not do X, I mean, not spit. You
have to make an example, and that's I think where
the players are saying they want to feel more protect
to make an example that we know nineties something people
in here are cool. It's just this one percent, you know,
And if there's somebody's yelling racial slur it shouldn't be
all you're kicked out of the game. It should be
is that a hate crime? And I'm not again I'm
not I'm not trying to overreact, and I don't know

(01:21:09):
the answer, but I think that's what they're trying to say.
Do you shouldn't be able to call me in word, this,
that and the other, And then just I got kicked
out of one game, No big deal. I'll be back tomorrow. Listen, listen.
It should be treated like anything else was. Its anti
semitic with all this other difference stuff. Right, if you
start throwing around the inn word, if you start getting
real derogatory and things like that, you should be that
one person you gotta get banned. There's no problem. I'm

(01:21:30):
cool with you. You're done because now when he's doing
is telling everybody else you can't do this, and if
you do this, this is the penalty that you have.
And that's what I think the players want. They want
to feel more protected, they want to feel as though
the penalty is hard for these fans. The great freak
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People are enjoying basketball. You see the fans in the

(01:22:13):
stands and it feels good, sounds good, even though we
can't be there. Sometimes just here in the crowd crazy,
it feels good. Man eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven, should say six three six nine
or Coatino's Life for Kate of Live on Twitter. We
love here from you there. Yeah, is still early on
the West coast nine o'clock. Happy afternoon to all of
you on the East coast. All right, one of the team,

(01:22:34):
we haven't even gotten this. We've been doing radio for
a couple of hours now. A team we haven't really
talked about in, a team that seems on a mission,
a team that seems like they are focused, A team
that seems like they're like, hey man, all that smack
y'all been talking not having it this year? Hey man,
I'm oh self aware enough to know that I have
some flaws in my game. And the general manager in

(01:22:56):
the front office is aware enough that they ain't went
and found some very good complimentary pieces. And that is
the Milwaukee Bucks. If you were the poke holes at
Janice's game, We're all gonna say, right, it's the jump shot,
it's the free throws, it's the ability and crunch time
to maybe get a bucket. So they go and get
a couple of guys who can fill in those voyds. Right,

(01:23:17):
they go get a Drew Holiday eight almost plus free
throw shooter, quality guy, A great person, right, a guy
who can get his own bucket or create. You've been
seeing that lately. He's getting your twenty one then to
get your fourteen assists? A guy who can you know,
who can even take the pressure off Chris Middleton? Right,
they need to save their their DNA to holidays. Yeah, man, dude,

(01:23:40):
come on, that might be the where's the thirty for that?
I said, we talked about brothers and all, and by
the way, they ball the ball, but not like the
three three and the sister. The Holiday sister is running
track and I want to say with she's like Olympic containing.
I literally want to I want them seriously a message, yo,
Kai promise you man, if I'm never associate, I'm so serious.

(01:24:03):
The parents need to write a book now, Nothing against
any other nationality, race, nothing like that, because I listen,
I love them all, but it needs to be more
minorities writing books about how they raise it. Look at
that they they have all the kids are smart. That's
it's not even just athleticism. They are great, they're smart,

(01:24:24):
they're kind of beautiful people like I just do you
know what I mean, Like I just I don't know
them personally, but the church that the boys, you know boys,
and I know that I know people who are around
them personally and they speak very highly of the Holiday.
So big shout out to the Holiday families at local
out here in Los Angeles and they're they're doing great things.
But and Drew Holiday has been one of the better

(01:24:44):
players in the NBA we don't talk about, you know,
for the last seven eight years, he's been awesome. He
kind of like a Mike Kindly all star caliber, might
not make it um, he has been tremendous for this team.
Janice has heard everybody's criticisms and talking about it and
he has just got someone Okay, yeah, I want to
hear that. And then they said little finessis right, a
little too FINESSI for me, people were saying, right, it's

(01:25:06):
either Jannice or a bunch of threes or or a
bunch of guys who are you know little maybe you
wouldn't think of him as tough. Well, they go out
and get one of the toughest guys and also has
the greatest shoe collection in the NBA. And p J
Tucker and they go get p J. Tucker. And he
said with dogs in the press conference the other day
said we're dogs. Now they go get Bobby Porters, another
guy tough to get you a bucket and dog whoever

(01:25:30):
it is, somebody eye socket is getting the tech. So
you got Bobby Porters, you got p J. Tucker, and
you got what's holiday Drew Holiday. Great additions like maybe
the best edition the NBA weren't outside of of course
with the Brooklyn the next And this is making this
team a team to be wrecking with man and it
allows Johanna to just be honest and don't worry Chris

(01:25:52):
Middleton can't hit a shot, Drew Holliday, you don't have
to worry. If if their triple teaming you, you don't
have to force it right. You find your group, find
your pace. He's playing on the block a little bit
more Milwaukee, man, They're a scary tea. Yeah, Milwaukee scary.
You know what. The reason why I'm saying this is

(01:26:12):
because listen Drew Drew, like I said before Holiday, I
love everything about him and his family. Um, p J.
Tucker is my young buck. I love him to death. Okay, Portis.
I don't really know him well, but I know he's
a hard player. You know what I'm saying. He plays hard,
he's he's a great additions for them. But it's just
it's johonnas for me right now, because Jonas is like listen,

(01:26:36):
don't get me wrong, it's not like a poor man's
Lebron James, but it's like you hold the ball, the
balls in your hands so much that Lebron James knows
exactly what he's doing. We talked about being a savant
and how to play the game the Rondo's Chris Paul's
and Steve nasher the Magic John's Lebron James of the world.
When you have the ball, decision making and the timely
manners that you use the ball, get us in the penalty,

(01:26:58):
get guys shots. It's that whatever I think, Janice, he
I don't even I don't think he thinks in that level.
It's just playing, coming down, passing if they come to
the you know, like, I don't think it's in that level.
I could be so wrong. He he's amazing better than
I was. If you have the ball that much. You

(01:27:19):
have the ball so much that the decision making because
Lebron James has guys playing in the rhythm, Chris Paul
has guys playing in the rhythm. Steve Nash had guys
playing in the rhythm. When you you're you're controlling the ball.
Your guys are playing in a rhythm. But listen what
I mean. I totally get what you're saying. But that's
why I brought up to Holiday. You got a guyho
played thirty four minutes and gave you nineteen points and

(01:27:40):
twelve assists. I mean, that's what I'm saying. This year
is different. I got to see so now, dear, So
what I'm saying is I have to see the next
round because Miami is not a good test. You know
why Miami is not a good test because they got
they got those sophomore blues. You know, it's like it's
like it's like your Hero and Jimmy and Duncan Robins.

(01:28:00):
The guys were heard and coming back, and you know,
they it seemed like they just partied too much in
Miami after the finals and they thought they were just
gonna come back with no problem. It just it felt
like that so I don't think they're tested yet. Plus
you have those three guys for Milwaukee that came in
that are dogs, you know what I mean. So now
I gotta see you against a really good team where

(01:28:21):
they shell you up like before, right when they really
show you up your honest and then now you see
the Drews and the Pj's and the Porters, I got
I need to see that. Once I see that and
I see that growth, then I can really say that
because right now for me, it's the it's the Sixers,
and then it's the Brooklyn Nets, Sixers Nets and then
and then I'm assuming, of course third will be me walking.

(01:28:43):
But it's gonna be interesting, I will say, because Milwaukee again,
I'm looking at guys like, uh, I like they brought
in the shooter from San Antonio, Brent Forbes, Ryan Forbes,
Let's just say Bryan Forbes. I mean from a winning program,
winning program. I mean, they really went out there and
got some great additions to this team, and I'm just
looking at them like man again, Bobby Porters gives you

(01:29:04):
eleven and nine. You get eleven from Forbes, uh, nineteen
and twelve from jew Holiday. That allows for them to
have a blowout win of one, thirteen and eighty four
and y'all's only had to give you seventeen rights. Again,
I like them a lot, but Miami has been playing great,
so until they go to another team where the Forbes

(01:29:26):
and the PJ. Tuckers in the ports and holidays really
show right now and they're playing, the playing, the walking,
the walking wounded like it's just do you know what
I mean? Like they're not. Miami hasn't been consistent in
their play. So when it's as amazing as their additions
has been this year, I need to see against it,

(01:29:46):
you know, a team that has some cohesiveness. I don't
think Miami has that because of all the disruption this
past year. Well, it'll be interesting to see UH Milwaukee
in the next round because I I feel I'm a
little higher on than than you are. I think there
is some because I also think there's the element of
what we talked about, you know this from the NBA
where you you kind of got to go through the blues,
you know, losing the second round, like you have to

(01:30:07):
work your way up to a finals appearance. In the NBA.
The NBA usually teaches you kind of gotta grow. I
love Milwaukee, though I do, I do sound more like
you like the city of Milwaukee. Then you like the
team I don't like, and then really happen? There another
another quick series to talk about for a couple of
minutes here before we get onto something else. Um is.
I wanted to touch on what Denver is able to

(01:30:28):
do in the Denver and in Portland's series there and
to me another Portland's in another situation to me similarly
to the Clippers, similarly to a couple of teams where
it's what do you do if this doesn't work out?
What I say? What you mean? If I say blow
that up? That went out? That's the that's stir in
lines the question do you blow up Portland's right now?
They're down to to one in that series, Yoki, you

(01:30:51):
talk about we're talking about Don Lucas Slow. No is
that too much? No? No, Brown Brown and Dame eighty.
That's just okay, that's just ridiculous. That sounds like that,
that sounds like a dream team. That's like not dream
Team ninety six or something like that is what are
we doing here? But that's a girl. There's the question,

(01:31:12):
and maybe we'll maybe we'll take a quick break here.
You get out here, you can come back and answer
that question, what do you do with a team like
Portland's that has been to the NBA playoffs eight years
in a row. Dame's gotten them to the Western Conference finals,
but not a single one of us in here look
at Portland's as a real contender and so much so
much so that Dame had to come into the playoffs like, well,
I know that y'all don't really see it, and sometimes

(01:31:34):
we don't see it, but we gotta see it because otherwise,
why are we going to the playoffs if we're not
gonna see it? But we just gotta do It's like,
you know what, Actually that was a poor Dame, because
if I was gonna do Dame, it should have been
more like this. We're gonna get to the playoffs. You're
about to see his Dame. Dollar boy spit flows, you know,
boy come through, knock him out like Broy Jones Jr.
I'm keeping it real. I'm gonna shoot you from Damn

(01:31:59):
is the best. He might be the best rapper in
all the sports. He might be the coolest young boy
I've ever met in my life. So dollar, some dollar Dame.
He's so put together. A matter of fact, find that
when we come back, I never see him super excited.
Just that little dance back in last year. That dance
back was it was it again to the the Lakers. It
was it was very slightly even. Look that was cool.

(01:32:23):
That was chill. So do you blow up the trauble?
A matter of fact, we're gonna call it this next
segment to blow up or not to blow up? That
is the question. We'll do that. Next is Fox Sports
suns Why do I keep wanting it to be Sunday, Sam,
because that was the last time I was saying was Sunday.
That's what it is, Fox Sports Saturday. Alright, So man,
I tell you what Jason McIntyre show, Fox Sports Radio,

(01:32:44):
Kelvin Washington and Contino Mobile, and that is uh my man,
Dame Dollar the best rapper in all of sports. Uh No,
disrespect to the late great Kobe Bryant who had an
album Chris Webber shot you know what, Shock didn't go
platinum and had a song with Biggie Smalls like I
would never I would never fake. I would never thrown

(01:33:06):
on Shock for that. Alan Iverson Lou Williams had some
bars Hey, I had it. I don't remember that I
had Hey, I had an album. I love you? Yeah,
but stick to whop. No, he did. He came back
to reality. I appreciate Kobe for that. By the way,
somebody just corrected us on Twitter. Well, uh you when

(01:33:29):
you said Kobe didn't invent black Mamba. They wanted they
wanted to let you know what they say that, and
they're right. I was going to correct you. By the way,
he didn't invent black Mama's from kill Bill and she
was like, I'm the black Mamba and he took that.
So he did kind of create that. He had to
create the image. Remember, he came out all the stuff
that happened his person in life and all that. He
kind of just switched numbers and he kind of changed

(01:33:49):
his mind. He can't create something that somebody already has. Well,
I'm saying he created by calling himself. But but but Nike,
he probably can't even say, Yo, listen, we need, we
need to catch we need something. You him, we need
are better than that. You knew he came to Nike. Listen,
I'm in the Mamba mentality book. So I got I got,
I got least I don't know who this person is. Uh,
this person is uh tantrum gasm. I don't even know

(01:34:12):
what that means. Now, yeah, I don't know. I actually
don't want to know what that means. And by the way,
it shouts everybody Katino's life came up life for myself
on Twitter? Who's been reaching out? Tim said he sent
us uh showing how Lebron is getting busy on on
Jake Crowder shout to him for that. Who else reached out?
Paul Ross tweeted us the sees are back because JT
Jason Tatum putting work on the nets single handedly carrying

(01:34:34):
him to a w You ain't lying about that and
this person is right leads me to a conversation when
to have with you on the other side of what's trending?
Troy said, Uh, actually I'm just pause it. Troy said
something that I want to get to momentarily with you,
But all right, continue to blow up or not to
blow up? That is the question. Since we just came
in with the bars of the best rapper in all
of sports, shout to a Lonzo Ball By the way,

(01:34:56):
he can rap a little bit. It's I don't like
I ain't even here it. I don't like it. I
think you'll be surprised. I need to hear Sam, you
got someone lately, give me one of those, give me
a Linzo later and and Dame is the only one.
Like we come from listening, We we around the same major.
We come from real hip hop. And so then Alonso

(01:35:21):
is a little Alonzo is more of the savage meats.
Ya your money back, yo, Yeah, it's a combination of that. Yeah,
I'm cool on that. Yeah, Yeah, it's cool. You can
tell Ryan was Ryan. He was like, I have no
what about money bags? I don't know if you're talking
about it's back? How do you what? You listen back to?
Money around? What you're listening to? Um, Sublime, Blink two?

(01:35:44):
What's your what's your deal? Yeah? A lot of medal
and you do a lot of medal and punk? Yeah,
oh you like ben Affleck and uh in the Accountant
huht story, it's real dim. That's actually funny. That was
come out, come you come out calm, keep doing that.

(01:36:04):
But I don't want to not to happen. Yeah right, right,
we cool. We brothers coming over the house, Mom, some
chicken something. Sam, what are you listening to? I listened
all kinds of stuff. I'm actually like more of like
a deep down like in my personal time, I listen
a lot of blues you deep down black, you black,
deep down, and I mean to listen, But I also

(01:36:25):
listen to rock and grunge, like and hip hop. So
I don't like that you said. But also I said,
black people can't listen to gunga but also just listen
to Wait, Who's Who's the Chuck Berrys won right, It's
all related, It's all it's all related. There you go.
You know a lot of grunge music is founded on blues,
just like a drop. There you go, there you go listen.

(01:36:46):
That's why. That's why Sam was black when not this
life wife before Sam was black. No, I listened, might
be like you said, Sam is Ernie Johnson black? Like
every do you know? People actually do you know? They
act like no, Like I read his book, They for
real think he's like they think, oh, he's just like
creole like some people actually really think and not to

(01:37:08):
mention his last name Johnson. So he's the coolest thing ever. Yeah, No,
I'm a massive fan of Earnie. Who is there a
person who isn't He won't say nothing wrong like you
like bad, like think about it. Earn it's crazy at
chalking then check and Kinny's always uh philosophers, fantastic. He

(01:37:29):
always doing what you're doing. He got that pen all
the time. He said, you know what I mean. Listen, listen, maestros,
you know what I mean when you gotta know how
to just keep it okay, keep what you say? All right?
So now all right, Dollar, Dame Dame Dollar and the
crew Portland Trailblazers, let's start there. They're bringing it. First
of all, the league did Carmelo Anthony so bad? Somebody
put on a great Twitter thread. I mean it was

(01:37:50):
like literally ten tweets in each one was character like
the entire max capacity. But it was well written. Jamal
Crawford retweeted, which which is what he said, Oh what
does this? Essentially their point was how the NBA does players,
and they put you in this box, they put you here.
Then through an injury, then you have to fight back.
Then the narratives becomes he's not the same, and then
everybody says you're not. But then you have to buy

(01:38:11):
into well, why don't you be a lesser version of yourself?
And then because you're not what you thought. Then we
get to put you in the bed and it goes
to the sole thing. And he said, that's what happened
to d Rows and Carmelo and guys like Isaiah Thomas.
Like Asai said, Isaiah is eighteen and six right now
if you let him be Isaiah Thomas. But I brought
that up to say Carmelo is now playing well with
the Portland Trail Blazes, just kind of revived his career.
C J. McCullum is an all star like guy, We

(01:38:33):
already know what Dame is, you know, top two point guard,
top two three. However you want to do it, maybe
Lucas step him um, but it just ain't working. Nrk
it's just back healthy, playing pretty well, but it ain't working.
Maybe they just went up against the m v P
and you say, man, if there was another team, they'd
have a shot. But even Dame coming in was like, look,
a lot of people don't consider a single tender. So

(01:38:54):
G M. Mobley, it's time to blow this up? Is
it time to look what you can get for? C J. McCullum.
Is its hind the package up? Nurkic and something? I mean,
what do you do do you run it back, you say, hey,
at least we're in the playoffs every year and giving
ourselves at least a chance. Um, I think they need
a defensive coach. That's one I think. Yeah, I think

(01:39:16):
two in the Terris an amazing coach. I love him, right.
He let those guys play, flourish builds and grow individually.
It's kind of like Rudy thom Jonavans did for myself
Steve Francis, where he just let us make mistakes and
become better. Uh. The only crazy thing is that Rudy
got sick and then you know, Jeff and Gundy came
in and after one year blew us up um and

(01:39:36):
it didn't work for them, you know what I mean?
Even though you had Tracy McGrady didn't even get out
the first round. So I think, what what Portland's I
think Nerk was hurt? He comes back Collins hurt, right,
like McCullum, back problems sometimes and this and that, and

(01:39:57):
it's like they're never really they're never really all around
healthy either. But let's say they were though, let me
throw okay, let's say they were healthy. Is that a
caliber championship caliber team? I don't think any of us
would say there. I think they say the playoffs. But
my first thing I said was, you need a defensive coach.
Even if you have Terry as the head, you still

(01:40:18):
need that defensive like dct Rivers had defensively Tims like
you had a defensive coach with those schemes. Terry doesn't have.
I don't think he does because if they always lasted defense,
do you know what I mean? Like I first try
that first. First, get a defensive coach to come in
and do that, right, Like I think, do that first

(01:40:39):
because you have two amazing backcourt and then you have
one of the best scores ever at the three. Then
you have pow who came in. He's great energy, young guy, right,
and then maybe hopefully Collins comes back whenever. I just
it's just like Boston. They never really get a full
year together. Just and you know that's that's so you say,

(01:41:01):
running back with a defensive minded coach. Okay for me,
At some point you have to explore. Now here's the thing.
Here's an ugly secret right about sports. We always championship, championship, championship,
where a lot of organizations know we ain't win an
championship for the most part. Right, Well, I mean for
the maybe it will happen one day, but they're not
the Lakers or the Celtics or or the Spurs where
they're like, no, we really, you know, believe in winning champion.

(01:41:24):
We have to, Like Portland, do they really have to
win the championship? I know the Dame wants to and
I know, but I'm I'm talking organizationally, you get what
I mean. Some teams can kind of be like, hey man,
we're making the playoffs. There's nothing, We're the only team
in town. They love us, we do great numbers, and
we have a team that we know is not out
here playing bad or tanking. So the fans can at
least say, man, we made the playoffs. I know they

(01:41:44):
didn't win, but at least they were there. The Jazz
being another organization where it's like, dude, as long as
we're in the playoffs, compete offensively, defensively. Yeah yeah, they
know that's really they're a real deal contender. But I'm
just wondering if Portland's are you happy with just being
just good enough? I don't, I don't, I don't. Did

(01:42:05):
you feel that in the NBA that certain teams can
get away with just being good enough, like as Memphis,
what we're in the playoffs and we're competitive. I don't
think that's not there. That's not do DNA. You think
they listen, job are to me give him two years
best in the league point guard? Well, of course from
Luca Luca putting Luca can't that's like saying jay z
Locas approached that out of here. Long as you say that,

(01:42:29):
I'm all right, but don't get it twisted job that
guy is that guy? Guy, I got no argument on
Twitter Lucas jay z Jah is a little baby on
his way. He's not a little baby. That's a compliment.
The little baby is a hottis in the game right now.
But your you got your babies wrong. Little baby. It's

(01:42:55):
argument what Sam saying up, but not by which one's hot.
This man. No, we're about to take. We're taking this
little baby is running rap including Drake. Little baby cannot
be running. Drake is right. No, no no, no, including Drake.
Little baby. Look up with Fat Joe. Fat Joe just

(01:43:16):
broke down the top five. He said it's little baby
Drake Cardi b uh, I don't even know who else.
Dub baby didn't the dub baby. I like him, but
he ain't little baby. Oh my god. You got your babies,
but I probably got my baby from you got your
like you know you got your babies wrong. We were
I'm gonna take this to Twitter and Instagram to to
confirm that they got two gay alright. So so the Celtics.

(01:43:41):
The Celtics is another team I'm gonna throw at you
here and the Clippers if they if both teams were
to lose, what it looks like, Hey, it's a great thing.
They're both down to one in their series. Do you
blow those up as well? We'll get to them on
the other side right now. Is what trending with Isaac
bo Front, Kelvin and Catino sad NBA news Today, multiple
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(01:44:02):
Year Mark Eaton has passed away at the age of
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City reports that Eaton went for a bike ride around
eight p m. Last night in Summit County, Utah, which
is just east of Salt Lake City, and did not return.
No foul play is suspected, but his cause of death
is as yet unknown. Eaton led the NBA and block

(01:44:24):
shots four times. And here is a classic Mark Eaton
performance from nineteen eighties six when Eaton's Utah Jazz took
on Michael Jordan's Bulls at the Old Chicago Stadium with
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(01:44:45):
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by the way, with sixteen points, thirteen rebounds, and ten
blocks for a triple double. Truly one of the great

(01:45:08):
shot blockers in NBA history. Today's NBA Playoff Action tips
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And we've got one Major League Baseball game going on
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one inning in Pittsburgh in game one of a double header.

(01:45:31):
Kelvin and Katino back to you, all right, thank you
Isa again. Yeah, r I p to market And I
was just telling Katino about that. Yeah, he he definitely,
uh you know, was a heck of defensive player. What
was he seven ft four? What he? Thank you was
seven ft four. That's just a whole lot of human
being right there. So R I p to him for sure.
All right, so quickly I want to throw those at
two games. Boston Celtics. Right, you got Jalen Brown who's out,

(01:45:53):
but even when he was healthy, they couldn't get it done.
He made the Eastern Conference Finals a couple of years
in a row. Jason Tatums is a stud and Jalen
is an All star. Marcus Smart is one of those
players you need. He is very smart on both ends
of the court. You know, jacks up some shots as
you'd rather than not. But you kind of gotta take
the good and bad with him. They got a young
coach and Brad Stevens. Maybe that's wearing out. Maybe it's
time for somebody else, a different voice. Maybe Danny Ains.

(01:46:14):
You mentioned this to me, is Danny Ains been doing
too much, and that they had Isaiah Thomas and they
got rid of him the heart and soul of the team.
Right then you bringing Kyrie and kind of disrupt the function.
Gordon Hayward never really worked out, wasn't healthy just and
it's never really worked. Is it time to blow not you?
You ain't doing nothing with Tatum who just dropped the
fifty piece on the nets. That ain't happening, right, we
know that, But do you start to explore some things?

(01:46:38):
Do you maybe look at what you can get for
Marcus Smart, Do you look at what you can get
for a Jalen Brown even though he's a young All Star?
Or do you ride this thing out? But knowing that
Brooklyn is in your way in the east, knowing that
Milwaukee looks like they ain't going nowhere, and knowing that
Philadelphia have two guys that are crazy talented under what
twenty six years old is I think you go look

(01:46:59):
for It's it's very unfair. I think you listen as
being a player and then now you you're kind of
like sitting in the backseat where was kind of like
front office kind of now because you can't play anymore myself. Uh,
it's it's very unfair and playing the game to blow
up a team where you don't have your full team
and then uh, you know it's been it's been the

(01:47:19):
move moving to you know, musical chairs, right, So Isaiah
and then Kyrie and then Kimba and then first and
gets hurt and you know, Gordon Hayward leaves because blood
and it's you have three guys that play the same position,
and you know who do you start and you know
the rhythm of the game. And then you bring in
Kimba Walker, who's I think is an amazing point guard,

(01:47:39):
but he's not more of a distributor where you need
that on this type of team. And then you needed
a big that can really get me buckets as well.
So that Andre Drummonds of the world. Maybe he did
how to work there. Um. I think the young like
I said before, a young rondo, you know where you
you're just passing, you're making sure, you know, like a
jam Morant with them where he doesn't really need the

(01:48:01):
ball kind of think. You know, he's justin's passing the
ball to his guys. That because Jalen Brown to me
and Jayson Tatum I think is top two when it
comes to two and three in the league. There's no
one else that's as good as those two. When it
comes to what other two and three in the league
playing together, is that good? Well, I think what I mean,

(01:48:23):
Clippers would have something to say with that top two
and both play, they both score, they both like there's
no one really like that that's out there. You got
the Brooklyn guys, but like the two to three, it's like, gosh,
those guys are so good. I want them to have
a chance to be able to be successful together consistently

(01:48:47):
with the right pieces, and you have like pieces, you
know what it is when I'm hearing from Contino, Ryan,
Ryan Contino don't like to blow notting up. You don't
want to blow anything up. He's like, let let let
let Portland rock a little bit more. Let Boston rock
a little bit more. You don't want to blow what
can I say something? Okay, So when we played that
was with the Rockets, me and Steve Frances, Yeah, big time.

(01:49:08):
So listen, So we played with we played, I was
with the Rockets and and oh four the Lakers beat
us in five, right, and it was a five game
series and call Malone had like thirty that's like I
guess that was the pivotal point where boom they get
over the hump, boom they go to the finals. That
year we played them nine times, it was five four

(01:49:29):
nine times they play so they beat us by one game, right,
so and then one of those games overtime game whatever
it was. But my point try to maker is like
the next year Jeff and Gundy blew us up, where
it's just one year, you just add something or tweak something.
We just known in your offense. We're like high octane guards.
Let's figure something out. Did you stay did you play

(01:49:51):
with Mac? No? No, me, Steve Francis and Calvin Cato,
three starters from a team that just lost to the Lakers,
that lost in the unfined and the reason they lost
it because you know, I guess Cold wanted to be
m VP and not Shock and whatever. It was disrespect
like that, but continue no, but I love him because
they was getting busy. Okay, yeah, but you know what
I'm saying, Like it's just T Mack. It was five

(01:50:13):
guys that came from Orlando. Three went to Orlando, myself,
Steve and Calval Kado, right, so T Mac, Juwan Howard
and three other guys went to Houston Rockets, right, Like,
I just you guys were you guys were fun to
watch because you were energetic. You've seen to get along amazingly. Well,
it was you guys were really really funny and and

(01:50:35):
franchise was really starting to kind of find that that
mesh with with y'all. But then if it's our fifth,
sixth year, and then now I think Michael were nowhere
near Michael Jordan. But I'm saying Mike didn't even get
to his point to the seventh eighth year and had
had a few years, and you don't understand I'm saying.
So yeah, So it's like for us, you got Jeff
Fan Gundy's in the Tom Thibodeaus because that's what our
coach was and our assistant coach, and both were very

(01:50:56):
defensive minded. Now they could have tweaked a little bit.
I think, ain't Jeff in him because they were possession ball, right,
So it's like, okay, both teams are gonna have seventy
seven possessions. I'd rather a hundred possessions, right, But especially
when you're dealing with two guys this averaging forty in
the backcourt, you mind as well, let's let's get up
about attempts and people don't notice about y'all mean, y'all mean,

(01:51:17):
was like Chris Webber and the Brad Miller's and the
Vladi Divax where he at the high post at the
elbow passed that ball so well, yea was? Yea was
y'all not? Lebron asked when I say this, but as
far as your passing? What you heard? Right? He comes
in with all, yeah. I was like, oh, shoot, y'all.
I was a real, real, real threat. He's a real player.

(01:51:40):
If we would have had the Rick Adaman's offense but
the Jeff and Gundy Tom Thibodeau's defense, well you'd won it.
It was crap, I'm telling you. Rick Adaman's offense where
the Biggs or high Now Calvin Kado no, because he's
not a shooter at the elbow, so he's not no threat.
They'll sag off of him. That messes everything up. But
if you have another forward were four and you could

(01:52:00):
have found that person, you know. That's my point. So
if you we had Jim Jackson, come on, we were
That was a great team. That team was a really
good team. It's just that the Lakers had Gary Payton
and Kilbe Bryant and you could have just said Shack
and Kobe. Think you saw that that alone is a
lot to do with Yeah. Um, So that's why I'm

(01:52:22):
like blowing up teams, especially what I'm like, Man, you
don't want to blown nothing up? And I'm usually with you,
like I don't want to give another shot, giving a try.
Everybody can be great. Remember's gonna blow something up? Um.
Once again, I do think what matters though, it ends
up being what is your this organization? Like can are
we looking at it as um a real championship contending organization?

(01:52:42):
Are we just in low key? We wouldn't say this
to the media, but we're just happy to be, you know, around,
And I do think that that plays a role. And lastly,
the blow it up or not? And I think the
answer is no for you. But this maybe it's a
little different than this one, Paul, George Kauhi Leonard, Now, Tyl,
I throw the same question out to you. Right, they
got rid of Doc Rivers because he was a problem, right,
Doc your offense? You don't really know the game like that,

(01:53:04):
you know, we need some more basketball mind to Hey,
this is what they said, this is what they said.
You bring in Tyler right that because he's because Doc's
the issue. And you bring into, you know, a couple
other players. Now you have all this talent Reggie Jackson,
you got uh Kawhi Leonard, you got Paul George, you
got all these, you know, these talented players, and we

(01:53:24):
find ourselves where the Mavericks teams. That's good because they
got Luca. But outside of Luca they got they got players,
but not like real players of Cork. Porzingis Unicorn is
killing unicorn. I don't know what he nine points four
or five rebounds, I don't know what jumpers. Yeah, well,
well there in lines the problem with version of the NBA. Unbelievable.

(01:53:47):
God forbid a big man, go dominant. God, get down low, bro?
What is no? No? What is what is down low?
The only thing they know all that is that's all
they know. They don't do. They don't get down on
the block anymore. Do you blow up the Clippers if
this faster, say they even win another game against the
mask with Mas win in six, the Mas win in seven,
or do you say, you know, do you ride this

(01:54:09):
thing out? I'm gonna jump out and say you say,
ride this thing out because of your blow up PTZ.
But no, okay, okay, I don't blow up. I don't
blow up. I would It's okay, you know, that's kind
of confusing. It's not confused. It's kind of like because

(01:54:32):
I love that Kauai and Paul, but they just don't
have a Now, Rondol's there, but they don't have that point.
They don't have that starting point to keep them in
the rhythm throughout the year. Basketball is about rhythm, and
Patrick Reviley is not. He's not He's not about him.
He has ran, it's core. He's had a heck of another,

(01:54:53):
made a career or another. We can let that go,
you know, probably like he's probably go ahead and get
a haircut, that go, like, we can move forward on that.
So Pat, So let's get Pat out of there. So
I think they need a point guard that's going to
literally play d get them in their offense, keep a rhythm,
you know with these guys, and then they have too
many guys that play the same position, right, you need

(01:55:16):
it sounds like you're saying blow it up. Yeah, yeah,
I guess you know, you can't just say it like
a therapist. But Patino. We're working through this thing, Coatino,
we're working through this. Yes, Jef and Gundy may have
been better on TV than he wants to a coach
for a certain point, and he's a good coach, but man,
he's really really good on TV and he blew you up.

(01:55:37):
Do you forgive him? We're working through this. Can you
forgive him? Can you put it in the past? I can't, man.
Can you look at the clippers and say, Man, this
ain't working. Let's blow it up? Sam, drop it? Yeah,
I don't. I don't. I don't think you know what,
Blow them up. That's what I want you to do
that for the rest of this weekend. I want you

(01:55:58):
to find some things to blow up. Oh man, this
isn't happening. This that we had the plans. Man, it's
not working out. Maybe we should blow these plans up.
Blow the plans up up. Just you you kind of
think about it? Are you a harder? Do you have
a bunch of stuff? I don't know. Let me see
a picture garage I need to know, let me see. No,

(01:56:20):
he's thinking about that. Maybe it's not even my stuff. Okay,
all right, to make it sure, all right, Catino Mobile
is here. I want to I want to end it
on this one. Naomi a Saki, fantastic tennis player, seems
to be a great person, uh and it seems to
be really walking in her womanhood and activism. But she
kind of ticked off a lot of people in the press,

(01:56:41):
a lot of media. And yes, I have to tell
you former players just told Ryan Houses last week, Yes
you are media. Now you are media, Katino. Uh. And
what she is wanting to do at the French shop,
but we'll explain, We'll do that next Fox Sports Radio
and Boom goes to Dynamite. No, it's all good, It's
all good, Sam, thank you, man, I appreciate it. I

(01:57:04):
didn't even hear this one. I don't even know this
was a good one. No, no, you know this beat
is not to beat. But let's over this. No, no,
this would have been too hip hop and it's much
more trap beat. All right, we got a few more manutes.
I wanted to throw this out at you Coatino moment,
Washington with you and this is uh an interesting. Naomi Asaki,

(01:57:25):
who was super talented, is one of few majors arguably
the best, if not you know, one of the best
Osaka if I didn't say I'm sorry, Naomi osaka Um.
She announced on her Twitter that an Instagram I'm gonna
try to pare phrase a bit. She said, Hey everyone,
hope you're all doing well, and rightness to say, I'm
not doing any press during Rolling Girls, which is the
French Open. I've often felt that people have no regard

(01:57:47):
for athletes, mental health and the things uh, and this
ring is very true whenever I see a press conference
or partaking ones. She went on to say, we're often
sat there and ask questions that were asked about multiple
times before, or ask questions that bring doubt into our minds.
And I'm not and I'm just not going to subject
myself to people that doubt me. I've watched many clips
of athletes breaking down after a loss and press room,

(01:58:08):
and I know you have as well. I believe the
whole situation is kicking a person while they're down, and
I don't understand the reasoning behind it. Me not doing
press is nothing personal to the tournament and a couple
of journeys of interview me since I was young, so
I have friendly relationship with most of them. However, if
the organizations think they can just keep saying do press
or you're gonna be fine, and she goes, I'm just
gonna stop there. She went on to say, fine, find me,

(01:58:30):
I'll pay it, and I hope you do something good
with that money. So I said that to ask you.
Some will say, look, we need the press, right, you
need to pick up you need the to big up
your sports so that it becomes popular, so people are
engage in it, they want to participate. Others say, what's
the use of it? Now? We have social media, we
have things like players tribute, and we have you know,

(01:58:51):
these guys have their own podcast. You're starting when everybody
has their own voice. Now, I'll quickly I'll throw out
too sent out. I think right now out what you're
you're finding is a balancing act. And it's and it's
it's trying to find where it's gonna land and and
and then fit where The media the last fifteen years,
not specifically every media outlet, but blogs right us talking

(01:59:15):
head sports media right, we got debate shows where I
have to take this side, you have to take this side.
Let's tear down athlete X as opposed to saying they
had a bad game. We're gonna tear him down. Yeah,
they had a gag game. He's terrible, he's trash, get
him out here. And I think athletes are saying, I'm
tired of that, and they have their own voices, and
not to mention activism, because she has become very she's very,
very active. She's a very active in activism and philanthropy.

(01:59:37):
Her and her boyfriend Corday is a rapper, really good
um and they're both very woke. And so I think
athletes are balancing activism, they're balancing having their own voice,
and I think it's gonna eventually will will come to
a happy medium again where they realize you kind of
do need the media, you kind of help, you know,
help sell your sports, help sell your brand, but also
we understand that you want to have a voice, and

(01:59:57):
we're okay with that. So I think we're trying to
find So I don't think we need to bash or
if you disagree or or you know, or bash the media,
because not all media outlets are bad and not all journalists.
There are journalists who do an excellent job, who are
fair and balanced. So I think we're just trying to
find it out right now, because for the first time
in really thirty forty years, athletes are finally using their
voices for things that matter to them, because in the

(02:00:18):
in the late eighties, nineties, and two thousand, it was
about money. Look money, I'm playing my sport. I ain't
got time for much else publicly, that is, I don't
want to hurt the brand. And that's that's my that's
my take on is that will come to a place
where it's an even kill. But right now, athletes, especially
young ones, are saying, you mean to tell me I
can be an athlete, get paid and still speak up.

(02:00:40):
Oh I'm gonna do that. Well, yeah, listen, even dating
back to Jim Jim Brown and uh create exactly, we
haven't had it quite like time. Right, you're dating back
to all those type of gentlemen um and even the
females back then who actually didn't even have a voice,
but they were speaking up from behind so many people
to articulate that for the women. You know, I think
there's a happy medium. Right. There's there's supersensitive athletes, and

(02:01:03):
then there's there's uh, you know, uh reporters and journalists
out there that just yeah, they're just mean. Right, I
think we both should have Uh, this is very important,
uh kay that we have um and try to work
on our emotional I Q okay. So um. You know
when when when there is a question that's you want

(02:01:25):
to ask, that you want to ask as a as
a journalist or you the report or whatever you want
to be uh you know, taking a consideration if that's
with me, how would I answer it or or the
circumstances that's going on. And then you have on the
other side, as a player or as an athlete, how
do I answer this without feeling as though I'm being
rude or it's very short stern right. So it's like

(02:01:48):
my mom always say, right, you teach people how to
treat you. So my questions or my answers will dictate
exactly how you should be able to treat me as
an individual. Well, it's gonna be interesting to see this
plays out because you got Kevin Durant. Remember when he
has to do interviews with Charles Barkling and he didn't
say anything. He's rumpy. And I think we're in this
weird phase where again, I don't have to do this,
so I'm not going to and and and there's so

(02:02:10):
many blog sites and all these things that were bashing
the athletes. So I think, like you said, we're gonna
get to a good place where we'll it'll finally be
balanced again. But right now, athletes want to do it
how they want to do it, and I enjoy doing
the show with you, brother. We'll do it again soon,
fox Man

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