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February 6, 2022 • 46 mins

Bernie Fratto gives you an early look at some Super Bowl gambling info, is joined by Lou Fino-Caro to talk about how to gamble, some early props, and more!

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From the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Tonight, we'll
take an early first look at the Super Bowl and
the Taylor two quarterbacks is two years ago their respective
teams want to combine total of five games and now
the Big Game. What are we a hundred and seventy

(02:56):
seventy one hours away, hundred seventy one and a half
hours away, something thing like that from the Big Game.
In about fifteen minutes, we'll be joined by NFL and
the UFC betting guru, lu Fina Carrol also known as
Gamblin Lou will get his early take on the Super Bowl,
among other things, as he is a UFC betting expert.

(03:16):
After Brian Family's update, well, I'm going to share the
backstory of the Jim Harbaugh back to Michigan Minnesota saga
and what what really happened there and how I think
folks can move on with their lives. I never once
wavered that he was going to return. And there are
it's kind of a two pronged reason, and I'll dive
into it. Of course, we wrap up the show with

(03:37):
mackin on sports, sports or entertainment, but there are more
than that. There are shared experiences such people want to
talk about them. So you've come to the right place.
We've got a lot to talk about tonight. This is
straight out of it. It's the pregame show you always wanted.
And as they say in Jim Harbaugh, Minnesota, it's gonna
be lit, all right. I know we're all waiting with

(04:00):
great anticipation for the Super Bowl UH and the countdown
is really going to start to officially begin momentarily after
the Pro Bowl starts and you get to Monday and
everybody descends on Los Angeles and radio row commences. And
I participated in one radio row that was Super Bowl
forty two thousand six in Detroit when Seattle in Pittsburgh

(04:25):
UH teed it up. It was like a home game
for the Steelers, and it was actually radio in the round,
if anybody anybody remembers, because it was done downtown at
the Renaissance Center, which is his big eighty story building
circular and rather than radio Row, we did radio in
the round. But I digress. Uh, two weeks of hype
have already sort of started, and primarily what's been the

(04:47):
focus the quarterback play. And for good reason, the Bengals
and and Joe Burrow. Uh listen, they played very well
in the playoffs, made players we needed to make them,
and Uh, truth be told, Matt Stafford, he provided exactly
what his new team was looking for in the playoffs.
But interestingly enough, I think a lot of folks believe

(05:08):
that the best player on the field will be Rams
defensive tackle Aaron Donald, who basically helped close out the
NFC Championship game, and he could be the antidote and
the kryptonite for Joe Burrow's hot play. And next week
we're gonna get heavily much more into the Super Bowl. Tonight,
we'll we'll dance around it in the periphery a little bit.

(05:29):
But interestingly enough, two years ago, as I mentioned, well,
Joe Burrow wasn't on a team. Uh. The Bengals were
one and fourteen two years ago without Joe Burrow, and
he elevated the franchise. I don't know they drafted some
players around him. That typically is what you need. You
need to have talent to win, but you'll also be
you got to be able to have the right conduit
to take advantage of that talent, and that is Joe Burrow,

(05:50):
who is a special person. Concincinnati win this game. Absolutely,
they can win this game. I'm not gonna get into
handicamming it tonight, but we will next week. But I
don't just automatically think they don't need to play this game,
and it's already a foregune conclusion. Meanwhile, the Lions two
years ago, with the venerable Matt Stafford, was three and
twelve under center, three twelve and one with Stafford to Taylor,

(06:13):
two quarterbacks who are now both in the Super Bowl,
and Matt Stafford says he gets to play in a
meaningful game. And you know what, I I congratulate Matt
Stafford on his success. He's done a good job. He's
had his moments, but that's what he does. But look,
they're in the super Bowl, end of story, and he contributed.

(06:34):
Um but I'd take great umbrage with this. I never
got to play in a meaningful game next week at
this time, I'm going to chronicle eight eight eight meaningful
games the Lions played in Stafford's career, and they were meaningful.
Three were actual playoff games. The other five had a
real playoff implications. And I'll explain why, you know what,

(06:56):
part of the reason he didn't play in more meaningful
playoff games because he didn't win the ones he played in.
And if you want to tell the story, tell the
whole story. If Matt Stafford wins the Super Bowl, read
my article. I'll be the first to congratulate them. They're there.
It can happen. A couple of interesting things, um that
you might want to find because you're gonna be inundated
with figures, factoids, and you're gonna be drowning in statistics

(07:21):
and some some of them meaningless meaningless statistics. But in
the Super Bowl, in the last fifteen Super Bowls, teams
with the lower winning percentage heading into the game eleven
and four straight up, fourteen and one against the number
in the last fifteen Super Bowls, who's the team of
the lower winning percentage? Cincinnati Bengals, again, like we talked

(07:43):
about in the wild card divisional round, picked the straight
up winner. And you cover no different in the Super Bowl,
the last fifty five Super Bowls, if you just picked
the winner, you'd be forty seven six and two against
the spread by just picking the winner. That means if
you believe the Rams will win and you lay the four,

(08:04):
history suggests they're going to cover the four, that doesn't
mean it's going to happen. Don't listen selectively, people, And
if you pick the Bengals to win out right or
the Bengals to cover, maybe they went out right. We'll see.
But that's been that, that's been the trend um. Another
another headline, as it were, or storyline heading into the game.

(08:25):
Will Joe Burrow become the only quarterback in history to
win the Heisman Trophy, win a National championship, and win
the Super Bowl? And if he did it, he would
have done it all in the span the three years.
That's just simply unreal. Alright, take a quick look at
at sort of the match up here. Why do the Rams?

(08:47):
Why does the consensus believe the Rams will win? People
feel that way? I guess you really have to give
Matn Stafford a lot of credit here too as well,
because you really can't count the Rams out in the
worth quarter if as Stafford's on his game, and based
on how close the NFL's playoff games have been over
the last two weeks, Stafford has you know, he can

(09:09):
show real resourcefulness as long as he doesn't throw an
arm punt and uh and Jakwaski tart drops it. And
again you want to tell a story, tell the whole story,
tell part of the story. But he did drop it
and and the Rams took advantage of it, went and
scored won the game. Stafford can be very resourceful, and
that could be a real advantage. Um. Stafford does have

(09:31):
a lot of fourth quarter comebacks in NFL history. I
don't like to mention it. Who were they against? Uh,
he still, you know, is like fourteen and seventy two
against teams above five hundred. But he's pulled off late
consecutive victories in the last two weeks in the playoffs
wouldn't really mattered. So again, that's part of the whole story.
Joe Burrow, meanwhile, was playing at a higher level at
the moment. But it's hard to argue. Um, you know,

(09:55):
if you just match up the two offenses, Burrow and
his offenses along with Stafford, Cooper Cup and Odell Beckham Jr.
With the game on the line, I don't know who
I I think you might give the edge to the
Rams there. Now here's a reason for concern for the Rams,
all right. I know this is gonna sound odd because
I'm a fan, but given that he's not led the

(10:16):
Rams to a you know, pair of Super Bowls. Uh,
there are folks who feel that Sean McVeigh coached in
sort of a desperate fashion last week. Um, you're never
gonna hear him seeing anything bad about Sean McVeigh. I
think he's a hell of a coach. And not only that,
I think he is is the type of guy that
players want to play hard for. I went back and

(10:39):
watched that Super Bowl and uh, when the Rams lost
thirteen three, go off through that horrible interception at the
end of the game. He came off the field and
you could hear McVeigh was miked up and he padded
golf on the back and they were about four minutes
to go in the game, and the game wasn't over,
but Brady drove him down the Patriots down. They got
a field goal. He could hear McVeigh Shane hanging there,

(11:01):
you're doing great. Uh, McVey is a type of He's
gonna be in this league a long time and this
will not be his last Super Bowl. But interestingly enough,
you might find this interesting. The average NFL coach put
forth nine challenges over the course of one season. Sean
McVeigh during the regular season only one, and it wasn't
even till Week eighteen. Yet McVeigh used to them in

(11:23):
the NFC Conference Championship game versus the forty Niners and
lost in both and lost all of his time outs
as a result with seven minutes to go in the game.
So listen. I don't know how you process that or
how you extrapolate that. The truth of the matter is,
as long as the Rams front four shows up, especially

(11:44):
Aaron Rodgers and Von Miller, Uh, this is really a
huge This is the mismatch you look for because it
is a mismatch against the Bengals offensive line. And somehow
Burrow manages to hold his own against pass rushers who
are getting home, especially in the divisional round against the Titans,
but when he was sacked nine times and they still won.
But the Rams will be the most aggressive and most

(12:05):
talented that Burrows faced. And there have been many Super
Bowls that have been won by dominant interior pass rushes
that basically take quarterbacks out of the comfort zone and
thus win the game. We'll see. It's the one matchup
you've got to be very Leriam if you're a Bengals fan.
But the Bengals, why can they win it? Well, don't
overthink it there. You know, their reward for having the

(12:27):
worst record in ten was the fact I got to
draft Joe Burrow, who was now the first number one
quarterback to get his team to the Super Bowl within
the first two seasons. And he's been holding up very
well behind the defensive line I just mentioned that doesn't
keep him clean. And you know, just last week he
completed seven and twelve and under pressure and three third
downs even though he had to use his feet to

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do him, including two third down conversions of more than
six yards. And the truth of the matter is, even
when the Chiefs found ways to cover up their top receiver,
Jamar Chase Burro, ship you know, simply shifted to t
Higgins who had six catches for a hundred and three yards.
Burrow is like a hot point guard in the n
c A tournament who can find ways to carry his

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team and make up for their deficiencies. Burrow is the
goods and I will tell you, I gotta believe the
long and short of it is that if Cincinnati wins,
it most likely will be because of Joe Burrow somehow,
some way. Reason for concerned if you're a Bengals fan.
They made a major defensive adjustment after they fell behind
the Chiefs twenty three on Sunday, most notably a taking

(13:32):
away receiver Tyreek Hale. What they did is they dropped
eight and they they forced Mahomes to get jumping in
the pocket. And you know, the Bengals have a defensive
coordinator no one has ever heard of name lou on
a Rumo. He makes adjustments and he's made adjustments and
they seem to always make them because, uh, they're very
good in the second half, there's no question. And they're

(13:55):
very good defensively, and uh, I just don't I will
say this though, if the Bengals fall behind twenty one
to three, even though the Rams, you know, the Tom
Brady came back on him and the Niners got out ahead,
and I don't think that's gonna be good. The truth
of the matter is, um, the Bengals defense is susceptible

(14:16):
the very questionable moments they were during the regular season,
and they ranked four against the posing total key QBR quarterbacks.
So Stafford could have a good day, how would the
Bengals win. They'll have to just ride that wave that
we've seen other recent Super Bowl winners find. The regular
season's best team doesn't necessarily win the Super Bowl. It's
a team that plays the best with the most confidence

(14:38):
in the postseason, and I think sometimes that gap can
be why. But every single member of the Bengals organization
believes they can win. And that's not just hyperbole. Uh,
there's something special happening there. We'll break it down much
more succinctly next week. Couple of other footnotes. Matt Stafford

(14:58):
had lost twenty straight starts, including the playoffs when trailing
by ten or more points entering the fourth quarter, including
going four this season, and the Rams under Sean McVeigh
they had been on fourteen, including the playoffs when they
trailed by ten plus points entering the fourth quarter, including
going four this season. Once again, thank you and Happy

(15:20):
Valentine's dated Jukwaski tart. You have to wonder the conversation
we'd be having if he'd caught that ball was right
in his hands. It was so so such on brand
for Matt Stafford. And I know I saw people on
Twitter were nine minutes left to go in the game,
Rams would have come back. You don't know that. You
don't know that, and I don't know that they wouldn't move.
But you tell me if you'd rather had forty Niners

(15:42):
with the ball almost near midfield with the three point lead,
or what happened when Tart dropped the ball for one
final thing by the way the Rams. Uh, look, I'll
tell you what fifts and butts were candy and nuts.
We all have a merry Christmas. So let's just give
the Rams credit. They made the plays when they needed

(16:03):
to make them at most, irrespective of mistakes. And um,
I I would say this that it was a total
team effort. Uh. One of the things I haven't even mentioned.
You have to give the Rams defensive front incredible credit.
They hold the forty niners to what fifty rushing yards?
And if you hold the Mike Shanahan offense to fifty

(16:24):
rushing yards, that's probably a recipe for success. And it
was all right, So we're what hundred and seventy one
hours and fifteen minutes away from the Super Bowl. I
can't wait. You can't wait either. Coming up lou Fen
a Carol, a gambling guru, a UFC guru. He likes
to talk about a measured approach. We'll welcome him in

(16:46):
and we'll get his early thoughts on the Super Bowl
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Life from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's
welcome and a gentleman. We had him on our show
about a year ago. Has what I would I would

(19:17):
refer to as a very refreshing approach. He caused it
to measured approach to betting. Say hello to gambling Lou
Lufen and Carol Lou. Thanks for staying up tonight, buddy, Bernie.
I appreciate you having me on and uh always a
pleasure to share a little insight with you, Great Lou.
And before we get into some of your thoughts on
the Super Bowl and UFC card next week, were the

(19:38):
title a title about refresh your the folks with your
uh what I would call a very intelligent approach and
what you call the measured the measured approach to betting. Well, Bernie,
I come from Omaha, Nebraska, and there uh the Oracle
of Omaha. Guy named Warren Buffett lives and dwell and

(20:00):
he's he's a he's a business leader and really a
role model for all people that lived there, and growing
up listening to his business insight was always very interesting
and not really being a you know, the a natural businessman,

(20:20):
I gravitated and took his advice and applied it to
sports gaming and the and the first thing that he
really focused on when he asked if he had to
pick a slew of stocks, how he would do his
his opinion was that if they gave him fifty stocks
to pick, that he'd probably be just under because that's

(20:43):
not how he did it. Rather, the approach that he
took was very selective and that he would choose to
study one, two or three businesses, know those businesses as
well as the people that ran them, and select that way.
So rather than taking an approach to try and bet

(21:06):
every sport, I really quickly learned to narrow my focus
in order to increase my expertise. And and so I'm
going a long way and saying that there's only a
few sports that I really work NFL, UFC hockey playoffs
and the College World Series, and and that's a schedule

(21:27):
throughout the year that really allows me to work almost
one sport at a time throughout the year. It works
very well, and it allows me to specialize in just
a few sports. That's an excellent approach. I know a
guy in town, lou that only bets college football. He
only bets the MAC and does quite well. So that's

(21:48):
an excellent approach in terms of sort of funneling your
energies into a select few so you can concentrate your
your sort of your attention as it were. All right,
let's look ahead, Lou, any early thoughts on the Super
Bowl side total or any potential props that you've got
your eye on. Try and take a more recreational approach

(22:09):
to the Super Bowl. However, early line move this year
in the total, specifically Bernie, has me taking a different approach.
Uh the the opening at fifty one, at least, I'm
looking at, let's call it the super book opener. That
that number went immediately Tuesday to forty eight and a half,

(22:31):
where it's kind of remained the rest of the week.
That's a lot of that's aggressive line movement, and I
disagree with that line movement. Consequently, I think my move
in the Super Bowl I went and bought to I
think that numbers hit its bottom and I believe that
next week, as we get into watching the real betting
of the Super Bowl take place, that will increase each day.

(22:55):
As we get closer to the Super Bowl, I think
we'll see that total rye. I believe it gets back
close to fifty one, or even higher than fifty one
as we approached the game and as the public gets involved,
And it's at that point in time where I'll either
have the choice to come back on an under and
play an arbitrary bat or at least hold advantage with Yeah,

(23:19):
that's a good point, Lou. And the game is being
played indoors, perfect conditions, and you've got too pretty high
powered offenses. Uh, do you the line is currently a
four and a half ram money has come in. Do
you expect it to come back the other way? Back
toward four? Five is kind of a dead number. Where
do you expect the action to be as you get
closer to kick off? Well, that's a great question too,

(23:43):
And I want to think that there that the public
might be on Joe Burrow and Cincinnati. The story is good.
I think you know obviously year l a so or
at least Las Vegas and West Coast. I mean, I
think that We're going to see a lot of Las Vegas,
a lot of l a love in Las Vegas. That said,

(24:06):
I do believe that it could come back and pushed
towards four, maybe even three and a half as we
get closer to game time. I have less strong thoughts
on the side as I do the total talk with
Luf and a Carol Gamble. Lou the measured approach, grant advice,
and there's his opening thoughts in the super Bowl. Let's

(24:26):
get into your wheelhouse, Lou. In the middleweight main event
next week Israel and Donia and Robert Whittaker. Uh, it's
a title about what are your thoughts. There's gonna be
a great fight. This is a rematch actually of a
fight from Whitaker. In that fight had really been at
the he was the champion, he'd been at the end

(24:48):
of a string of long argue as fights. Mentally, physically,
the kid was worn down. I don't think we saw
his best, and I do believe that we can better
from him in this next fight. I believe there's a
little bit of value on him at this point in time.
That said, I think that the the tactic for anyone

(25:11):
that wants to take a look at Whittaker will be
to be as patient as you can be and wait
to make a move on him until right before they
ring the first bell, because there'll be plenty of out
Asanya action coming in from now until the time they
ring that first bell. The thing that jumps at me,
Lo Lou when you look at the tail of the

(25:32):
tape is that I believe is at Asania has an
almost seven in reach advantage. How big is that? In
the UFC in stand up fights it equates to tremendous advantage, Bernie,
and that's just the key of the fight. Whittaker in
their first fight got a little desperate and really tried
to play at Assanya's game. In Ottasanya's most recent loss

(25:56):
when he stepped up to light heavy to fight Ian Blaco,
a block of what's controlled him by wrestling, and I
think we'll see Robert Whittaker absolutely try that tactic and
and look to get out of Son. You onto the
ground where his movement and length is squelched and where
Whittaker's strength can take over. Follow him at gamble on Twitter,

(26:20):
lufen Caro the measured approach, and folks, you want to
save this and listen to the podcast later. Lou, that's
a quite a primer you gave the listening audience tonight
how to focus your energies in betting. Thanks so much
for coming on, Bernie, thanks for having me. Good luck everyone,
enjoy the Super Bowl week. Thanks Lou. That's Lufenit Caro
Gambleu on Twitter. His specialty is ufc uh and you

(26:45):
heard his comments about the Super Bowl coming up. I'm
gonna take you behind the scenes and what finally happened
in the Jim Harbaugh saga. It's over. He is officially
heading back to Michigan, or I think he'll be there
for the duration. I'll tell you what happened leading up
to the meeting in Minnesota Wednesday with the Vikings, what

(27:05):
happened during the meeting, and why it didn't work out.
I never once wavered. I always believe, based on the
moles I have in multiple cities, that at the end
of the day, hardball would return to Michigan. But first
let's go to the man. He's all through of the book.
Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Major League Baseball,

(27:26):
You've got your head in Uranus Brian family with the latest. Okay, Hey,
good to hear from you, Bernie. On that note, will
go from baseball to the NBA. A lot of action,
A frenetic list of games here to get to from Saturday,
including the Bucks as they curve the Trailblazers one thirty
seven to one, o Jana's Adenta Coompo putting up twenty

(27:47):
nine points. And then there was Bobby Portius putting on
a show with his thirty points eleven of thirteen from
the field. This man, the Big Man went to Arkansas
six of eight from downtown as well. Lebron James made
his come back after sitting out the last five games
with a knee injury, and he amassed a triple double

(28:08):
to pilot the Lakers over the next one to one,
fifteen in overtime. Mind you, and l A did overcome
a twenty one point second quarter deficit in the process,
and they're now just two games below five. The Suns
have the best record in the NBA at forty two
and ten. After they disgrace the Wizards to eighty the

(28:31):
Whiz eleven points that's all they scored in the second quarter.
The heat, they get the job done against the Hornets
one of four. It's eighties six by outscoring Charlotte thirty
five to eight in the third quarter. Also, the Grizzlies
whip up on the Magic one to one fifteen in Orlando.
As far as college basketball, it's concerned. Number three U C.

(28:55):
L A went into Arizona State territory and fell in
triple overtime eight seven to eighty four. Of the Bruins
shot just five of twenty two from long range, and
now they have a two game losing streak, and we'll
try to rebound on Tuesday at Stanford. Number two Gonzaga
puncturing b Y You how about this score ninety to

(29:18):
fifty seven, chat home grin twenty points, seventeen rebound, six
assists in five blocks. You call that multitasking. Number nine
Duke all over U n C. Eighty seven to sixty seven,
A J. Griffin scoring twenty seven points. There was also
number five Kentucky battering Alabama sixty six to fifty five.

(29:39):
Bam them shot just twenty eight percent from the field
and ten percent, Bernie from three point range. I would think, Bernie,
if you and I got out there on the court,
we would do better than ten percent. Again, we don't
have a hand in our face like these guys do
at this high level of division one ball. But with
that I sent it back to you. Yeah, man, I

(29:59):
can show up from behind the ark stop me at
your own risk. Man, sack off me, and you're gonna
have a problem. All right, Just you've been warned. Thanks Brian.
All Right, Jim, the Jim Harbaugh saga, which really in
effect lasted thirty three days, came to a conclusion, uh
Wednesday in Minnesota. And uh, and I would just say this, Um,

(30:24):
I liken it to a movie I saw many many, many,
many many years ago. Was an independent film. It was
a story of three young ladies who decided to travel
to Alaska because they wanted to find husbands and they
had heard that in Alaska men outnumbered women tend to one.
They returned home three months later, none of them with husbands,

(30:48):
and uh, of course folks were inquisitive asking them what happened,
to which they replied, well, we got there and the
odds were good, but the goods were odd, so there
or they didn't close the deal, and neither to Jim Harball.
And it was an odd situation. Uh, you've heard my
updates on this show and with Brian Familey and Jason

(31:11):
Martin and Artie Spanier over the last few weeks and
two weeks ago tonight it looked like it was really
I had said it was n become like N Hardball
had been. You know, he was on the recruiting trail.
He was going to hockey games on campus. He picked
up his new courtesy car from the dealership that he
gets every year. All the you know TVs were there,

(31:32):
and then the Vikings hired a new GM by the
name of Queasy adolfel Mensa, who's a brilliant man. UH
interesting background, came from Wall Street, not a football guy,
but he and Jim Harball had actually had a history
in UH in San Francisco in two thousand thirteen, two
thousand and fourteen before Hardball left. So Hardball reached out

(31:53):
to Menta and said he was interested in the job.
Benson said, are you sure? Are you really sure? Hardball
said yes. Well, then they had an exploratory phone call,
and based on that phone call, Hardball flew to Minnesota
Wednesday for his in person interview. Hould that thought because
at that point Mentsa had already interviewed Kevin O'Connell, the

(32:16):
rams O C and I was told on Friday before
the on the Friday before the Wednesday that Hardball flew
to Minnesota. If you can follow this, that Kevin O'Connell
was going to be their number one choice. Damik O
Ryan's close second, the defensive coordinator from San Francisco. He
ended up pulling his name out of the mix before
Sunday's game in the NFC Championship. Again follow along. So

(32:39):
Harball gets on a plane Tuesday night and the Twitter
sphere was going bananas. The group that GEcho chamber was
on fire. It's a formality. Hardball said his goodbyes. He's
taken the job. You know, goodnight Irene. Uh, don't forget
to lock the door. No, okay. I made so and

(33:00):
calls and some texts, and I was told, no, it's
not a formality. That just simply is not true. And
here's why, because Quisya dopel Menso did not have the
autonomy to make that decision. The Wilves who in the
Minnesota Vikings are really terrific people. They're very measured, they're
very what I would call dignified in the sense of um,

(33:22):
They're they're going to be a multiple factors on who
they determined will coach their team, and one of the
things they wanted very much was continuity. And even though
Mike Zimmer never really got him to the Promised Land.
And I think the Vikings fandom feel that they've really
fallen short in what the expectations would have been. And
of course that miracle, uh that put the Saints into

(33:44):
the NFC. I don't worry. I don't want to make
Vikings have to relive that. Okay, that that was tough one,
but the bottom line is one of the concerns that
the Wolves had was, you know, the stability of Jim Harball.
Would you get it chief they brought him in in
two or three years. Uh. They were also very concerned
that you just had your best season at Michigan, twelve

(34:05):
win season. Michigan hadn't won twelve games in twenty five years.
Your beat Ohio State, you got to the playoffs, it
won't the Big Ten. And on National recruiting Day, and
I get it, it's it was more optics because everybody
was already signed. Um, why are you here in Minnesota
when you should be with your team? And I do
think that bothered the Wolves. I'm not gonna lie. There
were people in the room that were Hardball attractors, and

(34:26):
one of them was a minority owner of the Vikings
who was in Michigan alone. He's been a minority owner
of the Vikings his two thousand five. I believe his
name is Jim Stapleton. I do not know Jim Staples,
and I've never talked to Jim Stapleton, but people I
trust told me he was not a Hardball fan, and
he's in the Wolf's here. I'm also told that Wilf

(34:47):
may have refielded phone calls. Some other people who worked
with Jim harballs to be careful, and so Hardball's past
pecadillos and his idiosyncrasies and his qualms, and he's very
eccentric caught up with him, and I think the Wills
were very uncomfortable. But what was most interesting is that
I really think Hardball thought that he was just there
to get the offer. And yeah, they were going to

(35:08):
go through the process like Todd Graham didn't, the other
interviewees did. But really it was a formality. He was
going to get the offer. It's my understanding that Hardball,
you know, was fairly well incredulous mid afternoon when the
light bulb went off to his head and he realized,
I'm not getting the offer, United folks. Time to go.

(35:30):
No senses uh no, no sense in being here and
uh I. He called Ward Manual, his boss, the athletic director,
their friends, they were teammates at Michigan under Bow, and
said I'm coming back and I'm staying and I'm not
gonna make this an annual thing. And I believe him
for a couple of reasons. I think he had a revelation.
It's what I call the Bobby Knight syndrome. When Bobby

(35:52):
Knight was fired from Indiana and then a few years
later he took a head coaching job in Lubbock, Texas
and Texas Tech. It was because, um, you know, he
realized the spotlight. He missed the spotlight a lot more
than the spotlight missed him. Hardball, I think has come
to the realization that his his demand or perceived demand

(36:16):
in the NFL really isn't what he thought it was.
Because in thirty three days, what do we hear? You know,
three weeks ago, Bruce Feldman writing articles, Well, if Jim
Harball is offered the raider's job, he might take it.
That's he wasn't wrong. He was never gonna be off
for the Raider's job because I look where I live
in Las Vegas, Look where the Raiders are. I got
people I talked to. Uh did Hardball work on that

(36:37):
staff in two thousand three? Yeah, work where a guy
named Ed Dodds at Dodds was now an assistant Jim
in Indianapolis. So conspiracy theories for ran while that they
bring in Ad Dodds and Dodds with Hardball. No, no, no, no.
Mark Davis realized after giving uh, John Gruden megalomaniacle, all
all sewing, all seeing power, that was never gonna happen again.

(37:00):
He's not gonna hand pick a coach. They went through
a very measured process. They end up with the tannem
You know about that. Harborne ever interviewed with the Raiders.
Harborne ever interviewed with the Bears. I understand they had
phone conversations. Once the Bears realized Hardball allegedly wanted John
Grud money, he was off the table. Never interviewed with
the Giants, So he had a matt. He had a
total of one in person interview in thirty three days,

(37:20):
and I just told you how it went. But I
think he's come to the realization that the NFL is
not the same league he was in. And it's not
that the game has passed him by, because Hardball would
build a culture anywhere he's at and but we're not
a bit of a copycat league. That's why you're seeing
the Matt Lafleur's and the Sean mcveigh's and now the
Zach Taylor's. This is the new trend. The NFL is

(37:42):
an offensive league. You're bringing an offensive guru and you
get yourself a quarterback and the next thing you know,
you're gonna be pretty tough to beat um. I also
think that Hardball and his father and he realized, you know,
it hurt Hardball to lose the Super Bowl, but he
doesn't like to lose it anything and very much heard
him to lose that Super Bowl, but to lose to
his brother was even worse. It was always presumed he

(38:05):
might be back, but he really kind of needed to
beat Ohio State and get over the hump to have
the marketability. So he did what a lot of people
would do, and that is take advantage of maybe striking
while the iron was hot and in the perfect world,
if somebody would have strolled in and offered him ten
million a year or the year he might have gone,
he might have. I'm still not a percent year he
would have, but he might have. But at the end

(38:25):
of the day, after all the speculation and conjecture and
group think, echo chamber opinions based on two things, the
fact that I really believe at the end of the day,
Hardball's hard is at Michigan because he's driven by admiration.
He's driven by respect, he's driven by being chased, he's
driven by being relevant. He has all that at Michigan.

(38:46):
He has total power at Michigan. It makes all the
money he needs to make. You know, if if someone
offered Jim Harball a hundred million dollars, yeah, that'd be nice.
You can buy a lot of Hebrew Nationals with that.
But it's what the hundred million dollar contract represents symbolically
is the thing that would drive Harbaugh more so than
the actual money itself. Jim Harbaugh, the two million dollars

(39:09):
he got in bonuses as a result of beating a
house state and went in the Big ten. He he
distributed among athletic department staffers whose salaries had been compromised
during COVID. So this is a guy that's very complex,
very nuanced, and at the end of the day, uh,
no one really knows what he's gonna do but him.

(39:29):
But I was able to sort of read the tea leaves,
talk to people that I know that are closer to
the situation, and you start to use deductive reasoning. And
at the end of the day, again I keep saying
that when the genuine NFL interest wasn't really there, and
to the degree that he thought it would be, Jim
Harball thought it would be. That was a bit of

(39:51):
a revelation. Michigan stuck with him through all this, Michigan
stuck with him through losing all those years of Ohio State.
At the end of the day, I think he's back
home where his heart is, and his father, who lives
across the street, who really believes he thinks Jim is
doing God's work, is in his corner, and so are
a lot of Michigan people who frankly are very excited

(40:12):
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You know, Mackenzie, I know we're gonna get to this
year's Super Bowl. A little later in the show, incurring
in including some early props you might have. But Russ

(42:51):
never sleeps here in Vegas. It's never too soon. You've
already got the early Super Bowl favorites for next year. Yes,
And doesn't it seem just a little bit like the
football season has wrapped up just in the last couple
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the NFL is too smart for that. They've made it
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(43:14):
everyone wants to know, how does your team stack up
for the shot at the big one next year? Well,
who do you like? The Buffalo Bills or the Kansas
City Chiefs. That was the biggest question this year coming
into the playoffs. That's the biggest question next year. When
you look at the Super Bowl odds, a lot of variation.
If you look at some of the Sharper books like Westgate,
Nevada here in Vegas, they have the Buffalo Bills as

(43:37):
the super Bowl favorite at seven to one. But if
you look at all the books, you take a smortgage
board of all the you know, different kind of books
out there. The Kansas City Chiefs again for the fourth
year in a row, are the consensus Super Bowl favorites.
Who do you think out of those two? Obviously they
had the game of the year this year. You know,
anybody could have wanted a true coin flip game. Who

(43:57):
do you think should be favored going to next year?
The Bills are the Chiefs. Well, if you if my
choices those two, McKenzie, I'm gonna go with the Chiefs.
For some reason, It's just not in Buffalo's DNA to
beat Kansas City, uh when it matters, So I would
trust Kansas City more than I would trust Buffalo, although
on paper Buffalo looks awfully good and you could always

(44:18):
go off the board. I'm gonna ask you in a
minute if you have a sleeper. I have one I'll
tell you about. I'm gonna go with the Chiefs too.
I think losing Brian Dable is a sneaky big loss
for the Bills. I looked up teams at one ten
plus games have the same coach in the same quarterback.
Only one in four actually beat their season win expectation
the next year, So the Bills have their work cut

(44:40):
out for him. But for my sleeper, I honestly think
the tines See Titans there twenty two to one right now.
I think Tannehill's a fine quarterback. They probably have two
to one odds if he's the quarterback. But you just
heard Aaron Rodgers bought Land by Nashville. Russell Wilson might
like Sierra up in Nashville. That's my sleeper, the Tennessee Titans.

(45:02):
You have anybody thinking I'll tell you their odds, could
I'm gonna jamre for now because I want to see
what Pittsburgh does with a quarterback and what Denver maybe
does with a quarterback. Although I'm on record is saying
Mackenzie that I do think Aaron Rodgers will be back
in Green Bay. We'll talk about that in future shows.
But I do like your Tennessee pick because I have
a lot of faith in Mike Vrabel and I think

(45:22):
they just coughed up the bit that one day. But
they're gonna be back in a big way next year.
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