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To be amazed by the Wizard of Weird Strange Things
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do at home, and a lot more. On this edition
of the show. Are plasmas, living beings, maybe even aliens.
Have you ever sat around a mesmerizing campfire and wondered, this,

(01:45):
is it possible that fire is a living thing? I mean,
it needs oxygen to survive, It needs to consume something
to survive. It multiplies, it grows, it's born, and then
it dies. Though it doesn't have a brain. There are

(02:10):
simple living organisms that do not have brains. Well, fire
is what we call a plasma. This is a state
of matter. I'm not talking about plasma and blood or
something like that. It is actually, believe it or not,

(02:31):
it's the most common state of matter in the universe.
It's more uncommon here to us on Earth, and yet
still very common. For example, a typical flame, a normal
flame from a candle is a plasma. So is a
lightning bolt. And let me try to give you a

(02:53):
better idea of what a plasma is before we dig
into this whole connection to possible plasma life and alien connections.
So let's say we have an ice cube. Now, this
is water and it is in the form of matter

(03:13):
that we consider solid. Now, if you add a little
energy to that solid mass, let's say you heat it up, well,
then it starts to vibrate more and the molecules start
to break apart and it loosens up and you end
up with a liquid. Okay, so it's a loosened up

(03:35):
version of the solid. Now, if you add even more
energy to it, you continue heating it up. Well, then
those molecules they'll spread even even further apart, even farther apart,
and next thing you know, it is a gas. You

(03:55):
have steam, all right, So you see here. Now it's
the same substance. It's water, but at one vibration it
is solid, and then a little more energy turns it
into a liquid. A little more energy turns it into
a gas. But here's something special. Once it becomes a gas,
if you add even more energy to it, well, then

(04:17):
something extraordinary happens because at that point, so much energy
has been added that instead of the molecules just spreading
farther apart, there's so much energy that the atoms begin
to be affected within the molecules of water, and one

(04:39):
or more electrons are ripped from each of the atoms.
And I don't want to get too scientific on you here,
but basically what you end up with is this free
floating mass of electrons and atoms that now have a
positive charge because they're missing electrons, and those are called ions,

(05:00):
and so basically it's a big, unstable, glowing, magnetically sensitive
electrical ball of energy. That's basically what we're talking about here,
And in fact, for those of you who are a
bit more technically minded, I may as well just touch
on the official definition here. Plasma comes from the ancient

(05:24):
Greek word which means moldable substance. One of four fundamental
states of matter, characterized by the presence of a significant
portion of charged particles and any combination of ions or electrons.
As I mentioned, it is the most abundant form of
ordinary matter in the universe, mostly in stars, including the Sun.

(05:49):
Plasma can be artificially generated, for example, by heating a
neutral gas or subjecting it to a strong electromagnetic field.
Basically what I just said to you, except I tried
to tell you in simpler terms. All Right, So if
you see some kind of glowing amorphous mass, the kind
of thing that we often associate with paranormal phenomena, whether

(06:12):
it be UFOs or ghosts or similar things. Uh, we're
talking about something that appears a lot like we would
we would consider a plasma. Well, recently, Mobias sent me
this really interesting article from a website called a Nomalien
dot com, you know, like the words anomalous, an alien,

(06:34):
A n O M A l I E A Nomalien
dot com. And the article was written by Jake Carter.
Says it's titled new research suggests plasma entities might be
extra terrestrial life. Okay, let's let's see what else they

(06:55):
have to say about this. In a study that could
redefine our understanding of extraterrestrial life, researchers have explored the
possibility that plasmas in the Earth's upper atmosphere might represent
a form of life or pre life conditions, says The

(07:15):
research was originally published on research Gate, and it delves
into the behavior of plasma like entities observed in the thermosphere,
suggesting these could be more than just physical phenomena, but
potentially biological or pre biological entities. As a matter of fact,
the study was called Extraterrestrial life Plasma's UAP shape shifters, replicans, thunderstorms,

(07:41):
unidentified ocean phenomena. They have all kinds of sources, including
stuff from NASA's Space Shuttle missions. There are a number
of images here showing what appeared to be these sort
of self illuminating pulsating entities, often referred to as plaids plasmoids,

(08:05):
which exhibit behavior similar to living organisms. They change shape, velocity,
they seem to even interact with each other. There may
be some kind of communication going on there between them,
and so basically what they're saying is that one of

(08:28):
these scenarios is that these plasmas could post pre life
conditions with the potential for self replication. I think of
it like this. It's almost like you know how that
your body consists of a physical body and an energy body,

(08:51):
And you might think that, well, which the physical comes first?
But how does that make sense? It makes more sense
to me that the energy body would come first, and
the energy body would somehow attract the lower denser matter
to it. This is what we see in symatics. For example,

(09:12):
when you just have a bunch of evenly randomly distributed
particles of sand, they're not producing any particular form, but
then you add an energy form to that sand in
terms of a sound wave, and of course we know

(09:32):
that sound waves take on these very particular fixed forms
three dimensionally, and when there's just that right relationship between
the sound wave, well, then all of a sudden, the
bits of matter cluster around it and create the physical form,

(09:53):
which is a physical representation of the invisible things. So
is it possible when they say that these could be
pre hosting pre life conditions, that life begins as some
kind of an energy form like this, and it's out,
it is alive already. It's almost like perhaps a giant

(10:17):
energy amba, but then over time that can evolve into
a more physical thing, or maybe it always just stays
in that state and we are looking at another form
of life that's always been there. They're talking about the
possibility that these could be part of a quote fourth

(10:39):
domain of life, distinct from the known categories of bacteria, Archaea,
and Eukaria, And of course I talked a little bit
about that on a podcast where I was talking about
how that all life supposedly originated from this one particular organism.

(11:02):
I don't know which one that was. But you can
go back and if you go to Strange thingsshow dot
com you can see the titles of each one of
the shows. Most people listen to this show by the
way through through iHeart, and I'll tell you I give
you a tip. If you go to iHeart, all the
shows come up and you'll see at the top right

(11:22):
hand there is there are two arrows, one pointing up
and one pointing down, and if you click that arrow,
it'll either have the most recent show at the top,
or it will have the very first show at the top.
And that way, if you're going to find a show,
you can figure out is it closer to the to
the first show I ever did or the last show,

(11:43):
and then you can find it using that And it
varies from platform to platform. But that's how it works
on that one. When we come back, I'm going to
dig more into this concept and is it true. Does
it have a connection to things like the Brown Mountain lights?
How does it connect to ghost how does it connect
to you? Hey, what's what's my conclusion? I will tell you,

(12:06):
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dot com. This is a I love this topic, this
idea that there is somehow life within plasma. And by
the way, the episode of the show that I was
thinking of UH episode one ninety four called did All
Life Come from this One creature? Where I dig into

(15:57):
the different UH forms of life that scientists categorize everything into. Currently,
but yeah, I've always been really interested with all of
these things related to plasmas. And you know, plasmas have
been fascinating people for a long time. Have you ever
heard of Saint Elmo's fire? Back in the days of

(16:20):
seafaring and exploration, oftentimes all of these sailors would be
way out at sea and a storm would come rolling
in and they would look up and they would see
this bluish or greenish glow, this eerie glow all around
the top masts of the ship, and it freaked them

(16:40):
out because they said, this is an omen of doom
or some kind of a warm warning. And it actually
was a warning because that was the product of electrical
charges building up around the top of the mass there,
and so it would cause this glow. Or have you
heard of will of the win is what some call

(17:01):
ignis fatus Ignis fatus is Latin. It means fools fire.
And it's this idea that, especially back in the old
days when we didn't have artificial lights all over the place,
sometimes a traveler might see a light in the forest
or the swamp and foolishly follow it to his or

(17:25):
her demise, end up getting stuck in quicksand or stepping
in a hole or falling off a cliff or whatever.
And this is a light that a lot of people
say has been caused naturally because of swamp gas you
know which you know, Methaney King, or in other cases

(17:49):
it may be an electrostatic phenomenon. In fact, some people
have claimed that if you see a light in the
woods over and over at night, there is a treasure
buried there, which is bad news if it is fool's fire,
because it's tempting you to go out there. But there
is some possible truth to that because back in the
day is when a treasure was a box of metal coins. Well,

(18:13):
those metal coins can conduct a powerful charge, and there
might be some type of electrical charge that builds up
around that spot because of the coins there, when the
atmospheric conditions are just right. By the way, do you
know why that has been called will of the wisp?
This is a good trivia question for you. You probably

(18:34):
know what a will of the wisp is, but why
is it called that? Well, the term comes from well,
the word wisp, which is a bundle of sticks or
paper sometimes used as a torch. And the name will
just like willpower, thus meaning will of the torch, and

(18:58):
of course you firb me tell this story about the
jack O lantern, you know, stingy Jack. And some people
say that that's a will of the wisp phenomenon, spook lights,
ghost lights, various types of orbs and whatnot. But there
is this whole history and tradition of people following these

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things around, and we know that there is this incredible
amount of plasma activity in the upper atmosphere. These are
often called elves e l v ees, which means emission
of light and very low frequency perturbations due to electromagnetic

(19:41):
pulse sources. Yeah, you can tell a scientist came up
with that. But you get all of these bizarre, truly
beautiful psychedelic things that look almost like glowing jellyfish in
the sky and sometimes well they prefer to call them tlees,

(20:04):
which means transient luminous event. They happen most often during thunderstorms.
Sometimes they're called sprites or ghosts or jets. They are
all of these interesting names that scientists have given to them.
Red sprites, blue jets. Go if you've never done this

(20:26):
before and you want to see what I'm talking about,
just go online and look up just to go to
the Wikipedia page for upper atmospheric lightning and just look
at some of these pictures. These crazy things have been
seen since the dawn of time really to some extent,
but now you know, we see them much more frequently
since we're up there traveling through space. But you know,

(20:49):
all of this, of course ties into the Brown Mountain
lights that I have discussed so many times. I'm talking about,
of course, the phenomenon in western North Carolina that's been
going on for hundreds of years. And you have this
low lying mountain out in the Pisga National Forest, and
for all of these decades, people have been seeing these

(21:12):
multicolored balls of light and similar shapes of light moving
on and around this ridge at night. Sometimes they almost
seem to ooze around the mountain. If you've never seen
this before, go to Brown Mountain Lights dot com. That's
one of my websites. It needs to be updated, but
there's good information there, Brown Mountain Lights dot com. And

(21:33):
you know, for well as far back as I know
of recorded reports, there were people always speculating that when
you would see the Brown Mountain lights moving around Brown
Mountain at night in the distance, that those lights were
living beings. That you could perhaps even communicate with them.

(21:55):
You could flash something like a flashlight at them, and
sometimes they would blink back you and you could almost
form a type of communication with them. There was a
guy named Ralph Lel who claimed that he could do this,
and I can't tell you how many people believe that
those are living plasmas. And then, of course when people

(22:17):
see ghosts, they talk about ghosts having these sort of
luminous erratic forms, kind of fluctuating, drifting around. And you
know that typical idea of that glowing ghost with that

(22:37):
striking shade of color to it. It's what you think
of as a plasma. And you know what's funny. In
my laboratory on many many years ago, I started doing this.
I would take electrostatic charges and I would create these
plasmas that look like these big ghostly forms of light.
And then I would go out to places where people
said they were seeing ghosts, haunted houses, and guess what

(23:01):
I would find these powerful electrostatic charges at the supposedly
most haunted spot. Is there a connection there? Is it
that the bodies of spiritual beings manifest sometimes as plasma forms,
So are plasma forms? Sometimes the bodies of both conscious

(23:26):
and unconscious spiritual beings, for example, both imprints and entities.
And you know, because when it comes to ghosts, sometimes
you have a ghost that's not like a mindless recording
that's trapped. And then sometimes you have a ghost and
we call that an imprint. And then sometimes you have
a ghost that seems to be aware and unpredictable and interactive,
and that's what we call an entity. But they both

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often appear with this glow around them. So it may
be that this plasma is just the medium by which
these types of otherwise invisible forms are able to temporarily appear.
So are plasmas. Sometimes aliens are, and are some aliens

(24:12):
appearing as as plasmas? You know, I have there's an
Instagram page. We have a new Instagram page for my show,
It's just Joshua P. Warren Podcast, And I posted a
meme there recently, which I think says a lot. Not

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believing in existence of aliens is like taking a spoonful
of water from an ocean and saying there is no
shark in the ocean because there is none in my spoon.
There's some logic to that. Me thinks there is there's

(24:58):
some logic to that, and it has a lot to
do with humbling yourself and realizing just how big the
universe actually is.

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So what is my conclusion at this point about this possibility. Well,
when we come back, I'm going to give you that,

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and then we're going to shift into what's kind of
some breaking news. I believe this is the first time
anybody is going to hear about this. My friend, who
is an engineer, Silicon Valley engineer named Ronald Heath, has
just created a new experiment that may help us understand
more about what some call the Mandela effect. Yeah, how

(25:59):
do you do an experiment to prove or disprove the
Mandela effects? It's a good one. I'm Joshua Pee Warren.
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and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.
I have always thought that there was something about many

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of these UFOs, these uap that looked like living creatures,
like big micro organisms flying around in the sky. In fact,
I did an award winning short film about this, a
documentary called oh UFOs a New Discovery. If you want
to watch it for free, go to Joshua Pwarren dot

(28:08):
com and you'll see a section at the top called
Gallery of the Strange. Well, there's a lot of weird
stuff there. As you can imagine. All's just free stuff
anybody can access. And there's one heading that says, oh
UFO's Organic UFO's Report. If you haven't seen this or
you don't know about it. Go check it out. But

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all right, so how am I concluding? How am I
reconciling all of this stuff here that I've been going over. Well,
i'll tell you here's my conclusion right now. Is plasma
a living thing? Well that's an easy one for me,

(28:52):
because yes, in my opinion, I've come to believe that
all things contain a living spirit, even a rock. Maybe
that sounds crazy to you, but that's what I've come
to conclude. Basically, if it vibrates, if it's above absolute zero,
I think everything contains a living spirit to some degree. Now,

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the extent of consciousness or self awareness is debatable, but
all things are somehow living part of one gigantic living creation.
And you know, don't forget most of the world is
invisible to you. You don't believe me. You need proof? Well,

(29:38):
that's easy. Have you ever seen a magnet? I mean,
how does that work? You take a magnet, you hold
it toward another magnet, and they either fly through the
air and stick together or they push apart. It's I mean,
that's that's magical Jedi power stuff. Jason Saraci sent me

(29:59):
a video interesting that's just fascinating about something called magnetic locking,
and you can spin a magnet to create levitation. So
let me try to explain this for you, and this
is legit. You can take a drill or a spinning
tool like a drimal tool and glue a little magnet

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to the tip and then turn it on to spin
that magnet at a high speed. And then if you
hold that toward an identical magnet, say the one that
you just have sitting on a table, well then it'll
start spinning and eventually the two will lock into place,
but they will not connect. So basically, that second magnet

(30:44):
is going to be levitating in front of the first magnet,
and at that point you can just move that drimble
all around and that second magnet will follow it, just
levitating off the tip about an inch away. It's wild.
It reminds me of how you might think of flying

(31:05):
saucers sometimes spinning in the sky. I think there may
be a connection on YouTube if you want to see this,
go to YouTube. There's a great channel called the Action Lab.
It's a very reputable physics channel, the Action Lab, and
there's a video look up this title Magnetic locking without
a superconductor, Magnetic locking without a superconductor. Check that out.

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But you know, ghosts are usually considered to be from
the past, and then sometimes we have stories about ghosts
from the future. But time always seems to be this
essential element, right, And you've heard me talk about the
Mandela effect. As a matter of fact, one of my

(31:48):
early shows was about the Mandela effect. Show episode number
eight of Strange Things was called the Mandela Effect and
a New Time Warp Report. If you haven't heard episode eight,
go check it out. This is a good example of
why I told you that if you go to the
iHeart app there should be some arrows there, little arrows,
and you can click them to either start with show

(32:10):
number one or to start with the latest show. And
you'd want to go back and start with show number
one and then scroll to show show number eight to
find this anyway, the Mandela effect is this idea that somehow,
occasionally the timelines change that some people say they will
swear to you that the Fruit of the Loom logo

(32:30):
used to have a cornicopia on it, and Fruit of
the Loom says, nope, never was, it never happened. Some
people will swear the monopoly guy had a monocle and
he doesn't anymore, and people say, Nope, he never had
a monocle. It's that kind of thing. And this has
been controversial for a long time. And my friend Ronald Heath,

(32:56):
who lives in California, he worked in Silicon Valley. He's
a brilliant engineer. He is the guy who invented the
DT meter, what some call the time warp meter, that
I use to find what is considered the Vegas time warp.
And he has a laboratory and you wouldn't believe the
stuff this guy comes up with. Well, he wrote me

(33:18):
an email recently and he said, check this out. I
have this experiment called a time propagation experiment. He's trying
to demonstrate that something like the Mandela effect might exist.
And I'm going to apologize to ron right now in
advance if I don't explain this properly. But basically, he

(33:42):
is trying to see if we can document the idea
that sometimes an event that happened in the past is
altered and suddenly it alters what we experience here on
the present. Here's part of what he wrote to me
in an email. For a long time, there have been
reports of people who could spiritually step out of normal
time and see all of time spread out at once.

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Mainstream science recognizes the block theory as being possible. This
says that all of time exists at once, like a
book where we are continually turning the pages to travel
forward through time. Some people say that everything is fixed
and does not change, that our decisions will be made
the same way because the future is fixed. Time could

(34:29):
not be fixed if we have free will, and he says,
I'll ignore a multiverse. The question is do people in
the past have free will also, and how would it
change propagate through time from the past to the present.
He says, take for example the Mandela effect. All right,
so he says, suppose we create a problem for the universe.

(34:51):
A computer will take a picture of a block of
wood with thirty years worth of visible tree rings. Now,
if the weather were to be different, or on person
in the past decides to light a campfire one year
or whatever, will one or more of the tree rings
will be different. If the computer stores a new picture
every ten seconds, there will be a difference between the

(35:13):
present picture and the picture taken in the past. The
problem is the update rate. If the universe updates all
of time to conform to the new change instantly and perfectly. Well,
the present picture will always be the same as the
past picture. If the changes propagate through time at a

(35:34):
rate that is slower than instantaneous, there should be differences
in the pictures. It seems unlikely that the universe would
change the computer memory of the picture that was just
taken so that it would match the picture that was
taken in the past. Well, now, I understand if you're
scratching your brain here a little bit, all right, But

(35:56):
basically what he's saying is, all right, I got this block,
who would It's got thirty years worth of rings on it,
and I'm going to set this thing up so that
every ten seconds this is photographed, and I want to
see if these tree rings significantly shift at some point,

(36:21):
because something may have changed in the past when it
comes to the conditions of the tree. All right, And
so he's sure enough. He did this. He set this
whole thing up, he made a video about it, and
he did actually a very good job. The video explains
it better than I just did. And he put this

(36:43):
whole system together, and he's sure enough. He found that
there were these differences between the first picture of the
tree rings and some of the subsequent pictures. Now, of course,
there are a lot of questions here. I mean, for example,
one is you know, could this could? Is there another

(37:07):
explanation than jumping to the timelines changing? You know, is
there something that has happened in the environment where the
wood is stormed that either the focus or the lighting,
or the weather or the humidity is changing the wood
in some way. That's certainly a more likely explanation, one

(37:27):
might argue than to say, well, you're jumping to the
proof of the timeline is changing. And if you want
to see this video for yourself, go to YouTube. There's
a channel called Ronald Heath and he has this video.
And Heath is called h. E. A. T H. He
has this video called time Propagation Experiment with Evidence for

(37:52):
dynamic block theory. Yeah, he's a scientist. Time propagation experiment
with evidence for dynamic block theory. Also is the simplest
thing is go to his website. It is r H
Webco r Hwebco rhwebco dot com and there you'll find
a link to not only the video, but also all

(38:13):
of his data files and just he does his best
to explain what he's thinking but then he also goes
into depth, giving all the technical stats. He's looking for
somebody else who wants to reproduce something like this. Now,
is he on the right track? What do you think
about this? Is it possible that guys like him might
actually document something like this Mandela effect in a scientific

(38:38):
objective way. When we come back from this break, I'm
going to tell you, well, I sent this out to
some colleagues, and I'm gonna tell you what one of
my colleagues said about this. He brings up a very
interesting point. And then I think I'm gonna maybe try
to get into at least one or two funny stories,

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Warren, Welcome back to the final segment of this edition

(40:22):
of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren,
And Yeah, it's a great question, isn't it. Is it
possible to do an experiment to document something similar to

(40:43):
the Mandela effect. I took the experimental evidence that Ronald
Heath has so far. I sent it to some colleagues.
One of my colleagues wrote back, interesting experiment. It reminds
me of the Schrodinger's cat thought experiment, but with an observer.

(41:06):
The observer will have an effect on the outcome. As
for proving the Mandela effect, if the phenomena still follows
its protocol, the baseline photo will also change. And this
person is a big believer in the Mandela effect, by

(41:26):
the way, But that kind of goes back to this
question that I think Ronald Heath brought up. So if
the Mandela effect changes, if the whole timeline changes instantly,
then that means that the original photo should also change

(41:48):
to match the new photo, meaning that it should there
should be no way of proving there was a change.
And if that's the case, does that mean that there
is actually no way to ever prove the Mandela effect,
because that to do so would mean that somehow you

(42:09):
could overcome the ultimate timeline change. And no. I guess
what that means is that the Mandel effect is something
that can only be experienced in one's memory. There's no
way of objectively studying it. If if it changes all

(42:31):
elements of the universe, including the tools and conditions used
to document it, there there's nothing to compare it to.
I know this is kind of deep, but as Ron
was also saying, well, what if it doesn't happen instantaneously,
if the changes propagate at a slower rate, maybe almost

(42:52):
like ice crystals that form and have to branch out,
then maybe there is a period of time when you
can document a difference. But it just depends on how
it works. So look, I don't know what to think
of this, but I'm presenting it to you. I hope
you go to Ron's website urhwebc dot com. If you're

(43:14):
interested in this kind of stuff. Maybe you'll have some
great ideas and you and Ron can talk about this
and you'll come up with some experiment for yourself. But
you know, this is the kind of stuff that you're
probably not going to hear about any other place than
here on strange things. We pride ourselves on trying to
bring these complex and often obscure experiments to your ears.

(43:35):
But it does raise some great questions, doesn't it about
free will in general, and how we live our lives,
and you know, how to view things like time and
aging and the impact that you may or may not
have on your own future. I guess if we have

(43:56):
free will, that's why it's good to be motivated somehow
to stay healthy and feel good as long as you can.
I mean, you know, we always talk about how bad
it is to be vain, but sometimes I think maybe
vanity is not always that bad. I mean, you look
at these actors like Harrison Ford, who's probably like the
best shape of any eighty some year old guy in
the world, and I, you know, and I think, you know,

(44:18):
maybe if I were more vain, like an actor, then
I would be more motivated to go out and take
better care of myself and exercise and eat right and
all that. I recently have been having some shoulder pain
and on my right shoulder with like the rhomboid. I
don't know what's causing it, and I have been able

(44:40):
to find a cream or anything that helps. So, but
somebody said you need to try acupuncture. I go, I've
never done that. But I got online and I was
going to look up acupuncture stuff and I found that
what they call it an acu pin on Amazon was
only like ten bucks. It's just like a pin. And
they say, yeah, you get this and it's gonna you

(45:01):
stick it on this meridian and it's gonna help it.
And I go, okay, great, So I ordered it that
it came the next day. I take it out of
the box and read the instructions. How is this going
to help my shoulder? And it says rub this on
your foot and I said, come on, this is real pain,
not some bs. I don't think rubbing this on my
foot is gonna help my shoulder. But I did it. No,

(45:23):
it didn't help my shoulder. So I'm going to use
my Apex wishing machine. And here's how I'm going to
set it up. I'm not going to say, make my
pain go away, oh, great machine. No, I'm gonna say,
show me how to make my pain go away? What
do I need to do? This is a good example
of how to experiment with wishing machines. You don't expect

(45:45):
the machine to magically make something happen directly from God.
You ask it to help provide an opportunity for you
to solve your problem. God helps those who help themselves.
I mean, we would all go to a wishing machine
and just write on a piece of paper, make me
an immortal, healthy, happy God. But that's not realistic. So,

(46:05):
I mean, you can use wishing machines to help you
find the solution to specific problems, but you know, some
things are inevitable. I recently was reading the Edgar Allen
post story The Mask of the Red Death. It's a
short story published in eighteen forty two, and basically, there
is this plague known as the Red Death that sweeping

(46:29):
the land, and there's this Prince Prospero and he's scared.
Obviously he doesn't want this Red Death, and he's hiding
in his abbey, which is, you know, sort of like
a monastery there, and he's got other wealthy people. They're
all held there and they're trying to enjoy themselves. So
why like to have a masquerade ball? And in the

(46:53):
midst of all this, some mysterious figure appears and nobody's
sure who the figure is, and the figures he's wearing
a cloak and everything, and so anyway, eventually they confront
this figure and they find that when they pull this
costume away that there's nothing inside. It's just empty. And

(47:16):
then all of a sudden they all get the red
death and die, and people scholars are like, what does
this mean? What is the meaning of this? Well, I
think it means that you can try to fight death
all you want, but there ultimately there's nothing to fight.
It's a ghost, and you can't fight a ghost, so

(47:38):
to speak. So to a certain extent, no matter what
you do, you have to accept certain realities. There's nothing
you can do about it. That's how death works, especially
something like a plague, especially in the days when they
knew nothing about how to fight these these micro organisms
and stuff. So that's you know, that may seem like

(48:03):
a depressing thing, but it's not depressing because that means
it should inspire you to have a good, loving relationship
with everyone while you're here, be nice, enjoy your life.
The other day, so I was looking up I got
some ad like, do you know how many people choke
to death? You need this choking device? And I said, yeah,
I do. I guess. So I got online. Now I
was looking up choking devices and they all had good reviews.

(48:25):
And then I realized, well, everybody who choked to death
would have left a bad review. That's a bad joke.
But anyway, look, sometimes it's good to do things that
you really enjoy that remind you you're not dead yet.

(48:46):
Sometimes it's good to remind yourself you're not dead yet.
We are spirits trapped in this material world. And a
listener asked me one time, what do I mean when
I say the Golden Rule? A lot of young people
listen to the show, and I take for granted they
may or may not know, and the Golden rule is
the single best guideline by which to live your life.

(49:07):
Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Well,
let me fit into mental manner. Funny little story. I
used to do this segment called It's time to make
My Wife Mad. And the problem is I had to
stop doing it because it actually worked and it did
make my wife mad. It's a good thing I'm not

(49:27):
a stand up comedian because I would be like, you
cannot watch any of my shows, for example, take my
wife no, please take my wife anyway. So you know,
occasionally I bet on stuff here in Las Vegas, and
I bet on sports, and I bet on a sports
game recently, and halfway through my team was losing, and

(49:49):
I said to Lauren, oh, I bet this much on
this team. And it's halfway through and they're losing, and
she goes. She looks at me, and she goes, oh,
can you change your bet? Now? If you're into gambling,
you appreciate the humor in that. I said. That would

(50:13):
that'd be the most popular casino in the world, wouldn't
it if you could change your bet. You just that's
like putting your money into the slot machine and then
you put your hundred bucks in and you lose it
all and then you go to the casino. Hey, can
I have that back? Please? Pretty please? I wish it

(50:36):
worked that way if I ever opened up a casino,
that will give you that ability that it will be
super popular. All Right, my friends, the clock has goddess.
Take a deep breath if you can close your eyes,
but either way, relax and meditate on the good fortune tongue.

(51:15):
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(51:35):
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(51:55):
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