Andy Furman and Martin Weiss on Field of Dreams, NFL Preseason and More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports. Pretty stop the season. We'll
tell you why in just a minute. Here we go. Yes,
he's Martin Wise. I'm Andy Ferma. Wondered if it Joonas
Sknocks and Bucky Brooks, and it's my pleasure to introduce
for the very first time. Was I've never met him before.
It's like a blind date to one and only Martin Wise. Martin,
how are you? I guess you draw the short short

(00:22):
to be my partner today. But that's okay, It'll be fine, Andy, Andy,
thanks for having me. First of all, I've heard so
many great things about you heard you believe it, but no,
it's let's I hope this blind date goes better than
the last blind date that I had, because that one.
About that one. I went to a popular restaurant here
in l A. And I was set up by a
friend of mine, and I believe this girl that I

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was with she turned to the table across from me
and said to them, I wouldn't have ordered that food
and then conceded to have a conversation with the table
next to me for a like at least ten minutes
of the game time. As the Clippers were like choking
away game. I mean the Marvericks were choking way in
the first round of the playoffs to the Clippers, and
I just I was, I was bet on Luca. It

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was just all around bad. But I mean all around.
I mean I can imagine that. Imagine what's your name?
Maybe she's listening, what's her name? I'm not gonna put
her name out there many, but I'll tell you what.
That was the first and last of those dates, like,
let me know when you get home, and she said
at home. I said, cool, and that that's probably the
last message that we will ever, that's the last conversation
will ever have. Well, that won't happen with us, I

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promise you did. But I do want to know a
little bit about you. I want to get to know
you a little bit of everybody. Know what you're at,
what you're doing, how you gotten sports? What do you do?
Let me hear so? Uh? I pay my rent producing
on Disputed with Skip Baylis and Shannon sharp Band. I
also work for the Extra Points podcast Network with cousin
sal I host a podcast, Lemon Pepper Parlay Podcast with
Fox Sports Radio's own Rob Parker and my guy he's

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my guy. You know we're good buns. I tell you what.
He's supposed to meet me in Cincinnati abou two weeks
ago with his plane got all messed up. If you
know anything about Rob Parker, I have a feeling he
probably paid fifteen dollars for that plane ticket. Yeah, I'm sure,
but you know he probably want with the with the baggage.
But anyway, he used to cover the ridge in Cincinnati
for the Cincinnati Inquirer. We became pretty good friends. So
you've got good company with Rob Parker. Oh man. He's

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told me so many stories about about Marge shot and
how they had they ordered pizzas up from the press
box because she wouldn't feed us, and she wouldn't feed
us exactly right, that's the way she was. Oh man.
You know when John this is a terrible story when
John mc sherry passed away an opening day and she
was the owner of the team. He was behind the
plated collapsed and he died. You know, lord, they sent

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flowers and like this is a terrible thing to say,
but after the flowers were there for several days, she
took them back. She kept the flower. I mean, come,
I mean, look, I mean she she was always fairly
good to me, and I was doing talk radio in Cincinnati.
But she was an eccentric, to say the least. To
say the least, who was an eccentric, That's the way
she was. But you know, honestly got here your background
because athletically, did you play sports? I need to know

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this because I don't want to be too intimidated. Oh no, listen,
I got lift. My best days were in the tenth grade.
I knew early on when DJ Augustine uh played. I'll
played against him in high school and did Augustine dropped
forty points on us in a summer league game, but
it's only forty minutes long, and did a soft cast
on his right hand. I knew I was gonna be
going pro and something other than athletics, right, So I'm

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somewhat of an athlete here between the two of us
because I was an old city manager. From my basketball
team in high school. I was one of the best
Orange cutters in the city of New York. We played
basketball in Brooklyn. There was a hot bit for talent,
no doubt about that. Laftette High School, and I was
nominated to the Stickball Hall of Fame. So I got
some credit. I got a little credit. I do not much,
but a little bit. And by the way, did you

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know this one of my favorite sports is celebrating a
birthday today. Today, in the year nineteen fifty three was
the invention and birth of whiffle ball football three today.
I had no idea, but I'll tell you this. As
born and raised in South Louisiana, most people would be ashamed.
I can't swing a baseball. I can throw a base walk,

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I can throw pretty well, but I can't swing a
baseball back to save my life. It's it's one of
the most embarrassing things. I went over four and a
celebrity softball game soft on the term celebrity hard on
the softball, but I was serious. I was over four.
People were booing me as I walked up, as I
walked up to the as I walked up to the plate.
They had a game. They had a game in Cincinnati,
a Pete Rose game, a softball game after Pete had

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left town. And they sold it out in Cincinnati. And
I never forget this. Johnny Bench played, Johnny Bench struck
out in softball. To me, I mean, I have no
fear of sports whatsoever anymore. After seeing Johnny Bench, the
greatest catcher of all time, striking out and playing softball.
That was a thrill for me. That's about one of
the things that me and Johnny Bench got in Calm
can't hit softball. Well, I'm glad you mentioned base but

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because at the top of the show here I said
stop the Season. Will tell you why I mentioned stop
the season. Can baseball get any better after that Field
of Dreams game? Because I watched it, you know, and
really the game was almost secondary to the Fox pregame production,
and I was wonderful. I mean, you've seen the movie
even feel even better about it was everything you want
to know about baseball is the best TV ratings in

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sixteen years. However, the NFL exhibition out drew them, so
of tells you that baseball is good, but it's not
as good as football as far as viewership is because
an interest well, I mean, at the end of the day,
NFL is king the NFL. The NFL runs all of this,
it's financing all this like. But in times of the
just the Field of Dreams game, I thought it was great.
I love that I thought it was and I think

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that Fox not to just be a company man. But
Fox really does those big Super Bowl like they make
those big events feel really big. And I'm like, at
the end of the day, it was just a regular
season baseball game. A great finish, though it was a
great was unbelievable. It was great. Of course, you know,
I'm hearing talk radio. I'm reading stories all over the country,

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national stories, people talking about it, and everybody is going, God, God,
and baseball is gonna kill it. Pickle'sti gonna do it
again next year. I think the clubs are gonna play
the Cardinals. I want to be a bit of m
I hate to use the term down there, but number one,
I don't get it. I don't get the love affair here.
And and honestly, it was a stunt. And I say
a stunt for stunt's sake. Office little value it really
does at games publicity. What you did, it gained awareness,

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what you did for the product. But there was no
local tie in. You're playing baseball, the game of baseball
in the middle of a cornfield. It didn't help the
area's major league team. You know why there ain't a
team in Iowa. But but baseball is the most regional
game of of all the professional sports that we have.
Baseball is the most regional game already. Like people in
Kansas City don't necessarily care what the San Francisco Giants

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are doing, right, I think if you have a moment
like this, that's good that and that's not necessarily good
that there's no local team or no local tie in.
But the idea that this national, I mean, this is
a national. Like he said, highest ratings in sixteen years,
everybody cared about this regular season baseball game because it
was played in Iowa. I think because it was You know,
you're right, I'm hearing you loud and clear. But I

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will say this, if I'm Rob Man for the Commissioner Baseball,
I sit down and say, you know what, it worked.
I don't want to beat it to death, and we'll
do it again next year. But maybe we should do
since space ball, as you say, it's in regional sport,
maybe we should move around some games in neutral sits.
Play a game like an Albuquerque in New Mexico, in Nashville, Tennessee,
in Buffalo, New York with Toronto played their home games
before the COVID deal was over up there. You know, really,

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maybe that's what they should do to gain interest game
of foothold and maybe get people who have never seen
a major league game go to major league games and
do a neutral site. I think it's a great idea
because if you just think about it, I mean, baseball
regular season games have been devalued so much right up
until the end of the season you're in the playoff race.
But like a team will go on a five game

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losing streak and nobody will care a team going to
five in winning streak and something. They'll be like, oh,
that team is great. But when you because you have
a hundred and sixty two of them things, you have
time to make it up oftentimes, right, you have so
much time, And I mean, Andy, last year you had
the regular season was so devalued. Doublehead is only seven innings, right,
so like they're topping innings off the game. Imagic football

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game and it was seven minutes left in the fourth quarter.
It's never happened, right, So like the idea that you can,
if anything that you can do in baseball to make
me care before the playoffs, I'm all in. I'm all in.
Let's go to Albuquerque, let's go let's play within an
area area fifty four or wherever it is, where the
aliens are. Let's make it fun, you know, go to Roswell,
New Mexico, because like, if you think about it a

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lot of times, and people that this isn't I've heard
this repeated before, but baseball at its roots, it's a
minor league game, like it's it's a game where kind
of barnstorm and that's where it came up, guys going
across the country and playing different and that's basically it's
the same way now with guys going on road trips.
And so I think it would be great to do that.
I really think it would be a good idea. And
did the idea that it's gonna grow old fast? And

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the Furious Nine is in the movie theaters right now.
I don't Americans say they want new things, but nobody's
not watching the Super Bowl because Tom Brady's in it.
Like I think everybody we always say we want new things,
but sequels happened, like we're on Star Wars, what eleven twelve, thirteam?
You know, Yeah, no, you're right, but I thought I
will see this. Major League baseball, the regular season already
gets plenty of media coverage. We know that, so Alternatively,

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holding the game before the regular season I think would
have attracted national attention as a prelude maybe to Opening Day.
I know the weather is a factor, but maybe they
should have done I couldn't do it in Iowa obviously,
because it's played twelve ft of snow over there. But
the stage this game in the middle of the regular
season with about fifty games remaining, when baseball already is
covered daily, to me makes little sense. Also, consider that

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baseball coverage is going to increase as the season approaches
the playoffs in the World Series. That's all I'm saying.
I think the game was great. The setting was great,
the camera work was unbelievable, the pregame show was wonderful.
The corn fields it was wonderful. But I think maybe
the timing may have been a little off whack. And
they do that in baseball because even when they have
the Hall of Fame inductions, baseball games have played that day.

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Have it on a separate day, don't play any games
that day. And honestly, what they should do if they're
playing the game in Iowa, I say take a game
and got a Cooperstown They used to have like a
Cooperstown exhibition game every year at the Whole of Fame game.
They should have a regular season game in Cooperstown every year.
I will say this, I agree with you on the
timing that this should be for the All Star Game.
We should not be having because, like I said, right,

(10:04):
the major the baseball regular season is so long, so
like the individual game itself does not necessarily matter. So
let's make sure it's really one of the ones. Let's
play in the first forty games, right, Lets maybe the
first fifty games of the year, as opposed to in
the back half where I mean, you know too, you
had team's independent race. You know those Cubs and Cardinals
next year, what you know, Cardinals might be you know,

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challenging for something in that game. They might want to
go out there. They may not want to lose a
home game to go and play in the corn fields,
which you know, it's all cool on TV and all,
but you know, at the end of the day, these
are guys trying to win games and and uh and
and keep their jobs right, And I'll see this. Kevin
Costan looked great. The game itself was exciting, But look,
I will tell you this about stunts. I've stayed stunts

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and only when they had an immediate and positive influence
on the promotion. For example, I worked at various race
tracks across the country and had Chris Collinsworth, who at
the time play for the Cincinnati Bengals, race a horse
and and it worked out. That goes to have immediate success,
positive influence, and it attracted a lot of people in bublicity.
When I worked at Monsla Raceway up state in New York,
I had Beasley Reeves who was playing for the New
York Football Giants. He raced no worse. The stunt works

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all the time. Chad Johnson, I had him race a horse.
It works all the time because people are not used
to seeing events like that. When I worked at another
race track, I had two elephants racing on the track.
It worked. I was lucky. It was a circus in town.
But look TV saw it and what back in nineteen
eighty one, you probably weren't even born then. Back in
nineteen eighty one, I worked in a desolate dog track
in Belmont, New Hampshire. I don't even think the place

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has a zip code. Lakes Region Greyhound Park and Belmont,
New Hampshire in nineteen eighty one, if you remember, there
was a baseball strike. I was blessed because there was
a guy who had a kennel of greyhounds named after
the New York Yankees. He had Willie Randolph. He had him,
all right. So I got the tapes of the races.
We set them down by and looked. There was no
computers back then. It was unbelievable. I had to go
to the Greyhound bus station in Belmont, New Hampshire. Had

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sent the tape down to w CBS TV in New
York to lend Berman to play it on his TV show,
and he did. So these are the promotions that I've done,
and they worked, and they did it for a media value,
for pr for exposure and also getting people through the gate.
I'm not gonna lie. I you raised elephants. I was blessed.
How how long did the elephants had to get it

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on the track? Well, they didn't move much. They didn't.
I will tell you Once one one of the elephants
did a number two on the track and I had
no idea. That affected the surface and the track was
closed for a week. Was that a resurface to track?
But at work, you know, we had several thousand people.
They we gave out three beds of peanuts. It was unbelievable.
It was great. It was a fun time. People talked about.
It was on TV and it was it was I
was lucky. It was a circus in town and I

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and I was. I asked the circus guy Coe barred
at two elephants. He thought I was nuts and we
had two nuts too. Who asked, who's asking for elephants?
Would you like the tiger as well? No, I'm afraid.
I'm afraid of if I could outrun an elephant, you
know what I'm saying, if the elephants started chasing me.
But they were tame, and it was good, and everybody
was there, and before the races, all the kids were there,
and they gave him elephant, right, So it weren't that

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rather nicely, it really did. I don't know if he
could do that now. Was there so many anti groups
that would say I'm abusing the animals. So I was
lucky at the time. You can't do a lot of
things now that I did back then, because if I
did it now, I probably am up in jail. Yeah,
I mean, you know, you know, interestingly enough, in the
beginning of I watched that documentary Tiger Kings and went
down a deep Wikipedia dive. Right, there's a there's a

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frightening amount of private zoos in America. You'd be surprised
just how close you are to an elephant at any
given moment. You're right, now, that's a great point. You're
right about that. You're exactly right. Okay, he's my guy
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We are in for the one and only Jonas Knox
and Bucky Brooks. But we're gonna get rocket and rolling
right now, and and w I said that they're gonna
be legit. Let's talk about the Chicago Bears. They haven't

(14:44):
had a mobile quarterbacks is Jim McMahon. They have not
a quarterback since the late Sid Luckman. But today I'm
watching the Bears play and Justin Fields, who I can't
believe was a pick that they picked up late and
they were lucky with this pick, they really were. I
gotta believe he's there guy. Everybody says Andy Dalt's gonna
be the start in quarterback. I don't think so he's
living up to the hype Justin Fields. And you know what,

(15:06):
the fans will not stand to have Andy Dalton behind
center when the Bears open up the season. There's absolutely
well I'll tell you what, I think Andy Dalton probably
will be provided that Justin Fields does. I mean, if
everything stays the same, right, we have two more preseason
games for the for the for the Bears to play,
so we'll see him getting more arrest But if I
did everything stays the same, I think we'll see Andy

(15:27):
Dalton out week one. But I literally just sent this
tweet out, well, I bet that Andy Dalton will be
starting by weeks I mean that Justin Fields will be
starting by week six. Because and we've seen the Andy
Dalton movie before, we saw it in Dallas last year.
You know it's it's it's not happening. And what Justin
Fields was doing today looked nothing different than what he
was doing when he was at Ohio State going and

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and to me, I was just like, damn, he looks
really good. He look I mean, he he didn't look
like it was his first time playing professional football. Yards
and a touchdown passer rating of over a hundred and six.
So he's on his way right now. But he's the
thing that I've heard, and I don't understand why they're
doing it. Said, the plan is not to rush Justin

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Fields development, just as the Kansas City Chiefs that Patrick
Mahomes sit and learned during his rookie season. However, Andy
Dalton is not Alex Smith. That's the difference. And I
don't know what you could learn with Andy Dalton. Andy
Dolton obviously went to Chicago hoping and praying, and guess
I guess they told him he was gonna be the
number one guy, and I think he probably will be,
but I don't think for long. I mean, look, let's

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let's be real here. Andy Dalton is Andy Dalton is
just is just a figure place right here right You
drifted a quarterback in the first round. That's the guy
that's gonna play. Here's the difference. Here's the difference between
those two situations and Justin Fields and Packer Mahomes, you know,
player independent the differences. Andy Reid has the cash a
and the wherewithal and the ability to walk into the
room and say, you know what, I'm gonna straight up

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for a guy and bench him for the whole year
because we got a guy right now, We're gonna have
a bridge quarterback. He can do that because he's Andy Reid.
Matt Naggy. Despite winning the Coach of the Year a
few years ago, has been on the hots this sea.
Who see that this is one of the hottest seats
out there right, So he doesn't have the time to waste.
I mean, if he wants to keep his job, he's
got to start justin fields. He's in his fourth year,

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has got a regular and twenty and he's one of
those guys that at the spurt the moment he makes decisions.
I don't think he's a long term guy. I really don't.
And look the surrounding fields with with everything he needs
to succeed, uh, including offensive weapons, new tackles. A couple
of offensive coaches that got the coach who Bill Laser.
He used to be in Cincinnati and the Lasers, so
Lazers a pretty good offensive mind. Went to Cornell. So

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I think they got the team set and I think
he's gonna be the guy. I really do, because but
I think the weird thing about it is, and take
this walk with me. I think Matt Naggie has to
start Andy Dalton to keep his job because because here's
the thing. He'll come out and then Bears will go
what you know, and two and two, one in three,

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and then you come in and you played the rookie,
and then you have okay, now I have excuses for
the bumps and bruises or well, you know, he's still
working through it. You know he's he's really not ready,
but we're just trying to get good looks. And then God,
for you know, let him go in and and do
do what he did today. And if that, if that translates,
obviously it's just one preseason game, but if that were
to translate throughout the season, now you've got your guy,

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and now now you're going through and you're you're winning games,
or at least you're feeling good about the games as
you're playing like and you can leave the season on
a on a high note. But let Justin Fields come
out and go at one and three, one and four
to start. Matt Naggi's might as those practice bags right
there and there. He's got no curveball if he starts
Justin Fields to begin with. So that's why I think

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while it doesn't make much sense in the football sense.
I think for the just the job security and life
and you know, and uh was it like life life length?
And for Matt Nagy in Chicago, I think it makes
sense for him to start any Dalton. You know, you're
selling me a little bit, not a lot, but you're
selling me. I'll tell you why I say that. Because
the Bears open the season at the L. A. Rams
on a Sunday nights September twelve. I don't know if

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you want to put Justin Fields in those in that
stage on a Sunday night game where all his peers,
the entire league is watching that game. I think it's
kind of rough to throw him in there. So I
don't think he's gonna start that game. But then they
go and host Cincinnati on the nineteenth. I would be
a wonderful game to see Joe Burrow and Justin Fields
go hit the head. I'd love to see that Sunday September. Yeah,
there you go perfectly, especially in that Sunday night game,

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last game of the day, last game of week one,
the entire world is watching. I just but I'll tell
you what the boy today look good. I know he
had that fumble. But I mean he looks, I mean,
his speed looks real Like he doesn't look like he
fast for a quarterback. He looks like a fast football player,
you know what I mean. Like he's not necessarily running
back fast, but he looks he's fast out there. He

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looks like he's got a good sense about him. And
the thing that I'd like to see it. I don't
know if it's gonna transition going forward. I need to
I don't. I don't. I never played football. I don't know.
Maybe defensive minds out there could tell me that I'm incorrect.
But the way he was able to roll out and
still see some of the field behind him was really
impressive to me. Yeah, he played the entire second Quarte
played the entire third quarter. He led the Bears the

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three scoring drives total seventeen points. He didn't start. He
started the game just two for six for eleven years,
but finished twelve and fourteen one. Who I was for
Andy Dalton? I guess the competition now for the starting job.
Perhaps we don't know. He finished two for four eighteen
yards and only two series, and the Bears failed to
score on both of his possessions. What does it mean.
I don't know what it means. I really don't. And

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I think that you're hitting hitting it on the head
where maybe you don't want to throw him to the
Wolves on Sunday Night football against the l A. Rams.
But you know, you know, Andy, I'll tell you this.
I felt it on Draft night. I said it on
Draft night, tweeted it on Draft night, and today watching
his first NFL snaps, I said it that I was like, Yo,
the Detroit Lions pene, so it might be a Hall

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of Fame offensive tackle, but the Detroit Lions. As Matt
Stafford walked out of the door to UH to the
Los Angeles Rams had justin Fields on the board at
seven and walked right past him and let him go
in the division to the Chicago Bears, who like you,
like you outlined in the beginning of this segment, have
really never had a quarterback of great note right, and

(21:11):
I will say much. I've never been an NFL general manager.
No I intend to be one, but I tell you
right now, if someone gave me the deal to do it,
I would draft a quarterback every time. If you're nothing
without a quarterback. You know, the teams that are in
dire straits have no quarterback, and it's a crap shoot.
I go get it. You know, you get a guy
out of college like a Justin Fields, and let's face it,
Ohio State has not had a lot of luck with

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their players going from Ohio State to the pros becoming quarterbacks.
But Justin Fields looks like he's got it. And I
draft a quarterback every day of the week. And look
you look at Denver, look what they have. They got nothing.
They got nothing going on now because they don't have
a quarterback. And it's the thing. And you talk about
the hype now for Chicago, it's through the roof, and
they got a shot with that division because yeah, you
got green Bay, but Minnesota is nothing and Detroit it's

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not gonna be anything either. So I think there's a
real good shot that Chicago goes to the playoffs. And
I mean and and green Bay does not necessarily seem
to be the uh, the most comfortable living situation currently
between head coach and quarterback and general manager. Right, I mean,
it's that was the whole topic of the off season.
Is Aaron Rodgers gonna retire and go go be a
Jeopardy host? Right? Like it's like so it's like the

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whole idea behind Green Bay. Do you have Green Bay? Uh?
You know it's early to say, but with Kirk Cousins
and and his vaccination hesitancy is causing the Vikings quarterback
situation to not be nearly as as as status as
as rock solid as it has been in the last
couple of years. I think I probably am going to
go home tonight and put in a little future bet

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on in Chicago to win the division. Wow, that's that's
pretty bad. I tell you one thing though, I mean
he was pretty good. Aaron Rodgers was pretty good on Jeopardy.
I watched it. It wasn't bad. He was andy what
you have to know. I'm a I'm an incredible, incredible
Jeopardy fan. And then it made me, Yeah, I've taken
the test three or four times, actually three times, and
I've gotten to I got to the third round the

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last time in the middle of it was in twenty
was all on Zoom. I was I was almost almost selected,
but I didn't quite make it. So I'm re be
resubmitting and it made me furious, furious just how good
Aaron Rodgers is at two different things. No, lamy, what
kind of a test is it? How long does I
gotta hear this? Is it like the S A T
s the college boards? Well? Oh no, no, no, no, no no,

(23:20):
it's it's actually it takes less than an hour for
the first for the initial test, it was very quick.
It's fifty questions. You got to pay to do this.
I don't know, it's all free. It's fifty fifty questions,
fifty categories, and you have to score in a certain
percentile to move on from to move on to the
next round, which is then I believe it's like twenty

(23:40):
five questions, and actually, you know, it's the same thing,
fifty questions and fifty questions again. And then the last
round that I had, you're actually were being interviewed and
have to answer the questions kind of like but it
was all through zoom because it was But how long
does it take to find that if you're in or not?
Oh you've I've never gotten the end. I did get
the out obviously, and that that one came. I'd say

(24:03):
most of the time they just kind of let you.
You'll know, right, you didn't qualify for the You didn't
you didn't pass, like you you have to be in
You're in thee better next time, Champ, Well, I hope
you're not Quitting're gonna still do it? Right? Of course not?
And because you know, I'll tell you why you like
Michael Richards. I thought he did a good job. He
got that, he got the deal. I'm not the biggest
fan of Mike Richards. I would have I really, I
really would have liked Robin Roberts. I know she's got

(24:25):
a day job, but I thought she really brought something
different to the show that I would have enjoyed it.
They didn't feel like like like Joe Buck. I felt
like Joe shut up, come on broke, like read the questions,
you know. But I felt like Robin Roberts when she
when she added in it, it gave me something. It
gave me a little bit more. But there's no show
on television and which you can make more money in

(24:45):
twenty five minutes. There's no show. But you gotta be smart.
That's why I can't try out for it. That is
true something I'd love to see you one that would
be great. You know, you gotta be able to understand
what the question is asking. I think it's more important
than being smart, because, don't get me wrong, pretty smart.
I'm no brainy act on. I'm not. I'm not. I'm
not launching rockets into space. Are you know? Solving cancer

(25:06):
right now? But I do have a pretty good memory,
and I can tell you like years and numbers and
so on and so forth. But the key is knowing
what the question is asking. There you go, he's Martin
Wife's I'm Andy Freman. Warning for Jonas Sknocks and Bucky Brooks.
This is Fox Sports Saturday and Fox Boats ready and
by the way, his jerseys already a hot cell. That's next.
The first of all, Guy David get what the late

(25:27):
is David Gegan's gascon be a professional radio host? Wow? Wow, alright,
good man, slap me around a little bit, Martin if
you want that, Mike Nerff said David gag On. That's
good enough of me. Mike Nurse not here anymore? Is he?
What happened to him? Hey, Martin, I'll take that action

(25:49):
if you wanted the Bears were in the division, don't
you don't need to go to a book. I'll take
that free money. I gotta see what I gotta see
what the numbers look like. But with Martin really confident.
Let me tell you why with and he almost made
Jepany you couldn't get in the door in Jeopany believe. Well,
it's online, so you know I can't get through a
door on zoom. Come on, Andy, Jesus Christ Martin. I

(26:10):
want that action, dude. I mean, I'm only gonna I'm
gonna see what the numbers are. I'm not dropping anything incredible.
I mean I'm talking about like ten bucks here, fifteen buck?
What do you think I'm doing. I'm not dropping away.
I don't know. Man, You're talking here like you're really
firing away. So it's fire away, shall we? I mean
it's we have had two more preseason games to see.
I really have to see when Justin Fields is gonna
take the field. Why does it matter? Though? What do

(26:31):
you Why does it matter? Because Matt, now you might
not that Naggy runs Andy Dalton in there for ten
weeks and I'm gonna feel like a complete idiot. And
every time I go in the radio, I'm gonna have
to talk to I think it's d probably coaching first
job though, So I think better happened. I got the scenario.
I'll tell you the future right here. When they put
Andy Dalton on the center, the offensive line is not
gonna plock. That's gonna knocked out. And that's why Justin

(26:52):
fields to play. Oh man, let be brutal. Good to
see though, guys. Two games today, one of them is
at the break right now, Denver in Minnesota. Good start
for a rookie. They're down a five shot in time
four man rush. Browning throws a past right side, passes
picked off. This is gonna be a house call, and
welcome to the NFL. Patrick Curtin, Pat Surtin with a

(27:12):
interception of Jake Browning and a return for a score. Yeah,
thirty yards and the pick six Broncos Radio Network kJ
Hamler and eight year touchdown reception Deborah at the break,
leading Minnesota twenty six to six. Speaking of Justin Fields,
snap safety, blitz, play fakes, setting up fields, everything picked up,
white open Jesse James half the five just beats into

(27:35):
the end zone. Leisurely touchdown, touchdown bears. Hey, they take
to day for the first time today over the Dolphins.
Daly was for good as well. They wanted over Miami
twenty to thirteen. Fields, two touchdowns, one through the air,
one on the ground. It was fourteen and twenty two
yards to a eight of eleven ninety nine yards, but

(27:55):
did throw a pick in that contest. Prior to take
game one of a double header from Milwaukee fourteen to nine.
Pittsburgh drummed to nineteen hits in that affair. Guys, back
to you, all right, thank you, see you about an hour.
All right, he's the hope. We'll get to that in
just a minute. He's Martin White, I'm Andy Ferman. We're
in for Jonas Knocks and Buckey Brooks right here on
Fox Sports Saturday. And I tell you what the future

(28:16):
of the New England Patriots. I gotta believe it could
very well be Mac Jones. And they beat Washington Thursday night.
Jones entered the game with about a minute ago. He
left in the first quarter, was two f five twenty
yards in his first position, and he led into a
fifty yard field goal. And here's the deal, my friend.
For the first time since nine, the Patees draft of
the quarterback in the first round when they selected Jones

(28:37):
out of Alabama fifteenth overall. The pick gives Jones the
highest expectations out of any rookie Bill Belichick has ever
drafted in New England. But it doesn't mean he's gonna
play this season or Willie. I don't know. I think
he will. They need to, i'd say, I mean, I
just Mac Jones all. I don't understand what happened in
between the end of college football season and the draft

(29:00):
into which mac Jones was putting the same class as
Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields and and and and and
obviously Trey Lance. But I didn't. I didn't never saw
Tray Lance play football until I still haven't seen Trey
Lands play football, right, I don't watch North Dakota State,
no offense. But you know, I just didn't see mac
Jones being the same level of those two guys. And
watching the Pagers preseason game like I wasn't overly overwhelmingly

(29:24):
impressed with mac Jones. He didn't seem to have incredible
arm strength like watching I mean, if you look at
Fields today and mac Jones yesterday's night and day, um
so I don't. I don't know if mac Jones is
gonna be the guy in the way that everybody thinks
he's going to. I don't know, but he said that
NT double a single season record his seventies seven point
for a completion percentage last year. And the funny thing is,

(29:44):
I mean he was thirteen nineteen eighty seven yards on
that game on against Washington, the big news in New England,
and when the game was there he wears number ten.
His jersey is like one of the hottest things going
in the New England area right now. So I mean
that fans are hungry. I don't know what kind of
pressure that put saw on that team, and it's certainly
not gonna put any pressure on Bill Belichick and his decision.
But I think this team is on the cups. It

(30:05):
really was. They lost so many guys last year that
got out because of COVID and it's just obviously Brady
not being there. They weren't that bad considering without Brady.
I where they finished. I think this team could be
a contender. Can they be Buffalo? I don't think so.
Can they get in the playoffs? I think they can.
I mean, it wouldn't shot me. I mean it's hard
to bet against Bill Belichick making the playoffs, right, even

(30:27):
last year, like you said, they had, they had the
most opt outs preseason, and then we're kind of humbling
along through the first four or five weeks before you know,
Cam Newton himself called COVID and then they had a
couple of different, uh you know guys missing and going
into that game against the Chiefs, um and and they
were like a couple of bad fumbles away from wins
that should have been losses that should have been wins.

(30:48):
Um But I would say, like with the Patriots, I'm
not gonna bet have been Bill Belichick to make the playoffs.
I liked them went making the playoffs. I think that
I don't. I think Buffalo might be a little fools gold. Honestly,
I think the probably still win that division, but I
don't think they're nearly as good as ANFC championship Buffalo
was last year. They were, Yeah, they were a run
heavy team last year, and they've always relied on that

(31:10):
running game that got the kids Stevenson in the fourth
round from Oklahoma. This kids of Bruser. I think this
kid can make some dense there. I'm just saying, I
don't know, but I wouldn't bet against Bill Belichick. I wouldn't.
I just honestly think that defensively, I think they're gonna
be much improved and I think that the quarterback situation,
it'll be iron out. I'll be iron out before soon.
It really will, because they need to get this done.
Although Cam Newton was not that bad last year and

(31:33):
then he got hurt and that was the problem. But
I think that I think his best days behind them.
I just don't think Kim can get it done. Cam's
best days are behind But let's think about what Cam's
best days were fifteen and one m v P Cam Newton, right, Like,
of course his best days are behind him because he
was incredible at his height, right and you know, one
of the few players so I felt like really really
earned like the superman thing because he was really putting

(31:55):
a team on his back. If it's going even back
going back to his college days. If you go back
and look Cam Newton's college offensive for college, uh, the
other ten players starting with him, you only you won't
see any of those names playing professional football. Like. So
the thing about Cam though, he brings that extra dynamic
in the run game, and I feel like Bill Belichick

(32:15):
and Joash McDaniels, you saw it last year when they
were when they were successful, Cam was running the ball.
So do I think that he'll be able to run
the ball in the way that you know he has
when he was running for m v P type years.
Absolutely not. But if he can stay healthy, which is
the biggest if of all time obviously, but if he
can stay healthy, I don't see why Cam Newton wouldn't
be the guy at least for this year going forward,

(32:38):
because again we were just talking about with Matt Naggen
and Andy Reid, Bill Belichick and bench whoever the hell
he wants next year. He's not getting fired, right, it's
his team. He does whatever he wants to do. And
I think that he did say early on and he
repeated that statement after the game. I went on Thursday
night that Cam Newton is gonna be his quarterback. That
we'll see. But you know, if Mac Jones outplays him
in the preseason, it looks better. I don't know if

(32:59):
you'll play becau, I don't think he's gonna play that much.
Then basically you know you're on your way, and I
think Mac Jones is gonna be the guy. But he's
the thing that I don't understand. I really don't. They
play these preseason games and this year down from four
to three, you know, it's kind of Like in boxing
and boxing, you have to have practice. You have to
have a sparring partner. You're not gonna go in the
ring and get your head beat in without a sparring partner.

(33:20):
So why do these guys have preseason games and these
guys never play like you? I'm interested in if I
live in the Cincinnati area. So tonight we after we finished,
I'm gonna watch that Cincinnati Bengals game against Tampa Bay. Now,
Bruce Arian says that Tom Brady is gonna play because
he said his offense stinks, maybe to getting complacently after
the Super Bowl. Who knows, and Tom Brady is gonna play.
Now the Bengals say that Joe Burrow is not gonna

(33:41):
touch the field. I'm gonna say, wait a minute. You
gotta get the guys some feel with an offensive line
handing the ball off. Just get get some comfort level there.
You have to play, just like I'm boxing, you have
to have a sparring partner. I agree. I mean, I
think you need to go out there at least go
for a series or two and and be smart. Right,
I'm not saying go out there like if you watch

(34:02):
the Hard Knocks Michael Parsons was like, I wont another series, No, buddy,
let's have a seat, pal relaxed. You've done it there,
you did your job. But I do think it's I
think there's value and going out there and and and
just getting into the huddle, calling plays and seeing faces
on the other side of the ball that you didn't
necessarily see in practice the day before. I think there's
incredible value to that um And I honestly I find

(34:25):
that the coaches that have had more success in this
This is anecdotal, but like it feels like they're not playing,
like they're playing their guys in the preseason a little
bit just to get some reps, just to get some
of them early like Super Bowl, like you said, Toper
Bowl champion, temper by Buccaneers. Who what are they gonna
do there? They don't like the where their offense is,
They're gonna go out there and get a series. You know,
it just makes sense to me. I don't like the
whole It seems to be like a newer maybe a

(34:48):
newer attitude, right you see guys like Mike Let's be
like they dumbed down the NFL. That's what they dumb
They goes back in the day, like when the late
Paul Brown was coaching Cincinnati. They did two days. They
did two of days, they went to training camp for
six weeks. Now they don't even wear pads and they
practiced for forty five minutes. It doesn't make any sense.
And I gotta believe there's gotta be a correlation between
the amount of injuries that are being concurred right now

(35:10):
and the lack of practice that has to be I
don't know, since it is interesting because I was always
under the thought process of playing more football would cause
more injuries. But very well be and we'll see that
this year when they played a seventeenth game. You know,
it's it's a game that you know thrives really on injuries.
It's one of those brutal games, and there's gonna be injuries.
But still in all if you're prepared for it, you know,

(35:31):
you're probably ready and maybe more adapt to working into
the situation so you won't get injured. Maybe I don't know,
but I gotta believe that more practice gets you ready
and better and more fit into the game of football. Yeah,
I'm going to I'm in Los Angeles. I'm going to
the Battle of l a tonight, right to go see

(35:51):
the Chargers and the Rams and preseason action. But I'm
not gonna see either starting quarterback tonight. But I have
no idea why. I'm not why, and Herbert is not
going to play it. No wouf being hurt. I'm sure
that'sh it. But okay, but then why play him at all? Then?
Like with you, I mean, you gotta get the reps.
You gotta get practice, like that's like play. You know, Look,

(36:12):
let's go back, let's go go down to high school.
Say you're a high school basketball coach and you gotta
start players avaging game. You're not gonna let him practice
because he make it hurt and practicing and like roll
his leg, roller roll his foot and practice going for
a rebound. It's crazy. They don't do it in high school.
They don't do it in college. But there's really no
preseason in college. But still little I don't know what
they do it in the pros. I just don't get it.

(36:34):
I know, you gotta play to play the game. You
gotta play, and especially like a guy like to me,
you got guys who are in it makes if you
if a guy like Aaron Rodgers says you know, I'm
not taking any preseason snaps. Cool, no problem, Champ. That's
fine with me because you're a Champ. You're the m
v P. Right, He's like, you know what you're doing

(36:54):
out here. But like Justin I guy, like Justin Herbert,
I don't get it. Like a first year coach like
Brandon Daily, Why don't you like he's saying that his
practice time, the practices that they have are more indicative
of what's gonna happen in the game. Anyway, Well, he's
full of it. I'm saying, how would it, How would it?
How would preseason not be more indicative what's gonna happen
in the game because it's an actual game. Right? And

(37:15):
when I hear that Joe Burrow is not gonna play
for fear of getting hurt, you know what does that
due to his confidence level? You gotta go in there,
plant that knee that was operated on and say, look,
I'm ready to go, I'm feeling good, give me the football,
so we move on. I don't know. He's my guy,
He's Martin Wiss, I'm Andy Ferman. We are Fox Sports
Saturday on Fox Butts Radio. He said, it's nothing to
worry about is it will tell you next. He's the

(37:38):
franchise that's right around the corner. By the way, he
is Martin Wiss. I'm Andy Fermanan. We're in for a
Jonahs Knocks and Buckey Brooks and it's about nine minutes
before the top of the hour. And my friend, when
you hear the term America's Team, automatically you think of
one thing, the star the Dallas Cowboys car. I mean,
you know, there are other teams that kind of vibe
for that title, maybe the Yankees. Other than that, I

(38:00):
don't know what other team you could, even the Patriots,
I don't think so. No, have to half America hated
Tom Brady and the other half loved him. So maybe
that maybe that is a true America's team. But no,
America America's team is the Dallas Cowboys. Why why are
they America's team? Great branding and marketing, That's why, great
branding and marketing, and the hype is through the roof

(38:22):
right now. No matter what their regular is, they played
in the Hall of Fame game, they now want hard knocks.
But their quarterback, Dak Prescott, he's planning another mr right
to check out that right shoulder strain this weekend. He
says he's gonna be on the field when they opened
the season against Tampa Bay on the ninth of September. Look,
without him, they ain't nothing. There was six and ten
last year, but through five games and he had that
surgery last he had to repair that compound fracture in

(38:43):
his ryan ankle. He was the NFL passing leading with
over eighteen hundred yards, So they need him. He says,
there's nothing to worry about. If I'm a Dallas fan,
if I'm a Dallas personnel person, I'm worried. I'm worried
big time. Really Well, you know any time that your
organization comes out with a eat that says, don't worry,
it's not a setback. It's but Dak Prescott's gonna have

(39:05):
an m R. I it's time to worry because there's
been a setback, Right? Is that exactly what happened to
short that could be on the field September nine against
the cowb I mean against the Buccaneers. It just matters
is he gonna have a helmet on or is he
gonna have a hat on? Because he's gonna be there,
I'm sure. But he's gonna have a hat on because
I don't see how he can play currently constructed like
with this way that this thing is going. He's throwing

(39:26):
the soft toss and tennis balls. They we're supposed to
be playing. I mean, and we're looking at guys playing
football right now. We're talking about how quarterbacks need to
be playing to get ready. That's not healthy and if
it's anything that I know from watching football, you're not
gonna get healthier as the season progresses. You're exactly no
one good thing Dallas has going for them during the
same division with the Giants to Eagles in Washington, so

(39:46):
they got a shot. I mean, you can finish with
the losing record and still make the playoffs and win
that division as Washington did last year. I mean, I mean,
don't get me wrong, it's a putrid division, but I
think I think that you know, the Giants have sequan
coming back. We'll get to that in a little bit.
But Washington's defensive front is incredible. Then the Cowboys and
their biggest problems outside of the dock is defense, Like

(40:07):
without doctor nothing, but they still might not be nothing
because that defense can't stop nobody. Well, you know that
got Dan Quinn. Maybe they'll make a difference. I don't know.
They say he's dumped it down a little bit, said
a bigger difference. But you know what, there was six
and ten list here because obviously of quarterback DK Prescott
being gone with the ankle, they lost their left tackle,
Tyrone Smith he had a bad neck. Right tackle Collins
he was gone with his hip, a vand age he

(40:27):
was gone with a Colin Browne, Triston Hill he was
gone to defensive tackle with a knee. They all had surgery.
So these guys weren't even playing together. I think there's
a chance that this team could jel and come together.
But it all depends on one thing. Depends on DK Prescott.
I can't believe it didn't address the back of quarterback
this offseason. It's crazy. Yeah, it really who knows, I
don't know. We'll see he is my guy. Martin Wissam,

(40:49):
Andy Fermani. By the way, all of a sudden, the
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(41:09):
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in for the one and only Jonas Knocks and Bucky
Brooks right here on Fox Sports Saturday. And you gotta
help me, m w gotta help me here. I'm looking
at the score. I'm here in David Gascon saying thirty

(41:55):
three to six? Is Denver that good or is Minnesota
that bad? Because I thought that there was a quarterback
whatsoever in Denver, and I guess still it isn't. I
don't know Drew Lot five or seven, Terry Bridge Enny
Bridge Water comes in the seven for eight. It's gotta
be a lack of defense on Minnesota. They've gotta be
just putred really well. That and you know you had
certains pick six. So that thirty three is it is

(42:16):
about seven points higher than it than it probably should
be right now, right because that had the defensive score.
But it's I just think this is a Vikings offense,
that it was just Vikings teams. I don't know. I
don't know. I don't think the Vikings are are together
what I've seen coming out of this offseason and what
I've seen just just going into training Campbell, I don't
know if the Vikings are gonna be the you know,

(42:37):
the you kind of had Pencilvan Vikings in to compete
for a wild card going forward. I don't know. I
don't I'm not a big believer in them this year.
I think that they're going to struggle. I think there's
a major problem with the Kirk Cousins situation and the
COVID vaccination. I really believe that I think that could
break up a team. I really do. I mean, he
doesn't want to be vaccinated. There are guys going out

(42:57):
there to the war and he doesn't want to. He
did want to go out with him. And you know,
he's not only hurting himself his family, but he's hurting
his teammates, he's hurting the organization. So I don't get
it and in his eyes, and I don't want to
spend a lot of time on COVID and vaccinations. If
you want to get a vaccination, get it. If you don't,
don't get it, it's it's you. It's your decision. But
if you're playing for an organization, working for an organization
and they need you and you're part of a team,

(43:20):
I think it's it's your You have to do that. Really,
And I will say one of the thing. You know,
everybody in the NFL, I would assume has played high
school football. And in order to play high school football,
you have to be vaccinated. You have to be vaccinated
for smallpox, measles, mumps, you know, the chicken pots wherever
it is. Why wouldn't you be vaccinated? Now, I don't
under you know what I'm I'm not the smartest guy

(43:40):
in the world, bo Amy, and you know that now
speaking with me. But not to get a vaccination, You've
got a complete, complete schmuck. Really, it makes no sense
to me. But at the end of the day, whether
or not you want to get vaccinated or not, I
think the appropriate decision is to get vaccinated if you're
healthy and able to and if not, then you know,
do your best not even do your best research. I
don't know what research you can find that's gonna tell

(44:01):
you to not do it. But you don't get get
the research, but get it from the proper source. Don't
get it on social media. But in any event, like
if you're just looking at this is from a purely
football perspective, you have to look at it like a
multiple week injury, right, you have to you have to
look at it like a multiple week like you have
to look at like a concussion. Right. He's like, it's
so essentially right now at any given moment in time,

(44:23):
Kirk Cousins could bump into the wrong person and now
all of a sudden, Boomerican cussion protocol and you maybe
you can come back on Wednesday, Maybe you can come
back on Thursday. Maybe it's not until next Monday. We
don't know, you know, and and and it's just like
generally though, as with concussions, they're typically gonna happen inside
of the sixty minutes of a football game. So you

(44:44):
have that that kind of it's either gonna happen on
a Thursday or a Saturday, I mean Thursday or a
Sunday or or Monday, so you kind of have those
built in. We expect to see these reports coming back.
You know, you know he participated in drills on Thursday,
and he wasn't lightheaded, and you but like we don't know,
we don't know, we don't know. So I you know,
I don't think that I don't think the lines are
gonna be very good. I know Gascon was busting was

(45:06):
busting me a little bit because I didn't want to
go with him on the UH or with with picking
the barrier to win the division. But it's really I
don't think the vikings aren't together and the lines are
gonna be terrible. So so between those two situations, I
felt like I got a pretty good shot. I do too,
But you know what, if you were a good negotiating,
you've got to gaskin and say, okay, I'll wager you,

(45:27):
but give me two games. Give me two games. That's
why I should have But you know what, Yeah, we'll
talk to gas go on a little bit. I don't know,
maybe we have something else will be on the table.
But yeah, with the idea, I just end to me. Really,
if your Kirk Cousins, I get to your the quarterback
of this team. But are you so good? Like are
you DeAndre Hopkins good? Because DeAndre Hopkins like I feel

(45:48):
like Arizona Cardinals will make it work? Don't make it
work for DeAndre Hopkins? How how much longer are you?
How much? How much leeway is Kirk Cousins. He's a
good player, but is he great? Is he optional? Like
I think that if like Patrick Mahomes wasn't vaccinated, they
figure it out in Kansas City, right, Like how much
figuring it out are we doing for Kirk Cousins here,

(46:08):
I'll tell you what. They got a long hold, they
really do. And you know, their offense lest it wasn't bad,
they were like throw the fourth in the league and
offense total offense. But they do need him. But you know,
without the vaccination, it's could be ugly. It really is
I did the excuses he gave that, you know, give
me a bigger quarterback room to study. And I mean,
come on, the guy's a fool. I mean it's I
want to move on. I want about something else because

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he just turns my stomach. I mean, to be that
selfish and to be that pig headed, it's just so stupid.
It really, it's it's to me, honestly, it's no different
than like not getting a start. Like if you if
you know you got hurt and you could go rehabit
and you just choose not to. At the end of
the day, that's a decision that you made, is gonna
hurt your team, right, So Michael Thomas did with the Saints,
and he and he did it intentionally to like spite

(46:50):
the Saints, right, Like that was the whole thought process.
And it's like if you're so, if you're looking at
this from any other aspect besides that, in terms of
Kirk Cousins had to play football. If you don't want
to get vaccinated, right, the NFL will go on without you, Kirk, really,
and so all the vikings already. But let's talk about
college basketball first. Sec But this story came out just
the other day and just you gotta scratch your head,
what's going on? He was the college basketball coaches didn't

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have a tough already. Now they entered the elite league situation.
Now it's gonna be heaven for a talented player who
doesn't like going to school. And let's face it, honestly,
college and term papers is not for everybody, It really isn't.
I mean, I give Andrew Luck a lot of credit
because I dogged him pretty good when he was at Stanford.
He decided to come back for another year. Said what
go back for another year for term papers? Why why

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would you do that? The money's out there, you can't
get hurt, go to the NFL. But he went back
to Stanford for another year. But this Bryce Grimm story,
four star point guard's gonna sign with overtime Elite. He
was set to enter a senior year in high school
Fort Ben Hightower High School in Texas. He had office
from Baylor in Kansas. And this is gonna make recruiting
even tougher, and it's gonna make the illegal dealings even

(47:53):
more so. A lot of money under the table right now, Well,
the thing is just like illegal to whom right like
to the law or to the n C Double A exactly,
that's I think that's really what that that needs to
college basketball. I don't think the n C Double A
at this point in time. What it needs to realize
is that your your soul function really is to operate

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for New Year's Day bowls, right and and March madness
and just get out of the way because this is
happening over time is happening. There's there's no there's no way,
there's no two ways about it. You've got you've got
guys who are but the thing about the overtime thing, right,
the Bryce Grimm's of the world are the Jalen Greenes
who was playing in professionally and it's skewed college to

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play professionally in the G League. There's only gonna be
like forty at those guys, right, Like, realistically every year,
thirty to forty at those guys that are really truly
the type that are gonna be, you know, drawing this high, high,
high level of attention. Right, So I don't think that
necessarily college basketball coaches are gonna have. The bigger thing

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to me is the idea of a trans report and
college basketball is more of an issue, which is crazy.
It's like free agency in college. That's basically what it is. Right.
You look at Baylor who won the last championship, Davian Mitchell,
one of the best players. He wasn't recruited by Baylor
until what the year he got there. Right, it's nuts,
it really And it's also the name, image and likeness
N I L situation. I mean, if I'm if I'm

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a senior in high school and not being recruited by
many schools, but I'd rather and I don't want too
at school out of random and kind of dump on them.
But if I go to a school, maybe a Mountain
West College is recruiting me heavily, and I got a
chance to go to a Big ten school, I'm going
to a Big ten school because the opportunity to make
more money with N I L is right there for
the for the ask. And we've seen kids leaving other

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schools to go to schools like Ohio State. What is
a bigger situation, you know, bigger I guess alumni force money,
you know, opportunities to make more money. It really is,
and I think that's gonna be a big recruiting hall
for coaches to fight, I think, but I honestly think
that's gonna be even playing field. I was having this
conversation with somebody that he's an Ohio State fan and

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I'm a Michigan fan, and I'm not trying to incendiate anything,
but he was talking about how many games in Michigan
gonna win, and I was like, Michigan doesn't have the
want to to win games in the same way that Alabama, Clemson,
and Ohio State do, so it doesn't really matter what
they want to. They seem to put forth wait, entirely
more resources into winning than Michigan does. Like Michigan would

(50:24):
like to win, right, they put a lot of resources
that Jim Harbas contract. That's a hell of a resource
right there. Now. I get I I get that, But
I'm just saying, I think when you have these now,
I think, becauld, you really have three major programs in
college football right when you look at this, Clemson, Alabama,
and Ohio State. Every so often LSU will pop its
head up and so on and so forth. But again again,

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Georgia teams with like also the incredible one to incredible pressure,
like they really want to win down there and there
really are trying, Like if they don't beat Alabama a
few times, you know, hardball hasn't beat Ohio State ever,
and it's just like, Okay, well, you know, but get
him next time. I'm Jim like, that's not how it
goes in in L s U and in Georgia and
Alabama and those types of places. But what it does

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is Michigan is one of the biggest, biggest, one of
the biggest alumni bases and in the United States, all
this name image and likeness thing I think it puts.
It gives more big box schools a chance to participate
and at the highest level. And also, like you see
deals like b y U they that's amazing, you know that.
That to me is what really the name image and

(51:29):
likeness is gonna really truly benefit is is sponsorship deals
like that. But really, okay, so if you you're you're
high school, seen, you're playing football, you have an opportunity.
Let's go send me to Boise State or Brigham Young.
You know it's rough bigger. Brigham Young is a pretty
big good deal. With this n I L situation where
every incoming freshman is gonna be taken care of with
their with their payments. But you know, you gotta be

(51:50):
the religious deal, and you've gotta go away for a
year or two. And you know, I don't know if
a lot of people could do that at Brigham Young,
they's gotta be a special individual. Though Jim McMann did
it's because anybody could do it. Well, I mean, Taysom
Hill did it, like and and and he's the best
tight end to play quarterback ever apparently. Right. But anyway,
but like that, if you look at the NFL, there's
guys from all over the place. I think I still

(52:12):
think primarily unless you are you know, like the buddy
boy from Texas, the quarterback they went up to Ohio State, Right,
unless you're breast Bryce Crimes of the five star point
guards got offers from Kansas and Baylor before you're even
you know, taking your s A T S. Right, unless
you're that guy, I don't think holed sports is gonna
change that much for you. Like if you're if you're

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a guy like Duncan Robinson, for example, I think that
path still exists for you to become a professional athlete
and like go to school. I just think that the
n I L situation is gonna be another bone thorn
in the side of college coaches because the kids gonna
stay at the coach not only how many games are
gonna be on TV? Am I gonna start? And how

(52:55):
much money can I make an n i L. Although
that's an individual thing. You gotta do it on your own.
But I think these athlete at the problems have to
start gearing up and saying, look, we've got to use
this as as a boon to kind of recruit these
kids and help them out and maybe have a separate department.
They could have to have like a separate assistant athletic
director in charge of n I L. That's what they
could eventually do in all these colleges to have these

(53:15):
kids like guide them on how to get money through
their social media contexts. Because this is honestly, it's it's
it's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous in the idea. Imagine
if if you and working for Fox Sports Radio like us,
you know, okay, cool, We're gonna come here and work,
but we gotta tweet out the link to the show.
We get paid per tweet of link of the show,

(53:37):
Like like like what do we like? You're right, they
are going to have to have a whole another department
because they can't just run it through the payroll department
like they should. Because at the end of the day,
they're their employees of the school, right they work for
wherever they like, that's what they're doing. They're working for
the school in the way that we're working right now
for Fox Sports Radio. It's just so yeah, but it's

(54:00):
a mess of their own making because if they had
just said that, you know, okay, do you think that
there would have been some major problem. If they had
just said, okay, here's uh lumps on payments across the board,
everybody's getting the same amount if you play college sports.
I think people would have been fine with that. I
really truly do. But it's crazy because it's not even
legal in some states. It's not across the boards. Some

(54:20):
states haven't even approved. Again, it's got it's stupid. It
really is stupid because they did it, and they did it,
they rushed it through and they really don't have a
format well how to do it. That's the problem, and
it's gonna be a big mess. It really is. And
I think that's why maybe this is coach K's last year.
That's why he's leaving. You know, that's why these coaches
don't want to deal with it. I really believe that.
I think they would stay a lot longer, but they
don't want to. They don't want to be involved with this.

(54:40):
It's it's just one more headache that they have to
deal with. And I mean to be honest, I would
do I've shown this level of success. Now you guys
are changing the rules up, so I would. You know,
I know how to do it the way I know
how to do it. Y'all want to change the rules.
It's like Nick Saban was saying when he when he
lost to uh when they lost the Clems in the
national title game. His whole thing was, well, if you're

(55:01):
gonna let them block three or four yards down the field,
which essentially became the birth of the r PO in
college football. Right, if you're gonna let them block like this,
we're gonna play there like like you're They're changing the
rules of the game right here, and that's why we're losing.
Was the argument that he was making. And then he
decided I'm gonna play the same way. And then you
go get Wattle, Rugs and Judy and all the big
old offensive lineman. And there you go. Alabama's right back

(55:23):
on top. So if you can adapt to the new,
to the new situation, new stipulation coach k like Coach
Saban did, then maybe it is time to go. And
it's he and there's no shame in that right, there's
no right. I don't want to deal with. There we go.
He's Martin White. I'm Andy Ferman. Get him on Twitter
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(55:44):
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But right now has one quarterback found the home. Adam
Kaplan has the answer for you. Next he found the
loophole in the rules. That's coming right up. It's about
twenty one minutes past the hour. He is Martin Weiss.
I'm Andy Furman. We are together on Fox Sports Saturday
on Fox Sports Radio in for Jonas Knox and Bucky Brooks,
and we were scheduled to have Adam Kaplan in this

(56:27):
segment the Fox Sports Radio NFL insider, who's on Sirius XM.
He's a little hung up, and I shouldn't use that
term because he's not hung he's just a little detained
and he's we'll we'll catch him. We'll catch him a
little later on. So we'll worry about that that later on.
But you know, this is a very interesting story find
of amusing I found. Really we talked about the guy
j R. Smith. I gotta love what he's doing with

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former NBA star j R. Smith plans to do. He's
enrolling in North Carolina A and T, and he wants
to join the men's golf team. Now, his clock as
a collegiate athlete has not yet started because he went
to the NBA right after high school. But the school
now North Carolina ANT has to search now some seventeen
years back for his high school records. Good luck for that.

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Good luck for that. But I give him a lot
of credit to go back to school. Doesn't want to
pay because it doesn't have to look at a golf scholarship.
This is unbelievable. Really, I can't believe they can't just
like give him some type of test, like you know,
it's been differ jeopardy. No, I'm just saying, but I mean,
there's not some type of of high school equivalent test
that he could take to make sure that he has
the represent the prerequisite knowledge to attend college after twenty

(57:32):
years of idea of missing high school. Like, you know,
I figured Jr. Seems like he's done pretty well for
himself in the twenty years too. I feel like he
should be able to just we should be able to
figure this out and get him into school. Now, in
terms of the golf thing, I like the golf thing.
Normally I would be like, you know, kind of like
why are you taking up this spot from this kid?
But it's a relatively young golf program, and the idea

(57:56):
that j R. Smith plays for them is gonna be
easily the most wealthy person and on the team item
by far. But in the organization, right, you're probably in
the whole athletic department, probably in the whole school, right,
I think that's a gonna like Bode well for that
golf program over archically for North Carolina Anti. You know,
I'm not that excited about the golf problem. More excited

(58:16):
that he's going through a historical black college and university
because that's gonna healthy awareness and raised a level of
North Carolina Anti. I think that's wonderful. I really do.
And per the Anti Double A rules, and individuals should
not be eligible for inter collegiate athletics in the sport
if the individual ever competed on a professional team in
that sport, which he did not, but the laws did

(58:37):
not ban a former pro athlete from competing in a
different sport. Now, multiple collegiate athletes have played professional sports
before we turned to school to compete individual on athletics.
Remember Chris Winky was when he enrolled the Florida State
after six years of professional baseball. You know, yes, Because
when I was watching that, I was like, I was
a kid and I did not have the I did

(58:57):
not understand just how old twenty five was compared to
everybody else. I know, I knew he would played baseball,
but I don't know just I was like now, as
when I was in college, I sat back and thought
about it. I was like Chris No wonder, he was
so good. He was a grown man. You know, he
was a full adult, except in comparison to some of
these year old kids. There was no I'll cry about that.

(59:21):
He was twenty five in nine nine they won the
national title Florida State did He won the Heisman Trophy
when he was twenty eight years of age. Remember he's
playing against kids at eighteen and nineteen years of age.
You know, I think there's a disparity there. They talk about,
you know, you can't leave early to go to the
NFL like you can in basketball, because I think that
the physical difference of athletes from college in the sophomore

(59:42):
junior years to the NFL will be a major disadvantage.
So they're letting him do it. They gotta clean this up.
I mean, there's so many loopholes and so many rules,
and I don't think the NT double A has it
all together. And eventually, when they formed this alliance, which
they're plenty to do with the Pack twelve and the
big and everybody else, they're not gonna be an ant
double like. They won't need it. The college will do

(01:00:04):
it on their own. They don't need an ant double
like for enforcement, what do they need them for? I mean,
because like what do we really what is j R.
Smith waiting for the to say whether than he's eligible?
North Carolina an T wants him on the team. He
wants to be on the team, and this enz double
A is just just unnecessary hang up in the way
and and and you're right eventually, that's why I say

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this thing that what they need to focus on putting
the best television show they can put on in market.
And if that, if they do that, they'll all keep
their jobs. And we all like it, we all love it.
That's what we're here for, right. The ball is tipped
like you know what to saying. That's what we all want, right,
that's like give us and think about it. Last year,
when the pandemic canceled March Madness, it was out. You know,

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it was crushed. This year when it was back, it
was like, this is awesome. You know, even still with
no fan like limited fans in the stands. I didn't
even watch too many regular season games until but the
tournament itself, you had everything you wanted, all upsets, the
you know, the blue bloods that make it through are
not the blue bloods rather but the you know, the

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the great teams that made it through the teams you
want to see all year, Gonzaga and Baylor, the team,
the wagering, don't forget the wagering and the partying on
It's all part of it. So all of that right,
so that he used to focus on that in New
Year's Day and just let that be that. Let j R.
Smith go play golf. You know why because now people
are paying attention to the golf program at North Carolina,

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A and T and other HBCUs that they will be
playing other teams they would be competing against. Now, here's
what I understand. North Carolina came out with a statement.
They said that j. R. Smith is officially enrolled in
the school, but he's petitioned the NT double A to
be eligible to play. Now, is there a possibility I
doubt it, But it's a possibility that the NC double
said Nana, we don't want it to play because history
has shown us that athletes have already done that who

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have played professionally in a different sport. So I doubted
that they would say no. But again, why does the
NC double A have to give the stamp of approval?
Doesn't the president of North Carolina, A and T have
more safe. So who comes to his school and does
things in his school than the NT double A? You
would think so. And it's well, especially in this type
of scenario, right because this is not like it's not

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like it's not a former professional player coming back, like
it is a performer professional athlete, but it's not a
perform professional player. But like the the n C Double A,
as far as I can tell in the last fifteen
years in my life, just exists to take the fun
away from things. So like while I say while you say, like, yeah,
of course they shouldn't do of course it makes sense.
How many times have you seen the un double A

(01:02:31):
just you know, just do something completely head tracking, right,
Like it would be a complete shot in the foot
to itself. But it wouldn't shock me if they did
decided to just load up and pull the trigger. You know,
I'm clear you brought it up because I'm my head
is spinning right now. I'm trying to think, could you
name like one I'm not even gonna go through. Give
me one thing that the n C Double A has

(01:02:53):
done that you can say, Wow, that's that's not a
bad idea. Like we talked about Major League Baseball and
they had the Field of Dreams game. Hey, I get
in the Star. They tried. You know, the only time
you fail is when you do nothing in life. Really,
so Baseball try it and it was this success. It
was a big time deal. Everybody loved it. TV ratings
best in sixteen years. You know. I said early on
that maybe the timing was off, but so what, they

(01:03:13):
tried it and people loved it. What is the NC
double A done recently that that really you could say, wow,
that's that's a pretty good deal. Even the NHL they've
tried something. When they have that with the Classic and
they play outdoors, I think that's wonderful. But what is
the NC Double A done it? It was a few
years back now and it's probably a different time in
our country. But they did play on the aircraft carrier

(01:03:36):
Michigan State, I believe. But that that's that's something the
school does. Like sometimes No Dane goes to Ireland to play.
I remember they played the game in Wrigley Field, which
is wonderful, really was, But that's something that let it
direct this from the various schools they contracted to one
another and they do it. I don't think the double
is involved with that. Yes, yeah, I don't know. I
mean it just it pretty much just exists to be

(01:03:56):
the police. They can do is say no and and
suspend coaches. And they look they like the watchdog. I
get it. You know there's a watch though, But you
know what, the watchdog is only as good as the
people that snitch on them. Really, they don't have enough
investigators to go across the country to stop the cheating
that goes on in basketball. And look when they fired
the coach at Arizona, it took a long time, you know, really,

(01:04:17):
it took a long long time for him to get
the boot, it really did. So there aren't enough investigators
to do. It is the snitches and the schools that
basically recruit against other schools that turn them in. That's
what happens. That's how they find out. You ever seen
the movie They Departed, No in the movie, I think
I got the right one. That's the bank, the town,

(01:04:37):
the town, the town, the town, the town, the bank
robber movie, all in Boston, my fault. But John Hamm
goes into the bank and he says he's the first
ten minutes of the movie I'm not ruined anything, he says,
you know, big old hundred million dollars safe, only as
secure as the man with the code. Right, that's that's
that's what there's. If everybody's got the codes to the

(01:04:57):
n C double, if everybody's got the answers and the
the ways around, how to how to manipulate, and then
guess what if you're Will Wade or like an L.
S U. It was like, yeah, I'm just not gonna
step down deal with it, and then they can't do anything.
Guess what, You're just as good. That's safe, door wide open.
You're not protecting anything, right, you can just walk right
in and do whatever you want. So I just I

(01:05:18):
really just think it's really truly outdated, especially with you know,
you told about making a way with David Gascon, about
the Bears winning the division. You'd be safer to make
a bet that the ANT double A won't be around
in two years. I don't know too ten maybe, but
because I again, they still put on a hell of
a TV show in March. Well, but CBS doesn't really
I don't think the ANT double A does much. They
sell the rights and CBS buys the rights to it,

(01:05:40):
But I don't think that the ant double A basically
does it. I mean the production and everything else is
done by CBS. True, but those rights still like that
that you know, those right holders they they that that
makes that makes a difference in my opinion, like the
ability that they can still they can still use that
as a generation to generate enough money because that's I mean,
that's what keeps them going, honestly, the tournaments. But if

(01:06:01):
nobody has an answer as to what the ant double
A does, we'd love to hear from you. Really eight
seven seven ninety eight seven seven six sixty nine will
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Andy Firman. This is Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm gonna tell you not one, not two, but three
things that will kill college sports. That's next, But first,

(01:06:21):
my guy and yours, the one and only David Gascon
with the latest. I'm excited for this, Martin Wise ten
dollar bet, really excited for a ball. Look, man, hey,
I'm not I'm not you guys. I'm not here all
the time. I'm not making I'm not talking about you
are a prime time you were, you were a cross
cross intersection with FS one with Fox Sports Radio. You're

(01:06:41):
all over the place kidding the infielder. Though, Okay, I'm not.
I'm not. I'm not over here like shadow kid. I'm
just I'm not start I'm not in the starting nine.
You're up there, we're down here. We got it, dude,
Let's put this ten dollar bet on the line. When
I grow up, I want to be like you. Come
on Martin, all right, Gas, give me, give me, give me.

(01:07:02):
I'll do it for fifty one game, give even two games.
What do you mean two games? Why do you need
two games? Why do you do a parlay? Do another team?
You know what I'm saying, do an update? I don't know.
That was my counter offer. I don't. I don't know.
I don't got enohing all of that. So you took
Andy's advice. You don't have your own, all right? I
did literally five times when I said I was gonna
bet on the book, he actually did three times. Who's

(01:07:24):
what do you do when you do a parley that
the Bears win the division and the Cowboys will made
the playoffs? You can do that. I don't think the
cow I don't think the Cowboys gonna make the playoffs. Yeah,
will Well, you don't. Don't do it. Do the bet
until Dak Prescott change it up. Andy oh Man, Hey,
guys had two games right now at Denver, leading Minnesota

(01:07:45):
thirty three to six. Small games, all but over drew
lock because five is seven on the day, fifty one
yards to touchdown passes. One of them was an eight
yard bomb to kJ Hamler. Patrick's certain with a pick
six in this one. Uh, there's about eight minutes to
play in the fourth quarter. Earlier today, cargo disrupted Miami
twenty to thirteen. Justin Fields had a good day. One
touchdown pass, one touchdown rushing on all Bears get the

(01:08:07):
victory twenty to thirteen. Everything else is tonight. You get
the Saints and Ravens and about thirty minutes from now
Jaguars and Brown's. You got the Bangles and Bucks. Everyone tonight.
Major League baseball seems a little bit different. Philly six
one over the Reds on FS one. Boston fourteen two
over Baltimore fourteen four was the score. Parts beat the
Brewers in game one of a doubleheader. Mark, we still

(01:08:29):
got town. We got two and a half three weeks Gascon.
I want to know, real, do you know who's starting
for the Saints at quarterback. It'll be it's gonna be.
I think it's gonna be like a rotation, That's what
I think. I mean. I'm literally like today, in thirty minutes,
who's gonna be. No, I do not know. Okay, that
was just curious because I just they're gonna start Taysom

(01:08:50):
Hill this year, right, that's just gonna be my own
personal version of Hill. I hope it's Jameis Winston. I mean,
you got through the five thousand yards and thirty touchdown.
I know, I know, thirty interceptions, but who's counting for
as bad as he did? He did beat the Rams
in a while day here in Los Angeles, So I
don't know. Man, I'd love to see him back in

(01:09:10):
the center, but I don't know. It's the show for
AT's our ats, Sean Payne's show for now. So we'll
see back to you guys. We'll see you in now. Okay,
now we'll see as one quarterback found the home. We'll
go to Adam Kaplan, our guy Fox Bosts Radios NFL.
Inside was a serious xm Adam, how are you you
know what? Martin Wis and Andy Ferman. What's going on?

(01:09:31):
It's been a fun week. I've been at a bunch
of practices, saw the Bears in Justin Fields, and Thursday
hosted the Dolphins. And you saw how well the Fields
did today? Right? And the question I have after today's performance,
is there any doubt that Justin Fields is a starting
quarterback for the Bears or not? Well, he's gonna start
the season. But I can tell you that the Bears
have been steadfastest thing Dalts their starter at least week

(01:09:53):
one against the Rams. But you know in Chicago, after
they missed on Mitch Drobiski and they should have in
Patrick Mahomes, the fans are going to let Ryan Pat
forget about. They love fans. I could tell you absolutely
in love with Justin Fields, and it's gonna be hard.
But I will tell you also from talking to Bears
and Amy dald has actually had a pretty good camp.
He's done nothing to lose it. But the thing is

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Justin Fields has been really, really spectacular. So I have
you said, You've been around, seeing a whole bunch of practices.
Thirty minutes from now in the New Orleans Stays about
to start their first preseason game, who is going to
be the guy for the Who's going to be the
guy for them going forward after Drew Brees, you know,
obviously retired Michael Thomas is doing his deal. Who's the

(01:10:35):
guy that's gonna step in and take this team be
the quarterback of his team going forward. Well, I picked
Taysom Hill guys too at the start of training camp,
and he certainly had his moments. And Jamis Wintson's your
classic drop back passers, not the athlete that Taysom Hill is.
The reason why they wanted to give Taysom Hill chances.
They signed him away from Green Bay in late seen.

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They've developed him as a quarterback. They always felt he
would be the guy to replace Drew Brees. But the
thing about Jamis Winton is he was in their division
right They got to see him play. They knew he
had the talent. They just had to cut down the turnovers.
What I'm told is he's done a good job of
that for the most part. In trading camp, um, they
want to wait. They want to wait till at least

(01:11:17):
the two preseason, first two previous games, and they actually
might wait for three. But my senses they're going to
go wait and see what happens in the first two
and then you mentioned Michael Thomas. Look, he's not gonna
be ready until sometime after this regular season starts. They
decided not to put him on the the reserve physically
unable to perform lists, so they think he could come
back by the end of September. And if you can,

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that will certainly help him. Because they are not a
team that's very deep at receiver. They're actually gonna be
really hurting without him. I don't I gotta believe that
this is gonna be one of the biggest storylines in
the NFL this year. I'll talking about Matthew Stafford. This
is gonna be the year that Matthew Stafford has to
prove himself finally going to a team with a defense.
And they could say all they want, but he didn't
win in Detroit. Now I think he needs to win.

(01:12:00):
Spending time with him last Saturday when Dallas came in,
who actually the Rams visited Dallas and ox Nard Stafford
was phenomenal. In fact, they're doing so many things with
them that they were not doing with Jared Goff. Stafford's
a classic drop back passer for from different Artom Angles
or goff you had to manufacture the pocket move it
to help to free up space for him to throw.

(01:12:21):
Not so with Stafford. I'm gonna make a prediction forty
plus touchdown for Stafford this season with maybe the best
receiver corps the National Football League. Do you want to
make with David gascon on that? Really? Yeah, I'm telling
you man, gascon knows man, I'm telling you you watch.
Look at Stafford's gonna have an Eavy p type year.
You watch. So what do you make it? This is
because I'm going to the to the Battle of l

(01:12:42):
A today because I'll see the Charges in the Rams,
but i won't see Matt Stafford nor Justin Herbert. What
do you make of these guys not playing their number one?
What do you make a coach is not playing the
number one players in early preseason games, even for that
first couple of reps. Well the Rams, by the way,
the Rams historically done this um with their players. And
this is Sean McVeigh. I mean, before Todd Gurley had

(01:13:05):
the knee problems, they just would not play in the preseason.
And that just is just what they believe as the
front office of coaching staff. Why risk it and plus Um,
they've got two sets of combined uh these joint practices
last weekend, as I mentioned against Dallas, and I think
they've got another one. And this is, quite frankly, is
the way you do it. As one coach told me,
these are like mini games eas during practice because you

(01:13:26):
could work on red zone two minute, five minute, get
your backups and get your starters good reps. And that's
kind of the way the NFL is doing, with well
over twenty teams working with each other this summer. He's
Adam Kathleen Foxblust Radio's NFL Inside and Serious XM Radio
as well. I think many eyes are on two players
in the NFL this year see Quon Barkley and Joe Burrow.

(01:13:46):
How and poor and healthy returs for both of these
guys for their teams. Let's start with Barkley and Amazon
with the Giants on Monday, and look, they didn't work
him very much. They're going to limit him during training camp.
I don't don't. I don't know. They've been playing the preseason.
It's all about getting them ready for the early portion.
They're hopeful for week one. Um, he's able to test
the knee this week that's a good thing and they

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need him. Daniel Jones, the quarterback needs a running games.
Some quarterbacks don't to be successful, but he he needs one. Uh,
there's no question about it. Then Joe Burrow has had
it up and down training camp for one to understand.
But remember he's coming back from the devastating knee injury.
The good things for the Bengals is they've got a
great receiver corps. They've got a good running game. The
issue though, is their offensive line. They've not done an

(01:14:29):
adequate enough job of building it. Teams that went consistently
the National Football League. They're strongly offensive defensive lines. So
I'm curious because the San Francisco forty Niners have seemingly
had and this is kind of anecdotal, I don't know
off the top of my head, but they've had the
most success with the most different starting quarterbacks as Jimmy

(01:14:50):
g has been hurt. You since like they seem it
doesn't seem that Kyle shan has offense seems to be
less quarterback depending, I should say, then other offenses in
the NFL. There's still able to manufacture points. They're still
able to run the ball when they they're still able
to have relative success, not necessarily super Bowl level success.
But it seems to me that Jimmy g is has

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is his seat is pretty hot, especially trading up and
going to get Tray Lance with the third pick. How soon,
if if ever, are we going to see Trey Lance
this year? And is it pretty much just depending on
Jimmy's injury or his play. It's actually how the team does. Um,
they are not going to rush tray Lance. Just shocking
to personnel people. There was a lot to like about

(01:15:31):
Trey Lance. High character, big arm, pretty sharp kid in
pre draft testing. Um. But he played at lower level
of competition of college football. He didn't have a lot
of starts of college football. So the team thought that
he would be of all the first round quarterbacks, he
would be the guy that you would want to play
the least in the year one. But because he's done
such a good job of learning, uh, the the West

(01:15:51):
Coast system that Kyle Shanahan runs, and they have that
running game. As you said, remember it's it's his dad's offense,
it's Mike's offense, and Kyle's got his own version of it.
It always starts with the run game that always helps
a young quarterback. I'm gonna be interesting to see what
happens here because the Niners talking to them, they feel
so much better about the roster this eon and last
year as of right now because they're healthy and they
don't have the COVID issue that they had last year

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at this point. So if everything works out well and
they're healthy and they don't have a COVID issue, theoretically,
they're gonna be pushing for that division in the NFC West.
Adam Kaplan, he's getting a second life. I'm talking about
Sam Donald. What can we expect from Sam Donald this year?
In Carolina talk and he talking to the Panthers. They've
been relatively pleased with him so far. Um, what happens
is that he's learning a new offense. Um. They there.

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What they've done is they've kind of revamped their receiver
corps Terris Marshall, who's a really good draft back. I
believe out of LSU. They like a matt wide receiver
Christian McCaffrey. You unfortunately the majority of the season last year.
He's back and healthy. Their offensive line is a one
issue at left tackle. They don't know who their left
tackle is going to be. They're looking for one, which
is never a good thing for a right handed quarterback
that's a blind side protector. But Caroline looked, they feel

(01:16:59):
like they're better than last year, but they're still very
very young, and that's why they will not make the playoffs.
So what do you make of of the Vikings in
their quarterback situation with with Kirk Cousins requesting a bigger
quarterback room because you know, his his hesitancy of of
getting vaccinated, like you know, whether or not vaccinated or not.
That's I'm not trying to get into this whole big discussion,

(01:17:20):
but just like in terms of football, football realities, right,
how do you how are the Vikings moving forward? Act?
You know, with the idea that Kirk Cousins may not
be available uh for certain periods of time because of
COVID testing and protocols and so on and so forth. Look,
they don't have that the establishment veteran backup Cousins of
the unquestioned starter by contract structure there there his contract

(01:17:41):
is pretty much untradeable there. He's going to be the
starter the released next season and know that he's not vaccinated.
This is the issue now with every team, any any
key starter that's not vaccinated, We're not judging. That's his
own personal decision. I'm just talking reality here. You're always
taking that chance of that guy not being able to play,
and that's just the reality of it. And look, this
is this is the new reality of the National Football

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League for the players who aren't vaccinated. And and quite frankly,
talking to agents, the first thing they asked about your
free agent is is he vaccinated? And more often not.
If the players not vaccinated, they're not going to give
the more work out during the week. Let me ask
I likened like to this earlier in the show, but
it kind of reminds me of concussion protocol, right, because
when you get a concussion, you don't know exactly when

(01:18:24):
you'd be coming back, right, because it's all kind of
contingent upon when a player can start to do the
football activities and not be dizzy. And I have sensitivity light.
Except with this, it can happen any day. So you're
gonna get a concussion on Sunday or Monday or Thursday,
whenever you're playing a football game, right, Like, how often
are people you know thutting up like that during regular
season practices to where a starting quarterback, for example, or

(01:18:47):
starting wide receiver or running back or defensive back is
going to get a concussion and practice and be able
to miss and miss games. Typically it's happening during the season.
But like with this, with with the concussion, you kind
of had that weird that weird Is he gonna come
back Thursdays? Maybe it might be next Monday? Is that
kind of like the same? Is that similar? That is
similar now used to go as similar or no? Yeah,

(01:19:09):
there is a similar Like with concussions. There are no
concussion grades anymore, it's just a matter of how the
player feels day to day where you have to get
two negative tests within twenty four hours to get cleared. Um,
it's just look, it's it's unfortunately it's a new reality
and the National Football League, it's kind of what you're
dealing with and not knowing sometimes where the player is
going to be available on as you said, and I
think it's right. Sometimes coaches will talk about, hey, it's

(01:19:31):
kind of like an injury. You just hope that from
a day to day standpoint that the guy will be
to be available. He's Adam Cattleman and catling with a
C NFL inside of a Fox Boats radio. And let
me leave you with this because I want to be
the mediator here. There's been a wage you're going on
between David Gascon and my partner Martin Weiss, and the
bet was that Martin says that the Bears will win
the division. Should Gascon take this bet? Uh, there's They're not.

(01:19:56):
Bears aren't winning division. They'll be good. I think I've
got them down for nine or ten wins. But the Packers,
because Aaron Rodgers is back, they're winning that division. And
as long as he plays fifteen out of seventeen games
this season, they're they're gonna win that division. Dah, we
go give us your handle on Twitter so everybody could
reach the Adam. It's at Kaplan, NFL, cpl EN NFL.

(01:20:16):
Thank you for your time, as always, God bless you,
Thank you so much. Thanks guys. Alright, he's Martin Weiss,
I'm Andy Ferman. We're in for Jonas Knots and Bucket
Brooks on Fox Sports Saturday and Fox Sports. Ready, we're
gonna tell you three things that will kill college sports.
That's next. One school makes a big exception. That's right
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(01:20:37):
Ferman and we are in for Jonas Knox and Bucket
Brooks on Fox Sports Saturday. And of course July one
and historic data data will go down in history for
college athletics. Why that's the day college athletes it was
announced they could earn money off their name, image, and likeness,
and multiple states legalized the practice, and the game's biggest
stars have aligned with numerous brands since then, But there

(01:20:58):
hasn't been much of a market for known players except
for Brigham Young University. What a story this is, my friend.
They surprised every walk on after them the football roster
with an endorsement deal covering their scholarships. You don't think
that's a recruiting advantage, Oh my goodness, No, I mean
it absolutely is. I just think that you're gonna just
you'll see a lot of these. I feel like there's

(01:21:19):
there's a ton of people who care desperately about like
the University of Arkansas, or like who cared desperately about
this Boise State, like the different like you know, the
auto dealers and and Boise. I feel like I feel
like these will start to I don't think this this
is the first I think we'll see many of these
if they got a pony up. I tell I'm shocked
that Brigham Young was the first. I mean, any school

(01:21:41):
out there. I didn't think it'd be Brigham Young, that's fish.
I thought would be maybe Ohio State, Michigan money school,
a big time program that's very successful. I mean, Brigham
Young's have their success, but I'm talking about big time
maybe Alabama even really, but I'm shocked at its Brigham Young. Well,
you know the thing about b y U and those schools,
they got God on their side. You know, they they're real, real,

(01:22:02):
real push bond did they got real faith in No? Well,
I worked at a faith school, I worked at all
Roberts University. I don't see that stepping up, you know
what I mean. So you know you gotta expect the
miracle if that's school they almost did this year in basketball,
man or Robberts. Now, I love pick. I picked that
upset in the first round. I was that was the
most fun I had all we Weren't they great this year?
They really? I was pulling for him too. I was
hoping they do some damage. They did, you know, they

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were good, But I don't know what will happen again.
But they were good when I was there. They were
pretty powerful and basketball. By the way, we're gonna tell
you that the NFL is really they're no funny that
and more. We're right here on a Fox Sports Saturday
coming up next. They're cracking down. We'll tell you all
about it. And just about a minute. Yes, he is
the aforementioned Martin. Why saw Andy Firman and we are

(01:22:45):
in for Jonas Knocks and Bucky Brooks right here on
Fox Sports Saturday. By the way, my guy, how you
hanging everything? Okay, so far you're rolling along. I'm doing well.
I just got from this. I was in the seed
of position for the first two hours. Now I'm standing
I'm standing up. I'm ready to give it. I'm ready.
I like this er our power. Baby. There we go.

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Let's call, you know, talk about the NFL right now.
I can't believe that game. I can't believe the game.
That's just the Minnesota game. They're horrendous. I mean, Denver,
what they did to Minnesota today. I look, I understand
that these starters aren't playing, but Denver has nothing and
they that what a confidence building for the Denver Broncos.
I mean absolutely. And you said Denver has nothing. Denver

(01:23:27):
has some pretty good wide receivers, and their defense has
been you know, I say above average, just kind of anecdotely.
I don't know exactly where they've been ranking, but this
seemed to be above average in the a f C West,
in in the a f C rather, But to do
what they did today, none of that. No, like today
today feels like a complete failure out the Minnesota Vikings.

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I can't believe it. Really. I look this schedule right now.
To me, they could do some damage in the first
three games. They're playing the Giants, Jacksonville and the Jets.
In the first three games. You know what they did today,
there's a good chance they can win at least two
of those three. I think, So what do you just
what do you make it to Jaguars going like, what
do you make of Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence and

(01:24:09):
all this? What do you making of Jackie? You know what?
I think that Urban Meyer is gonna have a route
awakening because he's gonna lose at least seven, eight nine
games this year and he hasn't done that in three
or four years in college coaching. So you know, and
he left the college game because he said he was
getting sick. He couldn't get you know, he just got
to him. Really, he'll be up at night. He can't
do that. And the other day, didn't he come out
and say that Trevor Lawrence may not be starting, he's

(01:24:30):
out of his mind? But really he's not committal to
the media and asked who's the starting quarterback is? And
they're actually splitting reps in practice like Gardner Minshew and
Trevor Lawrence. And that's I just don't I'm with you.
I wonder. I wonder Mr Firman, if if if urban
Meyer really understands what's going on here. Not that he
knows football. I'm not trying to knock that, but professional football,

(01:24:54):
like the idea of this quarterback competition and nobody, Hey,
look I get it. He Why why you drafted his
the key? Why don't you drift? And you want to
play the guy before he rolls into his second contract
where the big money comes. That's what you want to do.
I mean, but he doesn't get Look, you're right, he
knows the game of football. And I will tell you this,
I'm gonna miss him on that college TV show on

(01:25:14):
Fox on Saturday. I think he did a wonderful job there,
and you know, maybe he'll be back in a year
or two, because I don't believe he's gonna have a
lot of success in Jackson. I hope he does. I
like urban you know, he's from the Midwest, and you
know I know him a little bit. But the point
is this, you gotta be able to adjust, and I
hope to goodness he could make the adjustment to the NFL.

(01:25:35):
You know, you don't have the power over these guys
like he did in the college game. He just don't.
I mean, and it just seems that this offseason he's
just made these uh he's being highed with that train
and so I'm saying this, it's kind of just weird steps.
It's like this, this, this, you know what it is
gives me the vibe that he's not used to being
questioned or being answered to, and like the idea that like, like, no,

(01:25:57):
we're just drafted this guy number one. He's our guy.
Like we're getting like we're working on things here, we're
gonna get Gardner ready to play, but Triver is our guy.
Like look what, like I just don't understand what the
who are you fooling Urban? What's the cat and mouse game? Like?
What where's the where's the back and forth? As they're
about to kick off and for their first game of

(01:26:18):
the preseason. He he's the deal. And maybe it's a
stretch here, but when he coached in Florida, you're dealing
with the Florida media, the college that you can bullyeve them,
you roll over them. They they're intimidated by you. He
coached at Bowling Green and Bowling Green, Ohio, the same
situation that he coached at Utah, he coached at Ohio State.
Whether the media basically a cheerleaders in Columbus, Ohio, So

(01:26:39):
it's a different animal in the NFL. They're not cheerleaders.
They're gonna pressure you, they're gonna put you up to
the wall. They really are. And I don't think he's
used to that. I think he's used to being the
man bullying media people and honestly having control over players,
which he probably won't have and the pro level, he's
gonna learn that and learn it rather quickly. And I mean,
I just I just don't know, but Tin Tebow on

(01:27:01):
this team, It's just there's so many different weird things
about just like, well, you know, derviont Maers, he's got
to figure it out, and I'm just like, I don't know,
I don't see what happens. You know, you know you
talk about the NFL right now. They announced earlier this
week the commitment to protecting players from unnecessary risk and
they can implement new rules to emphasize others for the

(01:27:22):
betterment of the game. No, they're not. They're doing this
for one reason and one reason only. If you have
a question and you don't know the answer, you could
always trace it back to the Green Cabbage guilt money.
It's all about money. They're afraid of being sued. That's
why they're doing these deals. Okay. Now, the top of
the list for this year discipline players for it's targeting
on opponents heads and taunting. Now, I said, as to

(01:27:43):
no fun League taunting, what's wrong with taunting? The officials
have been told there will be an automatic objection for
players who would cure to taunting penalties in a game. First,
for the safety and the head injuries. The league worried
about lawsuits, No big deal. Not for safety, worre about
lawsuits and for the taunting. I don't know, you. I
love the taunting. What's worse taunting? Well, baseball players hugging

(01:28:05):
want another behind the batting cage, which I think is nauseating.
I really do. It's a war. Let them taunt. I
love the taunting, I really do know. And the taunting
like I'm not I'm even gonna say within reason because
there's really been nothing that I've seen in the last
like I don't know, twenty years of my senient football
watching life and in YouTube back before that, that I've

(01:28:27):
seen that was like over the top, Like I get
that you don't necessarily want guys like it would have
been absolutely horrendous if arrellance has gotten you know, tackled
in the ankle when you had the sharp and soccer
or something like that. Like, right, So there's there's levels, right,
there's there's lines, and I think when you get to
the you know, the phone and the and the sharp. Okay,
that's a bit much, right, But as long as you

(01:28:47):
are within the realm of of natural football things happening, right, Like,
did you have to go run fifteen yards over here
to go do a dance or did you just kind
of get up and do your thing? I'm good with that.
I really am him. When Chad Johnson proposed to a
cheerleader on the sideline, I mean, that's it's entertainment. That's
what it is. Football is entertainment, and some people who
work in the game don't understand. I remember last year

(01:29:09):
in the Super Bowl that Tampa Bay safety Antoine Winfield Junior,
he had a peace sign into the face of Chief's
receiver Tyreek Hill. He was making fun of hills unusual
touchdown celebration, and Winfield was flagged for town thing. He
was fine, like, of the seven thousand dollars, it's crazy,
who cares? And I'm not gonna lie as as somebody
who had bet on the Chiefs during that during that

(01:29:32):
darn Super Bowl. So I was sitting there like, come on, Pat,
come on Pat. When I saw Antoine win When I
saw ante Antoine Winfield Junior picked that ball off, was
I upset? Absolutely? Then I saw him due to peace
sign of Tyreek Hill, and I was like, that's kind
of cool, but I really wish you had dropped the ball, bro.
But that's still like like all right, you just got yours.

(01:29:53):
I get it, like go off, Like that's when who cares?
I mean, it's entertainment. There's another when the Ravens they
were fled for to thing in their wild card playoff
Flint against the Titans, if the members of the defense
celebrated the fourth quarter of deception, if they were stamping
on the Titans logo. Remember that at the quarterback for
the Baltimore Ravens and Marcus Peters he was pulled into
the interception and he was flying fifteen grand, fifteen thousand dollars.

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For me, it's like the length of the thing? How
long are you doing this? Far? Are you? Are you
now holding up what's about to happen next? You know what?
Are you holding up traffic with it? With your little
dad's here? Because otherwise I don't necessarily see the problem.
And it's long, and the idea of sportsmanship and and
and and I don't understand. Okay, we'll say okay at
the end of the game for sportsmanship, and that the

(01:30:38):
whole point of that. It's just sportsmanship, like not playing dirty, right,
Like isn't that being a good sport? I just the
year exactly right. But look, I I get some of
the rules. Under the league's new plan, there's gonna be
no spiking no spinning the ball, no pointing the ball
or finger. I guess that pointing the finger right. The
one thing is salute. There's been no verbal taunt thing,

(01:30:59):
no stick ending or stepping over the opponent. I get that. Okay,
for too long that way provokes them. Okay. Gestures that
simulate handcuffs would be considered taunting, as outline in the
report that they gave out this week. It's I think
they're wasting their time and stuff. Now, remember last year
when the receiver on the Bags and they with Javon Wims,
he was ejected from a game. He later he was
suspended for punching the defensive back of the Saints, Johncy

(01:31:21):
Gardner Johnson, leading to a midfield scuffle the two teams
that they were fighting. It was broken up by the officials,
and Whim said that Gardner Johnson provoked the fight by
spitting on him and ripping out his mouthpiece. No one
in that incident was flat for taunting. And it's it's amazing.
I mean, you either taunting or not taunting. I don't
even think they know what taunting is well as you outline,

(01:31:43):
and I do will say this, if a guy's down
on the ground. I do have a problem with the
idea of stepping over because you'll know what's wrong with
that guy, right, there might be something like you know,
it might be a thing, right, you know, he might
you know, he this is a dangerous game that they're
out there playing, and you know we've seen that bad
things happen to people, right, so it's like, okay, let's
have a little respect in that moment. But like, I

(01:32:04):
don't know, I watched I watched football all day and night,
seven hours of commercial free football. Some of the most
fun that you see is a touchdown celebrations, and that
the baseball said when they flipped the bat after the
home run, that's not taunting. And when when a when
a picture is throwing at you at a hundred miles
an hour, that's not really taunting. I mean, what's more dangerous?
I don't get it. And baseball really and truly hasn't

(01:32:26):
done much about that. Well if you want to go,
because I guys, they got the unwritten rules. They're supposed
to legislate themselves. But like you, we have sixteen what's
most watched baseball game? Sixteen years? A Field of Dreams game? Right, tim,
there's the NFL ex Wait wait, there's an addendum to that.
You're right, the most watch game of sixties. However, the
NFL exhibition game outdrew that well of course, of course,

(01:32:48):
but nfls king. But the whole what I was saying
is Tim Anderson goes yard to end it, right, and
he's dancing down the first baseball. Yes, I mean, was
that not awesome? That's taunting, though I would think I'm
I enjoyed it. I think it's fun. And he's expressing,
he's happy, he's kind of emotion, show some emotion. I
love that, But I guess that's taunting in the minds

(01:33:08):
of some. And I tell you, like, for me, my
love affair with sports goes back to when I was
a kid, right, watching sports with my dad and and
just I remember the celebrations. I remember Joe Horrne, I
remember this sharp and I remember t O running all
the way down to the star. And I get that
that's a little bit much, right, But like, what are
kids gonna be falling in love within the game? Is
it the big hits? Because we've legislated a lot of

(01:33:30):
those out of the game for a good reason. Okay,
when Mayfield was quarterback in Oklahoma and maybe the Ohio State.
He was stepping on the Ohio state logo in the
middle of field and the flag, and you know, I
love people were dared by him. People loved it. I
don't understand why. It's the biggest problem. Like to me,
this whole idea is is I don't understand, like, who's

(01:33:51):
who's it for? Who who benefits from the rule. You're
exactly right. I'll tell you what. I'm gonna show you
how far back I go. Because I was a kid.
I used to love the New York Football Giants. I
remember del shot No Tittle when they played their games
in Old Yankee Stadium in the Bronx, and there was
a receiver there and I don't think anybody remember the
guy won ut. I'll remember to the to the dad

(01:34:12):
die Homer Jones. Homa Jones is the receiver, and every
time he had a touchdown, he throwed the ball on
the ends and just banging on the floor, just throw
it down. And we played too in touch in the
streets of Brooklyn, you know, and every time we score
a touchdown, we we emulate Homer Jones and throw the
ball down the ground. That's what we did. It was wonderful.
I don't think it hurt anybody. I mean, how many
Gronk spikes do you think happened in the state of

(01:34:34):
Florida in the last calendar month? You know, I don't
think about it. What are we doing here? It's like
the idea baseball and baseball and like is you have
to what you have to realize is now in today's
day and age, especially younger kids, they may not watch
the whole game. They might not see the whole thing.
A lot of the reason why baseball is hurting because
you can't get their clips on social media. You can't

(01:34:54):
see what happened unless you're watching the game. Well, what
draws so much attention? Odell Beckham proposed to the kicking net, right,
just Johnson proposing to the cheerleader. Or you know there's
all the different dances and you know what what what
what is Stefon dig is gonna do this week when
he gets into the end zone? Right? You know they
got a opera. There's an NFL dance, The Gritty who

(01:35:16):
started and started somebody in Louisiana made and Justin Jefferson
took it and made it popular with the vikings. It's
not on the most popul one of the most popular
video games out there, Fortnite, right, So what like, all
of that is cross promotion, all of that is cross branding.
So the NFL was just like, you know what, Actually,
I don't like that very much. It doesn't make any
sense for kids to like our game. Fun you know,

(01:35:38):
it's funny. You talked about the Field of Dreams we
mentioned early on today and the ratings best in sixteen years.
We're here almost three hours talking sports. We didn't talk
boo about baseball except the Field of Dreams game. It's
it's a shame. We're in the heat of Pennant racist
right now. How do they anybody cares? It's all about
they'd rather watch preseason football than watch a regular in

(01:36:00):
season baseball game. Why. There's probably a myriad of reasons.
I don't know. I'm not going down that road, but
the facts are there. They'd rather watch in a preseason
football than in season baseball. And there's a lot of reasons.
And again I'm not wasting anybody's time, well my breath
to tell you the reasons why. I mean, it's there's
an undeniable fact. But feel the dreams. That was the thing, right,

(01:36:20):
that was a novelty. Anything that any time you can
make because because don't get you, I'll be locked in
for baseball playoffs. Be locked in. It's locked in for
like the last three the last month of the season
where you're seeing all the jockeying and you see what really,
you know what everybody did all regular season to get
to this moment. Anytime you can make those regular season
games more important. Okay, you know why NFL is king.

(01:36:43):
There's every game is important, every game matters. It's leaving
at seventeen games. Don't expand it anymore. And I'll tell
you what if baseball was really smart, hey, feel the
jeams is great, I'll give you a check mark on that.
What you should do. It's a hundred sixty two making
into two eight one game seasons, so teams that the
Pits Birth Pirates are in sixty five games out of
first place in the month of August. Really, and that's

(01:37:05):
what they should do to eighty one game seasons, two champions,
one after the first eighty one and the second one.
So or at least the teams in various cities like
Pittsburgh like maybe, uh whatever, in Texas. Whatever you want, Denver,
these these teams could have a fighting chance and they
won't be like thirty games out of first place come September.

(01:37:26):
I agree. I like that, and you know, also to
I would limit some of the inter league play because
it fosters more rivalries and fosters more familiarity. I think
there's something special about the idea that you're gonna see
the NFC East play each other every year. For for know,
you got those two locked in every year. You're exactly right.
He's Martin Weisa'm Andy Ferman. We are Fox Sports Saturday

(01:37:46):
and Foxbots Radio. Got Bruce Kratkowski, the former NFL quarterback.
He's a Pro Football focus. He's coming up in about
five minutes from now, and then we have at the
bottom of the hour, David gascon is in the gutter
where he belongs. Will have that as well, But you
can get us on Twitter at Martin Weiss, at Andy
firm An FSR or eight seven seven ninety Fox eight

(01:38:07):
seven seven nine six six three six nine. Now, how
will they ever get in shape? Well, Bruce Gradkowski has
the answer for you. Next. Bruce Gradkowski coming right up.
He is Martin wissam Andy Fermat Together we are Fox
Sports Saturday in lieu of Jonas Knox and Buckie Brooks.
But right now, let's go to that celebrity hotline because

(01:38:29):
he certainly is one, the one and only. Bruce Gradkowski,
Pro Football Focus and former NFL quarterback Bruce. I had
the letter already to roll to Indianapolis, and you're backed
out to be the backup QB for the cults. What's
going on? I just couldn't let my high school kids down.
You know, I just took a high school head coaches job. Uh,

(01:38:51):
you know, I'm Frank Wright might have just rolled his
eyes at the letter, and I was like, look, I
got I gotta commit to these kids and see what
we got in front of us, even though we got
our butts loooked in our scriments the other night. Uh,
the first first real game is is next Friday, so
I'm moving forward to it. Good luck, Thank you, Bruce,
Good luck buddy. And you were just saying that, you know,

(01:39:13):
you took the coaching the team. You got your butt
kicked in your first scrimmage. It's now down to three
preseason games for the NFL, and you got guys like
like Braindon's Daly and showan move not playing their starters
in the preseason to begin with, is there enough time
and with three games and training kept to be ready
to do you need the preseason to play and be

(01:39:34):
ready for the regular season, you know. I think the
preseason helps tremendously for young guys, for the guys that
just got drafted, undrafted free agents, guys trying to make
the team. I think sometimes when you're talking about the
veterans or your secure starters you know you have. I
don't think it matters as much because at the end
of the day, coaches want to get to the season healthy. Uh.

(01:39:57):
It's a long year ahead of them, and you get
a ton of practice time during training camp and that's
when it gets done. Honestly, even even with these guys
compete to make a roster spot. Now you win that
through training camp and then the icing on the top is, uh,
you know, a preseason game when you do well. So
I mean, look, I think it's important because preseason really

(01:40:18):
helped me throughout my career, uh and being able to
supplant myself, cement myself on a roster. But I think
when we're talking about veterans and guys that are the starters.
I think it's more important for coaches to get to
the season, and some guys view it the other ways.
Some guys want their guys getting reps to get used

(01:40:39):
to game accent. But at the end of the day,
everyone has their own ways to go about it. But
I think it's plenty of preseason to get ready. And
I'm excited to watch some of these guys this year,
and there was cool watching justin Field earlier. Bruce Kratkosk,
I glad you mentioned preseason. I'm gonna make the transition.
I talked about it earlier. In boxing, you need a
spa with a partner. In football, I don't see the

(01:41:01):
same preparation do You used to have two of days
now one of day practice, no pads now down the
three preseason games, I don't think it's enough. I think
you've got to go out there and get the field
at the confidence And as I say, like tonight, the
Bengals are playing Tampa Bay and the Bengal steps said
Joe Burrow is not gonna play. Why didn't even make
the trip? Really well, I mean, for what Joe Burrow

(01:41:21):
has been through, you know, definitely you want him healthy,
uh to enter the season, and he's still working back
from his you know, his knee and so forth like that. Look, Eddie,
you're right, I mean pre season. It's changed dramatically from
when I was playing from even before that. Um, you know,
it's kind of like camp cup cupcake now. But at

(01:41:42):
the end of the day, I do think you could
still get some really good work done. You don't need
to hit every day. It's been very demanding on you know,
guys bodies over the years, and you know, I think
they're just trying to help him, you know, and secure
him for a long season and you know, we'll see
where it goes. This This seasons would be interesting because
you know, if Matthew Stafford sits out on preseason and

(01:42:05):
plays pretty well and gets into the groove early, then
at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter
that he played or not in the preseason. And speaking
of Stafford, his head coach, right, Sean McVeigh, one coach
of the Year, and it does the last UM through
four coach of years, three of them in first year
head coaches. Right, So you got this year, you Irban

(01:42:26):
mar you got Dan Campbelly got a couple other guys, Bruce,
is there is there a first year head coach that
you're looking at and it's like things, is there a
first year coach you got your eye on? You know,
I am always excited to see how new coaches kind
of build build their clubs and how teams respawn. You know,

(01:42:46):
I was looking forward to watching Arthur Smith. I am
looking forward to you know. I thought Atlanta looked a
little shaky yesterday as far as from the quarterback perspective,
I thought their qbs were kind of lost first cover
zero blitz and I know you don't usually see that
in the opening preseason game, but they look like they
weren't prepared for that or how to handle cover zero.

(01:43:08):
They look lost the time, and I expect more from
offering for this week one, and you will see a
lot of improvement from there. You know. Dan Campbell and Detroit,
I'm looking forward to see how that works. I think
he's got his hands full of the sense. I want
to see Jared Goff and how that works and how
that change going from l A to Detroit works. A
lot of cool things to watch to keep an eye on,

(01:43:30):
you know, and I'm especially excited to see some of
these quarterback battles and these young rookies getting opportunities during
the preseason. We saw justin fields played pretty well today
and stuff you know you can get better at as well.
But I think that's encouraging for organizations when they draft
the young quarterback and they see him performing well early on.

(01:43:50):
He's Bruce Krotkowski, former NFL quarterback now with pro football
focus and as a quarterback, is it better to sit
out the first year or a guy like Matt Jones
is at they if it had to be thrown to
the wolves of the Patriots. I'll tell you what, Matt
Jones look good the other day. He looked poised, confident, comfortable.
He was executing the offense, playing decisive, you know, going

(01:44:12):
through his reads. If they don't impressed me the most,
he was getting his checkdowns pretty quick. I mean he
was going through his reads, putting the ball in the
right spot. And that was good to see. And I
think that's something that's gonna go a long way for
Belichick and Josh McDaniels. They want a guy that can
execute that offense, a guy they had similar you know
for all those years, that want him. A bunch of

(01:44:33):
Super Bowls. You know, I'm not saying Mac Jones could
be that guy, but man, it was. It was pretty
impressive how he stepped on the stage and handled, you know,
his first action in the game. And look, I think
if he's ready to go, if he knows the offense,
he's gotta play sooner rather than later. But at the
same time, too, when you look at a guy like
Justice Fields behind Andy Dalton, Trey Land and Jimmy g

(01:44:55):
competing it out, if those starters can play well, I
think could help the young guys to be able to
city year. But at the end of the day, I
think it's it's how far along are they knowing the offense,
know what they're supposed to do, because they all have
the ability to do it. On Sundays, we got we
got two guys coming back this year from from serious

(01:45:16):
knee injuries, with Joe Burrow and say Kwon Barkley. And
I'm curious, I'm curious who do you think has the
bigger challenge coming back? Is your Burrow behind the offensive
line or is your Barkley with with with with the
Giants limitations that they got going. You know, I think
I think they both have big challenges. I would say
state Kwon Barkley just because of the position he plays.

(01:45:39):
You know, hopefully Joe Burrow can stay healthy. Um in
that offensive line could protect him. But say Kwon Barkley,
you're demanding a lot more on your body, on your legs,
on your knee playing the running back position. You're gonna
take a lot more hits in in the contact and
the legs. Then Joe Burrow will this season. So I mean,
I'm excited for both of them. You know, they're young superstars.

(01:46:02):
I hope that they both stay healthy and play well.
Let me look at that giant football team, man, I
mean they've done a really good job this off season
building that football team. I think they got a pretty
tough defense. Daniel Jones, I expect him to have a
good year being back in the same system. So putting
it all together and say Kwan Barkley's back and healthy,
I think you can expect a solid year from them.

(01:46:25):
All right, let me leave you this, how's the restaurant
business going, brother, it's good man. Crush some food last
night at it and then I said, bloody, uh margarina,
and it was good. It was good. You know, some
salmon tacos and tonight is just gonna get a chicken South.
I'm gonna take it easier tonight. I'll be up there.

(01:46:45):
I'll be up there soon. But I'm not gonna let
you know because i don't want any special favors, you
know what I mean. I just and then I'll review
with me. I'll review it on the radio. All right.
Thanks today, Give us your your Twitter handles. Everybody can
follow you. Bruce, Yeah, b Gradkowski five and be grad
zero five on Instagram. Appreciate you guys. Have a good weekend,

(01:47:05):
you too, thanks to Bruce Gradkowski, Pro Football Focus and
former NFL quarterback Keys Martin Wise on Andy Fremanworth and
Knox and Brooks right here on Fox Sports Saturday. But
we call him the gas man and he's in the gunner.
That's next. But first for the latest guys, preseason football
and continuing tonight, Cleveland Jacksonville clipping with the advantage right

(01:47:28):
now at three nothing. Trevor Lawrence did play the opening series.
We'll see if he comes back for round number two.
Saints and Ravens. There's no scourge gist yet. Earlier today,
Denver and Minnesota lock with a play fakes that's deep
in the pocket, loads it up home run ball middle
of the field. He's got an open receiver there. This
is J. J. Hamler Handler inside the ten the five
with a somersault into the end zone. Touchdown Denver And

(01:47:51):
that is an eight yard touchdown pass from Lock to
Handler and the Broncos lead at eight nothing man they
beat him down thirty three or six lockhead to to
Shawn passes in this game Bears and Dolphins. Fields hangs
in there, starts the clothes, he leaves the pocket, he
checks up to the ten to the five, bows into
the ends over the touchdown touchdown. Bear put it on

(01:48:13):
the board, baby justin Fields and eight yard touchdown run
and they're on their feet at Soldier Field nine, Miami. Yeah,
Fields and company get the victory and that of fair
come from behind Twe of the thirteen fields had two
touchdowns in that game, one through there and obviously the
one on the ground. Major League Baseball seam braves for
one in d C copies one nothing over the Marlins

(01:48:34):
and Detroit three Cleveland once in the home half of
the first inning. Guys, back to you, all right, I'll
tell you what. Don't go anywhere because It's almost time
for you to be in the gutter. You know that. Sure,
you're ready, You're ready for that, always ready. All right,
he's Martin Wissam, Andy Ferman. We're in for our guy,
Jonas Knox and Bucky Brooks right here on Fox Sports Saturday.
And uh, we got the gas man coming up there

(01:48:56):
because he's gonna be in the gutter. And let's hit it.
Let's find that worries. He only fights the best stories.
Flash it's in the gutter with David Gagan. We're laughing
about fur ball. Sorry, just go out to since it
ain't kick your ass. Oh boy, here we go. What's

(01:49:18):
that man? You've got those beer muscles? Now? Are you
getting a little tough? I've been tough for a little while,
all right, you gotta be tough to work here, right.
I've never known Gas to be a slim fellow. It's all.
It's rock Chuck Jayhawk over by the way, before we
get you into the gutter. Right now, you heard what
Adam Caplan said. It with the bet you the Bears
are not gonna win a division, according to Adam Kaplan,

(01:49:40):
So I say the bets off right with you and Martin? Yeah,
I mean, Martin sounds like he's got scared money. So
it's all good. Yeah, it's all good. We'll go somewhere
else we can. We can go to the can go
to the NFC East, we go to the NFC South,
NFC West. We go somewhere else. We got time, buddy,
We've got time. We'll stare these air waves again. Don't worry.
I'm not worried about it. It's all good. We'll get

(01:50:02):
a little loose with you guys for right now. As
far as the heart of sports talk, how about this.
In India, a pathologist at a hospital had to do
a little something something with a seven year old boy.
He had He had some headaches and he had a
problem with his mouth. Parents took him to the hospital
and they were worried about him because he was complaining

(01:50:24):
about problems with his mouth and they thought it was cancer. Uh.
Dentists decided to go into his mouth and see what happened.
They pulled out a large mass which looked like the
size of a bag. They removed not one, not two,
but guys five hundred and twenty six tooth like structures
from his mouth. My yeah, So surgeons pulled the two

(01:50:49):
grand lesion out of his mouth, and it took him
five hours to crack open the bag to find the
teeth that were in there. Uh. Pathologists actually called it
reminiscent of pearls and an oyster. The big question there
is not how how that happened. The big question there
is does insurance cover that? Could you? Yeah? Could you imagine? Really?

(01:51:11):
How do you hand that it too? An insurance guy? Well,
here's the question though. If the insurance won't cover it,
and you're the kid, right, maybe you sell those teeth.
Is there a big market for teeth something somewhere? There's
always a market for someone who doesn't have teeth. There
is a big market exactly if you got fired well

(01:51:32):
the National Hockey League if those guys don't have teeth. Guys.
Social media is always fun when you get some fascinating
things that you see online. Um, did you see you
have c is Jordan Williamson the other day? Okay. The
reason why I bring that up is is Williams actually

(01:51:52):
was he wouldn't viral, and uh, he wouldn't viral because
of a good cause. He was actually getting some gas
um at the gas station. Someone decided to try to
car jack him Uh. It was caught on video. Williams
is a UFC fighter. He decided to take some heavy
shots to this car jacker and use his entire repertoire

(01:52:14):
on him knee strikes. Uh, you know, thirty years of
age in the prime of his career. Manda said to
do something dirty at a convenience store and decided to
rob the wrong car owner and got stories. Right. Yeah,
I love that. Really, you know, I'd like to get
some sort of I wonder what he was wearing it.

(01:52:34):
Could you have like a UFC jacket? So maybe if
I would wear one, no one would attack me because
I think that I'm a UFC guy product placement, right.
I try to walk a pretty narrow line. But that's
one of my biggest fears is getting getting nose to
nose with somebody. And now I'm like, what am I
supposed to do? This guy's a UFC fighter And you

(01:52:54):
don't know that when you're entering into this situation, but
you probably probably find out very quickly. I'll tell you
a funny story. Years ago, someone gave me an FBI
windbreaker blewe wood yellow letters in the back. I'm fair
to wear it. I'm afraid someone's gonna shoot me. Really,
I have it in my classe. I'm never gonna wear
it again. I used to wear it years ago. I'm
afraid to wear that thing now, guys. UM, curious case

(01:53:20):
of a missing individual has been solved. Uh. There was
a mass search for a seventy two year old woman
that was missing for quite a bit. She's been found
um in her daughter's house in Lincoln. According to the
Washington County Sheriff's Office, the sevent two year old woman,
a mummified now body, Gloria Pike, was found just a

(01:53:43):
few days ago. Uh. Gloria was actually diagnosed with stage
four breast cancer. Had not been heard of it over
a year. Her brother, the girl's brother, reported missing her
mother missing, and according to police, Gloria's fifty year old
fifty four year old ground daughter told them her mother
was missing but was at a friend's house. Um. Police

(01:54:04):
decided to do a search and all of a sudden
found the mother at the daughter's house living there for
a second. This is amazing. Tom Brady is playing tonight.
He's on the center right now in the first series
against Cincinnati. All these other quarterbacks are not playing. This
guy played last year with a torn a c and
won the Super Bowl. All Right, I rest my case.

(01:54:26):
You gotta play, all right, you gotta play. And these
guys don't play. It's amazing, I laughed. Guys like gonna
be seventy five years old still playing in the NFL.
Say the other guy, other quarterbacks, he was drafted. It
might be the father, he's their father. Really amazing? What say?
Get it out? Can't say no, no, it's not usually

(01:54:48):
in the segment, don't say, guys. One is clearly similar
to obviously a few different reasons. How about this, um?
The Washington State Department Agriculture has sent out a new
warning murder hornets. I've been setted yet again? Do you
hear about that? Next? What would they think of? And
the murder hornets? I have actually heard of the murder hornets.

(01:55:10):
I saw that last year and I was like, you
know what, really, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. I'm
not going I'm not going outside. Now, what's next? Poison beatles?
Really they'll they'll make up something. Really. I mean remember
a couple of years ago, everything was sharks. That was
the big deal with what they went away. They still
shocks out there, but every couple of years they run
it back. You know, everybody was afraid to go vacationing

(01:55:30):
in South Carolina at Myrtle Beach, goes to the sharks Helly.
You don't hear any shocks stories anymore, right, I know. Yeah,
it's a fortunate that we Uh, it's one thing after
another after another after another. So yes, murder hornets from
last year, I have returned here in one so beyond
high alert of course. You know, if the murder hornets
done you last year, are you uh you know, can

(01:55:52):
you catch it this year too? Do you know? What?
Do you got antibodies from any I have to take
a vaccination for it? Yeah, I don't know. I don't
have the CDC is reporting. I'm waiting for the Johnson
and Johnson one oh boy driving for a ball kept
it relatively clean. So guys, that is it for now.
You know, you say critically, you could say anything once
on the radio one time you once you get seconds

(01:56:14):
to say as much as you can say it wants
it would be the less time you say it. But
you can say I don't really want walking papers right now.
I don't want to know. I'll miss you. I would
that might be the only one that will, but I
might probably mighty. Do you have any more? I mean,
is it over? No? No, it's it's over. It's over.
For the show's over. No one, no, your your show
is over. Well we're gonna move on. Thank you, thank you,

(01:56:35):
thank you for your for your time. Really, Martin White,
is Andy Fermative for Bucky Brooks and Jordas Knocks right
here on Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radier. Guess what,
there's a major outrage yes, in the world of sports.
Wait till you hear this. It's next watching the lead
athletes all clucking. That's coming right up. He is Martin Wyas.
I'm Andy fermant In for Jonas Knocks and Buckey Brooks.

(01:56:57):
About thirteen minutes now before the top of the air
and by away at the top of the hour, which
would be eight o'clock on the East coast. My good
friend Brian No. I'll be with Brian No six am
tomorrow morning on Fox Sports Radio. Brian No and e
from Salam will join you. You can hear them on
the I Heart Radio app, on Sirius xm AD three
and of course on many of these same Fox Sports
Radio affiliates, and before we roll on, it is time

(01:57:19):
to say thank you. Thank you my new partner, Martin Weiss,
a wonderful job today. I love being with you, and
thank you. Lead to lap our producer Bobo of course
and David Gascon with the updates. So thank you again.
It was wonderful. I enjoyed it. It was my pleasure.
It is my pleasure. And just just just I just
saw this down the timeline and I have to say
this because you've been harping this all day. Jeff Schwartz,

(01:57:39):
friend of the show and friend of Fox Sports Radio,
obviously just tweeted the last three Super Bowl winning coaches
are playing their starters and game one of the preseason.
So thank you. Feel that vindication right there, my friend,
and Jeff, if you're listening, shalong. Thank you so very much.
I got a story here which gonna it's gonna kind
of shake things up a little bit. I'm gonna talk
about you, lady. But the name of Lucy Marie Kirchmar

(01:58:02):
a beach handball player for Germany. She was competing in
a tournament in Romania. She noticed the front row spectative
filming intently with his phone. All right, when she was
off the court, she saw that he was zooming in
on the bodies of the female players, who were clad
in small bikini bottoms as the sports federation requires. She
then saw him at two other games recording the players again.

(01:58:24):
The twenty nineteen tournament left the question for her and
her teammates or the spectator there to watch them play
as a lead athletes or to galok at their bodies
now and then. Organizers eventually asked the man to leave,
but the team's question persisted, along with other concerns about
sexism and double standards affecting female athletes at every level
of competition and across sports like gymnastics, badminton, in tennis,

(01:58:47):
and On Wednesday this week, following international outrage over the issue,
Hassan Mustafa, the president of the International Handball Federation, said
new rules are very likely to be established and I
think it's really big ulus for women to have to
wear bikinis to play handball, I mean absolutely, And the
idea athletes are there to entertain, right Like, that's the

(01:59:09):
reason why you know, these athletes are high highly paid
because some of the best shows that you can put
on TV, some of the best live shows you can
see or a game or a match or something like that.
But the idea behind it is it's what they're doing,
not what they're wearing. Right you go, you go to
a fashion show to see what people are wearing and
be entertained by that. The International Handball Federation, get this,

(01:59:30):
requires that women wear bikini bottoms quote, with a close
fit and cut on an upward angle toward the top
of the leg. Are you kidding me? The sides of
the bikini bottoms must be no more than four inches. Men,
on the other hand, can wear shorts as long as
four inches above their knees, as long as they're not
too baggy. This is nuts. I mean, come on, this
is the twenty one century, and really and truly I

(01:59:52):
have a question also with the girls that are playing
beach volleyball. Why bikinis? I would assume if you wear shorts,
you know, the sand could get inside the shorts could
be offesome. But there's gotta be with those biker shorts.
Biker shorts to be fine, I would think, I mean,
I imagine, so, I don't know. I'm not a beast
volleyball player. I've I've never I'm not even a regular
volleyball player the most beach you know games, I players

(02:00:13):
like a little couple of drunk beach football. But the
idea behind what you're wearing when you're participating in the
athletic competition. There's the reason why football players are wearing
jerseys that covered their pads and basketball players are wearing
think tops. It's it's the it's the uniform that matches
and and and gives you the best opportunity to succeed
at your sport. Right, and so I can't imagine that.

(02:00:34):
I can't imagine there's some incredible difference rather in between
bike shorts and a bikini bottom outside of the exposed time.
But what about this lunatic this there with his cell
phone taking pictures of the girls wearing their bikinis as
they're playing handbull, and he's following them around. There's something
when you've got perfects all over the place. Has no
doubt about that. But the International Handbull Federation, which is

(02:00:55):
based in Switzerland, they said it could not make any
changes until it's Internet still conference in November. I mean,
how hard is it to make it? This is like
the NT double again, right, I mean all you could
do is say no I mean, I don't know who
came up with the side there they got to wear
a bikini. I mean that that's the most When the
first time I saw that, I was scratching my head,
said why are they doing this? And I watched the

(02:01:16):
beach volleyball during the Olympics. I didn't see the handball.
I don't even know if the handle was on TV.
I guess it was, but I didn't seen any handle
on TV. But I did see beach volleyball, and I
questioned that if because really and truly, I think it's
somewhat degrading. And I don't mean to sound like a prude,
I really don't, but I think it's degrading for a
woman to have to wear that. I mean, they were
the same thing in the Miss America contest. Yeah, well,
I mean the thing, at the end of the day,

(02:01:38):
you're organizing body and the people around the sport have
to be keeping the athletes safe. And that is that
right there is prime example of not keeping the athletes safe,
regardless of the uniform. And I think the uniform obviously
plays a part, but regardless they if they were wearing
parkers and sweatpants and this guy is following them around.
That's just still creepy, right, Like the at the end
of the day, they the people were putting on these

(02:02:00):
organisms that the people are putting on these events the
number one priority other players, that they're the entertainment, they're
the draw, they're the reason why we're all here. If
you're not keeping them safe and putting them in environment
where they feel comfortable and they're able to perform, then
this whole thing is for not right. So the idea
you can't change the rules to protect your players makes
I mean literally physically protect your players, not from one another,

(02:02:21):
but from the outside. That that's that's that's backwards. Yeah.
The one thing that I'm shocked about is the fact
that they've come up with this outrage and it's kind
of backlash now if they're all these years, I mean,
they've been wearing the bikinis for a while, with the
beach volleyball on the handball, But why now, I mean,
I guess, you know, hey, it's times, the times they
are changing, right, and they should and they should. You know,

(02:02:42):
I hate these old egency wild back in the used
to be, you know what the hell went back in
the day. Sometimes it's important to change and change is good.
Not old changes good. But most of the time change
is good and changes for the better. It really is
all over, not just in sports. I mean, think about it.
If not to change today, you and I wouldn't have
talked together on his lovely radio show for the last
three hours. I never thought about that. Really it was great,

(02:03:05):
it really was. I enjoyed it. Really. I mean, any
any final parting shots you'd like to let out. I
just don't think it's nuts to think the Packers might
have a fall this year. I don't think it's insane. Matt.
I get Matt Lafleur has never lost, like, He's only
lost like seven regular season games, So either he's Vince
Lombardi or there might be a little aggression there. I
don't think it's crazy. Here we go. I'll tell you what.

(02:03:26):
I wish you could do it again, and we probably
will one day. Our time is up. We want to
thank everybody for their stay tuned to my guy, Brian
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