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LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress react live to the huge matchup between Ohio State and Michigan and discuss what the game means for Jim Harbaugh. Will a playoff appearance for Cincinnati change the future of the program and the Big-12? LaVar chats with Mack Strong and the guys celebrate the significance of classic fullbacks in this edition of A Legendary Moment. Plus, the guys make their picks for the biggest games of the week!

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fresh works dot com. You want NFL experience, then this
is the show for you. This is up on game
with LaVar Ai, Ted t, J. Hush Manzana and Plaxico Burress.
Did you hear that LaVar Arrington, t J Hodgmanzana, Plexico

(01:29):
burs It's a show with three of the best to
ever do it on and off the field. And now
here's pro bowlers LaVar Aeri, tent T, J. Houshman, Sanna
and super bowled champion Plaxico Burress. All right, welcome back
into our two. If you were here for our one,

(01:50):
you appreciate you being here. If you're just joining us
right now, we appreciate your coming in right now. A
lot of great games on right now. Looking at this
Ohio State Michigan game, it's three seven guys, Michigan is
up and you know the weather. The weather seems to
be playing a part. Interesting is snowing and snowing and
an harbor. So we'll get to that because I would

(02:12):
love to know what your guys opining in is on
if Harball wins versus if he loses this game in
today and seemingly his best opportunity since being there to
the beat Ohio State. All right, Also, we got up
on game down, on game my man Ryan Burston girty,
he'll take us through it and we'll knock that thing
out as well. You know, obviously I am the master

(02:33):
of disaster when it comes to uh making these picks,
you know, t J and and Plex saying no chance
when it comes down to head to head, who's doing
the right picks and all that stuff. You see that
you'll experience that on your own. Plex, t J. How
y'all feeling, man? How how the turkey? Like? Did any
of y'all cook? Plex thinks he's a better cook than me.
I don't know. Actually, I think I think we might

(02:53):
have to figure out what. I think we might have
to do a cook off on one our our live
events at some point. Uh man, you don't have to
talking about it. Thanksgiving, what's great for me? Did not cook?
That's just not You don't have to cook. You don't
have to cook. I've I've been around your family. You
you get to just sit around and say what you

(03:14):
don't eat in your entire life in existence? You know, Yeah,
my wife avocados. Yeah, I don't cook, But I I
know Plex was out there getting this turkey ready. Yeah, man,
you know what I didn't cook as much as this ship.
All I did was really just fries curlier because we
had so many people over. They listen, I'm not cooking
for no tri or thirteen people. Man, I don't do

(03:35):
it like that, you know. I like to cooking intimate settings,
you know five, you know, four or five people, but
not because you can't get the same quality when you
cook for more, like like people standing over the stove.
Man cooking all day. Man, that ain't no fun. You know,
you want to enjoy your holiday, you know what I mean?
I could I could say, well, I'm gonna give Trips

(03:55):
all the trish, all the properties in my cred because
for as much as I do, she did do the
uh she didn't do the mill this year, and it
was well, she does it every year. But she made
some some uh some corn bread this year, bro, and
she was like, man, I don't know if it's going
to turn out right this and that it turned out
to be the best part of the entire dip. Man.
I mean it it had corn in it, it had

(04:17):
I don't even know what else it had in it,
But the joint was like it was like eating a
piece of cake, you know what. I mean, yeah it was.
It was pretty good man, and I really enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know sometimes you eat like what you how long
how long y'all left over? How long y'all he left over? Uh?
I eat them until they're done, damn plex you old

(04:38):
booge dude, Man, you're done Saturday, you know, until it's gone.
I'll have the day after. But after the day after, man,
it's just I just can't. So you know, obviously things
Giving was Thursday, and then I flew to Cincinnati to
watch us beat the Steelers. So that's where I'm at now.
So when so when I get home tomorrow, I'm eating

(05:01):
that Thanksgiving I'm eating. Yeah, I ain't really get to
enjoy it, man, the way I wanted to. Yeah, So yeah,
I gotta them color green's not maybe not that, but
the yams, that macaroni and cheese, and that fried turkey
and gumbo. I mean that, oh the gumbo. You the gumbo,
and my wife made gumbo. Every every gumbo is better

(05:21):
every other day, Like the older gumbo gets, the better
it is right before it gets bad. But I mean
there's a cap on it. You know, there's a cat.
There's a cat but what I'm saying is those that
was spices to send to settle in. It tastes butter
like the next probably out of luck. I might be
out of luck. I ain't on the Thursday, so now
I might be out of luck this year. I really

(05:43):
love you. If your wife really loves you, man ship,
that's that's that. That's that bougie stuff, and that's what
you tell them, if you really love me, make some more.
I guess you ain't getting the is Hey, none of
us came from that. And speaking of not coming from that,
let's have a conversation with a legend. Man up on

(06:05):
game presents conversations with a legend. Check it out Max
Strong Game Game presents conversations with a legend. And now
this is your legendary moment. I hit you with one
last deal. Two thousand five was coming you taking his

(06:37):
head off of this right to two thousand five was
the first time and the only time I played, and
now I made it to the playoffs on the team
that made it to the playoffs twice. But this was
the first time that our team, team that I was on,

(07:00):
made it to the playoffs second round. We beat Tampa
Bay in Tampa Bay. We traveled the Washington team travels
to Seattle, and all I could think about was, I
am going to assassinate I am going to end it

(07:23):
for Sean Alexander, and we're gonna win this game. I
am going to destroy my litter mate and We're gonna
win this game. We get into the game and I
helped my end of the bargain up. I knocked your

(07:45):
baby smack. Man. He was glossy. He was glossy for
two days after that game. Man, I knocked him knock
out and here comes your ass? What what what was
it like? That was? I mean, just take me through it,

(08:09):
because you were the difference in the game. Man. You
know that. I appreciate you saying that, but it was
the truth. We uh well, I had to. I had
to had to one long run that that kind of
uh And it was actually it was actually the Locust

(08:30):
run and see how playoff history and two Beast Beast
Quake in two thousand, two thousand, Tien, I wasn't on
the field, by the way, they were playing stupid. They
was doing them dumb games. I was not on the
field when you made that run. They were playing all
those business man we were like, many, we can't block
all these people. Well let's just let's just run back
off Chacol and say, yeah, let's run back off Tacole.

(08:53):
See what happens. But when you get the the newly
crown NFL, you know too, thousand five m v P
knocked out early early so and um, but we we
really we rallied on the sideline. We're like, okay, guys,
this is just it's just another example of how we're

(09:16):
gonna rally, you know, how we can we need to
rally and overcome this adversity. And we were like, you know,
we don't know how we're gonna do it. We're gonna
do it bout committee because Shaw that he had a
heck of a year that year. Um, you know myself
at More Morris and and uh you know the rest
of the running backs. Man, we just did the best
we could. It wasn't any of them. Now, Yeah, you

(09:39):
want to hear the rest of that interview. Make sure
you check it out on the YouTube channel. It will
shortly be up on up on Game Presents. But man,
Max Strong, if you never heard of him, you need
to do some homework on one of the most underrated
fullbacks to play the game. Um played played hard, rand hard.
You know, just one of those things. Guys. I mean,

(10:01):
do y'all have any experiences or memories of Mac Jones?
I don't want you mean Max Strong, not Mac and Cheese.
Now you know what it is with Matt, Max Strong
and Lorenz O'Neill lass of a dime breed. Don't forget.
They don't. They don't really utilize the fullback the way

(10:23):
Mac was utilized, like certified had mangers. They don't. That's
not a part of the game. With football nowadays, the
fullback is in that sense a past catching fullback, you know,
a mismatch in the passing game more so than the
lead blocker in those type of things like Mac and

(10:48):
he's a big old boy. You know what's crazy about that?
That was my first um foray in the media. I
actually covered that game for NFL Network. Huh yeah, I
cover that game. Uh full down to Seattle and end
covered that game. But yeah, man, the way he played
it's car accident. Every play. That's what it was for him,

(11:11):
every play leading up for Sean Alexander taking on guys
like yourself, every single play it was. It was no
brain gets a thankless job. You don't get the credit
you deserve. You only will get uh picked on from
missing a block or doing this for that. But when
you make a good block, it's all next play. Yeah, man,

(11:31):
I gotta love my fullbacks. Man. You know, playing in
the NFL for twelve years, I played in our formation
style offense, so we always had a fullback on the
field for the first you know, two or three downs.
But you know, Max Strong's all those guys that you name,
man that the fullback in the NFL's a lost art.
It was one of those positions where everybody on that

(11:52):
football team had the ultimate respect for the fullback because
he was the guy that that you know, he highlighted
what the great running backs during that time we're about,
and they got none of the accolades. And then basically
lineman running down the field and dropping to him with

(12:12):
the linebackers and in defense alignment hard as they can.
Just so the running backs, Cashine man, So peace to
all the great fullbacks out there. Indeed, I'll tell you
what was was Whitman in Pittsburgh when you were there? Yeah?
Whoopen was in Pittsburgh? Danny Kreiter. I played up and
uh in in in New Jersey. But yeah, man, jeez. Yeah,

(12:37):
well it is the last of a dying breed. And
if you want to get more, like we said, make
sure you check out mac max Strong on the YouTube
channel for up on Game. I mean, this is it's
just been so amazing, uh talking to these legends and
getting the opportunity to hear their stories. Um, yeah, it's
been great. So we we got a lot on the

(12:58):
other side of this. We're winding down on top. But
I tell you what, We've got some things that we
need to get to. Uh, I want, I wanna, you know,
I want to make sure we we talked about this
hardball situation with with Michigan and then obviously we need
to jump on the up on game or down on
game train. So let's take a quick break. But before

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We'll talk a little bit about this Ohio State Michigan
game right now Ohio State has taken the lead. It's
ten seven. What does this mean for hardball coming out

(14:45):
of this? This was your song LaVar when you was playing. Yeah, well,
I'm just saying I had I just had that DJ
in my basement and and a whole lot of other things,
and and well, you know, I don't know how. I
don't know how weather additions could get so bad at
somebody's basement, but I found a way too. Anyway, you're
listening up on game, and that's t J. Houss out

(15:07):
of plexic. Eric. I'll just keep talking so we could
keep listening to dip dip you dip, we dip everybody
dip dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip, dip,
dip dip. There was a whole lot of dipping, by
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(17:58):
y'all failing about that? Man? Mean, it's pretty cool. I
love it. Man. You gotta keep it going. That means
we're approaching a year. It's time of being on air
doing this show. Right, next week I believe would be
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(18:20):
December last year. That could be right. We gotta look
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year's time. I mean, time flies when you're having fun.
I mean, I gotta tell you, guys, I have truly
enjoyed doing the show with you guys. Man, I mean,
you guys are like really dope personalities, man, really good
like it's really oh yeah already wow, jeez, it's good stuff.

(18:44):
It's pretty good man. And And speaking of good stuff,
we got a good game going on in and arbor
right now. And well it's ten seven and and Michigan
seemingly is well trying to get back down the field.
I mean that they're playing some aggressive football. What I
like to see, even though it's snowing, is that Michigan

(19:05):
is not playing a passive style of football. They really
are trying to to get after Ohio State. Um, you
guys can can tackle this one. Um, knowing that that
that Ohio State has so many good receivers, which, by
the way, none of them were up for the blinnakoff,
which I thought was pretty interesting. You guys, if you

(19:26):
want to, I don't. I don't get that one up.
That makes no sense. All three of them should be
up and Johann Dotson wasn't up for it either. But anyways,
I digress. Well, what what what has to happen for
Michigan to be able to win this game? Guys, and
we'll start let's start right there. Anything Oh okay, I'll

(19:51):
be honest, man. When when I look at this, it's
almost everything has to go Michigan's way to win. When
and you look at hardball hasn't beaten Michigan. Harborning hardball
don't had the players to beat Michigan. If hardball I
mean hardball doesn't have the players to beat Ohio State.

(20:11):
If Hardball is able to beat Ohio State, that means
he tremendously outcoached Ryan Day. They've been out coached. If
Ohio State loses his game, Ohio State is better at
every position, every position. C J. Stroud has almost as
many completions as Kate McNamara has attempts on the season.

(20:33):
Ohio State is a better football team at every single position.
Michigan should not win. I don't expect them to win.
And people need to get off hardballs back. You're not
beating the team with the type of talent that Ohio
State has if you're at Michigan, but Migan and they

(20:56):
should be able to recruit justice. Look at the NFL
Draft and you tell me where Michigan guys are getting drafted.
You tell me where a House state guys are getting drafted.
But I hear what you're saying. But shouldn't you be
on hardballs back? If if Ryan Day is able to
out recruit uh Jim Harball, there's something that's something you're
talking are talking is a premier destination? Yes it is,

(21:23):
But Michigan historically, the kids of today, you know they're
not going to Michigan. They're going to Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia,
l s U. Those are the schools are going to. Yeah,
Michigan is the lit top five program. I agree that.
I agree with that, But there's still the pageantry and

(21:43):
the historic value of what it is to go to
a school. Do you think the kids of today care
about historical in this? And here's the thing, guys, that's
why you bring in a guy like Jim Harball so
that he can use those those tools. I mean, what
did Dabbo have to do to make clem Clempson has
always been a really good team. They didn't turn into

(22:05):
this perennial power until you know this decade, you know,
And so when you think about that, what are what
is Michigan? Michigan has just as much built up equity
to be able to leverage that to become a power
like those those ones we just named not happening. Okay,
So that that has to then that has to fall

(22:26):
on hardball, right because we have the fall It doesn't
have to fall on hardballs about where the kids want
to go. As far as Michigan is concerned, hardball has
been having trouble beating us and they mean everybody, Hey,
everybody that goes in Michigan said, we're not even the arrival.
How state is, Well, it's not a rival if you
didn't want a game in ten years, how's it a

(22:49):
rivalry game you're talking about? Uh, you know, getting the
recruits and players in the man, these guys are going
to Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, la As you all these destinations.
Michigan is no longer but those but those schools could
clearly fall into obscurity just like Michigan has. But you

(23:10):
gotta keep them from getting there. I mean, Michigan is
having a good year this year. When you when you
watch television, what schools are you seeing on TV? It's
the SEC schools in Clemson, Ohio State and Soldier SEC

(23:30):
schools and everything else. And then you look at Clemson
and in Ohio and that's where these kids want to
go to school at Michigan. For when we were growing up,
Oh yeah, the history and things of that nature. But
the kids today and I forgot, you gotta throw Oklahoma
in there also that that's where these kids want to
go to school at. And nothing but Oklahoma they send there. Michigan.

(23:57):
You cannot understand why when you talking, when you're talking
to Oklahoma and the first round draft picks every year
every year, Michigan to get a first round pick every
blue now Oklahoma, Clemson, Alabama, l s U, Georgia every
single year, Ohio State first round picks every single year.

(24:21):
A lot of these guys are a lot of the
guys going to these power five schools. A lot of
the guys are going to these power five schools Georgia, Clempson, Texas, Oklahoma.
A lot of these guys are staying in state. Now
they're they're not they're not leaving you know, Texas to
go to Michigan anymore. That used to be, that was
the case to ten, fifteen years ago. Now now Michigan

(24:43):
is getting the kids from Michigan. Guys from you know,
Virginia and North Carolina are no longer you know, going
in Michigan just because the history round. They're coming to
outs or going to Ohio State. So that's not all
the way true. Yeah, we're not going out miss is
what I'm saying. Well, I mean that's fair, but Michigan
has to figure out how to solve that that situation.

(25:06):
We don't have the allure and in order to bring
back what you're talking about, LaVar, he's gonna have to
go get better recruiters. So do you sacrifice the coaching
and the teaching for recruiting. You have to have a
happy medium. Uh oh. He might not be a great

(25:26):
coaching teacher, but he can recruit his tail off and
vice versus. What if they win today? What if they
want to hold on? Hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on No, no, no, no, no, no no. Let's
let's get an update, because I don't want I don't
want to cut you short. I want you to hold
your thoughts and coming out of update, I want you
to answer the question, what if they win today? Was

(25:48):
that mean for Michigan? Wasn't meaning for for for Jim Harball?
But first let's go to Ralph Irving. Let's get a trending.
Let's calm down, Let's let Ralph get this this this
information out there. What you got, Ralph? Thank you? Lav Errands? Yes, yes, no,
what's you got? Well, we've got hats on Haskins, touchdown,
plunge and yeah, Michigan has just taken the lead. Number

(26:10):
five Michigan a thirteen ten lead over number two Ohio
State p a t still to come four oh six
to play in the first half. Meanwhile, Number one Georgia
doing whatever it wants with Georgia Tech twenty four nothing.
The Bulldogs have the lead in that contest. They are
at the half and number eight Baylord in golf fake that, No,

(26:31):
he did end it off. Abram Smith is in for
the touchdown. Abrahm Smith runs it in his twelve the
rushing touchdown of the season. That's John Morris from lear
Field at the half. Number eight Baylor seventeen ten over
Texas Tech. There's ten seconds left in the first half.
Number eighteen Wake Forest while they're having a day ten

(26:53):
they lead Boston College. The Deacons, well, they need a
win to reach that a c C Championship game. They're
on their way there to play in the first half.
Number twenty four Houston a fourteen seven lead over Connecticut.
The Cougars are going to the American Conference Championship game.
They'll take on Cincinnati next week. No matter what happens

(27:14):
in this game, but they don't want to lose momentum.
The extra point is good. Number five Michigan now a
fourteen tenant lead over Ohio State. And one thing to
keep in mind, guys, because I've been inside that situation.
Let's just say that the academic requirements to get into
one school are not the same as they are others,
and that is a factor. That is a fact. As

(27:36):
I sent it back to come on, hub On, Yeah yeah,
I like that. Like that robe, but that was more
that was more cap than k manage than than usual.
And I liked it. I liked the base. That was
my gotta mix it up sometimes. Yeah, yeah, you switched

(27:59):
it up on it. I liked that. I like that.
All right, So go ahead, go ahead, Plex you're about
to say, go ahead, I hope you kept your thought.
For for Ohio State to lose his football game the day,
everything has to go exactly wrong for them to lose
his football game, I'm not saying I'm not saying that
because everybody knows my Michigan hater that there is no
behind that. But but what I'm trying to say is

(28:21):
Ohio State has premier talent at every position, and you're
talking about three of the best college wide receivers in
all of football. For for Michigan to be able to
go out and cover these guys and shut this offensive
down trade Yon Henderson and this offense c J. Stroud.
I just don't see that happen. I don't think they

(28:42):
have the team to do it. But anything can happen
in this kind of weather, in these kind of games.
But for Michigan to go out and win this football
game today, it's just something that you just don't see
happening in unless ohow States you get an injury or
turnover was or whatever the case may be. But for

(29:02):
how State the loses football again, and I just don't
see it happening. Can I tell you, guys, why those
schools you named or the schools that everybody wants to
go to, I'm gonna tell you because they're play in
the playoff. Everybody's trying to get to a school that's
gonna make it to a playoff. So Michigan doesn't make
it to the playoff. Ohio State does, Ohio State does

(29:25):
l s U? Does? Georgia does? Alabama does? Clemson does?
All those teams you're naming, they make it to the
College Football Playoff. And so to me, when I look
at how you're able to recruit, why this game is
so big for Michigan and it's so big for for
Hardball is if he wins the Big Ten, which, by
the way, if if by some stroke of faith they

(29:47):
are able to actually win this game and they make
it out of this game, they still got to go
to the Big Ten Championship. And when that which you're
gonna probably see the Wisconsin Badgers playing that game, that's
gonna be a tough that's gonna be a tough hill
to climb. Not because Wisconsin is the best team in
the Big Ten, because the Big Ten Conference always has

(30:08):
that trap game where a team like Wisconsin will win
against a team like Michigan in a Big Ten championship game.
That's just historically how it goes. Trap game. So so
to me, the way that Hardball is able to maintain
things is one he's got to get out of this
game if he wins this game. I don't think he

(30:29):
loses his job if he loses, but I do think
that the clock is definitely take athletes that Ohio State,
but the Ohio State. But he's got to start bringing
in the type of talent that's going to lead to
them beating Ohio State. There's only there's only there's probably

(30:50):
two teams and maybe three there's three, there's there's Penn State,
there's there's Michigan State, and there's Michigan. Where you're saying,
on that side of the of the bracket, you gotta
load up to be able to be competitive with Ohio State.
Right now, for what is worth, Penn State is the
only team that's really given Ohio State a run for

(31:10):
their money. If you think about it, we're a step
out of bound, step back in bounce catching touchdown away
from beating Ohio State. We have always been right there
on being able to beat Ohio State. So we're knocking
on the door at being able to beat Ohio State.
I think Michigan has to show it. Michigan State has
to show that they can do that now. They just
gave Mail that ten year deal for for Michigan State,

(31:33):
which means that they feel as though what Mail is
doing in Michigan is able to is able to take
them in the right direction. Now if you don't feel
that way, which by the way, they got thrashed before
the inc even really fully dried on that ten year contract.
They got thrashed by the team that they're trying to
catch up with, which is Ohio State. But now looking

(31:55):
at it from from the perspective, they still believe that
with a little bit of hime, Michigan State can trans
transition into the elite of of college teams. It can't
just be the elite of the Big Ten. It has
to be the elite of college teams, which means that
your ultimate goal has to be able to make it
into this college playoff. I believe if you can make

(32:15):
it into the college playoff, you can recruit better players.
If Cincinnati makes it into this college playoff, you watch
what I tell you, They're gonna get way more better
players than what they ever have. Oh yes they will,
Oh yes they will, because people are going to go
there with the anticipation that they're going to have the
opportunity to play much more than what they did. If

(32:37):
you got it, you gotta do it on a consistent basis.
You can't go, well, this is year three, this is
this will be year three, because you gotta think or
a year to excuse me, because last year they almost
beat Georgia. They were right there with Georgia in there
in their bowl game. So you can't sneeze at what
what Cincinnati has represented. They are transitioning, They are transitioning

(33:00):
the kids, these top recruits will want to go there.
They spend money. They spend many Cincinnati, but they spend money.
These kids want to be on TV. They want to
be on TV. And you know how you get on
TV by winning, by getting into being at a conference
that's on TV. Well that's fair too, that's fair too.

(33:22):
But they will recruits are turning down Power five schools
to go to Cincinnati just because they had a two
or three good seasons. I don't wanted to play stars.
I don't want to downplay star ratings. But but for
what it's worth, But that's what it's all about. But
you know what high school and college football is on
I get it. But for what it's worth, Cincinnati is

(33:45):
in the conversation of best football programs and teams in
the country and seeing for a birth. Okay, what you
gotta start somewhere. Why y'all putting dirt on this, this
pim putting I'm not picking is closer to where State
or Penn State right now that that was just the

(34:07):
last two years in states, that's just the last two years.
It's got to start somewhere. It's got to start somewhere, guys,
when you have elite quarterback, you can do a whole
lot of things and win a whole lot of football games.
Cincinnati's quarterback Desmond Ritter can play. They got a good

(34:28):
tight end is elite, they got they got pieces. But
to say that they can do this on a year end,
year out basis, that's how Clemson was able to start
to get the kids they were getting. They started to
put season after season together. Y'all do know since he's
joining the Big Twelve and Oklahoma Texas Oklahoma, you play Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

(34:57):
They are leaving in two years, okay years, so you
know what going join the Big Twelve to the best
two teams in the conference are leaving to go playing
a better conference. But they're gonna take over that Big
Twelve and they make more money. They're gonna be Yeah,
they will, They'll get more. I mean, if they're gonna
lose their coach, that they could keep the coach and

(35:18):
that's spending the money to keep that coach. I just
I just think that. I just think that when you
talk about and you think about what needs to happen
for Michigan, Michigan has everything, Like the money is going
to be different from Michigan and the Big Ten Conference
moving into the future just because of how much TV
time they get, how how important the conferences to to

(35:41):
everything that goes on in college football. So I mean
Michigan should be in a perfect situation to do what
they need to do. I mean that's you know what.
You know what I want to know. If you're Michigan,
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(36:02):
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to dominate you all guys in our picks. So, without
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(40:56):
for some picks. Are you up on game and let's
break this out black off? Alright, Yes, this is up
on Game down on game Fox Sports Radio. Let's take
a look first off at last week's picks, and you
guys all did decently well, decently well. He did the best.
LaVar and t J both of you guys did three

(41:17):
and two on your picks. Plaques went two and three
on his picks, and that's that's expected that Platus will
go to and three. I'm surprised that I wasn't one game,
at least one game better than TJ. But okay, let's
go then on your totals, LaVar, you went three and
two on totals. T J plaques you both went two
and three. Yeah, see there you go down and makes sense.
I'm just saying, I dominate this thing. Come on, let's

(41:39):
get this. Let's go, Let's get to it. Let's go,
let's go, let's go. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. First off,
we got a huge game of the a f C
North Steelers at Bengals. Bengals are favored here minus three
and a half over under his forty four. LaVar. We'll
start with you. Yeah, I'm going to take the under
on the point. Uh. But in in terms of the

(41:59):
game itself at three and you said three plus, they're
giving up three four f for the Bengals. Yeah for
the Bengals. Yeah, I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna take
Bengals and the points. I got the Bengals winning and
I got the Gang going over the Bengals on score points.
I'm going under fold to four, and I'm going with Pittsburgh.

(42:21):
Oh figures, all right, t J. Will start with you
on this next one bucket here at Colts Bucks are
favorite minus three here instant in Indianapolis. Over under is
fifty three. I'll take the under and I'll actually take
the Bucks. The Coats are running football team. The Bucks

(42:43):
have the number one run defense in the league. I'm
taking the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm going up for three
and I'm taking I'm taking Tampa Bay. I'm taking the
under on this and I'm taking the Colts. They can
run that ball, and they got a dope they got
a dope offensive front against that dope defensive front. But
I think that Jonathan Taylor is just too much right now,

(43:03):
especially with the balance that they've created on that offense.
So yeah, I'm gonna take the Coats to win this
one straight up. Alright. Next up here, another huge game
in the a f C with the Titans a continue
to get banged up. A. J. Brown placed on i
R today Titans at Patriots Patriots favorite minus seven over
under his forty three and a half. Blacks. We'll start

(43:23):
with you. I'm taking under forty seven and a half
running Tannehill is gonna be fourth to the football and
win football games, which we know he cannot do effectively.
For interceptions last week, No A. J. Brown, I'm taking
New England with the points and under what was under

(43:44):
forty three. I'm taking under forty three two on the
on the total points. But I'm gonna take Tennessee. I
still think Tennessee is a physical enough team to to
meet and match what's gonna happen with with the New
England Patriots. I think that they earth, they bring this,
this this amazing run taking place by the New England

(44:04):
Patriots to to a screeching hole. They're gonna slow him down.
I'll take it Tennessee for the winch straight up, I'm
taking the Patriots, and I'm gonna go over this the NFL. Man,
they can't get up forty three points together. Tennessee. Losing
their receivers is gonna be tough. They don't have no receivers.
They don't have Derrick Henry. You know what I'm going under.

(44:25):
But I'm taking the Patriots and under the Chick versus Rabel,
I'm going with Bill. Okay, Alright, we got the other
two teams in the n f C North, also battling
Brown's at Ravens. Ravens favorite minus three and a half
over under its forty seven. LaVar will start with you, Yeah,
I think this is gonna be an under as well.

(44:45):
But but here's the thing. Baltimore better beat Cleveland. I mean,
Cleveland is banged up more more specifically, Baker is just
fighting to to make it to this bye week, to
get a little more healthier than what he is right now.
I just don't think that Nick Chubb can do it
all by himself, and right now, seemingly he's the only
one that would be the catalyst of them winning. So

(45:06):
I'm taking under on the points, and I'm taking Baltimore. Yeah,
I'm taking the Baltimore Ravens. They got a great run defense.
That's what Cleveland wants to do. They're gonna force Baker
Mayfield to beat him. He's not gonna be able to.
And I'll take the over on the points. I see
Baltimore scoring a lot of points. I'm taking under on

(45:27):
the points. I'm going with Baltimore. I'm looking for Lamar
Jackson to get back on track. That defense has to
be able to stop the run, which I think they will.
You know, it's a there's a lot of pride over
them Baltimore on that defensive front, I think they're gonna
shut Cleveland run game down. I'm taking Under on the
points and I'm going with the Rabis. Alright, last one here,
will close this one out with the game of the

(45:48):
weekend Rams at Packers. Rams. Our favor now minus one
and a half over Under is forty seven. T J
will start with you. I'm taking the Los Angeles Rams.
You got David by dr he's still not back from
his A c L. Elkins is out now with the
torn A c L. They are going to terrorize Aaron Rodgers,

(46:08):
or they should terrorize Aaron Rodgers. I'm taking the Rams
and over. Yeah, I think you got to take into
consideration They're going into green Bay and this time of
the year, Uh them l A boys, they ain't gonna
want to see that that field too often. So I'm
taking the I'm taking green Bay in this one just
based off of the share uh idea that that the
weather is gonna be hard for them to overcome. This

(46:30):
is the time of the year where where Aaron Rodgers
does what he does best. I'm going with with the
the under on the points, and I'm going with the
Green Bay winning the game, the Ram traveling all the
way across country. I do not like going into the
mystique of Lambo Field. Just like the Boss said, the
Packers tend to play their best football this time of
the year, when it gets a little bit Chile. So

(46:53):
I'm going with the Packers and I'm going under on
the points, them a little, them a Rams. They can
get up there in that whether they're gonna shrivel up
all right, And that is up on game or down
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we appreciate it right. Make sure you check us out
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(47:14):
check it out. Tell a friend. It's been an awesome show.
So if you missed it, make sure you go check
that out. Enjoy the games today, enjoy your Sundays. A
lot of great games as we just detailed. Uh yeah, man,
I mean and today obviously you know, as as close
as we are as brothers, I will put that on
hold and we can be mortal enemies for at least
two to three hours to day Plexico birth, because I

(47:36):
want us to whoop that as So I'm sure you
feel the same way everybody out there, we're not paying
attention to Oregon State is playing today, so uh, I
guess there's no reason to throw TJ's team in the
mix other than to say that, Uh, how about we're
in a civil war against Oregon. Stop hating, Okay, civil
war against Oregon, and we're gonna beat them. Well, we're

(47:57):
gonna beat them. Penn State losing Okay to welcome, okay,
hassle back to Hayter. Yeah. Yeah, you guys have heard.
You know this is panteam man for for him, for
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