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LaVar, TJ, and Plaxico have a Legendary Moment from Warren Sapp, talk about the greatness of defensive players, more on Carolina and the fit with Baker Mayfield, Cam Newton’s lack of suitors, and reactions to Stefon Diggs WR rankings!

 

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all right, our two legendary moments is coming up, and
in a matter of seconds, I think this is one
of those legendary moments where I would rather us hear

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the legendary moment and then talk about you know, Sap
after versus talk about him before, and then going to
the legendary moment, but before we go into the legendary moment.
Interestingly enough, Warren Sapp was catching a lot of flak
uh because people were kind of questioning whether there was
any validity to what he said. Some people even went

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as far as to say it was black on black
crime for Warren Sapps saying that the reports that he
received coming out of the Colin cappern Uh workout was
that it was one of the worst workouts that they
had had experienced. It was a disaster. One one UM
comment was was reference to UM. So it was interesting.

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The timing of getting the interview with Sap was pretty cool.
But what people may not remember was Warren Sapp used
to skip through people's stretch lines. I remember and and
and you know, if you're a football culture kid, a
football culture person, you realize and you understand that is something.

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There's two things you could do in pregame that are
considered to be super disrespectful and it's unheard of and
it's unthinkable. And you shouldn't do go through a team
stretch line and be on the other side of the
fifty yard line. I gotta story bust that. I mean,
we were playing the Tampa Bay buccan Is in two
thousand and two on Monday Night football and we were

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playing down in Tampa and he came out, and you know,
you hear about it, but I had never seen it
or experience when he came and like really like skipped
through people's lives. Man Jerome got up and ran behind
sat Man pushed it, pushed in. They was like nose
the nose And that just changed the whole, like the

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the physicality and the whole of the football game. In
the first player game, I went for sixty nine route
first place sixty Skip through that. But but that was
also the year that they won the Super Bowl, but
we did be them. There you go, all right, here
goes this week's legendary moment. Game presents conversations with a

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legtion and now this is your legendary moment. We got
the man, the myth, the legend warrant side, we got
history threatened. Yet all right, here we go. I did
not threaten, and I'm glad I get an opportunity after
all these years to clear that's up. I would not

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threaten the original QB killer about anything. We were in
the meeting and I'm like sitting here, I'm like, do
you understand what the ultimate I'm gonna kick your ass
and y'all can't do nothing about it. What that first
that first mental emotional attack would be is Warren sapped

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coming and skipping through your stretching line. You wouldn't respect
me if I didn't come out and I didn't say
what a whole bunch of people wanted to say and
didn't do you want you want hit the best part?
Tell me the best part. But then we're DC leaving
Landover for the got to the stadium. You'll never against
when the elevator opened on my floor to go down,

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We're standing right there, Dan Snyder, No, it's worth Chris
Collins word. You remember he was doing the game. He
was like, I gotta get there early. They don't feel fright.
I was in your stadium. Now you come to tell
I was doing two more. You're lucky you Wasn't you lucky?
I said, bore, he lucky. You know what. I was like,

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I was lucky. You didn't do it. I just was
on my way to word. There's a rule against that. Now,
there's two rules of distinct You can't you can't go
hut nobody up on the trackback block. The second rule
is you can't fret thing. You gotta you gotta go
around people. I'm like, I've never I told him. I said,
draw me a rounde for work. It's the fastest distance

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between any two points straight line. I got four quarters
of hell. The two people trying to hold me down.
But I ain't wasting no step just to warm up.
Warren sat the stretch line skipper. So so there was
a whole thing about it because I told the media.

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I was like, if Warren Stocke comes through our our
stretch line, we ain't playing. There won't be a game.
There will not be a game because there's no way
I'm gonna allow for Warrenstot to come through our stretch lines.
So so the thing about it was, so this became
a whole national news media event, and it was almost

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like the main event was the stretch. And you can
hear the rest of the interview on up on Game
Presents conversations with a legend. But the coolest thing about
that story was I was. I was. I went on
to tell him a few things about how I told
the stadium security y'all better not let him nowhere near
the field until he gets this side of because I

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want to play today. I want to play in this game. Uh.
And we had some pretty pretty interesting conversations. One of
the conversations we had and and we even had with Grey,
I had with Greg Lloyd, which was one of my
best UH interview used as well was just the idea
of what great represents these days and and how loosely

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great is being used tossed around. Let me tell you something,
I would be hard press defined someone in the history
and the animals of the game on the defensive side
of the ball. And there's a few names that come
to mind. Reggie White, uh, Warren Sap, John Randall, Lawrence Taylor.

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These guys come to mind when I think about Bruce Smith.
They come to mind when you think about the most
dominant players that ever play the game. I would go
out let him say, I would go out on the
limits say this, um, you know, coming through that whole
generation of you know, University Miami and and watching one
set in in college and get to the pros. The

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creative he had. I thought during the two thousand's he
was the best defensive tack period ever in the NFL
until until we have seen Aaron Donald. So that's where
I was getting to, is Aaron Donald. Is Aaron Donald
the most dominant defensive player of all time? Defensive tackle?

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Well about defensive player. He's on his way. If he
can continue to go done, it's gonna it's gonna be
tough to lt from that. I don't know. I don't know.
I almost almost the same category. But I would say,
from a defensive tackle standpoint, Aaron Donald. Yes, but I

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thought that one cent was the best defensive tackle to
ever played until we are witnessing what Aaron Donald's accomplishing
right now. But to say the most dominating, if you
say him in LT. I don't think anybody's would have
a greg about that. I mean, like, here's what I'll

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say about LT. L T got m v P of
the league. Hey, hey, let me put this in perspective
for you, But LaVar, the game was so different than
they will like the way they do the m v P.
I'll be just honest. They need to put some people
on the board. You don't you don't think lt was
deserving of the m v P. Well, no, no, no, no, no.

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What I'm saying he got it twice, didn't get it.
This is what I'm saying, is m v P moving forward,
at least as long as we'll be alive, it's always
going to be a quarterback. They need the best quarterback,
the best running back, the best receiver because nobody forward man,
nobody will get the m v P outside of a

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quarterback as long as we're watching football. Nah, he'll be definitely,
they'll they'll say his name and they'll always give it
to the quarterback on the best team. Always. All I'm
gonna say. All I'm gonna say to you is I
hear what you're saying. But he was now Aaron is
at what five he's got five defensive m vps. I
believe I'm not. I'm gonna look it up. But but

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Lawrence got three. But he's got in NFL Most Valuable Hey, man,
that set you that that sets you on a different
You're you're you have to be judged differently when you
are a NFL Most Valuable Player. And to your point, yes,

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it was a different game back then. They didn't even
use max protections back then, right, they didn't even use
tight ends the way that they used them. They had
to start using tight ends because there was no one
There was no one there to actually be able to
block Lawrence Taylor. There were no tackles that were quick

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enough and and and skilled. He didn't have to worry
about getting chipped in seven. Man, he was. But there
are always new iterations of how at that time, at
that point in time, the most difficult situations were out
there to Teller, So so t J. So, are you

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saying that Aaron Donald is a more dominating player than
Lawrence Teller was. He's on his way to being that nobody,
no question, no, no, no, Aaron Donald is still in
the middle of his career. But he was about man,
you know that wasn't happened Donald. Aaron Donald is still

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writing his book. He could quite possibly. No, he'll never
win it. That the NFL, but that's what always going
to the quarterback. But you gotta understand that's probably how
they felt back then too. But but but what y'all
said is that he's not capable, but he's capable when
with an m VP he won't. But you were saying

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that he's the best defensive player to ever played. No,
I said, he's on his way. He's on his way
to be in that. I mean, I almost feel like
you gotta get the same amount of accolades if you're
going to to set. Now. Granted, now super Bowl that's
different super Bowls, I'm gonna measure you differently, but personal accolades,
you gotta have things that are comparable, like in terms

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of the amount of Pro Bowls, or the amount of
of All pros, or the amount of m VP's. Nobody
has been able to do it. Ray got close, Ray
got close together. Now you can sit here and say
that the first five years of Aaron Donald's career and J. J.
Watt's carel we're basically the same. M hmm, minus the injury. Uh,

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I mean J. J. Watt Wood he came out the
gates unreal, right, and then he's just been hurt hurt.
Aaron Donald has been a model of consistency from day one,
no injury, still going. That's where, yeah, they're comparable, and
then the comparison stops because J. J. Watt has been hurt.

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Aaron Donald hasn't had that. I mean, it's from the
day he came into the league, great till last year. Great,
we ain't seen that. We ain't seen that, not at
that position every single year he's been in a year
Warren Sapp said J. J. Watt is overrated. SAP City
is overrated. That wasn't from me, that was from That

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was from SAP. I'm just saying, I think that there
are a lot of conversations that are going to continue
on in terms of who's dominant, most dominant of all
time and stuff like that. But I will say this,
Aaron Donald, outside of Lawrence Taylor, I gotta say and
and and then uh A three three A three B

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would be Reggie White and and Warren stat That's what
I would say. But I think right now, I think,
right now you gotta give it to Lawrence Taylor. But
Aaron Donald is literally at the door, at the door.
He's knocking at the door. All right, Well, we'll continue
on with that, and again, if you want to hear
the rest of that interview, Warren Sapp had a lot
of very interesting things to say. You don't want to

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with a Legend hosted by me. Coming up next, we're
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that was briefly in New York. I know Plexico brief
I think the most memorable part of his coaching tenure
there was seeing his suit that he had on when

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Does this hurt or does this help? What we got
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Let's revisit they bring in Baker Mayfield this year is
a big, big deal. Baker Mayfield had to to basically

(17:44):
take responsibility over three million dollars of it to make
the deal happen. Uh he did. I think he can
get it back with with incentives uh in his contract.
But they were able to make it work between Baker
Cleveland and Carolina. Where talking about the idea of coming
in and being able to be successful in Carolina. And

(18:07):
none other than Ben Macado is the O C for
Matt Rules Carolina Panthers offense. Now, I know, with your
history with the New York Giants, you know about Ben
Macado and what his capabilities are as a coach uh

(18:27):
and and I'm not sure what your knowledge level is
of him uh t J. But I'm sure you paid
enough attention to what um he's been able to do
as as a head coach. Now, there may be other
opportunities that you know, you guys are aware of where
he proved that he was the guy for the job
in New York. But I'm interested plex We'll start with

(18:48):
you because I know you're aware of who maculd do is.
What type of marriage do you think this will turn
out to be between maca doo and and Mayfield. I
don't think it's a marriage at all. I think it's
a bad relationship from the art. What the hell is
going on in Carolina? I really just don't understand. I
don't know what they're trying to accomplish. What what is

(19:08):
on matt Ruge Matt Ruge mind. But this is this
is the same guy that bess Eli Mann and for
Gino Smith and and uh that got him running out
of town real quick. Even the governor came out and
UH said it was the wrong thing to do. But
he's never had an offense ranked high out of the

(19:30):
thirty two teams, So I don't understand what he's bringing
to the table. Uh, You're already looking at a quarterback
situation in Carolina that's up in the air. Nobody knows
what's gonna happen as far as that's concerned. Baker Sam
Donald mc crawl, the rookie you just drafted, and now
you're bringing uh Ben McAdoo based off of what I

(19:55):
just don't understand. You know, I know he had sixteen,
you know, years of experience in the NFL and coaching.
He's forty four years old, he's the same age as myself.
But from an offensive plague calling standpoint, he's just not
a good officer coordinator. And then the resume speaks for herself.
So I just don't understand what he can bring to

(20:19):
Carolina that's going to make them a better offense. You
know what it is when when I see that and
I and I listen to what you're saying, plex is
it must have been he he reached out the other
other candidates. They know people that had options that want
to move their family down to Carolina to quite possibly

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be gone after one year. This is a make or
break here. From that rule, he doesn't win, he's going
to be let go. And so how many OC candidates
are gonna put their families through this? And Ben McAdoo
was the one that says, Hey, I'll do it, let's go,
And so that that's how I look at it. I

(21:01):
don't know Ben McAdoo obviously coming up under Green Bay.
And then you know he wore the late nineties than
suit when he got that. It was straight from uh
no no, no lotto. When when you say Ben McAdoo,

(21:22):
the first thing that comes in my mind slick is
his hair slicked back and that big gass suit that
he had on. That's the first thing that comes to
my mind. And so I don't know what Ben cannon
can do. I don't know what he knows or what
he doesn't know. You we do know this at the
quarterback place, well, Ben McAdoo would look like he knows

(21:43):
what he's doing. And if he doesn't, to say, oh
why did they hire this guy? And Matt Rowland, all
those coaches uh will be looking for jobs. Yeah. I
don't want to make it a doom or gloom scenario
with what Ben McAdoo, but I just don't see how
it dramatically improves um with with the current current set

(22:06):
up in situation. But I'll say this, I do know
Matt Rule very well, and if he hired Ben mcado,
I believe that it's because he feels as though what
he brings to the table is could be a tremendous
asset for what it is that he's doing. So whether
I believe lar, you know, when you go out, you

(22:27):
go out and you get young and you see somebody
you really like it. Oh she fine, I'm a holler.
He probably if they out your league, you can't even
high at him. Coordinators he wanted may have been out
his league. He couldn't coaching last season. But it's a

(22:48):
new offensive coordinator. He was sitting on the couch. Man
he had he had no he had no options. I'm
talking Matt rule. He had no Might you might be
right when you're looking at him from that point of you.
I mean, and if that's the case, but at least
that it's they're going to have the opportunity to do
this together in the offensive coordinator and the new quarterback.

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Nobody's ahead of No one is ahead of anyone. That's
including Matt Correll. Matt Correll could possibly play himself into
the starting job. It's possible. You know what, It makes
sense now, Nobody wanted to go to Carolina because they're
gonna be out of a job. They're gonna be out
of Ben McAdoo. You know, you know how they do it,

(23:32):
Ben McAdoo. He was a consultant. Last year. He was
a consultant for the Cowboys. He was a quarterback coach
of the Jags. But like he a consultant, what what
do you I guess he pre game planning. That that
that's that's how I take a consultant. He was pre
game planning. But nobody wanted that job. Plex They don't
want to move their family to Carolina for one season

(23:53):
with a hope and a and a wish of we're
gonna be good. They don't want to do that. Yeah,
so I don't understand what's going on in Carolina, but
you know, maybe they know something we don't. Obviously. All
right here here, here's what the final debate of this
will be. I mean, was Cam not a better Was

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Cam not a better option than Baker Mayfield or Sam Donald? Pause,
We're gonna go to Isaac Low and Crown. We're gonna
get a tripping before I let you guys answer that one.
What you got high? We continue with our NFL themed topics.
Interesting story on social media where Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson,

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of course, is presently representing himself in contract extension negotiations
with the Ravens changed his Twitter and Instagram background pictures
to a set of gold teeth inscribed with the words
I need money. The money symbolized by a dollar sign.
It is completely unclear whether exactly whether this has to

(24:57):
do with his extension negotiations. It could have completely nothing
to do with his extension negotiations, but it hasn't stopped
people from commenting and weighing in on social media because
they think it does. And the Ladies Singles final at
Wimbledon today, Atlenna roba Kina of Kazakhstan and Ons Jibbur
of Tunisia came down to the third and deciding said

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here is which condelling on Wimbledon Radio kicks it to
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and Ancient Golf Club announced today that it did not
invite two time British Open champion Greg Norman to this
week's events celebrating the British Opens one hundred fiftieth anniversary,
evidently due to Norman's role as the CEO of the
controversial new live golf tour, the Royal and Ancient of Club,
saying in a statement and I actually, you know what, guys,

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would you mind if instead of reading this like straightforwardly,
whether I kind of maybe did it in sort of
a pompous, stuffy kind of tone. Hang out. I gotta
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This is why I'm a tune it up here. We'll
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We can confirm that we contacted Greg Norman to advise
him that we decided not to invite him to attend
on this occasion. The Open is an extremely important milestone
for golf, and we want to ensure that the focus

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remains on celebrating the championship and it's heritage. Unfortunately, we
do not believe that would be the case if Greg
were to attend. Unquote, you know why it was a
good trial. I thought, I mean, I thought you did it,
and I just thought there was a little too much
more of Alberts. There was a little bit of Marvin there,

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that free agent group that's out there. Is this it?
I mean you're working to make a trade happen you guys?
It it's not an upgrade from Sam Donald. If it's

(27:55):
not an upgrade from Sam Donald, why do you just
not go back to Cam? And how should we be
viewing Cam? Like? If this is it, how do we
view Cam Newton's career? Like? What what's his legacy? What
you guys think? Uh? I think he was a he
was a great player. And let me let me say this,

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Warren Sapp said him nor Odell Beckham are great. They
shouldn't be considered And you win the m v p
uh in this league as being the most valuable player
of the league. You to give him great hater. He
had to be a great player. Uh, that's part of

(28:37):
one of Haman trophy, Um, one of that championship in college,
that's true, and one of m v P in the
National Football League, and took his team to a super
Bowl even though he didn't win it. So you don't
do and accomplish all of those great things if you're
not a what if? What if the conversation were instead
of being as far as his NFL career, Yeah, lity,

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because they say the great ones they can do things,
I mean at a high level for a long amount
of time. He did great things, but it was only
for about five or six years. You don't want an
m v P and go to a Super Bowl if
you're not a great player as a quarterback that could
that be considered a great scene. Offensively, they didn't really
have that that dynamic offense where he had had you know, uh,

(29:22):
you know, uh he had number one, then he had
four times. It was pretty much him and Steve Smith
and Smitty. So he was a great player, but he
didn't accomplish the things that we thought that he was
on the path to to do. I thought that he
would go on to win a Super Bowl, and after
this MVP season, we just expected him to get better

(29:45):
and better and better. Those didn't happen. He had a
foot injury, he had the shoulder, and it just seemed that,
you know, after that six or seventh year where he
went to Super Bowl, he saw of getting empty. I
think he's a Hall of Famer. He's done a Hall
of Fame quarterback. And when you talk Warren Sapp, if

(30:07):
he's comparing them to himself, of course they're not great.
Warren Sapp is one of the best defensive players ever
play the National Football League, But man, dude is a hater.
Like if you win an m v P, you can play.
Odell Beckham is a really good receiver. Is he great? No,

(30:29):
he started off looking like he was changing there, like
he was going. He's just been injured. He's been injured.
But when you get guys like Warren Sap, they were
so good that when you compare people to them, of
course guys aren't at your level. How many people are,
it's right, But when you have the success that Cam

(30:52):
Newton and know that Eldall Beckham have had, they're really
good players. And my requimers for the Hall of Fame.
I've said, this is quite simple. Over a period of
five or six years, were you top five at your
position for those years? If you weren't, you're not a
Hall of famer. The Hall of Fame is the very
best to ever play. Uh, if you got to think

(31:13):
about it, you're not a Hall of Famer at one
point in your career where you top five at your
position for a period of five or six years. If
that's a resounding yes, you're a Hall of Famer. If
it's a you're not simple, Dan, I'm three, I had three.
But to me, would you guys agree with that? Disagree with?

(31:33):
What would my requirement? I don't want to make it
four to five. But you need the Hall of fame.
You have to consistently be very very good and great
and so and so. That's the key to the Hall
of Fame is consistent greatness. That that that's what makes
so so what what would we categorize cam As? He

(31:56):
was very very good, very good. Not not hall of
fame type good, but he was very good. If there's
a hall of very good in it, that's a hell
of a quote, a hall of very good. Hell, there's
a lot of people in that. I think I might

(32:17):
get in that one too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All
three of us is in that. We in the Hall
of Very Good. We all in that. But and that's
why the Hall of Famers special. I like to think
I was special. With everybody else they think I was special,
you know what I'm saying. And so that's why the
Hall of Fame is a fraternity of the best of

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the best, and they diluting it with oh, is this
guy should being? No? No, no, So let me get
another subbing right quick. Uh what how did you feel
about the whole Bruce Smith and Tony Buselly thing you
is a Hall of Famer? No, I don't he is one. No,
I mean and this is and this if Fred Taylor

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and in the Hall of Fame made no way Tony.
But when I think that Jacksonville Jaguars, I think Fred Taylor,
Jimmy Smith. Listen, man, how many years that Tony Baselly play?
I don't know, not long. Tony Baselly wasn't great long
enough at least in my opinion. And you talk to
these guys that Bruce Smith obviously didn't like the fact

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that Tony but Selly used him. And so Tony BASSELLI
was a really good player. But Tony BASSELLI wasn't a
better tackle than Willie Anderson. Willie Anderson ain't in the
Hall of Fame. It wasn't at seven year, eight year career, right,

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three time first team All Pro, five time Pro bowler. Um,
come on, man, go go look at Willie Anderson And
obviously I'm biased. Dude played against Julia's peppers, Michael straighthand
Reggie White. Don't look at don't look at how many
sacks he gave up this career. Dudes giving that up
in a year. Yeah, Willie, absolutely. I mean you're spot

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on on that one, and you're spot on on the
Fred Taylor one as well. All right, look, we're gonna
take a quick break. On the other side, we're gonna
close this out, wrap it up. Stefon Diggs. He had
some interesting things to say, real spicy, so to speak.
But we're gonna first take a quick respite, real quick, alright,
and I'm gonna give you this live read watch this,

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stay locked in and tuned in. Bo who we got
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and that is mean. He's real good at it. Uh.
Stefan digs. Just to end off in this short segment,
Stefan Dick said, there's only seven to eight spicy receivers

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in the league are easy to check. So you said
you agree that that was gonna be the question. Do
you agree? Do you disagree? I absolutely agree. Uh. Listen,
Chris Carter told me a long time ago. If you
can beat man, if you can beat bump and run
covers in this league, you can play forever. It's easy
to play against zone and when when When it comes

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to route running in this business, my five top route
runners uh Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, Mark Cooper, Cooper Cup
and win Healthy Michael Thomas no O b J is
one of the elite route runners in this league. When
he who is he talking about that? That's what I

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want to know, because I off the top of my head,
I'm gonna name I'm gonna just named ten, and you
tell me who's not part of that seventh or eight.
I gonna say Davante Adams. I'm gonna say DeAndre Hopkins.
I'm gonna say Cooper Cup, I'm gonna say Deebo. I'm
gonna say Justin Jefferson. I won't even Debo in there.
I'm I'm gonna say Jamaar Chase there, I'm gonna say

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Stefan Diggs. I'm gonna say Marie Cooper. I'm gonna say
Tyreek Hill. I'm gonna say Keenan Allen. So you tell
me who's coming out of that Mike Evans. Who's coming
out of that Mike Evans? I would take Mike Evans out.
I'm gonna take I'm sorry. I think Deebo's dope football player,
but I mean, DeAndre Hopkins is one of my favorite
w I receivers. I don't think he's a great runner,

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but he creates separations. So has hey, Hey, DeAndre Hopkins
is gonna y'all gonna see something different. He getting out
here with your boy in September, You're gonna see something
different out of him. He's gonna be fighting. He's gonna
be fighting in the game. You know. Yeah, I'm I'm
gonna try to teach you some things. Just just add

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to his game. You know this, like in your career,
you're gonna do what you do, just add to it.
Right Oh, right there, I say what you did right there?
You definitely was a dope route runner. I ain't gonna
hold you on that. I mean, there's so many guys.
Is Mike Thomas, is Chris Godwin, is Harry mc right,
there's some guys. But what what Stefan Day is like

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receivers and no receivers. Like, there's some guys they just
get stats because they get they get the targets. When
the defense called man and man bump and run and
they gotta go out and then go off. Stefan Days
in Devonte Adams, they don't want to go out and
then press them. God, listen, this is how you know.
Just watch watch football. The coaches that line up in
stack and motion, their guys they don't believe their receivers

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can get off press. That's why they line up in
stack and they do that motion. When your coaches leave
you out wide, they okay, he can win. The coaches
that don't do that, they don't believe in you. That's
one thing about you. Gotta be bumping run if you
want to. They don't believe in you. Well, time flies
when you're having fun. Man, I ain't gonna lie that
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