July 31, 2021 • 47 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress react to a temporary cease fire in the war between Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers, as Rodgers returns to the team and commits to this season. The guys break down who now has the leverage and what this season will look like for the team. LaVar explains why he believes the whole debacle is a testament to the Packers lack of confidence in Jordan Love.
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got a lot of topics to get to today. I
am assuming, just the way our shows seem to go,
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isn't long enough stretch. So but but clearly, the biggest
topic and the biggest conversation, uh, of everybody's shows has
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been Aaron Rodgers and and it's listen, it's Aaron versus
the Packers. All right, So that's something we're gonna talk
about and and and we got a lot to get to. Uh.
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You know, be cool to us, you know. If not,
you know it is what it is. But all right, uh,
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let's jump into it, bro like Aaron Rodgers and and
this is how it's written on our our show Rundown,
because this is exactly what it is. There's a war
going on outside. No one is safe from You can run,
but you can't hide forever. Aaron Rodgers versus the Packers.
Um so far in the battles that are waging and
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taking place, who's winning so far? Plex And and just
let me know why you think that that that particular
side of it isn't is in good shape with winning
a couple of couple of battles within the war. To
be honest with you, I really don't know who's winning
the battle. I really don't. Because last week we we
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talked about the You know, Aaron Rodgers posting to Michael
Jordan and Scottie Pippen, the last dance had had the
last dance already happened, which, by the way, you said,
the last dance at Rogers taking me look bad. That's
what I'm getting ready to get to. Let me explain
what I gotta say. All right, So this is what
I don't understand. Um, there's so many moving pieces to
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this whole. Aaron Rodgers saga that I don't understand. I
don't understand some of the situation. I don't understand some
of the decisions that your front office and the general
managers are making. And Rodgers said he wasn't happy with
the Green Bay Packers. He wasn't going to return this season,
and you bring back round the car. So I just
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don't understand what's going on. My take is this, So
Aaron Rodgers said he doesn't want to come back. It's
that it's that old saying. Money talks and the rest
of that stuff can keep on walking. So they avoid
this too. They avoid this three contracts, so he's basically
on a two year deal. He takes a pay cut
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of nine million dollars. He bridge brings his salary down
the twenty seven million, and they bring round the car back.
So why did you get random Why why did you
get Randall carb in in the first place? Was it
performance base or did you release him or cut him
to save money? So now you bring him back, he's
basically making the same salary that he was making the
green Baby before he left. So why did you get
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rid of him in the first place? Okay, you draft
the Mary Rogers. You say he's gonna he's gonna fill
the shoes of what Randall Cobb was doing while he's
in Green Bay. Now you're being rounding the car back.
So with with all that being said, in two thousand
twenty two, and Rodgers is gonna make forty forty six
million dollars. So now we move on to Jordan's love.
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How do you think he feels the whole offseason they've
been talking about Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is not going
to be the understenter for the Green Bay Packers this season.
Now and Rogers walks in the building, and now Jordan's
love he doesn't exist anymore. So he sounds a four
year deal coming in as a rookie, So he basically
has two years left on his deal, which he knows
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in the next two seasons this twenty two seasons that
he's not going to play. So what does that leave him?
How does how does how do you feel if you're
Jordan's love? They bring back Aaron Rodgers and signed him
basically a two year deal, and you know that you
have basically two years left on your deal and you're
not going to get a chance to play football. Are
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you gonna resign with the Green Bay Packers two years
from now? Nobody has taped on Jordan's Love. Nobody has
is going to get a chance to see what he's
able to do, So for him mentally, like where is
he yet? Mentally? So we don't know what's gonna happen
with that whole situation. But you know, and writer said
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he wants to take on a bigger role with the
Green Bay Packers. I don't understand what that means. But
he got his good friend Rendal Car back. I guess
that makes him happy. So then you have Rental car,
you have a Marit Rodgers, you have Vivante Adams, you
have a great group of wide receivers. But it doesn't
matter what the Green Bay Packers doing the regular season.
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Everybody knows that they are clearly the best team in
the NFC North. They're gonna walk through the NFC North.
What everybody wants to know and what they want to see.
What are the Packers going to do in the playoffs
if they just happened to run into the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers once again? What is going to happen? M all right?
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And that's that I think that that's an honest, sensible
take as well. I mean it does get a tap
bit confusing on on all of the details. I tend
to look at it and and listen. I've had the
opportunity to speak at it at nauseum this week, being
on FS one and and even being here in the
Mornings with with Jonas and Brady. Uh. You know what,
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plex I I really believe and I called it ether right.
It was an ethering of of the Ackers front office.
Aaron Rodgers has not been quoted at any point in
time directly until he came in and he reported in
so now all the way up until you seeing him
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walk into the facility, you did not know if what
Aaron Rodgers really was gonna do. It's all gonna be speculation.
No matter if somebody said he was reporting or if
they said he wasn't, it was gonna be speculation masterfully
done because if you can get people feeling that way
for that long, you've done a good job. Because that
ultimately was setting the stage for what he did next.
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What he did next, in my opinion, Uh, it tends
to it blows me away because the way he presented himself. Uh,
in his press conference, do we have a press conference
sound by the way that that I was requesting for
the green bat, Yeah, the vacation, Well, well, him talking
about um just what he wanted his involvement to be
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in his his understanding of of what's going on and
being a recruiter. Do we have that? Pull that up
for me? Because when he did this stretch and my
and my humble estimation, what he did was he set
the stage by not not clowning anyone directly, he let
the media speculate on if he was clowning them, and
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and and you know, there were reports coming out he
was unhappy with with front office the decisions that they
were making. Mark Murphy makes a very critical mistake in
my opinion. He comes out and he starts saying things
that are personally directed towards Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers had
no response, had nothing to say about it, but he
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did have this to say when he had his presser.
I think we can all understand. You know, Green Bay
isn't you know, a huge vacation destination. People are coming
here to play with me, to play with our team
and knowing that they could win a championship here. And
the fact that I haven't been using those discussions was
when I wanted to change moving forward, and I felt like,
based on my years, the way I can still play
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that that should be a natural part of the conversation.
As that progressed from that point, nothing really changed on
that front. That's Ether And if you don't, if you
don't understand what ether is, let me explain to you
what ether is. Ether was a song by Nas Now.
Nas was in beef battle with jay Z. Jay Z
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had some things to say, Nas responded, Mark Murphy had
some things to say. Aaron Rodgers responded. When he responded,
he responded in such a sensible, digestible manner that if
you thought anything differently of Aaron Rodgers, you know, at
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the point of saying Aaron Rodgers is selfish. Aaron Rodgers
is is a touch dude. He's hard to get along with.
Dotta dot. You changed it at that point in time,
you changed it, and and as far as I'm concerned,
as far as I'm concerned, when you think about what
what Aaron Rodgers presented, he basically did something that I
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have never really seen anyone of his stature do outside
of basketball, Like I've seen basketball players do it, but
I've never Okay, this is what he did. He exposed
the front office for being incompetent and undervaluing the basically
what he can bring to the table to help the
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Green Bay Packers get to the next level. So, in
other words, what he's saying is is Aaron Rodgers is
good enough to get to the NFC Championship round. But
Aaron Rodgers if not included in conversations that would get
a Plexico bursts T J. Hutchman's outa A LaVar Arrington
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in free agency to come to Green Bay. You ain't
gonna get him, and we're not going to get to
the point of where we need to get to winning
a championship when you have people like Tom Brady who
can actually be used in the same in the same
way as I'm I've been asking this and you watch
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does lose? Think about this. You watched us lose to
a team where a person that I've been saying this
since years before, Tom Brady goes into this situation in
Tampa Bay. I've been presenting this year's prior and now
we see it and watch it play out, and we
are a victim to it. He did what I'm saying.
He presented that to the world. He basically shut the
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front office of the Packers down with what he said
in his within his uh, his his presser. So what
do you think that he was implying when he said
that Green Bay is not in an actual vacation and destination.
They come to Green Bay to pay for me. I'm glad,
I'm glad you asked that question. Eight seven seven nine
nine six six three six nine. We want to hear
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from you. Who do you think won the war? Won
the battle? So far? The war is still going on, obviously,
because there's a season to be played. T J is here,
he's in the building. We're gonna take a break. I
want hey, just just make sure you you keep in
mind what you just asked me plexico, because we're gonna
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t J. Hushman's out of Plexico bird stretched Armstrong. Alright.
The phone lines filled up super quick. I'm seeing some
of the comments. It's kind of funny. It looks like
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a mixed bag. Uh. Welcome into the show, t J.
What's going on with your player? You good man? Good
to go, baby, and good to be here. Great to
be here. Okay, okay, plex that's nice of you to
join us today. Baby. He had to get out of
that navvy and California trap man, I have left so
early this California traffic is it's stupid, it's crazy. Hey, plex,
(17:45):
what what was your question when we was going into
the break? You remember, Yeah? So what do you think
that Aaron Rodgers wasn't playing when he said green Bay
isn't an actuable, vague case and destined. Yes, yes, come
to green Bay to play with me. So so, in
other words, what he was basically saying and putting the
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whole world on notice and putting the stockholders and the
fans of green Bay on notice for was nobody is
coming to green Bay just to come to green Bay.
There there are there are two reasons. They're really three
reasons why you would go to green Bay to play.
Three reasons all right. One, you get the bag they
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offer you the bag you're going you can you can
live with all the other stuff if your compensation is right. Two.
Two it's it's somebody that's there that you believe supersedes
the market that you're going into. They superseded like so
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you so an example, So you believe that Charles Woodson
left Oakland to go play with Brett Father and green
Bay because he believed that he would win the world chat, Yes,
and it happened and it happened. Yes, Reggie White, he
did it with with with Green Bay as well. Uh
so that's two and then three is what you just said,
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because you believe and in that person that that or
or you could say the person, or you could say
the culture right like you could say the culture of
this team. I want to be a part of it,
and I'm gonna go here for three, which is I
want to go in there for one reason. Okay, what
is it? Okay, Well there you and that's and there's
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your answer to your quest. No, no disrespect to green Bay.
But he made he put it on the I played
in green Bay one time we went out at the hotel.
We walked down the street to go to a restaurant
right back. No no, no, no, I swear to God.
And it looked like we were in a movie scene,
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like it was a movie set. It was nothing there,
It was nothing there. We were only people in the restaurant.
They're going to Green Bay to play with Aaron Rodgers
because they think they can win. Okay, like you gotta
if Aaron Rodgers is not in green Bay, you have
to overpay guys to come play with the green Bay Packers.
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That's just what it is that's not and they're not
gonna do that either. If you're not gonna overplay pay players,
which is the number one reason why you would go
to that market. Aaron Rodgers is basically saying, why would
y'all not give me a voice? I I have connects,
my me and my agent. We got connects. We got
good relationships with a lot of these high profile guys
out here. Why would you not bring me into the
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scenario where I can help as a recruiter to get
guys to come to a place that. Oh, by the way,
the only reason why they would come here is because
of me. Yes, the only reason that Matt la Flour
went to Green Bay was because of Aaron Rodgers to
come on and that half this person in to stay
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the world because Matt Lafleur is like, please please get this,
please fix this please. He's the only reason I took
the job. All right, now taking a step further. But
now now now fellas taking a step further. Now he
puts you on blast for saying that y'all not giving
me the opportunity to do this. He puts you on
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blast for saying that, right, and then he then he
doubled downs on y'all right, he doubled downs on it
by basically saying, I have the resume, I have the experience,
the experience basically saying, why would you not have conversations
with me about certain guys that you're planning on bringing
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in here? Now I'll be bringing in I get. Retaining
that's debatable. Retaining that's debatable because you look at what
Randall cop got when he left the Packers, and we
as players, we have personal attachments, we have friendships. So
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certain times you just want that player to stay just
because you guys have played together for so long. And
if the player is looking for X amount of dollars
and he's not worth that anymore, which I'm not sure
when Randall Cobb got that contract that he was worth at,
then are they right? I won't. I won't Randall call
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back whatever it takes. I don't know if that's the
best case scenario when you're retaining players, because we as players,
we have favorites, we have personal attachments, and that can
get in the way of business at times. Right, That's
what I said earlier. So so you released Randall Cap
was a performance base. He was just hurt a lot,
and he wasn't worth the money he was making. So
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so do you think that Aaron Rodgers may also be
saying that, You know, Green Bay is not a vacation destination.
I could be playing in l A or my at
Me or or maybe even San Francisco. Do you think
do you think he may be saying that? Also, here's
what I'll say as it applies to this and this
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particular instance, you do not have an owner. You do
not have You do not have a head coach that
out of the two that can stand up to the
situation that's being presented by Aaron Rodgers where he is,
which makes it ultimately the most unique approach to what's
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taking place right now, because if this was an owner,
like think about this right and I'm gonna tell you
how I know Aaron Rodgers is winning the battle right
now and surging to win the war. At first, I
thought winning the war was getting rid of Mark Murphy,
or getting rid of anyone. Gumpicus, how you say his name?
Say his name? Say his name, Sam, give me his name,
the GM of the of the packers, Gouda kunts I
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can't never say his name, right, all right? I thought
the original idea was to get rid of them, and
I'm now realizing that it's not. It's not solely to
get rid of them, it's to get them to conform.
He is forcing them into a corner to have to
reconcile with Aaron Rodgers. If if this was anybody else,
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if this was anybody else anywhere else, Tom Brady probably
tried to do this, and to a certain degree in
New England, what ends up happening. He left, He had
to go right, But they haven't. They have an owner
and they have a head coach that has proven himself
fam Bingo. That's what you gotta take into consideration here.
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There is no one to stand up to what Aaron
Rodgers coo that's taking place in Green Bay. He basically
just said I have more of a resume and experience
than y'all do, and and he's not. You can't. That's
the fact. You can't. You can't argue the sensibility of
what he said. That's why this is ether, That's why
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this is Hey, there's something much more that we don't
know that is going on behind the scenes between the
management and ran Rodders that we don't know because there's
no way that Aaron Rodgers comes back and he says
that he wants to have a bigger role with the team.
You bring back one person, random call, and and everything
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goes away because it ain't there's no way that you
just bring that Randal car and all of a sudden
everything is, hey, okay, but you know what that's going
on that we don't know. But here's what here's what
you can know that is going on. He got them
to move on restructure in his contract. How many people
you know has a problem with the organization They say,
I want to restructure my contract and organization does it?
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How many people y'all know? How often does that happen?
But he's still getting his money? Two? But when they
got him to avoid this contract? How many how many
guys we now, we we owe we we know a
gang of cats that's been played in the NFL, friends
all over the play. How many of your boys, I
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wanna take a year off your contract. We're gonna avoid
your contract. How many people you know the team does
that for? I can't think of one. A man, look
at it. Look at Xavian Howard in Miami. Just look
at this situation. He's tremendously underpaid. Man Miami is like,
deal with it. Deal with it. You ain't got no choice.
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Deal with it. Look at that situation. Look at that situation. Now,
think about this. Think about this. How many players you
know that would come out the way that Aaron Rodgers
did against the Packers front office and still is starting
on schedule, knows that he can get away with this.
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He had the same conversation with Tom alright earlier. Well,
then you know who's winning this. He understands who if
this is a twelve round scheduled for twelve round, it
ain't gonna make twelve rouse everyone. Aaron Rodgers conceit man,
Aaron Rodgers one, and they know he won. And the
people that are saying he's not there biased. It's very simple,
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David gascon Let's get some trending and then we're gonna
come to the calls after that. What you got, Dave,
I guess we leave things on from the National Football League.
Justin Houston is now at Baltimore Raven one year deal
in place for him were four million bucks. Cols don't
know the status of Carson went, so today they picked
up quarterback Brenton Hunley, Major League Baseball bad blow for
the Tampa Bay Rays starting picture Tally glass Noo is
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expected to have Tommy John surgery next week. Will be
done for at least next season, but could be out
until three. Fer Nano Tatis Jr. Dislocated shoulder last night.
Teams still waiting the status for him. It did pop
back in, but it's the third time this season it
has happened to him and have surgery during the off season.
Marlin's first round pick Cleo Watson's agree to a deal
with the teams taking his physical should be announced tomorrow.
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he's like a softball. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, bring your
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What you got? Right? Who? Who we got? First? Let's
kick it off with Jerome and Charleston. What's up rom
me wrong? Hey? Fifty six? I just want to let
you know the three and you, guys, you could have
never an amazing ye has gotten away with this to
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your playing career. You will be off the door quick quick, hey.
And by the way, and so boom about year for
him and if he doesn't bring home the trophy and
you know what's trophy I'm talking about plextical, don't bring
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home the trophy for he's gone after this year because
they're not gonna put up with another stuff getting up
and calling up the front office in the power You're
not gonna put up with that. Here's the only problem
to what you're saying. He's setting the stage for the
front office to have to take the just like it's
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I have come close to getting to the super Bowl Championship.
I have. I have been in it. We lost. We
have made it to the the finals twice two years
back to back. And I got m VP of the league.
He's basically saying, I am the best player in the league,
and you guys are not giving me the opportunity to
help bring guys here that can get us over the hump.
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So he doesn't have to win the Super Bowl to
be able to prove put it to you this way.
If he loses the way he's been losing, it only
furthers the point of what he's making. This actually is
a stacked deck against the Green Bay Packers. If he wins,
it's trust me more. If he loses, it's because you
(30:39):
didn't trust me more, and I'm up out of here.
I mean, that's just kind. So if they do lose,
which they're not going to win the World Championship, I'm
just gonna call that right now because they if they
happen to lose, say they're losing the first fund the playoffs.
Let let's say that if the Packers do, you go
back next season. Almost in fifty me and I was guaranteed.
(31:02):
If you're losing the first round, you're piste off that
you conceded to him. You let him do this and
do that, and you're going to move on. But but
hold on, you're piste off that you let him do
this and do that, but they really only Randall cop
is the direct Even even GM said it like he
separated himself. I would not bring Randall called back. Randall
(31:23):
cob is not a decision I would make. That's one guy,
and nobody sitting in this room on this show, Nobody
who has great football sense would sit there and think that, Okay,
Aaron Rodgers getting them to concede, the bringing Randall call
back is going to be the difference in them winning
the World championship. You're sitting there saying to yourself, why
(31:44):
not give him an opportunity to help bring Michael Thomas
and if he's the scruntling doesn't want to be in
New Orleans anymore, or bring a Bosa brother to to there,
or or Julius Peppers that came before. If you're if
you're out there looking at this with a critical I,
you're sitting there saying, why would you not let him
(32:05):
come to the table and say, let me help recruit
guys that are gonna get us to that point. You're
not gonna sit there and be like you let us
do all you made us do your contract this way,
and we brought in Randall Cobb and we didn't win
a championship. No, you didn't do enough this offseason to
make your team any different than what it is right now.
And for what is worth, all of this goes away.
(32:26):
If Jordan's love, which we have not mentioned one time
until just this moment, everything goes away. There's no leverage
of Jordan's love. Is the player that Green Bay thinks
he is when they drafted him. Jordan's love. This team
is going to fall off a cliff. The minute Jordan's
Love starts this team, it's gonna fall off. Save that,
(32:51):
Save that, all right? Tell me tell me there was
no off season last year. Okay, the kid leaves schools early.
He leaves school early, coming from a small school in
Utah State. God, he's never played a snap in the
NFL this preseason, this preseason, you, I'm almost certain he's
(33:18):
gonna take the snaps. And if he has shown him
any type of progression, this will be Aaron Rodgers last.
And it's gonna pour down now to say they're gonna
fall off a cliff. Yes, and let me tell you what.
Let me tell you. Obviously he didn't show him anything
in practice. Everything Everything you said is correct, but don't
(33:39):
nobody care everything you said? Everything you said correct, Hey,
if he plays well in the preseason, everybody cares. If
he plays well in the preseason, it changes the narrative
of the conversation. But then now you gotta make the decision.
Are you gonna draw a hard line in the sand
and start during Yes, there is line. The hard line
(34:05):
in the sand for this year is you have to
start playing Jordan's Love before Aaron Rodgers. That's the Jordan
Love will never play this year. He can throw for
seven hundred yards in every preseason game and eight touchdowns
and he's not truth so said you free Was anybody
(34:30):
listening to me when the show first started? I said
that Aaron Rodgers walks in the door, and Jordan's Love
became non existent. Aaron Roderson is basically a two year deal,
and Jordan's Love has two years left on his contract.
So right now he knows that as long as Aaron
(34:50):
rod is in is in Green Bay, he's not He's
not He's not gonna play. So therefore we have no film,
we have no tape on Jordan's Love, and he has
no I can play the possession he has no Why
do you think that Davonte Adams in the contract talks
with the Green Bay Packers because you know a rod
is going after this year? Or maybe absolutely he hasn't
(35:18):
played a down. You can go off of what he
won't play. I know he's not gonna place, is what
I'm saying. Guys, and y'all understand this. When you come
in as a rookie, you have no off season, you
get the training camp. You really not getting any reps
because we got to get the guys ready. You don't
(35:40):
know how good or bad Jordan's love is because he
didn't get reps. You got to get the starters ready,
and you don't go ahead, go go get him stretched.
The Green Bay Packers did not dress Jordan Love for
one football. He was a streak Mexico. What reps are?
(36:04):
I don't care. I do not care. You don't have
I don't care. If you don't have an off season,
you got drafted in the first to get you. He
is playing in practice every day. If he's winning, he's
running the season. If he's that good, you can't keep
him off the field. If he's that good man, ya can't.
You guys would get fired the first year you're talking.
(36:27):
You're talking about a quarterback that has no off season,
no training camp, no preseason games. Who's that on? Who's
fault is that, who's followed that? What? Nobody? Ever? What
year is he going into in his contract right now?
His second year? Okay, so he won't play a second year.
What year do they start to renegotiate extensions REDUS first
(36:49):
round picks, third year, fourth year, fourth year? They start
in the third year to the fourth year, right, going
into No after your fourth year, after the fifth coming
out of your third year year, because you generally get
you generally get your deal done in the fourth year
of your contract. Okay, so those conversations generally start going
(37:11):
into your fourth year, not at the end of your
fourth year. So you don't think if he played in
his third year that it would start. No, No, And
here's the here's the reason why he's I mean, it
would have to start, for one, if he how how
you played. But you're building up your your resume, you're
building up the negotiation and leverage points that you have
(37:32):
as a player, and at least year two, at least
year two, right, tej I mean think about it year
too and for most it's year one for Baker, for
Trevor Lawrence, for for for the kid in Cincinnati. Borrow
what year is Baker Mayfield going into? What years Josh
(37:52):
Allen going into their fourth? Have they signed new contracts
there under negotiations under their there there negotiation saying that
I'm not saying that no when I'm when I'm exactly
how many years, how many years, how many years have
proven and he hasn't signed a contract and he's proved
(38:13):
how many years have they played? Those those contracts are
being negotiated for extensions based off of the credibility of
what they've already done in the league, not college. The
further you get away from September rolls around, one September
rose around. They're gonna and we're all gonna know what
Jordan's love is. He's gonna play these preseason games. It's
(38:35):
gonna be simple. On September rolls around, we are going
to see, you got an off season. You got all
the reps. Aaron Rodgers weren't there, You got all the reps.
You're gonna get all the reps in the preseason. We
are going to see. All I know is they had
an off season this year. Where they practiced, they were
on they were in the facility, they were having organized practices,
(38:57):
and Davante Adams does not want to to He did
not want us to negotiate and engage the Packers on
coming back until Aaron Rodgers said he was coming back.
That says to me. That says to me that they
know something about Jordan's love. No, you could possibly know
you you're right, that's you. If that's you and you're not.
(39:19):
And his coaches and stuff, they look at this man
every day. They Adams knows what he and that's why
just turned out. No one that's he would be excited
to stay in Green. No, no, young man, I need
somebody that got skin in the games. If I'm DeVante Adams,
(39:40):
we could say this, we could say this, we could
say this. We would hear his name a whole lot
more if the dude could play some football. That's what
I do know. We ain't hurt Jordan loves They come up,
not one time in the rebuttal well, you know what
you said what you had to say, jay Z, you
know you said all the stuff you had to say.
You throw it on out there and Mark Murph or
(40:00):
the GM of the Green Bay Packers never said we'll
just go with what we have because he's gonna be
good enough to do it. Bright Star, great future. We're
gonna roll with him. Ether Eather, Aaron Rodgers eat Green Band,
y'all will be fine to know. Listen, We're gonna take
y'all call. Man. I've been up since seven thirty seven
(40:21):
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A huge brain in his head, right thing huge baby. Hey,
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to our guy, Manuel and Guardina. Man, well what you
got Broski? Oh Bella's First off, Man, great show. I
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Appreciate it. You mean the three former and the sellers
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(43:56):
being said, I'm wrong. I couldn't not disagree with you more.
First off, man, you are saying and what Aaron Rodgers
is not realizing he ain't Tom Brady. Last time I checked,
he's a better quarterback man. And I'm and I'm not
(44:19):
trust me. I am not a Tom Brady fan. I'm
a Raider fan. But hey man, he you ain't Tom Brady.
Bro So why do you think that you've got that gravitas?
And first off, if this is the case that you've
been coming at the front office for so long and
saying that, why haven't you taken a pay cut like
Tom Brady has for years? I'll bring this guy in
(44:40):
or this and that, or even said like, why hasn't
anybody ever said, yeah, Aaron Rodgers called me, and no,
I didn't decide to go there. Man, we have never
heard of this recruitment stuff. So in my opinion has
always been he's being way too selfish man, in my opinion,
But I'll listen to what you guys say, and man,
I love you guys the show. I love you with
(45:01):
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Andrea Massachusetts? What's going on? LaVar? Listen, you had a
hundred percent right. There's a war going on our side. No, man,
you can't run, but forever, Yeah, we done. You're walking
(45:25):
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(45:46):
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(03:21):
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(04:04):
let's jump into it, bro like Aaron Rodgers and and
this is how it's written on our our show Rundown,
because this is exactly what it is. There's a war
going on outside. No one is safe from You can run,
but you can't hide forever. Aaron Rodgers versus the Packers.
Um so far in the battles that are waging and
(04:25):
taking place, who's winning so far? Plex And and just
let me know why you think that that that particular
side of it isn't is in good shape with winning
a couple of couple of battles within the war. To
be honest with you, I really don't know who's winning
the battle. I really don't. Because last week we we
(04:46):
talked about the You know, Aaron Rodgers posting to Michael
Jordan and Scottie Pippen, the last dance had had the
last dance already happened, which, by the way, you said,
the last dance at Rogers taking me look bad. That's
what I'm getting ready to get to. Let me explain
what I gotta say. All right, So this is what
I don't understand. Um, there's so many moving pieces to
(05:10):
this whole. Aaron Rodgers saga that I don't understand. I
don't understand some of the situation. I don't understand some
of the decisions that your front office and the general
managers are making. And Rodgers said he wasn't happy with
the Green Bay Packers. He wasn't going to return this season,
and you bring back round the car. So I just
(05:30):
don't understand what's going on. My take is this, So
Aaron Rodgers said he doesn't want to come back. It's
that it's that old saying. Money talks and the rest
of that stuff can keep on walking. So they avoid
this too. They avoid this three contracts, so he's basically
on a two year deal. He takes a pay cut
(05:52):
of nine million dollars. He bridge brings his salary down
the twenty seven million, and they bring round the car back.
So why did you get random Why why did you
get Randall carb in in the first place? Was it
performance base or did you release him or cut him
to save money? So now you bring him back, he's
basically making the same salary that he was making the
green Baby before he left. So why did you get
(06:14):
rid of him in the first place? Okay, you draft
the Mary Rogers. You say he's gonna he's gonna fill
the shoes of what Randall Cobb was doing while he's
in Green Bay. Now you're being rounding the car back.
So with with all that being said, in two thousand
twenty two, and Rodgers is gonna make forty forty six
million dollars. So now we move on to Jordan's love.
(06:37):
How do you think he feels the whole offseason they've
been talking about Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers is not going
to be the understenter for the Green Bay Packers this season.
Now and Rogers walks in the building, and now Jordan's
love he doesn't exist anymore. So he sounds a four
year deal coming in as a rookie, So he basically
has two years left on his deal, which he knows
(07:01):
in the next two seasons this twenty two seasons that
he's not going to play. So what does that leave him?
How does how does how do you feel if you're
Jordan's love? They bring back Aaron Rodgers and signed him
basically a two year deal, and you know that you
have basically two years left on your deal and you're
not going to get a chance to play football. Are
(07:22):
you gonna resign with the Green Bay Packers two years
from now? Nobody has taped on Jordan's Love. Nobody has
is going to get a chance to see what he's
able to do, So for him mentally, like where is
he yet? Mentally? So we don't know what's gonna happen
with that whole situation. But you know, and writer said
(07:44):
he wants to take on a bigger role with the
Green Bay Packers. I don't understand what that means. But
he got his good friend Rendal Car back. I guess
that makes him happy. So then you have Rental car,
you have a Marit Rodgers, you have Vivante Adams, you
have a great group of wide receivers. But it doesn't
matter what the Green Bay Packers doing the regular season.
(08:06):
Everybody knows that they are clearly the best team in
the NFC North. They're gonna walk through the NFC North.
What everybody wants to know and what they want to see.
What are the Packers going to do in the playoffs
if they just happened to run into the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers once again? What is going to happen? M all right?
(08:29):
And that's that I think that that's an honest, sensible
take as well. I mean it does get a tap
bit confusing on on all of the details. I tend
to look at it and and listen. I've had the
opportunity to speak at it at nauseum this week, being
on FS one and and even being here in the
Mornings with with Jonas and Brady. Uh. You know what,
(08:52):
plex I I really believe and I called it ether right.
It was an ethering of of the Ackers front office.
Aaron Rodgers has not been quoted at any point in
time directly until he came in and he reported in
so now all the way up until you seeing him
(09:14):
walk into the facility, you did not know if what
Aaron Rodgers really was gonna do. It's all gonna be speculation.
No matter if somebody said he was reporting or if
they said he wasn't, it was gonna be speculation masterfully
done because if you can get people feeling that way
for that long, you've done a good job. Because that
ultimately was setting the stage for what he did next.
(09:39):
What he did next, in my opinion, Uh, it tends
to it blows me away because the way he presented himself. Uh,
in his press conference, do we have a press conference
sound by the way that that I was requesting for
the green bat, Yeah, the vacation, Well, well, him talking
about um just what he wanted his involvement to be
(10:03):
in his his understanding of of what's going on and
being a recruiter. Do we have that? Pull that up
for me? Because when he did this stretch and my
and my humble estimation, what he did was he set
the stage by not not clowning anyone directly, he let
the media speculate on if he was clowning them, and
(10:26):
and and you know, there were reports coming out he
was unhappy with with front office the decisions that they
were making. Mark Murphy makes a very critical mistake in
my opinion. He comes out and he starts saying things
that are personally directed towards Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers had
no response, had nothing to say about it, but he
(10:48):
did have this to say when he had his presser.
I think we can all understand. You know, Green Bay
isn't you know, a huge vacation destination. People are coming
here to play with me, to play with our team
and knowing that they could win a championship here. And
the fact that I haven't been using those discussions was
when I wanted to change moving forward, and I felt like,
based on my years, the way I can still play
(11:10):
that that should be a natural part of the conversation.
As that progressed from that point, nothing really changed on
that front. That's Ether And if you don't, if you
don't understand what ether is, let me explain to you
what ether is. Ether was a song by Nas Now.
Nas was in beef battle with jay Z. Jay Z
(11:35):
had some things to say, Nas responded, Mark Murphy had
some things to say. Aaron Rodgers responded. When he responded,
he responded in such a sensible, digestible manner that if
you thought anything differently of Aaron Rodgers, you know, at
(11:57):
the point of saying Aaron Rodgers is selfish. Aaron Rodgers
is is a touch dude. He's hard to get along with.
Dotta dot. You changed it at that point in time,
you changed it, and and as far as I'm concerned,
as far as I'm concerned, when you think about what
what Aaron Rodgers presented, he basically did something that I
(12:18):
have never really seen anyone of his stature do outside
of basketball, Like I've seen basketball players do it, but
I've never Okay, this is what he did. He exposed
the front office for being incompetent and undervaluing the basically
what he can bring to the table to help the
(12:41):
Green Bay Packers get to the next level. So, in
other words, what he's saying is is Aaron Rodgers is
good enough to get to the NFC Championship round. But
Aaron Rodgers if not included in conversations that would get
a Plexico bursts T J. Hutchman's outa A LaVar Arrington
(13:03):
in free agency to come to Green Bay. You ain't
gonna get him, and we're not going to get to
the point of where we need to get to winning
a championship when you have people like Tom Brady who
can actually be used in the same in the same
way as I'm I've been asking this and you watch
(13:23):
does lose? Think about this. You watched us lose to
a team where a person that I've been saying this
since years before, Tom Brady goes into this situation in
Tampa Bay. I've been presenting this year's prior and now
we see it and watch it play out, and we
are a victim to it. He did what I'm saying.
He presented that to the world. He basically shut the
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front office of the Packers down with what he said
in his within his uh, his his presser. So what
do you think that he was implying when he said
that Green Bay is not in an actual vacation and destination.
They come to Green Bay to pay for me. I'm glad,
I'm glad you asked that question. Eight seven seven nine
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from you. Who do you think won the war? Won
the battle? So far? The war is still going on, obviously,
because there's a season to be played. T J is here,
he's in the building. We're gonna take a break. I
want hey, just just make sure you you keep in
mind what you just asked me plexico, because we're gonna
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The phone lines filled up super quick. I'm seeing some
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a mixed bag. Uh. Welcome into the show, t J.
What's going on with your player? You good man? Good
to go, baby, and good to be here. Great to
be here. Okay, okay, plex that's nice of you to
join us today. Baby. He had to get out of
that navvy and California trap man, I have left so
early this California traffic is it's stupid, it's crazy. Hey, plex,
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what what was your question when we was going into
the break? You remember, Yeah? So what do you think
that Aaron Rodgers wasn't playing when he said green Bay
isn't an actuable, vague case and destined. Yes, yes, come
to green Bay to play with me. So so, in
other words, what he was basically saying and putting the
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whole world on notice and putting the stockholders and the
fans of green Bay on notice for was nobody is
coming to green Bay just to come to green Bay.
There there are there are two reasons. They're really three
reasons why you would go to green Bay to play.
Three reasons all right. One, you get the bag they
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offer you the bag you're going you can you can
live with all the other stuff if your compensation is right. Two.
Two it's it's somebody that's there that you believe supersedes
the market that you're going into. They superseded like so
(18:50):
you so an example, So you believe that Charles Woodson
left Oakland to go play with Brett Father and green
Bay because he believed that he would win the world chat, Yes,
and it happened and it happened. Yes, Reggie White, he
did it with with with Green Bay as well. Uh
so that's two and then three is what you just said,
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because you believe and in that person that that or
or you could say the person, or you could say
the culture right like you could say the culture of
this team. I want to be a part of it,
and I'm gonna go here for three, which is I
want to go in there for one reason. Okay, what
is it? Okay, Well there you and that's and there's
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your answer to your quest. No, no disrespect to green Bay.
But he made he put it on the I played
in green Bay one time we went out at the hotel.
We walked down the street to go to a restaurant
right back. No no, no, no, I swear to God.
And it looked like we were in a movie scene,
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like it was a movie set. It was nothing there,
It was nothing there. We were only people in the restaurant.
They're going to Green Bay to play with Aaron Rodgers
because they think they can win. Okay, like you gotta
if Aaron Rodgers is not in green Bay, you have
to overpay guys to come play with the green Bay Packers.
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That's just what it is that's not and they're not
gonna do that either. If you're not gonna overplay pay players,
which is the number one reason why you would go
to that market. Aaron Rodgers is basically saying, why would
y'all not give me a voice? I I have connects,
my me and my agent. We got connects. We got
good relationships with a lot of these high profile guys
out here. Why would you not bring me into the
(20:38):
scenario where I can help as a recruiter to get
guys to come to a place that. Oh, by the way,
the only reason why they would come here is because
of me. Yes, the only reason that Matt la Flour
went to Green Bay was because of Aaron Rodgers to
come on and that half this person in to stay
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the world because Matt Lafleur is like, please please get this,
please fix this please. He's the only reason I took
the job. All right, now taking a step further. But
now now now fellas taking a step further. Now he
puts you on blast for saying that y'all not giving
me the opportunity to do this. He puts you on
(21:20):
blast for saying that, right, and then he then he
doubled downs on y'all right, he doubled downs on it
by basically saying, I have the resume, I have the experience,
the experience basically saying, why would you not have conversations
with me about certain guys that you're planning on bringing
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in here? Now I'll be bringing in I get. Retaining
that's debatable. Retaining that's debatable because you look at what
Randall cop got when he left the Packers, and we
as players, we have personal attachments, we have friendships. So
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certain times you just want that player to stay just
because you guys have played together for so long. And
if the player is looking for X amount of dollars
and he's not worth that anymore, which I'm not sure
when Randall Cobb got that contract that he was worth at,
then are they right? I won't. I won't Randall call
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back whatever it takes. I don't know if that's the
best case scenario when you're retaining players, because we as players,
we have favorites, we have personal attachments, and that can
get in the way of business at times. Right, That's
what I said earlier. So so you released Randall Cap
was a performance base. He was just hurt a lot,
and he wasn't worth the money he was making. So
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so do you think that Aaron Rodgers may also be
saying that, You know, Green Bay is not a vacation destination.
I could be playing in l A or my at
Me or or maybe even San Francisco. Do you think
do you think he may be saying that? Also, here's
what I'll say as it applies to this and this
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particular instance, you do not have an owner. You do
not have You do not have a head coach that
out of the two that can stand up to the
situation that's being presented by Aaron Rodgers where he is,
which makes it ultimately the most unique approach to what's
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taking place right now, because if this was an owner,
like think about this right and I'm gonna tell you
how I know Aaron Rodgers is winning the battle right
now and surging to win the war. At first, I
thought winning the war was getting rid of Mark Murphy,
or getting rid of anyone. Gumpicus, how you say his name?
Say his name? Say his name, Sam, give me his name,
the GM of the of the packers, Gouda kunts I
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can't never say his name, right, all right? I thought
the original idea was to get rid of them, and
I'm now realizing that it's not. It's not solely to
get rid of them, it's to get them to conform.
He is forcing them into a corner to have to
reconcile with Aaron Rodgers. If if this was anybody else,
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if this was anybody else anywhere else, Tom Brady probably
tried to do this, and to a certain degree in
New England, what ends up happening. He left, He had
to go right, But they haven't. They have an owner
and they have a head coach that has proven himself
fam Bingo. That's what you gotta take into consideration here.
(24:45):
There is no one to stand up to what Aaron
Rodgers coo that's taking place in Green Bay. He basically
just said I have more of a resume and experience
than y'all do, and and he's not. You can't. That's
the fact. You can't. You can't argue the sensibility of
what he said. That's why this is ether, That's why
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this is Hey, there's something much more that we don't
know that is going on behind the scenes between the
management and ran Rodders that we don't know because there's
no way that Aaron Rodgers comes back and he says
that he wants to have a bigger role with the team.
You bring back one person, random call, and and everything
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goes away because it ain't there's no way that you
just bring that Randal car and all of a sudden
everything is, hey, okay, but you know what that's going
on that we don't know. But here's what here's what
you can know that is going on. He got them
to move on restructure in his contract. How many people
you know has a problem with the organization They say,
I want to restructure my contract and organization does it?
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How many people y'all know? How often does that happen?
But he's still getting his money? Two? But when they
got him to avoid this contract? How many how many
guys we now, we we owe we we know a
gang of cats that's been played in the NFL, friends
all over the play. How many of your boys, I
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wanna take a year off your contract. We're gonna avoid
your contract. How many people you know the team does
that for? I can't think of one. A man, look
at it. Look at Xavian Howard in Miami. Just look
at this situation. He's tremendously underpaid. Man Miami is like,
deal with it. Deal with it. You ain't got no choice.
(26:37):
Deal with it. Look at that situation. Look at that situation. Now,
think about this. Think about this. How many players you
know that would come out the way that Aaron Rodgers
did against the Packers front office and still is starting
on schedule, knows that he can get away with this.
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He had the same conversation with Tom alright earlier. Well,
then you know who's winning this. He understands who if
this is a twelve round scheduled for twelve round, it
ain't gonna make twelve rouse everyone. Aaron Rodgers conceit man,
Aaron Rodgers one, and they know he won. And the
people that are saying he's not there biased. It's very simple,
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David gascon Let's get some trending and then we're gonna
come to the calls after that. What you got, Dave,
I guess we leave things on from the National Football League.
Justin Houston is now at Baltimore Raven one year deal
in place for him were four million bucks. Cols don't
know the status of Carson went, so today they picked
up quarterback Brenton Hunley, Major League Baseball bad blow for
the Tampa Bay Rays starting picture Tally glass Noo is
(27:41):
expected to have Tommy John surgery next week. Will be
done for at least next season, but could be out
until three. Fer Nano Tatis Jr. Dislocated shoulder last night.
Teams still waiting the status for him. It did pop
back in, but it's the third time this season it
has happened to him and have surgery during the off season.
Marlin's first round pick Cleo Watson's agree to a deal
with the teams taking his physical should be announced tomorrow.
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Then Team USA, Who's long the cord and Finals on Tuesday.
Jason Tatum at seven Durant had twenty three. They hammered
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let's go out to these call lines. I cannot see
the names based upon the way this screen is so
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and then you call, Hey, the callers that are in
front of a TV at home, turn on the espn U. Man,
this PGF Softball Championship. Man, this thank is a good game.
Just just make sure you keep listening to us while
you're watching this softball. You know, you know, uh t
J is a big softball dude, like in his second career,
(28:46):
he's like a softball. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, bring your
kids to me. I got I got him, all right?
What you got? Right? Who? Who we got? First? Let's
kick it off with Jerome and Charleston. What's up rom
me wrong? Hey? Fifty six? I just want to let
you know the three and you, guys, you could have
never an amazing ye has gotten away with this to
(29:08):
your playing career. You will be off the door quick quick, hey.
And by the way, and so boom about year for
him and if he doesn't bring home the trophy and
you know what's trophy I'm talking about plextical, don't bring
(29:31):
home the trophy for he's gone after this year because
they're not gonna put up with another stuff getting up
and calling up the front office in the power You're
not gonna put up with that. Here's the only problem
to what you're saying. He's setting the stage for the
front office to have to take the just like it's
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I have come close to getting to the super Bowl Championship.
I have. I have been in it. We lost. We
have made it to the the finals twice two years
back to back. And I got m VP of the league.
He's basically saying, I am the best player in the league,
and you guys are not giving me the opportunity to
help bring guys here that can get us over the hump.
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So he doesn't have to win the Super Bowl to
be able to prove put it to you this way.
If he loses the way he's been losing, it only
furthers the point of what he's making. This actually is
a stacked deck against the Green Bay Packers. If he wins,
it's trust me more. If he loses, it's because you
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didn't trust me more, and I'm up out of here.
I mean, that's just kind. So if they do lose,
which they're not going to win the World Championship, I'm
just gonna call that right now because they if they
happen to lose, say they're losing the first fund the playoffs.
Let let's say that if the Packers do, you go
back next season. Almost in fifty me and I was guaranteed.
(31:02):
If you're losing the first round, you're piste off that
you conceded to him. You let him do this and
do that, and you're going to move on. But but
hold on, you're piste off that you let him do
this and do that, but they really only Randall cop
is the direct Even even GM said it like he
separated himself. I would not bring Randall called back. Randall
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cob is not a decision I would make. That's one guy,
and nobody sitting in this room on this show, Nobody
who has great football sense would sit there and think that, Okay,
Aaron Rodgers getting them to concede, the bringing Randall call
back is going to be the difference in them winning
the World championship. You're sitting there saying to yourself, why
(31:44):
not give him an opportunity to help bring Michael Thomas
and if he's the scruntling doesn't want to be in
New Orleans anymore, or bring a Bosa brother to to there,
or or Julius Peppers that came before. If you're if
you're out there looking at this with a critical I,
you're sitting there saying, why would you not let him
(32:05):
come to the table and say, let me help recruit
guys that are gonna get us to that point. You're
not gonna sit there and be like you let us
do all you made us do your contract this way,
and we brought in Randall Cobb and we didn't win
a championship. No, you didn't do enough this offseason to
make your team any different than what it is right now.
And for what is worth, all of this goes away.
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If Jordan's love, which we have not mentioned one time
until just this moment, everything goes away. There's no leverage
of Jordan's love. Is the player that Green Bay thinks
he is when they drafted him. Jordan's love. This team
is going to fall off a cliff. The minute Jordan's
Love starts this team, it's gonna fall off. Save that,
(32:51):
Save that, all right? Tell me tell me there was
no off season last year. Okay, the kid leaves schools early.
He leaves school early, coming from a small school in
Utah State. God, he's never played a snap in the
NFL this preseason, this preseason, you, I'm almost certain he's
(33:18):
gonna take the snaps. And if he has shown him
any type of progression, this will be Aaron Rodgers last.
And it's gonna pour down now to say they're gonna
fall off a cliff. Yes, and let me tell you what.
Let me tell you. Obviously he didn't show him anything
in practice. Everything Everything you said is correct, but don't
(33:39):
nobody care everything you said? Everything you said correct, Hey,
if he plays well in the preseason, everybody cares. If
he plays well in the preseason, it changes the narrative
of the conversation. But then now you gotta make the decision.
Are you gonna draw a hard line in the sand
and start during Yes, there is line. The hard line
(34:05):
in the sand for this year is you have to
start playing Jordan's Love before Aaron Rodgers. That's the Jordan
Love will never play this year. He can throw for
seven hundred yards in every preseason game and eight touchdowns
and he's not truth so said you free Was anybody
(34:30):
listening to me when the show first started? I said
that Aaron Rodgers walks in the door, and Jordan's Love
became non existent. Aaron Roderson is basically a two year deal,
and Jordan's Love has two years left on his contract.
So right now he knows that as long as Aaron
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rod is in is in Green Bay, he's not He's
not He's not gonna play. So therefore we have no film,
we have no tape on Jordan's Love, and he has
no I can play the possession he has no Why
do you think that Davonte Adams in the contract talks
with the Green Bay Packers because you know a rod
is going after this year? Or maybe absolutely he hasn't
(35:18):
played a down. You can go off of what he
won't play. I know he's not gonna place, is what
I'm saying. Guys, and y'all understand this. When you come
in as a rookie, you have no off season, you
get the training camp. You really not getting any reps
because we got to get the guys ready. You don't
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know how good or bad Jordan's love is because he
didn't get reps. You got to get the starters ready,
and you don't go ahead, go go get him stretched.
The Green Bay Packers did not dress Jordan Love for
one football. He was a streak Mexico. What reps are?
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I don't care. I do not care. You don't have
I don't care. If you don't have an off season,
you got drafted in the first to get you. He
is playing in practice every day. If he's winning, he's
running the season. If he's that good, you can't keep
him off the field. If he's that good man, ya can't.
You guys would get fired the first year you're talking.
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You're talking about a quarterback that has no off season,
no training camp, no preseason games. Who's that on? Who's
fault is that, who's followed that? What? Nobody? Ever? What
year is he going into in his contract right now?
His second year? Okay, so he won't play a second year.
What year do they start to renegotiate extensions REDUS first
(36:49):
round picks, third year, fourth year, fourth year? They start
in the third year to the fourth year, right, going
into No after your fourth year, after the fifth coming
out of your third year year, because you generally get
you generally get your deal done in the fourth year
of your contract. Okay, so those conversations generally start going
(37:11):
into your fourth year, not at the end of your
fourth year. So you don't think if he played in
his third year that it would start. No, No, And
here's the here's the reason why he's I mean, it
would have to start, for one, if he how how
you played. But you're building up your your resume, you're
building up the negotiation and leverage points that you have
(37:32):
as a player, and at least year two, at least
year two, right, tej I mean think about it year
too and for most it's year one for Baker, for
Trevor Lawrence, for for for the kid in Cincinnati. Borrow
what year is Baker Mayfield going into? What years Josh
(37:52):
Allen going into their fourth? Have they signed new contracts
there under negotiations under their there there negotiation saying that
I'm not saying that no when I'm when I'm exactly
how many years, how many years, how many years have
proven and he hasn't signed a contract and he's proved
(38:13):
how many years have they played? Those those contracts are
being negotiated for extensions based off of the credibility of
what they've already done in the league, not college. The
further you get away from September rolls around, one September
rose around. They're gonna and we're all gonna know what
Jordan's love is. He's gonna play these preseason games. It's
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gonna be simple. On September rolls around, we are going
to see, you got an off season. You got all
the reps. Aaron Rodgers weren't there, You got all the reps.
You're gonna get all the reps in the preseason. We
are going to see. All I know is they had
an off season this year. Where they practiced, they were
on they were in the facility, they were having organized practices,
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and Davante Adams does not want to to He did
not want us to negotiate and engage the Packers on
coming back until Aaron Rodgers said he was coming back.
That says to me. That says to me that they
know something about Jordan's love. No, you could possibly know
you you're right, that's you. If that's you and you're not.
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And his coaches and stuff, they look at this man
every day. They Adams knows what he and that's why
just turned out. No one that's he would be excited
to stay in Green. No, no, young man, I need
somebody that got skin in the games. If I'm DeVante Adams,
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we could say this, we could say this, we could
say this. We would hear his name a whole lot
more if the dude could play some football. That's what
I do know. We ain't hurt Jordan loves They come up,
not one time in the rebuttal well, you know what
you said what you had to say, jay Z, you
know you said all the stuff you had to say.
You throw it on out there and Mark Murph or
(40:00):
the GM of the Green Bay Packers never said we'll
just go with what we have because he's gonna be
good enough to do it. Bright Star, great future. We're
gonna roll with him. Ether Eather, Aaron Rodgers eat Green Band,
y'all will be fine to know. Listen, We're gonna take
y'all call. Man. I've been up since seven thirty seven
(40:21):
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I'm messing with you know, I got y'all know, I
got this big on head. My brain is huge over here,
A huge brain in his head, right thing huge baby. Hey,
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to our guy, Manuel and Guardina. Man, well what you
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being said, I'm wrong. I couldn't not disagree with you more.
First off, man, you are saying and what Aaron Rodgers
is not realizing he ain't Tom Brady. Last time I checked,
he's a better quarterback man. And I'm and I'm not
(44:19):
trust me. I am not a Tom Brady fan. I'm
a Raider fan. But hey man, he you ain't Tom Brady.
Bro So why do you think that you've got that gravitas?
And first off, if this is the case that you've
been coming at the front office for so long and
saying that, why haven't you taken a pay cut like
Tom Brady has for years? I'll bring this guy in
(44:40):
or this and that, or even said like, why hasn't
anybody ever said, yeah, Aaron Rodgers called me, and no,
I didn't decide to go there. Man, we have never
heard of this recruitment stuff. So in my opinion has
always been he's being way too selfish man, in my opinion,
But I'll listen to what you guys say, and man,
I love you guys the show. I love you with
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the Jonas knocks and Brady, thank you. You guys are
awesome appreciated. Man, don call who we got. I would
want to respond, but we ain't got time, So come on,
who we got? Let's try to get one more? All right,
Andrea Massachusetts? What's going on? LaVar? Listen, you had a
hundred percent right. There's a war going on our side. No, man,
you can't run, but forever, Yeah, we done. You're walking
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with you're having Yeah, come on, that's Aaron Rodgers is
walking through the front offices right now with a bunch
of shook one. Okay, you don't want to look Aaron
Rodgers in the eyes, head Murphy. He can't look at
Rodgers because he unsnatched up all the power. Aaron Rodgers
got everything he wanted he's got one more year to
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organization that's going to be working with him. LaVar, you
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was a quiet storm, it was about some shook one
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collegere a big signing of big stars coming to t. J.
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