November 27, 2021 • 49 mins
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LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress react to a dramatic week on the court for LeBron James and explain why they support LeBron's efforts to remove unruly fans from games. The guys explain why Matt Nagy's win over the Lions made no difference in him inevitably losing his job. Plus, James Jackson joins to put the struggling Cowboys On Ya Head!
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with LaVar Ai, Ted, t J, hush Manzana and Plaxico Burres.
Did you hear that? LaVar Arrington, t J Hodgmanzana, Plexico burs.
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It's a show with three of the best to ever
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pro bowlers Lavarrei, tent t J, Hushman, Sanna and super
Bowled champion Plaxico Burress. All right, Happy Saturday to everybody
out there, Welcome into another show of Up on Game?
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Got the crew? Whitman, what's up? Pollas? Got t J?
Who that place? Pant Strong? What? What? What's going on
with the super Friends? Man? How y'all feeling the day? Man?
I was Turkey day. Your belly like the belly feeling good?
Who's gonna be feeling the best after that takes place?
That's what I wanted. We are heading to head today, Yeah, head, Yeah,
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I'm little talking is the favorite though, that's crazy, They're favorite.
Malay were coming up. We came up with bad loss.
We came up with bad loss last week. We are
definitely going out and in tremendous fashion today, no doubt
about it. One. Oh, that's interesting. All right, I already
know what's gonna happen, well as you can hear from
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the lathered and warmed up stretched armstrong Plexico birds himself. Uh,
it is a football Saturday, a college saturday. We have
no idea who Oregon State is playing, but that's okay. Um, well,
we'll talk about other games that are going on, mainly
the big game between Michigan and Ohio as being labeled
and tagged as the game did you did you like? That?
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Is Oregon State? Oh? S U two? Are y'all? O
s U? Yeah? We are you wow? Hey we one
thing is certain. If we play right now, we walcome,
we walcome. I believe it, co Burst, I believe if
you believe that, then you'll be shocked and ashamed of
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what your team does today once they play against them. Lines.
That's all I'm gonna say. Roll the balls out, let's
rumble talking about a good day of football games, some
really good games on it is, some good matchups today.
Baylor is gonna have to do what they do. Georgia.
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I don't know Georgia Tech is gonna give them anything,
but well yeah, yeah, we'll see. But yeah, let's get
to it, guys. We got a whole lot to get
to Uh. As we talked about college what touch on
college playoffs? We also will touch on Uh well Lebron.
You know, I know that that's your team, t J.
I know that Lebron James is the beloved one. We
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want to be careful, at least I will want to
be careful. I don't want to get caught up in
the cancel culture. You know, people come for you when
you talk about certain people. But I got some opinions
on Lebron. Uh, So we gotta we gotta jam pack
pack show for you. We got legendary moments coming up.
Uh we got up on game down on games, so
that would be good. But oh yeah, oh yeah. That
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that that one segment we do where um we get
on your head. Well, we got our man, James Jackson
in the house today, so let's get to it. It's
I'm on your hand with James Jackson, all right, young pup.
I mean you be on their heads. There's a lot
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of recipients that could be receiving this. I'm interested and
excited to hear. Welcome into the show, and well, let
us know what you got j J. Yes, sir and
assir that you guys, welcome back to another episode I'm
on your Head, presented by the up on Game That
One and Fox Sports Radio. You guys know what I do, LaVar,
You're right, there's a couple of teams that I could
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really get on this week. And and for me to
call you out, you don't have to be struggling from
from start to finish, right. You can start hot and
have a struggling a couple of weeks. I'm just still
gonna be right at that front door ready to let
you know. So with that being said, it's the Dallas Cowboys.
I'm on your hand. Yeah, somebody better go check on
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skip over there because then, boys, they're struggling right now.
They're butting teams coming to journy Wald to shut down all.
The Ride lost three of their last four games, including
two of those losses being at home. And by the way,
the one win in that stretch is the Atlanta Falcon,
so I don't give them much credit for that. But listen, y'all,
here's here's why I'm really mad. Because the Cowboys playing
the lone Star state. Correct, but they're supposed to be
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the lone Star of this NFC each division and here
they go giving the Eagles life with them being only
two games out of the division lead, and the NFC
least has been given to them on a silver platter
for a couple of years. Now, You've got coming into
this season, Legals having a first year starting quarterback in
the first year head coach Washington, loses their best player
midway through the season, and the Giants are who the
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Giants are, right, so I don't really see why they
got any reason the Cowboys should struggle down the stretch
to win this division. And wait, wait, LaVar plex t J,
I need you guys to answer something for me, because
I don't know if you guys are made the same
observation as me. The Vico on a diet someone because
because because he's not eating like he used to, he's
only got to one hard yard rushing games this season,
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and the last three games, man, he struggled to even
get the fifty yards rushing. And you guys know the
type of back cup that Zeke is coming into the season.
That's shaky, baby, can't shaky. We can't have that. And
I've heard a lot of excuses coming out of the
Dallas Cowboys camp. Right. Oh, we lost to a good
team in the Chiefs. Oh, the Raiders are a playoff
team and that game went to over time. And look
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for a franchise that hasn't want to super bowing over
two decades. I get that they want to hang on
to moral victories, but I don't. So I'm on your head.
Mm they beat the Vikings, guys, I mean, what what
what are y'all feeling? I got? I got, I got
a lot of questions marks myself hanging over my head
with with Dallas. The only question I don't have is
how good Michael Parsons is, which I've told you all
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this from day one. He is the dude. I've told
you all. He's a goblin amongst goons. Y'all wanted to
make fun of me, now, y'all eating crow. We didn't
make fun of you made fun of me, like especially
t J, especially you. T J like he does is
talking about Micah Michael. I know that we're talking about
When I first saw him. Two guys, what I tell
you saw him? And oh wait what I tell you said?
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And who the two to the pield Plex And I
was like they working out in l A with their
shirts off from like who the big old dudes? Then
they started running and you know that was the radio version.
You know, you know what t J really said now more?
You know what I mean? Hey, but talk with James
talking about you. You got at least the Cowboys are
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not the team that I thought they would be considering
how they've been playing. But this is what I will say,
Marie Cooper Ceedee Lamb did not play. The Raiders played
a lot of man and man coverage. Those receivers just
couldn't get open. They couldn't get they couldn't get open.
One thing a Marie Cooper will do is beat press coverage.
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He's going to get open. And so if he's playing
two things happen. They win or they stopped playing defense
the way they're playing it, which I don't understand. And
this is the biggest problem I have with coaches. Anthony
Brown showed you he didn't understand how to rest recalling
the game. He showed you he couldn't play press, and
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you kept him impressed all game. Making adjustment for your
player if he's not gonna make an adjustment for himself,
that's coaching. They did and do that, and so things
like that get overlooked. Though Anthony Brown had a bad game,
Yeah he did. His coach could have saved him because
you saw that he wasn't making that adjustment himself. And
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not sure. I do have one question to kind of
come back that I see, you know, the Cowboys playing
a lot of press coverage because of their best cornerback
on the other side, Trayvon Diggs. It's one of the
most you know, best ball hawking corners in the league.
Now do they not go away from that man to
man coverage because they know that that that is his specialty.
That's how he gets his turnovers and his in interceptions.
Because we talked about the top Michael Parsons creating all
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this pressure, got one of the you know leads, you know,
one of the league leaders and quarterback pressures this season.
That kind of one two tandem is how the Cowboys
have been creating turnovers. And you know, you know, and
LaVar Can attested as being a defensive player, you get
more interceptions playing zone than you do play man because
your eyes on the quarterback. So it would actually benefit
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Diggs if you they played more zone because he would
have eyes on the quarterback. And then instincts can really
take over. It's really hard to get interceptions and man
and man. So that's a tribute to how well he's
playing to be able to get those type of turnovers
in man coverage. Yeah, I would agree with that. You know,
you know what the crazy thing about the whole uh
you know, cornerback situation and Dallas. As far as Brown
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is concerned, teams are gonna do this for the rest
of the season whenever. Hey when yeah, when they catch
him and man and man coverage, teams are gonna throw
the football down the football field on him and force
him to play defense. And in his mind, he's going
to panic when the balls in there because all he's
thinking about now, you know what, I had four dprs
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last week. I cannot uh create another defensive pass interference.
And this is one of those things. Man. Once you
once teams put you on wax in that manner, teams
go against him next week. Hey, coach everything, throw me deep?
What all nine balls? And you're talking crazy. I'm talking
crazy to him to whole pre game May I'm having
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thinking about the Raider game, the whole game. Yeah, yeah,
he James on his head, yeah, and his air But
here's here's the thing, right, it ain't the defense. The
defense is not the problem. They are not the problem.
The d that that is that is based upon one
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time off of a lot of penalty. I felt like
there was a lot of assistance involved if you look
at if you if you look at what the defense
is doing, they have actually given this this Dallas team
the most consistency that they've had this season. This season,
it's the offense that's letting them down. The offense has
not been consistent. They have not been able to produce
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on on a consistent basis to give this team a
fair opportunity to win weekend and week out. You get
a quality win against the Vikings, then you go out
and you you you know, you you actually do things
like lose to you know, the Broncos. You know what
I mean, Like, okay, they got destroyed by the Broncos.
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And then if you think about the Chiefs game, we're
looking at what they say could possibly be a Super
Bowl matchup. Right, Okay, here's the problem with that super
Bowl matchup? Nine points not the Chiefs played them a
lot of man and man again. Okay, okay, but but
you're talking nineteen points for the Kansas City Chiefs. If
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your defense can hold Kansas City to nineteen points, you
tell me, y'all, y'all on the offensive side of the ball.
What do they say in the team meetings if you
can hold thank you. If you team under twenty, team
you should be winning the game. And so you hold
the Chiefs the nineteen and then the Raiders put up
a thirty piece. Yeah, you know, and I think that's
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a great question. I think it's Aaron Waller out of
the game early. Yeah. But here's the thing though, right
if you look at that game and how that panned out,
it's the two major quarters. The two major quarters in
the game are what the first and the third. The
first you get out there, you see what you can establish,
then you learn what you need to do. The third quarter,
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you get out there and you've adjusted and you've adapted
to what you needed to do. I had time, you
saw what you need, You know what they're doing and
what's coming your way, and you make it work. Four
Teen points, ten points first quarter, four teen points for
for the Raiders. Third quarter ten points. You know what
the Dallas Cowboys did in the in the first and
third six points that's two field goals, you know what
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I mean, that's two field goals and the most critical
times of the game. And then you get garbage time
four team, Like, I don't you know, I'm not really
with that. You know, I'm not really with that. That
garbage time four team was like that garbage time that
he was getting last year, speaking of Dock in his offense.
You get that four team late late in the game, like, okay,
you take it to O T I at it. I
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get it, but I just don't. I get it, but
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I know everybody's talked about it, but we're gonna have
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before we went to break, we we talked about Lebron
James and I know, a lot of people fall on
both sides of, you know, the Lebron James debate. I mean,
obviously you can't debate the greatness and the impact that
this man has had on the game, so that is
no reason for us to get off into that. But
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but with that being said, guys, I mean, with what
took place this week, you know, I just had an
interesting kind of perspective on how this all you know
played out panned out with Isaiah Stewart, And it was
interesting in the same game, in the same game you have,
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I believe it was the same game. Is that the
same game the fans got kicked out? Different game? Different?
The game is the game after? It was at the
Pacers game, right, So that was the game after so
after the suspension he wasn't able to play against the Knicks,
and then it was the following game, correct alright, So
so and in the situation where he gets into the
Isaiah um the Isaiah Stewart's situation, did we I mean,
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we didn't touch on that too much, did we. No,
we didn't touch on it. That hadn't happened, right, So
I'm trying not to to mix this up, but it
almost appears to me that Lebron sometimes gets caught up
into thinking that the rules apply to everyone else, or
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the code of conduct that that he was seeking applies
to everyone else, but it doesn't apply to him. And
I'm gonna touch on that. But but let's first, let's
let's take a listen to what Lebron had to say
about the fans that were in India and when they
played against the Pacers, and these these fans were actually
removed from the game at Lebron James's requests. So here's
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here was Lebron sound. I want to get your's opinion
on the other side of it about, you know, just
the Isaiah Stewart thing, how y'all felt that was handled
and you know where you fall on if it was
an accident, all that good stuff. But I also want
to understand, you know, something about Lebron in terms of
does he create a double standard that's different to him.
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So here's what he had to say about the fans
um that got got removed from the stadium at his request.
It's a difference between booing opponents and things of that
nature or not one of your opponents to be successful.
And then there's you know, moments where it goes outside
the line what I've seen gestures and words, and that
UM shouldn't be tolerating our game from nobody. UM. I
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would never say it to a fan, and a fan
should never said to a player. Okay, so let me
set the stage for y'all, because to me, he's right,
I agree with I agree that there should be a
line not drawn there. But I also understand that fans
are fans and and they're going to do things that
aren't logical because well they're fanatics. That doesn't justify what
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they do, but it also comes with being a part
of it. I've heard some of the most obscene, most
racially driven, most insensitive things said to me while I
was on the sideline. And yeah, you could get upset,
you could want to retaliate, you could have feelings about it.
But the one thing I never, I never really did,
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was allowed for somebody that's a spectator, that's not even
a part of what's going on, dictate to me in
that in that manner, in that regard. And now everybody
is different. You know, we saw Peters, you know, go
up and go up into the the stands and asked
to do where he was from. And I bet you
ain't gonna say that while I'm in your face. I
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personally don't subscribe to that that type of approach. But
do you guys agree with what Lebron had to say
about fans? And and just give us a reason why
I don't disagree with him. We're in two different sports.
You know, we played football. The fans are further away,
and when somebody is talking trash, we have to find
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them in the crowd. There's so many different on the
basketball court. When you're sitting courtside, it's right there. You
can constantly hear them, even when you're not in the game. Um,
from what out the fan, what they said was out
of line. If what I was told is correct, what
they said completely outline that that that's why they didn't
make a fuss about it when they got thrown out.
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It's just one of those things where so much emphasis
is now put on, oh, let's carry yourself the right way,
let's do the right thing. Oh we can't when I
don't know if you recall, it was earlier this year
and even last year when Russell Westbrook was getting into
it with fans that said courtside, some of them acting
titled because they're able to afford those seats. But then
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there's a flip side of it. If I'm a fan,
I want to talk trash to you, I want you
to lose a game. I want you to focus on
what I'm saying instead of a game. It's just a
fine line and I don't know where that line is.
But if what they said is true, they crossed it.
Hm Man. I think we spoke about this earlier this
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year when we were talking about football, and you know,
the fans you know, you know, overreact then and getting
out of character and saying things that they shouldn't be saying.
But at the end of the day is something you know,
they they put this we quote on quote professionals, but
at the same time, we're still human beings. And I
think that's the part that a lot of the fans, uh,
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you know, lose loose, loose fact of But we when
you start talking about this whole uh is the double
standard for Lebronze and I think we all know that.
And there's been several things that has happened over the
last you know year, the whole you know, promoting of
the of the tequila brand that goes against the COVID
protocols and the and the whole COVID and how they
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addressed this situation. So there's always gonna be double standard
with Lebronze James, and he understands that, and then he
uses it to his advantage, which you should. And and
as far as the elbow goes with the other night
with Asaia Stewart, it was on purpose. Of course it was.
It was on purpose. I mean, let's let's not even
sit here and say that it's not because if you
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get I think he was upset because of how aggressive
Isaia Steward was being with him with the line of scrimmage,
and DeAndre already had him boxed out, and Isaia Steward
went into him and he came across his eye with
an elbow and like split it but his face and
the man over there bleating. But I can guarantee you this,
if this shoe was on the other foot, man Isaiah Steward,
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pobby be suspended for the Polly ten of fifteen games.
But you guys out you really think he said I
want to hit this guy in his his face and make
him listen, listen, come on, I don't think I don't
think he meant to cut his eye opened as much
as he possibly did, but he wanted to send a
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message and my name Lebron. You're not gonna box me
out free throw line like this when the game is
at this point, the messages get up off me. And
obviously when you no no, no no no, I'm just
looking at it wasn't premeditated, but when that's what you're asking.
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But just basically he he he knew he did it
on purpose. No when because though it looks worse, if
if Isaiah Stewart, yes he did hit him on purpose,
but he was not trying to cut him open, I
would hope not. Now it looked it looked a lot worse.
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It looked a lot worse. We're not saying that. Just
acknowledge the fact that you're I believe when any time
anytime you swing upward, you know you're trying to let
him know, like bro get up off me, like get
up off And it's the frustration of almost being like shock.
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They can touch me, they can do this to me,
They do that to me. I don't get the call.
As soon as I touched somebody, it's a foul. He
Steward doesn't act like it looks like it looks so
bad because he didn't go to the back, and you
got blood on your mouth coming all down your face,
so it looks a lot worse than what it actually was.
(28:15):
I don't know if looked a lot worse. The only
person I could say it looked a lot worse or
didn't look a lot worse. Look he couldn't even to
the back. But the point, but here's the point, they
were they Lebron was frustrated, and out of frustration, he
acted like. That's the bottom line. Whether he meant to
(28:35):
hit him in the face, whether he meant to hit
him somewhere else, whether it lad to him bleeding, he
reacted just like any other game. All right, this is
why I mixed it up. Coming in and everybody, just
so you understanding, you're clear. Lebron makes a play and
grabs his crotch on his way back up the court.
He didn't grab it, he just did. Not only did
(28:58):
he grab it, but he got he got five He
got five fifteen g's for the obscene gesture. Okay, it
was labeled up scene gesture t J and he was
fine fifteen gs for it. Now here's what I'm saying,
Marshawn Lynch goes and runs, jumps into the endzone, he
grabs a grab hold, dude, Right, Okay, nobody has a
problem with it, right? You know why because Marshawn is
(29:20):
just being Martian Marchiaun isn't creating any double standards. He's
just playing the game. But when you come out in
the same exact game where you want fans that you
said have crossed the line for being for shouting out obscenities,
whatever it is that you said you heard or whatever
(29:41):
it is that they did. And that's why they didn't
have a problem leaving. They didn't kick Lebron out of
the game, They didn't get they didn't take and send
Lebron to the locker room because somebody from the stand
said that the gesture was obscene and across the line
as to what a pro players should do when they
make a play on the field or on the court.
Didn't do that, How can you? Okay? So, so what
(30:03):
I'm saying is in theory, the idea of what Lebron presented,
he totally he totally contradicts himself by what he did.
And I'm not I'm not a Lebron like, I'm not
a Lebron hater, I'm not a Lebron apologist. I'm just saying,
if we just look at the facts of what took place,
Lebron gives us a sound bite that says that fans
(30:24):
should should conduct themselves to a certain level where they
can they can boo and they can be fans that way,
but they can't shout up obscenities across the line. If
that's the case, then why would you do something in
the very same game that contradicts what you're saying? Do
y'all do you know what the fans said of Lebron?
(30:46):
What does it matter what he said? No? No, do
you know what, because I don't care what he said.
They're not parallel. They're not parallel. They are parallel. No,
they're not. They are even your son dies, Okay, now
that's what I said. But two things are not parallel.
At the celebrate after a and a fan telling you
(31:08):
I want your son to die, and in the context
of what it is, it really is TJ like it
really is because in the end, whatever those fans are saying,
it makes no never mind, because they have no power
over his life, not none. Whatsoever. Now, if they said
I am going to I'm going to off your child, well,
(31:29):
then now we're gonna the game is gonna stop. The
game is gonna stop. What happened, well that you already
know your boy. If they said George, how was going
to get off? Then I heard it. The game is
gonna stop because that, now, that is a threat. I
don't know the context and how they said it, but
that was what was said. But but if that, if
(31:51):
that's the case, if you if you issued a threat
that that was bodily harm, imminent danger, you're putting my
family in or me, if you threatened to kill me,
then that game is gonna stop right then and there,
because that exceeds the parameters of playing a game. You're
talking about my life, you're talking about my children's lives.
(32:15):
So that's different. But if somebody hollers out, oh, I
hope you choke on on your water, Lebron, I hope
you die, I hope you're I hope your kids die.
I hope your wife died. If somebody hollers out obscenities,
that crossed the line. Yes, they have crossed the line
in terms of what their conduct should be as as
a fan and what their their their behavior should be.
(32:37):
But at the same time that there is no vetting,
there is no there is no rule that says that
you can't say dumbs out your mouth as a fan. Again,
I've heard some wild stuff said to me personally like
that I've I've heard and it was something real like
I don't know which one is worse. You know what
(32:58):
I mean, to be honest with you, And I don't
need to repeat it because it's it's it's so deep
and dirty down the racial slur um hole that it's
not even worth putting out there. But at the end
of the day, the only way that power has power
over you as a person is if you give it
that power. So to me in that moment and I'm
in a game situation, if I'm saying I want them
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removed based off of what their conduct is, it is
totally the same thing, because conduct is conduct. If your
conduct goes across the line in terms of you did
an obscenity, then you've done an obscenity. Like we can
get into trying to measure how bad the obscenity is.
But if you did the same exact thing that you
wanted somebody remove for I got a problem with that,
(33:41):
That's all I'm saying. I got a problem with that.
So so so getting back to this whole run and
as this doing thing. So if they play again on
Sunday tomorrow, how do you think that game goes, no incident,
no incident? As said, don't want that smoke for real, Like,
if we're being honest, he hadn't if he didn't want
(34:02):
even he did want it, even if he did want it,
you know, they're breaking it up. Even if he did
want it, they're breaking it up. You're not fighting in
the game in the NBA, So just save the energy.
You When he had the opportunity, let me tell you something,
I am a master at throwing down in the course
of time and and know the pockets in the window
of opportunity to get your rocks off. And let me
(34:23):
tell you something, if if he was really about that smoke,
he would have rocked him. He would have rocked him immediately.
He had more than enough time to rock that man.
You're gonna lose your whole career. Steph Curry and Kevin Durant,
you better stay away from t J. Then you should
have just stayed away from it. What you trying to what?
What all that stuff that ensued after it happened, all
(34:43):
that stuff you're gonna do. You're trying to chase him,
you're trying to run after and you're trying to you know,
you're gonna be held back. But that's what I'm saying,
And that's the point. That's the point I'm making that
if you was about that smoke, you would have rocked
him right there. You would have thumped him right in
his face right then and there. Oh you hit me
in my He's okay, boom done, Like I'm gonna get.
I'm gonna get. I'm at least yeah, yeah, I'm at
(35:06):
least thumping it might get a good one, good one off. Anyways,
I digress. I don't I don't want to be shunting
out obscenities or or being you know, inappropriate or anything
like that, because I am not one to contradict. But
I know one who keeps it real and keeps it right.
Let's go to our man Ralphie for training. What's he got, Ralphie? Yeah,
well maybe that's maybe that too. One of your old
(35:28):
Isaiah Steward's gonna look at that, old man and say
let's go. Yeah, well, yeah, you know you know that
he tastes he's twenty years old. He's going after an
old man who punched him in the face. And put
that one together. I think this will be a half
out of them all. And y'all are I do too?
And y'all know you guys are technician immediately, you know
you guys are technicians. There's no reason ever to have
(35:50):
a closed fist on a basketball court in football. There's
reasons in other sports, there's reason. There's no reason to
ever have a closed fist on a basketball court. That
could be a fair point and nothing was closed, and
it was rocked. And he didn't go nowhere after he
did it, by the way, just something to look at tomorrow.
We got something to look at right now, believe it
(36:11):
or not. We got some college football Number one Georgia
on the road at Georgia Tech up in Atlanta, and
the Bulldogs already up to attend nothing lead to play
in the first quarter. Meanwhile at the Big House, here's
a quick reverse and it's got room at the ten
yard line. Down inside yea tou's down. Michigan Jim brand
(36:34):
Statter from Learfield with the call Michigan with the seventh
nothing lead over Ohio State. But the buck Eyes are
driving there at the Michigan twelve. Yes, I do, yes,
I do. You guys all know that whether Well, that's
(36:56):
why I never leave in l A. I don't miss
it me. While it's a lot, it's a lot warmer
in Texas where number eight Baylor, well, they're having their day.
Shaping takes the snap first and ten going deep left
sideline for Abner. He's got it. The defender fell down.
Abner makes the catch, Blake Shaping the trusted Abner and
(37:16):
the Bear score from sixty one yards away. That is
John Morris from lear Field Baylor with a tend nothing
lead over Texas Tech. Rest of the games involving the
top twenty five, number eighteen Wake Forest already up fourteen nothing.
They're at Boston College for forty five to play in
the first Number twenty four Houston a seven nothing lead
(37:37):
at Connecticut, forty three seconds left to play in the
first quarter there, but we sent it back right now.
It is on on dude, and even rabbits Lebron Artest
(37:59):
heard that one. Yeah, I like it all right. We
got a lot to get to man, we're gonna talk
about hardball in this Michigan Ohio State game, how how
important it is for him to win this one today,
if that's even possible. But first we're gonna take a break.
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heated conversations that are taking place. As you could see,
Um t J is not you know, premeditating any type
of um, you know, splitting, you know, stretch on my face.
But you know what he does, like to throw punches.
So we're gonna come back and we're gonna see what
type of punch he has to throw, and what t
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Just just real quickly, guys, since this is a quick
quick segment, give me your We just talked about We
just talked about how um personal versus fans and professional
(43:43):
and those different things. Now we we've been having the
conversation about the Stefanski situation and and obviously it's just
it's interesting with you know, who's the nag who's a
who was the coach of the Bears? I always it's Cleveland, right, Okay,
(44:07):
So so Naggy. It continued on into the Bulls Arena.
They're they're chanting, you know, to get rid of Naggi,
but they gotta win on on Thanksgiving. Do you do
you think that it looked as though the team still
is playing for Naggy? Do you do you feel as
though that's what you saw in in that Chicago game
(44:30):
against Detroit, that this is a team that still believes
in Naggy's ability to to lead them to two wins.
Man they they played Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions don't
have a win on the season. Could you imagine if
they had let Detroit beat him though? What he had lost? Okay,
(44:51):
so what he had lost his job if they lost? Well,
the Bears have never fired a coach during the season,
so I say probably not. But they beat the Detroit Lions,
who are winless. Like the Lions, they play everybody tough
and they lose. Did he save his job? I hope not.
(45:15):
Like you win some games against teams that you're not
supposed to beat. And I'm a receiver. Plex can you
name their starting receivers for the Detroit Lions. I know
we can. They It's almost this is worse than the
Patriots set of receivers when like, they don't have receivers
(45:38):
that would start on any team in the league. And
then DeAndre Swift went out with that shoulder, and then
he goes down with the shoulder. The only receiver I
really know on that team is I'm gonna rong St Brown,
and that's because he's from where we're from. Outside of that,
I don't know anyone. They had Tyrolle Williams, he got hurt.
They released them. They don't have a talent. Talking to
(45:59):
Detroit Lions anything. So if the Bears are happy about that,
something's wrong. Man, Listen, I don't think this one the
other day by the Bears on Thanksgiving them there's gonna
save Matt Nagger's job. I just don't believe. I don't
see how. If it does, then the then the standard
of of competing and and putting the team out there
(46:22):
that can win on Sundays has decreased, has decreased tremendously.
I don't see how they retain him as a head
coach going into the next season. And the piggyback on
what t J said, Man, we're talking about the Detroit
lines and Dan Campbell. What wasn't Dan Campbell the same
coach that said we are going to take on the
attitude of the city or Detroit. And well he did
(46:46):
say body knows knee caps getting up from getting knocked down,
though you know what I mean? I mean, well, how
many did he said every time we get knocked down,
we're gonna take a hunt out. I've never been the
situation of a player going into it well, being on
a team that has never that hasn't won a football game.
(47:07):
And you know, I got some good friends on that staff,
do stated, they just bought in Antoine Randall, who's the
wide receiver coach, and that's like TV said, I don't
even know who the wide receivers are over there. But
with that being said, man, there has to be uh
some level of respect and putting a team up that
they compete. I just don't understand how organization for all
(47:30):
these is twenty thirty forty years, just continues just to
be bad. There's something wrong within the organization. It's not
even the players, the scouting department, the general managers, everybody
that they've bought in there. Man, obviously they are not
football people. So you gotta get some football people in
(47:51):
that building who understand that, understand and can evaluate and
recognize talent and players and put a product out there
that I can compete. I feel sorry for the fans
in the city because they show up every game ever
was giving those fans and things. You know what's bad
about this? Y'are talking about Detroit, But you can use
what I just said about the beards as well, And
(48:13):
that's crazy because that answers the question. T J. I'm
disappointed that you didn't bring up Hockinson because he's done
well for them. And I know he's a tight end,
but but his name is t J. Hockenson, and he
is the guy that they look for in the passing game. Anyway, Sam,
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Got the crew? Whitman, what's up? Pollas? Got t J?
Who that place? Pant Strong? What? What? What's going on
with the super Friends? Man? How y'all feeling the day? Man?
I was Turkey day. Your belly like the belly feeling good?
Who's gonna be feeling the best after that takes place?
That's what I wanted. We are heading to head today, Yeah, head, Yeah,
(02:19):
I'm little talking is the favorite though, that's crazy, They're favorite.
Malay were coming up. We came up with bad loss.
We came up with bad loss last week. We are
definitely going out and in tremendous fashion today, no doubt
about it. One. Oh, that's interesting. All right, I already
know what's gonna happen, well as you can hear from
(02:41):
the lathered and warmed up stretched armstrong Plexico birds himself. Uh,
it is a football Saturday, a college saturday. We have
no idea who Oregon State is playing, but that's okay. Um, well,
we'll talk about other games that are going on, mainly
the big game between Michigan and Ohio as being labeled
and tagged as the game did you did you like? That?
(03:05):
Is Oregon State? Oh? S U two? Are y'all? O
s U? Yeah? We are you wow? Hey we one
thing is certain. If we play right now, we walcome,
we walcome. I believe it, co Burst, I believe if
you believe that, then you'll be shocked and ashamed of
(03:27):
what your team does today once they play against them. Lines.
That's all I'm gonna say. Roll the balls out, let's
rumble talking about a good day of football games, some
really good games on it is, some good matchups today.
Baylor is gonna have to do what they do. Georgia.
(03:48):
I don't know Georgia Tech is gonna give them anything,
but well yeah, yeah, we'll see. But yeah, let's get
to it, guys. We got a whole lot to get
to Uh. As we talked about college what touch on
college playoffs? We also will touch on Uh well Lebron.
You know, I know that that's your team, t J.
I know that Lebron James is the beloved one. We
(04:10):
want to be careful, at least I will want to
be careful. I don't want to get caught up in
the cancel culture. You know, people come for you when
you talk about certain people. But I got some opinions
on Lebron. Uh, So we gotta we gotta jam pack
pack show for you. We got legendary moments coming up.
Uh we got up on game down on games, so
that would be good. But oh yeah, oh yeah. That
(04:31):
that that one segment we do where um we get
on your head. Well, we got our man, James Jackson
in the house today, so let's get to it. It's
I'm on your hand with James Jackson, all right, young pup.
I mean you be on their heads. There's a lot
(04:52):
of recipients that could be receiving this. I'm interested and
excited to hear. Welcome into the show, and well, let
us know what you got j J. Yes, sir and
assir that you guys, welcome back to another episode I'm
on your Head, presented by the up on Game That
One and Fox Sports Radio. You guys know what I do, LaVar,
You're right, there's a couple of teams that I could
(05:12):
really get on this week. And and for me to
call you out, you don't have to be struggling from
from start to finish, right. You can start hot and
have a struggling a couple of weeks. I'm just still
gonna be right at that front door ready to let
you know. So with that being said, it's the Dallas Cowboys.
I'm on your hand. Yeah, somebody better go check on
(05:32):
skip over there because then, boys, they're struggling right now.
They're butting teams coming to journy Wald to shut down all.
The Ride lost three of their last four games, including
two of those losses being at home. And by the way,
the one win in that stretch is the Atlanta Falcon,
so I don't give them much credit for that. But listen, y'all,
here's here's why I'm really mad. Because the Cowboys playing
the lone Star state. Correct, but they're supposed to be
(05:54):
the lone Star of this NFC each division and here
they go giving the Eagles life with them being only
two games out of the division lead, and the NFC
least has been given to them on a silver platter
for a couple of years. Now, You've got coming into
this season, Legals having a first year starting quarterback in
the first year head coach Washington, loses their best player
midway through the season, and the Giants are who the
(06:15):
Giants are, right, so I don't really see why they
got any reason the Cowboys should struggle down the stretch
to win this division. And wait, wait, LaVar plex t J,
I need you guys to answer something for me, because
I don't know if you guys are made the same
observation as me. The Vico on a diet someone because
because because he's not eating like he used to, he's
only got to one hard yard rushing games this season,
(06:39):
and the last three games, man, he struggled to even
get the fifty yards rushing. And you guys know the
type of back cup that Zeke is coming into the season.
That's shaky, baby, can't shaky. We can't have that. And
I've heard a lot of excuses coming out of the
Dallas Cowboys camp. Right. Oh, we lost to a good
team in the Chiefs. Oh, the Raiders are a playoff
team and that game went to over time. And look
(07:01):
for a franchise that hasn't want to super bowing over
two decades. I get that they want to hang on
to moral victories, but I don't. So I'm on your head.
Mm they beat the Vikings, guys, I mean, what what
what are y'all feeling? I got? I got, I got
a lot of questions marks myself hanging over my head
with with Dallas. The only question I don't have is
how good Michael Parsons is, which I've told you all
(07:22):
this from day one. He is the dude. I've told
you all. He's a goblin amongst goons. Y'all wanted to
make fun of me, now, y'all eating crow. We didn't
make fun of you made fun of me, like especially
t J, especially you. T J like he does is
talking about Micah Michael. I know that we're talking about
When I first saw him. Two guys, what I tell
you saw him? And oh wait what I tell you said?
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And who the two to the pield Plex And I
was like they working out in l A with their
shirts off from like who the big old dudes? Then
they started running and you know that was the radio version.
You know, you know what t J really said now more?
You know what I mean? Hey, but talk with James
talking about you. You got at least the Cowboys are
(08:09):
not the team that I thought they would be considering
how they've been playing. But this is what I will say,
Marie Cooper Ceedee Lamb did not play. The Raiders played
a lot of man and man coverage. Those receivers just
couldn't get open. They couldn't get they couldn't get open.
One thing a Marie Cooper will do is beat press coverage.
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He's going to get open. And so if he's playing
two things happen. They win or they stopped playing defense
the way they're playing it, which I don't understand. And
this is the biggest problem I have with coaches. Anthony
Brown showed you he didn't understand how to rest recalling
the game. He showed you he couldn't play press, and
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you kept him impressed all game. Making adjustment for your
player if he's not gonna make an adjustment for himself,
that's coaching. They did and do that, and so things
like that get overlooked. Though Anthony Brown had a bad game,
Yeah he did. His coach could have saved him because
you saw that he wasn't making that adjustment himself. And
(09:13):
not sure. I do have one question to kind of
come back that I see, you know, the Cowboys playing
a lot of press coverage because of their best cornerback
on the other side, Trayvon Diggs. It's one of the
most you know, best ball hawking corners in the league.
Now do they not go away from that man to
man coverage because they know that that that is his specialty.
That's how he gets his turnovers and his in interceptions.
Because we talked about the top Michael Parsons creating all
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this pressure, got one of the you know leads, you know,
one of the league leaders and quarterback pressures this season.
That kind of one two tandem is how the Cowboys
have been creating turnovers. And you know, you know, and
LaVar Can attested as being a defensive player, you get
more interceptions playing zone than you do play man because
your eyes on the quarterback. So it would actually benefit
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Diggs if you they played more zone because he would
have eyes on the quarterback. And then instincts can really
take over. It's really hard to get interceptions and man
and man. So that's a tribute to how well he's
playing to be able to get those type of turnovers
in man coverage. Yeah, I would agree with that. You know,
you know what the crazy thing about the whole uh
you know, cornerback situation and Dallas. As far as Brown
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is concerned, teams are gonna do this for the rest
of the season whenever. Hey when yeah, when they catch
him and man and man coverage, teams are gonna throw
the football down the football field on him and force
him to play defense. And in his mind, he's going
to panic when the balls in there because all he's
thinking about now, you know what, I had four dprs
(10:40):
last week. I cannot uh create another defensive pass interference.
And this is one of those things. Man. Once you
once teams put you on wax in that manner, teams
go against him next week. Hey, coach everything, throw me deep?
What all nine balls? And you're talking crazy. I'm talking
crazy to him to whole pre game May I'm having
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thinking about the Raider game, the whole game. Yeah, yeah,
he James on his head, yeah, and his air But
here's here's the thing, right, it ain't the defense. The
defense is not the problem. They are not the problem.
The d that that is that is based upon one
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time off of a lot of penalty. I felt like
there was a lot of assistance involved if you look
at if you if you look at what the defense
is doing, they have actually given this this Dallas team
the most consistency that they've had this season. This season,
it's the offense that's letting them down. The offense has
not been consistent. They have not been able to produce
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on on a consistent basis to give this team a
fair opportunity to win weekend and week out. You get
a quality win against the Vikings, then you go out
and you you you know, you you actually do things
like lose to you know, the Broncos. You know what
I mean, Like, okay, they got destroyed by the Broncos.
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And then if you think about the Chiefs game, we're
looking at what they say could possibly be a Super
Bowl matchup. Right, Okay, here's the problem with that super
Bowl matchup? Nine points not the Chiefs played them a
lot of man and man again. Okay, okay, but but
you're talking nineteen points for the Kansas City Chiefs. If
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your defense can hold Kansas City to nineteen points, you
tell me, y'all, y'all on the offensive side of the ball.
What do they say in the team meetings if you
can hold thank you. If you team under twenty, team
you should be winning the game. And so you hold
the Chiefs the nineteen and then the Raiders put up
a thirty piece. Yeah, you know, and I think that's
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a great question. I think it's Aaron Waller out of
the game early. Yeah. But here's the thing though, right
if you look at that game and how that panned out,
it's the two major quarters. The two major quarters in
the game are what the first and the third. The
first you get out there, you see what you can establish,
then you learn what you need to do. The third quarter,
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you get out there and you've adjusted and you've adapted
to what you needed to do. I had time, you
saw what you need, You know what they're doing and
what's coming your way, and you make it work. Four
Teen points, ten points first quarter, four teen points for
for the Raiders. Third quarter ten points. You know what
the Dallas Cowboys did in the in the first and
third six points that's two field goals, you know what
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I mean, that's two field goals and the most critical
times of the game. And then you get garbage time
four team, Like, I don't you know, I'm not really
with that. You know, I'm not really with that. That
garbage time four team was like that garbage time that
he was getting last year, speaking of Dock in his offense.
You get that four team late late in the game, like, okay,
you take it to O T I at it. I
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get it, but I just don't. I get it, but
I just don't get it. Anyway, you're listening up on
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before we went to break, we we talked about Lebron
James and I know, a lot of people fall on
both sides of, you know, the Lebron James debate. I mean,
obviously you can't debate the greatness and the impact that
this man has had on the game, so that is
no reason for us to get off into that. But
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but with that being said, guys, I mean, with what
took place this week, you know, I just had an
interesting kind of perspective on how this all you know
played out panned out with Isaiah Stewart, And it was
interesting in the same game, in the same game you have,
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I believe it was the same game. Is that the
same game the fans got kicked out? Different game? Different?
The game is the game after? It was at the
Pacers game, right, So that was the game after so
after the suspension he wasn't able to play against the Knicks,
and then it was the following game, correct alright, So
so and in the situation where he gets into the
Isaiah um the Isaiah Stewart's situation, did we I mean,
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we didn't touch on that too much, did we. No,
we didn't touch on it. That hadn't happened, right, So
I'm trying not to to mix this up, but it
almost appears to me that Lebron sometimes gets caught up
into thinking that the rules apply to everyone else, or
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the code of conduct that that he was seeking applies
to everyone else, but it doesn't apply to him. And
I'm gonna touch on that. But but let's first, let's
let's take a listen to what Lebron had to say
about the fans that were in India and when they
played against the Pacers, and these these fans were actually
removed from the game at Lebron James's requests. So here's
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here was Lebron sound. I want to get your's opinion
on the other side of it about, you know, just
the Isaiah Stewart thing, how y'all felt that was handled
and you know where you fall on if it was
an accident, all that good stuff. But I also want
to understand, you know, something about Lebron in terms of
does he create a double standard that's different to him.
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So here's what he had to say about the fans
um that got got removed from the stadium at his request.
It's a difference between booing opponents and things of that
nature or not one of your opponents to be successful.
And then there's you know, moments where it goes outside
the line what I've seen gestures and words, and that
UM shouldn't be tolerating our game from nobody. UM. I
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would never say it to a fan, and a fan
should never said to a player. Okay, so let me
set the stage for y'all, because to me, he's right,
I agree with I agree that there should be a
line not drawn there. But I also understand that fans
are fans and and they're going to do things that
aren't logical because well they're fanatics. That doesn't justify what
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they do, but it also comes with being a part
of it. I've heard some of the most obscene, most
racially driven, most insensitive things said to me while I
was on the sideline. And yeah, you could get upset,
you could want to retaliate, you could have feelings about it.
But the one thing I never, I never really did,
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was allowed for somebody that's a spectator, that's not even
a part of what's going on, dictate to me in
that in that manner, in that regard. And now everybody
is different. You know, we saw Peters, you know, go
up and go up into the the stands and asked
to do where he was from. And I bet you
ain't gonna say that while I'm in your face. I
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personally don't subscribe to that that type of approach. But
do you guys agree with what Lebron had to say
about fans? And and just give us a reason why
I don't disagree with him. We're in two different sports.
You know, we played football. The fans are further away,
and when somebody is talking trash, we have to find
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them in the crowd. There's so many different on the
basketball court. When you're sitting courtside, it's right there. You
can constantly hear them, even when you're not in the game. Um,
from what out the fan, what they said was out
of line. If what I was told is correct, what
they said completely outline that that that's why they didn't
make a fuss about it when they got thrown out.
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It's just one of those things where so much emphasis
is now put on, oh, let's carry yourself the right way,
let's do the right thing. Oh we can't when I
don't know if you recall, it was earlier this year
and even last year when Russell Westbrook was getting into
it with fans that said courtside, some of them acting
titled because they're able to afford those seats. But then
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there's a flip side of it. If I'm a fan,
I want to talk trash to you, I want you
to lose a game. I want you to focus on
what I'm saying instead of a game. It's just a
fine line and I don't know where that line is.
But if what they said is true, they crossed it.
Hm Man. I think we spoke about this earlier this
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year when we were talking about football, and you know,
the fans you know, you know, overreact then and getting
out of character and saying things that they shouldn't be saying.
But at the end of the day is something you know,
they they put this we quote on quote professionals, but
at the same time, we're still human beings. And I
think that's the part that a lot of the fans, uh,
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you know, lose loose, loose fact of But we when
you start talking about this whole uh is the double
standard for Lebronze and I think we all know that.
And there's been several things that has happened over the
last you know year, the whole you know, promoting of
the of the tequila brand that goes against the COVID
protocols and the and the whole COVID and how they
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addressed this situation. So there's always gonna be double standard
with Lebronze James, and he understands that, and then he
uses it to his advantage, which you should. And and
as far as the elbow goes with the other night
with Asaia Stewart, it was on purpose. Of course it was.
It was on purpose. I mean, let's let's not even
sit here and say that it's not because if you
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get I think he was upset because of how aggressive
Isaia Steward was being with him with the line of scrimmage,
and DeAndre already had him boxed out, and Isaia Steward
went into him and he came across his eye with
an elbow and like split it but his face and
the man over there bleating. But I can guarantee you this,
if this shoe was on the other foot, man Isaiah Steward,
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pobby be suspended for the Polly ten of fifteen games.
But you guys out you really think he said I
want to hit this guy in his his face and make
him listen, listen, come on, I don't think I don't
think he meant to cut his eye opened as much
as he possibly did, but he wanted to send a
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message and my name Lebron. You're not gonna box me
out free throw line like this when the game is
at this point, the messages get up off me. And
obviously when you no no, no no no, I'm just
looking at it wasn't premeditated, but when that's what you're asking.
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But just basically he he he knew he did it
on purpose. No when because though it looks worse, if
if Isaiah Stewart, yes he did hit him on purpose,
but he was not trying to cut him open, I
would hope not. Now it looked it looked a lot worse.
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It looked a lot worse. We're not saying that. Just
acknowledge the fact that you're I believe when any time
anytime you swing upward, you know you're trying to let
him know, like bro get up off me, like get
up off And it's the frustration of almost being like shock.
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They can touch me, they can do this to me,
They do that to me. I don't get the call.
As soon as I touched somebody, it's a foul. He
Steward doesn't act like it looks like it looks so
bad because he didn't go to the back, and you
got blood on your mouth coming all down your face,
so it looks a lot worse than what it actually was.
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I don't know if looked a lot worse. The only
person I could say it looked a lot worse or
didn't look a lot worse. Look he couldn't even to
the back. But the point, but here's the point, they
were they Lebron was frustrated, and out of frustration, he
acted like. That's the bottom line. Whether he meant to
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hit him in the face, whether he meant to hit
him somewhere else, whether it lad to him bleeding, he
reacted just like any other game. All right, this is
why I mixed it up. Coming in and everybody, just
so you understanding, you're clear. Lebron makes a play and
grabs his crotch on his way back up the court.
He didn't grab it, he just did. Not only did
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he grab it, but he got he got five He
got five fifteen g's for the obscene gesture. Okay, it
was labeled up scene gesture t J and he was
fine fifteen gs for it. Now here's what I'm saying,
Marshawn Lynch goes and runs, jumps into the endzone, he
grabs a grab hold, dude, Right, Okay, nobody has a
problem with it, right? You know why because Marshawn is
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just being Martian Marchiaun isn't creating any double standards. He's
just playing the game. But when you come out in
the same exact game where you want fans that you
said have crossed the line for being for shouting out obscenities,
whatever it is that you said you heard or whatever
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it is that they did. And that's why they didn't
have a problem leaving. They didn't kick Lebron out of
the game, They didn't get they didn't take and send
Lebron to the locker room because somebody from the stand
said that the gesture was obscene and across the line
as to what a pro players should do when they
make a play on the field or on the court.
Didn't do that, How can you? Okay? So, so what
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I'm saying is in theory, the idea of what Lebron presented,
he totally he totally contradicts himself by what he did.
And I'm not I'm not a Lebron like, I'm not
a Lebron hater, I'm not a Lebron apologist. I'm just saying,
if we just look at the facts of what took place,
Lebron gives us a sound bite that says that fans
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should should conduct themselves to a certain level where they
can they can boo and they can be fans that way,
but they can't shout up obscenities across the line. If
that's the case, then why would you do something in
the very same game that contradicts what you're saying? Do
y'all do you know what the fans said of Lebron?
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What does it matter what he said? No? No, do
you know what, because I don't care what he said.
They're not parallel. They're not parallel. They are parallel. No,
they're not. They are even your son dies, Okay, now
that's what I said. But two things are not parallel.
At the celebrate after a and a fan telling you
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I want your son to die, and in the context
of what it is, it really is TJ like it
really is because in the end, whatever those fans are saying,
it makes no never mind, because they have no power
over his life, not none. Whatsoever. Now, if they said
I am going to I'm going to off your child, well,
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then now we're gonna the game is gonna stop. The
game is gonna stop. What happened, well that you already
know your boy. If they said George, how was going
to get off? Then I heard it. The game is
gonna stop because that, now, that is a threat. I
don't know the context and how they said it, but
that was what was said. But but if that, if
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that's the case, if you if you issued a threat
that that was bodily harm, imminent danger, you're putting my
family in or me, if you threatened to kill me,
then that game is gonna stop right then and there,
because that exceeds the parameters of playing a game. You're
talking about my life, you're talking about my children's lives.
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So that's different. But if somebody hollers out, oh, I
hope you choke on on your water, Lebron, I hope
you die, I hope you're I hope your kids die.
I hope your wife died. If somebody hollers out obscenities,
that crossed the line. Yes, they have crossed the line
in terms of what their conduct should be as as
a fan and what their their their behavior should be.
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But at the same time that there is no vetting,
there is no there is no rule that says that
you can't say dumbs out your mouth as a fan. Again,
I've heard some wild stuff said to me personally like
that I've I've heard and it was something real like
I don't know which one is worse. You know what
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I mean, to be honest with you, And I don't
need to repeat it because it's it's it's so deep
and dirty down the racial slur um hole that it's
not even worth putting out there. But at the end
of the day, the only way that power has power
over you as a person is if you give it
that power. So to me in that moment and I'm
in a game situation, if I'm saying I want them
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removed based off of what their conduct is, it is
totally the same thing, because conduct is conduct. If your
conduct goes across the line in terms of you did
an obscenity, then you've done an obscenity. Like we can
get into trying to measure how bad the obscenity is.
But if you did the same exact thing that you
wanted somebody remove for I got a problem with that,
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That's all I'm saying. I got a problem with that.
So so so getting back to this whole run and
as this doing thing. So if they play again on
Sunday tomorrow, how do you think that game goes, no incident,
no incident? As said, don't want that smoke for real, Like,
if we're being honest, he hadn't if he didn't want
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even he did want it, even if he did want it,
you know, they're breaking it up. Even if he did
want it, they're breaking it up. You're not fighting in
the game in the NBA, So just save the energy.
You When he had the opportunity, let me tell you something,
I am a master at throwing down in the course
of time and and know the pockets in the window
of opportunity to get your rocks off. And let me
(34:23):
tell you something, if if he was really about that smoke,
he would have rocked him. He would have rocked him immediately.
He had more than enough time to rock that man.
You're gonna lose your whole career. Steph Curry and Kevin Durant,
you better stay away from t J. Then you should
have just stayed away from it. What you trying to what?
What all that stuff that ensued after it happened, all
(34:43):
that stuff you're gonna do. You're trying to chase him,
you're trying to run after and you're trying to you know,
you're gonna be held back. But that's what I'm saying,
And that's the point. That's the point I'm making that
if you was about that smoke, you would have rocked
him right there. You would have thumped him right in
his face right then and there. Oh you hit me
in my He's okay, boom done, Like I'm gonna get.
I'm gonna get. I'm at least yeah, yeah, I'm at
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least thumping it might get a good one, good one off. Anyways,
I digress. I don't I don't want to be shunting
out obscenities or or being you know, inappropriate or anything
like that, because I am not one to contradict. But
I know one who keeps it real and keeps it right.
Let's go to our man Ralphie for training. What's he got, Ralphie? Yeah,
well maybe that's maybe that too. One of your old
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Isaiah Steward's gonna look at that, old man and say
let's go. Yeah, well, yeah, you know you know that
he tastes he's twenty years old. He's going after an
old man who punched him in the face. And put
that one together. I think this will be a half
out of them all. And y'all are I do too?
And y'all know you guys are technician immediately, you know
you guys are technicians. There's no reason ever to have
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a closed fist on a basketball court in football. There's
reasons in other sports, there's reason. There's no reason to
ever have a closed fist on a basketball court. That
could be a fair point and nothing was closed, and
it was rocked. And he didn't go nowhere after he
did it, by the way, just something to look at tomorrow.
We got something to look at right now, believe it
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or not. We got some college football Number one Georgia
on the road at Georgia Tech up in Atlanta, and
the Bulldogs already up to attend nothing lead to play
in the first quarter. Meanwhile at the Big House, here's
a quick reverse and it's got room at the ten
yard line. Down inside yea tou's down. Michigan Jim brand
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Statter from Learfield with the call Michigan with the seventh
nothing lead over Ohio State. But the buck Eyes are
driving there at the Michigan twelve. Yes, I do, yes,
I do. You guys all know that whether Well, that's
(36:56):
why I never leave in l A. I don't miss
it me. While it's a lot, it's a lot warmer
in Texas where number eight Baylor, well, they're having their day.
Shaping takes the snap first and ten going deep left
sideline for Abner. He's got it. The defender fell down.
Abner makes the catch, Blake Shaping the trusted Abner and
(37:16):
the Bear score from sixty one yards away. That is
John Morris from lear Field Baylor with a tend nothing
lead over Texas Tech. Rest of the games involving the
top twenty five, number eighteen Wake Forest already up fourteen nothing.
They're at Boston College for forty five to play in
the first Number twenty four Houston a seven nothing lead
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at Connecticut, forty three seconds left to play in the
first quarter there, but we sent it back right now.
It is on on dude, and even rabbits Lebron Artest
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heard that one. Yeah, I like it all right. We
got a lot to get to man, we're gonna talk
about hardball in this Michigan Ohio State game, how how
important it is for him to win this one today,
if that's even possible. But first we're gonna take a break.
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heated conversations that are taking place. As you could see,
Um t J is not you know, premeditating any type
of um, you know, splitting, you know, stretch on my face.
But you know what he does, like to throw punches.
So we're gonna come back and we're gonna see what
type of punch he has to throw, and what t
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back into the show. All right, So we've we've been
talking about a whole lot of different things here, and
I know we got a quick segment right here before
(43:20):
we get to the top of the hour. Make sure
you guys stay tuned in for for the second hour
because it's gonna you know, we're gonna keep turning up
the heat on it, turn up the volume on it.
Just just real quickly, guys, since this is a quick
quick segment, give me your We just talked about We
just talked about how um personal versus fans and professional
(43:43):
and those different things. Now we we've been having the
conversation about the Stefanski situation and and obviously it's just
it's interesting with you know, who's the nag who's a
who was the coach of the Bears? I always it's Cleveland, right, Okay,
(44:07):
So so Naggy. It continued on into the Bulls Arena.
They're they're chanting, you know, to get rid of Naggi,
but they gotta win on on Thanksgiving. Do you do
you think that it looked as though the team still
is playing for Naggy? Do you do you feel as
though that's what you saw in in that Chicago game
(44:30):
against Detroit, that this is a team that still believes
in Naggy's ability to to lead them to two wins.
Man they they played Detroit Lions. The Detroit Lions don't
have a win on the season. Could you imagine if
they had let Detroit beat him though? What he had lost? Okay,
(44:51):
so what he had lost his job if they lost? Well,
the Bears have never fired a coach during the season,
so I say probably not. But they beat the Detroit Lions,
who are winless. Like the Lions, they play everybody tough
and they lose. Did he save his job? I hope not.
(45:15):
Like you win some games against teams that you're not
supposed to beat. And I'm a receiver. Plex can you
name their starting receivers for the Detroit Lions. I know
we can. They It's almost this is worse than the
Patriots set of receivers when like, they don't have receivers
(45:38):
that would start on any team in the league. And
then DeAndre Swift went out with that shoulder, and then
he goes down with the shoulder. The only receiver I
really know on that team is I'm gonna rong St Brown,
and that's because he's from where we're from. Outside of that,
I don't know anyone. They had Tyrolle Williams, he got hurt.
They released them. They don't have a talent. Talking to
(45:59):
Detroit Lions anything. So if the Bears are happy about that,
something's wrong. Man, Listen, I don't think this one the
other day by the Bears on Thanksgiving them there's gonna
save Matt Nagger's job. I just don't believe. I don't
see how. If it does, then the then the standard
of of competing and and putting the team out there
(46:22):
that can win on Sundays has decreased, has decreased tremendously.
I don't see how they retain him as a head
coach going into the next season. And the piggyback on
what t J said, Man, we're talking about the Detroit
lines and Dan Campbell. What wasn't Dan Campbell the same
coach that said we are going to take on the
attitude of the city or Detroit. And well he did
(46:46):
say body knows knee caps getting up from getting knocked down,
though you know what I mean? I mean, well, how
many did he said every time we get knocked down,
we're gonna take a hunt out. I've never been the
situation of a player going into it well, being on
a team that has never that hasn't won a football game.
(47:07):
And you know, I got some good friends on that staff,
do stated, they just bought in Antoine Randall, who's the
wide receiver coach, and that's like TV said, I don't
even know who the wide receivers are over there. But
with that being said, man, there has to be uh
some level of respect and putting a team up that
they compete. I just don't understand how organization for all
(47:30):
these is twenty thirty forty years, just continues just to
be bad. There's something wrong within the organization. It's not
even the players, the scouting department, the general managers, everybody
that they've bought in there. Man, obviously they are not
football people. So you gotta get some football people in
(47:51):
that building who understand that, understand and can evaluate and
recognize talent and players and put a product out there
that I can compete. I feel sorry for the fans
in the city because they show up every game ever
was giving those fans and things. You know what's bad
about this? Y'are talking about Detroit, But you can use
what I just said about the beards as well, And
(48:13):
that's crazy because that answers the question. T J. I'm
disappointed that you didn't bring up Hockinson because he's done
well for them. And I know he's a tight end,
but but his name is t J. Hockenson, and he
is the guy that they look for in the passing game. Anyway, Sam,
laugh that coming up one hour two. This is up
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