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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
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will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. You may
wonder why I pick certain topics for each episode, and
the truth is, as a human being, I deal with
the same things you deal with the hopes and fears, anxiety, frustrations,
moments of joy, excitement, all of it. Before recording, I
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put a little prayer out to who's ever listening and
ask for some stories that'll make a difference both for
you and for me. This episode, I'm fully aware of
some of the fear and struggles and worry that many
people have going on in their lives right now. Turn
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on the news and it will really stir it up
and turn our concerns to high volume. If you're a
super fan of this show, you've already heard the story
written by Jane. She says, I remember an incident that
happened when I was in my sophomore year of pre
med studies. I've always been interested in healing because my
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mother had died years earlier, and I'd been exposed to
many physicians and hospital settings. Yet while I knew I
wanted to be a doctor, I was overcome by fear
and doubt about whether or not I could make it
through the years of school. I was devastated when I
got the news that my father had been diagnosed with
gastric cancer. Although I was focused on my studies, I
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decided to take a leave of absence to help him
fight the disease. As I stepped onto the cancer roller coaster,
I was committed to facing the difficult challenges that were ahead,
and quickly learned that it wasn't only an emotional drain,
but also a financial one, since there were many necessary
treatments that our health insurance didn't cover. Before all of
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this happened, I been getting ready for the medical college
admission test and was overcome with fear and anxiety. I
knew this one exam could make or break my career
in medicine. But as my father's condition grew worse, I
realized that my plan to take off a semester wasn't realistic.
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This was going to be a much worse ordeal than
I had imagined. I realized that I had to face
the fact that cancer had spread and my dad was dying.
It turned out that I was terrified of losing him
as he was dying. My father had always been a
fearful person, but my mother had known how to calm
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his fears. I'd taken over that role years ago, but
Dad and I only had each other. I couldn't imagine
my life without him. Late one night, when i'd fallen
asleep on the couch next to my father's bed. I
woke up hearing his voice. I looked over and saw
him reaching toward the ceiling. Dad, what's going on? What
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are you reaching for? She's here? Who your mother? She's
right here? I was in awe. Could it be true?
Was it possible that she was actually in the room? Dad?
I said, what's mom saying? Tell her how much I
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miss her. My father was mesmerized by whatever he was
gazing upon, but then he started speaking, she wants us
to know that there's nothing to fear. There was never
anything to fear. She's been watching over us, and she
loves how you've been taking care of me. Now she'll
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be watching over you and your family. There is nothing
to be afraid of. I wondered what family my mother
was talking about. After all, I was single and my
dad was dying. When he died the next day, I
took little comfort in the words he said. Both of
my parents were now gone, and I felt utterly alone.
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To make things worse, my savings were diminished and I
had no hope of paying for medical school. I transferred
to a local college and went on to earn my
degree in psychology. I became a counselor with a private practice,
and I met the man I would marry. Within a
few years, I had a wonderful husband and two healthy children.
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I knew this was the family that my mother said
she'd be watching over. Today, nearly seventeen years after my
father's death, my kids are teenagers, and I'm still inspired
by my dad's vision. I recall my mother's words, there's
nothing to fear, and there never was. And now I
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realized that fear doesn't stop death, it stops life. After
I was ultimately able to overcome my own fears and doubts,
I went back to school to prepare for that test
that I had begun to study for so many years ago.
I now see that while my father's illness temporarily stopped
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me from going after my dreams, his vision of my
mother's encouragement brought my dreams back to life. Those words
really got to me. And I know you're dealing with
your own fears and anxieties, and I love this sentence.
She wants us to know that there's nothing to fear,
and there was never anything to fear. Those are easy
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words to say, but it's hard to do. I've often
heard the best way to deal with fear is just
to plow right through it. And I've also witnessed that
the hardest part of fear is what happens in our heads.
When we're so present and in action, the fear goes away.
It's only when we stop and we start thinking about
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it again that fear comes back. In Author Neil Donald
Walsh says, life begins at the end of your comfort zone.
I love that, and I'm sure you have testimonies. But
things you've overcome, and how grateful you are that you
did those things. Mark Twain said this, twenty years from now,
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you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't
do than by the things you did do. So throw
off the bow lines, sail away from safe harbor, catch
the trade winds in your sales, explore, dream, discover, and
William shed said a ship in the harbor is safe,
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but that is not what ships are built for. You
and I, my friend, well, we are ships in this
thing called life. And while we're together today, I want
you to hear some near death experience stories that talk
about such fears, and I'm hoping that they empower you
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to go after your dreams to realize that we are
being supported by loved ones in this invisible space around us.
We can't see them, but they're here. And what Jane's
mother said, there's nothing to fear. Our first story is
by author Rosemary Thornton, who not just was a survivor
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of her husband's suicide, but she herself had cancer. Her
story tells us we don't need to be afraid, and
miracles are possible.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I had a minor medical procedure done, a cervical biopsy,
and the expectation was it would take less than thirty
minutes and i'd be home that night and ready to
eat dinner and no big deal. But it actually unfolded
very differently. After the biopsy, I was put in recovery
and I noticed I was bleeding profusely, and I summoned
the RN and said, something's gone wrong, and she reassured
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me three times despite my protests, that everything was just fine.
They sent me home, and at home, I realized that
I was bleeding profusely and it was not getting any better.
So I asked my friend who had driven me home,
to summon an ambulance because I realized given the great
quantity of blood and the speed with which I was
losing it that I thought I might be dying. So
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he summoned an ambulance and they came and took me
to an er that was not far from my home,
and at the er had a very young doctor, and
I think she was a bit afraid. She didn't really
seem to know what she was doing. And I continued
to bleed, and they just packed some gauze and left
me alone in the room. They'd given me some Delauded
for pain in an IV and then walked out of
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the room, leaving me alone with my friend. And I
lost consciousness soon after that delauded, and I was actually unconscious.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
When I died.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And I woke up at the moment my heart stopped,
and my very first thought was my heart has stopped.
And I was literally floating further and further away from
my body, and I thought, how do I know my
my heart has stopped? And I thought, boy, I don't
know how I know, but I know that's right. And
then as I'm continuing to float away from my body,
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I thought, boy, my whole life, I've wondered what it
would be like to die, what would take me out?
And now it's happened, and it was no big deal.
And I remember thinking, I wish I'd known what a
non big deal this was, and I wouldn't have been
so afraid as a writer. I thought to myself, Wow,
I'm dying. And then I said, no, actually, you're not dying.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You're dead.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And it made me laugh out loud, literally, and I
heard myself giggle, and I thought, what exactly did I
leave behind on that gurney. I'm giggling. I'm thinking, I
can see, I can hear, all my senses are intact.
It was very remarkable to realize there really is no death.
Not is there no death, but everything we are, even
our funny little giggle, goes with us. The most remarkable
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aspect of my near death experience, and by the way
I call it my temporary death, I wasn't near death.
I had no heart beat, no blood pressure, nothing for
more than ten minutes. I prefer to think of it
as temporary death. But during that time I was impressed
beyond words by how much peace and calm I felt.
If you could take the most perfect peace a human
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being could ever imagine and multiply it by a million,
I don't think that would touch what I experienced, and
that peace was so profound in life changing. And I remember,
as I was again floating in the darkness, I remember
thinking I should be afraid. I don't like the dark,
and I thought I should be afraid. But I have
the most perfect peace I've ever known. And that's one
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of the reasons I had no intention of going back
as a writer. As a creative person, I have always
suffered from profound anxiety, and subsequent to my husband's tragic death,
it seemed like that was multiplied one hundredfold. All that
anxiety was gone. And while I was wondering what exactly
did I leave behind on that gurney, I realized I
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left behind the fear, the worries, the anxiety. And I
thought of always wondered what I would look like when
I had no anxiety and no fear and no worries,
and I thought, this is great, this is wonderful. So
I was floating through that blackness and I thought about
the Bible verse the piece that passeth all understanding, and
I thought, this is what Paul was talking about. This
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is the piece that words could never describe. It passes
all the understanding we have as human beings. It was
so profound. It still is very touching to me. That
piece I felt. And at one point early on in
the experience, shortly after I passed, I thought, I'm having
a great time. I'm alone, but I'm having a great time.
I remember thinking, I like floating. Floating is fun, this
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is great. And as a writer, that's horrible. That's horrible text.
I should have been using bigger words, more expressive language.
But how is the best I could do?
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No fear, no anxiety. That sounds like heaven. Oh yes
it was. We'll be right back with more of Rosemary's story.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Let's continue with Rosemary's near death experience and her surprising healing.
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I sensed a massive spiritual presence with me just to
my left and slightly behind me. Well, I'm still floating
in this blackness and having the time of my life
literally and I turned my head to the left and
a little bit up, and I said, and who are you?
And the answer was immediate. The answer was you, Rosemary.
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You are the image and likeness. I'm the original. And
I thought wow. And for many years of my life,
I've studied Genesis, specifically First Genesis, and that's the language
of the Bible from First Genesis twenty five and twenty
six that were made in God's image and likeness. But
these words came with an infusion of knowledge. It wasn't
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mere words. The Bible talks about in the beginning. Was
the word and I thought about that that this is
what that meant. These were words that came with all
the power that created the universe, And I thought, wow,
could this possibly get any better? Because now I understand
I'm the image and likeness. It was an experience. I
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know people say this often that words can't describe, but
I was having such a good time and I felt, honestly,
my life has not been an easy one, and I
was so grateful that at age fifty it was over
that it almost felt like I'd been granted an early
release for good behavior. And now I was on my
way back home. And that was a profound feeling was
that I was just going home. I didn't want to
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go back to Earth at all. It never even crossed
my mind about coming back. I literally remember thanking God
that I was done, that I had done what I
needed to do, and I was now moving home. And
at some point it's almost like somebody took my batteries out.
There's a complete blank from being in that blackness to
being in a white room. And it was a beautiful room,
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but it was pure white. The walls, the ceiling, the
floor were like luminescent, purlescent white, white white. I was
in this room, and I don't remember the transition from
floating in that blackness to the white and that white room.
I was told I was there for healing, that whether
I went back or whether I went on, we can't
go to heaven with burdens and sadness and sickness. So
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I thought, okay, well, this is great. I like the
white room, and being an architectural storian, I looked around
for lights and there were no lights. It was just
the walls were illuminated from within, and I saw a
door at the other side of the room, and I decided,
I don't know if I have feet or legs, but
I'm going to perambulate toward that door. And it was
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almost as though just with the intention, I started moving
toward the door, and I knew where the door was
my whole life. I've studied near death experiences and read
the books, and I knew the door meant that there
was no coming back, that that was crossing the rubicon.
So I eagerly scooted toward the door at best possible
speed because I was done. And at the door, I paused. Oh,
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I paused, and I asked, is this the divine will
for my life? That a simple slip of the surgical
knife takes me out? And the answer was no. But
the answer also was, but whatever you decide, if you
decide to go forward or you decide to go back,
whatever decision you make, you go with all of God's
grace and mercy and blessings and love. There isn't a
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wrong decision. And that was immensely comforting because two and
a half years prior to this event, my husband had
come home for lunch one day and ended his life
at our home, and I had been suffering from so
many pains from that experience suicide survivors have burdens that
most people can't imagine. But there have been so many
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difficult decisions to make, and one of my daily prayers was, God,
I can't make any more decisions. These decisions all hurt
so much and are so tough, and all have such
enormous consequences. So I felt like God had heard my
prayers and saying, Okay, you don't have to make a
tough decision. There's not a wrong decision here, and that
meant the world to me. And my other daily prayer
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had been either let me die in my sleep or
heal me. But the pain occasioned by my husband's horrific
suicide had cost me more grief and agony and suffering
than I could ever enumerate with words, So I felt
like those prayers had been answered too, that I had
passed in relative peace and it was over. And my
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other prayer had been that I would not have a
life review. Having gone through this once, I did not
want to experience it again, and I did not have
a life review. Opened my eyes to how prayers a
petition are also powerful, powerful prayers, So at that door,
I was so grateful to hear that there wasn't a
bad decision. There wasn't a wrong decision. So I reached
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for the doorknob, and I had a memory come to
me of the nurse that had stood by my side
when I was in that emergency room. She had held
my hand as I was bleeding out before I lost consciousness.
I had exacted a promise from her that she wasn't
going to let me die, and she said, oh, honey,
we're not going to let you die. We have many
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solutions for this. So at that door, as I reached
for that door to move on, that image of that
nurse came to mind, and I had a vision of her.
I saw her sitting on a stool in a hospital
supply room with her head in her hands, sobbing un
controllably and saying, I promised that woman I wasn't going
to let her die. And I lost her, And especially
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after all the grief and pain I'd known for my
husband's death, I thought, I don't think I can do
that to somebody. I don't think I can inflict that
much pain on somebody else. And I was still wondering,
maybe I can. I can just go on, because I
need to go. I'm ready to go, and then I
felt her pain. I didn't just see it, I felt
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it internally, and it swamped me. It was like somebody
hit me in the chest with the pain, and I
realized I could not do that. I felt her pain
and it was so overwhelming and so painful. I realized
I had to go back. So I literally had my
right hand on that door to push through and go on,
and I literally put my right hand back at my side,
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still pretty interested by the fact that I was right
handed in heaven, but I thought, if I die, this
is going to ruin her day, which she'd get over it,
I realized now. But in a millisecond of a millisecond,
I was back on that gurney in the er with
a lot of activity happening all around me. And I
was in the hospital for several days because I'd lost
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so much blood, my heart had stopped, which was very affirming.
They told me the next day my heart had stopped.
I had a heart attack occasioned by the lack of blood,
and there was an expectation that there'd be all kinds
of serious after effects from this. The heart attack they
believed had done significant damage to my heart and kidneys,
and liver.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
And on and on and on.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
But I told them at every step of the way,
the Angel said, if I agreed to come back, I'd
come back hole and healthy. They did their test anyway,
and all the tests affirmed that I had come back
completely whole and without any lingering effects. And at the
time of my death, I had been diagnosed with cervical cancer,
which was at stage two because it had already spread
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to nearby places. And when I came back from that,
it took significant test and some effort, but it was
affirmed that every vest of the disease was gone. I
was completely healed. And while people love that, they love
that story, to me, the bigger healing was my soul.
And shortly after that, I opened my Bible when I
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was back home, and I opened it to Psalm twenty three,
and it said He restored my soul. I remember this
so clearly. I was laying on the floor reading it,
and I cried for about a half hour, and I realized,
that's the real healing. While I'm very grateful to be
disease free, very grateful for a story that affirms the
goodness of God, the power of love, the restorative power
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of such an experience. To have my soul healed was
something that only God could do. The most remarkable healing
was my soul. That the sadness, the grief, the regret,
the pain, the agony of losing my husband to suicide
was gone. And what the angels told me was that
it had been encapsulated, that it was there, and it
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had caused a lot of pain, but it couldn't hurt
me anymore. And I found that.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
To be true.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
I was in the hospital for four days, and as
soon as I got home from the hospital, I had
these mole traps all over my backyard. I'm still pretty
weak fresh out of the hospital, and I went around
the backyard and I kicked all the mole traps out
because I thought these could hurt somebody. The idea of
hurting a little mole caused me great pain, and I
subsequently started selling off all of my personal possessions. As
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a writer, I had vast amounts of archival documents and materials.
I donated all of it to a college library. I
started selling off my family's heirlooms, furniture they've been in
the family for generations, because I thought, you know, somebody
else will enjoy this a lot. And then I sold
my car, and that's when my friends really thought I'd
lost my mind. That was my dream car. I had
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special ordered. It took two months to get, but I
drove it back to the dealership, had a friend take
me and I said, how much will you give me
for this car? And they said, Missus Thornton, you spent
two months waiting for that car, And I said, I know,
I don't need it anymore. My furniture, my possessions in
my car sold, my home listed, it sold within two hours,
and then I left. I was living in the Virginia
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Beach area, and I left. I packed my clothes and
some possessions in a slightly used Prius which I had bought,
and I drove a thousand miles due west to start
a new life. And that was also exactly what I needed.
The old memories of where I had lived with my
husband were dragging me to the depths of hell, and
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starting over was liberating. I cannot begin to describe what
it felt like to be free of all those earthwaights
and to have a new chance at a new life.
And so many people have said, oh, I wish I
could do that. And yet that's what's interesting is that's
when my friends really thought I'd lost my mind, is
when I started selling off everything I owned and said
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I was going one thousand miles west. It's changed me
in every way a human being can be changed, and
it's all for the good. And now everything looks so different.
But I do cry more easily. When I hear about
somebody who's lost somebody to suicide. I typically just burst
out in tears because I feel their pain. And yet
I don't go home crying and keep crying for days
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like I used to. I don't crawl into bed and
stay there. So everything has gotten so much better, I
guess the biggest struggles. I still think maybe I died
and I've just gone to a new place because I'm
not sure exactly what's happening. I feel completely different. An
interesting consequence of this, after I was out of the hospital,
I realized that the arthritis that had plagued me in
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my wrist disappeared. I had a busted knee from an
old injury that healed up. I had a busted shoulder
from an old injury. Pretty much I got, as my
friend in It says, you got rebooted by the creator.
It's been an amazing experience. Every now and then somebody says,
how do you know you really died? There's so many ways,
but I guess the biggest would be when I died,
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I had been diagnosed with this life threatening illness. When
I came back, it had evaporated. I mean, there's no
meta explanation for any of that. And then my blood
work showed that I had a full recovery from hemorrhaging
to death within ten days. Within ten days, all of
my numbers on the blood work were back to normal,
which the doctors told me would take about three months,
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and it happened in ten days. But again, the angels
reassured me everything would be reset, and it was.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
She's got a great laugh and a good outlook on life.
If you haven't yet read Anita Morjani's Dying to Be Me,
that's another near death experience with healing. Let's take a
quick break and we'll be back. You're listening to Shades
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we're talking about fear and anxiety and the difference
having a near death experience makes. Now. I don't know
about you, but I do not want to have a
near death experience. But I want to learn all the
valuable things that people get out of them and apply
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them to my life. Doctor ken Ring did a lot
of research with near death experiences, even studied the near
death experiences of the blind, which we talked about long
time ago here on Shades of the After Life. But
here are some commonalities I want to share of the
near death experience. One. In the cases in which people
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came closest to death or were clinically dead, they told
of being outside of their bodies or moving through a
void or dark tunnel toward a luminous light, of meeting
departed relatives and friends, of having a feeling of great
comfort and bliss, and of being surrounded by compassionate love,
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of feeling so beautiful they longed to remain when they
returned to their earthly lives, and they were affected by
this feeling for the rest of their lives.
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Two.
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No one type of person was especially likely to have
this experience. It cut across race, gender, age, education, marital status, etc. Three.
Religious orientation was not a factor affecting the likelihood or
the depth of a near death experience. An atheist was
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as likely to have one as a devoutly religious person. Four,
regardless of their prior attitudes, whether skeptical or deeply religious,
and regardless of the many variations in religious blas beliefs
and a degree of skepticism, most of these people were
convinced that they had been in the presence of some
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supreme and loving power and had a glimpse of the
life yet to come. Five. Drugs, anesthesia and medication did
not seem to be a factor in inducing these impressions
and exquisite feelings of an ND. In fact, drugs and
anesthesia seemed to be more likely to cause a person
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to forget memories of an ND. Number six. Doctor Ring
definitely concluded that NDEs are not hallucinations because hallucinations are rambling, unconnected,
often unintelligible, and very widely whereas near death experiences tend
to have similar elements of a clear, connected pattern. Seven.
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Based on the information of those who had reported such incidents,
the moment of death was often one of unparalleled beauty,
peace and comfort, and a feeling of total love and acceptance.
This was possible even for those involved in horrible accidents
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in which they suffered very serious injuries. Doctor Ring found
that there was tremendous comfort potential in this information for
people who were facing death. Eight After going through a
near death experience, people reported a loss of fear of death,
as well as a greater appreciation of life. They also
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reported stronger feelings of self acceptance and a greater concern
and sense for caring for other people. They had less
interest in material things for their own sake, many tended
to be more spiritual, though not necessarily more involved in
organized religion. And nine, almost all subjects who experienced a
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near death experience found their lives transformed and experienced a
change in their attitudes and values, as well as their
inclination to love and help others. Doctor Ring was convinced
that these were absolutely authentic experiences and noted that since returning,
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many of them had occasion to think about what might
have been, and their subsequent lives were powerful testimony to
our common ability to live more deeply, to live with
more gratitude, to live more lovingly and more spiritually. That
goes hand in hand with the story we just heard.
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The next near death experience you're going to hear is
just a quick one, just a few minutes. It's the
story of Mary Joe rappini who describes herself as a
stubborn atheist. She went through a near death experience after
suffering a brain aneurysm. She is the wife and mother
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of two, and realized that all of the stories she
had heard from other people in hospital situations were not
necessarily caused by hallucinations. She's now a psychotherapist in private
practice and a therapist at the Methodist Hospital in the
Texas Medical Center. Rappinie found it therapeutic to write it
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all down. The result is her recently released a book
titled is God Pink Dying to Heal.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Usbin was by my bed and I saw that light
and then I remember kind of looking at him, so
I was like, okay, so I see this light, but
I'm not dreaming. All of a sudden, I closed my
eyes and I was thinking, is that the tunnel that
the cancers used to tell me about?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Because it is not impressive.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
It was so small, and then all of a sudden
it came larger and I folded into it and I
was in it. It's a incredibly warm, loving feeling and
you're not afraid. It was just like I was moving
through the tunnel. I don't remember my whole body being
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part of it. Nor do I remember really caring. I
felt totally me, but I don't remember paying special attention.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Like is my body going with me? Do I have
eyes on my ears?
Speaker 8 (34:35):
I just remember going through it, and then I came
out into this room.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
The room was magnificent.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
I shouldn't even say it was a room because I
didn't see any walls, and nor did I see any limitations.
But I had the sense it was a room. And
it was a very brilliant color. There's not an earth
color to say what it is. I call it pink,
because you know, if you think a brilliant, you think harsh.
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This room was not harsh. It was soft, and mostly
it was so accepting and loving. And I remember then
that something holds me. I don't remember how I got there,
but something is holding me because I can feel it
physically around me. And it says, Mary Joe, you cannot stay,
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and I say why. First I was upset. I said what,
and it said you cannot stay? And then I said why.
And this voice that I don't see his face. I
can't tell you what it looks like because I have
no idea. It says to me, you can't stay because
you have more to do.
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And I said more to do, and he goes, yes, you.
Speaker 8 (35:46):
Haven't given enough, and I said I haven't given enough.
And I started talking about every human acolyte I could think.
I started saying, you know, I work at that cancer center.
I only get paid six hundred dollars a month. I'm
on twenty four to seven call. There's nobody that can't
call me in the middle of the night. And I
actually answer the phone and talk to him everything possible
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that I could brag about on a tombstone.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I talked to this.
Speaker 8 (36:13):
God about and then God says, well, let me ask
you one question. Have you ever loved any person the
way you've been loved in this short time here? And
I said, no, no, it's impossible. I'm just a human.
And it kind of chuckled. It wasn't human, but it
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was able to relate to me in a very human
way that made me feel loved. And it wasn't laughing
at me, but it was a chuckle. It had a
playful edge or and it said you can do better.
And then I remember waking up and Ron was crying,
and he's got this form of what they give you
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when you're going to have to have surgery.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And he's like, Mary, you know we got to go
over this form.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
I need to know that, you know what I'm saying.
And then Ron goes, Mary, listen, you know you could die.
You're really sick and they're going to have to do
surgery on you. And I said, you know what, I'm
not going to die because I just talked to God
and he won't let me.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
God won't let her die. And I think for your
time and my time, we don't get to go yet either.
I love that we have more to do. We haven't
given enough, and have we loved another person the way
we can imagine being loved in the hereafter. There's several
of these near death experiences that it seems like God
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or the divine has a sense of humor. I love
the words, you can do better. I'm definitely not the
judge or jury on your life, only on my own.
And here's the thing we have a question to ask
ourselves while we're here. If our men is to serve
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and is to love, and is to make a difference
with others? And when I say others, when we look
in the mirror, we are one of those people. How
are we doing on that mission? It doesn't matter what
day it is, what time it is, It's never too
late to start applying love all over. And yes, that
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means even to people we don't like and that we
don't agree with. Human nature wants us to gossip and
get involved with maybe bad mouthing, and that's just part
of our human dna, I think. But we can rise
above it. Mother Teresa gave some great framework that I
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think might help. She said, let no one ever come
to you without leaving better and happier. Be the living
expression of God's kindness. Kindness in your face, kindness in
your eyes, kindness in your smile. And as our first
story told us, the importance of gratitude. So we're talking
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about anxiety, we're talking about fear. My dad told me
ninety percent of the things we fear never happen, and
of the ten percent that happen, most of them aren't
nearly as bad as we imagined them to be. When
we come back from the break, we'll hear one more
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near death experience. But I want you to really contemplate
that around you right now is a powerful group of souls,
your loved ones, inspirers, all cheering you on so that
you get your money's worth out of living your life
here on earth. We are so much more powerful than
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we know. And what would it be like, even in
the face of fear, to walk right through it and
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and our last story of the day comes from Ellen Weir.
Her journey began at the age of twelve, when a
horseback riding accident left her in a coma, teetering on
the brink of life and death.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
I was a normal child growing up, a normal girl.
Loved horses and loved to ride. And when I was
twelve years old, I went to my first Western lesson.
I'd written English for so long, so I went to
my first Western lesson, and it turns out they didn't
tighten the sense enough. When I was riding and the
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since slipped and I was riding for a while underneath
the horse fell off the horse and then it reared
up and kicked me in the temple. I was taken
to a local hospital in Hillsboro, Texas, and was found
that I was in a coma. So then I was
taken to Waco Hospital in the Dallas Fort WORTHA area
and given a team of doctors, one of which who
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had worked on JFK. Oddly enough, but I was in
the coma for five days, and my parents were told
to try and inspire my brain to kind of have
some stimulation by playing movies. And they were playing my
childhood favorite movies, Disney movies at my bedside and Home
movies and things. It was from that point that I
went into my near death experience and was taken to
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the other side. Basically, I found myself on a raft,
and the raft was wooden and was floating on what
I would call pink clouds. And in front of me
was who I knew to be, Jesus because that's the
faith that I grew up in. And on my left
there was a man who was young and thin and
bald with long brown robes. I didn't know who he was,
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but he felt familiar and comfortable and safe to me,
almost as if he were protecting me, and felt completely
loved just before moving into this place of light. So
I went from the raft into this place of being
surrounded by white light, bright light, but also colors, and
imagined like wonderful, beautiful colors all around music playing. That
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was short lived, because at some point I felt this
light around my body, which wasn't my real body but
was my light body. It felt warm and weighted and
beautiful and kind of like a comforting hug, right, and
then I just melted into and became the love. Everything
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else went away and I was just completely one with
this light and this love. It was the most beautifully
profound experience of my life. But I can't even say
it was an experience I had in my life, because
it was an otherworldly experience. And then I don't know
how long I was there. I don't know how long
I was connected, but I was taken back to the wrath,
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and it was on that raft that I was connected
with so much information about not only my path, but
our path as humans and why we're here. And then
I could see the trajectory of my parents and my family.
So many things came into my knowing. But I remember
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knowing that every person here has a purpose, everyone has
a plan. We are divinely guided and led, and our
goal is to surrender to that and trust that and
have faith, and also to connect with our higher self
so that we are living in the greatest good. And
I remember again recognizing that all the things that we
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spend our mind thinking about, like we spend our time
thinking about on earth, all these worries and concerns and
stresses and fears, they actually get in the way of
living our purpose in our life. I remember thinking, when
I came out of my comment and I was living again,
I would have these thoughts and they would come into
my head, you know, maybe fear or unworthiness, and I
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would instantly know how to let it go and that
it didn't matter and it was false. And I lived
in that knowing for so long. And I think that
in this time especially, people will have these fears and
they will hold them back because as we connect fear
with thoughts, we actually create more of that in our lives,
because what we think is our reality. So that was
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a really big piece for me. Also, this living and
gratitude was a huge part of this experience. I came
out knowing that every night as I went to sleep,
I needed to give thanks for this opportunity to be here.
Where there is gratitude, there's no room for fear, there's
no room for hate or discord. It is all love.
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When we really feel that and we feel the expansion
of our heart and we give complete gratitude forgetting to
be here, that is when we are truly connecting to
the higher self and to source. So that was another
big piece and I recognize and have since had many messages.
I've been working with what I call angelic or light
beings ever since I came out of my coma. I
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will see the places and around people and informations and
their comfort and the guidance that they give is true
and real, that we really are protected and guided. And
after receiving all this information, which I was given the
choice that I could either stay there or I could live,
and I remember on some level wanting to stay because
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I loved the connection and the love and everything else disappeared.
All my human worries about everything didn't matter right, and
I recognized on that raft that they didn't matter anyway,
that so much that we think about and spend our
time giving energy to is not what it's about. It
was then that I was taken into a transformative immersive
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music experience. As I chose to stay and to come back,
I remember telling them I want to use music for healing,
and I explained I want to be a healer. And
it was at that moment that I felt an overwhelming
surge of gratitude that I got to come back and
I got to live, and I knew that it was
a gift, and I knew that I had something to give,
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and I knew I had purpose, And that's when I
was taken back into the darkness. But the darkness that
I went into was a warm darkness, a comforting darkness,
and I saw a music staff in the distance, just
the staff, and every note was a different color on
the staff, and I could see the notes moving, but
I couldn't hear anything. So I just watched it, and
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it got closer and closer and closer, bigger and bigger,
until I kind of moved through the staff and it
was gone. But then in its place it was a
very very faint sound, almost inaudible, almost untouchable, like a
little pinprick of light. I point to the lower right,
That's where I kind of visualize it, tiny pinprick, and
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I focused so hard on that music. I just pulled
it in as much as I could. It came into
my mind until it was booming in my head, and
I opened my eyes and there I was in the ICU.
A nurse came running over, and then I slipped back
out of consciousness. But the next thing I remember was
I was being moved to a regular bed. They were
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calling it a miracle. They said that no other person
in the state of Texas had ever survived that type
of head injury at that state that I was in,
other than one other child. She was fourteen, but she
was disabled for life, and then I knew that all
the information I received on that raft, which was that
we all have purpose. It's the most vivid memory I
have in my life, and now I live. Everything that
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I do has to go back to that experience. Does
it relate, does it connect to that experience on the
other side, and how can I help others connect to
that as well.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
It's interesting what I've learned about near death experience is
it's not just the experience itself that transforms a life,
but it's the after effects. People go on to live
a whole different kind of life, and it almost seems
like things that happen in the near death experience continue
to open up. I spoke to Ellen Weir, who had
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this last experience just recently, and she was telling me
how her life has unfolded. She's put together a book
called Waking Up in Heaven, Living with Purpose through After
Life Wisdom. Ellen, like any others, have turned their lives
into making a difference, and Allen is passionate about helping
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people tap into our own inner wisdom, creating our own reality.
And she's big into music. I'm excited to read her
book and just see how music plays a part in
connecting us to our divine selves and to the other side.
This episode has been about fear anxiety, learning from near
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death experiences so that we know there's a bigger picture
and that we are always supported. If there's something you're
really struggling with, try to get out of your mind
and into action. When we can put all of our
concentration on what it is we're doing. Next thing, you know,
that thing you fear is a thing of the past,
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and it is done. One of the craziest things I
did to overcome some fear. Believe it or not, I
didn't like dining in a restaurant alone. God forbid me
taking a trip by myself. I was given a challenge.
I chose to take it, and I booked myself a
flight to Hawaii. The girl that didn't want to go
out to eat by myself was suddenly going on a
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four day vacation by myself. I brought my guidebook, I
rented a car, checked into the hotel, and something miraculous happened.
I started meeting people who became friends for life, all
by me taking a chance. What did I realize that
all of us human beings were just the same for
people with our own hopes and fears and dreams, that
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if we can get out of our own heads, set
that ego aside, and look into someone's eyes, we realize
their divine souls too, and that we're never alone. I
want to do a shout out to some super fans.
Ramona from Germany has emailed and messaged me often. She's
one of the show's biggest fans. She says, a shout
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out to Beth and Colorado, and last a shout out
to Richard in Elkhart, Indiana. Richard recently wrote me, having
heard about Shades of the Afterlife on Coast to Coast
AM when George Nori mentioned it. Richard has listened to
all episodes of Shades of the Afterlife in forty five days. He,
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you may agree, is a superfan. So Richard, thank you
so much for listening. And if you two are a superfan,
even if it's not listening in forty five days and
you've heard all or most of Shades of the Afterlife,
I'd love to hear about it. You can email me
Sandra Champlain at gmail dot com. Well, my friend, our
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time together is nearing to an end. Don't forget to
come visit me at We Dontdie dot com. To experience
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We have the new medium class Soul to Soul Communication.
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In closing, I'm Sandra Champlain. Don't be afraid. You are
divinely guided, protected, and you have a guide right over
your shoulder and so much love from the unseen world.
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