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December 24, 2021 163 mins

Covino and Rich do a deep dive on Jimmy G. and his future with the Niners and they take calls on the topic from around the country. Are you anti black and white classic Christmas movies? Rich is, both Covino and Danny G. can't believe that he won't acknowledge It's a Wonderful Life as one of the best just because it's old. They talk Best Christmas movie odds and the phone lines light up and a movie debate begins! Do you bust your friends chops when their team loses? The fellas discuss that with David Gascon. They talk Madden documentary which drops tomorrow and how many younger sports fans don't even know who John Madden really is. The show and listeners have fun flashing back to the greatest sports video games of all-time. Plus, Covino is running out of time... they explain.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Christmas Eve, Rich Davis,
my dude, Steve Covino, what's up, buddy, Hey, what's up?
It's Fox Sports Radio. Covino and Richie heard the man.
Merry Christmas Eve, whether you celebrate or not, Thanks for
hanging out with us eight seven seven nine nine on
Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. You know

(00:22):
I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis. Hit us up
at Covino and rich the most inclusive show on Fox
Sports Radio, says me, says me, most interactive, says me. Yeah,
let's go well if you want to see me look
like a damn fool at Rich Davis on Instagram. My
wife recorded me last night when the Forts were playing

(00:45):
like Doodoo Pie in the second half, I saw you
in your little forty nine or Footsie pajamas, jumping up
and down waiting to see if I was I was
wearing great sweatpants. It's great sweatpants season, and I had
my forty nine shirt on. I was all hyped up. Yeah,
it's great sweatpants season. But the women don't seem all
that impressed with how you're looking at Thanks. Thanks, must

(01:06):
be cold in your house. So yeah, we're gonna talk
some Jimmy G. If you're new to our show. Again,
thanks to Doug Gottlie even everyone at Fox Sports Radio
for letting us do this. We're usually on Sunday nights,
Fox Football Sunday Funday, and of course we're on Patreon
Monday through Friday. Cavino and Rich Rich is a huge
forty Niners guy. So I did feel for you yesterday,

(01:30):
Buddy May, but you said something the other day that
aggravated me. He said, Man, I said, I hope the
forty Niners lose. It's better for the show. And I'm like, no,
it's not not even a little bit is because it
lights a fire, you know, and it gets you fired
up about Jimmy G. And I know you're gonna unleash
on him today. But again, I do want to wish
everyone a merry Christmas and a merry Christmas Eve. I

(01:51):
hope you're enjoying your week. I hope you got all
your shopping kind of done. I hope you're done rapping presents.
I hope you're enjoying your holiday classics, you know. I
hope you've enjoyed your foot you know, I'm torn on
a guy like you because you're O c D. But
you're sort of a knuckle head. Can you wrap your
own presence? Yeah? I can, I absolutely can, and I do. Yeah.

(02:12):
A lot of guys, a lot of men, not to
be sexists, rely on their women to do this, and
I am pretty decent at it. I'm not gonna lie. No,
I'm pretty good. Danny J. You Christmas rapper or what? Uh?
If there's a tutorial on YouTube that's easy to follow
along with? No, it'saw some cool random ways to wrap

(02:32):
presents on TikTok and Instagram, But but who cares. Let's
talk some football. Let me rant for a second about
my San Francisco And I say that, by the way,
compete about you because I feel like, since you are
such a meticulous O c D type of guy, I'm
ridiculous about being meticulous. I just figured it was one
way or the other that you had no clue or
you like the most precise Christmas like rapper of all time.

(02:56):
It depends who I'm w rapping for. If I'm wrapping
for my daughter, uh, you know, I don't put as
much effort because she doesn't care. It lazy, is it?
Lazy to throw things in bags with some tissue paper. No,
not at all, but you know what it is. It's
a total rip off. Those bags are always like six dollars,
if not more, unless you go to the dollar store.
That's the key there. Like ahead, I don't want to

(03:16):
get too off track, Jimmy g let me down yesterday.
Well let me start by saying, I don't hate Jimmy Garoppolo.
Here's the deal on Jimmy Garoppolo. In fact, I want
him to be the guy. I wanted him to be
the guy. But here's the reality. People love to throw
around the words like game manager, just control it, don't

(03:38):
make mistakes, But the reality is when you're that's almost
like a defeatist attitude, like don't make a mistake. That
shouldn't be what you expect out of your starting quarterback.
It shouldn't be don't make mistakes, manage the game. You
want your quarterback to make the big play when they
need to. And if you call a little in yard

(04:00):
slam patterned to Deebo Samuel in the fourth quarter a
big play, No, that was a Deebo Samuel big play.
That wasn't a Jimmy Garoppolo big play. So you could say, well,
can you get to the finish line with Jimmy Garoppolo.
I was there Miami a couple of years ago, Super Bowl.
They're up in the fourth quarter. You could say Jimmy

(04:25):
Garoppolo was one deep pass from hitting Emmanuel Sanders at
the time away from securing a forty Niners Super Bowl.
But guess what, he didn't make that pass, or he
didn't make any other drive in the last quarter and
a half of that Super Bowl. And I know that's
a long time ago, but it's just reflective of what
Jimmy G is. You heard Cal heard talking about how

(04:45):
he has quarterback face. Yeah, he does. He's handsome. He
was smiling with George Kittle when Tennessee was lining up
for the game winning field goal. That aggravated me. I'm like,
get hands arter Back face is what you see with
Jimmy Garoppolo. A guy who was always the best looking kid,
therefore was always the quarterback other boys backed off. Therefore
his confidence built up, and you see that confidence on

(05:07):
the field where you know, if he makes a mistake, hey,
what are you gonna do? He's still Jimmy G. Still handsome,
and you see that in a lot of quarterbacks in
the NFL, from Dan Marino to Joe Montana, whoever you
think is handsome. Jimmy g is a perfect example of
quarterback face and it didn't come through this week. Well,
here's the thing. The forty Niners are now eight and seven.

(05:29):
They were likely to win. Next week they play the
Houston Texans, so they'll be nine and seven. They play
the Rams final week of the year. They might not
even need to win that game to make the playoffs
for all you know, right, based on the other seven
and seven or six and eight teams, So they're gonna
get into the playoffs likely, right, I think the Vegas

(05:51):
percentages are now seventies something percent. The Niners will still
sneak in. But if that's what you want, that's what
you're gonna get with Jimmy Garoppolo. Are you gonna sneak
into the playoffs at nine and eight or ten and
seven and losing the divisional maybe you win one wild
card game because you have a stacked team. Look at
who the forty Niners have. When you watch that game

(06:12):
last night, you can see you're healthy when they're healthy,
and they are healthy. Look at look at the outside
of Mostard who the forty Niners could throw a lot
of people into Kyle Shanahan's run game and and they're
pretty successful, right, But look at what the forty Niners
have and you can see my frustrations. Why I look
like such an ass on my Instagram? No, you look
like an ask because you're like in your forty Niners pajamas.

(06:35):
That that too, Yeah, but they had deepo Samuel Brandon, Ayouk,
George Kittle their defense for the most part, other than
their suspects secondary, the forty Niners are designed to be
a contender. I'd say I'd go as for to say,
if they had a top tier quarterback, they're a Super

(06:59):
Bowl contender or winner. So are what you saying? Uh?
Is it the opposite of what you know? Cal heard
was saying earlier this week in the sense that sometimes
quarterback face works against you because when you have quarterback
face all like Jimmy g you're not the most athletic
guy on that has nothing though, has not skillful guy

(07:20):
in the field. And you're saying, you know, a guy
with better skill sets has nothing to do with quarterback face.
I'm all that. I'm just saying when you look at
what the forteen Hunters have went healthy, Jimmy G will
get him to the playoffs and they'll probably they may
win a game, they may get to the divisional round,
maybe even the championship. Who knows. The NFC is so
wide open. If you look at the NFC, every team
is vulnerable. You've seen the Cowboys, the banged up Bucks,

(07:44):
the Rams, the Cardinals. All these teams are vulnerable. No
one's killing it right. But when you look at who
the Forts have. Can you know if you watch that
game at all last night, you're thinking of yourself, Wow,
Imagine if they had a star quarterback like imagine if
Aaron Rodgers had got traded to the Niners and had
Brandon I you, Deebo, Samuel George Kittle. Imagine if when

(08:07):
Tom Brady made his decision two years ago he said,
you know what, I'm gonna go to the Fort they
would be elite. Jimmy G takes a team that could
be elite. It makes them good. They're good. They'll make
the playoffs. I'm not. I think they'll make the playoffs,
and I think most people think the Niners they'll make
the playoffs. We've seen lesser quarterbacks win super Bowls. We've

(08:27):
just said it's rare, but it's based on it's based
on dominant defense, and they don't have enough of a
dominant defense. But you're saying good enough, you know, isn't
good enough if you want to go to the super Bowl.
You know, you remember dating that girl that you had
a really good time with. You were attracted to her,
but deep down inside you said, I'm not going to
marry her. She's not the one's we having fun, we

(08:51):
have chemistry in the bedroom. Well, you're her for her
mom and dad, great family. Are you in love with her? Yeah?
Probably not a you're gonna marry her? Bro, No, I'm
not gonna marry her. It's gonna be awful when we
break up, but it's not gonna work out. That's that's
to me, Jimmy garoppolo, and that's all I gotta say.
It's it's the So what you're saying is Jimmy G.

(09:13):
What you're really saying is based on your analogy. Jimmy
g really good looking guy, but he's really terrible in
the bedroom. He's just okay, he's not the marriage material.
He's not marriage material. By the way I heard I
was listening to Joy on the Way and she was fantastic.
I was. I was listening to her show and she
was talking about how in the off season, Jimmy Garoppolo

(09:34):
is gonna have a lot of suitors and and I'm like, no, Jimmy,
she would be great if he was the new Bachelor.
Jimmy G. I get it because right now, well he'd better,
he'd be better than the guy that's the Bachelor this
coming season. People are saying like, well, who's who's in
the who's in the quarterback market next year? Is anyone
really gonna want Cam Newton? Is anyone really gonna want

(09:58):
you know, any any of the available quarterbacks that are
going to be around next year. No, there's no one's
a weak quarterback class coming up in college because it's
like one dude people are scoping out. So the reality is, yeah,
maybe there is a team that wants Jimmy G. But
I warned that team You're gonna enjoy dating him, but
you're not gonna marry him. He's not going to curl
the toes. He's not. You're gonna be like, oh, Jimmy G.

(10:21):
He just lays there. He doesn't do anything extra. He's
sort of fish. He's fun to look at. But I
get it now, I get it, man, And it's frustrating.
You know, he's good but not good enough Danny G.
You feel me or what? Because I feel like I
feel like Jimmy G is the perfect example of like
good enough. Like it's you can't say he stinks, bencham.

(10:44):
He's awful, but he's not. He'll take you to the playoffs,
but you're not gonna go further than that. There's a
ceiling with Jimmy Garoppolo. You and I have a lot
in common with our favorite NFL teams because I feel
like he's a smaller snapshot of Derek Carr. Car is
so tro eight years in how many years is Jimmy
G now with the Niners? Man, Yeah, I know exactly. Yeah,

(11:08):
like a really good quarterback, but not an elite quarterback. Yeah.
And and unless you have a dominant defense where you
go on a run, you're not gonna win. Like Aaron
Rodgers or Tom Brady will take and an okay team
pretty far in the playoffs every year, and they'll win
it when they got a great team. Jimmy Garoppolo, I

(11:30):
don't know, man, Look look at other teams. Look at
the other teams in the NFC. I watched pretty closely,
as do you. Can you tell me a team with better,
healthier weapons right now in the NFC? Maybe the Dallas
Cowboys with the forts having Kittle, I you debo their

(11:50):
offensive line bad. They give Jimmy Garoppolo a protection, yet
he still takes a sack here there. Mobility not strong.
I'm not marrying him, which is not marrying Jimmy Garoppolo.
I'm happy with the performance. Got to blame somebody, I guess,
and it's gonna be him. It's gonna be his face.
And we'll take your phone calls to at eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine

(12:12):
on Fox. Do you agree with Danny J? Do you
agree with Rich Davis? I want him to be the
guy you know when you want like you know, you're
a big Yankees fan, you know, when you're going into
a big game and it's one of those years where
you don't really have an ace of a picture and
you're like, oh, they're all right, they're gonna they're gonna
spot start this guy, like you have a chance to win,

(12:34):
but you feel a lot more comfortable if you had
an ace going right. No, I totally feel you mean,
he's not your ace. He's not that guy. He's good.
But then again, you know, maybe it's just it's just
not your year. You know, maybe your expectations are too
high on this guy. Never get that good. He was

(12:55):
never that guy. And to add insult to injury, one
of the TV's in the studio is playing NFL Networks
replay the game last night. You did that on purpose, Tony,
don't cry about it. Yeah, oh yeah, he just got
picked again. Yeah, sometimes you hope the outcome is different,
just like when you watch Rich as a Mets fan,

(13:16):
as a as every time the Red Sox watch Bill Buckner,
your whole you're hoping he gets it. Does every sportsman
have that dumb feeling like when they watch it, when
they watch the encore of an old game, they're like, oh,
maybe he'll change this time. Yeah, no, you absolutely do.
You're like, oh, come on, just for it would be
a good Twilight Zone movie. You're yeah, yeah, you're you're

(13:37):
in oh one. You're thinking, like, maybe Marianna Rivera doesn't
lose to the Diamondbacks. Maybe Gonzo strikes out this time.
It's really the Yankees year to win it. You know,
two one, nine eleven, Yankees gotta win this one. Come on,
more Rivera. And then it does happen. That's the that's
the movie. Come you know that. And then it does happen,
and your whole world is thrown off. You're like, wait
a minute, Yeah, you're fate and destiny. It changes. It's

(13:59):
like some weird butterfly effect. Life just isn't the same afterward. Um,
but yeah, Richie, you lost the game yesterday, or Jimmy
G lost the game yesterday, see again, pointing blame, pointing
blame on Jimmy G. So, guys, you heard Rich's take,
you heard his disdain, his disgust. We're gonna take your
phone calls. We're gonna talk more football, more holiday movies,

(14:24):
more Christmas time fun here with Cavino and Rich in
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(14:44):
Sports Radio with Cavino and rich You're used to hearing
us Sunday nights on Fox Sports Radio. It's a pleasure
to be here today in for Doug Gottlieb. I'm Steve
Cavino live from Idaho, visiting the old in laws for
the holidays. Riches on the A side. We got a
fun crew today, man Iowa. Sam is here on the

(15:06):
ones and twos, David Gascon on the updates. No one's
as cool as Guscone and Danny g on the phones.
You know, I hope no one's passing the studio window
because I was. Sam and I were watching Reindeer Games
during the break with Ben Affleck. Yeah, I forgot that.

(15:26):
There's a scene where, oh my god, there's Gary sit
He's getting in a pool and some topless woman jumps
on him and I'm like, oh, someone someone watching good movie.
By the way, you remember Reindeer Games. I have a
theory that if there's nudity in the movie, it's not
considered a Christmas movie. Whole stance on why I Love
actually stinks. I love Love Love Actually it is the

(15:48):
worst is can you watch it with the kids? Can
you watch it with your mom and grandma? That's not
a family movie. That's no it's a wonderful life. That's
not a it's a Christmas story. It's God. It's not boring.
All right, we're gonna talk Christmas movies in a minute. Well, hey,
I vented about Jimmy. G vent about your team. What
was the other day? It was a festivus we could

(16:09):
have so I was a day late on festivals. But
I aired my grievance Jimmy Garoppolo. I want him to
be the guy I wanted him. I want him to
be the guy that would get the forty Niners to
the super Bowl and win. He got there, didn't win
a couple of years ago. It's it's inevitable. The forty
Niners are a good team. As long as Garoppolo is

(16:30):
the quarterback, they're a playoff team. They're a good team.
But if you want to be a great team, when
you have George Kittle, I you, Deebo Samuel, all these weapons,
you need an elite quarterback. You check. How do you
know the guy's the best fullback in the league. How
did I forget him? Well, I want to go to
that misspassed to us check last night. That was the

(16:52):
That was the game. It should have been twenty one nothing.
Kevin Burkhardt on Fox even said, he goes the game
should be twenty one nothing, right now, a pick in
the end zone and then I missed. They blew a
coverage and Jimmy Garoppolo overthrew use checked by like five yards.
What I was saying before about maybe your expectations they're
just too high. You know, we keep tying this stuff

(17:14):
into relationships. It's like when you're in a relationship and
the woman is trying to change you, but you're like,
you know, you knew who I was from the start.
This is who I've always been. That's how I feel.
You're reacting about Jimmy trying to make Jimmy g some mobile,
ridiculously athletic quarterback. I'm just saying he's not gonna be

(17:35):
the guy. It's there. There are nine and eight, ten
and seventeen. With Jimmy Garoppolo, they'll sneak into the playoffs.
They may even win a game because they're good. But
with an elite quarterback, they're Super Bowl contender. Let's go
to Sean and Iowa. What's up man, you're on coven
on Rich and forgot leap. I'm a lifelong fan and

(17:56):
Jimmy Garoppolo is the most aggravating player in their history.
Is it also a shot because you want to like
because you want to like him because he seems like
such a good dude, right, Like you want to I don't.
I haven't been happy since. I haven't been happy since
they let Alex Smith leave. Uh. I was a huge
Alex Smith fan. Uh, just mostly based on his character,

(18:19):
you know, before Harbach came in fixed him. I liked
what he did on and off the field. He did
have his moments where it was like, what the heck
are you doing? I remember a game against Philadelphia he
was scrambling and kicked the ball out of his own hands.
We won't go there, though. What I don't like about
Garoppolo is like you get him into some moments where

(18:41):
he has to be clutched, and he just lights it up.
You know last week against the Bengals in overtime, even
last night, Uh, you know, three and a half minutes
to go, they need ninety seven yards for a touchdown
and they do it. Yeah. The game where they lost
to Green Bay, well, when they left Aaron Rodgers seconds,
Jimmy g drove him down for the game winning at

(19:02):
the time he thought game winning drive. So he has
his moments, but he do you feel like he disappears
from the third quarter until the end of the fourth,
Like hell, it's ridiculous. It drives me nuts. But then
you know, the other thing is the Green Bay game,
and then you know last night's game. That's that's kind
of on the defense too. You know, sure, sure the

(19:24):
defense kept a minute with the turnovers that Garoppolo had,
but you know they gave it up there. Thank you, Sean.
You know, I appreciate Sean take and and I love
d Alex Smith too, as as a guy and as
a quarterback. But you think he'd be in any different
position with a guy like Alex Smith. Alex Smith another
example of a good quarterback, good quarterback, good game manager.

(19:45):
Definitely had his moments, probably better than Jimmy g But
would he be the big difference maker that Rich is
talking about. I don't think so. Cindy in Pasadena can
be on wretch and Forgottie, what's up Cindy? I um so,
I'm a lie long fan. Also, I was also at
the last two Super Bowls. Um I'm really tired of

(20:06):
people bagging on Jimmy G after a game. I've watched
that game. Are deepense, but Tannehill run down the field
to score a field goal. We had penalties. So this
is not all on Jimmy G. But you haven't. You
guys can stop Brown. Yeah, but you held in the
first half, you held them scoreless, and in the in
the second half, you have the secondary man a couple

(20:28):
of terrible third downs that you let Tennessee get that
with the third and twenty something, you jump off sides
and you give up like a thirty rd pass to
a J. Brown. Unacceptable. But I mean, if you Tennessee
scores twenty, you should win the game. Forty Niners need
to score more than twenty. They average twenty five or
twenty six a game. It's they You saw the first half, cydity,

(20:49):
it should have been twenty one nothing at some point. Yeah. No,
I totally get your frustration, and I agree with you
that we have we have um you, we have Samuel,
we have Kittle, we have this, you know, these amazing
receivers and running backs. And yes, it does get frustrating,
but good lord, Jimmy G. Is not the entire team.

(21:09):
You're you're you're right, But I mean wide open use
check he misses that pick pick in the end zone.
Those little differences if if you have an elite quarterback, Cindy,
we're talking about this team having a three game a
three games swing different than instead of eight and seven,
they'd be eleven and four. Soth and and you'll be
talking about Super Bowl stuff. Thank you for the call,

(21:31):
writer in Las Vegas, Cono and Rich. Sorry, and I'm
almost done with my Jimmy g Rant. It's all good,
Hey writer, what's up? Man? Yes, sir, how's it going?
Tell us Mary Christmas? You tell me Christmas? Thank you,
thank you. So okay, I've gotta I mean, just a
quick little story, quick taken and just a question for
you guys. First off, lifelong New England Patriot Van So

(21:52):
of course I I've been following Jimmy g and Albert
since he left. How funny enough, I've actually met Jimmy
g in person. Super nice guy. I was working out
here in Las Vegas securities for for a day club,
you know, Marque Day Club out here, and in short,
he ended up coming through there and nobody, because he's
back up for the New England Patriots at the time,
nobody really knew him except for me. I was like,

(22:13):
wait a minute. I was like, he's in the regular line,
which was hilarious. He didn't like use money or his
name or anything to get through quickly, you know, he
was on the standard line. I'm like, no way, what's
your name? He's like, Jimmy, what's yours? I knew it
was you, and you know, we talked a minute. I'm like,
please tell me that, you know, and that's when you
fell and that's when you fell in love with Jimmy Garoppola, right,
because we all like him. We all liked him. Just

(22:34):
he's at nine and eight, ten and seven, get to
the playoffs, not gonna win. He's he's really good. And
I was like, please tell me, like, you're not going
to be traded, right, and he's like, oh, you know
that's not up to me. The bill well, and then
you know, he got traded then made the super Bowl,
blah blah. You know, maybe a bad comparison, but tell
me if this is kind of similar ish if he
did continue with the forty nine ers, would he almost

(22:56):
be similar to a Philip Rivers type of situation? And
he's really good, but he could He's not as rivers.
Rivers are better and they quarters in the m s.
Jimmy g story is not written, you know, writer, it's
he's not done. It's just I don't think San Francisco
is where he's gonna win a Super Bowl. He had

(23:17):
a chance. They were beating they were beating Patrick Mahomes
by ten in the fourth quarter and they all they
need to do is just have one drive burned some
clock and now listen, couldn't get it done. It's stories over.
My question for you guys to just one question is
then would you want to risk because he's a good
quarterback and you know that he has taken a team
to the Super Bowl, would you want to risk letting

(23:38):
him go? Who would you want to see in there instead? Writer,
thank you for the call. I will answer you and
Cavino know what it makes What makes me think of
our buddy Ralph Irvan because Ralph was the one guy
that was like, you know, if Chicago never went to Fields,
maybe they'd be a wild card contender in this pretty

(23:58):
average NFC. And I think that's why the fort If
the forty Niners, then they're never going to do it
would be ridiculous. But imagine if they went to Trey
Lance right now, it would be a terrible idea. But
I mean, let me ask you this, Rich, because you're
being pretty hard on your boy, and I get it.
You're frustrated, right it's your team. You wanted to see
him win. If they would have won, would you have

(24:21):
come back and given all the credit to Jimmy G.
That's the interesting part about it. It's like, you know,
it's it's uh, if if he would have won the game,
you would have been super stoked, but you would have
been saying, hey, man, Jimmy G. I told you he's
the guy, so if it takes the bullet, he's the
guy that gets to blame when they lose it. And
I get it, he's in that position. He's the quarterback.

(24:42):
Not really fair ninety yards, drives down the field, touchdown
seventeen seventeen. You're asking me if they if if Tannehill
gets caught up, they turned the ball over or it
goes to overtime in the Niners win, sen What what
tune am I singing today? Forty nine has squeaked one
out despite Jimmy J. Hey fair enough, man, But you

(25:07):
know I would say that because a J. Brown seemed
a little unstoppable. Tannehill hit him for a hundred and
forty five yards yesterday, so you know, you could point
to blame in a few different places, not just Jimmy
g But that's what you get when you're to QB.
All right, thank you, bro, thanks for letting me event,
because I do want to talk some Christmas movies. I
want to talk some old school sports video games. It

(25:27):
is Christmas. Remember that feeling when you knew you were
getting some video games or some sporting equipment for Christmas.
We'll get to all that, but let's see what's trending.
What's up, Gascon? What's up? What's up? Buddy? We're gonna talk.
I mean you your team just gave that game away. Yeah,
you know what. It seems frustrating. It was frustrating day
because when it was seven nothing and then Jimmy throws

(25:52):
the pick, it should be it could be fourteen nothing,
right because they're there within the ten yard line and
then the wide open use check miss pet one over
the top. I mean it should have been at the
very least seventeen nothing. At the other first half. I
remember looking at the box score at the end of
two quarters, and I think San Francisco is out gaining Tennessee.
It was like one fifty one. I mean it was

(26:13):
so one sided. Yeah, but but you know what, that's
the stupidity that gives the guys like me hope that
you know, maybe they adjusted, because, as you could probably agree,
the NFC doesn't have one team that isn't a little
vulnerable other than maybe Greenback Dream Bay. Yeah, I think
that's that's the team. I'll tell you what, though, I
would take Jimmy g and his jaw line of Denver.

(26:33):
I mean, don't tell me that team is not good
enough to win a super Bowl with that defense. Even
they gave away von Miller, but they held since it
at the fifteen points at home and still lost, they
need something there. All right, Well, what's going on? I
see a lot of the trending could be know and
I were talking before we got here that so much
of the trending seems to be COVID related. Yeah, I
do want me to steer away from that, because give

(26:55):
us a school, we're gonna make a list of all
the people who COVID has messed up their first if
you have a secret on how to stay away from that,
let us all know, well, I mean and the NFL
I met in terms of trending what's going on in
the world of sports. But guys, Mike Evans, who was
injured last week not playing week sixteen, nowhere in the
stats for weeks seventeen. UH Barns head coach Matt Naggy

(27:17):
said Nick Foles will actually start this weekend against the
cell Seahawks. Reason why is Justin Fields a banged up ankle.
Uh Quit Nelson, the guard for the Indianapolis Colts. He
has been placed on a specific illness reserve list, not
playing against Arizona this weekend. Washington football team safety to
Chaser Everett was a driver in a fatal car crash

(27:38):
last night. One car crash in Laddon County. It actually
killed his passenger, twenty nine years of age, Olivia Peters
of Las Vegas, passed away at the hospital after the crash.
Cording to report from the Sheriff's office, Everett's Nissan gt
R left the right side of the road, struck several trees,
and then rolled over. UH Jared Goff not gonna be

(27:59):
able to go to the sweek in. That's according to
head coach Dan Campbell. He tested positive for COVID nineteen
on Monday, Janice actually cleared NBA's health and safety protocols.
He might be playing tomorrow against the Boston Celtics, but
there's no word yet official on that. And Darren Collison,
you guys remember him a few years ago. He retired
in twenty nineteen. He's making his appearance to the Los

(28:20):
Angeles Lakers, who got skunk last night. But the Spurs
he signs a ten day contract. That is, according to ESPN,
he's signing a hardship exemption contract. Get all that. Yeah,
And by the way, did you guys come in out
did you see Joe Johnson playing the Celtics the other day?
I did. It's pretty solid to see him come up,
you come off the bench, I'll craw with Cherry Nail

(28:43):
the bucket called in a night. That was pretty cool.
Was he ever an NBA jams You know he might
have been. He was. He's the last Is he not
the only active NBA player that actually played against Michael Jordan? Right? Yeah,
that's the fun fact about Joe Johnson was in double dribble.
All right, Um, I want to ask you about COVID.

(29:06):
Thanks for the update. David. You know, we have a
COVID buzzer today. Anytime you guys say that word, Iowa, Sam,
thank you, thank you. It's kind of hard to avoid us.
It's ruining our lives again, ruining our games. Could it
be ruining our playoffs? Well yeah, you know, can you know,
put the movie stuff on pause just for a second,

(29:26):
because I do want to ask you, what are your
thoughts if my thoughts are are personal thoughts at this moment,
like I understand this's gonna play a big part in
the games coming up. But I'm in Idaho right now. Right.
My plan was to leave early tomorrow morning, go back
to California to do the whole dad thing right backstory,
I'm a co parent, you know, if people are like,

(29:48):
what do you mean? And my daughters with my ex
up until tomorrow afternoon, so I was gonna have my
daughter from tomorrow afternoon through New Year's So I was
gonna fly in tomorrow from Idaho. But they're canceling flights
left and right now. So I'm sitting here my fingers crossed,
being like, oh man, they better not cancel my flight
because I gotta get back. You. I need to hop

(30:10):
in a van with a polka banda Yo, serious, trust me, dude,
that's a thirteen hour drive back. You know, I don't
want to do that. I drove here, but I plan
on flying back. And you know, that's just my personal
sort of story. But there's a lot of people who
were who were as of yesterday stuck because flights were
already canceled. Wasn't it? Two hundred plus flights are being

(30:31):
canceled by a few different airlines, yes, Delta United. So
I keep looking at my phone to see, well, what's
the deal for tomorrow. I mean, it's affecting everybody, not
just yeah, not just professional sports. But you know, you
keep hearing about you know, this guy's down, this guy's down,
but you know they're pivoting, they're adjusting the rules, and
you know it's getting a little easier to come back.

(30:52):
That is true. But I'm curious what you think about. Well,
first of all, the NBA, a couple of star players,
Trey Young, who else, uh, Luca, I think can't play
on Christmas Day? Right, so a couple of key players
can't play on Christmas Day. But once we get towards
the NFL playoffs, would it infuriate you as a fan

(31:15):
or just a viewer of the game, if the playoffs
are affected by this, like, do you would it be
a a scorn season? Would it be a like an
asterisk tech type of situation if all of a sudden
it's like, well, the you know, the Packers were eliminated
in one, but it was because of an asterisk sort
of scenario. But it's definitely a tough pill to swallow

(31:36):
if one of your star players can't play because of this.
But in the past, COMPU we we played without stadiums
of people we played, meaning we the players, not us,
but we watched empty stadiums and baseball fields and football stadiums.
But we got through it without really star players missing anything. Correct,

(31:57):
Now you're seeing that happening, and you know, know who
had affected the most so far, the Cleveland Browns because
if they would have won, If they would have won,
that's what what was the game that was on Tuesday
or Monday. If they would have beat the Raiders, Cleveland's
in first place. Now they're in the last place. If
they have Baker Mayfield and some of their personnel for

(32:17):
that game, they probably the outcome is different. Right, So
now he started to say, well, the integrity of the
season thrown off a little bit, or hey, if everyone's
if everyone's vulnerable, you know, that could happen to anybody.
It's not like it's just affecting one team. You know,
everyone is Uh could be victim to COVID. Dang, give
me the buzzer, be victim to here. You know, it's

(32:40):
not just the Browns, It's not just the Chiefs. Travis
Kelsey who not the Bengals. The Bengals because Joe Burrow
said clause Cincinnati so boring that there's no nightlife. That's
why Cincinnati has stayed off the list. But they're doing
everything they can, like I said, to make it easier
to return because the severity just isn't the same although
proving to be, you know, highly contagious. And and that's

(33:02):
not to downplay anyone that is suffering from this or
that is sick from this, because I know people that
are sick from this right now as we speak. And uh,
you know, as you know, I suffered months ago from COVID.
So definitely not downplaying it, but there you go. But
you know, it's definitely easier and easier return because of

(33:23):
the uh, the shifting rules in getting back do you
think NFL Do you think the NFL will on the
fly the same way? You know, you know, like your
your answer could change. Meanwhile, you could be so adamant,
like well, I'm not remember Bruce Arians was like one
mistake by Antonio Brown and he's out of here. And
then it was like, well, Antonio Brown's a change man now,

(33:43):
and uh, well I guess what's best for the Bucks
and he's a good man now, and now Bruce Arians
gave Antonio Brown another matter. Oh he did his time,
So yeah, I guess, like I mean, like maybe once
once upon a time I said, well one and done,
but you know, translation, we freaking need Antonio Brown. And
you know he probably did change his tune and maybe
he's a good teammate and all that. Right, do you

(34:04):
think the NFL will would significantly move games? Let's say
it's an NFC championship and they're like, oh no, Aaron
Rodgers or Tom Brady's on the COVID list. They're asymptomatic.
It's a close call. They bump that game a few days.
You know, That's that's really the question here, like how
does that how is that handled? If you're It just

(34:26):
depends how important the Chiefs are played in the a
f C championship games, and like, yo, Mahomes is like
a day away from COVID prodocol they move in the game. No,
And I don't think they're letting us know that. No,
if they did, they if you think they won't even say, Like,
what would happen if the day before the Super Bowl
both star quarterbacks get a rematch of Super Bowl One,

(34:50):
Chiefs and then Packers, They're gonna tell us that Aaron
Rodgers versus Patrick Mahomes and it's like, uh, psych they
both got COVID mean, God forbid. Hopefully that doesn't happen,
but if it did, I just I feel like, dude,
have to adjust, right, you can't stick by your guns
of well, we're not going to adjust anything. Well luckily
for us, which we're not paid to make those decisions,

(35:11):
you know what I mean? Like some people are making
the big bucks is not on us? Is that? What
is that? Why makes a billion dollars for tough decisions
like that? All right? Uh, we got more Cavino and
Rich We're gonna talk some Christmas movies. We'll talk some
NFL playoffs. Scenarios. Hey, the windows open for some teams
and um, you know my forty Niners left that window open.

(35:35):
The NFC, the a f C wild Card crazier than
ever before. We'll get to all that on Fox Sports Radio.
Be careful. Well, well, well, thanks for playing the classics.
Danny g I was Sam on the ones and twos,

(35:57):
David Gascon, It's Cavino and Rich. I would saying I
was a good guy, like I would saying we were
just opening the blinds here. There's actually a little sunshine
peeking through an l A. Not to sound like a complainer, bro,
because I know l A usually sun sunshine and beautiful weather,
but it's been pouring it. I loved it until I
got a leak at my roof. That's not fun. Until

(36:19):
I got a leak at my roof, I was like,
sweet rain, nightmare. Any anyone that's ever dealing with a
leak in the roof, going to your attict that going
to crawl space with a bucket. Remember we're talking to
everyone all over the country. You do sound like a
bit of a weenie, But California is just not prepared
for any sort of rain at all. The infrastructure is

(36:41):
just not built for that, the roads, the houses, the buildings.
So if it rains, you know, traffic is terrible, accidents everywhere,
there's leaks going on, so it sort of ruins everything.
The roof exact exactly I heard. I heard joy all
the way, and like I said, talking about how in
l A when a drizzle, the one on one on
the four oh five, all the annoying roads you hear

(37:02):
of if you don't live out here backed up because
people people are super cautious, but which I guess is
better than being The roads are extra slick because it
rarely rains, and when it does, you know, people don't
know how to react, and everyone ye you know, forgets
how to drive. Well, listen, here's the fun of it.
The down the bad thing is that COVID buzzer has disrupted,

(37:24):
has disrupted our lives, and you know, unfortunately people's health
and all that. Um. But we got some extra football
this week. You gotta look at the bright side. We
had football on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and now we have
games on Saturday, Christmas Day tomorrow. We'll get to that
in a little bit. And like I said, the playoff picture.
I love analyzing the playoff picture because there's so many

(37:44):
teams and so many possibilities will get to that. But Camino,
you and Danny j are cut from the same eye
rolling cloth of old school movies when it comes to
the Holidays. I mean, they're the classics. Danny g. You know,
I'm glad to hear that you're on my team. What
cloth is this, by the way, like leather? Like kick
ass leather. No, it's like it's like a crappy quarter

(38:06):
that you had to wear in grade school. Like we
in the pre show meeting, we were talking Christmas movies
and Rich had the nerve to say and and it's
crazy because my girlfriend now fiance, she has always told
me that she will not watch a Christmas movie unless
it's in color, so she's never seen It's a Wonderful Life.
And that's that's mind boggling to me because that Let

(38:29):
alone Christmas, that's one of the best movies of all time.
It really is. Danny. I can't disagree with you because
it takes you back right your to your childhood and
your mom and dad showing you that movie as a kid.
And you know, Clarence gets his wings at the end,
and George Bailey is the richest man in town or
whatever it is. But you know, Rich does not like
black and white movie nothing like I rolling the old

(38:52):
school and lame about that. Now listen Christmas Story. I'll
give a free pass. It's the one exception, but just
riches cut from a bozo sort of material that really
just can't sit there because it bothers his eyes or something.
I don't get it to me. I look at it
and say with elf love actually um home love, actually
straight garbage. And if anyone disagrees, again, we're Cavino and

(39:15):
Rich on Fox Sports Radio's eight seven seven nine on Fox.
That's our number. Odds have come out, Rich, Odds have
come out on like the best sort of Christmas movies,
and we we want to go over them today Christmas Vacation.
It's so gambling, man, there's so many you could throw
out there that if you're gonna watch some old school
like I heard and we're gonna go with the odds Coveno.
But I heard you and Danny g both saying, oh yeah,

(39:37):
Miracle on Street. I'm like, it's a miracle that anyone
would watch that. You gonna watch Miracle onto Street? What
about the remake, though there was a remake made with
the guy from Jurassic Park. The remake is good, So
remake is good, Danny, Danny, think about this. They're still
playing that movie. What was that made? Playing that movie? Right?

(40:01):
They fart out Hallmark in Lifetime movies every year, multiple movies.
Those things don't have staying power, lasting power. You know why,
because they're not good. There may be good for the moment.
They're one and donce. You watch them once. I don't
even do that, but they're one and Donce. You can't
compare the classics to these one and done garbage movies
that Rich just seems to love. You have to have

(40:23):
this cheese element about you to even sit through these movies.
I don't have that. We're gonna take your phone calls,
we're gonna take your feedback. I can't sit through some
crappy old black and white Miracle on thirty fourth Street movie.
When you have cheesy Netflix and Hallmark movies, when you
have classics like Elf, Love Actually, and I'll say it,

(40:44):
Love Actually, Christmas Vacation, Christmas with the Cranks. Does this
also means you've never watched Casablanca? Are you kidding me? No?
The answer is no, Rich has never seen any of this.
I've seen like ten seconds of it. More Covino, Rich
next hang Titan. Oh, what an honor? Cavino and Rich

(41:06):
the number eight seven seven nine nine on Fox, Rich
Davis my buddy Steve Camino who's visiting family in Idaho
again fingers crossed that I could just get a flight
back and hoping COVID doesn't ruin the travel plans because
it might ruin our playoffs. Hey, by the way, is
that a big potato in your pants? And Idaho? You're

(41:27):
just happy for the holidays. I'm just happy for the holidays, man,
and happy to be here for the four hour got
leave extravaganza. Than that's what it's called. Sweet. Yeah, So
thank you guys again. Hit us up at Covino and Rich.
Better yet, call us at eight seven seven on Fox
eight seven seven nine on Fox Wenna have some fun
today and we're gonna talk more football. But right now

(41:49):
we're talking about well holiday movies, Christmas classics because it's
Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas Eve, and Bleach your report put
out some odds, Rich on your top Christmas move movies.
We're gonna get to this but I'm gonna get to that.
I wanted to say, we've got a superstar crew. I
was Sam's in the house today, we have David Gascon
with the updates and Danny G. You and him, like

(42:10):
I said, cut from the same ridiculous eye rolling cloth
of your interest in old school Christmas movies. Hey, I'm
not saying, and I don't think Danny G is saying
this that if it's in black and white it's automatically awesome, because,
to be honest, you know, sometimes I don't want to
watch a black and white movie either, but these movies
have proven to stay in the test of time. There

(42:31):
of higher quality. You know, I think you're coming from
a place if you never even seen them, So how
would you know you're doing are glorifying? You're talking about
Bob Gibson instead of talking about Madison Bubba Gardner in
the playoffs. You're you're talking about Willie May's over the
shoulder when meanwhile, like guys make that catch every day
in the major But you're not talking about any current

(42:54):
great You're talking about movies Ontflix that they farted out
for the holiday season. You're talking about such a pea
brain that you sit there and watch this garbage. Those
movies are straight garbage. If you were talking currents elf,
then I'd say, okay, you're talking about two different things.
You're talking about the Joe Montana to Dwight Clark that catch. Meanwhile,
there's been fifty to a hundred better catches since I

(43:16):
wrote a list. I'm gonna zip through this like uh,
like my daughter's zippy the elf helf on the shelf.
Let me zip through this list. I'm gonna rapid fire
movies that are better than any black and white movie.
You and Danny g could bring up Elf, Love Actually,
Christmas with the Cranks, the Santa Claus Vacation, Scrooged Home

(43:39):
Alone one and two, any of the Grinches, Family Man, Jingle,
All the Way, Christmas Chronicles, the Night Before Office, Christmas Party,
Bad Santa for Christmas Is, Reindeer Games, Polar Express, Just Friends, Serendipity,
Jack Frost, and I would even go as far to
say Ernest saves Christmas. You get out of it again,

(44:00):
were just lost joking with the last one. You know,
he lost credibility when he said Love Actually, And I
know people love that movie, but there's no Christmas movie
that involves any porn scene. There's a porn scene in
that movie. It's it's, it's it's the most overrated Christmas
movie of all time. But Gremlins is a better Christmas
movie than that one, I think, Danny j I think

(44:21):
we cut from the cloth of awesome. That's what we're
cut from eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Again.
We're gonna go over the Christmas odds when it comes
to Christmas movies. But let's talk to Lynn and Florida.
You're hanging out with Pavino and Rich and for Doug Gottlieb. Hey,
how's it going guys? Then you know we forgot I
was Sam just reminded me Scrooged with Eddie uh with

(44:42):
I'm sorry, Bill Murray, good one. I do like Scrooged.
But you can't deny Miracle on Street. I admit that
it's a wonderful life dragon a little bit, But you know,
Miracle on thirty four Street is the best Christmas I'd
rather hear al Michael's talked to cow heard about the

(45:02):
actual Miracle on Ice, which I think they did this week, right.
I mean, I have no interest in this at all.
A Miracle on thirty four Street really to this day,
cause you know you'll still want to watch it. I mean,
you mentioned some good ones there. I'm not gonna deny that,
but I'm saying that you and a lot of other
people listening waste their time watching garbage. The garbage ones,

(45:23):
the Lifetime, the Hallmark ones. Those aren't good. They're the
most predictable things you've ever seen, the worst actors under
the moon. But it's fun times, Like, I mean, what
do you rather watch? March of the Wooden Soldiers are
the handcuff for the holidays with rich nothing starring and
nothing against Mario Lopez, but nothing starring Mary Lopez, and

(45:43):
and part of Christmas is tradition, dude, you know what
I mean, Like, I'm sure there's better well I'm not
an egg not guy, but there's better drinks, right, but
people still drink it. You know, there's better cakes than
panatone and fruitcake, but it's part of the tradition. There's
better cookies than butter cookies, but part of the tradition.
So you're cutting this out. These movies are so old

(46:04):
and such part of the culture in the celebration, you
think anything on Netflix, any of these lifetime movies are
even close to coming near part of the tradition. Now
they haven't. It's like this, hold on, let me explain
one more thing. We're gonna talk to Christine. It's very
tough to crack that Christmas code. You see it in music, right.

(46:25):
We we still play the classics every once in a while.
And Mariah Carey, even though that was thirty years ago,
Maria Carriyer, Kelly Clarkson, they cracked the code and their
songs become classics. When it comes to movies, it's also
few and far between. There are good ones. I used
to believe of them, stink. I used to believe in

(46:46):
the Christmas code a little more. But now I feel
like every year Christmas music like Kelly Swift has a song,
Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton. It's there's some really good
stuff that's newer. You don't need to listen to a
Bing Crosby. It hasn't it has been written yet. You
can't say that, Yeah, well, I think gonna be played,
you know, fifty years from now. You don't know that.

(47:07):
Let's say what's up to Christine in Wisconsin? Hey Christine? Hi,
Well you guys are rather vehement in your opinions. My god,
thank you. I think I have to look up vehement
and let me look this up. What's going on? I
think you guys, I think it's a generational thing, you know.

(47:29):
I mean, like Miracle and thirty four Street. It's an
awesome movie, you know, but you don't like watching black
and white movies because you're probably young, you know. So
that's what I'm thinking. I mean, I think it's a
generational thing. I love else that's like one of my
favorite Christmas stories. Um, I love It's a wonderful life.

(47:50):
That's the best. Miracle, thirty four Street is great. I mean,
they're all good. They all It's all about what matters
to you. That's true. I'd be listen, this is all
subjective steam But if I don't fight with Covino and
put him in his place and he tries to do
the same with it is generational. But there's also something
factual here. You can't tell me that bing Crosby's White

(48:10):
Christmas isn't better than in Sinc's version or whatever goofy
version Rich wants to watch or listen to, you know
what I mean? Like that that is not as of
quality as as a Bingleberry Crosby. What makes bing Crosby quality?
Compare it to sports. You're the first guy that always
says we glorify, we glorify. I'm talking about greats though,

(48:33):
I'm talking about greats. Yes, there's been some great moments
in sports that don't get the credit they deserve. You're
gonna tell me that these Hallmark movies. Stop saying Hallmark,
I never vouch for them, Dude, I never vouch. You
just know it's not like I just met you today.
I know you waste your time watching, but you know
what you're You're you're neglecting to realize what point I'm

(48:53):
not making our personal lives the point of making on
the show today and I listed freaking fifty movies. They
at Ernest Saves Christmas and i'd uh Felix in Fresno.
What up Christmas? Merry Christmas? Your filthy animal? Is that
too new for you? Give? You know it's the nineties?
What's up? Nothing about? I just wanted to um address

(49:18):
a last night's game. I'm a long time for the Niners,
and I'm I go back to that eight Super Bowl
against Inincinnati. Okay, let me, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something, Felix. I remember that game
because I was a little kid, and I remember crying
in my bedroom thinking that Montana wasn't gonna win it,
and then when he did, I cried happy tears. I
remember being a little a little cry baby about that.

(49:39):
Was like where mom? I remember that and that much
has changed much? Not much has changed. And that's Montana
that everybody likes to remember. But people tend to forget
about the Joe Montana. They didn't show up sometimes and
he laid an egg in the playoffs to get to Minnesota.
And so you know the point I'm trying to make it,

(50:01):
you know, Um, that's why it's not all on the quarterback.
Sometimes they're not gonna show up. It doesn't mean that
they're trash. It doesn't mean that they're inconsistent, doesn't mean
that they're horrible. It just means they're human. This is
why it's a team sport. The last night was one
of those games. They had a horrible outing, you know,
and at the end, you know, he did what he could.
He tied the game, and then then it was up

(50:23):
to the defense. Uh, the Niners have to play a
complete game. All four quarters. They've been inconsistent at the
team since the beginning of the season. I will say this.
I will say this, Felix, because I'm much like you,
big fan. I don't think they're far off from the
other NFC teams. There's no NFC team, Felix, that I
think is so dominant. Like, if you tell me the

(50:44):
Niners are playing any team in the NFC tomorrow, the
only one where I'd be like, they're gonna lose, it's
probably Green Bay. The forty Niners could compete with the
Dallas Cowboys, they could compete with anyone else in the
NFC West. The Bucks are banged up big time right now.
So is there anyone that you're like, Wow, the Niners
who get murdered by anyone? Maybe if Aaron Rodgers is
on the money. Besides that, I think you're playing close

(51:06):
with anyone. I agree with you. Rich Hey, Felix for mean,
thanks buddy, before you go, wait, everything asked the important
conects the most important question. What's his favorite Christmas movie?
It's Christmas Eve hanging out with Cavino and Rich Let's
John see what he says Redondo Beach. John, what's up buddy,

(51:27):
hey man, I hardly ever call the phone. But you're
so off on Willie Mays's catch and Clark's catch. Willie
Mays made that catch play in shallow centerfield in the
World Series. He was the first guy to do it.
Sure everyone does it now, but they've seen it. And
the same with Clark. Clark got him in their first
Super Bowl. I mean they beat the Cowboys and Everson Walls.

(51:49):
I mean, don't don't tri trivia things because other guys
can do it now. I think those guys made significant
plays at big time. You know, that's a great point.
Like Jim Edmunds, a guy like him would have caught
those balls in his back pocket. But you know, that's
the first time we saw such a thing. I want
it's a good point. I just want John to note

(52:10):
I did that on purpose, just to get you mad.
On Christmas Eve. Um, you know, speaking of Christmas movies,
I'll tell you this. I was the first person to say, Yo,
if you're gonna watch The Grinch, you gotta watch the
old school cartoon or the Jim Carrey version. My daughter,

(52:30):
who's a little kid, four years old, she turns on
The Grinch. I'm like, well, what is this? It was
the one with It's a cartoon where Benedict Cumberbatch does
the voice. Yo yo, I was, sam, I was. I
was skeptical, like, what's this garbage? It came out like
two years ago. It was good. I hated to say
because in my mind I was. And then I put

(52:51):
on the Grinch one. Jim Carrey is so good. Who's
scaring my kid? The people that don't know this is
the updated animated version that he speaks of, because I
still think Jim Carrey performances is upper echelon upper tier
when it comes to Christmas. Doubt, no doubt, com you know,
that's one thing we could agree upon. I'm just saying
I dismissed the Grinch animated one from a couple of
years ago, thinking like, who needs it? We got the

(53:13):
original cartoon and we got Jim Carrey. It's likable, it's good.
I watched it with my kids the other day. So
here's what Bleacher Report has to say about this again.
They say it's time for the Christmas movie m V
p Odds and you're a gambling man, Riche, So break
it down for us um plus twelve fifty Christmas Vacation

(53:33):
plus eleven hundred Just Friends, because that is a Christmas
movie and it's a good one. I feel like that's
an underrated Christmas movie with our guy Ryan Reynolds. It's
a good one. Based on that, Based on that, the
list to show me the m v P odds. It's uh,
they're saying right now, if you were to take a survey,
because they're not playing a game. So this is it's

(53:53):
a silly mettal, it's a silly waddle list. You know,
Bleacher Report listing their favorite movies. What would you consider
the m v P. They have the ELpH at plus one.
They think that Elpha is number one, which is a
hard the current day classics. The only thing I would
argue is Jim Carrey's Grinch. I'll tell you what I
don't like about their list. They their second highest ranked

(54:13):
at geez plus one seventy five is a Christmas story.
And I don't, I know you hate I just think
that's like when you look at all the others in
comparison now, like Christmastar isn't not that great like compared
to the other ones, And that's funny. Has yeah, yeah,
fred g l A and uh, you know, don't forget
to drink your old teams moments, but generate them of overexposure.

(54:35):
I think we're just so sick of it because they
play it all the time, and and it doesn't like
meet that expectation because you're like, Wow, for them to
play this continuously all throughout Christmas, it must be an
amazing movie. So you're sort of letting down. It's still
a good movie. Putting down it's like Mariah Carey Christmas music.
It is overplayed. It's nostalgic. I mean, there's they they

(54:57):
rub like vasiline on the lens to make everything kind
of like warm and bright through the whole movie, and
and people watch it. They it's just like tradition for them.
You know how in the sports world, I was Sam
Danny g you guys are you know, you guys are
the best of this. You guys, you guys were working
at Fox for a while. You know. In the world
of sports radio, like the go to boring conversations are

(55:19):
probably like Lebron versus m J who would have won?
I'll leave versus Tyson? Like the go to like, yo,
nothing's going on today. You could tell this host is struggling.
Those it shut down topics. Yeah, like the boring conversation COVID,
but you buzz buzzer yourself. I always say, I'm thank you.
So I think if you're gonna have the worst conversation,

(55:42):
I think up there with Lebron versus MJ are the
people that argue die Hard in Christmas Movie. It's like
the worst arum. It's the worst argument of all time.
It's like, yo, like I wanted Danny and Sam when
Rich and I agree, it's fact. It's the most tired
argument after Lebron versus IF. I saw some school friends
posting about it over the last maybe last year, this year,

(56:03):
and I'm like, you, you're better than that. Stop it.
I don't care, you're better than that. Stop it. Die
Hard He's one of the greatest movies of all time.
For people to think, it's like they're cool. Answer to
what's your favorite Christmas movie? Movie? You know I love Hard.
It's like, all right, dude, you're the coolest guy in
the room. What do you want to say, Like, it's
a great movie. Yeah, that's a Christmas backdrop. Don't tell

(56:23):
me Diehards a Christmas movie. Move on, stop it. Stop
it doesn't the second one take place around Christmas as well,
the snow falling at the airport. I mean, of course,
like we're watching in the background that we were watching
the second time we were watching reindeer games. It's like
Christmas movie. The feeling of that guy bringing it up,
acting as if he's telling you that and you're hearing

(56:43):
it for the first time. I'll tell you my favorite
Christmas movie, die Hard. It's a Christmas movie, you know,
And you're like, yeah, I've We've heard that argument for
like the past fifteen years. And the same guy that
tells you, you know what my favorite Christmas movie is,
die Hard, it's the same guy that says, hey, you know,
for every good looking girl, there's a guy that's sick
of sleeping with her. Ever, like, it's the same guy

(57:04):
that tells you it's the same guy. It's like, you
didn't invent this theory. You didn't invent that saying I've
heard it for years, I get it, and you're still
rolling with that, which is odd to me because I'm assuming,
you know what, I'm assuming when I hear that rich
I'm assuming that this guy just finally realized that, like
that that news just got to him. It's like where
have you been? Well? Hey, on that note, let's talk

(57:26):
some playoff football. We'll talk some more Christmas stuff, having
a fun time. It's Christmas Eve filling it for Gottlieb,
Caveno and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Loves this. Oh,
it's fantastic. Jim Carrey at his greatest, The Grinch. I'd
say current classics, The Grinch and Elf, you know, Marry

(57:50):
Christmas Eve were Cavino and Rich and for Doug Gottlieb.
What's going on? Something you and I could agree on
Jim Carrey. By no means am I saying underrated? He's
pretty rated. But I think because he's a comedic actor,
you were showing me something where he's trending. By the way,

(58:12):
Comino's FaceTime calling me, Hi, Buddy, Riches on the West
Side right now, and I can't see your goofy face,
so I want to say, what's up, Hi, buddy? Good luck?
Fun than your dad. So I think you and I
could agree that because he's comedic, he doesn't maybe get
the credit for, like yo that performance because you were

(58:34):
saying he was trending, because people were saying him as
the Grinch is comparable to like Heath Ledger as the
joker right right? And is there other roles that are
just so dominant maybe in the sports world, other sports movies.
We're gonna talk about that and more throughout the day.
More football eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox again
at Coveno Enrich on social media. Shout out to Siege

(58:57):
and LTP and mercer Man, Funky Monk He and a
lot of the Covino and rich listeners that hang with
us throughout the week and know us from Fox Football Sundays.
It's a pleasure to be here again. Merry Christmas and
all that good stuff. Thanks all the feedback, all the
phone calls. Hit us up at Covino and Richard calls
at eight seven, seven ninety nine Fox. I don't think
anyone could really debate that Jim carry it and just
slay that performance. Rich No hold on. I wanted to

(59:19):
give someone a shout at because someone last night asked
me if I ever get tired of being wrong? Oh Hunter,
Hunter nuts is the guy? Hit me up? He goes, yeah,
Rich on Fox Sports Radio, do you ever get tired
of being wrong? Like bro, I get tired of being wrong.
I get tired because I got two little kids. I
got tired because I don't sleep well. I got tired
for a lot of reasons. Bro for being wrong, it's
one of them. Yeah, tired being wrong. But here's the

(59:41):
difference between our show and a lot of other shows. Um, hey,
we like you, Hey, we kind of like each other.
We're friends outside of this, even though there's many times
we can't stand each other. We've been doing us a
long time together. But we do take accountability and we
admit when we're wrong. We're fans. We're fans first. We
never claim to be at Spurts were fans. I'll tell
you right now. Sports. When it comes to sports gambling.

(01:00:03):
In the beginning of the year, yeah, I was. I
was on fire. I felt like uh, I felt like
I was Jim Kramer on Mad Money. I was like,
bar so why everything? I was betting on overs, unders
Parlay's teasers, win, win, win, win, And then the middle
so hot I am so I'm like, I'm like, cancel,
I'm so hot right now. But then the middle of

(01:00:23):
the season, I was cold as ice. I couldn't, as
I said in NBA jam, I couldn't buy a bucket.
Who saved that later? Because we're gonna talk video games,
but I wanted to talk a little NFL playoff picture.
Not not necessarily the playoff picture Camino, but I was talking.
I was Sam, who really enjoys company. No offense to

(01:00:46):
a Bobo because I love Bobo too. Bubbo didn't even
hit me up. I thought Bubba would thank me because
the fort is losing clinched a Cowboys playoff spot. I
thought I would get a little like, Hey, Merry Christmas,
you're a nine or something my Cowboys. But Bobbo must
be too busy. Ask you a fun question that we've
debated throughout the years. Rich You know Bobo our our
associate producer on our Sunday night show here on Fox

(01:01:08):
Sports Radio. He's a big time Cowboys fan. They clinched,
your team lost, They blew it. We talked about it
first hour. If you missed anything, catch it later on
Fox Sports Radio dot com. When your team clinches or
your buddy's team clinches, is it worthy of a congratulations?
Not that they're part of it, but is that part

(01:01:29):
of the just part of the expectation. You know, you
gotta go with the good in bed Like Danny j
is a big Raiders fan. If I'm gonna give him
a high five and congratulate and like, yo, bro, your
Raiders or something. I equally have to bust his chops
when they lose. I think that's what friends do. And
I don't think you'd rub it in and I don't
think you should be a jerk, But I think the

(01:01:51):
same guy that should be like, Yo, your team blew it.
It's the same guy that you say, Hey, I know
you root for him. Yeah, good for you. Hi five. No,
there's so many people against it, like, yeah, why would
they expect the congratulations. It's like, well, because you know,
I root for that team. I'm mentally invested in that team.
My mood is up or down depending on if they
win or lose. So I think I don't think it

(01:02:13):
congrats is necessary, but you know it's it's an okay
gesture if your buddy, you know, is having a good
day because his team one you guys have talked about
it on the Sunday Night Show. You think of certain
friends and certain people when you see their team playing.
So that's normally when I text somebody at the end
of a game because they're they're the one I'm thinking of.

(01:02:35):
I'm I'm thinking of Rich crying in the fetal position
when the Niners lose. You know it's uh, that is
so funny, and you know what, that's something coming. And
I have preached before on our serious XM show back
in the day or wherever we are, is the friendship maintenance.
What a great way because you know, we get busy
people got kids and jobs and lives and everything. That's

(01:02:56):
a good way to hit up an old buddy if
his team wins big bow so that you hung with
in the past, that roots for that team. Yeah, Like, well,
you know, if you've got a friend that's a Titans
fan and you saw they won a big game last
night and you've been talked to win months, that might
be a quick little yoho good for your Titans, very Christmas,
but a bridge. Yes, it's a nice breaker. Nice um.

(01:03:18):
Now as we get closer to the playoffs, that's seventeen
game it is the best for your eyes too, and
knowing that there's like that extra like you're so used
to a sixteen game win loss ending, like what is
ten and seven is that it's not as good as
ten and six used to be, But ten and seven
seems to maybe be the if you're ten and seven,
you got a shot at the playoffs. Might be the
new number. But I was talking to Iowa Sam Coveno

(01:03:40):
during the break and we're saying of the playoff teams,
we're not dealing with a old school forty Niners or
Cowboys in the nineties that would just kill everybody. We're
not talking about the Peyton Manning Colts where if it
was if it was that team or Tom Brady's Patriots,
you're getting double digit odds in the first round or
sell the playoffs. We've seen a lot of parody every

(01:04:03):
you know, the overused word of the year for me,
parody because parody, so much parody, well, there's so much
so that I said, hey, listen, even a wild card weekend,
the one seed gets a buy. But even the two
versus the six seed, I'm sorry, the two verses the
seven seed and the three versus the sixth seed. Do
you even see those point spreads coming out of Vegas

(01:04:27):
more than a touchdown? I don't see any of that. Like,
if you told me right now, Cowboys or Bucks versus Cardinals, Niners,
Rams or Vikings or Philly, those are all gonna be
like three or four point spreads, because no one is
that was a gambling fool. How do you approach that
sort of scenario. You just stay away from it completely.

(01:04:49):
It's gonna be really tricky because in the past you'd say,
let maybe I'll tease down the power team just to win.
Right now, it's because I agree with you, man, these
are too close to call for sure. Dude. When the
Arger's Cults, Ravens, Bengals, Bills are all eight and six,
and then one game better than them Patriots at nine

(01:05:09):
and five, the Chiefs might be the only team that's
favored by double digits over someone. And if the Chiefs
happen to play like I don't like Cleveland or but
not even then I don't know. I'm just saying, take
take a look ahead. If you're a gambling person, realized
that this is this, this playoff is gonna be insane
because it's all gonna be like field goal point spreads. Yeah,

(01:05:30):
and not to wish anything bad on any star player
or any team in the playoffs, but maybe someone with
COVID you could buzz it again, you know, could make
make a bigger difference in these odds, because you know why. Originally,
what's thinking about you. Every one's thing with the oh
maicron is that it doesn't affect people they're vaccinated, especially

(01:05:53):
I know people in my family as we speak, not
that I'm in direct contact with, So don't worry about it.
I'm good that are suffering pretty drastically, you know, really sick,
really hit, and they were vaccinated, so you never know
how some of these players could react. It still affects
people differently. Well, so what I'm saying is, you know,
you never know what can happen from now until the

(01:06:15):
playoffs that could take someone down and they're affected by this. Well,
hopefully done that everything. Hopefully you don't get O macron
and you're stocking tomorrow morning. Let's see what's trending. No
one's better than what's up, buddy. I have a confession
to make. When my friends teams are losing, I want
to put their head in the ground. You're that guy,

(01:06:37):
that guy. Let me let me tell you here, there's
nothing in my life that I enjoy more than seeing
the Raiders lose and most recently the Iowa Hockeys get
blown out by Michigan. It's just what it is, man.
I do think of you when Bridgewater goes down in
a ball on the because I just want to. I don't.

(01:06:57):
I don't know where this comes from. Guys, I will
in defense of your statement, I will say, like if
Danny g is a Raider fan and he put heavy
money on the Raiders, then that would give it an acknowledgment. Well,
David doesn't end that sports because it seems to be
kicks me when you're damn David hits up his friends,
was like, you're divorced. It's like that you know your

(01:07:20):
girl cheated on you, swirling gas gun over there, calls
for a divorce party right the raw at that, But
it goes with you, guys, hazy that when you guys
play sports back in the of course. But you know what,
I think of two things, Like last night one of
my buddies hit me up. He's like tough one, and
I was like, yeah, that's a nice response. But if

(01:07:41):
I have the friends that are like, ha ha, your
team lost, I want to I want to like punch
him in the nose in that moment. And see, I
have some odd friends oddly enough, they like they know
my tactics in some way. But I'm a huge Deebo
Samuel fan's great and so last night I have two
friends that are diehard San Francisco fan that I'm like,
Trust and Debo. Deebo knows like Debo knows business like

(01:08:04):
whatever it was. And the game. They're like, you're an
a hole, you chick my team, your cancer. I'm just like, dude, like,
what do you want from many on the support your team?
If you just to give you one more quick story
before we get the trending. I remember the rudest thing
ever done to me, you know, when I was when
I was a teenager, my younger brother, the forty Niners

(01:08:25):
lost a playoff game to the Brett Farve Packers. Drend
Da Darren Da Da Go parak Go. I was aggravated.
I was miserable. I got home. You know, my brother,
my little brother, had bought green and yellow balloons like
Party City and put him in my bedroom. Yeah. I
almost I almost murdered my little sibling. I remember being like, yo,
you do that again, I'm gonna I might kill you, haid.

(01:08:50):
What what is trending outside of COVID, Well some good news.
The cod Front guys Browns activated Baker Mayfield today and
they've also activated Jarvis Landry. So the bad news is
they have a tough game this weekend, but at least
those two guys can give it a go. Damian Harris
is questionable for weeks sixteen against the Bills or Modre
Stevenson is out with the flu. He won't play against Buffalo.

(01:09:12):
David Johnson list is questionable for Houston. They get the
l A Chargers. Mike Evans is out for weeks sixteen,
quitting Nelson the Colts. He's out for weeks sixteen. Nick
Foles will start for the Bearers this weekend. And also
Janice is gonna work out today. He actually cleared the
NBA's health and safety protocols. He could play tomorrow, but
he's gonna workout today. See how it feels tomorrow morning.
Hey Dave, if anyone's wondering, and I worked out today too,

(01:09:35):
did you Yeah? On the treadmill, I did some curls
for the girls. It was more of a week out
because it was kind of a week workout. Now here's
the I want. I want the confession from you. Do
you do the treadmill closest to the mirror? It was
me and like two old ladies. Uh oh, I didn't
we were on a really powerful walk at a three

(01:09:56):
point five. I picked the treadmill. I'm not creepy, stay
we ring guy at the gym, but I do pick
a treadmill close to like a good looking people. I
will say that it's extra motivation, right of course. Yeah.
I mean you don't want to like gas out when
there's like hot people around you, exactly. I mean it
could be a Friday night Friday with Sam, but we
won't get into that. Right back to you guys, by

(01:10:18):
the way, talking about two games tomorrow on Christmas Day,
Brown's Packers, Cults Cardinals. How do you feel about this
teaser bet since uh, you know half I was so
hot at the beginning either then got called. Now I'm
getting hot again. How do you feel about both underdogs
just getting more points because it's Christmas, It's we're getting
close to the playoffs, closer games. What do you think

(01:10:39):
about Colts plus eight and Brown's plus thirteen and a half.
I like the Cults plus eight, I think, but I
think they're going to shut up beat the Cardinals, so
I think some good momentum and the Cardinals are kind
of you know, I want to be opposed to picking
the Colts money line in that game, just a straight back.
But if you're gonna do a teaser, Colts plus eight

(01:11:00):
their two point underdogs, so make it eight. And then
green Bay is a seven and a half point favorite.
Get the get the Browns plus thirteen and a half.
Do you think the Browns hanging that game? Because if
not done, do you think they now you don't think
they hang Baker Mayfield? Look for the record, is Cavino
and Rich. I'm Cavino. I'm not a gambling type of
dude at all, but I can tell you that I

(01:11:20):
think the Cults Cardinals game is more intriguing there. Yeah,
you're boye Coveno is a boring friend in Vegas. You
know what he doesn't like. He doesn't like to go
he doesn't like to gamble or go to strip clubs.
Like what did they like that? He's like, let's start
to start to sell lame U. They're fantastic there, you people.
Let's go to the Beatles. Oh show, Oh my er

(01:11:43):
um Beatles love that's not the show. Um, but yeah,
Brown's I think that, you know, the Browns could play
themselves out of the playoffs tomorrow and green Bay is
do you don't think they're like d for a letdown
game or is that a couple weeks ago versus Minnesota agreed.
I think it was a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
I think they're the team to look out for eleven
and three. If they win out fourteen and three, one

(01:12:06):
seed Aaron Rodgers coasts to the end. And what I
what I said about you know COVID before. I mean,
Mayfield's back, right, but is he really a p You
say that you've had COVID brain for the last two months. Dude,
I'm still dealing with it. And I caught COVID in
October and I have the COVID, I the COVID foot.
I still got, like you know, after effects here, I

(01:12:27):
still got any ailment. Now. I just blame it on COVID. Uh,
it's probably just me getting older, like oh my back.
But I'm telling you, I have relatives right now that
have COVID, and yeah they're maybe they're maybe they're done
with it, maybe they're technically Uh they could move on
in ten days or whatever. And past every test, there's

(01:12:47):
three options in which they could get reinstated again in
the NFL, you know, so there's more options easier to
play again. But does that really mean that they're feeling
all that great. I wouldn't put my money on that.
I mean, I am though, I'm no doctor. I'm a
Facebook doctor. I don't know have you guys? Are you
guys Facebook doctors? Because that everyone thinks they are you?
Are you? You do have a massive dome that I

(01:13:09):
do have a big head rich Davis. But I will
say I know nothing about medicine. I trust doctors. That's
what you do, right or you you could question people,
but you trust doctors for the most part. Now, there's
gonna come a time if we all agree. And I
hate COVID talk. You buzz me ten times to talk
about COVID, But you ever think about this, and you're
in your and in our defense, it's a huge story

(01:13:33):
right now. You can't avoid Yeah, well yeah, we sort
of got off it for a minute, right we thought
everything was was getting better. So you try to avoid
that convers I believe right in the forefront again, I
believe a month ago I proclaimed it's over that my bad.
You did everything you could to not talk about But
how could you avoid it? Now? My thought is this,

(01:13:54):
there will come a time, right if this is something
that's not going to quote go away, aren't we just
understanding that will come a time where the NFL is like, yeah,
people can play with it. It's not gonna be you
can't permanent. You're not gonna that's that's the next stage
of this, because that's why they've made it. I don't
want to stay easier to get back in, but they've

(01:14:15):
gave they've given more options. I think eventually reinstated. I
think eventually it's going to be something we live with
and when I say live with it meaning like yo,
if if you get it, like people might not even
know about a testing. I don't think we're do you
think we're gonna for the next years and years of
our life? You think we're every week where you have
to worry about players not playing and people not showing

(01:14:36):
up at their jobs. I think eventually it's gonna be like, hey,
this is sort of the life we live now, adjust
or not. I don't think we're gonna be talking about
COVID protocols and two football seasons for now, maybe maybe
another half a year. But you think in like do
you see you Kylo Murray is on the COVID list
that crap is not gonna happen in two years. I
promise you agree with you? All right? Well, on that note,

(01:14:59):
you're owne calls your feedback. Let's get to it. Coveno
and rich In forgotlie, But we have more Fox Sports
Radio next, some Home Alone action. Oh, Coveno and rich
In forgotlie? Fox Sports Radio again. Home Alone two better

(01:15:20):
than Home Alone one? No, it's not that hot of
a take. A lot of people agree with you, Yeah,
a lot of people agree with second one is good,
but I don't know if it's John Candy. I mean,
you're right, John Candy and A get The original is classic,
but there's there's something about Home Alone Too, New York City, weird,
Tim Curry, weird bird Lady, Yeah, Tim Curry in the Hotel,

(01:15:41):
Um this fun, this fun sports parts of Home Alone Too.
They're both classic, but the first one is more classic. Yeah,
you know, maybe I'll watch us tonight with the kids.
You know, weird the original. That's a whole other discussion
in itself. It's like, how many times it's the sequel
really better than the original show. That's rare. The second
one is good, but is it better than the first

(01:16:01):
that's it's debatable, but a lot of people do like
the second one, and that would that is a current
day classic that broke the Christmas code. It's a it's
Christmas years old, thirty years old, you know, but you
keep you black and white. It's like that meme where
it's like thirty years ago. You think it's like nineteen
seventy something. No, thirty years ago is one. We're separated

(01:16:21):
by a millennium. So like you do used to think
like thirty years ago was nineteen seventy eight or something. Yeah, exactly.
And by the way, speaking of which, nineteen seventy nine
not only an amazing year because I was born, that
was the last year John Madden coach the Oakland Raiders
at the time when they were the Oakland Raiders. And
that documentary hits Fox tomorrow All Madden, which premieres that

(01:16:44):
two pm Eastern on Fox and Camino. I saw this.
I was reading the article about it is legendary coaching career,
broadcasting career is being celebrated on Fox Christmas Day, and
I love any documentary. You know. That's again a discussion
maybe for another day. But did we just get to
a wiser place in our life. I doubt this where

(01:17:05):
we could absorb and appreciate these documentaries or did the
quality of documentaries just get that much. I think people
in the documentary world you gotta get You gotta give
credit where credits due, like some of the folks that
make the thirty for thirties and some of these great
Netflix documentaries. When we were kids, a documentary Tom Brady's
one that we're both watching right now, it's fantastic, fantastic. Um,

(01:17:27):
you know what happens When we were kids, They throw
on some crappy movie on the VCR that your school
teacher didn't know how to use, and it was boring.
Now maybe, yeah, maybe we are older and wiser, but
documentary used to just be synonymous with boring. Now you
know they're good. You you watch a documentary can you
know about a dude and an octopus? And you said

(01:17:47):
it was great? I mean it was an Academy Award.
My octopus teacher, I think he uh, I think he
and the octopus had familiar relations. I'm not sure it's possible,
but All Madden. All Madden comes out tomorrow and it
ties into something. You know, you and Danny g talking
about old movies that are in black and white a
lot of kids. Because I blame myself too. I'm not

(01:18:08):
even a kid. I'm a fort year old man. Um,
you're forty year old man boy. I'm a man boy,
and so am I. But I'll be honestly that's true.
I am the only movies prior to nineteen eighty that
I could really get with Rocky, Jaws, and The Godfather
that was like the to me. There's like such a

(01:18:29):
limited scope of like what would keep someone's interest if
you told some younger kid, tell some twenty year old
kid out of college to watch a movie prior to night.
I think the only ones their Jaws, Rocky, maybe maybe
The Godfather. Besides that, so to think that they know
of Wars Star Star Wars. Rich doesn't like that. Hey,

(01:18:51):
I'm sure there's some cheap eighties comedies with some nude
scenes that you probably like, Rich, that your dad probably
enjoyed growing up. You just haven't seen him, but I
know where you're going. Most kids today I don't even
know who John Madden is. No, you ever see those
TikTok challenges where they're like, hey, like put your hand
up or whatever. If you know this song, and there's
songs that you're like, how on earth don't you know this?

(01:19:12):
And they probably do it to upset you know, people
like our h but it's infuriating. I could promise you though,
if you surveyed a hundred college kids sitting around their
dorm smoking weed, playing Madden, twenty would know how is that?
How many would know the resume, the true resume? How
many kids would know like, oh, yeah, he coached the

(01:19:33):
Raiders and he was an announcer for Fox for years,
Like how many? I don't know if they know the specifics,
they would probably say I think he was a broadcat.
He might not even know he was a coach. So
I'll say I'll give him even a little more credit
that your average college One out of three college kids
knows the story. Who John Madden really is? Yeah, he's
he was a football guy, coach, broadcaster, you know now,

(01:19:55):
But they know him primarily only because of a video game.
By the way, there is there a part of this
documentary dedicated to a tough act into acting or ace hardware,
But you know, I don't know the backstory of that. See,
we can't come down on the we kneels and the
college kids today who don't know did he have like
a bad athletes foot problem? That that that I'm unaware of.

(01:20:19):
I don't know, not the name drop, but you and
I did interview Emmett Smith about gout one, so who
knows what people deal with? My tootsies are on fire, boom.
So the Madden documentary, I think this is great because
the same way we talked about how as generations passed,
people don't know the greatness of like a bo Jackson.

(01:20:40):
Thank god there was a documentary made right people may
not have known about Jordan to the extent right of
how great he was. Last Dance came out. This All
Madden documentary on Fox Sports. I think it's gonna shed
a lot of light and I think it's gonna remind
people that are even in their thirties, forties, fifties, like,
oh yeah, I forgot all that was John Madden. Watch

(01:21:03):
an old clip. Growing up, every big game, John Madden
was a good chance he was the announcer, and then
before that, before he was he was the youngest coach
at the time. And when when our parents were you know,
when you were just a twinkle in your dad's vodinkle. Yeah,
I mean, he's he's eighty five, right. He stopped broadcasting
in two thousand and eight. So to be fair to

(01:21:24):
younger people of today, you know, how would they be
aware of them? They only know him from the video game.
So that being said, we're gonna talk some old school
video games some of you may have gotten for Christmas
back in the day. I love it so old school
video games. Your thoughts. The All Madden documentary on Fox tomorrow,

(01:21:47):
the number eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox. More
coming on Rich next, Oh, yeah, bringing it. We're bringing
it today. They're really we're promising. I mean, I don't
know if we're bringing it. Uh, Like Drew Barrymore, I
forgot you even had a show, Yes, Steve Erkele on
our TV show today. What are we doing? Guys? How

(01:22:09):
do we not book Erkele, Danny come on and Steves.
He sells blunts these days, purple purple ercles big in
the streets. Well, now I know what I'm getting my
stocking stuff. That being said, Merry Christmas Eve to all,
and to all, a good day, Happy Holidays to everybody else.

(01:22:30):
Thank you guys for hanging out with us. We are
Cavino and Rich shout out to Doug Gottlieb. We're here
with Danny g David Gascon Iowa sam our numbers eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox And if you don't call in,
you can always chime in at Covino and Rich and
if you missed anything Fox Sports Radio dot Com. I'm
Steve Cavino. That's Rich Davis, and we're talking about John

(01:22:51):
Madden before we talk more about the games tomorrow. Boom,
my feet are on fire. Boom, I need tough acting
to acting. Boom. So we're talking about Chi Madden because
the legendary coach and broadcaster was celebrated on Fox tomorrow
on a Christmas Day documentary. And what Rich was saying

(01:23:12):
before is that this is a great opportunity for for
the we Niels, you know, younger college kids to know
more about this guy, because all they probably know is
the football game. We came to the conclusion of probably
thirty of people in their twenties would know he was
a coaching broadcaster. By the way, is that the official
name for people in their twenties we Neils? Yeah? I

(01:23:34):
think I think it is. By the way, I did
a little homework meaning Wikipedia. Yeah, Okay, and by the way,
Wikipedia for I'm sorry, Wikipedia isn't always accurate. Yeah, they
said you had a lot of money. There was one
point this, Yeah it was true. It was true, and
then he took me off of Wikipedia. So that's therefore,

(01:23:56):
I don't care about the man anyway, according to Wikipedia.
I was cury. It's because off the air. Cano was like,
what's the story about a guy that passed on something?
And I was like, you're thinking of the Foreman grill. Well,
it's along the same lines. You ask any young person
out there, it might be common knowledge to you that
George Foreman was a heavyweight champion of the world, the

(01:24:18):
boxer that you know, legendary fights against Muhammad Ali and
Michael Moore. Right, of course, yes, young people they only
know the grill. I mean, they know he's a boxer.
But I know what you're saying. They're like, but some
people just know him as the Dean. I'm telling you,
I've done my research on this. I don't care about
WIKIPAEDI yet. This is Steve Covino's research. They're like, oh, yeah,

(01:24:41):
the guy who smiles, he looks like a yeah that dude, Yeah,
he's a he's a the grill guy. Well, he's even
said that to us. I remember we interviewed him. We've
we've also talked to the hulkstra brother brother and Hulk
Hogan got a phone from his agent about pimping some

(01:25:03):
grill and he missed a phone call and decided to
go out some weak blender instead. You know the story.
I think he's even told cow heard here on Fox,
but he told us the same story. So Hogan passed
on it. It became the Foreman Grill and he made
millions and millions. I'm looking up the history of Madden
in anticipation of the big documentary on Fox tomorrow. Get this.

(01:25:27):
You're thinking, who's involved? Early on they asked Joe Montana,
and Montana's like, no, can do. I got some deal
with the Ataria. Interested in working his butt out with
the sneakers. Yeah, avocados, by the way, I remember he
was he was pushing hass avocados at one point. So

(01:25:49):
he turned down the Madden gig for sketchers and avocade.
I mean he didn't turn it down. He had a deal,
like a loose deal with the tari So at the time,
thinking about it, early eighties when they were in the
development stages. Uh, Madden said boom, And then he said,
if it's a sophisticated version of a video game, because
he knew nothing about video games, no one did in

(01:26:10):
the early eighties, he said, as long as it's not
something dumb. He's like, if it's gonna teach people about
maybe more football plays and nohow, which is which I'll
be honest, Madden has taught so many people about the game,
So that's a big part of the story. I I
don't want it to go into the radar. What you're
saying right now is really what got Madden on board.

(01:26:31):
He wanted some credibility to this game. He ensured. He
wanted to make sure that this wasn't something like, you know,
crappy atari game that was out at that time. And
by the way, that is a true story. Joe Montana
one of my heroes as a child. The last time
he saw him, He's like, hey, guys, like yo, Joe
Montani's like, let me tell you about hass avocados or
like yo, for real Joe. You love him for the record,

(01:26:56):
but again, this is a great documentary to be my
ended of of his importance in football. Because I'm sure,
we don't know the whole story, but for younger people
to really get a better understanding. And in all fairness, dude,
he stopped coaching in night right, and then from seventy
nine to two thousand and eight he was the color

(01:27:16):
commentator for the NFL games. So it's been a long time,
I understand, but the game lives on. The game is legendary.
When you think of generational players. Oh, that's that's an
easy conversation. When you think of generational broadcasters. If you
watch football, if you were a big NFL fan in

(01:27:38):
the nineties into the early two thousand's, John Madden and
Pat some Roll, we're the team, right, I mean before that,
it was the hype was always about who's the Monday
night football team. And then networks that were in the
mix started to really step it up. Like think about
what you got with with Fox Bucking Aikman CBS Day

(01:27:59):
you know him, Nanson, Romo al Michael's and Chris Collinsworth
on NBC. You know, people are very particular about who's
their favorite broadcaster for a for a decade plus, we
all love Madden in summer roll. Yeah, but but a
college kid today was a little boy, just a little boy.
Madden was was calling games. So that leads us to

(01:28:21):
some of the most legendary video games. By the way,
you're gonna be in our childhood. You could think back
to your your Christmas mornings. You know what's sent under
the tree? Oh and it's you know, one of your
favorite tech mobile games? Perhaps, Well, you know what are
the most legendary. We're gonna say that Madden is sort
of the benchmark now of the grade. Now now, but

(01:28:44):
let's go old school. And by the way, you did
a pretty good job Madden before. I don't think you
gave me credit from my summer roll Iron Press Summer Roll.
No help, I'm sham roll now, not very I'm not bad. Okay,
I'm gonna throw my favorite old school Can we do
a couple of inch? Can I throw a few out there?
I mean sure, because I have the answer I have again,

(01:29:06):
I'm Cavino. That's rich. You have ages here, Dave Gascon,
iwa Sam, We're gonna get to your phone calls. I
want everyone to chime in here. I want to reminisce
a little bit eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
I have the be all and all my opinion better
than madd and no offense. As Kanye said to Sway,
you don't got the answer to Sway, you don't got

(01:29:27):
the answer to Kevin, I'm gonna throw it out there.
Not tech Mobile, tech Mo a super Bowl. The second
tech Mobile had a couple more plays and it was ship.
I think a lot of times the home alone two
of I think a lot of times when people reminisce
about tech Mobile, they're thinking Techmo super Bowl because that

(01:29:48):
was a really good game. Yeah, tech mobole mistaken retch
tech Mobile? You know Madden again. He signed on to
be part of Madden because he wanted actual plays and
kids to understand the game and how it works. If
I'm not mistaken. Tech Mobile, as far as I remember,
was probably the first game where you called some basic place. Yeah,

(01:30:10):
but Tech Mobile the original, if you remember, you had
four options. It was like run the ball. You had
five no meaning like if you had bo like Bo
Jackson was your only option. If you were playing the
real you could you could have Lawrence Taylor and Bo
Jackson unfair, but you had run play, run play, pass play,
and then down be was the bomb. Now, if your

(01:30:30):
opponent didn't pick that play, you could roll back to
your own end zone hard pass. You know what I'm
also U, let's give credit to that really dope graphic
when Marcus Allen would score and you get the high five.
That's where getting graphic was legendary. But I'm not sure
everyone is in a it's gonna agree with you that

(01:30:52):
the second one was better because I played the first one.
I'll tell you this, man, if you see someone by
the way over the next couple of days and you
forgot to get them something, be like, yo, no, it's
better than a gift, a tech Mobile high five, have
him a tech Mobile high five and let me throw
another one. Danny g I don't want to steal your
your thunder, so so I'll hand it over to you.
Because it's a basketball game. You and I both yeah.
In our pre show meeting, I told you guys, double dribble,

(01:31:15):
it was an arcade. Any I do the best like
rich does a really good pat some wrong, as we
heard I do a really good's double dribble and pressure here.
I don't know if the world's ready for this. Oh,
come on, that's second only to your planes of steel.

(01:31:35):
I got two words, and it's not Gottlie it's there.
It is. Once in a while my mom would let
me tag along with my older brother to go to
the arcade. There were three games. He would stand in
line for Double Dribble, Star Wars and Track and Field,
and him and his friends they had this whole system
down with pens pencils. They would glue popsicle sticks together

(01:31:59):
because they were you is it and toggle in one
hand to hit both of the speed buttons. Yeah, that's
why I love it. That's the case sold. They sold
like controls back then that could like speed up your
your pressing of the buttons. But your brother went with
popsicle sticks. They had to. My mom was But dude,

(01:32:20):
I gotta say, we all sort of agree with double Dribble.
That was a great game. And we got to give
again another tech Mobile high five to that. That really
great ahead of its time. Graphic of the slam dunk
without a doubt. And by the way, double dribble, Double
Dribble led, you know, lad to the next great basketball
game before all the NBA two k's and NBA Jam. Yeah,

(01:32:45):
I mean that was such a revolutionary. You go to
the baseball cart shop the arcade. Was that a thing
around here? On the West coast. On the East coast,
I feel like every baseball card shop had a couple
video games in the shop to like keep the kids occupied.
They would have like Doubled, they would have Kami, right,

(01:33:06):
but they would have Street Fighter and like games like that.
But they would also have NBA Jam And I always
thought that was such a sweet arcade game. Remember you
would get you would be on fire, but then you
couldn't buy a bucket sometimes, I gotta tell you, you
know that was that was a big arcade game. And
that might be different, right, but still worthy of bringing

(01:33:28):
up in conversation. How about you, Dave and Sam? I mean,
what comes to mind again? John Madden being celebrated tomorrow
in a new documentary. Also, it's also Christmas Day tomorrow,
takes you back to these games. You you open them up,
you were super stoked. What are the games that come
to mind for you in the legendary department? I think

(01:33:49):
I have to go back to when I learned about geography,
and that dates back to Street Fighter too. Yes, it's
a good one. It's a good one. I mean that
was the arcade version. So I know if you guys
ever saw this, I'm sure you did. But if the
line was long for Street Fighter two, you always have
to put a quarter up. Yeah, of course next to
you one of the order the players, either the first

(01:34:09):
or second player. Um, that was one for sure for me,
I'm thinking sports though, you know, is that like fighting?
Are we saying that that's in the case. If that's
the case, I mean, how do you have this conversation
without already mentioning Tyson's punch out? Yeah? Um? The other
one for me, I don't know if you guys use

(01:34:30):
Philly or Hawaii, but it was always bas is loaded. Um,
so if you use Philly and used Oco. Uh. The
dude had forty home runs batting five and then the
picture car like an E R A. That was like
sub to Dave. I will say this. I hate to
cut you off, but I remember clear as day when
my mom came home from mark in her like nine

(01:34:52):
eighties something business outfit shoulder on her way to jack
La Lane. On her way to jack La Lane, she
put on her you know, let's get physical John Olivia Newton,
John Alpheid and she she bought me bass Is Loaded
from the local computer store for seventy five dollars backing.

(01:35:17):
You know why though, because I was the greatest kid ever.
But but it was seventy because the graphics in that
game were next level and the perspective was from the
pitchers perspective. It was different for the time. However, I
didn't think it was that fun of a game. You
could fight in that game. I thought that was kind
of cool, like if you hit the batter, if you
have bean balled them, there was a little brawl on

(01:35:37):
the mount. I like that game. It's definitely like worthy
of bringing up, but I don't even think it's the
best baseball Do you guys at least remember the names
of the umpires in that game? No bass is loaded? Yea, yeah,
it's yuck dumb boom bum that's so funny. Do you guys,
Do you guys have a friend? What was the what

(01:36:00):
was the video game console that had Baseball Stars where
you made your own team's turbo graphics? Is that Turbo
Graphics six Team? It might be, Well, there was another
one like that for the NES that was Baseball Simulator
one thousand. That was one of my favorites. Um again,
we're going over your your favorite sports games, you know,
and tribute to John Madden, who celebrated tomorrow. Uh. I
was saying, what was your favorite growing up? Well, I

(01:36:22):
had a PlayStation one. I had NFL Blitz. Okay, yeah
so but and then my buddies and I a non
sports game. Would play this game on Sega Genesis called
Streets of Rage. That's a good one. That was fun
because you you know, you had this the left or
right panning. You had just bosses all over the place.
You could you know, smash the table and someone then
it would disappear. You know, the henchman would get beat up,

(01:36:45):
then they just disappeared. Class. Do you have an embarrassing
game you remember loving? Because maybe it was one of
your siblings. Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. Dave showed me that. I
never didn't know it exists. A great game though, Yeah,
there was. There was a game Danny g would go
from Double Dribble, did Michael jack since Moonlaw? No, No,
that's g I would. We would go from Double Jibble.
We'd go home and play Zelda for hours. My cousin

(01:37:07):
Chris and San Jose, California, he spent hours locked upstairs
in his room playing Zelda, and my aunt would always
scream at him you're gonna grow up to be a loser.
And he's a wealthy computer programmer these days, of course
he is. Would you guys consider rad Racer a sports
game that was a great game? Man? Yeah? Why not? Right?

(01:37:28):
We're being the rules a little bit. Um fighters a
fighting game, positions more of an arcade game. Yes, it
was stand up arcade game. It was a great one.
But yeah, dude, rad Racer, that was a good one.
Oh you know what I was thinking of? Two A
rad Racer was cool because you could change the music.
But r C Prohm was was another one. So I'm

(01:37:49):
gonna get my final answer here, guys, because all of
you guys have great honorable mention. Hold on now because
we're getting some feedback, so save your answer. I want
to hear the big reveal Cavino's greatest sports game of
all time in honor of the Big Madden documentary tomorrow
on Fox and your feedback at eight, seven, seven, nine
nine on Fox. We got more Cavino on Rich and
Forgot Leave next on Fox Sports Radio. No Happy Birthday, Hey,

(01:38:18):
Merry Christmas Eve, Fox Sports Radio Cavino and Rich and
for Doug Gottlieb. The numbers eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox at Steve Cavino at Rich Davis at Covino
and Rich, we'd love to hear from you guys again.
At eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Who sings
this version of Frosty the Ronettes? Is it from Goodfellas?

(01:38:42):
Or yeah? You know it's uh. I was gonna saying,
I like this version a lot, but I will always
love the What is the burl ives like Frosty the Snowman?
That the like the cartoon with the Magician? Isn't that
Jimmy Durranty? Isn't it? Is it Jimmy Tranty? I mean
it sounds like am I always pictured jam don't have
to do the Michael Parsons thing? And when I get

(01:39:02):
something wrong, dude, temp push ups. Hope, I hope not
And there you're right. I don't. Let's start with Anthony
in New York Coveno and rich In Forgottley, We're talking
about some of your favorite old school video games. He
better not give my answer, because I got the best answer.
John Madden's being celebrated tomorrow a documentary on his life
and career Tomorrow, Christmas Day. On Fox. We were saying

(01:39:24):
how most kids don't even know he was a coach
or a broadcaster, maybe even a Hall of Famer because
he stopped coaching in the late seventies. They just know
the video game and that brings us to the greatest
sports games of all time. Well, think about it. Cano Madden,
known for being quite a character, right, also never flew
with drive everywhere, bus and trains and all that. He

(01:39:46):
would make more money a lot of times with the
video game than all the other amazing accolades he had
in his life. Right, great coach, great broadcaster, What does
real claim to fame is attaching his name to possibly
the most popular sports video game of all time. Give
me yours, so I don't want Anthony or Austin or
Manuel or Jacob or anyone on the line to steal

(01:40:07):
It's exactly. Keep your chiny's on, guys, or take them off.
We're having fun today Christmas Eve ninety nine, Fox, I
gotta say everyone gave some great shout outs. You know,
bass is loaded, dumble dribble, all your favorites. Rich What
was yours? Was that Nintendo hockey weight you could pick up?
Your guy was fat, skinny or medium? Hey, that's good
and then you could skate fast if you guy. But

(01:40:29):
you say blades was better. If you're a hockey fan,
you probably blades to steal my number one answer on
the board survey says rb I baseball speedy categories with me.
I'm looking at the feedback on our Twitter. They said,
y'all haven't mentioned the goat sports game RBI Baseball. Yeah,

(01:40:51):
because I hadn't said it yet. I gotta say it
was close, because Mike Tyson's punch out changed my life.
I still remember the code to Tyson's punch out doubles
seven three, seven three five nine six three. I beat Tyson,
But the game I spent the most time playing, and
it holds the test of time this day. Deante Wilder style.
To this day, RBI Baseball is the best game ever.

(01:41:14):
You're trying to tell me you got lost going from
Woodland Hills to Sherman Oaks. But you know that Mike
Tyson punchot cud frothing. That was impressive. I knew three
or seven three. It was a tanging, a neys classic,
and it came in two versions. It was like the
standard gray cartridge, and then there was like a fancy

(01:41:35):
how do you do it was a black cartridge. But dude,
RBI Baseball. It was something so simple, yes, so fun
about it. I made it made the game play so
so competitive, you know what it's uh. I did love
how you got a glimpse of the stats of the
real players that you rooted for at the time. But
I feel like if you hit a groundball in the
infield in that game, you would leg it out for

(01:41:56):
an infield And I didn't know how to play because
you could throw fast and that the game stunk. Honests
to go. All right, let's go to you. Let's go
to your feedback. And by the way, I'm convinced, I'm
convinced that your brain is wasting too much storage on
stuff like this. Can I ask you, as a quick question,
how is that game better than bases loaded to You

(01:42:17):
can like jump up and like rob a home run,
you can die for a groundball because it was simple
enough to you know, play and have a good And
by the way, I never lost courtesy of my big toe,
because my big toe would always hit the reset button.
If you're about I was about to lose a game,
it's a good, good move. Al Right, Well, let's go
to Anthony in New York and what's up Man coven

(01:42:39):
On rich Emon, Gentlemen, if you're going to talk about
baseball games, don't forget about Super BASEBA. That was a
fun baseball game, at least myself personally. Then I also
played bad news Baseball Baseball Stars too is actually a
good one as well. Baseball Stars. I just, I just
I always love the idea of being able to make

(01:42:59):
the years like you pick the names like that was
so revolutionary at the time, because you know, when you
were able to be like, I'm gonna name the guys
on this team after my little league team. That was
so fun at yourself. Third, that is that that was fun.
Like I like all of these games, and and there's
really no wrong answers unless it's not RBI baseball. You remember,

(01:43:23):
you know everyone's waiting to you know, the way Madden
is now, it's like your parents generation. Is that a
video game or TV? It's so good now, But you
remember the original Madden's like they were good. But how
far gaming has come in our lifetime from the eighties, nineties,
two thousand to twenties now, Like gaming has come so
far where it went from You ever seen that meme

(01:43:43):
where it's Tom Brady. This is how long com Brady
has played and it's like the like the crappiest video
game version of him on on at Michigan and then
over the pixelated looks like a Roadblocks character, looks like
a Minecraft Tom Brady. Jacob and Nevada. What's up, Jacob?
What's up? Hey? My favorite pobably as a sex tricky
man on the game Cube. And then madd and Twelves.

(01:44:08):
Madden Twelves Raiders were over hyped. You could run all
day with them. You boys have a good day. Yeah,
the the one that everyone talks about. There's a hockey
game that makes every list. You know what I'm talking about,
Danny g What what hockey game makes every list? I'll
look it up if you don't know. But like every
time people like Gritzky nine four, NHL seven, there's some
there's some game that every hockey fan always brings up.

(01:44:30):
And I'm I'm amazed that the first person didn't even
bring it up when you tell me, is that what
it is? Where there was blood? Yeah? But Gascon wasn't there?
One also in the two thousands that a lot of
people played similar to Madden twelve I'll have to ask
my cousin because he was playing a hockey game like

(01:44:51):
crazy in the two thousands. Mean all the NHL and
FIFA games like similar to Madden Now, FIFA is a
big one. I have a friend right now whose wife
almost divorced him because he pays more attention to his
FIFA game than her. Yeah, that's a little lame, that's um,
but you know what you know, speaking of the hockey games,
we we did mention blades of steel. To my knowledge,

(01:45:13):
that was one of the first that you had the
fighting and you were able to throw down in the game.
Let's go do it? Does it does? Change it? So
that's a good one. Austin in Indiana, what's up, Austin? Hey, Austin, Hey,
happy holidays. How are you good? We're good man, Merry Christmas,
Happy Holidays. I got three of them real quick. Uh.
Triple play. There was a home run derby where you

(01:45:33):
could go in the living room of a house and
that was pretty cool. I remember that. Yeah, NASCAR, you
could shoot paintballs out of your car. That's kind of
not sports related. But jet motto is the last one
I mentioned the game. Thanks for the call, Austin I
mentioned the game to you guys that no one remembered
what I was talking about. Can you know, do you
remember some type of lame not Olympics game, But it

(01:45:55):
was a like California games where it's like surfing skateboarding.
It was like all these like it was like the
track and field for like surfer dudes. Yeah, and that
was the latest game ever. Uh Manuel in Gardenia. What's up? Manuel?
Was first off, every Mary Christmas. You guys are doing
yeoman's work today bringing back the greatest era of all

(01:46:19):
the arcade slash Day. Well, I'm I'm convinced, Manuel, I
really am. I'm not. I feel like I'm not even
just saying because we're all if we're at that age,
I'm convinced that if you grew up in the eighties
and nineties, there was something magical about it that I
feel like, earlier than that there was not that magic,
and after that there was not that magic. That there

(01:46:42):
was a balance though, there was a balance because with
our generation, and you know, being classically trained on the
nes that Manuel's is so fond of, we still lived
the same sort of childhood as our parents generation, meaning
we went out, we we played hide and Seek. We
played whiffleball. We were outside riding our bikes. The opportunity

(01:47:02):
to play these games. I'm convinced that I'm convinced if
you're in your probably lave, you're in your if you're
thirty five to forty five, that tenure window. I'm convinced
that balance. I'm convinced that you had the most magical
childhood because you you grew up without the distractions. But
you're you're young enough to now understand all the distractions,
not like you're some old guy that's like what's to
talk Like, you get it, you get the new you

(01:47:25):
get the new stuff, but you appreciate the old stuff.
And that's what I That's what I feel like. If
you're thirty five to forty five, you're in that window.
So where what you call wikiped Yeah yeah he ourcades
all arcades were like the best places on Earth, right,
I mean, and then somebody pulled out Baseball Stars. That

(01:47:46):
game was dude. That game was innovative. It was the
first game team from scratch. That game was awesome, obviously, Maddie,
Like I was telling Danny g once a Spice one
renowned West Coast app shampled boom, he's on his back.
It was pretty much a gun deal that that's like
the greatest game ever. But I'm gonna pull one out

(01:48:07):
of the ranks for you guys. And I'm sure like
Danny g and these guys remember because it was our case.
It was called Championship Grand Prix and you had like
four what's that like wheels in a row where like
you're basically like a NASCAR racer and you could have
four people lined up against each other. That game was badass. Hey,

(01:48:28):
so fellas love the show Man. You guys are doing
the damn thing. I'm hoping Fox brings you guys a
full time for l A because you guys are doing it. Man,
I love the subject matter and even going back to
George Foreman's grill, right, I mean, and hey, what about
Joe Montana. He is Stephen Pitt like Mervin's there was

(01:48:49):
a hit for a while, Joe Montana was the ultimate
pitch man. Hey, fellas, love you guys. God bless Mary, Christmas,
Happy New Year, all that good stuff. Yeah, hey, that
clip and send it to the boss. No on the reel.
Manuel is a legendary A M five sevent y l
a sports caller. Nice We got his endorsement. Nice man.

(01:49:11):
Merry Christmas. All right, Uh, you know what, We'll we'll
take more of your phone calls and feedback, and I
do want to talk about some of the games where
it happening this weekend. We'll dive into the NFL, but
let's do a little update. What is trending? I don't know.
I'm looking at our c pro am right now. Good
A lot of memories of that game, fella. Um. A

(01:49:32):
bunch of guys coming back from COVID nineteen. Brown's gonna
activate Baker Mayfield and Jarvis Landry. Damon Harris, who didn't
play week fifteen, is listed as questionable for this weekend's
game Patriots and Bills from Modre Stevenson is gonna be
out of the affair, David Johnson questionable for the Houston Texans.
Mike Evans is out justin fields listeness questionable. Nick Foles

(01:49:53):
will start for Chicago Colts, placed quitting Nelson in the
reserve COVID nineteen list, and Jared Goff likely to be
there as well. NBA Kevin Durant is out tomorrow for
the Brooklyn Nets. They get the Lakers because the COVID
nineteen protocols Milwaukee Bucks, Johannes and tennant Coupo. He cleared it.
He's gonna practice today. See it feels tomorrow and Darren
Collinson comes out of retirement, he's sitting signing a ten

(01:50:15):
day contract with the Lakers will send a hardship exemption,
so he's expected to play tomorrow for the men in
Purple and gold. Don't a little matter. Guys, did you
watch that game last night? It's in the Lakers and Spurs. No,
it's too busy crying about the Titans game. By the way,
you know, what's what tell me about the Lakers game.
But I gotta tell you know, it's where. There's nothing
worse than when your team loses on a Thursday night

(01:50:37):
because you have to wait a week and a half
to watch them again. That's the worst part of it.
I'm sorry what happened, especially if you're if your fantasy
team is loaded with the team that you root for. Yeah,
that's bad. It's it's annoying because now you have to
wait a whole week and a half and it's it's
it's discouraging. It's it's discouraging. I think the worst part

(01:50:59):
two if in position is because you're close to the
division leader, obviously a playoff spots in the line, and
he've been playing pretty good football. Yeah, hey, you know what,
you can bounce back. They're playing the Texans next weekend,
so you know it'll happen. The forty Niners look great
and everyone will say, oh, they're back, Jimmy g just
a bad game, and then hey, we'll see week eighteen
against the Rams, which I don't know if that game

(01:51:20):
will mean anything by that. Who knows playoff teams that
are playing this weekend. Let's go over some of those,
and thanks for the update. You know what I was
thinking too, He's like, did you watch the game last night?
I was doing like the family thing, which real quick,
and I had your game on too, because I was like,
I was rooting for you. I was, and it was
a good game, and I turned it on it just

(01:51:40):
the right time, like what is this close? But I
was getting presents from my girlfriend's dad, like you know,
her family, and I was like, oh, I got got again.
I'm gonna make this. By the way, before you before
you tell the story, we I just have to tell everyone.
Comino and I have decided. We decided this on our
art podcast during the week the over the overly done

(01:52:04):
go to gift in one the last year or so,
maybe getting someone a YETI, a YETI tumbler, Like a
YETI tumbler, like there's there's not a household in America
that that didn't someone didn't get a YETI tumbler, Like,
oh and it's in great. I don't know what to
get that person. Let me get him a nice twenty
five dollar keep your coffee warm tumbler with your name

(01:52:27):
on it, like that's the solid But a few of them,
that's the thing. It's like, it's it's the overdone gift.
But the other reminder is always keep a bottle of
wine in your trunk and a twenty dollar Starbucks gift
card like in your glove box because if you ever
bump it too someone and they're like, hey, Merry Christmas,
I got you something, you can be like, what's funny

(01:52:49):
because I got you something too, Always keep it on hand. Yeah,
Merry Christmas Eve, guys, and you know, we hope you
haven't Merry Christmas. Tomorrow. We'll be back on Sunday for
Fox Football Sunday Cavino and Rich like we normally do.
But if people don't know, I'm not good at being
the butt of the joke. I'm just not. I can
sort of get mad and like it's a weird feeling.

(01:53:10):
If you know Rich, that's our show. If you know
us Rich, that's me. I'm always a butt of the joke,
and I take it with fun. I laugh at myself.
Comino is the type of guy that is very bad
at taking a joke. It's it's I don't know what
it is. I don't know when you're like Comino does
not like when you bust his chops. Just doesn't good
at it. I'm just not good at it. Right, So
I'm looking around everyone's opening their presence. There's a lot

(01:53:32):
of Yettis. There was a lot of Yetti's there for sure.
I'm not even kidding you, sort of, God guaranteed is
the gift that keeps on giving? Is the YETI rage
of And then like I'm there with my box and
my box is really heavy, and my girlfriend's dad busts
out his camera and he starts filming me. So like
immediately like my radar is going off. I'm like, what's
going on here? I'm like, am I getting set up

(01:53:53):
for something? And it's like the weakest feeling because like
everyone's sort of looking at me. And I opened it up,
and apparently in her and her family, this is like
ongoing joke and it's kind of an honor. It is,
it's an honor, but I was the recipient of the joke.
And I opened it up and it's a giant crocodile head.
It's like, yes, I swear to God, you gotta see

(01:54:14):
this thing. It's a real, like a real, you know,
a real And I'm like hey, I'm like, ah, he's
got the crocodile head. And everyone's laughing and pointing at me,
and I'm just I'm sitting there like yeah, but so yeah,
and you're trying to figure out how to react because
you're like how to react? And it was like the
most embarrassing sort of scenario ever. So now I got

(01:54:35):
this thing, and I guess, I don't know, you have
to play, you have to get to present it at
your house, put it up to bring it back to
the studio or something. I don't know, But in this case,
I would have preferred the an extra YETI and it
would have been my eighteenth Yetti Tumbler, I think perfect.
You know what, We're gonna come back with the final
calls of the day, and you know what, ye a

(01:54:57):
little preview of Saturday's game. More Rich next and forgot leave? Yeah,
Camino and Rich uh and forgot leave on Fox Sports Radio.
By the way, who is this is this? Uh So?
This is the from the Nutcracker, the Dance of the
sugar Plum Ferry. But it's a trap remix. I saw

(01:55:22):
it just made me think a couple of years ago.
I saw Trans Siberian Orchestra. Yeah, I've been playing them
all season. They have they play a couple of their
Christmas songs. Then it's like a pyrotechnic, crazy, bizarre thing.
You look around, like, what is this. They incorporate a
lot of stuff, wires and wild that was lost rock

(01:55:43):
and show Rich has ever seen till this day. Pop Davis, bubblegum,
Rich Davis, I'm Cavino. That's Rich as Fox Sports Radio.
The whole cruise here Mary, Christmas Eve eight, seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. We've had a fun time today.
If you missed any of it, again Fox Sports Radio
dot Com, we appreciate you, guys. Listening on the I
Heart Radio app, and of course are stomping grounds s

(01:56:04):
x M eighty three. Perhaps you know us from our
many years on s x M. We still do the
music stuff on sx M, but happy to be here
on Fox Sports Radio, usually on Sunday nights. So thanks
again it Doug Gottlieb and everybody hanging out with us today.
Now I want to go to all the phone calls.
People could be calling about everything from Madden tomorrow the
big documentary on Fox. We'll talk about how you bro

(01:56:27):
How do you really know John Madden? If you're for
the younger generation, do they even know the football coach?
The announcer? No, The answer is no, And again I
don't blame them not to keep repeating ourselves. But you
know my my girlfriends a little younger than me, right
and creep no creep oh no creepy nothing, creepy no
creep Oh she does she passed the half year age

(01:56:49):
plus seven, Yes she does. Right, So hey, look, I'm
I'm a grown man. Boy. I look very young. She's
a little younger. She's like, did you know Tim Allen
was the comedian? Because he's doing comedy again. He's back
on the comedy circuit. She think he did well. She
only knows Santa Claus. No, not even then, And I'm like,

(01:57:10):
stand up was legendary back then. Yeah, I was like,
of course, I know he's a comedian. I used to
love watching all you know, stupid jokes. Did he know
how he Mandela was a comedian too? Exactly right. So
a lot of young people don't know John Madden resume.
They just know the video game, video game, So well,
that'll that'll be fun tomorrow. We're also talking about old

(01:57:32):
school video games because of Madden. But I want to
go to Kevin in Vegas first because he's gonna get
me back on this Jimmy G tip, isn't he Kevin?
You're on with com Rich, Fox Sports Christmas, Happy Holiday's
great to you. Back at your man, back at you?
What's up, Kevin? Thanks? Great Christmas movie to Gritch um
in the Santa Claus and Bad Santa. But getting back

(01:57:54):
to this Jimmy G thing. This is why the forty
nine is wrapped. The Trey lance a draft with Mika Parsons.
It would have been great to have a player like
Niko Parsons next to Nick Vosa, but they have to
get a quarterback who can make those winning throws. We
saw what trade, We saw what Garoppolo did last night.
You fetch his wide open, he's walking into a touchdown,
he overthrows, and he did the same thing to Manuel

(01:58:16):
Sanders in the Super Bowl Winner. The forty Niners gonna
realize that Jimmy G can't make the winning place to
win a game. Look at all the playmates that we have, kiddos,
are you Devo, Sam Football, j Kevin Mitchell, Kevin, we
need a quarterback who could make those strolls so we
can win a Super Bowl. That's why John Lynch to

(01:58:37):
draft the Tray Lance because this guy can make those
strolls to win place for us. Jimmy G. Great guy,
he's gonna be great at Fox Sports Radio, great backup,
but he is not a starter for the forty Niners.
This is why Trey Lance was drafted because we need
to make those winning throws. Yeah, it's not a matter
of being good at making the playoffs a tenant seven
or nine and eight. It's a matter of winning the
big game. And Kevin, I'm telling you right now, go

(01:59:00):
to my Instagram at rich Davis because I want you
to see my reaction last night to when Jimmy j
is overthrowing people, or when the Tennessee Titans are moving
the ball. My wife is recording me, and that might
have been on the third and something. On the third
and twenty something, when uh, they convert Julio Jones, not

(01:59:21):
Julio Jones, a J. Brown pulling the ball out of
the sky. It's like an angry ballet. Yeah. Rich is
kicking his feet like a little cry baby, like a
little baby boy. My daughter and my dog looking at
me like what is he doing at Rich Davis and Rich.
It's it's easy to fall into this sort of dialogue, especially,
you know, being a die hard fan. Diehard a Christmas

(01:59:42):
movie by the way, I hope you know that, being
a die hard fan of the forty Niners. You and Kevin,
but you sound like fickle, fleeting sports fans where a
week to week you're you go with the window. Two
weeks ago you were saying, hey man, Jimmy g really
shut everybody up. We haven't heard anything about Trey Lance.
And you know, since the beginning of the season he
has a bad game, and I know expectations are high,

(02:00:02):
but all of a sudden Trey Lance is the answer.
He's gonna win the game. I know I am to
be those sports guys that that that are that are
back and forth all the time. I try not to
be flippy flap. I even texted even texted Cower the
other day after I heard him do the whole Jimmy
G quarterback face thing, because I thought it was a

(02:00:23):
great point. He's got confidence, he's sort of the man,
but he's not. I'm telling you he just I said
it in the beginning of the show and I'll say
it one more time for the people that I don't
expect people to listen to all four hours of US.
I made the point that Jimmy G is the type
of guy that he's gonna bring you to the playoffs.
He's gonna win, He's gonna be solid, but he's gonna

(02:00:44):
miss the big pass like our buddy and Vegas said.
He missed Emmanuel Sanders in the Super Bowl. He missed
us check last night. He doesn't get rid of the
ball when the press, when the pressure is on, he
doesn't throw the ball away. He'll force a pass or
take the sack. He's good, But to win a Super
Bowl and you don't want to waste the talent window

(02:01:05):
of Deebo, Samuel Brandon, Aiyuk, George Kittle, trust me, other
than maybe the Cowboys, who you could say, Ceedee Lamb Cooper,
Zeke Pollard, like they got some The Cowboys got some weapons, right,
but at the forty Niners had a quarterback that could
like use those weapons to the next level. Mhmm. You

(02:01:27):
don't think they're they're like a Super Bowl favorite type
of team. That he was right, And I'm not manage
Jimmy G. I'm sure he's a great guy, but he
was right. But he was he was doing just fine
up until this week. No one mentioned trade. You know,
I can say they went five and one and left
six and you're like, oh right, maybe they got it going,
and you're like, you forgot that. That's right in a
key situation, Jimmy G didn't come up. Brian in Ohio,

(02:01:50):
what's up? Brian? I uh was one of the first
callers to your Sunday night program and really enjoy the
development you guys have shown over the past several months,
so thank you. I try to add on to the
video game conversation though and highlight one that I think
the NFL and the NHL. Still you got, you got,

(02:02:13):
you got ten seconds, so make it snappy because we
gotta break the mutant league games. So that turned a
whole generation of players on who couldn't understand sports but
could understand if I throw a stick a dynamite at
somebody perfect a thank you buddy. Hey, listen, we got
one more hour fun more coveno rich and forgot leave
next right here. Fox Sports Radio, Hey, Merry Christmas Eve,

(02:02:38):
an extra sip of this this Dutch Brothers coffee to
not let down the Gottlieb fans. What are you get
the radio? Yo, It's it's a big scene out here
in Idaho. I know it's a chain in other places
as well, but I'm in Idaho for the holidays, and
Dutch Brothers Coffee is where it's at right now. So
come on, make this next. Let's go make that down.

(02:03:01):
Bring Let me tell you we had a little holiday
party at the house the other day and we bought
a huge thing of Bailey's and no one even dipped
into because we never had coffee at the end of
the night. So when I go home after this, I'm
pouring myself a huge ask cup of coffee with a
little glove of Baillies, a little little whip cream on top. George, George,

(02:03:26):
you mean the what does he the have the luckiest man,
richest man in town, richest man in town. Something. Alright,
Let's let's take your phone calls, your feedback, and old
dive into some of the things to look out for
this week in the NFL um and an observation I
had last night watching the game. It was one of
those times where because it's the holidays and you know,

(02:03:47):
when your team plays on Thursday night, you know, my
kids were playing with some toys in the living room
and my wife and I are sitting there. We're just
all hanging watching the game together. A rarity because Thursday night,
if it's not if it's not my team, I'm like
casually watching on like my iPad or something. I'll be honest,
I'm the dad that loses the TV to like Coco Melon,
got little kids, people understand. But last night all about

(02:04:10):
the Niners Titans and an observation I want to make.
But let's take Drew's phone call in Tucsa. What's up, Drew?
So us how you doing? Man? I love the show?
He appreciate that Merry Christmas. What's up? Real quick? I
heard them last while I was on hold. I heard
that last caller or one of the last callers, talking
about Jimmy G and speaking old school. I've got some

(02:04:31):
old school driving games I want to tell you about,
but real quick, Jimmy reminds me of this old backup
the Raiders used to have named Mark Wilson, Number six,
used to fill in for punk It if Plunky got hurt,
and he would always be throwing interceptions. And uh, I
don't know if you remember that old school backup, but
the Raider had to do. Mark Wilson man reminded me

(02:04:53):
of Jimmy G. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna look
him up right now. I doubt he is as handsome
as Jimmy G, which is what Jimmy G gets by
on his dad Will books exactly. But the Wilson went
to b y U after McMahon and everything, so I
think he was under some old school hype. But anyway,
old school games, how about super Sprint, Spy Hunter, Excite Bike,

(02:05:14):
and out run when you're driving the convertible through like
Miami or whatever. So I mean they have nothing to
do with sports Spy Hunter, but I did love the
smoke screen and the oil slick options. It's a good one.
It's a good one that was in our grade game
first too. But hey, Drew really appreciate it. Man. If
you missed our conversation about Madden and the documentary tomorrow

(02:05:36):
and old school games, definitely check it out later on
Fox Sports Radio dot com and really quick. By the way,
Mark Wilson number six, definitely, all Raider fans remember him
throwing picks, curling up and falling on the field anytime
a defender got near him. It was it was a
hard It was a hard watch when he was at QB.
Mark Wilson, Mark with a C. Good memories for you,

(02:05:57):
huh um. Before we get into some matchups for this
week in the NFL Week sixteen, I want to bring
up something my wife pointed out. Can you know you
say your your girlfriend Jordan's who passes the half your
age plus seven test? Yes, stop making it a thing. Um,

(02:06:18):
But she didn't know Tim Allowe and that Tim Allen
was a comedian. Come on, um, she didn't know his
stand up. So she will always ask you questions when
you guys are watching sports. Because she's not a sports mean,
she'd be like, why did they do this? And you
will say that she asked great questions because there are
things that why don't they run? Like why don't they
run towards third based? You know, why did they choose

(02:06:39):
towards first based? Like questions I don't know the answers
to yeah, And you're like, you know, I never thought
about that. Yeah, Like you like, where where did they
how did they measure the three point one? And you're like,
do you know what, I don't know, I'll do one.
I don't know. But she always asked like those type
of questions. My wife who grew up with you know,
your mom and dad, who watched a lot of football,
So my wife is well versed watching NFL football with me.

(02:07:02):
But she's like, is it me? Or when when we
were kids the teams never go for it on fourth down?
And I said to myself, no, baby, you're right. I'm
sure Dan Patrick or Cowherder got leib. But I'm sure
over the years some people have gone off on this,
but it's all analytics. When we were kids, kicking her stick,
you know, and if you played in the playground you

(02:07:22):
never kicked. Who kicked you stuck kicking her stick and
kicking her stick and was freaking kicking. I know what
he's doing. You're not kicking out of here. I'm not kicking.
But when you watched NFL football, no one, it could
be fourth and inches at midfield and you know, I
would say nine nine percent of time they punted in

(02:07:43):
our lifetime, much like how in baseball pitch counts and
middle relief and analytics changed the game. It's amazing how
if you're close to midfield you could even be on
your side. You could be on like the forty six
if it's four than two. When we were kids, If

(02:08:03):
you were a kid in the seventies, eighties, and nineties,
no way on earth did your team go for it
on fourth and two. Now it's like if they don't
like analytics and ever changing game, um mobile quarterbacks. You know,
things like that have changed how we we we how
what we expect hitting home. You could play in baseball

(02:08:23):
batting on the interstate and still have a job. Look
at basketball at three points, this is just another example
of that. Yeah, Steph Curry changed the way kids play
basketball in the playground. That's a good observation. You we
talked about one of your Yankees this year. Gallow hit
under two hundred, but according to analytics, he had a
good season. I don't know how that's possible, but things

(02:08:47):
are judged a different way now. Basically, guys that hit
for average with no power are not valued. You rather
have a two hitter with the hits, doubles and home
runs then a guy that bats over three hundred with
single single, single, single, Because when you do the math
the analytics, it's a changing game. So again, as you
would say, Comino, and I'll be an obvious servation and

(02:09:08):
obvious observation, but yeah, my wife pointed that out, and
I'm like, you know what, I guess you're right. When
we were kids and you're probably watching football with your dad,
fourth down meant you punted. Now, I love the aggressive games.
Do you used to be like one coach in the
game that would be sticking nowadays? There? Yeah, you know what,
how trends come back in style. You see kids today,
they're rocking like Jinko jeans, they're dressing like we dressed

(02:09:30):
in the nineties two thousand's. You know, I went to
the mall Comino come back and they're sticking again. I
went to the mall in Woodland Hills and call me
crazy because I can't even believe the store was still open.
There was a line, you know, because of COVID only
so many people could be in the store. I guess
at the same time, there was a line at the
Doc Martin store. And I'm like, is this six back?

(02:09:51):
You know, I know it's back. You have a twelve
year old daughter who's wayh into that style now. But
in my mind, what did they do for twenty years
in between? Was that start? Was there? Didn't reopen? Like
Doc Martin's survived for two decades? Yeah, I was Sam,
you were you were too young, but that was the deal.
Like did anyone wear Doc Martin's, Well, I'm thirty five, ye,

(02:10:11):
I mean, were those like the leather sandals? The Doc
Martins were, like, that's what Rich wears when he's feeling
when he's feeling dangerous. Doc Martins are the big like
the big boots with the thick like rubber. He'll like
almost like the Nirvana Pearl Jam nineties rock like like
the boots. Yeah like part Now Martins were the rage

(02:10:34):
in the nineties, and I do yeah, I do remember
now the line is out the door because kids are
rocking that Billie Eilish, you know the type of look
now you need Jinko jeans too, right, yeah, for twenty years,
so I wonder what happened, But you're right, trends coming
going sports in style in life, and just the dumb
obvious servation. But I was thinking of Birkenstocks. Those were

(02:10:55):
like the les and remember like the Jellies which the
big Lebosca war, Dave Matthews concert says Enrich and now
the little and saw marching between. So just an observation.
We can move on to some football now. But my
wife didn't make that point. I was like, you know what, honey,

(02:11:17):
that's I mean, yeah, we all think about it, but
you're right. When we were kids, fourth down punt every time.
That's the one thing you may hate that they take
your picture out after ninety pitches now, but what I
do love is fourth and two from the forty something.
You go for it, man, I used to hate that
as a kid. Fourth and one punked. Oh we're playing
at least more playground rules now, all right, now tomorrow

(02:11:38):
two games Browns at Packers. Packer is one of the
only undefeated teams at home, So you would argue, yeah,
Green Bay seals the deal. They might not cover the
seven and a half and half a point hook, which
would scare me as a gambler. But Cleveland, if they
want to even have a chance at this playoff race,

(02:11:59):
if you know they got a in tomorrow and remember
a bunch of players still recovering from the VID nineteen.
I know that you're saying that's a non factor because
the main storyline is it doesn't affect people the way
it did, especially vaccinated and especially if they're reinstated. But
I know from personal experience, man, just even with family members. Now,

(02:12:19):
yeah they're good, but they're not good. Their energy levels
are not there. So you're also you gotta factor that in,
even though people say it's not a not a thing.
So I'm torn if I should take the Browns plus
thirteen and a half and a teaser of sorts. But
I don't know. Maybe you don't touch it and you
just watch it on Christmas Day with I think honestly, again,
I'm not one to make predictions. I think Packers are

(02:12:40):
are going to dominate this game. Yeah, I mean maybe
the what would you say I was saying, maybe the
the guy that wants to see the good game in
me is like, oh, maybe they'll compete, but maybe the
Packers whoop them. I think they're gonna Plus, Rogers is
on the brink of setting that record, surpassing Bread far
if he's an item, and then you know he's gonna
bomb for like four touchdowns. Hey, Mary, it's Brett worst

(02:13:01):
actor in a movie ever, Brett Farve something about Mary,
and and let's give credit where it's too even Brett
Farve said, I believe this week that Aaron Rodgers is
probably the best playmaker we've ever seen in the NFL.
So you know that that. You gotta got a tip
year old Brett Farve sweaty hat to that, like at
least he acknowledges the greatness. Yeah. Well, so we could

(02:13:24):
argue Browns will try to keep it close because they
they have to if they want to even have a
chance in the playoffs. But you're right, the Packers probably
when and the Browns fault to seven and eight and
they're out of it. And Baker Mayfield, who went into
the season everyone thinking the Browns were a real contender,
are gonna fight to finish the season over five hundred,
the late game Cults at Cardinals. Um, I like money

(02:13:47):
line on the Cults. Just for the record, Camino, I
think I think the Cardinals are the most overrated team
this year. They're not the not the Steelers of last
year that started hot and then totally failed. But I
think the Cardinals are being exposed as a good team.
They're a great team, They're playoff team. They're gonna be
in it. But I don't think I think the Cardinals
don't win this game. Colts on the road win. What's

(02:14:11):
your teaser bet? You got honest? I was thinking about
doing Brown's plus thirteen and a half Cults plus eight,
but I may just do Cults money line. But more importantly,
can I ask you another question that has nothing to
do with tomorrow sports. I was just scrolling through the
stories that I'm looking at on the computer. Here there's
a model, Sorry, this is out a left field. This

(02:14:33):
just popped up. There's a model who says she was
uninvited from her friend's wedding because she looked too good
in her bridesmaid stress. Is that a left field? Who
was there? Benny Agbayani or no? Out a left field? Yeah? Yeah,
out of left field. A model said she was removed
from her friend's wedding party because she looked too good.

(02:14:57):
I believe it can't outshine the bride. Another woman's beauty
should shouldn't make your beauty fade. Yeah. Do you want
Jimmy Garoppolo to be one of your groomsmen? Yeah, that's exactly.
I don't even want to hang out with anyone that
looks remotely like Jimmy Garoppolo, even though some people say
you do. Rich So I ask you this, is that

(02:15:19):
the most Do you think women choose their bridesmaid sometimes?
I'm like, yo, I don't want to. Do you think
they don't want to make sure they want to make
sure their hottest friend might not be next to them
on their wedding day? Is that a consideration for women
to A thousand percent? A thousand percent? Yes. I just
saw the story pop up and I was like, you know,
I could take a break from the NFL. I just

(02:15:40):
I've been sleeping and breathing the NFL for the last
twenty four hours. But the idea, by the way, there's
nothing more arrogant though, than this woman saying I was
too hot for the wedding party. It's like if someone
man or woman, if an attractive person says they're attractive,
they become less attractive automatic. I mean, just just think
about it. I would say if there were stats for there,

(02:16:00):
there would be this would be factual. Um, if you're
five seven and out of shape, you don't want you
don't you get held against people they absolutely are man.
Think about movie roles. You could be too good looking
for a part, like yeah, we don't wanted to outshine
the star of this film. You know, like you can't
be you can't outshine the star. You're too good looking.

(02:16:22):
You know, we need someone ugly to be you know,
I'm sorry to be mean, but we need something less
attractive to be the girl's best friend in this movie.
If you are, if you're five seven and out of shape,
you know who you're. You know who your best man
in your wedding shouldn't be your six too ripped friend.
I mean, it's very superficial. It's true. It's true. To
truth hurts. I mean, it sounds terrible, but I mean

(02:16:46):
this model might be right. She shouldn't have said it.
Like I said, there's nothing worse a good looking woman
or man no one looks. No one becomes less attractive
quicker than when they say they're attractive. If some girls
like well as a hot girl, it's like, oh, you're
just not as hot now. And if a girl, if
a guy brags about how he's ripped or good looking,

(02:17:09):
up becomes most that really got away with that rich
was Muhammed Ali, I am the greatest, And I was like, yeah,
you are, man. What about when Ricky Henderson, Yeah he
got criticism. When Erson criticism Ricky loves Ricky. He was like,
I am the greatest, just so everyone knows he is.

(02:17:30):
Everybody knew and you know he wasn't Muhammed Ali even No,
he is a goat. You know he got criticism for that.
So when it leads with that, yeah they're gonna get
criticis a rule to a rule. To take away from
this applies to life sports. Everything we always say life, relationship,
sports they also of intertwined. Right, Let other people do
your bragging for you. Don't say you're the best football player.

(02:17:53):
Don't toot your own horn, even though I tend to
do that from time to time, and I'll stop, I promised,
when other people start tooting it for us. But look
at it from the perspective like imagine if if if
Tom Brady was like, yeah, I'm the greatest quarterback of
all time, you'd be like, yo, that that turns me off.
That doesn't make me feel right When a model says

(02:18:13):
I was removed from the brides from Bridesmaids party because
I'm too hot, Oh, you gotta help a lot less
hot by saying that. All right, Uh, we'll take a
look at week sixteen of the NFL. And Caveno, I
know you have a theory about Travis Kelsey that you
want to get to next. So all that and more Coveno,
Rich and forgot Leap on Fox Sports Radio. Yo, all right,

(02:18:38):
welcome back to Caveno and Rich and for Doug Gottlie
pit us up. I want to hear from you guys
at Covino and Rich at Steve Cavino at Rich Davis's
Fox Sports Radio eight seven seven nine on Fox. I'm
Steve Covino, that is Rich Davis gonna be here Sunday
night again for Fox Football Sunday. But some good games

(02:19:00):
tomorrow that we're talking about, you know what, I'll be honest,
which I wanted to think back I want to rethink
something though. All right, let's hear what are you going.
You know, we heard your take on Cleveland green Bay.
We all agree that Green Bay is gonna own them tomorrow.
We don't know that but most likely, but I will
say sort of agree on a the two games tomorrow.
We didn't give it a George Foreman Garant, No, we

(02:19:21):
did not, But I will say there could have been
a lot worse games on Christmas Day. We got two.
We got two games where when they make the schedule,
you know, you try to make the prediction and thought
that these teams will be competitive, it's a good national matchup.
These could have been stinkers. And there are four teams
that are at least fighting for the playoffs, are in

(02:19:41):
the playoff pitcher. Imagine if it was a you know,
under five teams playing on Christmas Day, why did that
have been a bummer? Yeah, yeah, four good teams. Imagine
if it was like, hey, uh, it's the Falcons Lions,
which by the way is Sunday's matchup too, stink teams.
But imagine if that was Christmas Day, you'd be like, really, okay,
Well so sort of gave the edge to Indianapolis you know,

(02:20:03):
they've been hot Indianapolis at Arizona, but Arizona's favorite. So
I like the money line on the Colts. And I
said this last Sunday, But could it be that the
Cardinals we're just slumping a little bit. I know you
downplay how good they are, and you've said it from
the start, but they lost to the Rams by a touchdown.
I mean, the Rams are good. And then he lost
to the Lions the next week. The Lions stink. To me,

(02:20:25):
that's indicative of they're just a little banged up. They're
a little out of sink and they're slumping, but they're
gonna turn it around. Don't know that they're that bad,
like they lost to the Lions bad. You don't know.
We're at the part of the season where every team
is banged up, right? Is that the story? That doesn't
Every NFL player tell you that? Not the name drop it.

(02:20:46):
Emmett Smith once told me I have I have gout.
He said that, and he was promoting some gout medicine.
But he also said I know what he said. He said, Uh,
he said, no play for Mr Gray, You're beard is weird.
He did say that he had a big advocate of
just for men, But he also said after Week one
of the NFL, there's not one team that's and we're

(02:21:08):
entering week sixteen of eighteen. So all these teams are
banged up. And so when you say, oh, you know,
Steams banged up, they'll turn it around. No, they may
be permanently banged up. We're entering the playoffs in less
than a month. They might be permanently banged up. Now,
there's a couple of games on Sunday that I just
want to throw it out there. I'm not giving you
any the sparkling hot takes, but I want to discuss

(02:21:29):
your thoughts. Danny j Perfect before you talk about Sunday,
Can I tell you something that's going on personally right now?
I sort of got the nervous farts. Rich, I gotta explain,
to have to explain that's not the personal thing. No, no, no, no,
I'll tell you why. And I want to hear about,
you know, the Sunday games, and we're gonna talk about
him Sunday night on Fox Football Sunday Kavino and Rich

(02:21:52):
behind the scenes, behind the velvet rope. You know, I'm
here in Idaho for the holidays. Rich as in l A.
I'm broadcasting on some thing called the comrax or a codec,
and it allows me to broadcast wherever I'm from. By
the way, technology in broadcasting over the last decade, you know,
I was Sam Danny j. You guys been in this
game a while. It used to require the most ridiculous

(02:22:15):
set up to do something outside of a studio. Now
it's like you could sit and anywhere that has the Internet.
You could do a national international broadcast. It's wild. Radio
stations used to have entire staffs just to do a
remote broadcast. To set it all up, oh you needed
some old stinky engineer. Yeah, you need like, you know,
giant pieces of equipment, and I like a like a

(02:22:35):
high tech, high speed I S d N Internet line.
Do you remember back in the day, if if, if
you ever saw a radio station Hot ninety seven or
Z one Kiss FM, or even a sports radio station,
if you saw them broadcasting from somewhere, they had to
go to that venue, test I S d N lines,
get stuff installed. They and they even had you had

(02:22:57):
to bring a Rocky Force robot like it was you know,
rouchy engineer would be on on site there, Yeah, yelling
at Rockies. Robot didn't make the cut and the director's now,
it's a box that these dudes carrying a little bag.
We better let Steve actually explain this before we don't
have Slicit's going on behind the velvet rope. This is shinfo.

(02:23:22):
But I'm broadcasting on this little piece of equipment. Technology amazing,
but this technology requires a power chord that let's blame
our buddy spot just because I don't want to take
the blame. Let's just say someone didn't bring the right
power chord. So I'm running on the on the charge
that it already has. So it's like my computer battery
or my phone battery is dying as we broadcast, and

(02:23:44):
I'm at fifteen percent. I got the nervous leg I
got the nervous like we got we got a half
turned out of the show, but man, and you got
thirty minutes left. Dude, you know what it's like? Yeah,
I love this song. It's like a member in Ferris
Peopler's day off when he's trying to make it home

(02:24:05):
before his parents. I'm just trying to make it home
before my parents get there. I'm just trying to finish
the show before the battery. Look now I'm at four teens. No, really,
it's so nerve racking. I mean not that rich Rich
is gonna kill it with you guys anyway, but I

(02:24:26):
just want to be there till the end. It's been
a fun show and it's and I was so mad
at myself for forgetting this wire or spot our buddy
spot for forgetting this wire to pack it up. I
was like, oh, I just hope to charge last. But
it seems like as time goes on in this final
hour of our show, the battery's dying quicker and quicker.
So that's just behind the scenes, Rich, I just wanted
to fill everybody in if I disappear. It's not that

(02:24:49):
I'm a great, you know, magician, It's yeah, there it is.
I'm just trying to beat the clock. I'm just trying
to finish the show before the mattery dies. I mean,
you way higher stakes for you doing a national international
Fox radio broadcast. But I I'm usually pretty good about

(02:25:10):
charging my phone. I was at the supermarket recently. My
wife had texted me a long ass list of crap
to get for the kids, Like, and you know, you're
you're just looking at that's my shopping list and my
phone's like four percent, three percent. I'm like, I'm like racing,
like supermarket sweep up and down the aisles, like all right, kids, cereal, alright, alright,
we need a gall on the milk. Two Like, I

(02:25:32):
know the feeling, but if you dip out, it will
be fine. Hey, dude, your Christmas list is really important,
and I hope Santa comes in everything. But this is
Fox Sports Radio National broadcast, like five radio stations all
over the country, and I'm here like, oh no, four yeah,
Doute just gonna hate me. The Scotch chapierro the boss

(02:25:53):
just text me, he said, what a hack. That's how
I feel because I didn't bring a chart for this
piece of equipment. Anyway, go ahead, I'm just giving you
the background of what I'm going through as we're doing
this show. We'll keep the nervous parts up. I'm not here,
so that's why I'm not with you. So that's fine. Um, Sunday,
can you know you're there a couple of games to

(02:26:14):
look forward to. Um, I think this is gonna be
a hell of a game. If you don't agree, tell me.
I think one of the games of the week. It
because of what's at stake, one of the most underperforming
teams in the NFL has a chance to make the playoffs.
They really do there seven and seven, and they're playing

(02:26:37):
at home. I'm talking about your Minnesota Vikings, but they're
playing the Rams. Rams at Vikings. Rams are favored by
three and a half on the road in Minnesota. If
there was ever a time for Kirk Cousins to show
up in a big spot, that would be great if

(02:27:00):
he did. The problem is, he's a great quarterback that
doesn't so what what makes you think he's gonna do
that against the Ram He's got numbers this year that
are stellar. He's a good quarterback. Right now, if you
look at the Rams schedule, they lost to the Packers.
When you look at the wait, let let's look recently. Right,

(02:27:21):
when you look at the recent schedule, the Rams lost
to the Titans, the Niners, and the Packers. And now
the Rams got hot again. Being granted, they beat the Jags,
then they beat the Cardinals and the Seahawks. So the

(02:27:42):
Rams drop three in a row. But now the Rams
won three in a row. So lost three in a row,
one three in a row. Who are the l A Rams?
They're playing in the Minnesota Vikings, who, like I said,
this game could not be more important to any team
this week because when you look at it, they play
the Packers and they play the Bears. The Minnesota Vikings

(02:28:04):
if they want to make the playoffs need to win
this game. Let's see what's trending and then we'll go
over some other matchups for Sunday. But let me ask you, yes,
what do you think Rams are Vikings? You think Minnesota
pulls one out here because it's I mean, they're a
team that's underperformed all year. Yeah, hey, me too, because
that gives the some that gives the forty nine some

(02:28:26):
breathing room in the wild card. So I want the
Rams believe it or not as well? It's it's wild.
Can you hear the audio level for Caveno right now?
As as power goes down like incredible shrinking? Man? I
gotta ask you guys, since we talked a lot of gaming, Earlirim,
you guys are familiar with the meme right with Spider

(02:28:48):
Man where he faces himself each other? How about this?
Lebron James is catching some heat right now, he posted
on his Instagram account. Three Spider Man ends all all
pointing at each other, and underneath each Spider Man there
is flu cold COVID. Oh he's getting a lot of criticism.

(02:29:13):
Yeah wow. On a side note, you know, I gotta
let this one sink in. But a side note, I'm
here nothing but great things about the new Spider Man,
are you. I haven't heard one person come back and said,
you know what, I was overrated. I'm not a big
you know, action movie I'm not a big into like
Spider Man and Superman. But I heard it as good too.
But by the way, he's gonna get it. He's gonna

(02:29:35):
get anytime someone makes some type of COVID agreed joke,
like you just got a second guess that you see.
Little nos X said, I think I have the Omaron variant. Yeah,
and people like dude don't joke about COVID, which I
get it. You know, people don't you Many of people
have lost their lives to this. So while it might
be funny to you or me, like COVID jokes, just uh,

(02:29:57):
you know, not not too soon, maybe right? I mean
that two K Marion trending for a full day gosh
ice box where this heart used to be. They're like
first he breaks up B two K and now this
gosh um speaking of that guy is the NHL has
postponed all fourteen games scheduled for Monday. They're gonna delay
the restart of the season until Tuesday at the very least.

(02:30:20):
They made an announcement today saying they'll provide additional information
as the weekend comes along. Um. In the National Football League,
a couple of guys are gonna be back for the
Cleveland Browns, Baker Mayfield, Jarvis Landry. They're fighting for their
playoff live Quittin Nelson. He's been out of the reserve
COVID list, so he's not gonna play this weekend. Also
in the NBA, Kemn Durant is out, no go against
the Lakers tomorrow. Janice is gonna work out today, he

(02:30:42):
cleared protocol. No word yet if he'll play tomorrow against
the Boston Celtics. And Darren Collinson signs a ten ten
day contract. It's due to the hardship exemption granted the
Los Angeles Lakers. He recently retired back in two thousand nineteen,
so I don't know you're getting Collins. Darren Collinson back.
And Isaiah Thomas a few days ago. Lakers like the

(02:31:02):
walking wounded right now. So anyway, still there, I'm still here.
I feel like you're Jack and Titanic. It's just that time. Anyway,
you guys have a merry Christmas and obviously a happy
New Year. If I don't see on Sunday YouTube. Man,
we all all the people here at Fox Sports Radio.

(02:31:24):
And I'm not just saying this. We worked at many companies.
I like the crew here. Man. Everyone's just good people.
Good people here at Fox Sports Radio and a fun time.
We appreciate it. Um. You know the Rams Vikings, that's
a big one. Obviously, Buffalo in New England. What's your thought,
what's your initial instinct on that? Danny g You're you're
an a f C guy, being a Raiders guy, you
you probably keep a close eye more in the a

(02:31:45):
f C than the NFC. Buffalo in New England. I mean,
the first game was played in that ridiculous windy odd
conditions where Belichick just they say, how coach Buffalogus, remember
Mac Jones through the ball three times? How do you
see that game panning out? This time it's in New
England and you know, let me look at a weather
for dude, this is gonna be good. The Bills need

(02:32:06):
this w the Patriots want to bounce back in a
major way. I'm I'm excited to see what Mac Jones
is gonna do here. Thirty five and cloudy, nothing uh
nothing crazy. So yeah, typical cold New England weather, thirty
five mix a sun clouds, so maybe you flurry on Saturday.
But yeah, so it should be more passing on this game.

(02:32:28):
We're assuming. And of course the Patriots defense somehow, they're
always good, and so to watch them go up against
Josh Allen is definitely gonna be a holiday treat. I'm
excited about that games a tight matchup. You you wouldn't
put money on that one, would you, Rich? I mean,
that's just too close to call. Well you know how
you know it's too close to call because Vegas always
seems to get these things short of right. They got
New England favored by two at home. Typically a home

(02:32:51):
team gets the three point at home favor tism So
what that means. That means Vegas is sort of saying
it's a bit of a bit of a push, but
a bit of a uh even essentially, so I think
it's anyone's game. Buffalo and the Patriots. I do think
that if you'd ask me who do I rather face
in the playoffs. If I'm a fan of a team,
I'd rather face New England, even though Belichick could outcoach anyone.

(02:33:13):
And yeah, that team shows their moments. Josh Allen at
any given I think that team could just get hot
at the right time. I really do. Allen is a
great quarterback. But I'd rather face Buffalo over New England
over well coached New England. Yeah, maybe I'll do a
parlay money line Buffalo. That's all. I'm gonna do a

(02:33:34):
Buffalo Bills Indianapolis Colts money line parlay, and I'll tell
you what, guys, we'll be talking about it, and you
can make fun of Rich if he's wrong against Sunday
Night Fox Football Sunday Funday and on Sunday night pizza
on Sunday. We have fun. Yeah, now you have a

(02:33:55):
rooting interest. If Buffalo and Indie money line parlay, if
they win, I'll bring and pizza and I'll even throwing
a garlic knots and chicken pom So there's a lot
of great matchups on Sunday. We'll be talking about it.
But rich because I'm at like it's like teetering twelve thirty.
It's actually says TV twelve percent. Now yeah, let me

(02:34:17):
please just throw this stupid theory out there. You mentioned
that we worked at many different places before we ended
up here our new home, and we're having so much
fun at Fox Sports Radio. Remember we worked at Bleacher Report.
We did for a minute. Yep, I believe it was
from them. They posted his very handsome picture of Travis Kelsey,

(02:34:41):
who's recovering from midnight. Don people forget he had a
dating show at one point. I didn't forget that. It
was like catching Travis or something like that. Do you
remember this or no? Yeah, I would say, I'm no,
I'm looking this up. There was a dating we had
him on. We had him on our talk show to
promote it. It was big for a minute, that was dating.
Oh yeah. And by the way, he I mean talk

(02:35:02):
about like a massive dude that makes you feel infer
you're the guy. The guy's a giant. So they post
his picture of Travis Kelsey and it said did the
Chiefs catch fire? When Kelsey grew his beard back? And
I know the immediate thought is he had a dumb

(02:35:23):
dumb theory, get out the way. Catching Kelsey was the
name of the show Catching Catching Kelsey That Makes Sense,
a dating show on e It premiered in October. Eligible
Women fifty eligible women. We're We're chosen from around the country. Yeah,
he stiff armed them all. I think he did. I

(02:35:43):
think I think he did that. I saw an episode
of that, and here's a shocker for you. He danced Wow,
look at that. So anyway, did the chiefs catch fire
when Kelsey grew his beard back? Like I said, I know,
that's dumb, But then you look at it and you say,
you scratch your nug You're like, well, maybe there is

(02:36:04):
something to this. Well you know what it is. It's
it's there's nothing to it. By the way, just to
give you the real answer, nothing to it at all. However, psychologically,
we're human and we think dumb thinks. I'll give you
an example. Last night, my daughter sat next to me
on the couch. The niners got two first downs in
a row, like, stay here, baby, And if you don't
think you do that, you're lying, Like if you if

(02:36:24):
you like Keith Hernandez, the Great Keith Hernandez talks about
how when the Mets made their eight six come back.
He was a cry baby. He admittedly went back to
the clubhouse. And then the Mets got a couple of
hits in a row. He's like, I'm not going back
to the dugout. You know there. They got three hits
in a row. They're about to tie this game. Oh
my god, gets my buckner. Mookie Wilson, Keith Hernandez stayed

(02:36:48):
of the clubhouse. People do this. People grow playoff beards.
If your kids sitting next to the couch and your
team's winning, you tell your kids don't move. So I
get a cavino. There's something about it, but let's let's
be honest. It's not that. But if it if it
makes a fun story. Yeah, the last time they've lost,
I mean, I gotta double check this schedule again. Um,
but was Week eight against the Bears. I have won

(02:37:11):
seven in a row since. So if you look at
when he started to grow the beard, seven in a row.
And again, not to name drop, but years ago, many
years ago, Rich, when you and I were on Maxim
Radio on s x M. We had Lenny Kravitz on
our show and he had just cut his hair, and
I remember him saying something along the lines of man.

(02:37:33):
Sometimes in life you just gotta change up your energy
and and think about yourself. When you get a fresh fade,
a type fate. Your confidence level is different when you're
not feeling when your hair is weak, when you need
a haircut, when you're not feeling fresh and clean, you
come out of that barber all of a sudden, you
got a strut about yourself. By the way, just to
play staff boy. Seven wins in a row. Their last

(02:37:55):
loss was when they only scored three against Tennessee. Remember
Tennessee one tennis he one to three, and that was
their last loss in that game was a long long
time ago. That was so yeah, it feels like a
minute ago. Listen, we're gonna wrap up Comino. Hopefully you
keep your charge. Each percent you go down, you have

(02:38:20):
to name your favorite athlete that wore that number. Timmy
Tuffle had a Toughel shuffle. Name of famous number eleven,
LaVar Arrington. There you go. I'm getting I'm too rich,
I'm nervous. I'm really nervous right now. So we'll return.

(02:38:41):
Will I be here? I don't know. It's Comino and
rich and for Doug Gottlieb on Fox Sports Radio. M hmm, yeah,
who all right, real fun time today hanging for Doug
leave Comino and Rich. He's still am but it looks

(02:39:07):
like it's about the change again. I'm running out of
battery here on my broadcasting equipment. Yeah, number let famous
number living on. Brett Gardner is the only one I
could think of. Rich. Brett Gardner one of my favorite Yankees. Wait,
isn't Carson Wentz Number eleven? Phil Simms. I was thinking
of Phil Simms. I was thinking about Drew Bledsoe before

(02:39:28):
he went down. I'm at ten percent before the end
of I'm at Phil rizutto Jimmy Hey to wrap up
our previous discussion too, I said, look, the Chiefs, there's
something to be said about Travis Kelsey grown his beard back.
They've been on fire ever since, according to Bleacher Report.
Look the team rides on this dude. You know he's

(02:39:50):
a big part just being there his presence alone, let alone.
You know, he could make something out of nothing. Dude,
Silly superstitions create camaraderie, which is why I think it's
a funny, good thing. But if you really think, Jimmy,
if you really think that Travis Kelsey's beard is responsible
for anything you've lust your mind. You're like, like like
Wade Bogs last loss was Week seven, I said, I

(02:40:14):
said Giants before because I can't read my own handwriting,
and I had a run Burgundy moment um. But yeah,
the Titans said Bears. Actually I said bears. Yeah, their
last loss was a long time ago, so it doesn't
even be a long time ago. Then. Oh, then they
beat the Giants in week eight and they haven't lost since,
So there's something be said about just changing things up,

(02:40:35):
shift in mindset. Props to them. The beard is still
it's still going strong. It hasn't gotten out of style yet.
Rich Um, something else I wanted to get out before
we wrap it up today. I was on Twitter last
night just wondering about what we were going to talk about.
Obviously we're gonna talk about the forty niners. If you
missed any of our show Fox Sports Radio dot Com,

(02:40:56):
Cavino and rich I saw that one of my heroes
was trending. Speaking of numbers, number twenty three, most people
think of Michael Jordan's I think of Donnie Baseball don
manningly and I was like, why is done Manningly trending. Unfortunately,
your first thought is like, did he die? Oh, thank god,

(02:41:17):
he's alive. Thank god. Well, you know what, if you
grew up on the East Coast. You know, we live
in we both live in Los Angeles now, but you
grew up in New Jersey. I grew up in New York.
If you grew up on the East Coast. In the
eighties and nineties, there was always the Keith Nandez or
Don Mattingly who's better? And to be honest, like, neither
one's a Hall of Famer, sadly, but you know what
they should be, man, they were both the greatest at

(02:41:38):
their position at the time. And I thought, this is
kind of interesting, just a little arn Anderson brainbuster before
we call it a day. Here. This Christmas Eve, there
was something trending. It was for your Christmas wish. If
you could get one they said MLB player, But let's
say one athlete for fun, for and rich. If you

(02:42:00):
could get one player to have stayed healthy for their
entire career, who are you picking? And the number one
answer was Don Manningley because he had back issues led
that team to the playoffs, which your guy, your guy
as a Mets fan Buck Show Walter and you know
he retired in NINETI when they won it all. I

(02:42:22):
think Buck Show Walter and Don Mattingly got a got
a raw deal because those guys, those guys put together
the dynasty that would then go on to win like
three or four out of five World Series. And the
sucking part is that Mattingly doesn't have a World Series.
So I think a lot of people think that such
a such a key part of Yankee history is like

(02:42:43):
one of the few legendary Yankees to not have a
World Series. I think my answer just because we got
a roll in a minute. I would have loved to
see what the future held for Bo Jackson had had
he not got hurt. What do you have continued baseball? Football? Both?
Like what was? But Bo Jackson already has a miraculous story.
What would it have been? I always think about, you know,

(02:43:04):
some athletes have died before their time, Like you know,
there's a lot of there's a lot of crazy stories.
But think about that. Put that in your corn copped
pipe and smoke on it. There you go, give you there.
Oh you're fading. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. We'll see
you on Sunday or weave it there to you baby,
See you in the promis Lady by guys. Bye,

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