Steve Hartman & Rich Ohrnberger Talk Watson, Mayfield, Adams & AFC West

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports. Hi, Yes, living the dream
once again on a fabulous Saturday, Carton and Armburger with you.
This is Fox Sports Saturday March Menace in full swing.
We got NFL news, we got Major League Baseball news, NBA,

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we got everything, We got everything going on today, and
here we are once again together. Rich You're with me
every day, like literally every single day. I mean normally,
of course, Monday through Friday we're together. Sundays we're together.
But this is the second consecutive Saturday that you're jumping
in for Jeff Schwartz, meaning we're we're taking it for

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nineteen consecutive days. Um, how are you holding up? How
are you holding up? Nineteen consecutive days? What are we
on thirteen right now? At thirteen right now through through
Friday will be nineteen coming up night. Well, And the
reason why I point that out is because don't count
your chickens before they hat. One of one of the
two of us could fall out before day nine. Unbelievable

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day already we'll get chuffed. Dated by the way, We're
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Las Vegas dot com. Alright, round two of the n
c A A Tournament and what a game already today
North Carolina the eight seed going against the number one seed,
defending champion Baylor, and Baylor was buried, I mean absolutely buried.

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They were down twenty five a little over ten minutes
to go on the game. It was like, Wow, how
bad is Baylor to lose this way after winning a
national championship And the next thing you look up and
they're in overtime. Somehow North Carolina pulled this game out
after blowing a twenty five point lead with a little

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over ten minutes to go. I still have no idea
how it happened. Yeah, it was an unbelievable game start
to finish. Um. I was actually coming home from little
league practice when Baylor was just starting to chip away
at this this lead and getting back into this game.
And it was bonkers because it all started with the

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flagrant too that led to the ejection, and then just
the complete tone of the entire game shifted and North
Carolina look, I mean credit that they were able to
hang on and finish the job. And as a one seed,
you knew Baylor was gonna be a tough out, but
how do you allow a team to get back into
a game with twenty five points? I have no idea,

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but I was riveted the whole time. I was on
my feet. I was living in dying by every possession
it was. That's why March is so great. Well, it's
and very unpredictable, that is for sure. I don't know
how everyone's brackets are doing out there. There's certainly been
a few upsets along the way, and we got a
lot of action going on right now, though another number

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one seed could be in trouble. Kansas is leading the
nine c Creton twenty seven, twenty six. Seven minutes ago,
we saw Creton knockout San Diego State with an amazing comeback.
They were down nine with under four minutes to go
in that game and came back to win in overtime.
So no fear for Creighton going up against Kansas. But

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already one number one is out. Baylor is history. Uh,
and we got games coming up here coming up in
an hour. Uh. Michigan a number eleven seed this year,
taken on a three seed Tennessee. That I believe you've
got going all the way to the championship game. Yeah, Tennessee,
I got them facing Duke in my bracket. Um, I

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just liked the storylines on both sides, right, you got
Schefski's last season with the Duke Blue Devils. You got
the volunteers feeling shunned with their seating in their side
of the bracket, probably fueled by some revenge. I just
liked the storylines and I think that makes for the
best watch. And so if we could got a Tennessee

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Duke final, that's fine by me. And also to make
me look like a genius. Also, right after that Michigan
Tennessee game, Providence the four seed, they'll be taken on
Iowa the I I'm sorry, I'm sorry Iowa in my brackets,
but they got crossed down after losing to Richmond the

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twelve seed Iowa Sam who says that, I mean I
I had it in my I was looking at my brackets, right,
and then I realized, I go dig it out, Okay,
they'll it'll cross out for you actually cross them out,
and I had it. Still hurts. Yeah. Later I walk

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I walk in today rich seriously and he's going on
and on about the Iowa women's team very exciting two
seed that they were really his focus the entire time.
I didn't say yes. And he's also goes cyclones. Hey listen,
they got it that when over l s U and
the women are really good too, talked ambassador for the state.

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You know, you wouldn't even talk to us about the
cyclones last week, not even I mean he would even
bring it even afterthought. I'm not gonna lie. You know,
barely got into the eleven seed, but took care of
a sixth seed and they move on on like Iowa,
which went down to Richmond. Although you did bring up
a good point. Richmond has been notorious for first round
upsets over the years. They have nine n C Double

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A tournament wins as a twelve seed or lower. When
you think about it, yeah nine win. Nine wins in
the opening round as a twelve seed or any round.
Yeah wow. You know, and sometimes and this is true,
like there are certain teams who just embody that upset mentality,
Like once they get to the show, you know that

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you can throw in behind them because they've done it
before historically with their program, and they could do it again.
I know, I know. There are certain divisions in football
from an NFL's standpoint, certain teams and conferences in UH,
in basketball who are just thorns in the side of
the rest of their conferences, and Richmond to the n
c Double A tournament has become that. The biggest stunner

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of the tournament so far, no doubt, was St. Peter's
the fifteen seed taken out Kentucky. Of course, that was
typical of my kiss of death which is ongoing. UH
as I had Kentucky and my final four saying Calipari's due,
he is just due for another Final four, and they
went down to St. Peter's. St. Peter's. Now St. Peter's

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gets the seven seed Murray State today. Now this is
a Murray State team, by the way, thirty one and
two this year, a remarkable record. I think they're on
a twenty one game winning streaker, something along those lines.
So one of those teams is gonna move on to
the Sweet six team. Uh. And then also coming up
in a little bit, UH, my U c l A

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Bruins taken on St. Mary's. How much faith did I
have in U c l A. I have St. Mary's
and my brackets knocking out U. C l A and
after U c l A barely escaped against the third
team seed Akron and St. Mary's blew through their first
game U nothing has really changed my mind. But think
about this. The winner of that game instead of the
one seed Baylor gets the eight seed North Carolina in

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the SWED six team. So an opportunity for one of
these teams to avoid a one seed and the defending
national champions. Yeah, I I look at the I don't care. Honestly,
I don't know about you, but like I, I have
no ties to the tournament other than just my interest
in seeing like great games. And so far Thursday and Friday,

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so far today, all we've been seeing is wall to
wall action these games. How many have gone to overtime already?
Are we reaching a record? It seems like it. I mean,
it's just every game is a close game, Every game
is insane. I was actually talking to somebody today who said,
I'm curious how the selection committee made the decisions on
the seating, because they can really pull the wool over

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our eyes. From an analytical standpoint, yeah, teams seat where
they will, But when you look at where teams are,
I mean, how many times do we see twelves win,
you know what I mean, Like, were these appropriate seeds
or did they want to get some juice around the
tournament and have an upset tournament? So I don't know.
I mean it was a conspiracy theory. I was over

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hearing this morning. I'm watching these games though, and all
I know is I'm riveted. Well they claim that they
literally seed one through eight. Yeah, I mean they do.
They You're you're seated one through sixty eight, and then
they just do the matchups as they fall. Um. But
sometimes you gotta wonder there's I mean, for instance, your
Duke team. I say, you're Duke team because you're picking

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him and win the national championship. No, no, no, I'm
picking Tennessee in the you have Tennessee when you so?
You you That would be brutal for coach K to
get that deep and then go out a loser in
the final game. But I mean, is it just my
chance that Duke is playing Michigan State? Two legends of
the game. By the way, no two teams coaches have

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ever matched up more times in the n c A tournament.
This will break a record. I believe it's the sixth
matchup ever between coach K and Izo in the n
c A tournament. No two coaches have ever faced off
against each other more times in March Madness. That was
just chance. I don't think so. Uh is O is

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definitely looking forward to that game tomorrow. It's gonna be
an interesting matchup, obviously to Hall of Fame coaches. Two
guys combined, Get this too, they have twenty final four
appearances combined, twenty twelve for coach K, eight for Izzo.
That's gonna be one of those great that's where you
know the players almost start second FIDLD because you see

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recognizable faces. You know, right day you see is though
Coach K back and forth and everything else. Part of
the beauty of March Madness. Three and against Coach K
is the two and three in the tournament. Yeah, two
and three in the tournament. By the way, as you mentioned,
you were absolutely correct. They have met in the tournament
more than any other college any other pair of college

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basketball coaches in the history of the sport. Um there
only behind Roy Williams Verse Bill self at five and
Eddie Sutton Verse Danny Crust will be number six. Put
those guys over in the rear view mirror, exactly right, yeah.
So it was actually an interesting courtside uh interview with
Tom Izzo when they were talking about the upcoming matchup
with coach k because he said, yeah, you know, so

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I'm three and thirteen and then uh he was correct
and they're like, no, you're three and twelve. He's like, oh,
even better because I'm doing all right. He's loving it.
We're loving it all the march mandess going on. All right.
We are going to continue update too. Right now thirty three,
thirty two. Kansas is leading Creighton inside the four minute mark.

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Looks like it's another game that's gonna go down the wire.
But with one number one seed already gone Baylor, another
number one has got a big test going on right now.
That would be Kansas. We also got a ton of
NFL news, Major League Baseball news. Keep it right here.
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Fox Sports Saturday, we have some breaking news, breaking news
from Fox Sports. Guys. Quarterbacks still continue to get paid.
Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is as well, four year extension
coming his way worth a hundred and sixty million dollars.
How about this, A hundred and thirty five guaranteed, now

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a proud member of the forty million dollar a year club. Steve, Yeah,
hundred thirty five a million guaranteed, Thank him, Mr Gascon.
That's nothing compared to the two hundred and thirty million
dollar deal guaranteed for a guy that did not play
a single game last year, that is Deshaun Watson. Alright,
so Rich, we gotta get to this Deshaun Watson deal.

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What's next for Baker Mayfield. But going back to the
deal that the Cleveland Browns made with the Houston Texans
five year contract two hundred thirty million fully guarantee. That
is a new record for largest guaranteed contract in league history.
The Browns gave up three number ones, a third, and
a fourth for Watson and a fifth round pick in

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four let's just start right there for a guy that
is still facing civil lawsuits. Uh, some people still claim
that he could still be facing criminal charges that even
though the grand jury ruled otherwise on the women that uh,
you know, put their cases forth, there are problems with

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women crossing state lines where the federal government can still
be involved in criminal charges down the road. But what
did you make of what the Cleveland Browns did not
only to make this huge deal giving up three number ones,
a third, and a fourth, but giving him fully guaranteed,
highest largest guaranteed contract in league history. Well, I I

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think it was foolish, but I think they're desperate. Um Now,
it's not foolish if everything gets cleared and Watson is
a able to play, He's one of the brightest stars
in the NFL. However, I do think the way they
handled the situation with Baker Mayfield, the way things were
um discussed publicly per sources, and reports and you know,

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look loose lips in ships. And I think that's exactly
the problem in Cleveland right now. How do we know
so much about this process? How did we know or
have so much insight into what was being done um
with Baker Mayfield. It just it's ridiculous, you know. I
I'm not saying Baker is the the best quarterback in

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this league or anything close to it. You know, he's
a top fifteen guy when he's healthy. You know, you
can count on him to give you a chance in
just about every game, especially surrounded by uh, you know,
as many talented parts as that offense has and that
defense has. Frankly, but I just think the reason why
they gave this monumental haul to the Texans for Deshaun

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Watson and why they were willing to agree um to
such a large, guaranteed deal with the Shawn Watson was
because they had no other choice. They they they they
painted themselves into a corner with the pr disaster that
was made of them and their starting quarterback over the
last safe seventy two hours. Yeah, I mean, remember we

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had heard that Cleveland had dropped out, they were out
of the running, that it was down between the Saints
and the Falcons. Carolina was another team that was in
the mix, but they refused to give guaranteed moneies for
the third and fourth year of that deal, so that
took them out. So after Cleveland was ruled out, that's
when they came back and said, fine, we will guarantee

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the entire five year deal two hundred thirty million dollars. Nobody,
nobody think about it. Not Tom Brady, not Aaron Rodgers.
No one has ever received that large of a guaranteed
contract in NFL history. And it goes to a quarterback
who has not played a game since January of one,

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so it's been a long way for Deshaun Watson. Alright.
So on the other side of this, of course, is
the Baker Mayfield situation. So Mayfield has now made it clear, fine,
I want to go to the Indianapolis Colts. Trade me
to the Indianapolis Colts. Well, okay, it's not that easy
Rich to just say, yeah, you go to the Colts.
Colts make sense as far as he's concerned. That is

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a playoff ready team with an outstanding quarterback if Mayfiel
can play at that level. But the idea that a
deal can be made is in question right now if
you're the Cleveland Browns, Look, you're gonna make the deal
with the best deal on the table, especially after giving
up three number ones to get Deshaun Watson. Yeah, yeah,

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I mean I I look, I don't know how much
you're gonna be able to get for Baker, and I'm
not sure if you're gonna want to trade him in
conference anyways. So the one part of it makes the
Colts of potential landing spot because him without a first
round pick, is there gonna be a first round pick
for Baker Mayfield from anywhere else? I kind of feel

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like a second rounder, maybe a couple of the lower
end picks might be all you can get for Baker
Mayfield coming off of an offseason shoulder surgery and one
of his worst seasons playing since he's been in NFL
starting quarterback. UM. So yeah, that part of it lines up.
But do you really want to compete against Baker Mayfield
if you're the Browns at some point, if you make
the postseason and you you end up getting seated where

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you're playing the Colts? No, you know, I and and
not because he's this unbelievable talent that you're worried is
going to destroy the conference, and you traded him away.
Clearly they're ready to walk away from him, but if
you can avoid trading him in conference, you would. So
they're gonna kick the tires on the entirety of the
NFC before they circle back to the Colts. He's a

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better quarterback in Carson Wentz that you can definitely say
with some certain so. And remember they gave up a
one Indianapolis came of a first round pick to get
Carson win. So, I don't you know what what's the
price tag on a Baker Mayfield. There's other teams evolved.
I mean you look at Seattle situation, right, I mean,
what what what is the Seahawks plans? Would they like

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a Baker Mayfield? Would he want to go to Seattle?
That seems to be a team that uh, you know,
there's pretty much coming a part of the scenes. By
the way, did you see this whole thing about Baker
Mayfield where a lot of people around the football circles
is saying, this guy needs to be humbled a little bit.
Uh that uh, for all the success that he had

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in Cleveland. Again, number one overall pick, inheriting a team
that had been one in thirty one the previous two years.
He did a hell of a job in Cleveland, but
was he worth the trouble? That's what a lot of
people are saying in Cleveland. Well, the reports were that
they want an adult right, that they were kind of
tired with the idea of having to deal with Baker

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Mayfield for you know, I mean the entirety of his
next contract too, because there was a lot of baggage
that came with Baker Mayfield in the first place. You know,
the the whole um underrated draft story and how he
became the first overall pick. He was picking fights with
members of the media are very own Colin Coward. I mean,

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he ended up appearing on the show, UM and I
I thought it actually was a pretty good representation. But
the odd thing about it is, how often do you
see that, Like, how often do you see a quarterback
before they even step foot onto a football field as
a professional draw battle lines with members of the media.
It's weird. It's strange. I think he's a little bit

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of a strange cat if I'm being honest, in terms
of how he handles the spotlight. Um we've And the
reason why I say that is because it's different from
how most starting quarterbacks handle the spotlight. Most of them
are very reserved when the microphone gets put in front
of them. Most of them, uh, really do stick to
the party line and they try not to make much
of a fuss about anything. Baker's just cut from a

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different cloth. And I think Cleveland, both the front offices
that have been intact since his time as the starting quarterback,
and both the wire should say, the many head coaches
that he's been coached by. Um, I don't think anybody
really loved it. And so that's a part of the
story too. As much as you are a player, you
are also a representative. You're like the president of a team.

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You know you you are the face of a franchise.
And whether or not it's just you who's accounting for
all those wins and losses, I don't think it is debatable.
Because you gotta play defense, you gotta play offense, you
gotta play special teams. There's ten other players on the
field with him every single time the ball snap. There's
a lot of blaming credit to go around with wins
and losses, but we know that quarterbacks are tied to

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that category, and it's because they are the politician of
the team, and I just don't think from that standpoint
Baker Mayfield was ever that polished of a politician. Well,
we went into this offseason knowing it was gonna be
musical chairs with these NFL quarterbacks. We had so many uncertainty's,
especially when Brady retired than he unretired. We didn't know
about the future of Aaron Rodgers. Now he's back in

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Green Bay. By the way, on the other side, we're
gonna get into the whole Davonte Adams situation, what that
means for the future of the Packers. But right now,
not only do you have the situation with Baker Mayfield,
Remember Jimmy Garoppolo, everybody, it was a done deal that
the fort is gonna turn the page and turn to
Trey Lance. All right, we'll get into more of that
on the other side, but first let's find out what

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it is trending right now. He's about the madness. He
is about the madness. I would be Mr David Gascon.
You know when the tournament started, everyone has their brackets, yes,
and everyone's looking at that stuff. Yeah, I didn't look
at the bracket at all. I had one game circle
and um, I was doing some work. I can imagine

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what this game is, can I guess? You can guess?
Would it have been the Richmond, Iowa game? Yes, it was.
It was. Sam had like texted me and Gavin, who
used to be here like at five and six o'clock
in the morning, like talking about it and it was nauseating.
And then during the middle of the game he took

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a picture and he looked like al Pacino in scarface.
I don't know if that was booger sugar or sugar
or powder or chock. Let's just say Sam was getting
after it and it would have made Vegas very proud. Listen,
it was St. Patrick's day, Dave. I did not have
a sip of alcohol. I didn't say it was alcohol.
I had nothing, nothing that's called cane. Never touched the stuff.

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It was just amazing ever touched that stuff. After to
just watch Iowa vomit on themselves in front of a
natural audience, Steve was just beautiful. Yeah, I know it
first of the conference tournament chance, I just loved life
for a split second. It was it was like having

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Philet Mignon shut up. It's pretty pretty. Also, I'm a
Packer fans. So later in the day, Davante Adams straighted,
we're we got an update, good man, your wide receiver
corps looking solid, solid, alright, Lazard, Oh my god, cyclone.

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So guys, we had mentioned the Matthew Stafford extension four
years and five guaranteed out a hundred sixty million dollars.
Kansas right now at the break leading Craighton, but only
by a point is account there Baylor's come back bid
Philip Short they were down twenty five, mounted it forced
over time, it fell to North Carolina eighties six, Michigan

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and Tennessee is on deck, and of course Steve's used
to the Bruins still afloat and they get St. Mary's
from the West Coast conference at seven ten eastern, four
ten Pacific. By the way, gosh, I'm just if we
can get this done. Daylight savings. You know what daylight
savings is here for life? Well, I haven't. A vote

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goes to the house, right house goes to the house
right now, whether to eliminate well, actually they want to
go to daylight savings permanently. That would be I mean,
that would probably it's close. It wouldn't make my ear.
But the fact that it's started with an Iowa defeat,
all we need is Iowa football. I'll just flame out

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here in the fall. Dave. You do realize that it's
just a national audience, no matter, cheer for the Hogs
to fail. Dave. How you still have the same amount
of sunlight every day, so either going to be in
the dark in the morning or in the afternoon. But
it feels better as a radio hack being stuck here
in the studio all day to get outside. They're still

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sun yeah, instead of total darkness at six Like we
have fun getting up in the dark either. Yeah, but
we have friends right now. They're in Vegas like partying.
They're in sports books, casinos. By the way, it's getting
up in the dark. See I do a morning shot.
It doesn't matter in the morning. There's six of us here,

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and there's six of us here, and we still don't
equally the payroll that Steve Hartman has at seven figures
daylight savings about the whole worlds farmers was then that
the Farmers law that was also like school children not
having to go to the bus stopping it'd be dark
out that's something to fix that though. They'll be fine, guys.
One important, one important note, Luca Garza is not here

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to save Yowa basketball again. Teams. At least he got
there in the city around Oh that really, that one
stings that one. He can murray goodbye off the NBA.
See later, buddy. Hi, Mr Gascon, thank you very much.
By the way. Speaking of wide receivers, I hear the
Packers are putting out a fielder to boy Dollar. He's
eighty four years old, but he was a great receiver

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for the Packers back during the Lombardi era. Was on
the fiftieth anniversary team in the NFL. They're hoping he's
got some mileage left. Yeah, the Packers are looking for
wide receives after Davante Adams, apparently, according to the Packers,
turned down more money to return to the Packers. What happened, yeah, yeah,

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Well what happened was, um, the heart wants what the
heart wants. He wanted to be a raider, he said,
he always wanted to be a raider. And and when
you have leverage, and and it's rare that you have
leverage in the NFL or in sports in general for
a player. I should say, you know, teams, you know,
owners and general managers. They typically are the ones who

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have the most leverage. You know, and um, in this situation,
Davante Adams, I'm pretty sure half the league would have
moved heaven and earth to get him. But he clearly
had his sight set on a team and a particular team,
and they got a haul back for Davante Adams, as
they should. The Packers are obviously rich in some draft

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capital now, but there without arguably the best receiver in
the league right now, and he joins forces with Derek
Carr where they were room eights and teammates at Fresno State.
And I went back and looked at some of their highlights,
actually tweeted some out at at Orenburger if you want
to check them out. It is outrageous how they dominated
the Mountain West together, huge numbers they put at Fresno State. Um. All, right,

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before we get to the Packers, though, let's just let's
take a detour to the Raiders. Danny g Let's bring
Danny in right now. I mean, Danny, um wow, I
mean you you must have been out of your mind.
I mean, nobody saw this happening. We all had thought
once Aaron Rodgers deal was done, that was contingent on
creating space so that the Packers could get Davante Adams

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in a long term deal. I mean, you give up
a first in a second. But for Davante Adams, who
has history with Derek Carr and the fact that you
have Josh McDaniels coming in as your new head coach,
your head must be spinning right now. Danny a dream scenario.
It was a two day offseason stretch like I've never

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had with any of my favorite teams. Because first Wednesday night,
the Dodgers announced Freddie Freeman, so me and my Dodger
family were all going crazy about that. And then Thursday
the news breaks about Davonte Adams and I had to
double check to make sure it wasn't the fake Adam
schefter because all of us Raider fans have dreamed about
this for a couple of seasons. We've seen on social

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media where Adams and car are always going back and
forth with their comments about hey, maybe someday, And as
soon as the Packers franchise tagged Adams were like, yeah,
that kind of puts that to bed. But then when
Adams came out and said, hey, I'm not even playing
for you on the tag Raider fans had hope, We're like,
this could happen? Could this happen? And the fact that

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the new GM and coach pulled this off, my goodness.
I mean, I felt like I was the GM that day.
I had a state dinner, a cigar, I was on
cloud nine, Steve and Rich. I had problems going to
sleep Thursday night. Good for you, Danny, I mean, and
to your point about Dave Ziegler and uh and and

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Josh McDaniels, I I feel strongly about the fact that
they had some inklings that this could happen, right, you know.
So I remember when they signed, people were like, well,
what about Derek Carr? Right, everybody was like, is he
going to stay a Raider? Because it's a new general manager,
it's a new head coach, you know, is this time
to sort of scrap the old the old plan and

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start fresh, start from scratch. I mean, they were a
playoff team and I was like, no, hell no, they
shouldn't do that. And Derek cars a pretty good quarterback.
And I remember there were a lot of people who
were saying, no, no, no, this may be the time
to to reboot. Well, they didn't. And as a result
of that, do you think Davante Adams signs if Derek
Carr isn't the starting quarterback. I don't think so. I

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think he wanted to play with his former college teammate.
You know, Rich, we were talking about this after this
deal was done. You know all the news about Russell
Wilson going to Denver, which obviously puts them in contention.
Are we looking at an a f C West that
legitimately could have four teams when ten games are more
next year? I mean, when you look at the Chiefs,
you look at the Chargers, the additions they made on

(30:08):
the defensive side, Jacy Jackson, Cloe Mack are you kidding me?
That's a major upgrade. And then you got the Raiders
heading Davante Adams, Russell Wilson going to the Broncos. It
is conceivable that all three wild cards in the a
f C could come out of the a f C West. Now,
they're gonna beat each other up, but if they perform

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well out of the division, it's possible. It is possible.
Here's what I will say, though, they all have difficult
schedules because they were all pretty good teams outside of
the Denver Broncos a year ago. So strength the schedule
is going to be a problem out of their division play.
But I will say this, outside of them beating up
on each other, um, you also have to think about Cincinnati.

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You also have to think about the Bills. Um. Again
we're talking about wild cards though. I mean, you know,
Baltimore plays in that division with Cincinnati, so Baltimore is
gonna be a wild card or Cincinnati. You know, the
Patriots and the Bills play each other in the a C,
so one of those two teams is gonna be in
the wild card conversation. Is it conceivable that all four

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teams could go to the postseason? Yes, on paper it's conceivable,
But the a f C is loaded. Look around Joe Burrow,
Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Who am I free Mac Jones.
I mean, there's there's talent outside of the a f
C West, which obviously every team has a star at quarterback.

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So it's going to be a very clogged up area.
And we don't know even we don't even know who
the Cults starting quarterback is gonna be. You know, that
may vault them up the board as well. So well,
I mean, with all due respect to Mac Jones at
a fatherless rookie year, he's not Justin Herbert's Patrick Mahomes,
He's not Russell Wilson. He's not even Derek Derreck Carr
at forty eight hundred yards passing last year without Davonte Adams.

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Do you think of Renfro, you think of Waller? Uh,
you know, Jay Gibs in the backfield, I mean, just
imagine Joshua dan Is. He's got better skilled guys right
now with the Raiders than he had the last several
years with the Patriots, There's no question about it. And
and as far as the past two seasons, he's got
a better quarterback. There's no arguing that Derek Carr right

(32:19):
now is better than than Cam Newton was a year ago.
And there's no arguing that Mac Jones last season was
even close to the level that Derek Carr's And oh,
by the way, he trains with Davante Adams at some
point or another every single off season, so this isn't
one of those situations where he walks in. It's like, oh, well,
you know, they really still have to catch up and
get on page with each other because they haven't played

(32:41):
since when they were in there. You know, Derek Carr
was in his senior year as a Bulldog. No, they've
kept this relationship up. They trained together constantly, so they
have a good familiarity with each other. Look Out, I'm
gonna say it right now, and it sounds crazy to
say something like this in March, but the Raiders could
win a Super Bowl. That's that's the truth as it stands.

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to forty three. So Creton very much as a nine
seed hanging in this game against the one seed Kansas.
We're already lost to one seed today Baylor, although they
came back from a twenty five point deficit in the

(34:27):
second half the force overtime against the h C North Carolina.
Carolina did prevail in overtime. Alright, couple of things I
want to get to with your Rich. Let's talk about
Green Bay and how you replace uh at Vest you
can Davante Adams. I got one name in the draft
that I'm looking at right now. Remember the Packers now
have the Raiders one and two this year, so they

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got two ones, two twos. Uh. Chris A Love at
Ohio State thirty two touchdowns he scored in his last
thirty three games at Ohio State. Now, there's a lot
of ways that can go. I mean, you could still
try to sign a free agent. I don't know Adell Beckham,
you don't know what his future is. There's a few
wide receivers out there, Juleo Jones, a couple of guys

(35:10):
that have names on the downside of their careers. You
could make a trade with this draft capital, or you
just go to the draft and you know Lobby is
one of those guys. You say, well, by the way,
the last time the Packers drafted a quarterback a wide
receiver in the first round, Sterling sharp uh Under the
best in the game. That was way back in I

(35:30):
remember when they drafted James Loft in the Hall of
Famer in the first round. So they had some success
drafting wide receivers. So which way should the Packers go? Boy? Um,
all right, So you can draft and you could get
lucky like the Vikings did. For example, we traded uh
Digs to the Bills and then went back into the

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draft and got Jefferson in the first round. If you
remember that, that that video goes viral pretty consistently of
the Vikings front office celebrating the fact that the Eagles
took Jalen Reagor with the pick ahead of the Vikings
and they were able to snatch up Jefferson and it
was a steel for them where they were drafting, and
he's been a Pro bowler and an incredible threat offensively

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in that division in the league. So is it possible, Yeah,
it's possible to go into the drafting yet of first
round talent with all those picks you have now. But
here's the thing. I like the idea of if it's
possible with their cap situation, which I'm not sure if
it is, if it's possible to trade for a DK Metcalf,

(36:36):
if it's possible to trade for a Brandon Cooks, who,
by the way, has had back to back thousand yard
receiving uh years with the Texans now and who's been
throwing the football to him, you know, it's your Davis Mills.
I mean, he's he's a talented receiver still even though
he's twenty eight. I want to say. I mean, there's

(36:57):
there's town around the league you could trade for and
have somebody who can jump right in and Aaron Rodgers
isn't gonna get frustrated with trying to catch up with him.
I just feel like Aaron Rodgers is like a Tom Brady.
Tom Brady made stars out of a lot of receivers
that would not have been stars had Tom Brady and
up in their quarterback. And I believe now Davante Adams

(37:18):
look was a super talent. He was a super talent
in college. He's a super talent in the NFL. But
I believe that Aaron Rodgers I'm intrigued by. I mean again,
right now, the Packers are sitting at number twenty two
overall in the draft, and I have seen a love
a and a lot of these updated mock drafts sitting
there at twenty two for the Packers if they so
choose to take him. But I just feel like he'll

(37:41):
figure it out, right. I mean, when you have a
quarterback that in terms of throwing the football arguably is
the greatest of all time in just terms of actually
throwing the like a surgeon. We were talking about this
this week on our radio show Steve, you know in
San Diego, and when you watch Tom Radi and you
watch guys like Aaron Rodgers, and you watch. You know,

(38:03):
just guys who just know where to go with the
football and have the capability to deliver it in time
to the correct shoulder, to the correct angle so their
receiver has the best chance to catch it. It's so rare,
and Aaron Rodgers has that. So to your point, listen,
is it possible that Chris Alavia or any of one
of these you know, star receivers in this draft could

(38:25):
come in and Aaron Rodgers can make them look right
and fit them into the offense. Yeah, there's no doubt.
But a veteran seems like the better idea when you're
in a team in a win now situation like the
Packers should be next season as well. My guess is
they draft a receiver, and they acquire receiver, they got
the draft capital, they could make some moves right now.
One thing that will not happen because immediately with Davante

(38:48):
adas being Trader Raiders that were circulating rumors, Okay, Aaron
Rodgers will retire. He's not going to retire. In fact, now,
Aaron Rodgers is making it clear he was aware of
the situation with Davant Adams before he agreed to his
deal with the Packers. So he's gonna be a Green
Bay Packer. He's gonna stay as their quarterback. The only

(39:08):
question is who is he going to throw the ball to? Uh?
Coming in two? All right, I'm gonna say the story
for the other side because there is an emerging story
at a Major league baseball and it has to do
with social media. I don't want to spoil it yet,
but you know it's amazing, isn't it. Now? Rich with

(39:29):
how much social media controls the narrative in sports just
everything that it is everything, it's it's where the news breaks. Yeah,
I mean, you got these insiders and he got all
the people have the breaking news, and social media then
takes over and controls the narratives. So coming up, we'll
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go on the second half. Kansas the one seed clinging
to a one point lead over the nine seed Craton.
So we'll continue to update you on that game coming

(40:37):
up here in less than an hour. Number eleven seed
Michigan taken on Tennessee. That is a second round UH
South Region game. And then out in the Midwest Region
Providence taken on. I keep saying Iowa, Richmond, Richmond, Richmond.
There there is Providence and Richmond's pilin. Yeah, there it

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is right there, all right. So a lot of college basketball,
you know, seven six more games today, six more games.
So we're gonna hunker down with all the college basketball,
all right. We're updated new on all the NFL news.
Major League Baseball, so a lot of deals being made
out there. But there is a developing Major League Baseball
story right now out of San Diego. So this was

(41:19):
a big story that Fernando Tatis Jr. Who, by the way,
after missing thirty two games last year due to a
shoulder problem, he had a COVID situation that kept him
out a few games, but a recurring shoulder problem that
he said after the season he would not have corrective
surgery on. He did not have surgery on that shoulder.

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He shows up at spring training Rich and he's taking
a few swings and he says, yeah, my wrist is
really sore. They're like, what's going on. He goes, well,
I had this incident. I jam my wrist. They took
X rays. Turns out he had a fractured risk had
surgery on it. He's gonna be out at least three months.
But here's the new twist on the story. Fernando Tantis Jr.

(42:06):
Has removed all mentioned of the Padres from his social
media outlets Instagram, Twitter, There's nothing I mean. His Twitter
account now says I'm a Dominican, Um I have a
sense here, Rich And going back to when he held
his UH talk with the media after it was disclosed

(42:27):
about this risk injury, they asked him what, like, when
did this incident happen? And his answer was which incident? Um?
I am getting a sense and understand the contract extension
that the Padres gave him. It was a fourteen year,
three forty million dollar extension fully guaranteed with no opt outs,

(42:48):
no opt outs in this deal. In other words, he
was under lock and key to the Padres for the
duration of this contract. But it seems to me right
now he wants out of this deal. He wants out
of this deal with the Padres, and he wants to
get back into free agency. Uh whatever. But it almost

(43:11):
seems like he's doing everything to get out of San
Diego right now. Well, alright, so just to clarify, he
scrubbed his Instagram account. Um, and his Twitter account still
says shortstop for the San Diego Padres organization. Uh in
his bios, so he has still all of his Padres

(43:33):
you know. The bio banner still has him in the
Padre's uniform. His Twitter picture has him in the Padre's uniform.
It's just when you go to his Instagram account where
everything has been scrubbed. What's interesting about that is whether
he ends up changing his Twitter account or not. It

(43:53):
could be read one of two ways, right. It could
be read that he's just upset momentarily about the situation
as it has occurred, and he's sending a strong message
back to the organization, like listen, you guys think that
you have all the leverage because I made a mistake
this offseason riding a motorcycle, and yeah, you could avoided

(44:14):
my contract. And everybody's talking to me like I'm I'm
the child in this room. But let's be very clear,
I have leverage to very easily I can turn the
tide against you, and so it just might be a
leverage play. It might just be one of those situations
where there's a little bit of a disagreement going on
behind the scenes how to handle what's next whatever. Right now,

(44:38):
you want to dig a little deeper and say, okay,
well we've seen this before. Russell Wilson did this on
his Twitter account. He took all he took down a
bunch of Seahawks pictures and then he's traded to the
Denver broncos Kyler Murray did it um on his Instagram account,
removing all of his Cardinals UH pictures, and all of
a sudden, his agent puts out a one page letter

(44:59):
describing how much winning he has brought to Arizona. And
it seems at least it's gone quiet for now, but
you you know, an extension is going to be figured
out between the two sides, so sometimes it can be impactful.
What way do you read it? Do you really think
that Fernando Tatis Jr. Is trying to get out of
this this thirteen years he has left on this deal. Well,

(45:22):
here here's the deal that I'm thinking right now. Again,
we we've talked about this during the week as soon
as this came down, and if I were the Padres
organization understanding, there are no opt outs in this deal.
That's why they gave him the deal. Well, fine, we
will extend you fourteen years, fully guaranteed three and forty
million dollars, but you're not going anywhere. You're gonna be

(45:42):
a San Diego Padre now. And I feel like at
the moment that gave the Podres some leverage, Like you're
sitting there saying, look, you're not going anywhere you need
to if you pull this crap again, where you know,
you're out there being reckless and being young or stupid
or whatever you want to say, injuring yourself in non
baseball related uh injuries, which by the way, can avoid

(46:06):
the contract. They can they can legally avoid his contract immediately.
They can prove when it happened, well, you know, he's
not even denying it. He's saying that he injured his
wrist in an incident with a motor side. But that aside.
The fact is they could avoid his contract now. They're
not going to now. But if I were the pod Raise,
I'd step in say, look at if you do this again,

(46:26):
that contracts a goner um. And I don't know at
the time I would think that would be a threat.
I mean, it's still three million guaranteed for a guy
that refuses to get you know, surgery on his shoulder
which keeps popping in and out, which limits his time.
I don't know what how much marketability. Is obviously one
of the biggest stars in baseball right now, so I

(46:47):
don't know. Maybe he's also thinking to himself, after the
collapse of the Padres last year, losing thirty four of
the last forty five, maybe this team isn't as sexy
as I thought it was coming off the shortened sea.
Somewhere they made some noise and got into the post.
His future best served in San Diego? Or could Fernando

(47:08):
be better served in one of the bigger markets. Well,
let's brought in the argument a little bit and talk
about what what this is and how it's been changing
the way sports are dealt with in the off seasons overall.
I mean, typically we don't see when there's a star
player who's discontented with his organization, right, you know, and

(47:29):
this has happened many times in the past. I mean,
this has been happening, um ever since there was free
agency or the ability to enact your own trade, essentially
by talking about your displeasure. It's a story is all
the sports. And so it used to be you had
to have a buddy who was a beat writer who
covered the team, or maybe had a buddy who was

(47:51):
a national writer, or maybe your agent had had some
friends on the media side who could help push the
narrative out there that that you really are the victim
here and and you know, get the general public support,
especially those fans of the team or the fans of
the team that you're planning on going to to get
behind you. Nowadays, you don't have to do that. You

(48:11):
don't need the media support because you are the media.
Fernando Tatis Jr. Has as many or more followers than
the Padres do on Instagram or Twitter, you know, so
if he if he wants out right, if he wants
to force a trade, if he wants to find a
way to maybe have the Padres come back to the
negotiating table and rework this deal and and have a

(48:34):
different language in it. Who knows what the reasons behind
him scrubbing his social media account or any of these
athletes doing it. All of a sudden, it starts the
conversation where there was no conversation. Now it is publicly
known that there's some level of displeasure. Now I'm curious
to see what happens with this specific example. But Steve Overall,

(48:55):
do you think this is the right way to do business?
I know it's the way it's being done, but in sports,
I mean, do you think it's it's the right way
to do business? Putting out all the laundry on main Street,
allowing the fans to see everything and to have the
public react to it while you're discussing tens of millions
of dollars in the balance behind the scenes. Well, again,

(49:16):
what you're trying to do is get conversation started. So
where are the fans gonna lie? Now? We have to admit.
In San Diego, after the Fernando injury was announced, he
didn't have a lot of fans out there. Suddenly a
lot of people were jumping off the Tots bandwagon saying
he should have been more forthcoming about this. He needs

(49:37):
to take more responsibility. He needs to grow up. He's
got a three and forty million dollar contract. He owes
the pod Rays, he owes Masic League Baseball. I mean,
he is one of the biggest stars of all of
Major League Baseball right now. So I don't know where
he's expecting this to go. Now, understand this, the kind
of injury has had, and you have knowledge of this injury,
quickly explain what it is. Because he had a bone

(49:59):
g So what exactly is this injury? What kind of
timetable are we looking at? Well, with a bone graft,
you're talking about a longer timetable than if it was
just a scaphoid fracture. That's the little bone that was
broken or fractured inside his wrist. Look, this is the
same with your foot. Anybody who's ever broken a bone
in their foot, anybody has ever broken a bone in

(50:21):
their wrist, you know, whether falling down, you know, on
roller skates or roller blades or ice skating, I mean skiing.
Wrist injuries are really common in those leisure activities, and
people know this like it's a it's a really long
recovery when it's a fresh break and it's a fresh surgery.
What can happen, though, is because it is such a

(50:41):
small bone, if it's injured, if it's fractured, the blood
supply could be cut off to a portion of it,
and then you have to put in a brone graft
and hope that it all mends together and all the
parts play nice together. And then that increases the recovery
time by a long bye, by much longer amount, you know,
widens the aperture to maybe potentially the Padres who are

(51:05):
expected to have one of the better seasons this year
out of the National League, may not have their star
shortstop who's owed a portion of a billion dollars over
the next you know, decade plus until after the All
Star break. That's what you could be looking at, if
you're you're looking at the situation as it pertains to
him specifically, Well, I I go back to the Kawhi

(51:27):
Leonard injury in San Antonio. Remember that was that early
season injury, was the thigh contusion or whatever it was,
it was quadriceps right, and and it kept him out
as unexpectedly the entire year. The most people expect that
he'd be back maybe later in the year, maybe for
a playoff run. It kept him out the entire year,

(51:50):
and then the question was, well, does he really want
to stay in San Antonio, and the Spurs ended up
dealing him to Toronto. The rest was history out there.
Look that I can tell you this, the Hudreys are
not gonna trade Fernando Tatis Jr. No way, no chance,
no how So they're gonna have to figure this whole
thing out. So I don't know what if there's gonna
be separation on the sides where there's a little back

(52:12):
and forth about maybe they did tell him, you know what,
now that you've had this rich injury, how about that shoulder,
can we take care of that? And maybe he wasn't
happy with that. So there could be a lot of reasons.
I'm sure all pan out and we'll we'll find out
more coming up here shortly. All right, we got a
lot more news for you out there, including an update
as Kansas is leading Creighton st. Nine minutes ago in

(52:35):
the second half there. We'll continue on though, because there
are some stories out of Major League Baseball right now
in terms of deals done. And by the way, what's
up with the Dodgers. Are they ridiculous or what? Maybe
not as good as you think. We'll explain coming up next.
Steve Harman a rich Armburger, Fox Sports Saturday, Kansas leading

(53:01):
crighton sixties six, is sixty eight to go in the
second half of the nine seed, creating hanging in there
against the number one seed Kansas, although the second half
that lead has been pretty steady, pretty steady right there.
Um as far as uh Cranton's at the free throw
line right now. So we'll continue to update you on
this game. Uh As We're got one number one seed

(53:24):
already gone today Baylor losing to North Carolina. Now another
one hanging on in Kansas. Richard, I want to stay
with major League Baseball here for a second, because the
Dodgers made the deal this week to get Freddie Freeman,
and immediately everyone was talking about what they think is
like the greatest batting order in the history of Major
League Baseball with the addition of the d h in

(53:45):
the National League. So right now you're looking at a
Dodger team around the infield where they have Freddie Freeman
at first, Chris Taylor at second, Trade Turner at shortstop,
Justin Turner at third. Your outfielders are A J. Paul,
Cody Bellinger, Mookie Bets, and your catchers Will Smith and
your d H S Max Munsey. So people are just

(54:08):
saying one through nine that is as good a line
up as you're ever gonna see. And then I'm like, well, whoa, whoa, whoaa.
Let's let's let's hold on a little bit now. If
you think of these nine guys right in terms of
like their best seasons ever, Yeah, Mookie Bets is coming
off the worst offensive season of his entire Major League
Baseball career. Cody Bellinger's coming off a year and hit

(54:31):
which he hit one sixty. He was the worst hitter
in all of Major League Baseball. He got Justin Turner
coming back at age thirty seven. You have Trade Turner,
who disappeared in the postseason for the Dodgers. Is Chris
Taylor gonna match the kind of numbers he had a
year ago? Is A J. Pollock? Uh? And Freddie Freeman.

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So I mean, I'm looking at this team, plus the
fact there are a lot of questions with the Dodgers pictures.
You may have missed this. Kenley Jansen, the longtime closer,
is now an Atlanta Brave trying and they say will
not be moved into that closer role. Where's your starting
pitching right now? You've got Walker, Bueller, You've got your EUS,
and then you got you know, Kershaw coming off an

(55:14):
injury one more year? Does he still have it after that?
You got question marks? So I'm saying this, Potentially the
Dodgers could be as good as advertise, but I would
hit the brakes a little bit right now because they
still need a lot of things to go right for
everyone to just anoint them as this year's World Series champion. Yeah.

(55:35):
I understand what you're saying, but I I hardly agree
with the thought process that because you know, Turner had
an UH a less than proportion, it can con UH
compared to his career statistics a lesser than post season
because Ballinger had a down here and Bets at a

(55:56):
down year, that that's going to be the case next season.
You know. I mean, averages are what averages are, and
they are averages because it means on average, these players
are superb hitters now you can anybody have a down year? Yeah?
Can you have multiple players have a down year the
same year? Yeah? The likelihood when we're talking about all

(56:18):
Star caliber or you know, second team all Star caliber
players having back to back down years, I I have
a hard time making sense of that, especially when you
know you're coming off of a year where maybe you
had some depressed statistics. And plus, by the way, I mean,
when you're supported by as talented of a pitching staff

(56:41):
as the Dodgers have, you know, there's ways to get
yourself right even when things aren't going right with you
in the visually, because the potentiality is they're still gonna
be winning a whole bunch of baseball games anyway. So
I don't know, man, I look, the Dodgers on paper
are very scary team. I guess you're right. I guess

(57:03):
we have to play out the season to see if
they make the postseason, to see if they win the
NL West. But if you had money to put on it,
are you telling me you would pick any of the
other NL West teams over the Dodgers. Well, I tell
you I'm a nationally team. I might take over the Dodgers,
and that's the Braves. I mean they made the deal
in the off season to replace it's just won the

(57:23):
World Series of I mean, like I'm saying out of
their division, well out of their division. No, But I
mean people were talking the Dodgers like they just won
the World Series. Yeah, but they have. But look, I
mean the first order of business every year is to
win your Are they better than the Giants? Yes? I
I look at everyone is I guarantee ten, fifteen, twenty years.
Even now people are looking back in the Giants in

(57:45):
one like, how did this team win? I do agree
with that games. I mean, it's one of the most
miracle seasons in Major League Baseball history that that team
won a hundred and seven games. It just does not happen.
So no, I the Dodgers are the class of the
National League West, no question about that, especially with that

(58:06):
Fernando injury taken him out at least half a season
for the Padres. But I look at overall in the
National League, Matt Olson is going to be the new
first baseman for the Brace. Look at the numbers he
had in Oakland. I don't think there's gonna be a
huge drop off there. The Kenley Kenny Jansen. Oh, that's right,
they're gonna get a coun your back for a full season.
Their Bets player was out for half the season last year.

(58:29):
So I the way I look at the order right
now in the National League, and by the way, the
Mets of the other team with the additional shots are like,
you know, you got shots are in group. Let let's
just start right there right when when you got Serzer
and de Graham in your rotation. What that does, assuming
both stay healthy, it prevents long losing streaks. Okay, the

(58:53):
idea that both those guys would lose back to back
games seems far fetched. Um, so the Mets are gonna
hang there in there as well. Um But I I
just I I look at the Dodgers, I'm I'm very
curious about well Bellinger especially now I look decent in
the postseason. But this guy was m v P a
couple of years ago. He had one sixty five, had

(59:14):
the lowest batting average in the entire major leagues And
was Mookie season just an anomaly as great a players?
Mookie Bets is second highest paid player in all the
Major League Baseball? What was that? What happened last year?
Where was he all season long. I mean, what's what's
wild though, is even for like a down year for

(59:36):
Mookie Betts. He wasn't. It wasn't like a complete complete disaster.
I mean it was a disaster per the type of
player he was, you know, But can I can I
can I explain it? No? But can I promise you
or or guarantee you um that he's gonna play better
next season? I could give you the closest thing to
that because of the type of exceptional player he has

(59:58):
been throughout entirety of his career outside of last year,
which when you look at his slash line, it wasn't.
It wasn't an absurd year. It was. It was very meaning.
But but per Mookie Batts, it was about as average
as he could look as a ballplayer. Yeah, so well,
we'll see. I mean that's why they played the season.
And the good news, of course, obviously we will have

(01:00:19):
a Major League Baseball season. It's great to have the
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find out what's trending right now. We welcome back Mr
David Gascott. Did you get your brackets in? No? And

(01:01:05):
neither did I. For some reason, I tried to sign
in and it wasn't working. I don't know what happened there.
So I apologize. People would love me because my brackets
are so bad. You would have just said, oh, well
I beat hart Man. There you go. Well that really
is insane. I thought anything, not a huge bracket guy anymore. Wow.

(01:01:28):
Ever since the incident, make more money taking a few
games on my own, and we got this brackett. Have
you played any games so far? I have. I had
Murray State yesterday. I had them the money line the
second half over, I had them in overtime. I had

(01:01:49):
Indiana the playing game against Wyoming that second half not
a problem. I had U c l A. You did,
I did. I did on Nankee, I had alive. I
took a live bed on them when they were losing.
I just had the money length for them to win
the game. But I'll tell you what, I didn't have
a good feeling about that game. I didn't either. It
didn't it didn't look like I was. I was already

(01:02:12):
about to put out the tweet. I was serious. I
had something in my mind along the lines of, well,
the basketball gods have repaid U c l A for
their miracle run in last year's tournament. Yeah, I do. Uh,
I do like the fact that we are we are
diverse here. So I do have something on Oklahoma women's
basketball today. So nice since some stuff all around the places.

(01:02:36):
Uh um, Yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of confused
and baffled on all this. It makes it everyone's making
sound the Dodgers this season like the nineteen seven Yankees. Well,
I mean, if all of these guys hit to what
we've seen in the past. But the answer is yeah,
you have to be fair when you say that, because
they're not going against they're not going against like Smoltz

(01:02:56):
and Glavit and Maddics of like the nineties Braves. It's
the actually West, Like, what what team has five starters
or even four starters. I'll give you the Podres right now,
if if if you go by the Dodgers lineup at
their best, If you go out the Podres five man
rotation at their best, Garbage, Snell, must Grove, Clevinger, and Paddock.

(01:03:17):
That's that's a pretty good five guy rotation. San Francisco
is gonna be okay. Colorado noo, Arizona absolutely not. By
the way, people are saying this about Colorado. So you
didn't want to give Aeronado all that money and you
turn around you give Chris bryan was two million. That's wild.

(01:03:37):
That is an outrageous turnaround. We're talking about a year
apart Geronado to Brian playing the same position with about
the same number of All Star visits. Aeronaut is a
better player than Chris Bryant. Why wouldn't you pay Eronado
and give all that money to Chris Bryant? The hell knows?
That is wild? And the one guy you guys, you
know obviously the team you're talking about the offense, But

(01:03:59):
what happened with Trevor Bauer. Well, that is the big question.
I mean still don't know right now. The Dodgers have
three starters, and then you have the question mark on Gonselin.
Obviously May is out for a while. We don't know
when he's coming back. Is there life left in David Price?
Are you gonna still throw him out there? Um? So?

(01:04:21):
And then Trevor Bauer, I don't. I just can't imagine
the Dodgers coming back, Trevor Bauer, even if he's cleared. Yeah,
I just don't see it. Yeah, it's it's wild. Of course. Well,
we see San Diego used Blake Snell longer than five
innings a game this year. That does not I don't
really could. But in the second half the season, man,

(01:04:44):
he was dynamite. First half he was garbage. Yeah, but
I mean he'sage clip in the second half. So and
then Clevinger, I mean out for another year. Another Tommy
John surgery. Not good, guys. Kansas was pulling away, climbed
back into it and they're only down by one. See

(01:05:06):
hundred and one seconds to go in this game. Um,
that's the game. It's only going on right now. Michigan
Tennessee's following this one, Baylor in North Carolina went a
little long. That's why this one's extended a bit. North
Carolina waned overtime beating Bailor eighties six R J. Davis
at thirty points, and that one Providence in Richmond at
six ten Eastern St. Mary's usually follows that one up

(01:05:28):
in Zagon Memphis is the nightcap Bucks and Timberwolves Minnesota
leading right down to twenty and that affair, and then
of course Matthew Stafford the National Football It was the
headliner today, four year extension with the Rams sixty million
dollars one five and guaranteed cash. Did I remind you
I don't know if you guys know this, but when
the tournament opened up on Tuesday and Wednesday with the

(01:05:50):
playing games like the thought of having a couple of
teams and it was nice and a lot of the
ranting and raving was either out of the SEC and
the big ten IOWA failed to adv antswer the sick
around of the n C Double A tournament. I don't
know if you guys knew that. They looked awful and
they're opening around lost Tom They looked pathetic. They need
to be contracted Division one rankings. Like, just, by the way,

(01:06:11):
did you guys see that block that that LSU player
had on on that Iowa State player and he just
ascended to the heavens and blocked that shot. Incredible. Oh my,
Crton just turned the ball over. They had a chance
to take the lead and they threw the ball away.
Kansas on a layup ups the lead seventy seventy two,

(01:06:32):
So it was a one point game. Craton had the
ball and they got sloppy. Now they're gonna call it
time out. Forty nine point four seconds ago Craton trailing
by three. Wow, Cansas was on the ropes. By the way, Iowa, Sam,
I have one more thing. Yes, I will maybe out
of the tournament. But you did see that a late shot.

(01:06:54):
U c l A had to squeeze out a little
bit of a margin against Acharan, Right, you know who
dropped three pointer. It was a man by the name
of Tiger Campbell Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Yeah. Well there's the
reason why he's not in Iowa anymore. We're happy to
have him. He was the reason they were able to

(01:07:15):
squeeze out a win. Five in advance no style points
in the n c A tournament. Just style points out
the window. All right, So we'll continue update you on
this Kansas great game again, time out. Creton has the
ball right now, forty nine seconds ago, Kansas leading seventy
two is a bad pass. He's I love March Madness.

(01:07:35):
This year had nothing but these shoe string games come
down to the wire. This is another example. I mean,
Kansas has had multiple leads at or over ten points
and just crighton. I mean, they're sticky, man, They're just
finding a way to stay in this game. And they
have one last well probably not last possession. All right,
hold on right now, they're just trying to not throw

(01:07:56):
the ball away again. So Greaton has the ball. They
have the ball right now, the clock is again I
don't know play by play, but I'm just gonna update
you on this game without doing play by play. Creighton
still has the ball, and they got a layup and
the layup is blocked by Kansas. Blocked by Kansas. They
got the ball foul on Creighton. So Kansas three point lead,
thirty one seconds to go, and the Jayhawks will go

(01:08:18):
to the free throw line, high pressure free throws. Right there,
all there's a clean block right there. That is uh
clean block, So crighton hanging in there. But it looks
like Kansas right now. I say that, and gotta make
your free throws. That is another big play in these
n s A Tournament games. We were talking about this

(01:08:39):
rich about You're reminded again these are young guys, eighteen
ninety one year olds out there playing on the big stage,
the bright lights. Some kids respond and they're as cool
as ice. Others wilt under pressure. So I always keep
that in mind. One word I never use when it
comes to college athletics and was football, basketball, whatever it

(01:09:02):
might be, is the word choke. I just I don't
think it's a fair word at the collegiate level. Now,
if you're a professional, all bets it off. I'll say anything,
and I've used that many many times. But when you um,
when you talk about the college ranks, Kansas made both
free throws three pointed. By creating his off clock. Is
taking down another three point attempt is off and that

(01:09:22):
is going to be it. Uh So another foul. Kansas
has a five point leads seventeen seconds ago, they go
to the free throw line. But you are a college
athlete at the highest level. All American at Penn State,
and you know the difference with team being a college
athlete and the pressures that you faced as opposed to
what it is once you get to the professional level. Yeah,

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and they are different, but they are similar in certain ways.
Because if you're going to imagine a more avid fan
base than there were um at the games in Beaver
Stadium when I was a Penn State football player, I'd
argue that I never saw the likes of it at
the professional level. So I'm talking about live buttson seats,

(01:10:06):
hundreds of thousands of people. Plus how many NFL games
did you play in front of over a hundred thousand fans?
I think only one at Wimbley Stadium? Oh you did?
They had over a hundred at Wembley that day. Maybe
the Yeah, i'll look that one up. Twenty what was it,

(01:10:26):
twenty two thousand nine? Maybe it was my room? Ye here,
all right, I'll check it out, but go ahead. Yeah,
I don't know what the capacity at Wembley was, but
it was a sellout and it was jammed to the rafters.
But but that was the largest cloud crowd I think
I ever played in front of in my professional career.
During my college days. You go to the horseshoe at
Ohio State, as I mentioned at Beaver Stadium where I

(01:10:48):
played at home over a hundred thousand hold on here
it is the the tenants was eight two thousand two. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I guess Wembley is a smaller stadium than some of
the other soccer stadiums. But my point being the big
house in Michigan. Um, you know there there are plenty
of venues in college football that house over a hundred

(01:11:10):
thousand people. So there is atmosphere. There are plenty of
arenas around college basketball, and I mean you can point
to many of them. Kentucky, uh Duke, U n c
v A has arena with San Diego stay Polly Pavilion.
When U c l A has any kind of decent team,
I mean there's many of these college blue bloods. Gonzaga

(01:11:32):
packs their house. I mean, you you have this atmosphere
that creates real pressure and certain players able to rise
up to that challenge and a lot of players aren't.
And guess what, it's survival of the fittest at that
level too. So yeah, I know their kids, I know
they're eighteen and nineteen year olds in in certain cases
playing in these really impactful games, especially during the tournament.

(01:11:54):
And I know that you know many of them won't
play professional basketball, but I do think there are times
where we give UM professional athletes too much credit, like
there they should be able to handle all the situations
that are thrown at them because they're professionals, and we
don't give UM college athletes enough of enough of the blame,

(01:12:16):
so to speak, because look, I mean, what what separates
a college player playing in the tournament then months later
being in the n b A Absolutely nothing? I mean
what three months of growth and maturity? I think I
I think my perspective on it is different, just having
kids of that age, because anyone I put it this way.
When I was twenty one years old, right and I

(01:12:38):
was the sports editor of the u c L. A
Daily Bruin, and I look back and I think, wow,
I was doing quite a bit when I was twenty
one years old. But I now look back on him like, wow, Okay,
I was a kid, um, And then I look at
my own kids right now. I don't know, I just
I mean, I believe me, I've wanted to scream many times,
especially when it comes to U c L. A choke,
choke you know this, that and everything else. But I

(01:13:00):
don't know, maybe my perspective on these kids are old
enough to go to war, I understand, you know what
I mean, they're old enough to vote. I you know,
I still and then and then has beaten great in
seventy How many NBA players who are nineteen years old
have you felt comfortable? I don't know. You got a paycheck,
then it's fair game. These guys are getting paychecks now,

(01:13:20):
Steve n I l okay, So now now I can
call him chokers. I'm just saying it's just weird how
we draw this distinction between college athletes and professionals. Felt yeah,
I mean how much argument? Because where where are you
drawing the line? Then that's what's unclear about it? Well,
and when again the term choker? Right? If you if

(01:13:44):
you got a shot and you miss, with the game
on the line, whatever it is, and you miss, you're
a choker, right and if you make it. I don't
use that word. I mean, if you want to use
that word to describe have you ever, like any point
of year athletic cree you choked? Oh yeah? Big for you?
Oh well, I wouldn't say that I don't ever have

(01:14:06):
a coach. Did you remember? I think I've had games
where I felt like I didn't play well, But it
wasn't because the moment felt too big for me. I
think it was more. It was more because you have
a bad day at the wrong time. You know, you
never had a coach getting your face and said, all right, Burger,
you're a stick and choker. No, no, I didn't think

(01:14:27):
it's okay. Uh. Coming up on the other side, much
more on the march madness, and yes, the revolving door
of quarterbacks. We only touched on it earlier. What is
the fate of Jimmy Garoppolo? Baker Mayfield? I guess is
on deck for the next deal. But what about Garoppolo?
We're gonna tell you coming up next, Steve Harman, Rich

(01:14:54):
Armburger here Fox Sports Saturday. All right, let's get to
the Jimmy Garoppolos situation here quickly. Rich. We were talking
earlier about Baker Mayfield. We're not quite sure which direction
he's gonna go. I agree with you. The idea that
the brands that trade him to the Colts, even if
that's the place he wants to go, seems far fetch.
Are we still a hundred percent certain that the forty

(01:15:16):
Niners are actually gonna trade Jimmy Garoppolo. Uh, if they can,
they will. I don't know if they can because they're
struggling to move him, especially after having shoulder surgery on
his throwing side. Um. I don't know what they're asking
price for Jimmy was prior to his shoulder surgery, but
I would imagine that there would have been a lot

(01:15:38):
of teams willing to spend some draft capital to bring
Jimmy in and then to have their doctors evaluate the
shoulder and to feel more comfortable about the trade, etcetera,
etcetera before consummating the deal. Um. You know, But for
whatever reason, it didn't happen that way. And so I
just think that the forty Niners may have overplayed the hand.

(01:16:03):
And you know, even if they don't want Jimmy's contract,
even if they don't really want Jimmy to be the
guy next season, they wanted to transition to Trey Lance.
They may have no other choice than to either a
start the season with Trey Lance being the starter and
Jimmy Garoppolo being the emergency plan, or be have Jimmy

(01:16:24):
go at it again for one last season. By the way,
I've been looking at some of the mock drafts updated constantly.
Quarterbacks are dropping. They're not rising, They're dropping right now. Um,
I've saw a couple of mock drafts saying no quarterbacks
not only in the top ten, none in the top fifteen.
Could be the Saints at eighteen before we see a

(01:16:45):
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(01:17:08):
Radio's million dollar Bracket Challenge powered by Indeed. So indeed,
if these uh quarterbacks are dropping in the draft, that
probably would help the stock of a guy like Jimmy Garoppolo.
I know this. If I were the forty Niners and
somebody throws out at number two, I'm making the trade. Now,
you mean a second round, second round pick. I would
I would make the deal in a heartbeat. Oh yeah, yeah.

(01:17:30):
And and that's what I think they were probably hoping for,
but weren't getting from teams. That's my guests. Look, they
they essentially would be getting there. Like you know, say
you go to a hardware store and you buy a
lawnmower and you use it once and you return it,
and it's not like they're gonna say, yeah, but hey, listen,

(01:17:51):
you used it and this and that. Maybe you know,
maybe depending on the hardware store, but most likely they're
giving you even money back even though you brought it
home and used it. That's what the forty niners are
hoping for. They went to the hardware store called the
New England Patriots. They got themselves to Jimmy Garoppolo, and
they used them for a couple of years, and they're
looking to return him for even money now, not necessarily

(01:18:13):
to the New England Patriots, but one of the other
thirty teams out there besides themselves and the paths to
spin him off to. And I think they wanted a
second rounder in return. I don't think they're going to
be able to get that, because if they were maybe
they will, maybe if he has a completely clear bill
of health on the other side of the shoulder surgery.
It sounded relatively minor, but I mean you would be

(01:18:37):
buying damaged good, so to speak. So I think that's
the reason why a lot of teams balked and why
the forty Niners are in the situation they are. But
maybe this is a situation, Steve, that they wanted to
be in. Maybe they weren't entirely sure if they couldn't
get a second rounder that they were ready to move
on from Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, you're picked to win at all.

(01:18:57):
Tennessee is down eight to two. I just wanted to
match in that. Yeah, I mean it's eight still very early.
We've seen a lot of comebacks. We have an airball
way Tennessee. Tennessee, by the way, I agree, they should
have been on the two seed line, but they were
dropped to a three seed. But right now trailing Michigan
by score eight and two. All right, we got all
this march Man just going on right now. We'll continue
to update you on all the games, plus all the

(01:19:20):
break in NFL Major League baseball news coming up next.
Continuing on another Big Sports Saturday, Fox Sports Saturday, Steve
Hartban Rich Arnburger with you in the Fox Sports Radio studios.
All right, Game three of the day in the second
round of this n C Double A tournament, Michigan leading

(01:19:42):
Tennessee twelve to eight right now inside in fifteen minutes ago, uh,
in the first half. So we I mean, including this game,
We've got six more games to date. It's a lot
of college basketball. Eight more games tomorrow and then we're
down to the Sweet six team. Uh. As we are
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Like America's in love with March madness, I mean you
and I are in love with March madness, but America's
in love. Everyone's got their brackets out all this first week,

(01:20:24):
and some people will be throwing those brackets away by
the end of the weekend. Others will be saying, hey,
I got a chance here a couple more games, and
I might be winning some big money. But every time
I'm watching this you know tournament, it always takes me
back to college football. And I think when you look
at the pressure of these games, the one and done

(01:20:44):
element to these games, and you know you go through
this in in pro football where you have the playoffs
we have, you know, do or die, and you've been
through this process in your pro football career. But I
just every time I keep projecting this to college upball
and a very simple formula. You got ten FBS conferences,

(01:21:06):
you have ten conference champions, automatic qualifiers, you have six
at large bids, so all the top teams are gonna
be in there. But can you imagine going back to
your college days, like a Penn State where you guys
would have been part of something like that. How exciting
would have been. What kind of pressures would have been
in a play a true playoff format sixteen down to eight,

(01:21:30):
down to four, down to two and you crown a
national champion. How intense would that be for those in
college football? I mean it would be awesome. I I
it would be intense, of course, But a lot of
the games that you play in college football and you know,
I mean if especially if you're on a team these days, um,

(01:21:51):
with a chance to play for this this four teams
in for the national title. But even when I was playing,
when the you know, the champion of the conference was
decided based on who had the best record versus strength
of schedule and in conferences. You know, we were Big
Ten champs my senior year of Penn State, and it
was just because we had the best record in the

(01:22:12):
Big Ten. You know, we the big elite bowl games
were decided based on your strength of schedule and your record.
You know. Now it's very similar in the way they
choose the top four, but once you get there, then
it's who wins advances. Right. If you have a situation
where you widen this bracket to include conference champions, maybe

(01:22:34):
to have those six at large bids or however many
you want, it would it would be everything. It would
be an incredible step forward in making college football even
more consumable than it already is. And it's shocking to
me that they haven't expanded already. There's so much money
to be had. We're talking about a billion dollar industry

(01:22:55):
with this n c A basketball tournament, and it's so doable.
All ten conferences have a conference championship game, so there's
no question. It's just like the conference tournaments in basketball.
You win your conference tournament, you get the automatic bid,
but you have enough at large bids so no one
gets left out. You're still gonna get all the top

(01:23:16):
teams in there. What about the one versus six team
that's gonna be a blowout, Well, we have blowouts in
the n c A basketball tournament. Does it take away
from it? No, But then every once in a while
you get a stunner. Could happen in college football. Of course,
it could happen in college football where you get a
stunning upset and then the arguments always yeah, but then

(01:23:38):
if you got an upset, you may not get the
best teams in the end. Think about this again with
college basketball. In the last thirty eight n c a
A basketball tournaments, last thirty eight, the number one team
in the A people going into the tournament has gone
on to win the championship five times five at a

(01:24:00):
thirty eight years. No one knows that. All we know
at the end of it, hey boom, there's your champion.
It's the same thing in professional sports. Does the best
team during the regular season win the championship. No, it's
just the team that played the best when it counted
the most in the postseason. That's how you win a championship.

(01:24:22):
And and let me go a step further. You know
in the NFL where the Bengals the best team out
of the FC. Hell, no, the Bengals had serious problems.
They weren't even as good as the Chargers, who the
Chargers beat them. Chargers were a better team than the Bengals,
but they didn't even get to the playoffs exactly right,

(01:24:45):
They got knocked out in that game against the Raiders.
They advanced the Chargers, don't I mean it was a
shoe string win against the Raiders in the wild card round.
For the Bengals, it was a barely win against the
Titans to advance to the FC Championship game. I mean
it was a war uh that they had to come
back and win in the second half and overtime against

(01:25:07):
the Chiefs in the NFC Championship Game to make it
to the Super Bowl. I'm not saying they didn't deserve it.
They deserve to be in the Super Bowl. Guess why
because during their three playoff appearances, they somehow found a
way to survive in advance. They were the better team
on the days that they played the Raiders and the
Titans and the Chiefs respectively, and that's the reason why

(01:25:28):
they were in the Super Bowl. They weren't the best
team in the the f C. I'm pretty sure if
you got Zack Taylor or anybody in that organization in
a private moment, being completely honest, they'd be like, Oh, yeah,
the Chiefs are better. We just got you know, we
we go. We had a good day. They had a
bad day, especially at the end of that game. But
that's how football's played. It's sorted out on the field.

(01:25:50):
Why are we sorting out football in boardrooms with closed doors.
It doesn't. It's the only sport that does that. Every
other's board, every other level, whether it's college football, basket,
whatever sport you have the playoffs. The playoffs are not
an exact science. The best team doesn't always win. There

(01:26:12):
are upsets, which is the beauty of sports. The same
thing would happen with Division one football. You know, although
although you look at North Dakota State right they seemingly
win their playoffs every single year. Could that be the
case with an Alabama. I mean, it's if you had
had the playoffs over the last ten twelve years, how

(01:26:32):
many national championships would Alabama have won? Maybe they would
have won even more championships. Never know, it is possible
that they could get on a role. I mean U
C l A Basketball and your John would have won
seven tournaments in a row, seven in a row that
was all single elimination. It wasn't like they were playing

(01:26:53):
dog teams. They played teams that were really good and
somehow they won wall But I mean, could that Sure,
it could happen. But here's what I would like to see.
Here's what I would like to see, and this sounds
absolutely ridiculous, but but bear with me. What I would
like to see is college football go to the same
exact bracket that the NC Double A does without the

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first four. So you start with a field of sixt
four and then it goes because short is your regular season,
it's the same length. Well, now you're talking about potential
of seven postseason games or six six post seeds in
a six four team field, the last two teams will

(01:27:36):
have played six playoff games. Big deal, Big deal? What
we wait? What so you're saying you're gonna have a
twelve game regular season, which is where it is right now.
Are you still gonna have conference championship games? That's a
thirteenth game. You're gonna play nineteen games? Who when is
this going to end? I mean, I mean you start,

(01:27:57):
you start, you start the season two weeks earlier. Okay,
all right, I'm I'm trying to stay with you. Okay, alright,
I gave. Yeah, it's a twelve game regular season, you
have a conference championship game, and then you have a
field of sixty four with the teams that face off
in the final game having played their six playoff gain,
that's nineteen games. Go ahead, nineteen games. And here's the deal.

(01:28:20):
Is more than the NFL? I like it? You would? You? Well,
it's not more than NFL for a super Bowl team.
And also you remember in the NFL they still play
three preseason games. You're right right, games down the NFL
maybe twenty one games, alright, sure, yeah, twenty one games.
If you play in the wild card round, you win
the Super Bowl. Like if the Bengals would have that
would have been there if they did they did play,

(01:28:42):
So you you you you look at it from this standpoint,
are we asking too much of these college athletes? Well
maybe before they were able to make money off of
their likeness, But now college athletes Steve are going to
be making in certain cases more at their university than
they will at the professional level. How many times have

(01:29:03):
we seen it? A star running back at you name
it whatever, A and M Shoot, Stanford, Miami comes out
and he's a third round draft pick and he never really,
he never really just catches on and he plays one
contract and then he's selling insurance. But he could be
a stud as a Hurricane. He could be a stud

(01:29:23):
playing for the Cardinal and Stanford. Right, he could be
the biggest aggie of all time. From a rushing standpoint,
maybe he's making endorsement benefits all over the place as
a college athlete. You think he's gonna mind playing six
postseason games if he's got his name plastered all over
car dealerships in Texas while he's a college athlete and
getting millions of dollars. The answer is no. So that's

(01:29:43):
my point. Everything's changing. The whole paradigm has shifted. College
athletes in certain cases are going to make more as
college athletes than they will when they turn pro if
they turn pro. So why are we treating this like
it's amateur sports? Like nineteen games is too much. By
the way, there were forty four bowl games, including in

(01:30:04):
college football playoff. That's eight eight schools. Yeah, so you're
cutting the you're eliminating bowl games, which I agree. So
really you're going from a D eight down to sixty
four and I'm not I'm not eliminating the bowl games
because if you think about it, it's like like the
n I T every single one of these games. If
you're top sixty four teams, there's only teams and m

(01:30:26):
BF football. So if the top sixty four teams are
in the playoff, then you're really relegating the bowl games
to nothing. Well well, you're not doing bowl games anymore,
each one of these game games, that's the point. Well
well yeah, but technically it shifts to every single year
using the bowl games. Yes, yes, yes, So now these

(01:30:46):
games are gonna be played, some of them. I think,
like say the round of sixty four, round of thirty
two should be played on campuses. But then once you
get the sweet six team, that's when you start having
neutral ball side Alright, alright, I'm I'm hanging in there
with you. I get it. I feel like when you
say it's our if you eliminate the Bowl. Get there

(01:31:07):
were forty four Bowl games. That means there are eighty
eight Bowl teams. Forget a d and cut it to
sixty four and make a tournament. All right, I'm sort
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(01:31:52):
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(01:32:15):
joining us right now once again our Fox Sports Radio
NFL Insider serious xem NFL Adam Kaplan All right, Adam,
I know Rich and I have a lot of questions
for you, but I want to get one right out
of the way. Uh prediction, where will Baker Mayfield be
playing in two Well, Uh, I can tell you the

(01:32:35):
Indianapolis culture looking to find a quarterback. They're actually working
on something. We'll see if they acquire quarterback soon. But oh,
I would say with Mayfield the culture possibility. Um, you
gotta look at Seattle as well. Um, there's been shuffling
by the way of some backup quarterbacks within the last hour.
The quarterback Carusel has continued to churn here, no question

(01:32:57):
about in The other thing is, let's not forget Jimmy
Garoppolo is gonna have to be moved. Uh. The Niners
are still looking to do that, hopefully by the draft,
but if not before. So we've had an incredible week
of transactions really last two weeks, particularly this week, and uh,
the Watson stuff, he's finally gotten resolved, thank goodness. But yeah,
the Mayfield stuff now because of the Brown situation getting Watson,

(01:33:19):
which certainly did not look like it was gonna be
the case about three days ago, maybe two days ago. Uh, now,
now Mayfield has to be moved. Yeah, there's no question
about that. We'll see Baker shipped off somewhere. It's just
a matter of where and for how much in the interim.
You know, just as far as a philosophical thought that
I had about the NFL over the past two seasons,

(01:33:42):
you got Brady go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Year one,
he wins a Super Bowl. You got Stafford, he gets
traded to the Los Angeles Rams, he wins the Super
Bowl Year one with the Rams. Uh, we're we're. I
think the easy reach is, well, it's a weak draft
in terms of quarterbacks coming out, and that's the reason
why we're seeing all this QB movement. I say no,

(01:34:05):
I say it's it's what's been proven. If you have
an NFL veteran you can add to your already talented roster,
you could quickly win a Super Bowl. And it's been
proven in back to back years by the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers in the Rams. Would you agree with that? Yeah, Rich,
you know from playing with Brady um and no one
knows on Fox sport's right about and you do. When

(01:34:25):
you have an elite quarterback, it changes everything. It just
changes dynamic. It's why the Rams today extended the contract
of Stafford, which they had been working on for the
last week. They made the trade last year, really almost
at this time last year. It's amazing. Spent a year
to tell you they make that trade. They knew that,
it's amazing. They knew this was going to change the
dynamic of football team. They never bought into the narrative

(01:34:49):
that Stafford was unachiever. It wasn't as good. It's just
the talent around him. And if you put great talent
around uh, maybe a good, great, very good quarterback could
be he could become great. Now I could tell you,
like like talking the Panthers a good example. The Panthers
believe the roster is really good, and they made a
lot of mosy were sent a lot of players this week.
Now they were in the Deshaun Watson sweepsticks. They didn't

(01:35:10):
get them. There's other reasons why he didn't go there,
but the fact of the matter is they know their
quarterback away. And the thing is though, which is not
just the draft that people question, they're just we're gonna supply.
To man business, a quarterback demand is outliving supply right now.
There's just not enough quarterbacks available. That is the real
reason why you're seeing this movement. Russell Wilson has proclaimed

(01:35:34):
Adam that he is going to play ten to twelve
more years when three or four Super Bowls in Denver
and you look at this a f C West right now,
Rich and I were talking about, I mean, it is
conceivable that these are going to be the three wild
cards out of one division. I mean with the addition
of the Davante Adams. So the Raiders and the Chargers
making the additions they have on their defense. Kansas City

(01:35:55):
is Kansas City. Um, I got news to Russell Wilson
right now. It looks like he's still on the fourth
best team in that division. Well, I don't know about
the Raiders. I know they made the playoffs and that
was an incredible job by the former coaching staff and
the in fact, they almost beat the the the AMC
champion Bengals in the first round the playoffs. But the

(01:36:16):
Raiders defense, Um, you're not great. Chargers defense is horrendous.
That's why they've made all these moves this week. That
Patrick Mahomes, who still had a very good season the
second half of their playoff game was so we start
trying to figure that one out. But they'll be right there. Look,
Denver's defense is terriffic. Now they're they're gonna completely change it. Uh,
you know with Vick fan Joe has gone, but now

(01:36:37):
you put it still a very good quarterback and the questions.
By the way, here's the thing that how the league
sees this one, Russell Wilson. There are some people are
on the league guestbook with don't think Russell Wilson is
nearly as good as he used to be. Now, I
would argue, let's not forget broken finger last season. Okay,
he didn't play great before that, but he wanted to
be in an offense. We've talked about this now for

(01:36:57):
two years. My reporting on the situation was see out
on Russell Wilson. He just never wanted to be in
a run runner oriented offense. I mean, they're gonna run it,
but they they he wants to be in a place
where they're not going to throw the ball twenty five
times a game. They should throw at thirty three to
thirty five times a game. That is why he chose Denver.
By the way, it was his choice in the end.
This is this is part of the list that he
gave and he had a very small list, and then

(01:37:20):
he narrowed it down to Denver because he wanted a
coach that wanted to throw the football. And Nathaniel Hackett,
who's the head coach, is going to call the places
and they will throw the football. I mean, this is
you could take this question wherever you want. And there's
so many teams that added so much so recently. But
is there any team that stands head and shoulders above
the rest in terms of taking what roster they had

(01:37:42):
and really really elevating it during this frenzy of free
agency we've seen. Well, I'll rich I'm gonna take your
question in two ways. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you
the team that's really struggling. Dallas has had an awful
free agency. I hate to did ding teams like that,
but it's not the players they signed, it's the players
they lost or didn't sign or then and the rand
of Gregory situation was an absolute disaster. Um, I think

(01:38:05):
I'll tell you what, I think Denver has done really
really well. I like some of the moves that they've
made here, no question about it. I thought, I think
that not only Russell Wilson, but some of the other
players that they've added. I think Buffalo getting Von Miller.
You whyn't you ask people asked, if you're Bills fan,
why don't you ask their front office what they thought
of their pass rush? Uh during the playoffs it was

(01:38:27):
non existent. It didn't show up. So they're overpaying for
a thirty three year old pass rusher. Um, that that was.
I thought that was a pretty bold movement. And the
other part of Franchi, guys, I want to do want
to mention part of franchis resigning your own players. Do
not underestimate Isai Mackenzie, whos sort of a jack of
all trades receiver who really helped them down stretch. One
of the reasons why he wanted to go back, I'm
told us because he thought he would have a bigger role.

(01:38:48):
And don't forget Colt Beasley was cut the slot receiver,
so Mackenzie will have a bigger role. Yeah, so there's
just some of the teams. But I really thought Dallas,
I thought they really struggled, they really hurt themselves, and
you know what's on believable at that About the NFC East, guys,
we have not had a repeat champ in the NFC
East in almost twenty years. Two thousand three was the

(01:39:08):
last time we have that. When Philly one division back
to back. That is a long time. All right. I
want to read a tweet for you, Adam. It comes
from a rich Armburger. I'm gonna read this to you.
I'm going to read this to you. I want to
get your reaction. Rich warm Burger, Rich Armburger, I think
he works for us anyway, Um, he put this out.

(01:39:29):
He says, Calvin Ridley bet on his team to win
with an NFL partner sports Book, got a one year suspension.
Deshaun Watson is actively facing twenty two civil suits of
sexual assault and sexual misconduct fully guaranteed five year, two
thirty million dollar contract. Your reaction, I understand it. Look

(01:39:49):
not only riches tweet, but I've seen it. It's it's
it's players being fine for for for uh you wuder
form violations. It's you could go look at some of
the spenders that have been handed out. So I've been
rescented over the years, and then you have this where
it's not a question whether he's gonna get suspended at
some point Watson, it's gonna be for how many games?
And I'm talking to one of the teams that was

(01:40:10):
in it. They think it's gonna be six games. But yeah,
I get it. Um the gambling um situation for for
a year, look for years ridiculous. I mean, I agree
to me that one if we were if it was
our decision, if the three of us were making decision,
I'll give that sixty eight games. Because you can't. You
just can't do it as as an active player. You

(01:40:32):
just can't. It's just like a reporter. I don't. I
don't gamble in the NFL, and do I play fantasy football. Yeah,
there's a difference, but I wouldn't with the information that
I have. I just don't think it would be ready
to be a conflict of interest. We could all debate
that this is a great sports talk radio topic. I
understand it. I in social media, I see the angst
people think Watson should get should get at least a year,
But again it's civilly versus criminally is two different things.

(01:40:55):
We have to remember that. Yeah, I I look at
the situation. I just think that over time, the discipline
in the NFL has been inconsistent. I think that's that's
that's probably being kind. But in this particular situation when
you have, you know, a young receiver who made a
mistake in a situation with a quarterback, where again, like

(01:41:17):
you said, legally, we don't know what direction this is
heading in. It's just a bad look as it stands.
We'll see if they can correct it in the coming days, weeks, months,
We'll see. Uh. In terms of this draft coming up,
you know we mentioned it briefly. Do you think there
is going to be a quarterback, any quarterback out there
who could really surprise us as a result of what

(01:41:38):
we've seen, because it's really been downplayed and so nobody
is really comfortable anointing anybody yet. All right, So Rich,
a couple of things here, So on our our spots
here on Saturday and Saturday, I've said consistently since since November,
you better not need a quarterback. This is going to
be on paper historically week quarterback lass. But I will
tell you this much, you're gonna hear the name of

(01:41:58):
desbend Ritter the University Cincinnati or back got a very
good senior bowl week. He could have one of these
senior bowls where you know, he had a very good week.
He got in front of NFL people, he threw out
the combine. He's healthy, he's got a good arm. He
needs to put some weight on. That's a concern. They're
gonna be guys out of this class. When we look
at three or four years down the line, you go, wow,
I didn't think he'd be good. Like when Kirk Cousins

(01:42:20):
was drafting the fourth round in twelve. This is the
same draft where the where Washington took Robert mcque from
the third with their first pick, their first their their
first first rounder, and then they took Cousins in the
fourth round and Mike Shanahan, who had personnel control, got
grilled for it. So they're gonna be guys in this draft.
And we'll, you know, we'll talk about it more next
week because the fregency is gonna die as it always
does the second week. But they're gonna be some quarterbacks

(01:42:42):
in this draft. And uh Bailey's happy. He's another kid
out of Western Kentucky who's put up in two years
of most yardage and college football history. In terms of passing,
he's not He's not gonna we with arm strength. He's
an anticipator. Um, he's a little bit like he's a
worst case Matt Jones and Mac Jones was the first
round pick. You don't have Mac. Not that Mac Jones
has a good arm, but he's not as talent as

(01:43:03):
Matt Jones. But they're gonna be a couple of guys
where you go, wow, back you go, man, I didn't
think this guy would be good. It happens in every draft.
We they don't give the access to the results, but
they're gonna be things that people overlook. You know, it's
funny we beat this quarterback class up. It's it's funny
some of these quarterbacks said that. In fact, Kenny Pickett
said this, said the combine, some of these guys gonna
be way better than you think. Oh yeah, uh, it's

(01:43:26):
an amazing Adam that didn't the NFL season end? I don't,
I know, it isn't great. I could remember. Yeah, I
mean it has been insane. Every week just gets bigger
and bigger with News. Yeah, one thing I want to
ask you guys, because I was asked this question, I said,
Davante Adams, what was your biggest surprise so far in
free agency? Biggest surprise that I'm very curious as you guys,

(01:43:48):
as fans of the business, that one caught me off guard. Um.
I will say this the fact that all of a
sudden the tide shifted, because I mean, you heard all
the reports that the Browns were elimined. They were a
late add to the Deshaun Watson trade conversation anyways, and
then they were eliminated just as quickly as they became
a part of the conversation, and then within hours it

(01:44:09):
felt like that that I think was the biggest surprise
for me. I I think the biggest offseason surprise to
me has been the Chargers because traditionally they don't make
a lot of moves, and they made a couple of
big moves on the defensive side of the football. So
that's the kind of commitment from that ownership that I've
even seen like ever. I know, I know, I know

(01:44:30):
you're closer that situation. I'll give you a little bit
quick quick nugget on there. Brandon Stanley made a decision
and he told his staff that they're gonna blow the
defense up. They're still going to run a thirty four,
but they want to they want to redo their defense
because he inherited a lot of guys that didn't fit
the scheme. And they've done that. Uh, they're they've signed
five guys and they may not be done. Plus they've
got the draft, so yeah, and then they also have

(01:44:51):
some free agents on defense. So you have the Chargers,
look you and don't forget you. You set this up
very well with the division. You better have good, good defense.
Got these quarterbacks in this division. It is the quarterback
division like we've never seen. Unbelievable a f C West
this year. Adam is always you're the best. We appreciate it.
Good stuff. Adam Kaplan joinings our Fox Sports Radio NFL
Insider speaking of the best. Let's find out what's trending

(01:45:13):
right now as we turn it once again to Mr
David Gascott. You know, one of the best things about
that Russell Wilson trade is right, what's that? And they
were able to dump no offense? Yeah, no, stop it, well, no,
a fan it actually already have some guys on the ball.
Have a real quarterback throwing the ball? Not teddy Bridgewater

(01:45:34):
on fan had already been demoted his second string, right,
how about Russell Wilson throwing them the ball? That might
make a difference. No, well, yeah, Drew locked again, it's
gonna be perfect past to the hands dropped. He can
work on. That could be Baker Mayfield throwing the ball.
Could could be you think that. I mean, it's like

(01:45:58):
the one benefit the right of Watson going to Cleveland
is he has that protection of a running game. Oh,
I mean yes, I mean Cleveland is a good team.
Their secondary was awful last year. There were but they
had a lot of injury. I mean, you could always
say this about interested about the Baltimore. Baltimore had like
twenty guys on I R. But this is what we

(01:46:20):
were saying. The Bengals just went to the Super Bowl.
Are they the fourth best team in that division? I
don't know. Man like Joe Burrow Joe Burrows, Yeah, that
dude's nails. I mean, for the amount of volume that
he was hit last year. This is coming off of
an a c L. But is there overall roster the best,
fourth best in that division? I'll tell you what if

(01:46:41):
you gave me that roster with Burrow, Chase Higgins, uh,
Joe Mixon. I mean, those are playmakers you stock up
on the offensive line there one draft away from I mean,
think about it. Even if that defense is still average

(01:47:02):
next year, the fact that that offense has those kind
of weapons. If they get good to average offensive line play,
I mean, sky's the limit for them. But they have
a long way to go to get too good or
I mean quarterback. They already added Kappa, they added um,
what's carras in? Uh so their guard positions. You've got

(01:47:25):
a lot of tackles available in this draft. But the
Bengals addressed some needs this offseason already and they still
have the draft. A yeah. I mean that's the same thing.
When you look at Denver and New Orleans last year,
there were quarterback away in both those teams of being
threats in their respective conferences. In New Orleans had top
ten defenses. Right now, as far as Vegas is concerned

(01:47:47):
a f C teams, here's how they rank for next year.
Buffalo Bills won Chiefs to Brown's three, Broncos, four, Chargers, five,
Ravens six, Bengals seven, and by the way the one
seed from last year, The Titans are at eight according
to Vegas Ots right now. I mean, I know home

(01:48:08):
field advantage wasn't really a factor last year, but if
you had to play a divisional or a championship round
game in Denver, Cincinnati, or Cleveland, that is awful for
the opposing team. But it's even better for a team
like Cleveland because not only do you have a powerful
running attack, but you have a dual thread at quarterback.

(01:48:30):
And by the way, right after those teams are the Colts,
the Patriots and Raiders. Colts, man, I mean, there are
some really good teams in the a f C. Yeah,
but I mean, what the hell is that you're gonna
do with the quarterback situation? Well, I don't know. Are
they better off with Baker Mayfield if they can make
that deal, he's got to be better in Carson Wentz.
I don't know. Man. I will say this, the more

(01:48:53):
I think about it more closely, these two resemble each other.
I mean, don't get me wrong, big germ Mayfield has
a better arm than Carson Wentz I think. But but
I mean from from a leadership stamp or a judgment standpoint, Yeah,
you know, I mean mistakes in games that you should win. Yeah,
I don't know, man, And who knows what happens with Jacksonville.

(01:49:15):
That's true too. Jackson was gonna get fat on the
offensive line. We'll get Trevor Lawinson, help boy. They took
some risks in free agency. They've taken they've taken some
big swings. Nothing. Nothing, Trump's what they did last year
with their head coach. Right, guys, College basketball Tennessee in Michigan.
Right now, near the end of the first half. UH
Tennessee leading thirty seven or thirty two. There's about thirty

(01:49:37):
seconds to go in the first half. Providence in Richmond underway,
the team that beat Iowa a few days ago, is
losing by thirteen. Right now, eleven is a score. North
Carolina overtime beat Baylor, Kansas over Creighton, U c l A.
And St. Mary's is on tap. Fellas Bruins three point
favorites in that ballgame, pack twelve versus the West Coast Confidence.

(01:49:59):
Look at I. I I told you guys, I picked St.
Mary's in my practice. U c l A. I I well,
first of all, part of its reverse psychology, because when
I picked U. C l A. Do well, they don't.
I'm surprised U c l A is a three point
favorite in that game. It's the Saint Mary's team that
recently beat Gonzaga pretty convincingly and U c l A

(01:50:20):
barely eating out of win against Akron. So who did
your boys pick? Oh? You can have you sill in
the final four? You know, no, they're no, no, no, no.
I'll be watching this game coming up here shortly looking
forward to that. Alright, Mr Gascon, thank you very much.
Uh yeah, that Richmond team that beat Iowa is looking

(01:50:41):
like a twelve seed right now? Is there? Down twenty
four to eleven? Uh to Providence Richard feeling good? Now?
Is your valls the team you pick to win it all?
Taking a five point lead over the eleven seed Michigan
at the half? I told you? What did I tell you?
I mean, look, they're proving me to be a genius
there at three seed verses eleven, they're supposed to win

(01:51:02):
this game. Well, yeah, yeah, that's true. Let's get to
the sweet sixteen. Let's see how to make me a
little nervous. I will I will say this. The Richmond Spiders,
I think, um they're being um defended better than Iowa
was able to defend them, Like you know, Providence is
actually um I mean if Richmond had won this game,
I mean that come they're down eleven. But I mean,

(01:51:23):
now you would hope, like if you're an Iowa fan,
the Richmond like suddenly gets on a run and you're like,
you know, they shot their shot though against Iowa, they're
they're mentally drained. Is that what? This is? Really good
team for them. They won the Big East regular season.
Providences good team, very good defensive team as well, So
kind of a bad matchup for the Spiders. Well, I mean,
in other words, if Iowa was in this game against Providence,

(01:51:45):
would they be down twenty seven thirteen? No, they would not.
They would not be No. No, A lot of things
went into that lost Riowa. But this is not the
Iowa show. This is fox Worth Frado and National Iowa
is out there out We're just we're just we're just
trying to wrap things up from the person set head around.
I appreciate it's just a lot of group coming his way. Okay,

(01:52:10):
uh and I by the way, I'd be sitting here
as well. Can you imagine the grief I'm beginning of
U c l A loss to Akron. We barely talked
about San Diego State, Steve Well San Diego this was
this was a they were the eight seeds losing to
the nine seed. Of course lost to Kansas today, but
we were talking about just the n c A tournament
in general. I mean, this is this is why these

(01:52:32):
games are so intense. You talk about the thrill of
victory in the agony of defeat. You see this in
all these games. And here's the here's the thing about
this tournament. The deeper you get into the tournament, the
more painful the loss. You know, you lose the first round,
a man, it hurts, but if you get two or
three rounds in, Like, to me, the most brutal is

(01:52:54):
that Elite eight. I mean, you've already won three games
to get there. You are one game away from the
five know fourgine Losing the lead a game is the
worst because you are fully invested. You're right there final
four and you lose. That to me is the most
brutal loss. I would imagine like in the NFL, losing

(01:53:15):
a conference championship game, right, I mean, you you you
win a game, so you're into the playoffs, like you
get blown out the first time. Well, let me tell
you right now, but you lose that championship games like
Super Bowl was right there. You look at Aaron Rodgers career,
he'd already be retired if he didn't lose some conference championship.

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I mean it fuels you, It keeps you up at night.
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the guys today, Iowa, Sam, it's been a rough day
for everybody. Has hung in there Thursday, Steve, Yeah, I
know you held off everybody. Yeah, and The fact of
the matter is is that you know, you just deal
with this as a sports fan. You you wear it.
You have to, well, you have to wear it. Not
everybody can be an Alabama football fan or you know,
you know, Baylor basketball fan. A lot of play a

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lot of teams. They just end up fizzling out. Yeah,
well yours, yours did um. I just remind you of that.
Of course, David Gascon who has made it a career
torturing as much as he can, and we can all
agree that in order to obviously to advancing n C
Double a tournament win and all, you have to at
least be a decent to good shooting team. I was

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not a good shooting team on Thursday, but they were
for the year. What wasn't talking to you? I was
talking to stevens rich about interesting Interesting. I wasn't, but
I will acknowledge the fact that she brought it up.
I was shot thirty six percent from the field. That
ball games outside of Kegan Murray, they were god awful,
embarrassing to the world, drastic, bad basketball. You know, a

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guy that's ignoring all this because he's had his best
sports week in a long time would be our producer
Danny g with Freddie Freeman now a Dodger, and of
course Davante Adams in a Raiders uniform. You're laughing at
these two guys because you had a good week. I am.
Both of my championship teams are still alive. I took
Kansas and the Zags, so okay, you really went out

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in the limb with those I did. I I as well.
My championship game is the one Seeds Zags versus Arizona.
Last year, you had the two best teams in the
country during the regular season matchup in the championship game
that was Baylor and getting Zaga. Uh. All right, Richie,
taking a look at a few more games coming up here,

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what are your thoughts on U c l A St. Mary's.
I mean, you're gonna see a great game. I hope
McK cronin the way that he has the Bruins playing defense,
the the the action and the scoring from St. Mary's.
It sets up to be one of these early round
thrillers like we've seen a lot of so far. It
doesn't matter what seed you're looking at, whether it's a

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low seed versus high seed or more evenly match depending
on where these teams have been placed in this these brackets,
both sides, all four corners. It's uh, They've been good games,
They've been competitive games, a couple of blowouts, but um,
you expect that overall, though, I'm expecting to see St.
Mary's u c l A b uh A thriller? Why

(01:56:46):
why would I expect anything less after the season we've
seen so far in postseason basketball? Are you excited about
the Pea Cocks? Yeah? The St. Peter's Peacocks. I mean,
are you thinking that? A fifteen seed? And I'd have
to I don't know how many fifteen seeds of actually
made it all the way to the sweet sixteen. They
got a challenge today. Murray State a seven seed, but
thirty one and two going into this game. So Murray

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States pretty good basketball team, They've had a good basketball
program for years. But going with the Peak Cocks today
and an upset, yeah, just based on mascot alone, I
want to see. I want to see what what they
do if they do advance deep into this bracket. Do
they bring a live peacock on the court at any point? Uh,
to unfurl its feathers and strut about before maybe the

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intimidate opponents. That's what I'm interested in. And of course
again Zaga a little bit later on taking on Memphis.
I just again, Mark fu has the highest career winning
percentage of any coach in the history college basketball. Um,
they've been in the tournament every single year he's been
the coach, and they've been in the championship game twice.

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Last year, they just ran out of gas after that
tough semi final against U C. L A. They had
nothing left against Baylor. That's why I just got to
believe Gonzaga is do Although every I also said that
John Caliperry was due for another Final four run in
picking them to get to the final four, and they
lost so the Peacocks, so maybe I'm wrong, But oh,

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Kentucky was yours to win it all this year. So
I had a bracket. You can throw your bracket ahead
once your national champions gone, both big red axe through
that bracket. That's a that's a gunner. But I just
I don't know. I just feel like the Zags. And
would that be a popular win you think nationally if

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Gonzaga won the national championship, I mean, that would be insane.
It's Gonzaga. Yeah. I don't think people even know we're Gonzagas. No,
but before I moved to the West coast, I couldn't
point to it on a map. But that is the
March madness, Richie. I feel like we're gonna do it
again tomorrow. Just yes, yes, I think we will. In

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