June 11, 2022 • 38 mins
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress give their thoughts on Davante Adams discussing his choice to leave Green Bay and break down what it can mean for the future of Aaron Rodgers. Lincoln Riley, Caleb Williams, and Jordan Addison all came to USC for one simple reason. The guys discuss the significance of the first transgender cheerleader in the NFL. Plus, Plaxico gives his Pony Picks for the Belmont Stakes!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Vonte Adams. He compares Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr.
Says living retirement was part of the reason why he
left Green. Baby, we're gonna talk about that. Lincoln Rally
says he wasn't running from the SEC addresses tampering allegations
with Jordan Addison. That should be an interesting topic for
us to jump on. Oh, this one, this one would
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be interesting. First transgender cheerleader, that's right, y'all, first trans
transgender cheerleader in the NFL. Thoughts on that coming up?
And my man Flexico burst, you know he's gonna be
having his owny fixed. Uh, we've got some horse racing
coming up. All of that out ahead. We'll talk about
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that on Up on Game. It starts right now. You
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you you name it, we got it. All right, all right,
let's jump into it, guys. Black t J your boy
uh LaMonte m uh. He took less money to go
to the Las Vegas Raiders. He had some interesting comments
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to say. I'm curious to hear what you guys think
about it, because I know I have a thought as
to to why he went to to Las Vegas to play.
But let's listen to what he had to say. I
want to hear what you guys are thinking as well.
Oh yeah, I mean we've talked multiple times, and you know,
we talked throughout the whole process too, and he was
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he was aware of you know where I stood, and
I was aware of where he stood, and we we
had talks just like what he said, um the other day,
he mentioned, we had talks about his future and what
he what he thinks his his duration in Green Bay
or just football in general would look like. And you
know that played into my decision as well, because you
know where I'm in my career, you know, and this
isn't a shot at anybody any other quarterbacks are you
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know on the in Green Bay. You know, I love
Jordan's love especially He's a He's a great guy. But
I got aspirations of doing really really big things and
being remembered, and I just, you know, it just it
wasn't really a point in my career that I was
willing to sacrifice are not being there, you know after
a year or two. So um, my decision was to
be here, and and he respected that. He understood that.
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You know, it has a lot to do with where
I want to raise my my kids, you know, family
being closer to home. I mentioned that to you guys
when I first came up here. We've had a lot
of good talks. Man, he he understands where where I'm
coming from. I understood where he was coming from, So
we kind of just left it at that, all right, Fellas, Uh,
what's your takeaway from this? Again? I know I had
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my my idea of of this, but what what was
your What was your takeaway in terms of what he
had to say as to why he left. Well, t
J wouldn't do it that. I wouldn't be making this decision. Uh,
not saying that Derek Carr can't play. He's not Aaron Rodgers.
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If you were concerned about Rogers retiring, you try to
tie your contract length to his. If that's the case, Um,
green Bay offered more money. How much more? Because there's
no state tax in the state of Nevada, and so
that's probably a wash. That's a push. But just to
play so long in Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers is
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your quarterback, I think you you tend to take things
for granted. Football wise, you you take stuff for granted.
And there's gonna be some things that are going to
happen over the course of the season where he's gonna
be like, oh man, I probably should have stayed there.
Unless Las Vegas has a great year, He's gonna have
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some regrets football wise, because he just had this chemistry
with Aaron Rodgers at Yeah, car was your college quarterback.
You ain't played the game there in eight years. It's
going to be different, and so I believe he may
have some regrets once the season starts. I hope not.
DeVante is a best receiver in the league. Uh, but
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it's tough when when you leave a quarterback like Aaron
Rodgers and you go to an unknown situation. I say
unknown because you guys have not played together in such
a long time. Man, I love everything he said, Man,
because you know what, Man, he told the truth, he said.
He sat up on a podium and he told you
the truth. But while he made the move to go
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to Las Vegas, Listen, everybody knows that and Rock that
that Derek Carr is not and Rogers. And he knows that.
But but he's at peace making the decision to go
play with the Raiders knowing that Derek Carr is nowhere
there close to and Rogers. What did he say? He said, right? Remember,
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I want to be a Hall of Fame wide receiver.
What Jordan's love. There's no attack on him, but is
going to be there? What another two or three more years?
Devantie Adams is gonna sign a long term contract. He
basically said it, I don't want to play with Jordan's
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love when Aaron Rodgers leaves. I don't want to raise
my children in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I want to be
closer to my family I grew up in Los Angeles.
But at the same time, he's gonna be paired with
Darren Waller, who I think it's the best Titan in football.
Did they did? They just resigned up Hunter yesterday and
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now you have DeVante Adams. You put all that together.
It may not be the numbers that he was putting
up in Green Bay, but they still have a pretty
damn good offense with those three guys playing at the
wide receiver. And I love what he said because he's
basically saying, listen, I want to be a Hall of
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Fame wide receiver and the next two years and Rodgers
is going to be gone, maybe I'm gonna I'm gonnaign
a long term deal, and where I'm at in my life,
I don't want to raise my kids here. I'm gonna
make a Deceit isn't that I'm at peace with myself,
even if I have to suffer a little bit on
the football field. I'm happy where I'm at, and that's
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the reason why he made the decision. What would you
do for for exactly what he's saying, I would have
did the same exact thing, m I would have an
interview on the Pat McAfee show, the Packers quarterback revealed
that he was actually surprised by the trade that sent
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Adams from Green Bay to the Las Vegas Vegas green
from Green Bay to Las Vegas. It was a little surprising.
Hold on, hold on again. They sat down and talk
about it. Hold on, give me a second. I'm getting
to where I'm going. It was a little surprising with
Devonte Rogers said via ESPN dot com. It's actually somewhat
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surprising hearing Rogers say that to me. And and the
reason it's surprised is because now it seems like Aaron
Rodgers knew all along that based off of everything that
was going on, Davante Adams, depending on what Aaron Rodgers
was going to do, would possibly want to leave. So
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that's confusing. That's that's a typic confusing. I don't know
who's who's telling the full truth and and and everything
that's taking place. But here's what I'll say one, Jordan Love,
ain't it That's that's like that should be definitive now,
Jordan Love, ain't it so that That's gonna be interesting
to see how that plays out too. I'm with you,
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t J. Why not do it? Like to? Three years
is a long time. I mean, if you think about
a rookie rookie contracts, veteran contracts, that three year, that
third year is usually the year that you start talking
about restructuring or just doing a new deal altogether. So
at that point two three years is is not That's
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not chump change in terms of the amount of time
that you're spending. That's enough time. I think that there's
a bigger issue here, I think, And he may have
told the truth. I don't know that he's telling the
full truth. I think that there's something And I got
chewed up by Brady Quinn when I said this on
the show yesterday, and I'm interested to see what you
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guys say, but I'm I'm I just wonder at some
point do guys like a Davonte Adams who has options
and opportunity get tired of dealing with all of the
extra addit mess that goes along with dealing wood guys
that are on the level of Aaron Rodgers, and the
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way Aaron Rodgers handled things the entire season, the entire offseason,
like for two years, if you really think about it,
Green Bay Packers players have had to listen and deal
with the uncertainties, the back and forth, the beef between
what was developing between Aaron Rodgers and the front office
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of the Green Bay Packards. Now I'm not saying he
went to a peaceful place, because there's drama plan now
in Vegas as well, so maybe maybe there there is.
There's a lot of validity and truth to what he's saying.
But I'm just wondering, fellas, like, is it is it
crazy to think that he left because he just didn't
want to deal with Aaron Rodgers. If I believe he left,
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it is the uncertainty of Aaron Rodgers. Is he gonna retire? Uh?
And he didn't want to have his career derailed because
of the uncertainty of if Aaron Rodgers is gonna be here,
is he gonna demand a trade, is he gonna retire?
Does he want to go play somewhere else? So now
let me get out while I can. I believe it was,
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So it's crazy. So it's crazy to think that that
has anything to do with not wanting to to deal
with Aaron Rod. Just Na, Na, I just believe it
was uncertainty and I and and I get it. You
don't want to raise your kids in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
I get that parties from pal alto California. You he
wants to be on the West Coast where he can
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raise his kids in an environment that he wants them
to be raised in. I get that, But from a
professional perspective, it's just it's different. You know, we play
football for a living, and ultimately what matters is football.
When you start having a wife and kids, though, they
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come into the equation now, so it's no longer just football.
It's what does my wife want to do, what's best
for my family? And for him, it's like he's getting
the best of both worlds. Um. I hope he doesn't
have any regrets from a professional standpoint, because once this
season starts, ain't no going back. It ain't. Man. I
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divorced my wife, man, damn she has. I wish I
can call her up and tell her I'll miss it,
but I can't because I got this. No wife. I
mean just I just hope that don't happen. Hey, man,
I don't think he's gonna have any problems at all,
because one thing about Davonte Adams, we know that he's
the best way I was in football. He's going to
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be able to get open on something they don't. It
don't matter what. It's the best quarterback and football, I
mean best who is so far uh to reach now
he ain't better than Come on, man, that's coming from me,
and I'm just I'm just put listen. I have to
take I have to take this man at his word
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because of the fact that he turned down more money
to go play somewhere else. So just like he said
in the clip, he said, man, listen, men and Roder
sat down and we had this discusion. I let him
know where I was at. So I think that's relationship
driven though, that you would take less money to go
somewhere else. Hey, or that the fact that's really less
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money there's no state tax, and about it, is it
really less money? And he said it was less money.
He said less money contractually. But when you when you
add in there's no state tax, I'm sure to stay.
I'm sure to state tax at least paying that much
money living there, it's at least four percent. I'm guessing
you're gonna I'm ana google it right now. But if
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it's at least four percent, Uh, do the math on
what you're saving on ten million. We talked in the
football standpoint of what why he made the decision is Listen,
he was going to sign a long term deal seven
eight years. He didn't want to be in Green Bay
for for that long because he knows, look is out
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of the door in three or four years. The whole
point of it a long time. It's not a long time.
What years he in? What years? DeVante in? Hey, he's
going in the night, He's going in the year three years,
three years in the prime of his career. No, he's not.
That's not the prime. Is eight is I'm not gonna
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say he's out of his prime. But eight years in
the league is not a prime year. It's not your prime.
It's like five or six or seven. No way, man, listen,
how many years? How many I'll play? Listen, Listen, I
won the Super Bowl in my aphyel and I tell
you flat, I thought I was the best way I
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was eaving football and six through eight nine, those are
your prime years in the NFL review of all I agree.
Six through eight nine. I agree. So you just said
he it's not a prime year. What I'm saying is
he's coming You should be coming out of your prime
by then. You should be coming out of your prime.
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So three years from now not in his prime. It's different, dudes.
These dudes can really play. I think you can play
well into your prime past year eight I ain't. The
way the rules are, the way you practice. It's completely
it's completely different than what we're For one, he gets
out of the cold and Green Bay. That's for one.
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As a five percent tax rate, that's a lot of money.
Brian Wisconsin, he's saving five percent. That's a lot. He
signed for a hundred million. Do the math. He didn't.
That's five million dollars I just did. Is it possible
that he just didn't want to play with Aaron Rodgers anymore?
I mean, that's what I was getting all the credit.
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Maybe that's the point to to me, it's the uncertainty.
Oh I'm gonna retired. Oh I want to be traded.
Oh I don't like what's going on. Okay, now, now
you're not gonna tip my career to what you're tired of.
So now let me go ahead and play with Car
Car and retiring here. It ain't just about Carter, It's
about putting them on the field with Darn Waller man
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t J. Now you understand the significance of what I'm
talking about. No, but this is what I'm saying. A
hundred balls left hunter this year. I guarantee you we're
gonna we gotta catch up between between the double teams,
between the double teams, between Darrell Waller and the Vante Adams.
I guarantee you to catch a hundred footballs we have.
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We need to have a commercial free show because I
tell you what, it seemed like y'all be heating up
when we got to wrap up. So I hate to
do it to y'all out there listening to these young men.
Kind of nice. Nice, he's nice. He's definitely nice. All Right,
We're gonna talk Lincoln Rally. How nice is he? Was
he running from the SEC? Was he tampering? We're gonna
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As we are marching through the time through the shows,
we had some pretty good conversations here and the conversation
continues right now with one Lincoln rally. Now, Ryan put
us up on some game as in terms of what's
going on here, what Lincoln had to say, what situation was,
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and why he's feeling the way that he's feeling. And
then I want to hear what t J and Plex
got to say about it. Sure, Yeah, Lincoln gave a
written interview with ESPN. You had a couple of interesting
comments in that interview. One he was he was asked
about obviously going from Oklahoma to USC in the midst
of Oklahoma joining the SEC, and he said, oh, yeah,
I knew that was out there. Football is football. I
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wasn't running from the SEC. I was running to USC.
That's probably the best way I can answer that. And
then when asked about reports that he may have tampered
with Jordan Alison, excuse me, Jordan Addison before transferring to
USC from Pittsburgh. He says no, And a lot of
that comes with the nature of the portal. Go back
to Caleb Williams. When he left OU, everyone thought that
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was a done deal. There's still so much more about
this that he's got to go through. His family has
to go through different location. YadA, YadA, YadA. They were
throwing their process just like they were in high school,
and guys like Caleb and Jordan's see the bigger picture
and the advantage of this. There's a short term game,
but there's also a long term game. They feel like
they could both play here. And uh, we were hardly
the only school Jordan was interested in. There were several
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and what I can tell you is there was no
tampering on our part. All right, let's say, you guys, what,
what's what's the reaction. Did he run from the SEC?
Do you feel like he was tampering? Man, He didn't
run from the SEC. He rant to that money. He
couldn't say that. He said, I ran to USC. He
ran to that money. You know, you know how much
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money you see gave Linko Riley. You know where Linka
Riley living? You know how much his house costs. That's
what he ran too. He ran to that bread running
from the SEC. If Oklahoma could pay him the money
to us see what was paying him, he would run
right back to the SEC. No, he ran to the money.
And being in California, you really don't have to go
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anywhere to recruit. You go to Texas, you go to Florida,
you go to Virginia wherever it may be, and you
get the best players from no states Ohio, whereas Oklahoma
you you don't have that. You not mentioned Pittsburgh. Okay,
I know I'm not gonna miss Pittsburgh. I'll say Pennsylvania.
And so you can just Pittsburgh. You go, he goes.
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You go to those states and try to get the
best player when you're at USC. And so it's just
a different type of recruiting you do at USC then
you do with Oklahoma. But he he didn't run from
the SEC. He ran to the money. Did he tamper
with Jordan Addison. I don't know. I don't care. That's
the rules as they are today. Jordan Addison did what
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was best for him, and to my understanding, it was Alabama,
it was Texas, it was USC. If Lincoln Riley ran
to the money. What you think George Addison did. He
ran to the money as well. Hey, listen, Lick and
Rowleer is not a bad coach. I mean what, he
won four Big Twelve titles out of the last five years.
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Two number one draft picks Calin Murray and Baker Mayfield,
who was a backup at Texas a NM to to
my homes and he turned them into what the Heisman
Trophy quarterback. But I'll say this, what destination do you
think is more favorable for young men going into college?
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It ain't Oklahoma. It's USC and him basically coming out
and say, listen, it's a whole different recruiting tool from
recruiting at USC versus Oklahoma, Oklahoma, in Texas and all
those those schools. Those kids grow up in those states
wanting to go to Texas in Oklahoma, those kids don't
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want to go anywhere. Most most of those guys that
play at those schools are are instinct guys. But when
you go to USC, you can recruit from coast to coast.
I wanted to go to USC, but it's a it's
a different it's a whole different dialogue when you recruiting
a kid to come to USC versus Oklahoma. It's not
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like Oklahoma's uh football, It's not a football institution. And
you know what to plex the type of guys that
Caleb Williams and Jordan's Addison are doing n il deals with.
If they make it to the league, this could be
very big for them outside of the game of football
from just an investment standpoint, because they're being connected with
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dudes that are can change their lives if they make
it to the National Football League in a big way.
I think that with this whole transfer portal, I think
it's ridiculous to try to throw tampering at anyone because
you can't. You can't limit friends from being friends. Bottom line,
if you're asking me why the Addison choose USC, it's
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because of Caleb Williams. Both of them from the d
m V. They know each other, they're familiar with each other.
Caleb is a from runner along with Stroud to possibly
be a Heisman Trophy winner. He's a candidate. Like, let's
be clear here, you're not going to be able to toe.
You got to be the dumbest coach ever in the
history of dumb coaches. If you get caught tampering with
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the transfer portal being the way it's set up right now,
because there's too many dudes out here that are friends
with one another. I mean, if I'm in the transfer
portal and I know I got a great situation, I'm
hit y'all a plux t J. Let's get this, stub man.
Let's let's get this this championship right like they're doing
it right here, like this is things that they're talking about.
These are the things that they're offering, Like like, let
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me get you all on the horn. Is that tampering?
I don't know if that's and and how are you
going to label that tampering? So to me, I look
at it like this, if he I agree with y'all
for for once, I agree like he, yes, he ran
for the money. He did go for the money that
and why shouldn't he Palace Verde's you know, or percip
what is it, Pacific Palisades or whatever, and where he
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lives and in and and a a spread you don't
believed and believe it's like fourteen million get spreads. You
don't get spreads like that in California without walk in
the backyard and look at the Pacific Ocean. Yeah, yeah,
we got a homie that that you stay there anyway,
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and don't forget unlimited use of the private jet twin Jet,
and I bet you that's a nice jet that they
jumping him probably seting five grand round trip that is
for free. We we got an interesting topic on the
other side of this, this trending update. But il let's
tell what you got. Actually got the official stats on
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the Lincoln Riley House coming up, so we'll have that
for you all the details associated with that specifically. But first,
the NBA Finals fellas tied at two wins a piece
thanks to Steph Currea the Golden State Warriors forty three
points seven three pointers in Golden States what oh seven
to ninety seven win at Boston in Game four on
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Friday night, tying this series at two wins apiece. Game
five on Monday at the Chase Center in San Francisco.
In Gulf eighteen Masters champion Patrick Read has become the
latest to join the new Live Golf Tour. Coming up
tonight at six indeed sixty nine Eastern on the Belmont Stakes.
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Then tonight at eight pm Eastern, it's Game six of
the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals from Tampa Bay with the
Lightning leading the New York Rangers three games to two.
Now Here are the official stats, fellas on the Lincoln
Riley House. Fourteen million dollar. There's was actually a low estimate.
It's actually seventeen millions. Here are the numbers. Thirteen thousand
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square feeds, seven bedrooms, twelve bathrooms, a guesthouse, and a
five car garage. And with that, back to you for discussion.
Almost as impressive as Cosa Arrington, by the way, Yeah, right,
did they did they fill up like they do candy
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dishes that they fill up the garages to with with
candy in there. I'll be efforting that. I'll be efforting
that I might have to investigate that personally. I would
love to know what type of cars are in those
those those garages, you know what I mean? Whatever you want,
whatever you want, all right, Fellas. Here here's a here's
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a curve ball. And this is this is one of
those topics that makes up on game. What up on
game is, Uh, we'll tackle conversations and topics that well,
other people won't venture into talking and and going going
at there's there's a story that that surface that came
out during the week that a transgender cheerleader, the first
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transgender cheerleader in the NFL. Um was you know, made
the team. Give me some more, give us some details, Ryan,
and and I wanna I want to ask you guys
a question outside of the information. Yes, her name is
Justine Lindsay. She is one of thirty members of the
Top Cats, which is the can Carolina Panthers cheer squad.
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According to BuzzFeed News, she did disclose on her paperwork
that she was a transgender woman, and the squad director
said that it was her talent and integrity that won
her the spot on the squad. All right, now, I'll
start this one off. I definitely don't have any type
of issues with equality, inclusion, with with choices. You know,
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if you choose that that's what you identify with, and
that's what how you want to live. Do you live
your life? Be happy, be fruitful, be productive. Um. But
it does raise the question because then you start thinking
about the idea of of of this taking place where
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generally speaking, if you're if you're coming on as and
I guess this makes it complicated if you're coming on
as a cheerleader. I mean that's that's a you know,
in college, that's a scholarship position. That's that's you know,
in in certain situations, that's generally a female position. Now,
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I don't know that I take as hard stance on
a cheerleader for a protein as I would for you know,
as a as a as a possible is a possible
college scenario playing out differently where a kid like we're
talking about inclusion, we're talking about equal quality. But if
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if a transgender person is one better, you know, and
in a scenario and it's taking the position of of
of a female, how is that going to be How
is that going to be interpreted? How should we interpret that?
How should we feel about it? Like you think about
it if if a transgender athletes starts having inclusion and
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starts having equality and and are included in things like
running the hundred meters or or you know, basketball or
softball or any type of sport, you know that that
where you're talking about you know, the level of strength,
the level of agility, you know, these are When I
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saw this story, it made me just start thinking to myself.
You know, while I'm okay with it's a pro it's
the pros it's a pro cheerleader, Like, okay, do you
I have no problem with it, But does there come
a point in time where the idea of a transgender
person has the ability or is allotted the right to
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go qualify for the Olympics. They're they're playing volleyball, or
they're they're doing a sport. You know. I'm curious to
what you guys would think. Does there come a point
in time where you say that just that it can't
work that way? So I don't so, I don't understand.
So I mean when I was in high school in
continents like that, there's always been male chill leaders, So
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I don't understand. But but the cheerleader is on the
on the the first so as a as a girl,
though not as so these proteins, they only hire female
chill leaders, are they not? I think Baltimore has I
think Baltimore has male cheerleaders. But again that he's the
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the cheerleader is is a woman cheerleader as as identified
as a so will dress as a female, will will
do female cheer Okay, all right, I understand that, But
I don't have a problem with I've never I've never
seen male I don't have a problem with a transgender
Chileader because I mean, I've I've seen it all my life.
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I've seen male chili. So I don't understand why to
make people are making them seen male cheerleaders that have
changed their their sexual orientation or they're changed, you know. No,
I mean, I don't understand why why this is it's
such a big deal because it's a transgender cheerleader. It's
not a male cheerleader being a cheerleader. It's a man
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that it's going to dress like a woman, and she's
claiming that he's a woman. No, she is a woman
now because she has gone through the process of becoming
a woman. I don't think any player, they don't care.
Man Like I didn't even know who the cheerleaders were
when I was playing for the most part, like Derby Thomas,
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if I was in Cincinnati, didn't even have it. You
never had anything. If I was in Pittsburgh or New York,
I was in Cincinnati, if I stayed in a facility
late the cheerleaders would practice um somewhere in the facility,
you would see him. But for the most part, nobody. Really.
It doesn't matter to the players, but not to that
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not to that compacion not not at all, not at all.
Put this in the context, so uh depend that the
University of pen swimmer Thomas Lea Thomas Thomas. She's a
transgender swimmer and she's like the number one swim in
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the world, but as a male's as her have he
was he or she was born he's a he ran
full four hundred in the world as a male, but
he's number But she is a number one swimmer in
the world. And that's what I think. That's the point
of the I don't agree with that when it gets
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into competing. I think there is an advantage. But doesn't
that open up the door, Like when you have situations
and stories like these, doesn't it open up the door
for the conversations now take place where you're you're asking, Okay,
at what point is it not okay to to say
this is equality, this is equal all things given, this
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is you know, these are the opportunities that people should have.
To me, if my daughter loses to a transgender competitor
or athlete or loses out to one, I would have
a if I'm being honest, I would have a problem
with that. I'd have a problem with that. You have
one case study right now, and it's Leah Thomas was
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ranked in the four hundreds as a man, but you
are the best as a woman. That that right there.
I ablem with that. That says a lot because as men,
we are naturally stronger, we're naturally bigger, our bones are
bigger for the most part, and so you have a
natural advantage when you start talking competing, they are at
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an advantage because they have the DNA of a man.
And I don't know the procesct process that goes into
changing yourself to a woman and the things that take
place and so forth and so on, but I know
when you were ranked in the four hundreds as a
man and you were ranked number one as a woman. Uh,
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something's not adding up. It is not fair. It's not right.
And the female competitors that you're going against they feel
the same way. Some may speak out, others would just
say it kind of is what it is. I don't
like it, but but it's not fair at all. It's
not fair. And this is gonna be something that sports
is going to have to tackle and figure out a
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happy medium to make both parties happy, because at the
end of the day, the people that are transitioning, they're human,
they have rights as well, and it would be it
would be unfair to them to say, oh, because you
feel this way, you want to do this, you can't.
That's that's not right, that's not how you treat people.
And so that's also unfair for a person to lose
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out on a possibility of an accomplishment to someone that
is physically they're they're going to be stronger, they're going
to disadvantage. Yes, they have to figure out what's fair,
what's right to stop ster own levels, so forth and
so on. Um, it's tough that that's not an easy answer,
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but I both parties. I feel for both sides of this. Uh,
it's it's a tough it's a tough question and a
tough answer. Yeah, I thought it would be worth having
the conversation. I'm sure it'll be a conversation that comes
up again, um at some point. But you know what,
sometimes these are conversations that need to be had to
see see what people are feel and see what people
(35:16):
are thinking. All right, next up Plexico's pony Picks. You know,
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All right, make sure you check out the podcast up
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that's t J, It's Plex, I'm LaVar. You'll you'll enjoy
listening to it. Even shows past Um, we had an
interesting show, a lot of topics discussed. Uh, but this
is the final one of the final segment Burst. We
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gotta get into plexis pony picks. Set us up for
for the stakes today. The horses that are running um,
and we'll get some picks before we get up out
of here. That's right, we got the Belmont Stakes later
on today. The favorite we the people at two to one,
Modnegal's five to two, Rich strikes seven to two. Of course,
the Kentucky Derby Winter Creative Minister at six to one,
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Nest at eight to one. Those are your top five, Plexico,
give us some pony picks. Oh man, you know, listen,
another great day for horse racing. Hen up on Northeast
at the Bill Mos Stakes, in which I will be
attending after this show later today. So we're always excited
to the ten. All nice, but listen, if you want
to make some money today, skip your long stock. And
(37:03):
I think he's gonna break the gate first. She is
gonna carry the pace. And Todd Pletcher, the trainer for
modonegle he has great success at the Belmont Stake. He
has won three belt Mon Stakes in six second place finishes.
But how can you not bet on a horse name
weave Up People, which is the strongest horse in the race.
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That's supposed to be some forecast is supposed to be
some rain in the forecast today. But you know what,
I gotta go with my guy, Rich Strike because I
believe that that horse is not Vanilla Ice. He is
not a one hit wonder, and I'm gonna put my
money on rich Strike. He's he is fresh. He did
not race two weeks ago at the Preakness. So I
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got rich Strike, making you a little bit richer today.
So put your money on rich Strike and and you'll
build a page your wall it baby, Oh you got
anythink t J. Man, I don't know nothing about no horse.
I'm gonna watch and I'm gonna events. It's a great
(38:14):
event to attend. Man, it really we go every year. Hey,
I hear you're doing Uh two pros and a cup
of Joe plexico plexis Yeah, Man, debut on on doing
the show. I'm gonna get my feet with on Monday morning,
so to two two bros and a couple of Joe.
I will be on the show Monday morning at what
(38:35):
is six am Eastern time. I'm looking forward to it. Man.
You you're good luck on that and do your thing.
You'll kill it, uh for me plex t j uh
this is up on game. Uh. Make sure you're you're
tuned in. Stay tuned in for the next show. We'll
check you later, all right,
The Vonte Adams. He compares Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr.
Says living retirement was part of the reason why he
left Green. Baby, we're gonna talk about that. Lincoln Rally
says he wasn't running from the SEC addresses tampering allegations
with Jordan Addison. That should be an interesting topic for
us to jump on. Oh, this one, this one would
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be interesting. First transgender cheerleader, that's right, y'all, first trans
transgender cheerleader in the NFL. Thoughts on that coming up?
And my man Flexico burst, you know he's gonna be
having his owny fixed. Uh, we've got some horse racing
coming up. All of that out ahead. We'll talk about
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let's jump into it, guys. Black t J your boy
uh LaMonte m uh. He took less money to go
to the Las Vegas Raiders. He had some interesting comments
(02:12):
to say. I'm curious to hear what you guys think
about it, because I know I have a thought as
to to why he went to to Las Vegas to play.
But let's listen to what he had to say. I
want to hear what you guys are thinking as well.
Oh yeah, I mean we've talked multiple times, and you know,
we talked throughout the whole process too, and he was
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he was aware of you know where I stood, and
I was aware of where he stood, and we we
had talks just like what he said, um the other day,
he mentioned, we had talks about his future and what
he what he thinks his his duration in Green Bay
or just football in general would look like. And you
know that played into my decision as well, because you
know where I'm in my career, you know, and this
isn't a shot at anybody any other quarterbacks are you
(02:53):
know on the in Green Bay. You know, I love
Jordan's love especially He's a He's a great guy. But
I got aspirations of doing really really big things and
being remembered, and I just, you know, it just it
wasn't really a point in my career that I was
willing to sacrifice are not being there, you know after
a year or two. So um, my decision was to
be here, and and he respected that. He understood that.
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You know, it has a lot to do with where
I want to raise my my kids, you know, family
being closer to home. I mentioned that to you guys
when I first came up here. We've had a lot
of good talks. Man, he he understands where where I'm
coming from. I understood where he was coming from, So
we kind of just left it at that, all right, Fellas, Uh,
what's your takeaway from this? Again? I know I had
(03:34):
my my idea of of this, but what what was
your What was your takeaway in terms of what he
had to say as to why he left. Well, t
J wouldn't do it that. I wouldn't be making this decision. Uh,
not saying that Derek Carr can't play. He's not Aaron Rodgers.
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If you were concerned about Rogers retiring, you try to
tie your contract length to his. If that's the case, Um,
green Bay offered more money. How much more? Because there's
no state tax in the state of Nevada, and so
that's probably a wash. That's a push. But just to
play so long in Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers is
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your quarterback, I think you you tend to take things
for granted. Football wise, you you take stuff for granted.
And there's gonna be some things that are going to
happen over the course of the season where he's gonna
be like, oh man, I probably should have stayed there.
Unless Las Vegas has a great year, He's gonna have
(04:40):
some regrets football wise, because he just had this chemistry
with Aaron Rodgers at Yeah, car was your college quarterback.
You ain't played the game there in eight years. It's
going to be different, and so I believe he may
have some regrets once the season starts. I hope not.
DeVante is a best receiver in the league. Uh, but
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it's tough when when you leave a quarterback like Aaron
Rodgers and you go to an unknown situation. I say
unknown because you guys have not played together in such
a long time. Man, I love everything he said, Man,
because you know what, Man, he told the truth, he said.
He sat up on a podium and he told you
the truth. But while he made the move to go
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to Las Vegas, Listen, everybody knows that and Rock that
that Derek Carr is not and Rogers. And he knows that.
But but he's at peace making the decision to go
play with the Raiders knowing that Derek Carr is nowhere
there close to and Rogers. What did he say? He said, right? Remember,
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I want to be a Hall of Fame wide receiver.
What Jordan's love. There's no attack on him, but is
going to be there? What another two or three more years?
Devantie Adams is gonna sign a long term contract. He
basically said it, I don't want to play with Jordan's
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love when Aaron Rodgers leaves. I don't want to raise
my children in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I want to be
closer to my family I grew up in Los Angeles.
But at the same time, he's gonna be paired with
Darren Waller, who I think it's the best Titan in football.
Did they did? They just resigned up Hunter yesterday and
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now you have DeVante Adams. You put all that together.
It may not be the numbers that he was putting
up in Green Bay, but they still have a pretty
damn good offense with those three guys playing at the
wide receiver. And I love what he said because he's
basically saying, listen, I want to be a Hall of
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Fame wide receiver and the next two years and Rodgers
is going to be gone, maybe I'm gonna I'm gonnaign
a long term deal, and where I'm at in my life,
I don't want to raise my kids here. I'm gonna
make a Deceit isn't that I'm at peace with myself,
even if I have to suffer a little bit on
the football field. I'm happy where I'm at, and that's
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the reason why he made the decision. What would you
do for for exactly what he's saying, I would have
did the same exact thing, m I would have an
interview on the Pat McAfee show, the Packers quarterback revealed
that he was actually surprised by the trade that sent
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Adams from Green Bay to the Las Vegas Vegas green
from Green Bay to Las Vegas. It was a little surprising.
Hold on, hold on again. They sat down and talk
about it. Hold on, give me a second. I'm getting
to where I'm going. It was a little surprising with
Devonte Rogers said via ESPN dot com. It's actually somewhat
(07:54):
surprising hearing Rogers say that to me. And and the
reason it's surprised is because now it seems like Aaron
Rodgers knew all along that based off of everything that
was going on, Davante Adams, depending on what Aaron Rodgers
was going to do, would possibly want to leave. So
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that's confusing. That's that's a typic confusing. I don't know
who's who's telling the full truth and and and everything
that's taking place. But here's what I'll say one, Jordan Love,
ain't it That's that's like that should be definitive now,
Jordan Love, ain't it so that That's gonna be interesting
to see how that plays out too. I'm with you,
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t J. Why not do it? Like to? Three years
is a long time. I mean, if you think about
a rookie rookie contracts, veteran contracts, that three year, that
third year is usually the year that you start talking
about restructuring or just doing a new deal altogether. So
at that point two three years is is not That's
(09:01):
not chump change in terms of the amount of time
that you're spending. That's enough time. I think that there's
a bigger issue here, I think, And he may have
told the truth. I don't know that he's telling the
full truth. I think that there's something And I got
chewed up by Brady Quinn when I said this on
the show yesterday, and I'm interested to see what you
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guys say, but I'm I'm I just wonder at some
point do guys like a Davonte Adams who has options
and opportunity get tired of dealing with all of the
extra addit mess that goes along with dealing wood guys
that are on the level of Aaron Rodgers, and the
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way Aaron Rodgers handled things the entire season, the entire offseason,
like for two years, if you really think about it,
Green Bay Packers players have had to listen and deal
with the uncertainties, the back and forth, the beef between
what was developing between Aaron Rodgers and the front office
(10:05):
of the Green Bay Packards. Now I'm not saying he
went to a peaceful place, because there's drama plan now
in Vegas as well, so maybe maybe there there is.
There's a lot of validity and truth to what he's saying.
But I'm just wondering, fellas, like, is it is it
crazy to think that he left because he just didn't
want to deal with Aaron Rodgers. If I believe he left,
(10:29):
it is the uncertainty of Aaron Rodgers. Is he gonna retire? Uh?
And he didn't want to have his career derailed because
of the uncertainty of if Aaron Rodgers is gonna be here,
is he gonna demand a trade, is he gonna retire?
Does he want to go play somewhere else? So now
let me get out while I can. I believe it was,
(10:52):
So it's crazy. So it's crazy to think that that
has anything to do with not wanting to to deal
with Aaron Rod. Just Na, Na, I just believe it
was uncertainty and I and and I get it. You
don't want to raise your kids in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
I get that parties from pal alto California. You he
wants to be on the West Coast where he can
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raise his kids in an environment that he wants them
to be raised in. I get that, But from a
professional perspective, it's just it's different. You know, we play
football for a living, and ultimately what matters is football.
When you start having a wife and kids, though, they
(11:34):
come into the equation now, so it's no longer just football.
It's what does my wife want to do, what's best
for my family? And for him, it's like he's getting
the best of both worlds. Um. I hope he doesn't
have any regrets from a professional standpoint, because once this
season starts, ain't no going back. It ain't. Man. I
(11:56):
divorced my wife, man, damn she has. I wish I
can call her up and tell her I'll miss it,
but I can't because I got this. No wife. I
mean just I just hope that don't happen. Hey, man,
I don't think he's gonna have any problems at all,
because one thing about Davonte Adams, we know that he's
the best way I was in football. He's going to
(12:16):
be able to get open on something they don't. It
don't matter what. It's the best quarterback and football, I
mean best who is so far uh to reach now
he ain't better than Come on, man, that's coming from me,
and I'm just I'm just put listen. I have to
take I have to take this man at his word
(12:39):
because of the fact that he turned down more money
to go play somewhere else. So just like he said
in the clip, he said, man, listen, men and Roder
sat down and we had this discusion. I let him
know where I was at. So I think that's relationship
driven though, that you would take less money to go
somewhere else. Hey, or that the fact that's really less
(13:01):
money there's no state tax, and about it, is it
really less money? And he said it was less money.
He said less money contractually. But when you when you
add in there's no state tax, I'm sure to stay.
I'm sure to state tax at least paying that much
money living there, it's at least four percent. I'm guessing
you're gonna I'm ana google it right now. But if
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it's at least four percent, Uh, do the math on
what you're saving on ten million. We talked in the
football standpoint of what why he made the decision is Listen,
he was going to sign a long term deal seven
eight years. He didn't want to be in Green Bay
for for that long because he knows, look is out
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of the door in three or four years. The whole
point of it a long time. It's not a long time.
What years he in? What years? DeVante in? Hey, he's
going in the night, He's going in the year three years,
three years in the prime of his career. No, he's not.
That's not the prime. Is eight is I'm not gonna
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say he's out of his prime. But eight years in
the league is not a prime year. It's not your prime.
It's like five or six or seven. No way, man, listen,
how many years? How many I'll play? Listen, Listen, I
won the Super Bowl in my aphyel and I tell
you flat, I thought I was the best way I
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was eaving football and six through eight nine, those are
your prime years in the NFL review of all I agree.
Six through eight nine. I agree. So you just said
he it's not a prime year. What I'm saying is
he's coming You should be coming out of your prime
by then. You should be coming out of your prime.
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So three years from now not in his prime. It's different, dudes.
These dudes can really play. I think you can play
well into your prime past year eight I ain't. The
way the rules are, the way you practice. It's completely
it's completely different than what we're For one, he gets
out of the cold and Green Bay. That's for one.
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As a five percent tax rate, that's a lot of money.
Brian Wisconsin, he's saving five percent. That's a lot. He
signed for a hundred million. Do the math. He didn't.
That's five million dollars I just did. Is it possible
that he just didn't want to play with Aaron Rodgers anymore?
I mean, that's what I was getting all the credit.
(15:32):
Maybe that's the point to to me, it's the uncertainty.
Oh I'm gonna retired. Oh I want to be traded.
Oh I don't like what's going on. Okay, now, now
you're not gonna tip my career to what you're tired of.
So now let me go ahead and play with Car
Car and retiring here. It ain't just about Carter, It's
about putting them on the field with Darn Waller man
(15:53):
t J. Now you understand the significance of what I'm
talking about. No, but this is what I'm saying. A
hundred balls left hunter this year. I guarantee you we're
gonna we gotta catch up between between the double teams,
between the double teams, between Darrell Waller and the Vante Adams.
I guarantee you to catch a hundred footballs we have.
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We need to have a commercial free show because I
tell you what, it seemed like y'all be heating up
when we got to wrap up. So I hate to
do it to y'all out there listening to these young men.
Kind of nice. Nice, he's nice. He's definitely nice. All Right,
We're gonna talk Lincoln Rally. How nice is he? Was
he running from the SEC? Was he tampering? We're gonna
(16:36):
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As we are marching through the time through the shows,
we had some pretty good conversations here and the conversation
continues right now with one Lincoln rally. Now, Ryan put
us up on some game as in terms of what's
going on here, what Lincoln had to say, what situation was,
(17:22):
and why he's feeling the way that he's feeling. And
then I want to hear what t J and Plex
got to say about it. Sure, Yeah, Lincoln gave a
written interview with ESPN. You had a couple of interesting
comments in that interview. One he was he was asked
about obviously going from Oklahoma to USC in the midst
of Oklahoma joining the SEC, and he said, oh, yeah,
I knew that was out there. Football is football. I
(17:43):
wasn't running from the SEC. I was running to USC.
That's probably the best way I can answer that. And
then when asked about reports that he may have tampered
with Jordan Alison, excuse me, Jordan Addison before transferring to
USC from Pittsburgh. He says no, And a lot of
that comes with the nature of the portal. Go back
to Caleb Williams. When he left OU, everyone thought that
(18:03):
was a done deal. There's still so much more about
this that he's got to go through. His family has
to go through different location. YadA, YadA, YadA. They were
throwing their process just like they were in high school,
and guys like Caleb and Jordan's see the bigger picture
and the advantage of this. There's a short term game,
but there's also a long term game. They feel like
they could both play here. And uh, we were hardly
the only school Jordan was interested in. There were several
(18:25):
and what I can tell you is there was no
tampering on our part. All right, let's say, you guys, what,
what's what's the reaction. Did he run from the SEC?
Do you feel like he was tampering? Man, He didn't
run from the SEC. He rant to that money. He
couldn't say that. He said, I ran to USC. He
ran to that money. You know, you know how much
(18:47):
money you see gave Linko Riley. You know where Linka
Riley living? You know how much his house costs. That's
what he ran too. He ran to that bread running
from the SEC. If Oklahoma could pay him the money
to us see what was paying him, he would run
right back to the SEC. No, he ran to the money.
And being in California, you really don't have to go
(19:11):
anywhere to recruit. You go to Texas, you go to Florida,
you go to Virginia wherever it may be, and you
get the best players from no states Ohio, whereas Oklahoma
you you don't have that. You not mentioned Pittsburgh. Okay,
I know I'm not gonna miss Pittsburgh. I'll say Pennsylvania.
And so you can just Pittsburgh. You go, he goes.
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You go to those states and try to get the
best player when you're at USC. And so it's just
a different type of recruiting you do at USC then
you do with Oklahoma. But he he didn't run from
the SEC. He ran to the money. Did he tamper
with Jordan Addison. I don't know. I don't care. That's
the rules as they are today. Jordan Addison did what
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was best for him, and to my understanding, it was Alabama,
it was Texas, it was USC. If Lincoln Riley ran
to the money. What you think George Addison did. He
ran to the money as well. Hey, listen, Lick and
Rowleer is not a bad coach. I mean what, he
won four Big Twelve titles out of the last five years.
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Two number one draft picks Calin Murray and Baker Mayfield,
who was a backup at Texas a NM to to
my homes and he turned them into what the Heisman
Trophy quarterback. But I'll say this, what destination do you
think is more favorable for young men going into college?
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It ain't Oklahoma. It's USC and him basically coming out
and say, listen, it's a whole different recruiting tool from
recruiting at USC versus Oklahoma, Oklahoma, in Texas and all
those those schools. Those kids grow up in those states
wanting to go to Texas in Oklahoma, those kids don't
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want to go anywhere. Most most of those guys that
play at those schools are are instinct guys. But when
you go to USC, you can recruit from coast to coast.
I wanted to go to USC, but it's a it's
a different it's a whole different dialogue when you recruiting
a kid to come to USC versus Oklahoma. It's not
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like Oklahoma's uh football, It's not a football institution. And
you know what to plex the type of guys that
Caleb Williams and Jordan's Addison are doing n il deals with.
If they make it to the league, this could be
very big for them outside of the game of football
from just an investment standpoint, because they're being connected with
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dudes that are can change their lives if they make
it to the National Football League in a big way.
I think that with this whole transfer portal, I think
it's ridiculous to try to throw tampering at anyone because
you can't. You can't limit friends from being friends. Bottom line,
if you're asking me why the Addison choose USC, it's
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because of Caleb Williams. Both of them from the d
m V. They know each other, they're familiar with each other.
Caleb is a from runner along with Stroud to possibly
be a Heisman Trophy winner. He's a candidate. Like, let's
be clear here, you're not going to be able to toe.
You got to be the dumbest coach ever in the
history of dumb coaches. If you get caught tampering with
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the transfer portal being the way it's set up right now,
because there's too many dudes out here that are friends
with one another. I mean, if I'm in the transfer
portal and I know I got a great situation, I'm
hit y'all a plux t J. Let's get this, stub man.
Let's let's get this this championship right like they're doing
it right here, like this is things that they're talking about.
These are the things that they're offering, Like like, let
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me get you all on the horn. Is that tampering?
I don't know if that's and and how are you
going to label that tampering? So to me, I look
at it like this, if he I agree with y'all
for for once, I agree like he, yes, he ran
for the money. He did go for the money that
and why shouldn't he Palace Verde's you know, or percip
what is it, Pacific Palisades or whatever, and where he
(23:17):
lives and in and and a a spread you don't
believed and believe it's like fourteen million get spreads. You
don't get spreads like that in California without walk in
the backyard and look at the Pacific Ocean. Yeah, yeah,
we got a homie that that you stay there anyway,
(23:39):
and don't forget unlimited use of the private jet twin Jet,
and I bet you that's a nice jet that they
jumping him probably seting five grand round trip that is
for free. We we got an interesting topic on the
other side of this, this trending update. But il let's
tell what you got. Actually got the official stats on
(24:01):
the Lincoln Riley House coming up, so we'll have that
for you all the details associated with that specifically. But first,
the NBA Finals fellas tied at two wins a piece
thanks to Steph Currea the Golden State Warriors forty three
points seven three pointers in Golden States what oh seven
to ninety seven win at Boston in Game four on
(24:21):
Friday night, tying this series at two wins apiece. Game
five on Monday at the Chase Center in San Francisco.
In Gulf eighteen Masters champion Patrick Read has become the
latest to join the new Live Golf Tour. Coming up
tonight at six indeed sixty nine Eastern on the Belmont Stakes.
(24:44):
Then tonight at eight pm Eastern, it's Game six of
the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals from Tampa Bay with the
Lightning leading the New York Rangers three games to two.
Now Here are the official stats, fellas on the Lincoln
Riley House. Fourteen million dollar. There's was actually a low estimate.
It's actually seventeen millions. Here are the numbers. Thirteen thousand
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square feeds, seven bedrooms, twelve bathrooms, a guesthouse, and a
five car garage. And with that, back to you for discussion.
Almost as impressive as Cosa Arrington, by the way, Yeah, right,
did they did they fill up like they do candy
(25:30):
dishes that they fill up the garages to with with
candy in there. I'll be efforting that. I'll be efforting
that I might have to investigate that personally. I would
love to know what type of cars are in those
those those garages, you know what I mean? Whatever you want,
whatever you want, all right, Fellas. Here here's a here's
(25:51):
a curve ball. And this is this is one of
those topics that makes up on game. What up on
game is, Uh, we'll tackle conversations and topics that well,
other people won't venture into talking and and going going
at there's there's a story that that surface that came
out during the week that a transgender cheerleader, the first
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transgender cheerleader in the NFL. Um was you know, made
the team. Give me some more, give us some details, Ryan,
and and I wanna I want to ask you guys
a question outside of the information. Yes, her name is
Justine Lindsay. She is one of thirty members of the
Top Cats, which is the can Carolina Panthers cheer squad.
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According to BuzzFeed News, she did disclose on her paperwork
that she was a transgender woman, and the squad director
said that it was her talent and integrity that won
her the spot on the squad. All right, now, I'll
start this one off. I definitely don't have any type
of issues with equality, inclusion, with with choices. You know,
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if you choose that that's what you identify with, and
that's what how you want to live. Do you live
your life? Be happy, be fruitful, be productive. Um. But
it does raise the question because then you start thinking
about the idea of of of this taking place where
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generally speaking, if you're if you're coming on as and
I guess this makes it complicated if you're coming on
as a cheerleader. I mean that's that's a you know,
in college, that's a scholarship position. That's that's you know,
in in certain situations, that's generally a female position. Now,
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I don't know that I take as hard stance on
a cheerleader for a protein as I would for you know,
as a as a as a possible is a possible
college scenario playing out differently where a kid like we're
talking about inclusion, we're talking about equal quality. But if
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if a transgender person is one better, you know, and
in a scenario and it's taking the position of of
of a female, how is that going to be How
is that going to be interpreted? How should we interpret that?
How should we feel about it? Like you think about
it if if a transgender athletes starts having inclusion and
(28:26):
starts having equality and and are included in things like
running the hundred meters or or you know, basketball or
softball or any type of sport, you know that that
where you're talking about you know, the level of strength,
the level of agility, you know, these are When I
(28:49):
saw this story, it made me just start thinking to myself.
You know, while I'm okay with it's a pro it's
the pros it's a pro cheerleader, Like, okay, do you
I have no problem with it, But does there come
a point in time where the idea of a transgender
person has the ability or is allotted the right to
(29:11):
go qualify for the Olympics. They're they're playing volleyball, or
they're they're doing a sport. You know. I'm curious to
what you guys would think. Does there come a point
in time where you say that just that it can't
work that way? So I don't so, I don't understand.
So I mean when I was in high school in
continents like that, there's always been male chill leaders, So
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I don't understand. But but the cheerleader is on the
on the the first so as a as a girl,
though not as so these proteins, they only hire female
chill leaders, are they not? I think Baltimore has I
think Baltimore has male cheerleaders. But again that he's the
(30:00):
the cheerleader is is a woman cheerleader as as identified
as a so will dress as a female, will will
do female cheer Okay, all right, I understand that, But
I don't have a problem with I've never I've never
seen male I don't have a problem with a transgender
Chileader because I mean, I've I've seen it all my life.
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I've seen male chili. So I don't understand why to
make people are making them seen male cheerleaders that have
changed their their sexual orientation or they're changed, you know. No,
I mean, I don't understand why why this is it's
such a big deal because it's a transgender cheerleader. It's
not a male cheerleader being a cheerleader. It's a man
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that it's going to dress like a woman, and she's
claiming that he's a woman. No, she is a woman
now because she has gone through the process of becoming
a woman. I don't think any player, they don't care.
Man Like I didn't even know who the cheerleaders were
when I was playing for the most part, like Derby Thomas,
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if I was in Cincinnati, didn't even have it. You
never had anything. If I was in Pittsburgh or New York,
I was in Cincinnati, if I stayed in a facility
late the cheerleaders would practice um somewhere in the facility,
you would see him. But for the most part, nobody. Really.
It doesn't matter to the players, but not to that
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not to that compacion not not at all, not at all.
Put this in the context, so uh depend that the
University of pen swimmer Thomas Lea Thomas Thomas. She's a
transgender swimmer and she's like the number one swim in
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the world, but as a male's as her have he
was he or she was born he's a he ran
full four hundred in the world as a male, but
he's number But she is a number one swimmer in
the world. And that's what I think. That's the point
of the I don't agree with that when it gets
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into competing. I think there is an advantage. But doesn't
that open up the door, Like when you have situations
and stories like these, doesn't it open up the door
for the conversations now take place where you're you're asking, Okay,
at what point is it not okay to to say
this is equality, this is equal all things given, this
(32:38):
is you know, these are the opportunities that people should have.
To me, if my daughter loses to a transgender competitor
or athlete or loses out to one, I would have
a if I'm being honest, I would have a problem
with that. I'd have a problem with that. You have
one case study right now, and it's Leah Thomas was
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ranked in the four hundreds as a man, but you
are the best as a woman. That that right there.
I ablem with that. That says a lot because as men,
we are naturally stronger, we're naturally bigger, our bones are
bigger for the most part, and so you have a
natural advantage when you start talking competing, they are at
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an advantage because they have the DNA of a man.
And I don't know the procesct process that goes into
changing yourself to a woman and the things that take
place and so forth and so on, but I know
when you were ranked in the four hundreds as a
man and you were ranked number one as a woman. Uh,
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something's not adding up. It is not fair. It's not right.
And the female competitors that you're going against they feel
the same way. Some may speak out, others would just
say it kind of is what it is. I don't
like it, but but it's not fair at all. It's
not fair. And this is gonna be something that sports
is going to have to tackle and figure out a
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happy medium to make both parties happy, because at the
end of the day, the people that are transitioning, they're human,
they have rights as well, and it would be it
would be unfair to them to say, oh, because you
feel this way, you want to do this, you can't.
That's that's not right, that's not how you treat people.
And so that's also unfair for a person to lose
(34:31):
out on a possibility of an accomplishment to someone that
is physically they're they're going to be stronger, they're going
to disadvantage. Yes, they have to figure out what's fair,
what's right to stop ster own levels, so forth and
so on. Um, it's tough that that's not an easy answer,
(34:55):
but I both parties. I feel for both sides of this. Uh,
it's it's a tough it's a tough question and a
tough answer. Yeah, I thought it would be worth having
the conversation. I'm sure it'll be a conversation that comes
up again, um at some point. But you know what,
sometimes these are conversations that need to be had to
see see what people are feel and see what people
(35:16):
are thinking. All right, next up Plexico's pony Picks. You know,
there's some some racing going on today, so it'll be
interesting to hear what t J and Plex have to
say about that you're listening to Up on Game, We'll
be right back. Hey, it's me Rob Parker. Check out
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(35:36):
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All right, make sure you check out the podcast up
on podcast, Up on Game podcast. If you missed anything, Uh,
that's t J, It's Plex, I'm LaVar. You'll you'll enjoy
listening to it. Even shows past Um, we had an
interesting show, a lot of topics discussed. Uh, but this
is the final one of the final segment Burst. We
(36:20):
gotta get into plexis pony picks. Set us up for
for the stakes today. The horses that are running um,
and we'll get some picks before we get up out
of here. That's right, we got the Belmont Stakes later
on today. The favorite we the people at two to one,
Modnegal's five to two, Rich strikes seven to two. Of course,
the Kentucky Derby Winter Creative Minister at six to one,
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Nest at eight to one. Those are your top five, Plexico,
give us some pony picks. Oh man, you know, listen,
another great day for horse racing. Hen up on Northeast
at the Bill Mos Stakes, in which I will be
attending after this show later today. So we're always excited
to the ten. All nice, but listen, if you want
to make some money today, skip your long stock. And
(37:03):
I think he's gonna break the gate first. She is
gonna carry the pace. And Todd Pletcher, the trainer for
modonegle he has great success at the Belmont Stake. He
has won three belt Mon Stakes in six second place finishes.
But how can you not bet on a horse name
weave Up People, which is the strongest horse in the race.
(37:27):
That's supposed to be some forecast is supposed to be
some rain in the forecast today. But you know what,
I gotta go with my guy, Rich Strike because I
believe that that horse is not Vanilla Ice. He is
not a one hit wonder, and I'm gonna put my
money on rich Strike. He's he is fresh. He did
not race two weeks ago at the Preakness. So I
(37:50):
got rich Strike, making you a little bit richer today.
So put your money on rich Strike and and you'll
build a page your wall it baby, Oh you got
anythink t J. Man, I don't know nothing about no horse.
I'm gonna watch and I'm gonna events. It's a great
(38:14):
event to attend. Man, it really we go every year. Hey,
I hear you're doing Uh two pros and a cup
of Joe plexico plexis Yeah, Man, debut on on doing
the show. I'm gonna get my feet with on Monday morning,
so to two two bros and a couple of Joe.
I will be on the show Monday morning at what
(38:35):
is six am Eastern time. I'm looking forward to it. Man.
You you're good luck on that and do your thing.
You'll kill it, uh for me plex t j uh
this is up on game. Uh. Make sure you're you're
tuned in. Stay tuned in for the next show. We'll
check you later, all right,
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