Chris Plank & Arnie Spanier Talk Lakers Struggles, MLB Drama & NFL OT

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. Let's go stay in genius.
Let's go look at the energy on you coming from
Palm Springs back to Olkoholma, let's go. Let's go from
Palm String, Palm Springs to a quick stop in Vegas.
Why did did you play any games or anything like that? Well,

(00:21):
it was I only had like thirty minutes there you
plenty time. I've always been told the old wives tale.
I guess is do not play air plots in the airport, right?
And that what you're always told? Or did someone? Did
they lie to me? So I stayed ready, here's the problem.
As we welcome you, lay to Arnie and Plank on

(00:43):
Fox Sports Radio. Danny g has booked a hell of
a show. Has back out of retirement from the weekends.
John Ramos, are you kidding me? Made him work tonight.
Let's call it. Let's call enough full cavalry tonight. Sorry,
Bubba's good. He just we did a little mixing and
matching because taking care of the depth and the and

(01:05):
and the illnesses. The fans all good, So show me
back next week. But awesome to have Romo's here and
Steven Sager on updates here tonight in the millions and
millions of editors behind the scene. Here's the problem for
me is now inside the Las Vegas Airport there is
a Raiders shop. Danny g have you seen this before?

(01:27):
It is? And again you gotta remember, I've lived my
life in St. Louis. So St. Louis and technically I
mean I claimed St. Louis, but I'm from the right
side of the river. So I've lived in Wood River, Illinois, Tulsa, Oklahoma,
and Norman, Oklahoma, not necessarily the hot bed for Raiders gear, right,
And I'm a die hard Raiders fan. In other words,

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if you see a Raiders out at a place, you're like,
how did that get here? So and with and again
I get it now with with the internet, in Amazon,
you can order anything from anywhere. But already I have
a fat head, so I need to try hats on.
I've got to see if it fits right. Dude, I
could have Do you do you know how much money
I could have spent in that place? Oh, you should

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see the Raider Image store that is right connected to
the front of the new Allegiance Stadium. Don't tell me
that it is. It is a Raider Image store. On steroids.
It's the size of ten of the stores that they
have up and down the coast in California. There is
one on City Walk. If you ever visit Universal Studios,
there's a Raider image. They're supposed to go. They're supposed
to go there. This summer um question. I ever tell

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you my Raiders store? I don't know I've ever told you.
This is this about you doing sidelines? Yes, you have
no No, I thought about me doing sidelines. I was
in a Raider game. This this, this is really gonna
date me. And like about four or five seats down,
a famous actor, I'll tell you about a second stands up.
He goes, I'm buying launch? Who's getting? And I immediately
raised my hands and I said, you guy was James

(02:54):
Gardener because he was a big Raid fan. Uh sooner too.
So anyway, your your story much more important than my question.
So I'm glad we got that out of the way.
And that time he uh he shot up with Lyle
Elsado that you're gonna share that story, Ernie? Did you
do that? Alright? Just here I hear rumors when did
ball Caps become forty dollars airport? Thing? Is that an

(03:17):
airport thing our hats? Now forty dollars? Like, I'm thinking
I'm gonna get a ball cap? Why not? Right, I'm
in Vegas and it's a conversation starter. Soon says you're
Raiders fan, not only am my Raiders fan? Got this
in Vegas? Right? I mean, what do you want to
talk about the weather? But yeah, like forty bucks, Arnie?
When when when did they start buying ball caps? And

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you don't bend them in half? Man? I immediately been
mine in half a little bit. People don't do that anymore.
Now you you mentioned the famous actor James Gardner. You
may have shown your age even more by revolting against
the flat bill community. I can't Danny g can rock
a flat bill hat. When he does, I cannot. It

(03:58):
just doesn't look right night, I had is misshapen. So
forty bucks for hat. I'm a little bit uh. I
was gonna call the boss man and be like, hey,
can I get a couple more shifts because I honestly
could have ended up cleaning out that entire place, and
just one fell swoop. It was incredible. So I'm on
cloud nine. I had a chance to fly over Allegiance
Stadium and now I get a chance to talk sports

(04:20):
with you for this second time in three days. Look
at us had a chance to fill in for Jason
Smith and Mike Carmen on Friday night. Now we're back
after tonight, and absolutely nothing has seemed to change in
the sports world, right, Can we can we go back
and play the show from Friday night? Unless you want
to like jump all over stuff I feel tonight, I
feel like there was more sports going on when we
didn't have any sports at all than there, You know

(04:42):
what I mean, Like I'm watching the Lakers and the
Pelicans an embarrassment. I mean, seriously, the Lakers are absolutely
embarrassing themselves tonight. Well, I mean they were embarrassing in
the first half against the Clippers on Friday night. Then
the next thing you know, it's it's a tight game
with moments to go. So I have to call my
old high schoo cool buddy, Genie Buss and try to
give her some advice. I'm sure she'll take my call. Well,

(05:04):
let's let's start there. What advice would you give her?
Oh jeez, this isn't sure. Okay, Well, Genie Buss picks
up the phone. Bring bring hey, Hardy, I don't know.
I don't have a Jerry bus boy, a Genie bus
boy genius. Sorry, hey, hey, Geenie, remember me. I was
gonna ask you out to Westwood to go see Animal House.

(05:24):
That was the new movie was High School? Never heard
of you? But okay, So Genie Buss calls you. At
the end of this season, the Lakers shaf to the Pelicans,
knowing it's not gonna get any better. What do you do?
What well? I said to the story, if it's if
it's if it's a true rumor for the New York Knicks,

(05:45):
then I'll just go ahead and throw it out for
the l a Lakers. Then, um, you see the story
that said to where it said that Knicks were hot
and heavy going after Donovan Mitchell? Right? Did you see
that one? So they think Donovan? Why why would the
Jazz get read of Donovan Mitchell? I? I onway could
I gave you the story says Donovan Mitchell trade rumors
getting louder is Nick's plans major swoop on jazz star.

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So if he is available and then Nicks are hot
and heavy after him, I would tell jan I think
that's the way you want to go. I try to
go ahead, pull that off. If you can. You it.
Maybe it may take some doing, but I would try
to go in that direction. Well, okay, let's let's I
see the story again. I've got to scroll back a
little bit because Arnie has no care for time zones

(06:27):
and will tweet you as soon as he wakes up
at six am, which is five am and two am
on the West Coast. Um I, I guess my question
would be, you think it's it's just a bogus story
that number one. No, I'm not saying about the story.
I don't know. I haven't heard anything about it. Where
is it from? I mean, is this from Nicks fans
dot blog spot dot com? Because every story I hear

(06:49):
about boy the Knicks could be interested in Damian Lillard,
he immediately isn't interested in the Knicks. Um Nick's. Nick's
all in on Kevin Durant not interested in the Knicks,
wasn't even his final two and in back the day
they want to wrestle Westbrook. You can have it now, well,
I mean, even if he even if it's not to
the New York Knicks, if he is available, that's there
it is. There's the overriding question where is this coming from.

(07:09):
That's even theorizing that he would be available right now? Right? Well,
I think it was from New York said New York
Knicks update. I don't know where it came from. It's
the New York Knicks news. I get um, and it
gives me stuff on um all the other stuff that's
going on with them. So I don't know who writes it. Um. Okay,
let's see here Nicks rumors on the show. Okay, he stuff.
I don't know. I guess maybe each story is different.

(07:31):
I don't know. Okay, Well, who who cares about that?
As long as you give me a guy juicy rumor,
you know, give me something to be happy about, since
this started with the Lakers and you made it about
your Knicks. Here here is is what New York Knicks
Executive vice president uh William Wesley is apparently on the
verge of trying to do, which is gearing up to

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make a trade offer for Donovan Mitchell. Quote. This is
from Steve Popper in Newsday. He writes a core to
the same person who pointed to Wesley's criticism of Tom A. Thibodeaux.
Wesley has been selling his plan one that will eventually
land Donovan Mitchell, a New York native. But this is

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not schmoozing a high school player or steering him to
a college of his choice. And it's not so simple
even if the relationships are in place. Rose served as
a former agent for Mitchell, and the front office also
inserted Johnny Bryant as associate head coach after Bryant served
as an assistant in Utah. So they're trying to piece

(08:35):
some things together, but I don't know where that trade with.
I guess Mitchell would be open returning to New York,
but didn't. Lebron James mentioned that he'd be open to
returning to Cleveland too. Actually know that that that was
a misunderstanding. We'll get No, did you see that that
was a misunderstanding? What you mean the media went and
ran with something that was a misunderstanding. No, he said

(08:57):
that he would he still wants to play for the Lakers,
but he would retire year as a cavaliery, you know,
one of those one day things. That's That's what I
listened to shows all week long that we're theorizing what
it would take for Lebron James to return to Cleveland.
You're telling me that our our brethren might have run
with a story without reading the five. No. No, that's

(09:17):
because Lebron realized what the hell am I Doinghen I
got when year left on a contract, and I gotta
I gotta stay here in Los Angeles for a while.
So by my whole point is that, I mean, that's
the first thing I would tell Genie if Donovan Mitchell
is available, Now, what do I gotta give up? I
assume Westbrook's gonna have to be in there. Um, gosh,
you're gonna have to give up a boatload. But as
long as you keep Lebron and Anthony Davis, I'll be

(09:38):
good to go. I'll give up everything just about to
go and get him. So let's just let's drill a
little deeper on this, just for arguments. Say the Utah
Jazz are currently thirty eight and twenty two, How they're
ten games back the top spot in their conference. Spot,
seem to have a pretty solid crew. Now you might
point to, well, Donovan Mitchell doesn't lie Crudy Gobart, after

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all the COVID stuff from a couple of years ago.
That's also two years ago. They played a lot of
games together and been at each other a lot since then.
The Knicks currently sit at eleven games under five and
five games out of the actual playing tournament. I get it,
it's New York, right, and you want to you're from
New York. But I feel like he's got a pretty

(10:22):
good don't I don't know where these would come from,
I guess, is my point? Why would you want to
leave Utah? Well? Who was it that said we don't
even play Utah when we're playing Maddens? You know, I
don't know if there's a lot of exciting to us
not on there. But I get what you're saying. That's
not bad when you're playing you know, your your video games.
But um, I mean, come on now, who wants to

(10:43):
go ahead and you know, be out there. Maybe there's
not enough excitement for him. I don't know. Maybe you
just want to go ahead and you know, try something
different than go back to your to your hometown. Okay,
so there's one. Try to try to make a play
for Donovan Mitchell, is it? Because here's my thought, and
we're talking Lakers. Listen, as this show goes on tonight

(11:04):
for the second time in three days, we are going
to try to get a Laker insider on the program.
When this game wraps up, Danny g how are we
feeling about Chris McGee for the final hour, You're feeling good, feeling?
How are you feeling? It is up to the refs
because the last game on Friday night, Remember the last
five minutes the Lakers game was in eternity. It took

(11:26):
like fifteen minutes in real time, and that's what kept
McGhee off our show. So if it's a regular ending
to the game, right, we're good. Well, So then my
question if Chris Keeter McGee joined us and I want
to ask him that I would pose to you. Blaker
fans are a very patient group, understandably, so right, there's

(11:47):
a lot of banners that are home a lot of
all stars. I mean, watch the Showtime. That's funny, an
HBO features called Showtime. But to watch the HBO show
Showtime about the Lakers. I mean, it was glitzy, was
glam it was amazing. Can you say, just let everyone
get healthy. It's just a matter of time. These three
guys who only played together five times, we have no choice.

(12:10):
That you have no choice, Chris, what else you gonna do? Yeah,
you're stuck with it. So you might as well go
ahead and play it on out. And you know, you
just mentioned the Showtime real quick, one thing about them
that was probably the last team, and that would make
people that weren't even basketball fans go ahead and turn
on the TV. My mom used to go ahead and
watch the Lakers. I go, what are you doing tonight
about you? The Lakers are playing tonight. I gotta watch

(12:31):
the I have to watch the Lakers. She didn't care
to watch basketball other than watching the Showtime Lakers. And
see what I'm serious. I mean, that's even people that
were just not even basketball fans wanted to watch them.
And I get it, and I agree, I agree, But man,
it's it's a tough sell right now. I thought, and
maybe this is just insane homerism on my part, Arnie,

(12:53):
I thought they might come out and play really well
to start the second half of the season. I really did.
I thought they might come out win the game on Friday,
win tonight, get a little momentum. Looks like I'm dead wrong,
looks like I'm not even close to being right right
now because they are. It's not looking good for the
Lakers or down night. At the half. We'll talk more
about it with Chris Geter McGhee coming up later on

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the program. But when we come back, Artie, are you
ready to try to figure out if we're in a
good place with baseball? Yet? Not? Really? I mean, I'll
do it, but I'm to the point now that I'm
just pulling out every last air I have on my
head about this. You're as frustrated as I am, is
what you're saying. Well, Bob Nightingale joined us on Friday
night and seem to sell a little bit of I

(13:36):
don't know, a positive mindset right. He kind of had
us thinking, Okay, what's going on here? Bob Nightingale said
he felt like a deal would get done between the
players and MLB this week. Well, when we come back
on Fox Sports Radio, the Great John Paul Morossy will
join us. Will pick his brain. Is baseball on the
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Jardi and playing f Fox sports radio genre almost bringing
us back with the black keys Lot's go Danny g
right on the show. Steve Saeger has got an update
in about ten minutes from now, but right now. One
of the best follows on Twitter, not just for baseball
but hockey too, John Paul Morossi is in the house. Uh,

(15:12):
John Paul first and foremost man, thanks hanging out with us.
Should we start being concerned about the short nature of
these meetings or is it all procedural right now between
MLB and the Players Association? Well, good evening, gentlemen. The
next twenty four hours, I would say, are crucial in
determining what the future of the sport is, certainly for

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two but maybe even for years beyond that. We are
now at this moment of urgency. I think by duration
of meetings, Sunday was as encouraging of a day as
we have seen. The question now is can they move
far enough quickly enough in negotiations to get a deal
done by tomorrow's UH set deadline by MLB to start

(15:57):
the regular season on time? And I think we all
know what's at stake here. If there's no on time
start of the regular season. MLB has said that we
will not see a full one sixty two games schedule,
and the Union has indicated that perhaps if they don't
start that season on time on March thirty one, that
their support for an expanded playoff format, which the owners

(16:20):
desperately want to have, could well evaporate. So a lot
of the things that are talked about in the next
twenty four hours, gentlemen, I think we'll determine how we
watch the game and when we start to watch the
game for a long time to come, you know, j
JP dot if. But when we start losing games, and
I think that's what's gonna happen. What are gonna be
the long term effects and short term effects on the

(16:42):
game of baseball? How's it going to affect it. I mean,
people are gonna come back, aren't they. People are gonna
forgive and forget. That's what they always do, well, Arenie.
It's a great question, and I do think there is
still Maybe it's the the optimist in me, the glimmer
of hope that perhaps the deadline will force the side
to really get that compromise in the next twent or
four hours. I think it's the least the possibility. Uh

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what percentage, It is hard to know, but I do
think that when you talk about what the future of
the game is, it's important for every stakeholder in baseball,
whether it's owner, commissioner's office, players union, the players themselves,
the individual teams, and the fans. Certainly, the world has
changed since the last work stoppage ended back. Think how

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different things were in terms of social media not being
around at that point in time, The way in which
our entertainment focus has has fractured so much, different leagues
around the world that now have some of the market share.
And I really think every day that you spend without
having your game in front of the viewer, in front

(17:49):
of the fan, in front of the consumer, is a
chance that that fan finds something else and doesn't come back.
And so I do think you're right that that true
baseball all fans will come back. If it's a meaningful
part of your life, you're gonna want to share that
with your family, with your friends, your loved ones. I
I certainly understand that. Obviously I'm someone that's life has

(18:10):
been around the game, so that I'm certainly in that camp.
But there are a lot of people who are perhaps
a bit more casual, uh in their affinity for baseball,
who could very easily be taken away by a different
sport or different pursuits, something outside of sports entirely e sports,
whatever it might be. I think that the the ability
for consumers to switch their preferences has never been more fluid.

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And if there is a meaningful work stoppage that affects
now the regular season, which again has not yet happened,
but we're about twenty four hours away from that line
being crossed, I do wonder about just how many fans
would come back in relative terms of what we saw
back in So with Adam, it's a great that's a

(18:54):
great point, John. It's something I hope everyone has on
their radar. Is this now just a matter of getting
guys getting the game back. I mean, are we done
with the concerns about, Hey, let's sit and let's try
to do things to quote unquote fix the game. And again,
I don't think baseball needs fixing, but at least to
kind of speed things up, maybe find some different ways
to become more entertaining to some. But are we past

(19:20):
even thinking about that now or are we at this
point where hey, we're gonna have to worry about any
of those issues another time. We just got to get
back on the field. I think there is a relationship there, Chris,
But between the two, uh, it is a very unique
time because there actually has been a response by the
players to indicate that they would perhaps like to change

(19:42):
some of the language that allows MLB too unilaterally um
change the rules. And I think that that is something
in terms of the on field rules I should clarify
that is something the Union, of course, would like to
have more of a voice on, whether it's pitch clock,
whether it's banning the shift, which has been talked about,
other rules that have been explored at the body league levels.

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I'm someone who obviously loves baseball, but also looks at
it and says, we we have to make some adjustments.
We there are some things, by the way that are
going well at the youth levels of the game. I
think if you look every year at the first round
of the draft, first couple rounds of the draft, that
the American players are becoming more diverse in their backgrounds,
where they come from and around the country. I think

(20:26):
that's really important and something that baseball should be proud of.
But that positive data point has been I think kind
of lost in the larger conversation about where we're at,
how how the game is either easily watched or not
easily watched based on the pace of play. A whole
host of issues that go into how long the game

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takes and how how few balls are in play based
on the number of strikeouts and the number of walks.
So those things have to get resolved for I think
the game to really move forward and and capture is
broad of a field as you can. I fully understand
that if it's a if it's a four hour World
Series game with tons of twists and turns of drama,
that's I think we all understand as part of the

(21:08):
charm of October. Perhaps less appealing is the four hour
game that's tended to in July, and how does that
help you grow the game? That to me, growing the
game is something that matters a lot to me personally.
I think it matters lots of the people that are
sitting around that table right now bargaining in Florida, but
they have different understandings and conceptions on what that means.

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That all has to get aligned at least as much
as possible in the next twenty four hours, because I
really believe the compromise points are there to come to
an accord. And what has to happen, gentlemen, is as
soon as this deal is done, we we have to
see these people not just individually go and have separate
press conferences, but sit at the same press conference, shake hands,

(21:54):
emerge and say listen, we clearly had our differences, but
now we have to get the game back on the field,
grow our sport. That has to be at the forefront,
because without that kind of an attitude and without that
kind of a collaboration, all of the the delays now
in the in these negotiations will be for not if

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they cannot emerge from this with the United Front about
how baseball becomes a stronger sport five years from now
than it is today. Well, well, JP straightened out some
of the rumors. Because you get all the information you
you certainly know you're you're tied to what's going on there.
I thought a couple of days ago things were looking
positive than what yesterday. The owners played hardball was like
they drew a line in the sand. I don't know

(22:37):
what they're demanding, but I guess Major League Baseball the
players were just absolutely livid, wanted to walk away from
the negotiation tables. Why the heart is that true? And
why the hardcore stands and why do that now? Well,
I think that Arnie, that there was some frustration by
MLB's part that they have said consistently that they were
not going to negotiate up the percentage of players who

(23:01):
have between two and three years of service time who
are eligible for salary arbitration, and they were not going
to bring more players into the Super two program, if
you will, And and the union has dropped that percentage,
but but is still negotiating on that on what that percentages.
MLB keeps saying we're not going to talk about that percentage,

(23:22):
and the union has given them new percentages to consider.
And MLB came keep saying we're not talking about that.
So will that change in the last twenty four hours,
Based on the public comments, it appears it would not change.
So I think that that that approach by the union
frustrated MLB, and they sort of rather than responding just

(23:44):
in rhetoric to say your offer disappointed me, they put
forth an offer that they knew would disappoint the union,
and and and back and forth they go. And so
this is where there has to be whether it's a
midpoint compromise on some of these details, whether the competitive balance,
tax other aspects of how many spots are going to

(24:04):
be lottery in the draft going forward, This is the time,
this is the hour for there to be compromised. And
and while while perhaps we don't have a whole lot
of concrete information that suggests that a compromising a deal
is close, and in fact, no one close to it
that I've talked to has ever suggested to me that

(24:25):
a deal is quote unquote close, However, remember this industry,
we have arbitration deadlines, we have trade deadlines. And I
can't tell you, guys how many times we've had the
three of us have had conversations at a lot of
different times on the air in recent years. It could
be July. You could ask me what's the latest on
Max Scherzer's trade conversations. I can tell you everybody says

(24:47):
he's not going anywhere, the Nationals won't talk to anybody.
And then all of a sudden, two days later he
was almost traded to San Diego, and then he went
to the Dodgers, and so all of a sudden, things
can change very quickly in this sport. So that's why
I've tried to avoid absolutes here. I do think there
are some points where a compromise has to happen, and
has to happen quickly. The good news is, I do

(25:09):
believe both sides have a pretty good understanding of the
numbers that could work. Now just a matter of getting
comfortable with those numbers and making sure that you have
your full support. Of course, for the owners, two thirds
of the clubs have to vote for it, so uh
on issues like revenue sharing, etcetera. Then are someone contentious
from large club to small club. Rob Manford has to

(25:30):
keep his caucus together. To use the political term, love it, John,
We appreciate your time. Keep grinding. Go follow them on Twitter.
Has got all the latest news at John Morrossy and
we'll talk to you again soon. Man, anytime, my friend
is gonna be one of those weeks. I think we'll
be up late, So give me a call anytime. Okay,
thank j thank you. It's awesome at John MORROSSI on

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a Twitter. All right, a little bit behind, we got
ahead of the This is not gonna make any sense.
We fell behind on the clock, but we got ahead
of the chains. On our next segment, how's that? Steve
de Sager joined us to get us caught up on
everything in the world of sports. What's up, Steve? Well,
the Lakers stink, so let's keep talking about what we're
talking about. Uh well, they were down seventeen a moment

(26:11):
ago with seventeen turnout. By the way, they said, in
the first half, with the sixteen Laker turnovers, that ties
the most in any first half by any Lebron James
team ever in the NBA. Uh yeah. Baseball owners want
the power to implement the rule changes quickers and not
wait a year. They also want an international draft. The
Union certainly does not want that, and the major economic

(26:31):
issues are still like minimum salary about do you know
minimum wage in baseball is about five hundred seventy thousand
dollars a year. The union wants like seven hundred seventy
thousand a year. Revenue sharing is a major issue and
the luxury text the competitive balance tax on teams as
they call it, and Major League Baseball wanted this weekend
the tie the coming amateur draft lottery to expanding the

(26:55):
playoffs from ten up to fourteen total teams in the postseason.
Players have said okay, to twelve. That it's not been
agreed on, and once they start chopping off regular season
games this coming week, then that will be another issue
that they're going to have to These players don't make
money until they're like thirty or something like that, that
they really gonna make the big money unless they're superstars.
Well it's years of service. It's in their twenties. But yeah,

(27:16):
and what's this One of the things that was actually
a great idea that came up yesterday. Service time manipulation
has come up because you have a half prospect, Like
when Chris Bryant was coming up with the Cubs, Guess what,
he didn't make the opening day roster and a few
weeks later he came up. Guess why he didn't have
a full year of service that delays his free agent
time later in his career. Well. Now, the proposal is,

(27:38):
if a player finished his first or second for Rookie
of the Year, he's credited with a full year of service,
whether he started on opening day in the majors or not.
So some things have been decided. We know there will
be a draft lottery, we know there will be a
d H in both leagues, but there are major issues
still going. Uh. Speaking of major issues, I didn't hear
the results of this weekend. There were supposed to be

(28:00):
a game between the Arizona Wildcats and the Oklahoma Sooner's
dominant softball team. I'm dying to hear how that went out.
How that show a close game and then Arizona let
it slip away. When was it close? I think it
was four to two, wasn't it? Oh my gosh, it
finished ten to two, Arenie. I don't think you could say, well,
you know it was tight and it was a run

(28:21):
role in five innings. Oh gosh. I hope we play
you in the College World Series. I want to go
to piece. I wouldn't mind playing that Arizona basketball team.
If oh, you makes the n c A, it's okay?
Are all the Oklahoma softball games like a mercy rule?
Like in Little League? One? Want to know when the

(28:42):
next trading is ten nine against Tennessee? How how do
you use extras to beat Tennessee? Come on now, Kada
Coleman's stud walk off home run one today against you all?
Let's go. You just had a trip. Are there any
other trips in your future? With this? Two weeks? I'm
going to Hawaii, so I need to be off in
two sundays? Really? Yeah, get out of here? Wow? Why

(29:03):
did I do softball play by play? Because you all
make fun of it? To go to Hawaii. I've been
to Irvine, California. I've been to Houston Town and I'm
taking a Sunday off for Wichita, Kansas. I've been to
Palm Springs. I'm going to Hawaii two weeks. And this
brings me to my final point. If you were in
Palm Springs, I'm guessing you have seen that complex where

(29:26):
one field looks just like Wrigley Field, that's where they play. Okay,
was this not cool? One looks just like Fenway one fields?
Just like Yankee Stadium. It's pretty cool. Arnie, do you
know what we're talking about. I've seen that he knows
Arizona play softball. It's Cathedral City technically an extra Palm Springs,
but yeah, I've When we were out there for vacation,

(29:49):
I made a point to go over there, even though
there were no games, particularly going out just to see
the place. It's so cool. It's really cool, it's really
well done. What's not cool it's Lakers basketball. Let's see
after tonight, they're to be seven and thirty three this season.
They're losing it home to the Pelicans. Not exactly a
five hundred club, let's just put it that way. Seventy

(30:09):
five to fifty three. It's like an Oklahoma softball game
at this point. Let's just stop it. After four innings done,
Russell Westbrook with seven turnovers, Lakers as a team up
to eighteen turnovers, and from long distance their three of
eighteen three pointers. It's just wow. I would say, how

(30:32):
soon does the season end? But you know it's ended.
We just haven't fessed up to it at this point.
An incredible comeback though at Golden State tonight for the
Dallas Mavericks. They beat the Warriors one oh seven one
oh one, even though Dallas was down by twenty one
mid third quarter. Clippers sent Houston to a ninth straight
loss Philadelphia one. In New York. The Knicks have lost
five in a row. Kyle Larson, the NASCAR winner in

(30:55):
Southern California and the Tampa Bay Bucks Pro Bowl guard
Ali marpet Re tired. He turns twenty nine in April,
but reportedly had concerns about his health. Back to you
don't blame him, thanks a lot, Steve, especially if he's
got plenty of money. Hasn't another idea. I heard Cathito
and Rich They were talking about players who feel like
retired too early in their careers. You know, I always

(31:16):
think about Barry Sanders is the obvious, right think about
I don't know why. Patrick Willis is always a guy
that pops to my mind. But you're you're seeing it
a little bit. It's funny because you'll hear one guy
retire a little young, and I was like, oh my gosh,
everyone's gonna do this. No one does it for a
couple of years, and then all of a sudden, the

(31:38):
next guy retires a little bit younger than you think, like,
oh my, gotch all these football guys are gonna retire
too early, and then no one does it for a
couple of years. You would have thought that would have
happened though, because of the They make a lot more
money now, so we stick around for it. And now
that we know the effects of on your body and
on your mind playing football too long. Um, if you're

(31:59):
not a quarterback, I thought people we retire earlier. Also, Yeah,
well here and there, I think you'll see a few
sprinkled in. But I'm not ready to say, oh my gosh,
football has a problem. Too many guys are retiring too soon.
But it does open up a hell of a conversation
to think about those guys. I still I still up
until like about ten years ago, I thought, man, if
Barry Sanders comes back, I'd love to see that, And

(32:21):
then you realize that he's he's done, so done. All right,
good stuff to say. We've got a lot to get to,
including as soon as the Lakers game is over, Chris
McGee Getter McGee's canna join us. I don't know if
there'll be anything good to talk about, but we'll do
that coming up in our number three here on the show,
and Artie, I gotta give you credit every single show,

(32:43):
every single time we do a show together, even if
it's um a two hour shot. I have we ever
filled in on a two hour show before. Hypothetically He'll
always send his yellow note pad of topics, and you
had one topic on here that I'm absolutely fascinated by.
That I think is going to take over the sports
world tomorrow and we'll dive into it next on Fox

(33:05):
Sports Radio. I can't believe what we're watching right now.
It's horrible, you know, I'm not. I was kidding around
then saying I should call Jennie Buzz. But you know,
if Jennie was smart, she would call because she's a
very loyal person. She should call, you know, people that
we went to high school, Steve Kerr and stuff like that,

(33:26):
and and talk to you know, talk to him about
what's going on. Why would Steve Kerr want the Lakers
to be good long Well, they're long time friends. That's
that's the thing. They're long time friends. Called chipping when
who's the shooting coach and on Popovich's staff. He went
to high school with his song song you know, we
went to the high school for the for the famous.
You know that, I know, yeah, I'm very well aware.

(33:47):
That's why. I mean, look what's happened in my life
since I've started working with you. It's just been a
straight rocket ship to the top. Now the Lakers are
getting just absolutely positively embarrassed and overs were not even
in the fourth quarter. Yet they're down seven well hold
on twenty seven points at home to a really bad

(34:08):
New Orleans Pelicans team. Uh so this will be talked
about quite a bit, But Arnie, I don't know if
things could have gone much better in the first two
games for James harden As of Philadelphia seventies. Not only
did he mess around and get a triple double today
with twenty nine points, sixteen assists, and ten rebounds, but

(34:32):
it looks as if, you know, Tobias Harris playing a
little bit better. I think it's helped out Maxi's game
quite a bit, though I don't know how much help
he needed. Um, but it's really I mean, Joel Embat,
holy smokes man, he got to the free throw line
twenties seven times today. The Philadelphia seventies sixers shot what
was the total number forty four free throws Now, first

(34:55):
of all, I don't think in any NBA game there
should be eighty free throw shot UM. But the New
York Knicks attempted thirty five. The Philadelphi seventy Sixers attempted
forty four UM quick math, and that is what seventy
nine free throws that were attempted in this game, Arenie.

(35:16):
That is just ridiculous. Still though, still though, the bottom
line here sixers too. And oh, since James Harden started playing,
and it looks like it's clicking pretty well early. Who
would have thought that the Sixers could beat the Nixon Minnesota.
Oh boy, I gotta get about the victory. I well,
look it is and they do look fantastic. And it's

(35:38):
it's not just the victory over the Nixon Minnesota. It's
how they did it. It's how Joe Embiat is happy
and putting thirty seven points on the board today. It
was just absolutely incredible, hardened as you mentioned, nine um
even with the almost done. Yeah, the ten rebounds in
sixteen and says the guy has just been tremendous. I
just can't wait to see how the nets are gonna

(36:00):
um with Simmons. I thought that they were going to
get the better of the trade. I don't know if
you can play that much better than what Philadelphia is
doing right now with Harden. Kind of crazy too, because
again it's early and this they could still crater, right.
I mean, it's we can't lose our minds too much
and you you hit it on the head. It was
the Timberwolves and it was the Knicks. But that's not

(36:22):
gonna stop us, the Royal we from losing our minds
about this after two games. There's not gonna be a
restrictor plate put on this by people in the meeting
to say, all right, everybody calmed down a little bit.
It's only two games. One of my friends I played with,
one of my friends on my basketball team is a
Sixer fan. And that's all I got. I mean, for
the last week, that's all I get to hear about

(36:43):
how great this the Sixers are gonna be. It's it's nauseating,
it's disgusting. Was was this the guy that tried to
punch you in the face or no? No, no, he
thought he's on my team. Another guy got punched in
the face on our team, sucker punch. Ah Okay, I
was gonna jump in, but the guy that threw the
punch was like, six, No, you weren't gonna jump in, Arnie,
You and no reason to jump in, teammate. It's rec league.

(37:07):
You're not a team. You got picked to play the game.
What are you doing? This isn't This isn't like my
fraternity C League team, the Stigma cheese out there trying
to play. No, no, you gotta protect yourself group. So
I mean, I can't again two games in, though, Artie,

(37:28):
I do do we start ap plotting Darryl Morey in
this move or do we we still have to see
how things work for Ben Simmons and adding Seth Curry
to the Brooklyn Nets as well. Now, um, did I
just say the Brooklyn Okay, you threw me off when
you said New Jersey Nets the other night. But but
but here's the thing. I go back to what Danny
Green had to say, and and again, well we'll get

(37:49):
into this if if Chris mckeestill wants to join us
after whatever this is the Lakers are doing tonight. But
I can't help but wonder what what the side of
fact of this is gonna be with the guys who
went with Ben Simmons to Brooklyn because the way Danny
Green made it sound, they didn't like him too terribly much.

(38:10):
So I can't. I can't help, But wonder, okay, is
that gonna be problematic? Is that gonna be something that's
gonna make it hard for the guys that went with
Ben Simmons to Philadelphia Again? Ben Simmons still has yet
to suit up, but I mean, Seth Seth Curry looked
pretty damn good and that went over the box. He
had nineteen points. He was six of eleven from the floor.
So I can't. I can't help, but wonder already of

(38:32):
you know, maybe a lot of how this trade is
gonna work for the sixers Also, is is pinning at
least the visual of it, right, the aesthetics kind of
the way we judge it. Because if Ben Simmons goes
and clicks in the with the nets with with Kevin
Durant and Kyrie Irving, that's a completely different conversation, right, Oh, absolutely,
And I still think it's going to and um, I

(38:53):
think that Brooklyn is gonna go ahead and emerge and
and just pick it up. Now we'll see if they're
able to. And um, Kyrie look good with the third
plus points the other day. By the way, in my
prediction segment, I don't know if I can wait until
the end of the show to give this, but um,
I don't know. If you know this, Lakers are gonna
be looking for a new head coach tomorrow. Oh you
think vocals Andre Drummond look pretty good the other night too.

(39:14):
I keep forgetting him in this trade. Oh you think
Vogels out after tonight? Yeah, goodbye, goodbye. If they have.
If they haven't done it by now and the Lakers
continue on this trend, tolicans will do it that. Why're
down with twenty three seconds left in the third quarter? Yeah,
probably not the best indicator that things are going well.

(39:36):
And listen, I'm oh my gosh. Their defense is just terrible.
It's a procious They've always given up a hundred points
through three quarters there, down by thirty. It's their turnovers
are It's It's crazy. David Fizdill, they turn it over again.
David Fizdale new head basketball coach of the Los Angeles

(39:57):
Lakers after Frank Vogel fired after this game tonight. Hell,
we might have breaking news before we get out of here.
This take my co down before we get out of
here alright, our one of the books when we come
back in our too. We've got some NFL that we
need to get to. We've got some tweets. Twitter has
been fantastic so far, plus Todd Fermant coming up next.
It's Arnie and Plank not going well. Not I turned it.

(40:27):
Does that make me a bad person? Yeah? I mean,
Danny g are watching it is like marriage for better
or for worse. I don't know, dude. I I just okay.
Then I'm in a fight with my wife and I
went in the other room and put in my AirPods.
And don't worry. Lebron's gonna start jacking up some threes

(40:48):
from half court. He's gonna build the stats. So he's
got to do that. They've got to score more points
in this quarter to just tie the game than they've
scored in a single quarter this whole game. So I
don't think it's happening, you know. Um Chris McKee slated
to join us whenever the prost postgame show wraps up
on Lakers TV. But Arnie, I think I'm buying one

(41:08):
of your theories. I think we're seeing the last night
of Frank Vogel as it go to the Lakers. I
know someone say this is embarrassing, like, for instance, let's
just read the last few tweets uh Emmett armand the
blind Seahawks fans tweets. Addison said, the Lakers are so horrible.
I think Arnie could beat them by himself. This is terrible.

(41:30):
On that one, Fern rights Lakers losing, Big Lebron crying
because they touched his lip. He couldn't play in the
eighties or nineties drama queen. How can people pay to
see that garbage? Something to do, I guess, and good
money too. Though it was cheaper than it was when
it first started the season, you got to think it's

(41:52):
a little cheaper now. Our man at m L Times
rights the Lakers game is the perfect example of why
the NFL is untouched. And one more from nature boy
who's been on fire tonight. Now, one of the Lakers,
DeAndre Jordan's just threw a pass to the row. Yeah
did you see that one? Oh? Did I see it?

(42:14):
Not only did I see it, but I love I
like DeAndre Jordan. Okay, I think DeAndre Jordan's gonna be
a guy that when his playing career has done, even
though he's made a hundred and ninety bazillion dollars. I
think he could be one of our guys here on
Fox Sports Radio or an analyst. I think he's really good.
But DeAndre, you don't have to point at yourself. We
know what was your bad. Dude. You ever playing the

(42:35):
gym and sometimes you throw a pass and it hits
like the rafters. But you're playing a low ceiling gym
that I thought it was gonna hit the rafters. I
thought it was gonna go up and hit like one
of the you know, the championship batters. It was so high.
It was ridiculous. That ridiculous. My bad, My bad? Yeah, yeah,
we know, DeAndre, we know what you're bad. You just
threw it like fifty rows up. It's you're bad. This

(42:57):
is not good. Um, what will We'll try to make
sense of it as the show goals on tonight. But
a little bit of a thumbs down from Lakers fans
in this evening how it's you know, it's really bad
that you're losing this because, um, the Pelicans, the subs
aren't even celebrating. They're just sitting there like whatever. You know,
It's like no big deal that the crushing the Lakers

(43:17):
like this on the road. All right, Well, you want
to hit a few tweets, then you want to you
want to hit. Since I've kind of started there, Todd
Firman is coming up here in just a bit. Um.
There's a lot of really good NFL topics. Listen. I
told Arnie prepare in the final hour. I have three
overtime theories that I'll pose in front of you because

(43:38):
the What Competition Committee is meeting and in the National
Football League there's talks of an adjustment to overtime. Keep
it simple, stupid, don't make it too crazy. I I
pretty much know the way I want to go. But
I'll listen to all three of your your theories there,
Listen up, I got a few for you. Keep it simple,
you don't that's what they say, I don't. You know

(44:00):
what I would say, experiment in the preseason, but no
games going over time in the preseason. So we'll have
some theories. Will post coming up here in just a bit.
In the meantime, UH Pete rights every show for the
last whatever years we've done this, Arnie's tweet always says,
where should we start? When the man has put together
pages upon pages of prep knowing what he wants to

(44:23):
start right, but yet and then Pete writes, I like
this from Pete. Pete rights, how about how teams won
through seven lost last night? No one cares about the
NBA when nobody cares that one through six loss last night.
It was just that it was a you know, like
a score gami thing. Oh it was night you went
through six and I think number nine. So and it

(44:44):
was topped off by Arizona loosing a night and Gonzaga
losing a knight to St. Mary's. So you know that's
all we got. Sorry. I tried, Pete, I tried to
bring it up, but you know what, it really it
really doesn't make a difference. It isn't like Zaga is
gonna fall down the number seven. I feel it still
the look, you're still gonna find it out. For number one,
it's just one game. Everybody's still trying to go ahead

(45:05):
except for Gonzager to finish out the conference. Arizona still
has three pack twelve games left. Then they're gonna play
in the Pac twelve tournament. I mean, there's so much
basketball this was. I mean, do you think this one
game is gonna have effect on any of those teams.
Are they're all out, they're all done, it's finished. No.
I just think for a sport that in every sport

(45:28):
outside of football, you kind of feel like it's trying
to find a way to capture our attention. You and
I fought a bit on Friday night because you thought, man,
when Ben Simmons returns to Philly, everyone's gonna be all over,
And I'm like, I don't think so. I don't think
anyone cares about a regular season NBA game, but for
the shake of trying to get the sport back above water,

(45:49):
where you can get fans that usually would watch the
NBA but have drifted away from it. Okay, maybe we
got something there for college basketball. I mean they're fighting
for space like crazy, right, especially in the pre march conversations.
Now you have a night when madness like that happens.
I think it gained some attention. I think people like, oh,

(46:10):
I just thought you know it was very top heavy. Well,
not only did your top three, top two get beat,
they got smoked. I mean Arizona got smoked, they got destroyed,
they got throttled. Already ARIZONI heard and you what interesting
is that Arizona lost by sixteen. The last time a
one or two second ranked team lost by sixteen or

(46:34):
more to an unranked team on the title or something,
who was when Virginia lost to U NBC. But but
get this, I mean Kinsacka got beat by ten last night.
Um you had Tennessee went at home over Auburn, Michigan
State beats per Due. Listen, Baylor beats Kansas, but Baylor

(46:55):
is the tin ranked team in the country. You're the
first person. You know. What's so funny is everybody kept
saying went through six loss, one through six loss, But
you're the first person I said, look at the teams
that lost and break down the games that everybody just
wanted to talk about the fact that one through six
laws they really wasn't so much about the teams. Well,
but not only did to me. Here's what I think, Arnie.

(47:16):
I think it generates a little interest because it gives
the I guess you could say the Lord that it's
opened up right. It's not just either a Gonzaga or
a Duke or last year was gonzag and Baylor. I mean,
it wasn't just one through six. The ninth ranked team
in the country went on the road and lost last night, right,

(47:36):
I mean you you had all kinds of craziness that
took place. So I'm I was trying to sell college
basketball to a friend of mine the other day. It's like, oh,
I don't care about college basketball anymore. I'll pay attention
when the tournament comes around. It's fine, don't care. We
don't talk about it a ton on this show. We
got our college basketball guys like gott Leeb and Aaron Torres,

(47:56):
but even they, I mean, they don't spend a ton
of time on it, right. I mean when four years
doing a show Saturday night where Torres doing time, we
really got into college basketball was March Madness or when
Arizona plays that night. But that that's a to me.
I think it's a fascinating story from last night. In
doing anything they can, college basketball did generate interest, get

(48:17):
a few upsets. Let's go um. No, I'm just sorry
where you can actually tie that into college sports because
I sent an article about how um college football's attendance
was what was way down the worst is like, uh
what they say like ten years or something like just
absolutely horrific. Well for the library. I couldn't figure out

(48:37):
why it's that. I can't. We're in the middle of
a damn pandemic. Will you people stop with these attendance
put I'll push back on that like crazy and what
they've been saying for like ten years. It's been, it's been.
It's been an issue. It's been an issue since the
dawn of time. To be honest with you, UM, with
the way that sports is being covered on TV, with

(49:00):
the way that it's hard, it's it's hard to go
to a sporting event. It is. I mean, you've gotta
you've got to be committed to waiting in line, waiting
to go to the bathroom, waiting to park, paying for
all of it. But it sucks. But you have a
built in crowd that really doesn't have to deal with that,
and that's the students. They live on campus. They don't

(49:21):
have to worry about driving, um or any of that stuff.
You know, they could just walk to most of the time,
they could just walk to the game. So you gotta
build like Alabama's do you have a built in crowd
that could do stuff like that. You know, the thing
that pisces me off about students is this I want
to be that young again. Let me be that young again.
Here's what angers me is. And and again I was

(49:43):
trying to get to Twitter. But if you want to
go down this road, let's go. Youth has wasted on
the young. Go ahead. Tell me. Here's the thing is.
And I see this a lot. They're done after halftime, Student,
They're just done. If it's not a compelling rivalry game.
Alabama had this problem. If it's if it's not your
biggest drive was like, oh we went for half an

(50:04):
alas go get hammered, right, and it's just there. They
might be so that that's my biggest frustration with students.
And I get it. It's still costs, right, not not
every student ticket is free, But I don't know some
people on a point while everyone's on their phone, okay,
well everyone at the game is on their phone. I

(50:24):
mean it's not just students. I mean you've got boomers
that are on their phone. You've got Gen xers like
me that are on their phone. It's not just students
that are addicted to their phone. We it's it's a challenge, Artie.
It's been a challenge for a while too. I can
remember whenever I first I guess you could say started
working in college athletics, that was a big thing. How

(50:45):
can we make every event when you come to a
sporting event, if it's Arizona, it's u c. L A,
if it's Oklahoma, wherever it is, How can I make
that something that you want to experience again? What can
I always joke about the car salesman, what's it gonna
take to get you in this car today? Well? You
want that Disney experience, right? You want someone to have

(51:05):
something that is so magical for them every time they
go to a game. They just can't get enough of
it and they want to keep coming back. And the
unfortunate reality is Artie span Your Chris Plank, John Romo's,
Danny g Steve Disager. I don't know who's all in
editing tonight. Ben Mallon will always want to go to
games because what we're sports fans and we love the games.
The games aren't just enough for people anymore. They need

(51:28):
to be entertained around the game when there's a time out,
they need something to make them laugh. I mean, there's
got to be a show around a game anymore. And
it's tough, Artie. It's been tough for a decade. This
isn't breaking news in the college sports world, and it
seems to me kind of week to go. I'm gonna
write this article now when we're a year and a
half removed from a pandemic, when nobody was in the stadium,

(51:51):
and we still have mask mandates like crazy around the country.
It's just it's a process. Over the side. I always
thought that college football was the experience, you know what,
you always you went for the tailgating and stuff like that.
I mean, worldse you know, tailgate for the NBA games
or most part Major League Baseball, anything like that. Can

(52:12):
I push back on that real quick? Where's the tail
getting take place outside the game? What can sometimes be
more fun than going in the game? Staying outside? Eight
outside it's your tail game? What what might you want
to do as soon as the game it's like it's
twenty ones up in the first quarter, you want to
go out and hit a couple of fireballs and sit

(52:33):
around and watch other games. I just that's what it is.
I mean, it's it's tough, man, and there's no easy
magical fix. Now there's plenty of people, but it's it's
an investment to go to to any sporting that. I
don't mean to get on a bully pulpit with this,
but it's just it seems kind of convenient to look
at numbers and say man attendance is really down. Well,

(52:55):
administrators and eighties have been fighting for crowds for years,
A year and a half removed from a pandemic, when
there's still people working from home, and I just had
to wear a mask all damn day on an airplane.
I mean, I just I don't know why that article
is being written. I don't know. I don't know why
you said fireballs. That was that your drinking choice back
then or what? Back then? I had one before the
show started. All right, that's a joke. Ramos Keaton writes, Artie,

(53:20):
are you getting ready for the Dolphins to get Russell,
Wilson and Cook? Are you being rumored the Dolphins is
a spot for Russ? Yeah, I don't. I don't know
anything about that. I actually don't even want that to happen. Um,
I'm okay with two of coming in other than Russell
in my I was gonna say other than Aaron Rodgers.

(53:42):
I don't think there's a quarterback. I want to go ahead,
and replace two that that's that's legitimately that could happen.
I mean, sure there's quarterbacks. I love that. Mome's not
gonna happen though, But of the quarterbacks that are available
other than Rogers, I'm okay, we even Russell Wilson Um.
Forget about that. I'll just go with to it and
see what happens. Wow. Okay, And I remind you that

(54:04):
you've tried to cut him like five times already. Yeah,
but I've always kissed it, made up with him. So
I'm gonna be pro tour this year. Look how long?
What's what's he over? Under three games? Danny? The first half? Yea,
first half of the first the first half of the
first game. Uh, and then just one more Steve baumb
Gardner rights, Arnie, I think you should start the car

(54:24):
with your start the show with your admiration of Ben Maller.
You're the setup man for the closer that brings the
heat Ghost sooners, that whole Mallard militia. I may have
to fill in one time for Ben Maller and just
kind of jump on, you know, jump on the Mallar militian,
drive them crazy, put them all back in their places that, alright,
keep the tweets coming. At Stinking Genius One. I'm at

(54:46):
Plank showing everybody should be following us at Fox Sports Radio.
But when we come back, our buddy Todd Ferman joins
us from Vegas next on Fox Sports Radio sny A,
Fox Sports Radio. I saw buddy George Rice stir just
throughout a tweet, and it's actually a pretty good point.

(55:08):
The Lakers game is well out of hand, but Lebron
James has thirty two points, He's thirteen of twenty three
from the floor, six boards, but he does have seven turnovers.
Russell Westbrook with seven turnovers as well. Lebron smooth. Skip
Bayless put out on Twitter just out that Lebron is

(55:29):
just in the game. The pattes stats I said that,
like about twenty minutes ago, he's he's listening to you.
He's stealing all your takes. Russell Russell Westbrook is smooth
minus twenty six. Lebron James a smooth minus twenty two.
Could I be worse if I played? If I was
minus twenty six? Is gonna be worse or not? It

(55:50):
could be much worse. I don't know. Could you pull
me at minus twenty five, then okay, you could get
pulled in minus twenty five and workout. Todd Firman joined
the Bet the Board podcast. You catch him on the
out kick dot Com. Always always great information whenever it comes,
and not only the spreads, but sports period. So, Todd,
what do we make of this mess in l A

(56:11):
right now? Are we seeing Frank Vogel's last night as
Lakers coach? I mean I thought it was going to
be a formality weeks ago when Lakers elected not to
do anything at the trade deadline. That was more or
less a version of waving the white flag. And for
those folks who are at all surprised by I don't
think any of us believed it was going to turn
into this unmitigated disaster. But at the same time, the

(56:32):
addition of Russell Westbrook was never going to be the
perfect fit. The Lakers needed guys that can help space
the floor and make jump shots from the outside. Injuries
have created problems, and we're now seeing a situation that
I think is past the point of no return. You
know what's funny, Todd? Before the game, I was talking
to my wife Ago, I really like the Lakers tonight
minus one and a half. That seems like a steel

(56:52):
to me. I don't know why that spreads not more.
I really liked them tonight about that. Uh. You know,
that's one of the challenges when you look at the
Lakers in the way they've been priced at their best
even without Anthony Davis. It's a team that's capable of
competing with anybody, but you just don't know on a
night and night out basis, they're going to bring that
seam level of energy, And unfortunately for the Lakers, because

(57:13):
of the colors they wear and the name it says
in the front of their jersey, regardless of their competition,
they're always going to get everyone's best shot. Brnging out
with Todd Firm and that Todd Firm and on Twitter.
All right, let's shift our focus from the disaster that
that is the Lakers to what seems to be a
positive start in the James Harden Air in Philadelphia. Todd,
in your opinion, is this kind of changed in any

(57:34):
perspectives you have on the Eastern Conference Finals, or maybe
maybe take a little bit of a future look at
the Philadelphia seventy six ers, or I don't know if
you're into the player prop world or not, but maybe
looking at some overs in certain categories, like I don't know,
assist for James Harden down the stretch, you know, it
definitely shifts, but all into power because, as we've seen
time and time again in the NBAD, you need to

(57:55):
start that you can lean on in crunch time to
win those civtal series that go the six to seven teams.
And when you look at Milwaukee, I still think they're
gonna be just fine when the playoffs start. It's a
team that's kind of used the eight two game regular
season or will as it glorified dress rehearsal in their
defense of the title. But both have been a great story.
But I don't think anyone believes they're legitimate contenders in

(58:15):
the Eastern ofference. I think Miami is a team that's
going to be a very difficult out, especially if they're
able to get contributions from Victor Oladipot. We've seen how
tenacious that team could be despite their PROPENSI you go
through scoring drafts and I think you know when you
look at Philadelphia, when James Harden gets top from the outside,
it forces teams to extend their defense and if reps
are gonna have quick whistles. It gives them that inside

(58:36):
outside combination that they desperately lack when teams could stag
off of Ben Simmons. And despite the shooting prowess of
the Seth curtain as Tobias Harris and some of the
other players, they're not nearly as Maamic when they're healthy,
as James Harden is with the basketball in his hands.
I'm gonna bet Philadelphia and Brooklyn are the rest of
the regular season. I think they're just gonna go ahead

(58:56):
and destroy the competition before they get to the playoffs,
especially if Simmons shows up like I think he's gonna do.
I think his numbers are going to go through the roof.
Playing with them, Well, Brooklyn's a fascinating story because you've
seen some books. They're on down. I think the highest
number I saw out there on the win the NBA
title was ten to one. And Kevin Durant is going
at his best and you have Kyrie Irving. They're assuming

(59:19):
that Ben Simmons is able to strengthen his back and
get himself in passable shape to at least twenty five
minutes before the playoffs start. We know we can be
a lockdown defender in the luxury he's afforded in this
Brooklyn nets offenses. They're not going to look to him
the score. He can be a defender, they can use
his length, Maybe he can be a penetrator. And we'll
see if he's got a fresh outlook wearing a new jersey.

(59:39):
So I don't think anybody has any qualms about making
a case through Brooklyn coming out of the East, and
maybe that creates a heck of a lot more drama
because you can make a legitimate case for four or
five teams if they get hot to come out of
the eastern half of the job. All right, Todd, I'm
I'm breaking a sports radio rule because we're an hour
and a half into this show tonight and there's a

(01:00:00):
topic we haven't touched on that everyone else would have
at least three times by now that's Aaron Rodgers. So
with that in mind, you'll get the first word on
Fox Sports Radio tonight for hours show Do we get
a decision? This week? March sixteenth is looming. Um there,
there's already been a couple of different rumors out there

(01:00:21):
about what could happen. What do you think do we
get some Aaron Rodgers news in the coming week. You know,
I don't think we get Aaron Rodgers news in the
coming week. I think he's gonna do everything you can
and nurse this news site go. It seems like everyday
an NFL insider talks about Green Bay and the personnel
moves they're making to try and carve out a little
bit more cap space. So fascinating when you try and

(01:00:41):
figure out when you look at negotiations, is a form
of poker at the highest stakes variety? You know, does
it benefit Aaron Rodgers the leak the story that he
wants to be fifty million dollar your player? Where they
benefit the green Bay Packers when they then have to
justify to their fan base. Hey, look, Aaron wanted this.
It was going to cripple us going forward, and that
the reason that we couldn't pay him. So I think

(01:01:02):
it's going to be extremely interesting because the one question
that Green Bay obviously has to figure out Baron Rodgers
is think going to be there? Do you bother franchise
tagging Davante Adams? Do you look around to try and
go We're going to go through a whole rebuild mode
and it's going to obviously focus on Jordan Look, hoping
that he is the heir apparent who Brett Farve handing
the baton to Aaron and then hopefully the next great

(01:01:22):
Green Bay Packers starting quarterback. All Right, Todd, you can
thank me later on this. I'm gonna make you millions
of dollars. I got a new theory, so you can
thank me later on. Would n be when Major Baseball,
When Major Baseball's decides they're gonna start canceling games, you're
run out and start betting all the long shots to
win the World Series are going to go to the
World Series. If it's like in eighty game season, long shots,

(01:01:46):
you're gonna have in some good money short season. Go
bet the long shot stuff like that. Well, I'm glad,
aren't You're trying to help me make a million back
because I lost a couple million the other day betting
Arizona on money like an extremely disappointing performance from your
beloved Wildcats. But actually, for all the ideas you've thrown
out over the year's arnty, this may actually be the

(01:02:08):
one that holds the most merit. The reason for that
is that the shorter the season is the better opportunity
for a long shot. They get hot, and we saw
it a couple of years ago with the Florida Marlins,
who had no prayer of making the playoffs if they
were going through a hundred fifty two game run over
the shorter condensed season. You get hot and you put
together an eight and two run over the span of
ten games. Suddenly you're in the thickest things, and it's

(01:02:29):
part of the reason that you've actually seen some money
come in. I'll be a small best special betters on
a team like the Baltimore Orioles to win the American
League East at a hundred fifty one. Who were some
astronomical prices that are out there because as the season
continues to get condensed, it creates opportunities for those inferior teams.
We see it every April with May. Bad teams don't
realize they're bad until over the course of a longer season,

(01:02:53):
attrition starts stake cold. They just don't have the depth.
But if you're talking about a sixty year, eight game
regular season and I'm hoping we'd get at least hundred
forty four, there's real possibility that is Cinderellic can definitely emerge. Yeah,
this is why Vegas bands mean. This is why I'm
banned from Vegas band h Todd, I know you're busy.
We always appreciate artis wife bands aread from Vegas who

(01:03:16):
more than happily roll out the red carpet and welcome
in him in town to play it as many one
than three dollar black black tables as we could offer up.
I gotta find those three dollar black jack tables, right, Todd,
You're awesome, buddy, have a great weekend. Alright, guess sorry,
sorry to the week We'll talk to you next Sunday night. Man,
it's like thinking weekend and I'm so used to us

(01:03:37):
doing that Friday show. My mind is doll disc. I
gotta go out to Vegas. I missed my tie. I
was supposed to go out in the in January. I
missed it. I'm gonna have to go out in the summer.
When we come back, Arnie and I are going to
dive into your tweets, which are really good. But first
Steve to Seger comes rolling in to get us caught
up on everything, including a thankful final Yeah it's over,

(01:03:57):
thank you hour ago. Yeah, uh well, and the season
more than an hour ago. New Orleans beat the Lakers
in l A one three to The Lakers from three
point range were seven for thirty four. They had as
far as the turnover department in the first quarter nine
turnovers to go with eight baskets in the first more

(01:04:20):
turnovers than few goals made in the first quarter. It
was sixteen turnovers for the Lakers in the first half
twenty three turnovers. In the game. Lebron James had thirty
two points and seven turnovers, Russell Westbrook with sixteen points
and seven turnovers. The Lakers fall to twenty seven and
thirty three on the season, and this is notable for

(01:04:41):
New Orleans. Their season is not over now. They had
lost four or five until this weekend. They just wanted
Phoenix on Friday night double double digits. They won easily
by double digits tonight against the Lakers, and they'll play
Sacramento on Wednesday. Tonight, New Orleans moved into the ten
seed in the Western Conference, notable because this new playoff
format that started this year, Seed seven through ten are

(01:05:04):
in that play in many tournament. The New Orleans Pelicans
have a chance at the postseason, and at the moment
they're only two and a half back of the Lakers
for the nine seed, having just beaten them head to
head here going going into the weekend, we're thinking at
that playing game could be Lakers versus Clippers, you know,
and the Clippers, who have had no identifiable roster this

(01:05:27):
year nationally, well, they're over the five D mark now.
The Clippers are the eight seed Lakers nine New Orleans
ten Wow Clippers in fact one at Houston tonight. The
Rockets have lost nine games in a row Detroit one
in overtime at the Buzzer, at Charlotte Dallas was down
twenty one and the third quarter, and still one at
Golden State Denver one at six in a row, a

(01:05:47):
victory at Portland, Indiana and Philly got wins, and Utah
one at Phoenix one eighteen to one. Four team in
college hoops number four teen rank Houston beat s m
U S Houston Lee s m U in the American
Conference by two games just one week left in the
regular season. For college hoops, Fifteenth ranked Illinois shot seventy

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one from the floor in the first half wound up
winning nine eighty five at Michigan. The Michigan Wolverines are
just fifteen and twelve this season. Meanwhile, twenty second ranked
Ohio State lost at Maryland seventy five sixty. Maryland was
five and twelve and Nebraska was one in sixteen in
conference play but one tonight at Penn State ninety three

(01:06:29):
to seventy. Yukon one at Georgetown. In case you're unfamiliar,
Patrick Ewing is theoretically still the Georgetown Hoyas coach, as
well as one of the great players of all time.
Georgetown is o and seventeen in the this year, and
they play in an NBA arena in d C twenty
thousand seats. Attendance was seven thousand today. Yukon ranked twenty

(01:06:50):
one one at Georgetown eight s seventy seven. Fact, Connecticut
lad with under three minutes to go eight one fifty nine,
so don't let the final score fool you. And one
note from women's basketball number four Louisville lad forty one
to three in the first half and wound up winning
at Notre Dame sixty four. Notre Dame, which has a
good women's program, was losing at home forty one to

(01:07:12):
three today to Louisville. Kyle Larson took the NASCAR race
in southern California, and Major League Baseball's labor talks with
the players union will continue tomorrow. They met every day
this past week. Negotiations are in Florida. MLB still says
a deal must be done by tomorrow night to ensure
that opening Day will take place as scheduled March thirty one.
The players want any of the earlier missed regular season

(01:07:36):
games to be made up so soon in the length
of this year's season will be another dispute. They can't
come together on. Baseball's exhibition games are canceled through at
least March seventh. Already, this lockout started early December. We
know the d H is coming to both leagues. We
know there will be a draft lottery in MLB. It
will involve apparently the bottom six teams. The union wants

(01:07:56):
to involve more to combat tanking. So they have some
movement on some issues, but there are big issues that
they have not agreed on. So tomorrow is gonna pass
without an agreement. It does seem back to you, Thanks Steve.
All right, I want to get one note as we
roll on here on Fox Sports Radio, kind of a
carry over from Friday Night Show and for Laker fans.
We're gonna talk to Chris Keeter McGhee coming up in

(01:08:18):
our final hour or when he wraps up with his
post game show to try to figure out where the
Lakers go from here. And obviously what happens to Frank
Vogel is that a switch that could help change things.
We'll talk to Chris later on in the show. But
you and I have been all over this broadcasters getting
paid story right, And the question is, I mean, does

(01:08:40):
it really make that big of a difference from a
game perspective? Are you watching? Does your draw more people
in or is it just about kind of adding to
the field of the game. The big rumor is Joe
Bock now on his way to ESPN. But breaking new tonight,
we're Amazon was swinging for the fences right to go

(01:09:01):
get Al Michaels and it looks like they're going to
for their Thursday Night package. And again, if if you're
not familiar, Amazon has ponied up the Thursday night football
game is exclusively on Amazon, so no simulcast anymore with
the NFL network. It's on Amazon and they're trying to
build up in a big way already after missing out

(01:09:22):
on Troy Aikman, who's apparently going to ESPN with Joe Back.
According to reports, Kirk herb Street could be the next
target for Amazon. Would come in and call theirs their
football games on Thursday night. What do you think I like, Herbie,
I I first of all, Um, it would be a
good hire. Again, this is a separate of the money aside, right, Chris,

(01:09:45):
We're we're not talking about the millions and millions or
making out there. I think it'd be a great higher
by Amazon to go after him, especially when you're just
getting your feet wet in the in the shadow win
with professional football, UM, and you want to familiar face,
so you go after al Michaels and Kirker shoots like.
I think that'd be a good hire. If you're asking
me do they deserve? Was any money? Um leaked out too?

(01:10:05):
This is a million, twenty million. I don't even know
what what's good money anymore, but if it's for that
type of money, I'll I'll say it again, Um, I
don't think you tune in for the announcers. You're going
to watch the game because you have an interest in
the game. There's no way you're saying, you know what.
I'm not watching the Packers and the Cowboys, um, because

(01:10:27):
I don't like the announcers. That's just ridiculous. You're watching
the game. So it's a lot of money being thrown
out there. CDs and ESPN will pay Tony Romo and
Troy Aikman more than Cooper Cups, Stefon Diggs, Keenan Allen
and Mike Evans will make Ino. Wow. That's wild, that's why. Wow.

(01:10:48):
I mean again, you're worth whatever anyone wants to pay you, right, well,
not worth that well, yeah they are because someone wants
to pay him. But it's just fascinating to me because
I'll never I'll never and I love it. I love it.
Go get paid men, But it just doesn't make a
lot of sense to me. Aren'tie? Um you want need
a few tweets? Stink Genius want at Plank Show. It's

(01:11:09):
Arenie and Plank Fox Sports Sunday at Stinking Genius Wanted
Plank Show. Here we go, U nature boy Rights. The
Lakers must be on their phones tonight too, because they
can't seem to focus on defense at Mallard prop Rights
and as atrocious as the Lakers have played at times
this season, somehow they're still in position to make the

(01:11:30):
playoffs at this time. However, at six games under five hundred,
do you think that this is a proposed statistically as
a symbolism for how buried the Lakers are. He sent
us a gift of a basketball that's being buried at
Crypto Arena. Yeah, they might not even make the playoffs.

(01:11:51):
We'll see what Portland and San Antonio is gonna be
doing down the stretch. I mean, both teams are been
playing right around five hundred in the last ten games,
so we will see what happens. But the Lakers have
a tough schedule. I said they were gonna go to
and eight their next ten, and they're on their well wait, well,
uh toward that right now. Mr Chicken Rights, I think
as to the Ben Mallard conversation we had where Arnie's

(01:12:11):
afraid to fill in because of the Mallar militia. Mr
Chicken Rights, I think Artie will pretend to be a
phony Mallard militia bandwagoner. He should do two weeks of
the Ben Mallard Show and been replaces Artie for a month. Yeah,
doing one show of Ben mall or it's like dog
years it's like doing seven shows, So doing two weeks

(01:12:32):
is actually doing like fourteen weeks. That's not going to happen.
I'm only times emergency going on and planks not around
and everybody else is not around, and they aroused me
out of bed. No thank you on that. I did
this Saturday night show a couple of weeks ago, and
I loved it and it was a blast and we
had a good time, but it took me a couple

(01:12:52):
of days to get that sleep pattern back. You're you're you're,
you're strong man. I I don't know. Ben doesn't Rocky
on the college attendance question that you brought up, Rocky
rights another reason not to go to a game. You
can't pay cash anymore. Who wants to order fourteen beers
and pull out a debit card every time? Ridiculous? That's

(01:13:14):
fair enough. Uh, And then my man um hog wild
rights guys see Razorbacks, sports football, basketball, baseball, etcetera. He's right,
he's right, but Arkansas is still not selling out football games, right.
I mean, it's when when you look at the capacity
of some of these places, it's hard. You're talking seventy

(01:13:34):
five thousand on a thousand people Yeah, if you're saying
they're not filling them to the brim, then sure it's tough,
but you want to create a good atmosphere. I mean,
you're only talking about what is it usually six seven
home games in Alabama's case with home games UM, and
and you know, is it that tough to fill up
the six or seven games UM when there's nothing else

(01:13:56):
really going on in the town like that? No, shouldn't be.
You're you're preaching at the choir on this, arn'tie. I
I don't know you. Like I said, you'll get twenty
thousand to thirty thousand just based on the students alone.
Throw another on the alumni, and then you haven't even
got to the fan jet. Well, when we come back,
let's uh, let's see if the Sager has an answer

(01:14:19):
on the intendance issues in college sports. Plus, I've got
three overtime theories. Will pose them all in front of
the crew coming up on Fox Sports Radio. Let's go, Steve.
The Sager joins us as he does throughout the show,

(01:14:40):
but this is his segment. Take it away, Steve, what's
on your mind? I noticed the l A Times headline
Lakers issues grow uglier in blue Field spectacle. Oh yeah, yes, yeah,
not just to the fourth quarter. I mean long before that.
Lakers lost by twenty eight at home to New Orleans Tonight,
Acres record seven and thirty three. And you were talking

(01:15:04):
about the college football attendance for FBS. The stat was,
it's nine years out of the last ten attendance has declined.
But Arkansas has one article put it is the outlier
because the sports you mentioned, football, basketball, baseball doing well
and doing well in attendance certainly effect the football was
up like fourteen thousand fans this past year, one of

(01:15:24):
the top one of the top jumps in college football.
As for the NFL, the Competition Committee is going to
talk about possible changes to the overtime rule this week.
Since the rule change, the winner of the overtime coin
toss has won the game fifty three percent of the time.
That is, in regular season, it's not a big deal

(01:15:44):
statistically who wins the coin toss. In the playoffs, it's
an enormous deal because in postseason games the coin toss
winner has gone ten and one in overtimes. I heard
two different NFL reporters or read them today, they were
she's making the same point that if the coin toss
in a playoff game is not a big deal, how
come whoever wins the toss never says, oh, yeah, we'll

(01:16:07):
kick off. It's a big deal. You just can't. You
can't take the extra step and say, well, the Buffalo
Bills team was job because no, the Buffalo Bills had
the best defense and the defense was on the field
the whole overtime and didn't stop anybody that is part
of your team. You do have to, you know, it
would have been great for all of us to see

(01:16:27):
Josh Allen get the ball again. I think we all
agree on that. But the defense is part of your team.
It's anyway, it's an undeniable playoff fact that the coin
toss winner has an enormous advantage. And we talked about
the Bucks Pro Bowl guard retiring at the age of
twenty eight. Ali mar Pet reportedly had concerns about as hell.
Tampa Bay allowed the fewer sacks of any team this
past year, only twenty three, and they had the most

(01:16:49):
dropbacks to pass of any team this year, and their
offensive line might be a lot different than it was
these past couple of seasons, as well as the quarterbacks.
But engulf a guy named SEPs Straca took the Honda
Classic today. He's the first p g A winner from Austria.
This was his ninety five start on the tour. He
gets the w thank you. He earned over one point

(01:17:12):
four million dollars this weekend. Even a tie for ninth
place gets you about two hundred thousand dollars. So this
guy beat Shane Lowry by one stroke. Stracca was down
by five strokes entering the final round in Florida today.
So the guy comes into the week ranked a hundred
seventy six in the world, had never been higher than
a hundred nine on that list. And now a guy

(01:17:34):
who played his college golf at Georgia is going to
the Masters in Georgia in April. Quite a story and
by the way, one point four million dollars a little silly. Well,
needless to say, things have been going on in the
real world, not just the sports world. And I noticed
this article ESPN tonight that several w NBA players currently

(01:17:55):
competing in Russia are making plans to leave that country
as a safety per car Ushian after that country's invasion
of Ukraine. It's not a secret that most of the
w NBA players compete overseas in the winter months. W
NBA season doesn't start till May. There are several league
standouts in Russia, and quote agents asked that their clients
who are in Russia not be identified at this point

(01:18:17):
for safety reasons. Also a movement this weekend that Formula
one said there will be no Russian Grand Prix this year.
European soccer, the Champions League final was due to be
in St. Petersburg, Russia, end of May. They have moved
that to Paris instead. Now FIFA, which runs World Soccer,
has said we're not immediately expelling Russia from World Cup

(01:18:39):
qualifying this year, but it remains an option. There's not
going to be a Russian flag or Russian anthem allowed,
as we've seen in the Olympics. But the thing is
a month from now there are playoff games. The final
few games to see who goes to the World Cup.
Russia is due to host Poland. Poland says we will
not play against them, and the winner of the game

(01:19:00):
is due to play the winner of Sweden and Czech Republic.
Those two countries both said this weekend we will not
play against Russia, even if you move it to a
neutral site, and England Soccer Association says for the foreseeable future,
we're not gonna have any of our national teams playing
against Russia either, and that's notable because the Women's euro
Championship this June is going to be hosted by England

(01:19:22):
and Russia has already qualified for that. So a lot
going on in the world. Still a lot going on
in the sports world in reaction to that. Good stuff.
Thanks ste all Right, when we come back, the NFL
Competition Committee is getting together to talk about overtime and
whether or not adjustments need to be made. Do we

(01:19:43):
need to have it set? We're both sides get a
chance to possess the football. I've got theories and I've
got plans, And when we come back for our final
hour here on Fox Sports Radio, I'll lay them out
in front of the guys. It's Arnie and Plank on
Fox Sports Radio. Stick. Wow, final hour already. Wow, Danny,

(01:20:07):
How are we feeling about Getter Chris McGee joining us tonight? Well,
we are watching him on one of our monitors here
in the studio, but he told me that he expects
to be off the set in about thirty minutes if
I said I wouldn't want to join us, right. Don't
blame him. Don't blame him. I don't blame him at all. Oh,

(01:20:29):
the Laker analysts, they look sick to their stuff is
the same as we sound. That's the look on their
faces right now on the TV. Just how could this
go this wrong? Genie buss are buddy U c l
a Dodger. Frank tweeted at is there's video of Genie
leaving in the third quarter. No ye, no third quarter,

(01:20:50):
get out of here. So there, I mean, Frank vocal
is not gonna get fired tonight or maybe in the
morning then, or maybe in the morning. Maybe it's one
of the first things we get in the morning. Um,
we got a lot to get to. We've talked about
a lot. There's some great tweets left at Stinking Genius One.
That's Arnie. I'm at Plank Show. Everybody hit us up
at Fox Sports Radio. John Romos is in with us tonight,
Danny g uh and Steven Seger all over the updates

(01:21:12):
and if any news breaks from Crypto dot com arena,
we'll bring it to you. I don't as much as
I thought watching that game, something was gonna happen tonight.
I don't know, Artie. I don't think they're gonna whack
Frank before Frank vote, before the end of the evening.
That's a pretty big sign. When the owner gets up,
it just walks out because they're disgusting at your your

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your play. That that speaks volumes. Agreed, agreed. But we'll
see what they decide to do. I don't I don't
know if changing a coach is gonna help him too much.
But let's go ahead and give David Fisdale an opportunity.
Why not. Hey, here's a here's some breaking news. It
can't get much worse than what it did to This
wasn't the Sixers or the Warriors. Why I put the

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Sixers in probably to a lead of a class. This
wasn't a one scene, okay. This wasn't going out there
and and getting beat by the box or what the
heat have been this year. This wasn't going out and
and and getting smoked by say Phoenix or Memphis or
the Bulls. This this was a Pelicans team that is

(01:22:18):
eleven games under five hundred and and and fighting with
you for the ninth spot in the playoffs. Arenie, It's
just flat out embarrassing and unacceptable. It is. It's on
the points they gave up, the turnovers, the lack of hustle,
their defense. Oh, it was just abysmal from like the
second quarter on. So Chris McGee geter sled it to

(01:22:38):
join us. What other big story in sports tonight that
we haven't talked about, Artie? Apparently NFL rule changes are coming.
So the competition committees meeting. Uh can I speak English?
The Competition committee is meeting at the Combine this week.
Then they'll also have the owners meeting in Palm Beach

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in late March. Now, Peter king warded it this way,
and I don't. I don't know if Peter is writing
at a level above my comprehensions, but I don't know
if this makes much sense to me. So I'm gonna
read it to you. One guarantee each team of possession
in all over time games, even if the team with

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the first o T possession scores a touchdown. Okay, Okay,
that makes sense. That's easy. Right. To guarantee each team
of possession in all games even if the team with
the first possession scores a touchdown. I don't. I mean,
I've yet to watch a game where another team doesn't

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have a possession in all games. I mean, is does
he mean maybe in the playoffs that I might because
that you're literally saying the same thing there, right, I
thought I thought it was the same thing. I'm not fined, okay,
So thank you, thank you. Then I feel a little
bit better about things right now, because Arnie, we've crowed

(01:24:00):
about it enough. We've cried about it enough, we've protested
about it enough. I think the NFL has heard it,
and they don't want a playoff game decided by a
coin toss? Right? And is that even though I know
some would be real quick to say, but in the
game the Bengals game against Kansas City, they lost the

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coin toss but still won the game fair enough, right, Uh?
And I think you had a number a while back,
right that it's it's not even like fifty fifty that
the team that wins the coin toss wins the game
on their first possession. It just seems in the most
high profile moments that's what happens, right, Uh, Chiefs Bills,

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Chiefs Patriots a couple of years ago. I don't know.
Is it just that it's happening more in the high profofile.
If you're gonna guarantee that both teams get the ball,
then the team that gets a second as a slight
advantage because they get to going forward on fourth down.
So you're always gonna say, now it's gonna change the
coin flipp. Instead, I'm saying we're gonna take the Now,
everybody's gonna say we're gonna kick on off. Now that's

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what's gonna happen. Now. Not too long ago, there wasn't
a lot of momentum that we would see overtime change.
But but when you think about how Kansas City and
Buffalo ended, even though the Bengals game that next week
was completely different, I think it reached the point, Arnie,
where they realized they change needed to happen. So let

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me give you a couple of scenarios. Series. These aren't
necessarily Chris Plank's theories, but I don't mind any of these.
The one you might have to explain a little bit
more to me. All Right, here's the first one, And
if any of the Danny g John Uh, Steve, if
any of these jumped out to you and you're like,
I really like that, feel free to jump in and
give your perspective. Here we go. The college football rule

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each team twenty five yard line right, two point conversions
after a touchdown after the second over, the tech team
is guaranteed a possession. I don't know if I have
to really dumb this down, but you get a possession
on the twenty five yard line if you score touchdown.
Other team master score touchdown. If you kick a field goal,
it's over. If the other team scores a touchdown, right,

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you're basically starting just outside of the red zone. In
college football, they have the rule we're on the second touchdown,
so second overtime. I guess I should say it's two
point conversion. I don't think you have to do that
in the NFL with the two point conversion, because you
come back the you've moved back the extra point to
where it's like the thirty five yard or so. We've

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seen some misses, so I don't think you have to
go for an Also in the NFL, guys, you should
not start a drive at pro kickers inside the forty
or money. You don't have to. You don't have to
get a first down and games over. So I like this.
Then we we've compromised here. The true College rule is
in the second if you get to the second overtime

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after touchdown, you need a two point conversion. Third overtime
is just alternating two point conversions, right, which is I
don't like that at all. Speed of the game safety
is what they claim. But would you be willing to
hear Arnie the college version if we eliminate needing to
go for two in the second overtime, No I, I
don't want to go ahead again. Now you're going ahead

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and having it set hanging up the offense. Um, No,
I still want to play the game. I just wanted
to let you know that I don't want to go
for the two point conversion. But no, I I still
want to play the game and give both teams a
shot at the uh shot at the ball. So I'm
I'm for the way it is. Right. Nonetheless, in the
regular season, there's a ten minute opening drive and the
other team doesn't touch the ball. Right, Yeah, but that's

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the regular season's right. But if some people, as you
mentioned earlier, one, whatever the rule is regular season, make
it the postseason. That's what we're gonna Well then, except
you're not gonna have a time constraint in the postseason.
So that's right, But I'm saying we'll still have ties,
and we'll still in the regular season have a chance
that one team doesn't touch the ball if they're not
going to extend overtime. The whole point in regular season

(01:27:56):
is not to lengthen not to have five fifteen minute quarters.
You're not looking at a situation where neither one of
you would be a fan of an extra quarter, then,
is that what I'm getting because that was theory number two? No,
they they're trying to figure out what they can do
with punts just because they don't want people for the
regular season. But in the postseason, none of us would

(01:28:17):
be opposed to seeing a little bit of extra football.
So okay, so let's go ahead and eliminate those two.
Here's a couple of off the wall theories. Now again,
I'm gonna have to really lay out both of these
slowly because I'm not sure if they make sense to me.
It's called the spot and shoes rule. This was proposed

(01:28:38):
by the Ravens last year, and it would definitely be different.
Are you ready under this rule? So different that it
probably won't happen, But it's curious, and you know about
this so you can help me if I botch it.
One team would choose the yard line where the overtime
drive starts, and the other team would choose whether they

(01:29:00):
want to play offense or defense. So, in other words,
if team A and B were playing in overtime, team
A won the coin toss, they would pick any spot
on the field where the first drive of overtime would start.
So if they picked the ten yard line, that's ninety
yards away from the end zone, and team B would
get to choose whether it wanted to play offense or defense.

(01:29:23):
That yeah, exactly half yard line. Take the half yard line,
and then what you would be able to choose if
you want to play offense or not. The team B
gets to choose. That's why you're not gonna get the safety. No, no, arenie.
They get to choose offense or defense, right right, So
if they play defense to try to get the safety,
they're not gonna get, is what I'm saying. What do

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you know if it's on the one, they'll say, we'll
take the offense in the game. No, I met the
other way though, the other side, though, you said they
get to choose. Um, what you're like, they want to
be on and the other team gets to decide. Suppose
they said, we want to put on our own one
yard line and see what they do with it. Though

(01:30:06):
I think what he's saying is that's a stupid decision
because you don't get to pick offer ins or defense. You. Yeah,
so if they picked the half yard line and the
other teams like, we're gonna be on offense and a
sorry so that, Like I said, I'm not It took
me a while to right here. Here's the scenario that
they that they laid out as well. Uh, the overtime

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of this proposal would be a ten mint ten minutes
sudden death period, and the other rules would be the
same as they are now. If a team scores a
touchdown on its first drive, then they win, But if
they take a field goal of the game continues, it
would take the coin flip out of the game, but
I guess it doesn't necessarily ensure both teams would have

(01:30:48):
a possession. Now, they give a scenario for the Bills
Chiefs game. They say, if the rule had been in
place for the a f C Divisional game, Chiefs coach
Angie Andy Reid could have picked any spot of the
field Let's say he chooses the five yard line. At
that point, Sean McDermott would have determined whether or not
his team wants the ball, knowing that he's ninety five
yards away from a possible touchdown. The risk of taking

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the ball in the five yard line is if that
you go three and out, the other team will likely
be near field goal range after you punt out of
your own end zone. So there's a lot of different
scenarios that could play on. Now. I'm really that's what
I tried to say before you have to go. You're
saying yards, I said nine yards. It could be you
could be either way. I mean, I'm just I'll tell you.

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I love the idea. It sounds very much like backyard
football to me, which I'm here for. But I think
the Sager hit it on the head. It's so different
it wouldn't make It would be too much for a change.
It needs what three quarters votes from the league whatever
comes through. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, all right. Then there's one
more scenario here quickly. This is called the field goal gamble.

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All right. If the NFL wants to get rid of
the coin toss and replace it with, say a skills competition,
then they could go with the field goal game. Under
this rule, the home team would pick a distance for
a field goal that would decide who gets the ball first.
The away team would then decide which team has to

(01:32:15):
attempt the field out of bound back. Wait a minute,
we'd be deciding a playoff game like hold just for
the just for for the ball. Andy Reid would have
picked the distance for a field goal. Let's say he
decided to go with fifty nine yards. At that point,
Sean McDermott would get to decide whether the Chiefs are Bills,

(01:32:38):
get to the side, get to who gets to kick
the ball. If he decides that the Chiefs should attempt
the kick and they make it, then Kansas City gets
the ball first. The Bills would have to kick off
for them. On the other hand, if the Chiefs missed
the field goal, then the Bills would get the ball first.
This would take the coin toss out and put prest
with the kick. Or you could just have he hate
me run the midfield against the Wan and see who

(01:33:00):
gets the first man. Again, I didn't come up with
a scenario that too crazy that that's just like saying
shoot for rounds, you know what I mean? He does
accomplish taking the coin toss out. It give you that,
but it's you realize that whoever wins the playoff game
still has to play another game the next weekend. Right,

(01:33:23):
that's true. That's very true. Four hour trip to the
stadium just to win in the first place before you
go to the next city. I don't know if the
whole spot rule makes a lot of sense to me,
just going back to that, because the spot and shooes rule,
you pick a spot on the field, the first drive
will start there. You pick the ten yard line. They
get to pick offense or defense. Then of course they're

(01:33:44):
picking offense, so everybody will choose the spot somewhere around midfield.
So you couldn't go That's what I'm so confused. You
can't go now midfield. You know one first down we
can get. You have to pick midfield that you have
at least mathematically, you'd have to pick midfield. A couple

(01:34:04):
of quick tweets on this club rights is over time.
This overtime thing is stupid. I keep hearing how it's
going to be like this. It can only be like that.
And then there's the dumb ideas that came out of
the woodwork. It's simple. Do you ever play beer pong,
It's called rebuttle. If you're not going to take a
coin flip at a rebuttle, now, listen, that would be

(01:34:27):
fantastic and very modern era. If all of a sudden
we get to over time and they bring out like
a beer pong table and it's like, all right, coaches,
time for rebuttle. Well, that wouldn't have been good for
the bills. They would have smashed. The tables have been
gone Roger the engineer, and the playoffs just getting rid
of the coin toss. Home team gets to choose at

(01:34:48):
start and in O t because of the better record
than everyone knows the situation the entire game, whereas the
visitor gets to choose the coin toss. Right, that's the
whole that's the protocol for NFL football, right, you would
think you would think, But in this instance, yeah, take
the toss out of it entirely, and sorry, visitor, I

(01:35:11):
don't I think that this is trending, guys, towards an
extra quarter if I'm being serious, I just think it's
either that or you know, first score doesn't win you're
talking about right, Uh, they'll never go for a full
fifteen minutes regular season, that maybe it's just ten. I mean, so,
so we're gonna have a separate set for the playoffs

(01:35:32):
and then a separate overtime plan for the regular season. Right,
keep it the way it is for the regular season,
and then do an extra ten minute quarter for the
post season. I could playing the full ten Yes, I
could get behind that. Well. That would be interesting because
then you'd have the whole clock management thing at the end.
It would be like real football. I dug up the
average drive in an NFL game is four minutes, so

(01:35:54):
that would be basically each team would you get a drive,
So that means like Jacksonville a minute and a half
and every and else right right about five or six minutes.
I think it was actually were like three fifty and
I kind of rounded up there a little bit, but there,
I guess the point is already before we grab a
time out, there's nothing that just really jumps out right.

(01:36:15):
There's not a plan out there where you're like, oh,
there it is. I think just giving the other team
of possession, whether the first team gets a field goal
or a touchdown, is the fairest way they get to
have a fourth down play because they know what they're
going up against. So but if the other the first
team doesn't score, then they're not going to go for
it on fourth down more than likely. So I'm okay

(01:36:37):
with that. That's that's probably the fairest way. I can't
wait to see what other kind of crazy spot and
shoes idea comes out. I didn't even know you could
make so many different How many double overtime games have
we had? I know, Miami, Kansas City? Um? Yeah, how many?
How many double overtimes? Right right right? Which one? Burn ce? Ce?

(01:37:02):
There's not many? Is kind of what I guess. A
point is hold double? How many would you guess real quick?
If I said it over under? Like five? Would you
take the over or the under? I would have probably
said the over, but I didn't. Dave Casper went a
playoff game. That's the ghost to the post. All right,
double overtime games in the NFL, um it looks like, uh,

(01:37:26):
it looks like four good double overtime games. The post
six six Dolphins Chiefs nineteen seventy one. The looks like
the Dolphins won the game when Paid Manning lost. Remember
when wasn't there like a drop pass and it went
a second overtime with Flacco. Yes, yes, so one v

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one divisional playoffs, Dolphins Chiefs to the nineteen sixty two
a f L championship games. That was famous because the
coin toss. We talked about that again. The guy for
the coin toss won the coin toss and said we'll
kick to the clock. I came to the sidelines and
what did you say? Hey, we're kicking off, and then

(01:38:08):
with the wind it was wrong. Also, look at your
memory nineteen eighties six. That's Bernie Cosar Browns versus Jets,
two thousand and twelve, Ravens Broncos goes to the post
nineteen seventies seven. I think that's the right one. Raider fans.
Raiders beat the Colts thirty one and the two thousand

(01:38:31):
and three divisional playoffs. The Panthers beat the Rams twenty
nine six double overtime games, but one of them is
a f L, so I guess you could say five.
So I guess the point is it doesn't happen very often, right,
so you don't make up rules just to avoid that.
As my was my home point, all right, when we
come back. Sarnian Plank on a Fox Sports Sunday. Let's

(01:38:55):
dive into some Laker talk next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Fox Sports Radio on a Sunday night. I'm I'm kind
of proud of myself for finding all the double overtime games.
Can't you say? I want to place the ball on
my one yard line or your one yard line? So

(01:39:16):
if I placed it on your one line your line,
you have no choice but to go ahead and take
the ball. I guess I don't know. Maybe I like
that otherwise that you're can be placed again into the
fifth yard line every time, which again might be the
whole point of the rule. No. No, that no, that

(01:39:36):
no you that's no. Why not what you're not doing that?
You you want somebody to say, we'll put it back
at our own tent or something like that. Why why
because you want them to go ninety yards to score? No? No, no,
I just mean you're like, well you want them too,
I mean, well why do you want them to? I mean,
it's just you, you can pick wherever you want. I

(01:39:57):
don't know if the powers that be are like, yeah,
we want to do this. I think they're trying to
find a way that just kind of adds a little
strategicy to an arty more than anything else. But I
got what you're saying. I got what you're saying. Um,
this is uh really sparked a conversation and Twitter. You
can get this up at Stinking Genius one at Plank Show.
Everybody should be following us at Fox Sports Radio. This

(01:40:18):
is a good point from Pete. Pete rites with the
current emphasis on betting. Why is the coin toss uh
denigrated so badly? In other words, you know, it's kind
of like a coin flip anyway, I just Pete, I
think it's the idea that games are being decided on
a coin toss, right that that's my thought on it.

(01:40:39):
They want to try to have a situation where everyone's
getting an opportunity, and it's kind of for a lead
that doesn't care too much about fair kind of makes
it a little bit more fair across the board. Right, Um,
I guess, but the coin flip is fair. It's still
fifty fifty. I mean, um, you know it's it's fair
in that regardles like supposed to be here here is

(01:41:04):
And then Colin goes the other side of it. New
playoff o t rule no coin toss possession determined by
opening coin toss. If you elect to receive, you also
get the ball in overtime and each team gets the ball. Oh,
come on, we gotta have that moment and overtime where
the official comes out there and explains to us the
overtime rules. All right, here's the rules of overtime for

(01:41:27):
the eight thousand and five seventies six time to tell
you what it is. Ums. By the way, who is says,
how are you doing so much with the yard line spotting?
Well that that's because Chris didn't explain it to me, right,
you said, your kid? I mean no, I I told
you you could either put it on your one line
or yard line or there one yard line. We didn't

(01:41:50):
think about that earlier. Well, I I just again, I
don't know. The spot idea sounds good, but it seems
as if if you're like, all right, put it on
the one, like okay, I'll think football will go score.
I think the point is, I think that's meant to
maybe push it to where it would be around the
forty or the forty five. I kind of like the

(01:42:10):
field goal idea, to be honest with with you, I
kind of thought that was pretty cool. Uh, even rights,
I think the rules should be changed. Maybe we keep
the coin flip and if the team scores, the other
team has one more drive to keep up. I actually
think the field goal thing would work out pretty well.
All right, here's our decision. We're gonna kick a field
goal from get your kicker really good, where he's from

(01:42:30):
sixty and then you get the football first and it's
still listen. I know it's probably implausible, but I love
that we're talking about it. I love that the NFL
is at least thinking about it, and I love that
we'll be sitting here a week from now and there
still won't be a decision. Why don't we just move
the goal post back up to ten yards and that
way you're you're kicking for from your own like forty

(01:42:52):
yard line to win the game. Go back old school
where it's right in the back of the end zone.
All right, keep these kind This is gonna be conversation,
especially with the news breaking that the NFL is looking
at adjusting it's overtime. We're gonna have conversations and theories
all over the place. In the meantime, let's go Steve
Disager in the house. What's going on, Steve well A

(01:43:15):
reminder that we've got big baseball news tomorrow, and I
think we all are expecting the same things. But at
least the labor talks between the owners and the players
union will continue tomorrow. They did meet every day this
past week. Negotiations will continue in Florida, but MLB still
says a deal must be done by tomorrow night to
ensure that Opening Day will take place as scheduled. Kyle

(01:43:36):
Larson won the NASCAR race on Fox in Southern California.
Larson's from northern California. You won the Cup Series title
last year. Today he only led twenty eight of the
two laps. Austin Dillon finished second. Tyler Reddick led ninety
laps but finished the lapdown in twenty fourth place. NASCAR's
in Las Vegas next Sunday, also on Fox TV. A
reminder that in college basketball, there's one week left in

(01:43:57):
the regular season. Selection Sunday from Arch Madness is two
weeks away. Maryland upset number twenty two Ohio State today
seventy five to sixty, and then there's the late game
in the NBA. New Orleans wiped the floor with the
Lakers in l A one, twenty three to ninety five.
Lakers have lost nine of their last twelve games from
three point range tonight seven of thirty four twenty three

(01:44:20):
turnovers for l A. This week, they'll be playing Dallas,
l A, Clippers, and Golden State. More on those teams
in a moment. But did you know? I found out
from stats Inc. That an NBA history going into this season,
there had never been an instance where a team had
two former m vps in the lineup and still lost

(01:44:40):
at home by at least twenty five points against an
opponent with a LUKE losing record, and the Lakers have
done that twice now, including tonight, both in this same season.
Dallas was down twenty one at Golden State mid third
quarter and still beat the Warriors one oh seven one
oh one, LUKA dons thirty four points. MAVs went on
a twenty twenty six to one run in the fourth quarter,

(01:45:03):
Golden States scored one point in an eight and a
half minute span, and in what turned out to be
a close game, Golden States starters on free throws were
four for twelve. Clay Thompson did not play due to illness.
Steph Curry at twenty seven points. Tennis is only one turnover,
but the Warriors lost at home. Golden State will play
at Dallas on Thursday, and the Clippers were down nine

(01:45:24):
early fourth quarter at Houston, but still won. The Rockets
not good on free throws eleven of eighteen, lost by
a point. Houston's lost nine games in a row. For Detroit,
Kelly olynnok the game winning basket at the buzzer of
overtime to win at Charlotte one seven six. Hornets have
lost ten of their last twelve LaMelo ball in defeat
six of twenty four shooting seventeen points, so the Hornets

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in overtime oh and seven this year three times in
the last couple of weeks, Denver won at six straight game,
easily winning at Portland. This was the final State night
for NICOLEA Yokich close to a triple double eight points,
eighteen rebounds, eleven assists and a blowout. He was only
on the court twenty six points. In the last thirty

(01:46:07):
years of the NBA, that's the fewest minutes to get
over fifteen rebounds and ten assists in one game. Indiana
beat Boston, Utah one ad, Phoenix, and Philadelphia set the
next to a fifth straight loss. One, one oh nine.
There were about eighty free throws combined in that game.
James Harden had a triple double, including sixteen assists, Joel
and beat thirty seven points. Philly is third in the

(01:46:30):
Eastern Conference, two and a half games back of Miami.
Back to you, thanks a lot, Steve uh. We're gonna
talk to Chris McGee. Getter McGee is gonna join us
here in a bit, Artie's old buddy. I like this
from Chris. One more thought on the overtime Nature Boys
got one to Chris writes, first team to score during
the game gets the ball first, and o t would
eliminate teams from deferring to start the game. Okay, maybe

(01:46:53):
I get I don't know, though, Chris. I think it's
a fair question, kind of a fun theory. But I
don't know if the NFL looks at and says we've
gotta stop teams from deferring. I like your idea and
the nature Boy rides new overtime rules have a contest
in midfield to golf a ball into a giant clown's mouth.
First one to make it gets the ball on the
opponent's twenty yard that's the best one I've heard so

(01:47:13):
far for someone who's playing some putt putt golf this week,
let's go. I like it quite a bit, all right,
Keep these coming at Stinking Genius One, at Plank Show
catch us, and at Fox Sports Radio on Twitter as well,
because we gotta move on. We've got to move on
to a disaster, a disaster that was so bad tonight
the owner left in the third quarters. We'll talk Lakers

(01:47:37):
Pelicans with Chris McGee next on Fox Sports Radio, ghost
Ghostbusters well done? Or a live look at Los Angeles
and Laker fans Right now, Arnie, your pick? Which one
cut from the movie Ghostbusters are the Lakers? Hey? Is

(01:48:02):
Chris McGee gonna? Is he with us? Now? Are we
waiting on him still? He is trying to run to
his car from the set right now? Okay, okay, beautiful.
I just want to be like and we welcome Chris McGee.
I'm really good at that. By the way, Why am
I not doing TV for the Lakers? I don't know
why they haven't asked me yet? Quick question, why in
everything that is going on in the world of sports,

(01:48:25):
do you feel like you should have been asked to
do it before? Our guests who are going to have
on to talk about it should have been asked to
do it. Well, when I lived in l A, I
was a pretty big deal. Just ask me. I would imagine, Um, hey,
let's get this is really good. This is really good.
Um Jeff writes, what is the team that wins the
coin toss has the choice to start on their own

(01:48:47):
one yard line on offense or at the opponents start
on their own one line on defense. Um, So ninety
nine yards out and first team scores any points wins?
Or do you just or do that? Plus no punting allowed?
Teams wants to go for it on fourth down? Okay,
all right, then I'm not gonna put it in the
one yard line. Hold on. I've got an idea overtime

(01:49:08):
period ten minutes, no punts. It's it's a rule ten
minute period in in the in the playoffs, right, because
we're very clear they don't want to add more time
to the regular season. And when I say time, I
meaning the game. But Arnie, what if you just took
one element out of the game. What if just in
overtime we say no punting in overtime you gotta go

(01:49:29):
for it, and you kind of go with the choose game.
I'm not too crazy about that. You know, you still
want to have the punting angle and ota. Not that
I want to punt, not that I love punting, but
you gotta give him an option. I don't want to
take things away from the game. Um when you're doing that, No,
I am not not for that at all. Um. Okay,
well then how about this then, because this is a

(01:49:51):
good theory as well from Roger who writes, how about
the NFL tells the revs to actually call offensive past interference?
Then the defense my matter? Again? Yeah, there's not enough
offensive pass and inference being called. I never understood why
the offensive guy just gets to take his hand and
smack you in the face and the helmet and your
face mask and all that and get away with it.

(01:50:12):
I mean, just like pretty much rip you down and
drag you down by your helmet and nothing ever gets
called you ever. Ever. It takes so much to get
an offensive pass interference called. I've got some good tweets
on the Lakers, which will hold off on now because
we've got our man. UH been dying to talk to
this guy since Friday night. Chris McGee Geeter joins us

(01:50:33):
here on Fox Sports Radio covers the Lakers as close
as anyone else. All right, Chris, take us through it.
How how challenging was it tonight to try to find
anything good from what took place? If there was inside
Crypto dot com Marina tonight, Well, guys, it was big
game James's birthday. Yeah, what's up on the STU Lance night? Um.

(01:50:57):
I gave a Andy DeFraine reference game on the show
as well as the Titanic ship that we would stay
on it, just like the band playing at the end
when the ship was going down. We'll stay on till
the very end. No, I'm just kidd it was. It
was tough, man, I was saying the postgame show with
with Fish and James and the crew, just you know,
it's it's interesting you go into these games us too,

(01:51:18):
you know, as broadcasters and stuff like that, with with
hopes of you just thought it would be different energy.
You're thinking, you know, Okay, they're gonna play better tonight,
and then just not matching the energy the Pelicans and
I'll fall down by thirty two and get kind of
blown out. Those are tough nights, guys. But Geeter, by
the way, Hi, Geeter, what happens when you go to
the supermarket and somebody sees you to go, hey, TV boy,

(01:51:41):
what's the first time if they say to you, I'm
telling you, I gotta tell you, Ernie. I mean, honestly, man, Like,
how many times over the last couple of weeks as
everyone says, what's going on with the Lakers? It's been
so many times, Man, it's been so many times. It's
the first thing they say, what's going on with the Lakers.
That's what they say every time. So where's the fix?

(01:52:04):
Is it a matter of these three guys getting games together,
getting Anthony Davis healthy? Where where's the fix? Chris Well, Yeah,
I mean I think I think I was saying that
a lot earlier in the year, and I only kind
of sigh because I just feel like it sounds like
an excuse now, you know what I mean. Like even

(01:52:26):
when the twenty games they were together, they were ten
and ten. I mean, listen off. As you guys know,
you've covered sports your whole life. You've been a part
of sports, and you know it is true. Obviously you
need to go through battles, you need to fish set
it great on the show tonight, Like you know, you
gotta learn. He's like, the reason why we were able
to win is because we had teams have been together.
We knew each other and we knew how we acted
during bad times. And as long as you can stay

(01:52:48):
together during the locker room, there's always a chance that
you can kind of get it together. But you know,
this minute you fraction and you start to pull away
in the locker room starts to struggle, that's when there
could be real trouble. I don't you know. Everyone's kind
of saying the right things right now, but you know,
it's just hard for me to use those excuses with
the games in hand and how many you know, together,

(01:53:08):
and the injuries. Yes, it is a huge part of it, guys,
there is no question about it. But they haven't looked
They've looked like a five team when they are healthy.
So you know, Geter, what what did you make a
Genie Buss leaving in the in the third that? I mean,
what do you read into that? I'm not saying anything
about that, Arendie. I didn't know anything about that. Artie

(01:53:30):
I was. I was in my host chair on than Gean.
He's the greatest she could do. I don't know where
she was going, you know what did charge Pallly Dolphin?
Pallly Dolphin, you should get on the show. Yeah what
I said. I'm surprised she doesn't give me a call
and you know, you know, ask me about how to
fix the Lakers. I mean she she was our basketball

(01:53:53):
manager when I played on the basketball team. I love it.
Drop that on her sometime, geter and see if she
ever remembers the stinking genius. I doubt she does. Hey, Chris,
how do you think Russ has been handling this? It's
been tough. I mean, listen that there's audible gasps whenever
he tries to shoot sometimes. I love Russ covered him

(01:54:14):
in Oklahoma City, saw his MVP season, But listen, he
he has that attitude where doesn't bother him. But how's
he kind of handling the lack of success in this
return for the team. That's interesting, Steve, you that's right,
you covered him in Okay, see right. I mean, you
know it's funny. I think you bring up such a
great point. I think that's what Fish was alluding to tonight.

(01:54:35):
Like you know, Russ in the post game, He's like, listen,
this is how I do it. Like I'm going home
and I'm letting it go. And and I know what
the goal is, and I know what kind of player
I am, and I know what we have here, and
he says the right things. But yeah, guys handle it
much differently. But that's what Fish said. You know, Fish
was in Okay see as well. You know he said, listen,
like there, you know, Russ is gonna come back tomorrow.

(01:54:56):
He's gonna be Russ. He sees everybody's gonna be the
same guy. Some guys should handling you somethly. So listen,
I think he's I'm gonna give him some credit on
some things, like right right, he steps up to the microphone. Um,
I know that's not always a favorite thing for these guys. Um,
it's it's brutal during rough times, but the leaders of
your team and the best players have to step up

(01:55:16):
and and talk to the media. And and I appreciate
that he has done that. And he has also opened
up at times he shares some insight, um with how
he's trying to fit in. Um, it's just been a bummer, man,
It's it's it's been a bummer because as you know,
like you said, I mean, you know how bad he
wants it. You know how hard he plays, you know
what he brings to the table, and it just hasn't

(01:55:37):
gone well as a team. And and I hate to
think that, you know, he gets more blame than everybody,
you know. I just think that that's part of the deal.
They all know it, right, Like Ad he's gonna get
blamed when he's injured, right, Lebron is always going to
be the guy at the forefront. And then there's Russ
who you gave up a lot of assets to get.
So those guys understand the drill and and and it's
just part of it, man, be honest with you, geter

(01:55:57):
when they're back in healthy, is it still too Can
they turn it and turn it around and write the
ship or what? Listen, Arnie, I'm I'm always gonna I'm
always gonna say there's a chance for sure. Um, I'll
just say this, Arnie was interesting, Like heading out of
the All Star Break, my whole thing was like, can
we please stop kind of talking about the sixth seed
and where they could get to and just start playing

(01:56:19):
good basketball? Like my whole thing has been if they
can just start playing well and get confident and get right,
then they're dangerous I mean, listen, you you you know
Stevie Kurr up there really well, and so do I
and Bruce Fraser and some of the guys on that staff,
Like even they'll tell you, like they don't really want
to see the Lakers as a seven seed, right, but
the Lakers to do that have to get to eight
so they can play in the seven eight game. That

(01:56:41):
was kind of my goal was like just try to
get there so you can get into the series. And
once you're in a series, man, it's kind of anyone's game,
and a and a healthy team can can sure can
make a run. But it's just too hard to think
about that right now because of where we're at, to
be honest with you, all right, Chris, we're short on time,
but I definitely want to ask about Austin Reeves getting
insert it into the starting lineup again. You know, he's

(01:57:03):
the guys are gonna try to get physical with him,
and that's fine, but what have you kind of seen
is is areas where he needs to continue to improve
if he's going to be a difference maker, well, if
he's gonna be all I watched him in watching then
is a couple of years in Oklahoma. You know what
I I wish I had because like I knew the name,
but didn't watch him enough. I've just been really impressed.

(01:57:26):
One thing. He doesn't back down though, Like you know, listen,
you know I think is gonna happen. Remember like with
Caruso kind of hit and and then he got stronger
and all Studdi's you know, all those means and gifts
with him getting buff like Arnold, Like I think like Austin.
Now that he's gonna get stronger, he's going to hit
the weight room, he's going to have a full off season.
He's going to learn how to do this. But the
guys love him. Man, he makes winning plays. He's he's

(01:57:50):
a plus minus guy. Like I just love how tough
he is, Like guys try to go at him and
he's not afraid of of a moment. I just don't
think you can coach those kind of things. He has
the native qualities and I think can stick in this league.
I I really do, Like I would have loved to
kind of go back and watch him in college, and
I know guys have watched tape and instead he was
actually you know, he's always been this guy, right, Uh,

(01:58:11):
he's got a little more offense than people think too. Yeah,
complete game man. Listen, Chris, we gotta run. We really
appreciate you coming on with us. Never fun to talk
after loss, but we'll have to do this again soon. Listen, love,
love you guys, So thanks for having me on. Anytime
you're you're doing the show, just let me know and
and if I get off in time, I'll join. It's
your guy. He did drop like, you know, Jeanie, you

(01:58:35):
know Steve twice. I was like, if Farney knows Steve Kerr,
how can he? As in texted are called the show
first jealous because I was better. I was better than
him in high school, and I'm better than him now.
It's just a part in the middle. He was better.
Did you see my Oklahoma Sooner softball team just made
the Sports Center Top ten? No, I didn't see that,

(01:58:55):
you have. They had a triple play turned on him today.
I think I heard you call that. Yeah, I don't
think you did, because I may have cussed. All right, Alrety,
you got thirty seconds. Any picks you want to throw
out there to wrap the show up. Frank Boyle, Uh, yeah,
we'll be fired. He'll be gone. I put the clock
on you. I'm sorry. I already had to make a
pick in less than thirty seconds. My bad. Already have

(01:59:18):
a great week, buddy to my friend. Great stuff from
John romisonnight dig you Danny G. Great guest list for
Steve to Sager, Arti Spanier, I'm Chris playing Big Big
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