August 21, 2021 • 47 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress react to the unusual situation in Philadelphia, after Jalen Hurts was a late scratch for the Eagles preseason game, going to the hospital moments after dancing on the field in warmups. The guys debate whether or not the Eagles can build their franchise with Hurts at the helm. Jordan Love is also battling injuries, and the guys explain what this means for the Packers and Aaron Rodgers approaching the season.
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Bowl champion Plaxico Burres. Alright, alright, alright, Happy Saturday to
everyone out there. Amen, welcome into the show. This isn't
This is going to be an exciting show. We're gonna
talk Dalen Hurts in just a few moments. Jordan loves Help.
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That will also be discussed today. Somebody said it's my time.
It may be your time at some point, but right
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is up on game. I'm LaVar Arrington, got my man's
to them, you know what I mean. We got t J.
Hushman's out of we got Plexico Burst. Did you guys
know that t J. Hushman's otto was well, he was
a pro bowler and Plexico Burst. I don't know how
he was never a pro bowler. Because that just sounds
insanely crazy. But he but he did get a Super Bowl,
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so shots out to that that is a crime. I
don't I don't get that one. But you know, sometimes
you're that person that people love to hate. How y'all feeling? Man?
How's everything going? How y'all doing? How is y'all's week?
I mean, I know y'all got football now and stuff
like that. One is playing flag, another one is playing tackle?
How how did it all go? How did how to
go down? For y'all? Well? For us, we we haven't
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even at We'll start uh playing again in about a
week and a half, two weeks, okay, so we're just
getting ready to play, y'all playing that real stuff, man,
that that fun stuff that brings a smile to your face.
You go. Yeah. My son had a second high school
scrimmers this morning, so it was early the wanting for me.
The scimmers at ten am last about an hour and
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a half, and you know, I was just so excited
to get back to uh listen to you guys and
get the show start out left early and I'm all
fired up? Man? How do you do? He didn't catch
any balls? You know, sometimes he goes that way. Yea,
and you know, we just we We're just gonna stay positive.
You know everybody wants that. You know, I'm ready to
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shine right now. But at all way, y'all got a
quarterback that can really get you all the ball, all
get the kids the ball. Uh, we're struggling right exactly.
So you know, like that this tough. Well, I'm glad
this turned into a quick off the top of the
show therapy session because well, I felt the same way
about my child yesterday evening he had no balls conn
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and he had a couple of tackles. If you if
you heard it from him, he was he was an all.
He had an All American performance last night. Saw from me.
I don't know how you what what lends he's using
to look at it, but you know, you gotta trust
the process. They are young, so uh guys speaking of
young speaking of thinking that they were something or maybe
they were more of something or maybe not. I don't
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you know, I don't know. Uh. We had a lot
of storylines take place this this weekend and kind of
take shape. And one of the bigger uh stories that
is out there that's being discussed is Jalen Hurts. You know,
we were waiting to see how that game would go.
We talked about the quarterbacks competition between Cam and Mac Jones.
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But then we also have discussed where Jalen Hurts is
on on the list of guys coming into the season
with something to prove. Uh what it what it meant
for him to be a starter for the Philadelphia Eagles
and their attempt to move forward and try to re
establish some success there. He comes out into the preseason game,
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he's doing the Q Dog, the Q Dog dance. You know,
he's moving around seemingly everything is cool, and then he
is a late scratch from the game. Uh. They also
said that he was reportedly taken to the hospital what
what had seemed to be some type of a stomach
uh situation infection, whatever it may have been. Are you
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buying this guy's and and and if you are, I'm
I'm interested in your your take on it, because with
a guy who has really come under the same type
of scrutiny and fire as as to a tongue valoa
in in Miami for being a guy that well, people
aren't sold on being the franchise guy, being the starting,
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starting guy for the team. We saw uh, Mr Foles, well,
well not Foles, excuse me, Uh, I can't even remember
his name. What what's the quarterback from? From? Uh? From Baltimore?
From Baltimore. We saw Joe Flacco do absolutely what we
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should have intended to think he was going to do
um at this point in his career and why he's
where he's at again? I mean, man, I couldn't even
remember his name. Uh. He did not do well. It
did not intensify a conversation of oh, well, he may
lose his job to Joe Flacco and he's not out there.
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So guys, what is your take on Jalen Hurts? What
does this mean for the Philadelphia Eagles? Is this much
of nothing? He had a moment or I mean, what
do you take away from him dancing, being there and
in warmups but then being a scratch from the game
and then taken to the hospital. Do you buy it?
I thought, honestly, we we've all been there. If you
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get on the field the pregame and you you're actually
able to get out during dance and smiling half fun,
there's not too much that's gonna take you away from that.
So he had to have been feeling like s h
I T and he was just out there putting on
a happy face and he was just like, bro, I
can't take this no more, Like I gotta say something
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that that's That's what I got from that. It it
was bothering him, and he thought he could He thought
he could use a drilling in of the game to
get his mind off of it, and he couldn't because
it's the preseason so that the drilling and isn't quite
the same as a regular season game. I just thought
it was very different, Like you're on the field now,
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you're not like it would very rarely to something just
hit you like that. If it's hitt him like that,
I hope he's okay. But yeah, I thought it was odd. Yeah,
I don't think. I don't think I've you know, seen
a witness in a situation like this where guys is
jumping around having fun and all of a sudden he
goes to his coaching staff and the medical stuff and said,
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but my stomach hurt and I don't think I can play.
And uh, it's different, man, it's a different generation and athlete.
But but secondly, Nick Serioni, Nick Sirianni and our quote
he said he had bad abdomin pain. For a guy
like that, he's a tough guy, that must have been
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hurting him pretty bad to let us know that his
stomach was hurting. I'm not judging how tough this guy is,
because you know, he's he's in the NFL, he's an
NFL quarterback, he's the NFL player. But I just don't
think that something less than you know, maybe eruption appendix
or something like that, is gonna take me out of
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a football game. Maybe he had to just bubble guts.
We all had the bubble guts, you know. Maybe maybe
it was bad gas or one of those things that
you know, you know, when he got to the hospital,
like man, you all right, man going out, Man going home,
Man going back to the field. You just had bad gass.
But for the Philadelphia Eagles and Nick Sirianni, when he
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was hired to take this job as the head coach,
we all said on the show a few months ago,
we was like, who is Nick Sirianni? And he has
a different set of issues that he needs to deal
with right now. He needs to try to figure out
how they gotta beat thirty fives. You by the New
England Pages Thursday night. In a preseason football game, there
are something there are some things in the preseason out
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of alarm. You may lose by ten or fourteen points,
but you just don't let anybody hanging thirty five points
up on you and say, you know what, it's the preseason.
We're gonna get better next week. Um, it doesn't happen.
And outside of Jalen Hurts, and we talked about this
last week, you bring in Joe Flaccos, the backup quarterback.
We just said last week that the backup quarterback in
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the NFL that's one of the most coveted positions in
all the sports. So now you're looking at yourself in
the Mary said, you know what, if anything happens to
Jalen Hurts, we don't have a quarterback. They need to
find a backup quarterback they can go out and compete
if Jalen Hurts gets injured to when football games because
right now they're dead last in the division. I got Washington, Dallas,
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the Giants, and the Eagles, so they got some things
they need to deal with. But Jalen Hurts, as far
as the started starting quarterback, he really doesn't have anybody
to compete against. So the starting job is going to
be his. But I think for him to take the
next step as the quarterback, he needs to get his
most reps in the preseason that he possibly can Alright,
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So I found it to be a tad bit bizarre.
I'm always careful in these moments because nobody knows when
a health issue can hit you, right, It can hit
you at any point in time. You know, people have
have dropped dead, you know what I mean. Like, so
I don't take the whole health thing lightly. So I
want to preface it by saying that, um, if something
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really really felt so bad where he had to go
into the hospital. Um, again, my first thought was, I
hope he's okay and everything that needed to happen took place.
Now I got that out of the way. But then
now I'm looking at it purely from if he was
my teammate. Purely if it were me that we're in
the situation you said rupture apendix, Like, to me, it
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would be nothing short of something that literally was life
threatening to me that if I made it all the
way into the locker room, went through the entire because
this is what people got to understand there's an entire
process to getting prepared for a game, even if it's
a preseason game. There's a process, and that's a long
it's a long process. It's not a short process from
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the time you leave the team hotel to go to
that stadium and get yourself prepared to play the game.
That is, there's an entire process that takes place, right,
And can I talk a bunch of the process though,
Go ahead? When the locker when I went into the
locker room for the first preseason game and Lavore had
his whole uniform laid on the floor with the jersey
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and the pants and the socks, everything connected. You know
who I learned that from I had that was see
that of my Life. I learned that from Prime. Oh,
I learned that's what Dion Sanders did, shouts out the Prime.
I learned that from Prime of My Life. Preseason that
boy was ready said it's a process for him, it's
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a process. You gotta prepare yourself. Look, Deon said it.
You look good, you play good, you play good. They
pay good, right, I mean as Deon said it. And
you know, I learned that. I was influenced by them
dudes growing up, but to have them his teammates. That
was the one thing Dion did. And his his locker
was right like right by mine. So when I come
into the locker room, it's crazy. But he'd have his
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whole uniform laid out like what he's gonna wear, how
he's gonna wear it, like he thought it through and
and it it made like I saw me, I saw
me in my uniform. So yeah, I did let my
stuff out. Um yeah, you know, imitation is the best
form of flattery. But I just you know, going through that,
it's like, at what point in time where you put
you know, you get there, you you get your ankles
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taped or you you get loosened up. Some people do
hot tubbing, some people do contrasting. Some people do a
whole lot of stuff. The pregame of of the pre game,
where you go out on the field, you check to
see if your spikes are ready to go, what what
type of bottom are you gonna use, what's the surface
light like fellas. There are a whole lot of things
that you have to make sense of before you even
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come out there for warm ups. There's an entire process.
If his belly was so bad that he had to
end up going to to the hospital for observation or
or test or a check. How does that not become
a conversation before then, Because now that says to me
that the communication is off already between coaches and players.
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It's already off. And if your main player that you
need to be who he needs to be in the scenario,
if your team is going to have any type of
opportunity to have any type of success this season, is
sitting there telling you moments before a scrimmage game that
he can't go because abdominal pains. Whether it's it's all
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the way true, whether it's not, there's something that is
not correct here unless the one the one piece of
it where you would say, this thing just hit him
out of the blue in that moment and it hurt
him that bad. If that's the case and that comes out,
I totally apologize for my theory. But to me, it's
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it's almost as though there is a bigger issue here.
If you're telling me that you had no inkling or
idea of what Jalen Hurts was feeling all the way
up to that point. You let him go out there,
or he let himself go out there and and dance
around and be in his uniform and get ready for
the game. It's a big game. Everybody is talking about
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quarterbacks this preseason. How do you allow that to happen?
All right, listen, we're gonna take a quick break because
we're up on up against it, but we're going to
continue to have this conversation. We'll also talk about Jordan Love.
He has a shoulder injury. How does that play out
in in Green Bay? I mean, when things like that
take place, you gotta have the conversation. Aaron Rodgers seemingly
is looking like a brilliant mad scientists and how he's
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executing and how things are Did he do a voodoo
doll dance? That did he did? He puts pins and
needles into a doll that that is named Jordan Love.
I don't know about all those things and more. We're
gonna just scuss and talk about you're listening up on game.
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Zatta and Plexico Burrs. I'm LaVar Arrington. We'll be right back.
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LaVar Arrington. Before we went to break, we were talking
about Jalen Hurts from dancing to the hospital. Now I
had a theory, guys, And my theory was this, like,
sometimes you know, people don't understand how serious or how
real um self medicating self self uh treating is amongst
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how prevalent it is with with athletes. And I can
recall I used to to take an amount of pills
um that were I took. I took at bills, they
were at vils, and since they weren't prescription strength, I
would take as many advils as it would take to
equal the milligrams of a prescription strength pill. So I
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might I might if it, you know, depending on the
milligram of the pill that just right out of the
bottle I might have took. I don't know, like five,
said seven to get to a thousand milligrams. Like in
my mind, I'm doing the math. I want to get
to I want to get the milligrams, and everyone, well
I would, and they had a very extensive math program
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at so yeah, well you're stupid. So I mean, look,
here's the thing, right, like, I made sure that well,
I didn't want I didn't want to be sore. I
knew I was gonna be hit button dudes. I knew
I was gonna be be thumping on dudes. And quite frankly,
that was kind of like my Habit was, I would
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if I didn't get a tord all shot, or if
I didn't get you know, already have a prescription. You
know that was given that that I could just use
a vic it in or or into send whatever it
may be, I would take Yeah, right, I was right, right, right,
I would. I would take a I would take enough
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at bills to to match what you know, those milligrams were.
And I can recall one time my stomach was jacked
up like bad, like in knots and I still played,
but it was like it was really uncomfortable for at
least the first half of that game, and I know
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it was probably from taking all them pills. Do you
think that there's a possibility that maybe something between then
and then happened where there was some type of because
if you think about it, dudes have used horse horse uh,
tranquilizing rubb ons and topicals, and dudes will use some
wild ish to to try to get themselves ready for
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a game. Take different dudes be doing I vs. With
with juices and berries and fruits the preseason. But but
but but t J. But guys be over the top
with their treatments, is what I'm saying. You don't know though,
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with with Syrian reluctant to name a starter, maybe he
felt so bad, but I gotta get out there and
play it. He knows he no, he knows he's a starter, right,
he knows he's a starter, but they have not named
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a starter. So you think he's trying his hand to
let you to let them know what they had as
far as naming him as a starting quarterback. Maybe he
felt the pressure if I gotta play, I haven't been
named starter, like I'm gonna be the start. You're saying
he did it strategically to show that he ain't like
t J. T J. You're saying that he was not
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trying to say he was hurting because he's not trying
to lose the opportunity to get the jokes. Yeah, but
we know, you know he's going to be the starter.
You know he's gonna dude. We were not disreports. They're
not sure if Jalen Hurts can be a franchise quarterback.
They not sure if they'll draft a quarterback next year
that's the quarterback if he plays well, they're not Yeah,
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so so uh. That maybe one of the reasons why
I said, you know what, let me sit out this
game so y'all can get a good look at everything
that y'all have in the house to let y'all know
that I am why would you? Why would you do it?
But why would you do it? Just an assumption that
I'm making. But it makes no sense for me for
for a god to be dancing around, you know, laughing,
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joking and healthy, and all of a sudden you just
go to the hospital. Listen. I'm not passing judgment on anything,
all right, And I mentioned that, but it just seems
rather odd for a player to be that excited getting
ready to play and all of a sudden you just,
you know what, I can't go. Let me get you,
Let me get you another scenario. Let me give you
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all another scenario. All right, Now, there was the idea
of self medicated that I thought about. But then I
start thinking to myself, okay, taking that for the preseason
for Okay, well, let's let's look out another one. You
guys shot that one down. Here's another one that I
was thinking about. You remember the one year, You remember
the one year uh de War was coming down the
stairs and and coach always said take your spikes off,
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don't don't be coming up and down the stairs. And
he messed around and broke his foot going up and
down the stairs with his spikes. Are is there a
possibility that something else happened during the course of time
between when he was dancing and when he was pulled
out of the game, because there has not been any
real conversation other than them saying his stomach. But is
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there a chance that maybe there's a different injury that
they didn't want to disclose to the public and they
just gave the stomach as this is the injury, and
we're gonna leave it at that, and let's get through
it that way. I mean, it's a possibility, But you know,
I've only really been involved personally with uh An instance
was something like this, happened, and it happened to us.
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We were playing the Baltimore Ravens in the in the
playoffs in two thousand one in Pittsburgh and Jerome Bettis
had a had a growing injury and he was supposed
to get some local what is the court of z
own to numb the pain, and they hit a nerve
and like, his whole leg went numb, and you know,
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he was gonna play, he was going to be the starter.
His leg went numb and he was unable to play.
And then you know, a miss Wade came in and
started when up winning the game. But but it was
like a whole thing that it was only it's the
only instance that I've been in a situation where a
guy is on the field. I never heard that story.
Did that story ever get out? What I just told it? Okay,
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So what I'm telling you is, what if that's what happened?
Because they had to give a story as to why
Jerome Bettis wasn't playing, So maybe they were just like, look,
he's fighting a growing injury. He's not gonna be up
for the day. Everybody knew he had a growing injury.
Everybody knew that. But did everybody know that he was
a scratch or did they were people anticipating was the
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media was of being reported that he was probable to play?
Was he probable on We literally found out coming back
out of the locker room walking to the football field
that he wasn't going to play, And it was everybody
was surprised because he was out there on the field
with us. He came in, worked out, the doctors cleared
him or whatever, and we came back coming back out
to the locker room to play the game, and the
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drum was not playing, and so you know, we had
we had a whole game playing based off of him.
So then Amy steps in who hadn't played, and you know,
three or four weeks or whatever the case may be,
he becomes a starter. That's the only time I've been
involved or witnessed a situation as such. But last year
we had to hold Tyler rod Taylor situation with getting
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punctured by the needle and and Ali Herbert game. But
it happened preseason. Bro, I mean, this has some tremendous
implications connected to it. Really if you're the Philadelphia Eagles,
I mean, because really they're the only ones that know
the truth of what really took place? Right, I mean,
so now you how to ask yourself again, what is
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the truth? And if the truth truly is that his
belly was messed up like that, I don't I just
don't know that I could trust the dude that would
tell me I had this happened to me, I had
this happened to me in high school. I had a
kid um last year, let not this past season. The
season before we make it to the playoffs. And then
he's a freshman kid and and he was our he
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was going to be our quarterback by default because the
starter was not acting as a starter. So I made
the freshman the quarterback. I made the switch. We get
into into warm ups, we're warming up, we're warming up.
It had two minutes left on the warm up clock
before we went over to the sideline and was ready
to kick off the game. And he tells me, coach,
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my knee is hurting. And I'm like, okay, well, okay, go,
Like I mean, are you telling me it's hurting? Like
like I'm gonna get through this, and and like I'm or, yeah,
you need to go see the trainer and make sure
you got some tape on it. Or get did you
get did you forget your knee braids? Like he's like coach,
and he looked at me. He looked at he he
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looked at me, and he was he looked at me
like coach. I was like, if you don't get out
of my face and go see go see the trainer,
go see the trainer. Right and and basically after everything
took place and we talked, um, he was scared. He
was scared. We were planning an undefeated team and and
you know he was scared to go in there and
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be the starter as a freshman. So I've experienced it happening,
but I just don't think that that's the case in here.
But so to me, I still but but I'll tell
you this, I never trusted the kid anymore. I didn't
trust the kid. Like if we got to a high
impact situation, It's like I can't look at him and
say to myself, I can confidently trust him. And we
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all know the relationship between a coach and a player
has to be one of of ultimate trust between the two,
one going back and being reciprocated. Otherwise you could be
the best football player talent wise on the team. But
if I don't trust that you're going to do what
I need you to do in the in the moment
you need to do them. I may have a player
playing that isn't as good as you, but I can
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trust that person. So I mean, I don't know. I
don't know what the end result of this is, but
I would have to say that this creates a weird dynamic.
Odd when I when I read it before it happened, like, huh,
that's weird. That's really weird, very odd, man, It's very odd.
All right, Well, that's enough on Jalen Hurts. But from
one injured quarterback to another, Uh, we're gonna talk to
(28:33):
some Jordan Love. But first let's go to Ralphie first,
some trending. What we got going on? Ralphit, well, believe
it or not, we've got NFL football and you're shocked
about that. Uh. Mitchell Trubisky going back to Soldier Field
with the Buffalo Bills. He gets the start and the
first drive at of a little something like worth in
about a yard, Trabisky pitches out left side motor singletary,
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first town heads to the end doing and is he
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with the calls to Drawhisky leads him right down the field.
But it couldn't be better than next drive, right, guys, right? Uh,
it couldn't have possibly been better? Yeah, accept it as
(29:16):
Mitchell Trubisky has just hit Jake Kumero in the end zone.
Thirteen nothing, Now Buffalo with a lead over Chicago, three
minutes to play in the first quarter. Mitchell Trubisky twelve
of seventeen a hundred and thirteen yards and what touchdown
already there in the first quarter. Bears fans are really
excited to have Andy Dalton starting today. I'm sure of it. Uh.
(29:38):
Ten NFL preseason games on the schedule, did you okay? Well?
I heard well, I was trying to I was trying
to make it something. Uh. Major League Baseball action. Two
games on the field right now, Tampa Bay hosting the
White Sox, battle of first place teams and Wander Franco
and rb I double and Brandon Lowe a two run double.
(30:03):
The Rays with a three nothing lead over the White
Sox Chicago Now batting in the second inning Minnesota and
the Yankees their scoreless in the second inning as well,
so we sent it back it is on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
that was a winner. That was a winner. That's what
(30:23):
That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, bring that energy. Alright, alright,
so let's let's shift gears here, guys, and and let's
go to Green Bay and let's talk about one Jordan Love.
He's been the biggest story out of Green Bay training
camp since having the shoulder injury Fellas. Now, to me,
this is this is all playing into the mad Scientists,
(30:43):
the evil scientists, his conspiracy theories created, and what he
wants to get done through hostile takeover. Uh, you know,
I'm just I'm curious he you know, coach la Floor
says he's he's basically unlikely to play Jordan Love in
this game against the Jets today. And we all know,
(31:06):
or at least I would assume knowing that that Aaron
Rodgers is not going to take or reportedly isn't going
to take any snaps. Which that's crazy, right, because it's like,
if Jordan Love plays, he's got to play well to
show that they can move on without Aaron Rodgers. It
totally debunks what Aaron Rodgers is doing. If Jordan Love
(31:28):
has a spectacular preseason, but now you have an Aaron
Rodgers that is allowing for Jordan's Love to show what
he is or what he isn't and an injury takes place,
and now Jordan Love won't be playing uh today in
this game, which I would assume because the preseason is
shorter and the regular season is longer. This is is
(31:52):
what we saw out of at least New England. This
game is probably the dress rehearsal game. This is the
game where they probably pair as if it was a
regular season game and and actually do a scout report
somewhat of a scouting report approached the game from the
standpoint of it being a regular game week. So with
that being said, guys, what does this mean for Jordan's
(32:16):
Love not being able to play due to health and
what is your take on it as to how it
applies to the overall landscape of what this Green Bay
Packers team needs to be thinking moving forward and how
does that play out like however you want to relate it.
If if it's to Aaron Rodgers, if it's to Jordan's Love,
if it's to my job as a front office guy,
(32:36):
how does that play out? I mean, for for the Packers,
I'm sure there damn. He finally gets a chance to play,
he looks pretty good, goes down with the energy. Okay,
it's not that bad. But man, you can't play a
second game type of thing. I'm sure. Man. You know,
these coaches are talking amongst each other and they're saying,
(32:57):
I can't trust him, I can't trust this. And that's
just the reality of it. Man, that's what goes on
behind the scenes. Now. Coaches talk really bad. Let me
put this out there to everybody out there and that
doesn't that does not know football culture, football culture, coaches, scouts, gms,
(33:18):
even sometimes medical staff. They talk. I mean, if you
could hear some of the things they say about players
behind closed doors, Uh, it would mortify you to think that. Wait,
you guys are coaching these people, do I mean, do
you think that these people matter to you? Like you
would come to so many weird ass conclusions as to
(33:40):
what the dynamic and the relationships are between these people
by the way you hear them speak of players. So
go ahead, good with that being said, go ahead, No,
And I noticed this. Plaques probably noticed it as well.
When you do that internship and you sit in on
the meetings, oh my good, you'd be like wait, wait,
(34:01):
wait wait, I'll never forget it. Man. The first time
I was sitting in the back of the meeting and
one of the coaches were like, yeah, that's how we
used to talk about y'all because I knew that. I
was thinking they knew I was thinking it, like damn,
this is how y'all talk about us like some dogs. Man,
(34:21):
like you are a piece of meat. If you cannot
help me, h, I have no use for you. And
that's basically what it is with George Love like, if
you can help him, they are in your corner, and
if you cannot, they have no use for you. So
Jordan Love Bro, you better get healthy because all they
want you to do is show him you can consistently
do with it game in and game out. But how
(34:44):
much time? But how much time? Does he have? Much? Problem?
Is he has one more game? I mean, is that enough?
It's gonna have to be enough for Green Bay. If
Aaron Rodgers says he wants out, they have no choice now.
But what if Aaron Rodgers doesn't want out? What if
Aaron Rodgers is using this as the ability to be
(35:04):
able to have more leverage where I'm sure that's something
we'll find out when the season is over, but I
believe this is gonna be Aaron rodgers last season. Look
at this is not a good situation for for Jordan's Love.
Number one, the evaluation period for Jordan's Love was this
preseason for the green Bay Packers. That was the evaluation
(35:29):
period for him as being the next quarterback if Aaron
Rodgers choose to leave Green Bay. So now they don't
get a chance to evaluate them. So, uh, Aaron Rodgers
is not going to play this preseason, you get your
third three quarterback Kurt b ben Kirk taking all the
steps for an entire game. That does the green Bay
(35:50):
Packers no justice that that doesn't help them in any
way shape or for him because he's not even on
the radar for being a quarterback for in the quarterback
for this team, so it doesn't help him in any way.
But what it does do for Aaron Rodgers and in
the Green Bay organization and say, look, you know we're
gonna make you the highest paid player, highest player player
(36:12):
and quarterback in all the football if you want to stay.
If they're unsure about Jordan's Love, listen, only they know
what what caliber player Jordan's Love is. All we do
is get to see, you know, him perform in the preseason.
We haven't even seen that. We saw one game, so
only they know. We don't know what he's capable of
(36:34):
doing them because he sat out all sixteen games last year,
didn't dress, and now he gets an opportunity to play
and he's hurt. With the short preseason, I don't think
he's gonna play in the third preseason game because they
don't want to risk him for further injury. So what
does that leave you with Jordan Love? Because you know
(36:55):
game one, he's not gonna play the entire season unless
Rodgers gets hurt, he goes down, or you're beating somebody
thirty affoided in zero. Those are the only times that
you're gonna get to see him played. Because now his
evaluation period was this preseason and now they don't even
have that and you get your third quarterback, third s
(37:18):
three quarterback taking all the rest for the preseason. That
does nothing for anybody. So Jordan Love is not a
good situation for him. It gives it puts Aaron just
in a place to where he doesn't have to leave.
You can renegotiate Davante Adams contract because now Aaron Rodgers staying.
(37:40):
Obviously that's who he wants to play with because he
didn't take a long term crime track with the Patriots,
I mean with with the Packers. So if that happens,
everybody is healthy. And if you make Aaron Rodders the
highest paid quarterback or in the highest played player and
uh annually or whatever the salaries, maybe I think he'll
stay in Green Bay. But other than that, Jordan's love,
(38:02):
we just don't know he's capable of doing because he
didn't play. And I think this totally disrupts what what
the front office was hoping to take place for for
them in terms of their job security, their their reputations,
their credibility. Aaron Rodgers basically called out the front office
and said that they're not running this organization the right way.
They don't know what they're doing. I am Green Bay.
(38:24):
People come here for Aaron Rodgers. Tell me I'm wrong.
And then with that being with that being made clear
with his interview, he has not done any real interviews
of real substance with information. Since and isn't playing in
the preseason, this could have very much so played in
the hands and then the favor of Green Bay and
what's taking place and now this Jordan Love is not
(38:47):
able to validate what these guys in the front office
have done. In fact, it could go towards validating what
Aaron Rodgers had to say. This is an interesting topic.
It will continue to come up, will continue to be
here top about it as it unfolds. But next Andy Dalton, Huh,
he had some very interesting things to say. Uh. Some
(39:08):
was connected to Justin Fields, but more so connected to him.
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bor old time, come home. Man, I don't do ccinetti bravardo.
(45:33):
You know, they just walking around. They stumpled towels and
that's what That's just what they do. And that's just
that I can't figure it out why, but they just
have a certain bravado about them. And uh, it's not
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so shots out to that that is a crime. I
don't I don't get that one. But you know, sometimes
you're that person that people love to hate. How y'all feeling? Man?
How's everything going? How y'all doing? How is y'all's week?
I mean, I know y'all got football now and stuff
like that. One is playing flag, another one is playing tackle?
How how did it all go? How did how to
go down? For y'all? Well? For us, we we haven't
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even at We'll start uh playing again in about a
week and a half, two weeks, okay, so we're just
getting ready to play, y'all playing that real stuff, man,
that that fun stuff that brings a smile to your face.
You go. Yeah. My son had a second high school
scrimmers this morning, so it was early the wanting for me.
The scimmers at ten am last about an hour and
(03:16):
a half, and you know, I was just so excited
to get back to uh listen to you guys and
get the show start out left early and I'm all
fired up? Man? How do you do? He didn't catch
any balls? You know, sometimes he goes that way. Yea,
and you know, we just we We're just gonna stay positive.
You know everybody wants that. You know, I'm ready to
(03:37):
shine right now. But at all way, y'all got a
quarterback that can really get you all the ball, all
get the kids the ball. Uh, we're struggling right exactly.
So you know, like that this tough. Well, I'm glad
this turned into a quick off the top of the
show therapy session because well, I felt the same way
about my child yesterday evening he had no balls conn
(03:58):
and he had a couple of tackles. If you if
you heard it from him, he was he was an all.
He had an All American performance last night. Saw from me.
I don't know how you what what lends he's using
to look at it, but you know, you gotta trust
the process. They are young, so uh guys speaking of
young speaking of thinking that they were something or maybe
they were more of something or maybe not. I don't
(04:19):
you know, I don't know. Uh. We had a lot
of storylines take place this this weekend and kind of
take shape. And one of the bigger uh stories that
is out there that's being discussed is Jalen Hurts. You know,
we were waiting to see how that game would go.
We talked about the quarterbacks competition between Cam and Mac Jones.
(04:40):
But then we also have discussed where Jalen Hurts is
on on the list of guys coming into the season
with something to prove. Uh what it what it meant
for him to be a starter for the Philadelphia Eagles
and their attempt to move forward and try to re
establish some success there. He comes out into the preseason game,
(05:02):
he's doing the Q Dog, the Q Dog dance. You know,
he's moving around seemingly everything is cool, and then he
is a late scratch from the game. Uh. They also
said that he was reportedly taken to the hospital what
what had seemed to be some type of a stomach
uh situation infection, whatever it may have been. Are you
(05:26):
buying this guy's and and and if you are, I'm
I'm interested in your your take on it, because with
a guy who has really come under the same type
of scrutiny and fire as as to a tongue valoa
in in Miami for being a guy that well, people
aren't sold on being the franchise guy, being the starting,
(05:47):
starting guy for the team. We saw uh, Mr Foles, well,
well not Foles, excuse me, Uh, I can't even remember
his name. What what's the quarterback from? From? Uh? From Baltimore?
From Baltimore. We saw Joe Flacco do absolutely what we
(06:08):
should have intended to think he was going to do
um at this point in his career and why he's
where he's at again? I mean, man, I couldn't even
remember his name. Uh. He did not do well. It
did not intensify a conversation of oh, well, he may
lose his job to Joe Flacco and he's not out there.
(06:28):
So guys, what is your take on Jalen Hurts? What
does this mean for the Philadelphia Eagles? Is this much
of nothing? He had a moment or I mean, what
do you take away from him dancing, being there and
in warmups but then being a scratch from the game
and then taken to the hospital. Do you buy it?
I thought, honestly, we we've all been there. If you
(06:50):
get on the field the pregame and you you're actually
able to get out during dance and smiling half fun,
there's not too much that's gonna take you away from that.
So he had to have been feeling like s h
I T and he was just out there putting on
a happy face and he was just like, bro, I
can't take this no more, Like I gotta say something
(07:12):
that that's That's what I got from that. It it
was bothering him, and he thought he could He thought
he could use a drilling in of the game to
get his mind off of it, and he couldn't because
it's the preseason so that the drilling and isn't quite
the same as a regular season game. I just thought
it was very different, Like you're on the field now,
(07:34):
you're not like it would very rarely to something just
hit you like that. If it's hitt him like that,
I hope he's okay. But yeah, I thought it was odd. Yeah,
I don't think. I don't think I've you know, seen
a witness in a situation like this where guys is
jumping around having fun and all of a sudden he
goes to his coaching staff and the medical stuff and said,
(07:54):
but my stomach hurt and I don't think I can play.
And uh, it's different, man, it's a different generation and athlete.
But but secondly, Nick Serioni, Nick Sirianni and our quote
he said he had bad abdomin pain. For a guy
like that, he's a tough guy, that must have been
(08:15):
hurting him pretty bad to let us know that his
stomach was hurting. I'm not judging how tough this guy is,
because you know, he's he's in the NFL, he's an
NFL quarterback, he's the NFL player. But I just don't
think that something less than you know, maybe eruption appendix
or something like that, is gonna take me out of
(08:36):
a football game. Maybe he had to just bubble guts.
We all had the bubble guts, you know. Maybe maybe
it was bad gas or one of those things that
you know, you know, when he got to the hospital,
like man, you all right, man going out, Man going home,
Man going back to the field. You just had bad gass.
But for the Philadelphia Eagles and Nick Sirianni, when he
(08:59):
was hired to take this job as the head coach,
we all said on the show a few months ago,
we was like, who is Nick Sirianni? And he has
a different set of issues that he needs to deal
with right now. He needs to try to figure out
how they gotta beat thirty fives. You by the New
England Pages Thursday night. In a preseason football game, there
are something there are some things in the preseason out
(09:20):
of alarm. You may lose by ten or fourteen points,
but you just don't let anybody hanging thirty five points
up on you and say, you know what, it's the preseason.
We're gonna get better next week. Um, it doesn't happen.
And outside of Jalen Hurts, and we talked about this
last week, you bring in Joe Flaccos, the backup quarterback.
We just said last week that the backup quarterback in
(09:42):
the NFL that's one of the most coveted positions in
all the sports. So now you're looking at yourself in
the Mary said, you know what, if anything happens to
Jalen Hurts, we don't have a quarterback. They need to
find a backup quarterback they can go out and compete
if Jalen Hurts gets injured to when football games because
right now they're dead last in the division. I got Washington, Dallas,
(10:07):
the Giants, and the Eagles, so they got some things
they need to deal with. But Jalen Hurts, as far
as the started starting quarterback, he really doesn't have anybody
to compete against. So the starting job is going to
be his. But I think for him to take the
next step as the quarterback, he needs to get his
most reps in the preseason that he possibly can Alright,
(10:28):
So I found it to be a tad bit bizarre.
I'm always careful in these moments because nobody knows when
a health issue can hit you, right, It can hit
you at any point in time. You know, people have
have dropped dead, you know what I mean. Like, so
I don't take the whole health thing lightly. So I
want to preface it by saying that, um, if something
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really really felt so bad where he had to go
into the hospital. Um, again, my first thought was, I
hope he's okay and everything that needed to happen took place.
Now I got that out of the way. But then
now I'm looking at it purely from if he was
my teammate. Purely if it were me that we're in
the situation you said rupture apendix, Like, to me, it
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would be nothing short of something that literally was life
threatening to me that if I made it all the
way into the locker room, went through the entire because
this is what people got to understand there's an entire
process to getting prepared for a game, even if it's
a preseason game. There's a process, and that's a long
it's a long process. It's not a short process from
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the time you leave the team hotel to go to
that stadium and get yourself prepared to play the game.
That is, there's an entire process that takes place, right,
And can I talk a bunch of the process though,
Go ahead? When the locker when I went into the
locker room for the first preseason game and Lavore had
his whole uniform laid on the floor with the jersey
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and the pants and the socks, everything connected. You know
who I learned that from I had that was see
that of my Life. I learned that from Prime. Oh,
I learned that's what Dion Sanders did, shouts out the Prime.
I learned that from Prime of My Life. Preseason that
boy was ready said it's a process for him, it's
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a process. You gotta prepare yourself. Look, Deon said it.
You look good, you play good, you play good. They
pay good, right, I mean as Deon said it. And
you know, I learned that. I was influenced by them
dudes growing up, but to have them his teammates. That
was the one thing Dion did. And his his locker
was right like right by mine. So when I come
into the locker room, it's crazy. But he'd have his
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whole uniform laid out like what he's gonna wear, how
he's gonna wear it, like he thought it through and
and it it made like I saw me, I saw
me in my uniform. So yeah, I did let my
stuff out. Um yeah, you know, imitation is the best
form of flattery. But I just you know, going through that,
it's like, at what point in time where you put
you know, you get there, you you get your ankles
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taped or you you get loosened up. Some people do
hot tubbing, some people do contrasting. Some people do a
whole lot of stuff. The pregame of of the pre game,
where you go out on the field, you check to
see if your spikes are ready to go, what what
type of bottom are you gonna use, what's the surface
light like fellas. There are a whole lot of things
that you have to make sense of before you even
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come out there for warm ups. There's an entire process.
If his belly was so bad that he had to
end up going to to the hospital for observation or
or test or a check. How does that not become
a conversation before then, Because now that says to me
that the communication is off already between coaches and players.
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It's already off. And if your main player that you
need to be who he needs to be in the scenario,
if your team is going to have any type of
opportunity to have any type of success this season, is
sitting there telling you moments before a scrimmage game that
he can't go because abdominal pains. Whether it's it's all
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the way true, whether it's not, there's something that is
not correct here unless the one the one piece of
it where you would say, this thing just hit him
out of the blue in that moment and it hurt
him that bad. If that's the case and that comes out,
I totally apologize for my theory. But to me, it's
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it's almost as though there is a bigger issue here.
If you're telling me that you had no inkling or
idea of what Jalen Hurts was feeling all the way
up to that point. You let him go out there,
or he let himself go out there and and dance
around and be in his uniform and get ready for
the game. It's a big game. Everybody is talking about
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quarterbacks this preseason. How do you allow that to happen?
All right, listen, we're gonna take a quick break because
we're up on up against it, but we're going to
continue to have this conversation. We'll also talk about Jordan Love.
He has a shoulder injury. How does that play out
in in Green Bay? I mean, when things like that
take place, you gotta have the conversation. Aaron Rodgers seemingly
is looking like a brilliant mad scientists and how he's
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executing and how things are Did he do a voodoo
doll dance? That did he did? He puts pins and
needles into a doll that that is named Jordan Love.
I don't know about all those things and more. We're
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LaVar Arrington. Before we went to break, we were talking
about Jalen Hurts from dancing to the hospital. Now I
had a theory, guys, And my theory was this, like,
sometimes you know, people don't understand how serious or how
real um self medicating self self uh treating is amongst
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how prevalent it is with with athletes. And I can
recall I used to to take an amount of pills
um that were I took. I took at bills, they
were at vils, and since they weren't prescription strength, I
would take as many advils as it would take to
equal the milligrams of a prescription strength pill. So I
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might I might if it, you know, depending on the
milligram of the pill that just right out of the
bottle I might have took. I don't know, like five,
said seven to get to a thousand milligrams. Like in
my mind, I'm doing the math. I want to get
to I want to get the milligrams, and everyone, well
I would, and they had a very extensive math program
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at so yeah, well you're stupid. So I mean, look,
here's the thing, right, like, I made sure that well,
I didn't want I didn't want to be sore. I
knew I was gonna be hit button dudes. I knew
I was gonna be be thumping on dudes. And quite frankly,
that was kind of like my Habit was, I would
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if I didn't get a tord all shot, or if
I didn't get you know, already have a prescription. You
know that was given that that I could just use
a vic it in or or into send whatever it
may be, I would take Yeah, right, I was right, right, right,
I would. I would take a I would take enough
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at bills to to match what you know, those milligrams were.
And I can recall one time my stomach was jacked
up like bad, like in knots and I still played,
but it was like it was really uncomfortable for at
least the first half of that game, and I know
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it was probably from taking all them pills. Do you
think that there's a possibility that maybe something between then
and then happened where there was some type of because
if you think about it, dudes have used horse horse uh,
tranquilizing rubb ons and topicals, and dudes will use some
wild ish to to try to get themselves ready for
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a game. Take different dudes be doing I vs. With
with juices and berries and fruits the preseason. But but
but but t J. But guys be over the top
with their treatments, is what I'm saying. You don't know though,
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with with Syrian reluctant to name a starter, maybe he
felt so bad, but I gotta get out there and
play it. He knows he no, he knows he's a starter, right,
he knows he's a starter, but they have not named
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a starter. So you think he's trying his hand to
let you to let them know what they had as
far as naming him as a starting quarterback. Maybe he
felt the pressure if I gotta play, I haven't been
named starter, like I'm gonna be the start. You're saying
he did it strategically to show that he ain't like
t J. T J. You're saying that he was not
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trying to say he was hurting because he's not trying
to lose the opportunity to get the jokes. Yeah, but
we know, you know he's going to be the starter.
You know he's gonna dude. We were not disreports. They're
not sure if Jalen Hurts can be a franchise quarterback.
They not sure if they'll draft a quarterback next year
that's the quarterback if he plays well, they're not Yeah,
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so so uh. That maybe one of the reasons why
I said, you know what, let me sit out this
game so y'all can get a good look at everything
that y'all have in the house to let y'all know
that I am why would you? Why would you do it?
But why would you do it? Just an assumption that
I'm making. But it makes no sense for me for
for a god to be dancing around, you know, laughing,
(22:27):
joking and healthy, and all of a sudden you just
go to the hospital. Listen. I'm not passing judgment on anything,
all right, And I mentioned that, but it just seems
rather odd for a player to be that excited getting
ready to play and all of a sudden you just,
you know what, I can't go. Let me get you,
Let me get you another scenario. Let me give you
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all another scenario. All right, Now, there was the idea
of self medicated that I thought about. But then I
start thinking to myself, okay, taking that for the preseason
for Okay, well, let's let's look out another one. You
guys shot that one down. Here's another one that I
was thinking about. You remember the one year, You remember
the one year uh de War was coming down the
stairs and and coach always said take your spikes off,
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don't don't be coming up and down the stairs. And
he messed around and broke his foot going up and
down the stairs with his spikes. Are is there a
possibility that something else happened during the course of time
between when he was dancing and when he was pulled
out of the game, because there has not been any
real conversation other than them saying his stomach. But is
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there a chance that maybe there's a different injury that
they didn't want to disclose to the public and they
just gave the stomach as this is the injury, and
we're gonna leave it at that, and let's get through
it that way. I mean, it's a possibility, But you know,
I've only really been involved personally with uh An instance
was something like this, happened, and it happened to us.
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We were playing the Baltimore Ravens in the in the
playoffs in two thousand one in Pittsburgh and Jerome Bettis
had a had a growing injury and he was supposed
to get some local what is the court of z
own to numb the pain, and they hit a nerve
and like, his whole leg went numb, and you know,
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he was gonna play, he was going to be the starter.
His leg went numb and he was unable to play.
And then you know, a miss Wade came in and
started when up winning the game. But but it was
like a whole thing that it was only it's the
only instance that I've been in a situation where a
guy is on the field. I never heard that story.
Did that story ever get out? What I just told it? Okay,
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So what I'm telling you is, what if that's what happened?
Because they had to give a story as to why
Jerome Bettis wasn't playing, So maybe they were just like, look,
he's fighting a growing injury. He's not gonna be up
for the day. Everybody knew he had a growing injury.
Everybody knew that. But did everybody know that he was
a scratch or did they were people anticipating was the
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media was of being reported that he was probable to play?
Was he probable on We literally found out coming back
out of the locker room walking to the football field
that he wasn't going to play, And it was everybody
was surprised because he was out there on the field
with us. He came in, worked out, the doctors cleared
him or whatever, and we came back coming back out
to the locker room to play the game, and the
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drum was not playing, and so you know, we had
we had a whole game playing based off of him.
So then Amy steps in who hadn't played, and you know,
three or four weeks or whatever the case may be,
he becomes a starter. That's the only time I've been
involved or witnessed a situation as such. But last year
we had to hold Tyler rod Taylor situation with getting
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punctured by the needle and and Ali Herbert game. But
it happened preseason. Bro, I mean, this has some tremendous
implications connected to it. Really if you're the Philadelphia Eagles,
I mean, because really they're the only ones that know
the truth of what really took place? Right, I mean,
so now you how to ask yourself again, what is
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the truth? And if the truth truly is that his
belly was messed up like that, I don't I just
don't know that I could trust the dude that would
tell me I had this happened to me, I had
this happened to me in high school. I had a
kid um last year, let not this past season. The
season before we make it to the playoffs. And then
he's a freshman kid and and he was our he
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was going to be our quarterback by default because the
starter was not acting as a starter. So I made
the freshman the quarterback. I made the switch. We get
into into warm ups, we're warming up, we're warming up.
It had two minutes left on the warm up clock
before we went over to the sideline and was ready
to kick off the game. And he tells me, coach,
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my knee is hurting. And I'm like, okay, well, okay, go,
Like I mean, are you telling me it's hurting? Like
like I'm gonna get through this, and and like I'm or, yeah,
you need to go see the trainer and make sure
you got some tape on it. Or get did you
get did you forget your knee braids? Like he's like coach,
and he looked at me. He looked at he he
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looked at me, and he was he looked at me
like coach. I was like, if you don't get out
of my face and go see go see the trainer,
go see the trainer. Right and and basically after everything
took place and we talked, um, he was scared. He
was scared. We were planning an undefeated team and and
you know he was scared to go in there and
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be the starter as a freshman. So I've experienced it happening,
but I just don't think that that's the case in here.
But so to me, I still but but I'll tell
you this, I never trusted the kid anymore. I didn't
trust the kid. Like if we got to a high
impact situation, It's like I can't look at him and
say to myself, I can confidently trust him. And we
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all know the relationship between a coach and a player
has to be one of of ultimate trust between the two,
one going back and being reciprocated. Otherwise you could be
the best football player talent wise on the team. But
if I don't trust that you're going to do what
I need you to do in the in the moment
you need to do them. I may have a player
playing that isn't as good as you, but I can
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trust that person. So I mean, I don't know. I
don't know what the end result of this is, but
I would have to say that this creates a weird dynamic.
Odd when I when I read it before it happened, like, huh,
that's weird. That's really weird, very odd, man, It's very odd.
All right, Well, that's enough on Jalen Hurts. But from
one injured quarterback to another, Uh, we're gonna talk to
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some Jordan Love. But first let's go to Ralphie first,
some trending. What we got going on? Ralphit, well, believe
it or not, we've got NFL football and you're shocked
about that. Uh. Mitchell Trubisky going back to Soldier Field
with the Buffalo Bills. He gets the start and the
first drive at of a little something like worth in
about a yard, Trabisky pitches out left side motor singletary,
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first town heads to the end doing and is he
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with the calls to Drawhisky leads him right down the field.
But it couldn't be better than next drive, right, guys, right? Uh,
it couldn't have possibly been better? Yeah, accept it as
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Mitchell Trubisky has just hit Jake Kumero in the end zone.
Thirteen nothing, Now Buffalo with a lead over Chicago, three
minutes to play in the first quarter. Mitchell Trubisky twelve
of seventeen a hundred and thirteen yards and what touchdown
already there in the first quarter. Bears fans are really
excited to have Andy Dalton starting today. I'm sure of it. Uh.
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Ten NFL preseason games on the schedule, did you okay? Well?
I heard well, I was trying to I was trying
to make it something. Uh. Major League Baseball action. Two
games on the field right now, Tampa Bay hosting the
White Sox, battle of first place teams and Wander Franco
and rb I double and Brandon Lowe a two run double.
(30:03):
The Rays with a three nothing lead over the White
Sox Chicago Now batting in the second inning Minnesota and
the Yankees their scoreless in the second inning as well,
so we sent it back it is on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
that was a winner. That was a winner. That's what
(30:23):
That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, bring that energy. Alright, alright,
so let's let's shift gears here, guys, and and let's
go to Green Bay and let's talk about one Jordan Love.
He's been the biggest story out of Green Bay training
camp since having the shoulder injury Fellas. Now, to me,
this is this is all playing into the mad Scientists,
(30:43):
the evil scientists, his conspiracy theories created, and what he
wants to get done through hostile takeover. Uh, you know,
I'm just I'm curious he you know, coach la Floor
says he's he's basically unlikely to play Jordan Love in
this game against the Jets today. And we all know,
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or at least I would assume knowing that that Aaron
Rodgers is not going to take or reportedly isn't going
to take any snaps. Which that's crazy, right, because it's like,
if Jordan Love plays, he's got to play well to
show that they can move on without Aaron Rodgers. It
totally debunks what Aaron Rodgers is doing. If Jordan Love
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has a spectacular preseason, but now you have an Aaron
Rodgers that is allowing for Jordan's Love to show what
he is or what he isn't and an injury takes place,
and now Jordan Love won't be playing uh today in
this game, which I would assume because the preseason is
shorter and the regular season is longer. This is is
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what we saw out of at least New England. This
game is probably the dress rehearsal game. This is the
game where they probably pair as if it was a
regular season game and and actually do a scout report
somewhat of a scouting report approached the game from the
standpoint of it being a regular game week. So with
that being said, guys, what does this mean for Jordan's
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Love not being able to play due to health and
what is your take on it as to how it
applies to the overall landscape of what this Green Bay
Packers team needs to be thinking moving forward and how
does that play out like however you want to relate it.
If if it's to Aaron Rodgers, if it's to Jordan's Love,
if it's to my job as a front office guy,
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how does that play out? I mean, for for the Packers,
I'm sure there damn. He finally gets a chance to play,
he looks pretty good, goes down with the energy. Okay,
it's not that bad. But man, you can't play a
second game type of thing. I'm sure. Man. You know,
these coaches are talking amongst each other and they're saying,
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I can't trust him, I can't trust this. And that's
just the reality of it. Man, that's what goes on
behind the scenes. Now. Coaches talk really bad. Let me
put this out there to everybody out there and that
doesn't that does not know football culture, football culture, coaches, scouts, gms,
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even sometimes medical staff. They talk. I mean, if you
could hear some of the things they say about players
behind closed doors, Uh, it would mortify you to think that. Wait,
you guys are coaching these people, do I mean, do
you think that these people matter to you? Like you
would come to so many weird ass conclusions as to
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what the dynamic and the relationships are between these people
by the way you hear them speak of players. So
go ahead, good with that being said, go ahead, No,
And I noticed this. Plaques probably noticed it as well.
When you do that internship and you sit in on
the meetings, oh my good, you'd be like wait, wait,
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wait wait, I'll never forget it. Man. The first time
I was sitting in the back of the meeting and
one of the coaches were like, yeah, that's how we
used to talk about y'all because I knew that. I
was thinking they knew I was thinking it, like damn,
this is how y'all talk about us like some dogs. Man,
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like you are a piece of meat. If you cannot
help me, h, I have no use for you. And
that's basically what it is with George Love like, if
you can help him, they are in your corner, and
if you cannot, they have no use for you. So
Jordan Love Bro, you better get healthy because all they
want you to do is show him you can consistently
do with it game in and game out. But how
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much time? But how much time? Does he have? Much? Problem?
Is he has one more game? I mean, is that enough?
It's gonna have to be enough for Green Bay. If
Aaron Rodgers says he wants out, they have no choice now.
But what if Aaron Rodgers doesn't want out? What if
Aaron Rodgers is using this as the ability to be
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able to have more leverage where I'm sure that's something
we'll find out when the season is over, but I
believe this is gonna be Aaron rodgers last season. Look
at this is not a good situation for for Jordan's Love.
Number one, the evaluation period for Jordan's Love was this
preseason for the green Bay Packers. That was the evaluation
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period for him as being the next quarterback if Aaron
Rodgers choose to leave Green Bay. So now they don't
get a chance to evaluate them. So, uh, Aaron Rodgers
is not going to play this preseason, you get your
third three quarterback Kurt b ben Kirk taking all the
steps for an entire game. That does the green Bay
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Packers no justice that that doesn't help them in any
way shape or for him because he's not even on
the radar for being a quarterback for in the quarterback
for this team, so it doesn't help him in any way.
But what it does do for Aaron Rodgers and in
the Green Bay organization and say, look, you know we're
gonna make you the highest paid player, highest player player
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and quarterback in all the football if you want to stay.
If they're unsure about Jordan's Love, listen, only they know
what what caliber player Jordan's Love is. All we do
is get to see, you know, him perform in the preseason.
We haven't even seen that. We saw one game, so
only they know. We don't know what he's capable of
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doing them because he sat out all sixteen games last year,
didn't dress, and now he gets an opportunity to play
and he's hurt. With the short preseason, I don't think
he's gonna play in the third preseason game because they
don't want to risk him for further injury. So what
does that leave you with Jordan Love? Because you know
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game one, he's not gonna play the entire season unless
Rodgers gets hurt, he goes down, or you're beating somebody
thirty affoided in zero. Those are the only times that
you're gonna get to see him played. Because now his
evaluation period was this preseason and now they don't even
have that and you get your third quarterback, third s
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three quarterback taking all the rest for the preseason. That
does nothing for anybody. So Jordan Love is not a
good situation for him. It gives it puts Aaron just
in a place to where he doesn't have to leave.
You can renegotiate Davante Adams contract because now Aaron Rodgers staying.
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Obviously that's who he wants to play with because he
didn't take a long term crime track with the Patriots,
I mean with with the Packers. So if that happens,
everybody is healthy. And if you make Aaron Rodders the
highest paid quarterback or in the highest played player and
uh annually or whatever the salaries, maybe I think he'll
stay in Green Bay. But other than that, Jordan's love,
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we just don't know he's capable of doing because he
didn't play. And I think this totally disrupts what what
the front office was hoping to take place for for
them in terms of their job security, their their reputations,
their credibility. Aaron Rodgers basically called out the front office
and said that they're not running this organization the right way.
They don't know what they're doing. I am Green Bay.
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People come here for Aaron Rodgers. Tell me I'm wrong.
And then with that being with that being made clear
with his interview, he has not done any real interviews
of real substance with information. Since and isn't playing in
the preseason, this could have very much so played in
the hands and then the favor of Green Bay and
what's taking place and now this Jordan Love is not
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able to validate what these guys in the front office
have done. In fact, it could go towards validating what
Aaron Rodgers had to say. This is an interesting topic.
It will continue to come up, will continue to be
here top about it as it unfolds. But next Andy Dalton, Huh,
he had some very interesting things to say. Uh. Some
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was connected to Justin Fields, but more so connected to him.
We'll get into that and more. You're listening to Up
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let me tell you something he had, Uh, cars that well,
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They were just cars that well, no one else had.
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J drives around the same exact way now me on
the other hand, Um, well, you know, I don't drive
it as high as them. But anyway, that's I digressed
that that was L L Cool J L L. Plexico Burr's. Uh.
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best high school football out here? Oh? Man, well that
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it would pay, It would pain me. Miami Central High
School just came out here and got their butts whooped.
They played football out here in Kylie. I ain't gonna
like god they butt whooped last night by the Saint
John Bosco Braves. Well. St. John's Bosco is. Uh, they're
right up there with with modern day now in terms
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of just pure dominance. So it wasn't even the game
you know, don't Bush from Miami Central thought they was
coming out here to win. They got their butts handed
to him. Uh you know, we played St. Joseph's, who
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My babies that that are there snapped out. So I'm
I'm if you can hear any type of uh anything
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in my voice where it may look like or sound
as though, uh my vocal courts are damaged. Well, um,
I was doing a whole lot of screaming yesterday. But yeah,
let's let's uh, let's look, let's it's a it's a
short segment and we're we're heading to the top of
the hours. It's it's been an amazing first hour talking
about Jalen hurts Um dancing his way to the hospital. Uh,
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Jordan loves health issues and what that means for Green
Bay and Aaron Rodgers and everything that's going on there. Uh.
The next thing that I want to touch on, and
I'll kind of get just a quick one too from y'all,
but we'll we'll start off the next hour with it
is well, we have some interesting comments from Andy Dalton.
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I will make sure that you hear the sound at
the top of the hour, but for now, Uh, Andy
Dalton basically had some very interesting things to say about
about the quarterback situation in Chicago just before we before
we get to those comments at the top of the hour,
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just super quickly. I mean, do you feel confident about
Andy Dalton being the starter? Fellas? Man? Andy dog, I
can't believe he said that. And you know, and it's
it's my time now, like bro, really you ain't got
no time. Your time is expired, your omr owd time,
bor old time, come home. Man, I don't do ccinetti bravardo.
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You know, they just walking around. They stumpled towels and
that's what That's just what they do. And that's just
that I can't figure it out why, but they just
have a certain bravado about them. And uh, it's not
as time though, but we'll get into that. We'll get
into that. You know, when we come back, we certainly
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will get into that. Andy Doult had some words to
say and he made sure he in included justin fields
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