July 31, 2024 • 18 mins
George Noory and Dr. Efrat Shokef discuss her near death experience following a devastating car crash, her encounter with the spirit of her dead grandfather, and how the profound sense of love she felt on the other side changed her life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast the Thought. Shokef with
us PhD, received her degree from the Israel Institute of
Technology and Social Organizational Psychology. Is also a full Bride alumni.
She was profoundly transformed by a near fatal car crash
and simultaneous near death experience. A Drawing from the profound
(00:27):
insights of her after life encounter, she infuses the beauty
and wisdom gained into her roles as a mother, writer, teacher,
and healer. Guiding both of our own family and numerous clients.
Doctor Shokef invites parents to rediscover their soul's purpose and
shared agreements as well. The name of her new book
(00:49):
is called The Promise We Made. Who website is linked
up at Coast TOCOASTAM dot com. If hought, welcome doctor,
How are you doctor? Are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hi there? How are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Wonderful to be here?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Great? Well welcome? How are things in Israel these days?
We're hearing all kinds of stories.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, I think, if I take a birth's perspective, things
are very sad, confusing, more chaos and alignments, and I'm
trusting my country and it's beautiful people of all religions
and all nationalities to find their hearts again, that we
would all together find our hearts again, remember how humanity
(01:35):
and make sure that all children, regardless of who they are,
weren't to have a roof, have food, have health, have education,
and can play around outside safely.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, our hearts are broken with what we just heard
about those twelve children that just got killed. Horrible.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Indeed, indeed, indeed it's horrible, and it's it's a war
that I sometimes feel is led by ancient contracts that
need to be resolved and let go of, and that
we need to not think of what happened, but think
of the now in the future and take responsibility all
(02:14):
of us and brings the change, which is very hard
when people are grabbing into old paradigms. But I think
there are a lot of people from again all nationalities, Israelis, Jewish, Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Jews,
Palastines that are holding a vision for a different reality
(02:36):
in the Middle East. So I'm holding to that dream
and praying for those who and sadly we know personality,
we have personal connections that have lost as well, just
praying for each one of them to be brave and
to choose forward and not revenge as we've been experiencing
(02:56):
all sides.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I mean, the worst that could happen is a full
scale war in the Middle East. We all pray that
that does not happen.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yes, and it's fun do any good. It's not going
to take us forward, So yeah, I'm really praying it's
not going to happen. And we're focusing on cultivating inner safety,
an inner sense of luminous spiritual safety that holds us
in our walk and in our lives and do what
we can.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We are friends with Urry Geller. He's a great guy.
Do you know him out there?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Not sure?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
No, I don't think the psychic mystic event spoons with
his mind.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, so I've heard of him. I have
a friend who works with him. Don't know you personally,
good guy.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
All right, tell us about your near fatal car crash.
Where did that happen? When did it happen? What happened.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
About a little over thirteen years ago? My daughters were
still maybe my twins were thirteen months old and my
head older, and that day I brought her to her daycare.
My twins stayed home with my mom. It was only
day I was working at that time, teaching, and I
(04:13):
don't remember a lot from what happened before I took
my time. It was a really, really beautiful day, and
I have a memory of having a hard time turning
left into the main road from the small village where
the daycare was. And the next thing was the boom,
just the sense of the boom. I don't remember the
car coming towards me. I don't remember the actual crash.
(04:38):
The other car slipped to the right because it was
a wet day, and she tried to turn left and
turn in her turn left, she bumped into me. We're
actually very good friends now, but that's a different piece
of the story. And immediately I was out of my body.
But I was out of my body, not floating about
(04:59):
the car crash or seeing what was going on. I
was far away into UH And I mentioned that I
refer to today as the mention of cosmic love. I
think that's where we all not necessarily come from, but
that we're all passed through. That they mentioned when on
our way to Earth and on our way back.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
To our homes and could you see your body a front.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Now. I didn't see my body. Only later when I
came back and I was coming in and out, I
could see the car. I could see the fire at
the front engine. I could see them taking care of me,
not even I didn't even realize it was me, But
that came much later, my first experience of just being
(05:46):
and in the luminous, shimmering light of love. I didn't
see my body. I didn't see the car. I didn't
understand or have any awareness that I was injured in
a car crash that I left my body where I was.
I knew I was somewhere amazing, beautiful, enveloping, accepting I've
(06:11):
never I didn't. I didn't have any memory of feeling
this way ever in this lifetime. And it was this
so it felt like a new place, but it was
also somewhere I knew I've visited before, and I know
and I think we all do.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yees, did you see other beans there?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yes? As I was, I was floating in this luminous
feather cloud, luminosity, shimmering light. I noticed I was floating
forward and that with me there were other beings that
were floating forward. And then there were other is that
(07:00):
came from the other directions and the others that came
from other directions. Some of them had a more humane form.
Some of them were really really luminous and long. There
was one that was very clearly more of an orb
of light than any any human kind of figure that
we can think of. And they were floating forward and
(07:21):
embracing those that were floating with me or before me,
were after me, and it was a beautiful, beautiful to see.
It was a loving encounter, like a welcoming group, like
a soul group. Guidance, I can assume which who they are,
based at what I saw, on what I know now,
(07:41):
and they would invelop those who are coming, and then
they would float forward with them, And that continuously happened
with those that floated with me and floated after me.
Only later I realized that these were souls that finished
their journey and their journey, and they were going back home.
Finished the journey. I mean, they died in this earthly plane,
(08:03):
and they were going back home, and they were welcomed
by beings, by soul that they would recognize and that
would make this return home comfortable. But I wasn't able
to float forward with him. There was like this invisible
barrier I could not cross, and in the first second,
(08:24):
no one was coming towards me, until at some point
I noticed one figure floating towards me, which I recognized
as my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Was he there to help you?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He was there for to help me and to guide me.
It felt like the energy of my grandfather. That's the recognition,
that's the memory I carried. But then later on, as
I started to work with the abilities and the dimensions
that my ability to travel into other dimensions that opened
up in my new desk experience, I realized, I'm meeting
(09:02):
this frequency. You know, we recognize energy by frequency. I'm
meeting this frequency again and again and again. So sometimes
I wonder was it my grandfather or was it my
high guidance taking the frequency or the essence or pieces
that I would recognize as my grandfather so that I
would feel comfortable and trust and allow. And I was
(09:25):
taken after a loving encounter and uh, and that uh
confirmation that everything was okay and that I'm accepted and
everything is just love. An amazing, amazing meeting of connected
souls and with a telepathic communication. Because we don't use
(09:46):
words for a thought. It's like it's more of a
part of art energy exchange. He guided me to a
shimmering balcony. It's really really large balcony, white balcony, and
we most of the time we stood in the same spot.
So I don't know if like Earth moved below us
or the fashon he moved above, and I was just
(10:08):
guided to see every aspect of humanity that you can
think of.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
How long in terms of Earth time do you think
you were out of your body?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So the estimat is around seven minutes based on someone
who didn't see the car crash happened, but arrived immediately
after that and was standing my buy me until the
paramedics came, and he said I was rolling my eyes,
barely breathing, that he was sure I was going to leave,
and that took about seven seven minutes until I suddenly
(10:43):
was able to answer his question. He was asking me
whether my babies were in the car with me, because
he saw the basis of the clicks and next at
the back seat, and he was afraid one of them
flew out of the car, so he kept asking and
I kept trying to answer him, but he did not
hear my answers. Once I came back, I tried to
answer him until I suddenly had a few seconds of
(11:06):
really strange clarity. Gave him my husband said, no babies
were in the car. Gave him my husband's phone number,
told him to call him to have him come. We
lived very close to the location of the car crash,
and I and then I left my body again usual
seven minutes. It felt like a few days of seeing
(11:28):
Earth and Earth and Earth and the goods and the
very very sad aspects of us humans being confused and
making really really unaligned choices.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Did did they take you to the hospital?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yes? Yes, they called in a helicopter to take me
to the hospital because I had multiple injuries and I
had no chance of getting of making it otherwise because
drives with an avalanche would have taken too long.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
As they took you away in the helicopter. Where was
your out of body moment at that time? Did you
follow the helicopter? Did you go back to your body?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
By the time after the earthly seven minutes in which
I was seeing Earth on its elements, my guide, my grandfather,
clearly told me it was like a suddenly, Okay, we've
seen what you can absorb. That wasn't being said, that's
me adding it now. And now he said it's not
(12:33):
your time. You have to go back now. And it
wasn't a choice giving to me to stay in Thissmas
beautiful place, which I'd returned to later in many way,
in many other ways. And I fell back into my body.
And from that moment I fell back into my body.
I was coming in and out. And that's when I
had that less than a minute conversation with a man
(12:55):
that was standing by me until the paramedics came. And
that's what happened during the alic and during my stay
in the hospital, in the ice you, I was in
an induced comma. I was coming in and out, so
I was it was not possible to stay in my body.
You know, when we when our soul fills pain and
is stressed and it's not safer to be in the body,
(13:16):
we fly out. That a part of some of the
explanation for some of it out of body experiences. So
I was floating in and out, and some of those
pieces I saw, like what happened when they evacuated me.
But then I was really really strong painkillers and I
don't have a lot of memories from when I was
in the hospital and in the ICU and the induced comma.
(13:41):
I think I was reliving what everything that I saw
in those short, perthly minutes, but out of time, beyond time,
days of experiencing humanity.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Now, when you say that you have been back in
and out of your body since, then, do you ask
to project that will what happened?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So? At first I would. As I was recovering, I
was resting and resting and resting. I wasn't able to
do anything, eat, walk nothing. I was like a.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Baby physically physically, if what was wrong with you with
the accident? What happened physically?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
A lot of broken bones all over my body. A
lot of internal organs that were wounded needed to be
taken out. They had to open a stoma because my
intention even testings were a mess that was later close.
My jaw was out of place. I couldn't talk for
it to eat, I wasn't able to walk, a lot
(14:46):
of internal injuries and broken bones, like a multiple injuries.
I was injured all over from from head to toe
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Now back to these other experiences.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
What in so I was? I was resting and I
think that what in distance. At the beginning were two things.
It was really painful to be in my body, so
I was getting away from it. And the other thing
that induced it was that like a maget that was
pulling me back to is this amazing, beautiful space I
(15:20):
just visited during the car crash, I was constantly not
in control. It was just happening going back there. Sometimes
it was just in my mind. Sometimes I felt that
actual projection and my body, and I could watch my
body and as I as time progressed, I learned to
(15:43):
control that. So if I had to go for a
medical intervention in the hospital, which I had a lot of,
I could lower the pain level by leaving my body
or by using that connection. I would really I was
focused into that luminous love that I visited, the mention
of cosmic love, and I would be there in my
(16:05):
energy and I wouldn't feel the pain in my body.
And I learned how to control that ability of coming
in and out. And then I noticed I mediate healing
for others, very small little things, and I decided to
study shamanic practices and tramanic tools. Dramanic tools opened the
(16:29):
door for shamanic journeying and brought a lot of structure
to what I was doing, and traumanic journeying and dramatic journeying.
We can journey. We expand our aluminus field without leaving
our body, which is amazing. We're present, we expand our
aluminus field, and we can tap into those amazing dimensions,
so I can go back there as many times as
(16:50):
I want to without leaving my body.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
At one point, did you encounter extraterrestrials?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I think there are two times. First, in my first
visit during the near death experiences, not everyone was human.
It wasn't just souls that come to visit Earth and
dress and take that human form that we know from
our lifetime here. There were other beings as well, and
(17:18):
I remember watching them and feeling very very comfortable that
it's all that's who we are, you know. It's like
we see the difference doesn't have any meaning. Where we
all come here to a journey on Earth, and regardless
of where we come from, it doesn't matter. So that
was the first encounter, and a simple one.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Would you have had many?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The next one was not I did not meet anyone
on the earthly claim, but I have visited many other
dimensions and planets during using shamanic journey and using my
ability to travel the.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Osma, And you're still doing.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It where I met others?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Are you still doing it?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
If I need to, I do that, Yes, if I'm
sent to for a healing for someone mediate healing, I
don't do that just for you know, just for exploration
or fun. I did do that for a while when
I was learning the map of the Cosmos and how
to travel and where to travel. But if I need
to go somewhere because I'm guided to as part of
(18:31):
mediating healings and New York.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast the Thought. Shokef with
us PhD, received her degree from the Israel Institute of
Technology and Social Organizational Psychology. Is also a full Bride alumni.
She was profoundly transformed by a near fatal car crash
and simultaneous near death experience. A Drawing from the profound
(00:27):
insights of her after life encounter, she infuses the beauty
and wisdom gained into her roles as a mother, writer, teacher,
and healer. Guiding both of our own family and numerous clients.
Doctor Shokef invites parents to rediscover their soul's purpose and
shared agreements as well. The name of her new book
(00:49):
is called The Promise We Made. Who website is linked
up at Coast TOCOASTAM dot com. If hought, welcome doctor,
How are you doctor? Are you there?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hi there? How are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Wonderful to be here?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Great? Well welcome? How are things in Israel these days?
We're hearing all kinds of stories.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, I think, if I take a birth's perspective, things
are very sad, confusing, more chaos and alignments, and I'm
trusting my country and it's beautiful people of all religions
and all nationalities to find their hearts again, that we
would all together find our hearts again, remember how humanity
(01:35):
and make sure that all children, regardless of who they are,
weren't to have a roof, have food, have health, have education,
and can play around outside safely.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, our hearts are broken with what we just heard
about those twelve children that just got killed. Horrible.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Indeed, indeed, indeed it's horrible, and it's it's a war
that I sometimes feel is led by ancient contracts that
need to be resolved and let go of, and that
we need to not think of what happened, but think
of the now in the future and take responsibility all
(02:14):
of us and brings the change, which is very hard
when people are grabbing into old paradigms. But I think
there are a lot of people from again all nationalities, Israelis, Jewish, Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Jews,
Palastines that are holding a vision for a different reality
(02:36):
in the Middle East. So I'm holding to that dream
and praying for those who and sadly we know personality,
we have personal connections that have lost as well, just
praying for each one of them to be brave and
to choose forward and not revenge as we've been experiencing
(02:56):
all sides.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I mean, the worst that could happen is a full
scale war in the Middle East. We all pray that
that does not happen.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yes, and it's fun do any good. It's not going
to take us forward, So yeah, I'm really praying it's
not going to happen. And we're focusing on cultivating inner safety,
an inner sense of luminous spiritual safety that holds us
in our walk and in our lives and do what
we can.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We are friends with Urry Geller. He's a great guy.
Do you know him out there?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Not sure?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
No, I don't think the psychic mystic event spoons with
his mind.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, so I've heard of him. I have
a friend who works with him. Don't know you personally,
good guy.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
All right, tell us about your near fatal car crash.
Where did that happen? When did it happen? What happened.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
About a little over thirteen years ago? My daughters were
still maybe my twins were thirteen months old and my
head older, and that day I brought her to her daycare.
My twins stayed home with my mom. It was only
day I was working at that time, teaching, and I
(04:13):
don't remember a lot from what happened before I took
my time. It was a really, really beautiful day, and
I have a memory of having a hard time turning
left into the main road from the small village where
the daycare was. And the next thing was the boom,
just the sense of the boom. I don't remember the
car coming towards me. I don't remember the actual crash.
(04:38):
The other car slipped to the right because it was
a wet day, and she tried to turn left and
turn in her turn left, she bumped into me. We're
actually very good friends now, but that's a different piece
of the story. And immediately I was out of my body.
But I was out of my body, not floating about
(04:59):
the car crash or seeing what was going on. I
was far away into UH And I mentioned that I
refer to today as the mention of cosmic love. I
think that's where we all not necessarily come from, but
that we're all passed through. That they mentioned when on
our way to Earth and on our way back.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
To our homes and could you see your body a front.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Now. I didn't see my body. Only later when I
came back and I was coming in and out, I
could see the car. I could see the fire at
the front engine. I could see them taking care of me,
not even I didn't even realize it was me, But
that came much later, my first experience of just being
(05:46):
and in the luminous, shimmering light of love. I didn't
see my body. I didn't see the car. I didn't
understand or have any awareness that I was injured in
a car crash that I left my body where I was.
I knew I was somewhere amazing, beautiful, enveloping, accepting I've
(06:11):
never I didn't. I didn't have any memory of feeling
this way ever in this lifetime. And it was this
so it felt like a new place, but it was
also somewhere I knew I've visited before, and I know
and I think we all do.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yees, did you see other beans there?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yes? As I was, I was floating in this luminous
feather cloud, luminosity, shimmering light. I noticed I was floating
forward and that with me there were other beings that
were floating forward. And then there were other is that
(07:00):
came from the other directions and the others that came
from other directions. Some of them had a more humane form.
Some of them were really really luminous and long. There
was one that was very clearly more of an orb
of light than any any human kind of figure that
we can think of. And they were floating forward and
(07:21):
embracing those that were floating with me or before me,
were after me, and it was a beautiful, beautiful to see.
It was a loving encounter, like a welcoming group, like
a soul group. Guidance, I can assume which who they are,
based at what I saw, on what I know now,
(07:41):
and they would invelop those who are coming, and then
they would float forward with them, And that continuously happened
with those that floated with me and floated after me.
Only later I realized that these were souls that finished
their journey and their journey, and they were going back home.
Finished the journey. I mean, they died in this earthly plane,
(08:03):
and they were going back home, and they were welcomed
by beings, by soul that they would recognize and that
would make this return home comfortable. But I wasn't able
to float forward with him. There was like this invisible
barrier I could not cross, and in the first second,
(08:24):
no one was coming towards me, until at some point
I noticed one figure floating towards me, which I recognized
as my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Was he there to help you?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He was there for to help me and to guide me.
It felt like the energy of my grandfather. That's the recognition,
that's the memory I carried. But then later on, as
I started to work with the abilities and the dimensions
that my ability to travel into other dimensions that opened
up in my new desk experience, I realized, I'm meeting
(09:02):
this frequency. You know, we recognize energy by frequency. I'm
meeting this frequency again and again and again. So sometimes
I wonder was it my grandfather or was it my
high guidance taking the frequency or the essence or pieces
that I would recognize as my grandfather so that I
would feel comfortable and trust and allow. And I was
(09:25):
taken after a loving encounter and uh, and that uh
confirmation that everything was okay and that I'm accepted and
everything is just love. An amazing, amazing meeting of connected
souls and with a telepathic communication. Because we don't use
(09:46):
words for a thought. It's like it's more of a
part of art energy exchange. He guided me to a
shimmering balcony. It's really really large balcony, white balcony, and
we most of the time we stood in the same spot.
So I don't know if like Earth moved below us
or the fashon he moved above, and I was just
(10:08):
guided to see every aspect of humanity that you can
think of.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
How long in terms of Earth time do you think
you were out of your body?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So the estimat is around seven minutes based on someone
who didn't see the car crash happened, but arrived immediately
after that and was standing my buy me until the
paramedics came, and he said I was rolling my eyes,
barely breathing, that he was sure I was going to leave,
and that took about seven seven minutes until I suddenly
(10:43):
was able to answer his question. He was asking me
whether my babies were in the car with me, because
he saw the basis of the clicks and next at
the back seat, and he was afraid one of them
flew out of the car, so he kept asking and
I kept trying to answer him, but he did not
hear my answers. Once I came back, I tried to
answer him until I suddenly had a few seconds of
(11:06):
really strange clarity. Gave him my husband said, no babies
were in the car. Gave him my husband's phone number,
told him to call him to have him come. We
lived very close to the location of the car crash,
and I and then I left my body again usual
seven minutes. It felt like a few days of seeing
(11:28):
Earth and Earth and Earth and the goods and the
very very sad aspects of us humans being confused and
making really really unaligned choices.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Did did they take you to the hospital?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yes? Yes, they called in a helicopter to take me
to the hospital because I had multiple injuries and I
had no chance of getting of making it otherwise because
drives with an avalanche would have taken too long.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
As they took you away in the helicopter. Where was
your out of body moment at that time? Did you
follow the helicopter? Did you go back to your body?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
By the time after the earthly seven minutes in which
I was seeing Earth on its elements, my guide, my grandfather,
clearly told me it was like a suddenly, Okay, we've
seen what you can absorb. That wasn't being said, that's
me adding it now. And now he said it's not
(12:33):
your time. You have to go back now. And it
wasn't a choice giving to me to stay in Thissmas
beautiful place, which I'd returned to later in many way,
in many other ways. And I fell back into my body.
And from that moment I fell back into my body.
I was coming in and out. And that's when I
had that less than a minute conversation with a man
(12:55):
that was standing by me until the paramedics came. And
that's what happened during the alic and during my stay
in the hospital, in the ice you, I was in
an induced comma. I was coming in and out, so
I was it was not possible to stay in my body.
You know, when we when our soul fills pain and
is stressed and it's not safer to be in the body,
(13:16):
we fly out. That a part of some of the
explanation for some of it out of body experiences. So
I was floating in and out, and some of those
pieces I saw, like what happened when they evacuated me.
But then I was really really strong painkillers and I
don't have a lot of memories from when I was
in the hospital and in the ICU and the induced comma.
(13:41):
I think I was reliving what everything that I saw
in those short, perthly minutes, but out of time, beyond time,
days of experiencing humanity.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Now, when you say that you have been back in
and out of your body since, then, do you ask
to project that will what happened?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
So? At first I would. As I was recovering, I
was resting and resting and resting. I wasn't able to
do anything, eat, walk nothing. I was like a.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Baby physically physically, if what was wrong with you with
the accident? What happened physically?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
A lot of broken bones all over my body. A
lot of internal organs that were wounded needed to be
taken out. They had to open a stoma because my
intention even testings were a mess that was later close.
My jaw was out of place. I couldn't talk for
it to eat, I wasn't able to walk, a lot
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of internal injuries and broken bones, like a multiple injuries.
I was injured all over from from head to toe
all right.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Now back to these other experiences.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
What in so I was? I was resting and I
think that what in distance. At the beginning were two things.
It was really painful to be in my body, so
I was getting away from it. And the other thing
that induced it was that like a maget that was
pulling me back to is this amazing, beautiful space I
(15:20):
just visited during the car crash, I was constantly not
in control. It was just happening going back there. Sometimes
it was just in my mind. Sometimes I felt that
actual projection and my body, and I could watch my
body and as I as time progressed, I learned to
(15:43):
control that. So if I had to go for a
medical intervention in the hospital, which I had a lot of,
I could lower the pain level by leaving my body
or by using that connection. I would really I was
focused into that luminous love that I visited, the mention
of cosmic love, and I would be there in my
(16:05):
energy and I wouldn't feel the pain in my body.
And I learned how to control that ability of coming
in and out. And then I noticed I mediate healing
for others, very small little things, and I decided to
study shamanic practices and tramanic tools. Dramanic tools opened the
(16:29):
door for shamanic journeying and brought a lot of structure
to what I was doing, and traumanic journeying and dramatic journeying.
We can journey. We expand our aluminus field without leaving
our body, which is amazing. We're present, we expand our
aluminus field, and we can tap into those amazing dimensions,
so I can go back there as many times as
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I want to without leaving my body.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
At one point, did you encounter extraterrestrials?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I think there are two times. First, in my first
visit during the near death experiences, not everyone was human.
It wasn't just souls that come to visit Earth and
dress and take that human form that we know from
our lifetime here. There were other beings as well, and
(17:18):
I remember watching them and feeling very very comfortable that
it's all that's who we are, you know. It's like
we see the difference doesn't have any meaning. Where we
all come here to a journey on Earth, and regardless
of where we come from, it doesn't matter. So that
was the first encounter, and a simple one.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Would you have had many?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
The next one was not I did not meet anyone
on the earthly claim, but I have visited many other
dimensions and planets during using shamanic journey and using my
ability to travel the.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Osma, And you're still doing.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
It where I met others?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Are you still doing it?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
If I need to, I do that, Yes, if I'm
sent to for a healing for someone mediate healing, I
don't do that just for you know, just for exploration
or fun. I did do that for a while when
I was learning the map of the Cosmos and how
to travel and where to travel. But if I need
to go somewhere because I'm guided to as part of
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mediating healings and New York.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
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