Episode 209: Weirdo Monsters! Fresno Nightcrawler, Veggieman, etc!

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This is Strange with JOSHUAE Warren. I am Joshua P. Warren.
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you can do at home, and a lot more on
this edition of the show. Weirdo, Monsters, Fresno Nightcrawler, Veggie Man,
et cetera. You know it's going to be a good
show when I have et cetera in the title. Years ago,

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I had the privilege of visiting Point Pleasant, West Virginia,
which of course is most famous for being the the
number one hotspot for the Mothman activity that took place
in the nineteen sixties. Of course, Mothman is one of
the most mistake serious paranormal entities. Nobody is sure whether

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or not to call him a cryptid or an alien
or an interdimensional being. We just don't know. I'm not
going to dig into Mothman in particular, though, because I've
talked about him a lot on this show. I think
I talked about him in episode fourteen. I'm certain I
did in episode one sixty four. But one thing that

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I have not gotten to do is go to the
annual Mothman Festival that they hold there. I was just
passing through and got to spend a little time investigating there.
And again, this was a long time ago, but they
have this big festival every September, and it just looks
like the most fun place in the world to me,

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and I just, you know, it seems like that every year.
I just get so busy in the fall. I just
haven't made a point of going to this festival. I
have to do it. But if you don't know anything
about it, look it up. And of course I'm recording
this show in October, and so they just recently had one,
and I've been watching video footage that attendees of the

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Mothman Festival were shooting as they were walking around, and
I kept noticing a lot of these souvenirs that were
being sold and promoted that had some cryptids and monsters
that I actually am not that familiar with. You know,
I may have heard the name, but I don't really

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know the story. And so I started taking notes, like,
I wonder what exactly that thing is, And so I
decided that I would I would educate myself on not
only like the Fresno Nightcrawler and Veggieman, but the Grafton Monster.
The Pascagoula Alien was promoted there. We'll see how many

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of these things we can tap into. Obviously the Flatwoods
Monster I know more about that one, but anyhow, so
I decided to sit down and learn more about these monsters.
And I figured that you also would find this interesting
if I share with you what I've learned. So there's
a lot to talk about. Let's get right into it.

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Let's start with this thing called the Fresno night Crawler. Now, Fresno, California,
is a city that is from what I can tell
it looks like it's more or less right in the
middle of California. And let me try to describe for
you what a Fresno nightcrawler looks like. Imagine one night,

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you hear some I don't know, your dogs are barking
or whatever. You look outside and in your yard you
see what appears to be nothing but a pair of
white pants, maybe I don't know, four feet tall, just
white pants, walking across your yard. And then maybe another

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one follows it. Now, what the heck is that? That's
more or less what these nightcrawlers look like. And it
all started with an incident very much like that. The
first time, apparently this we know about one of these
sightings was this is one of those fairly recent things.
It was two thousand and seven. A man in Fresno

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who only identified himself as Jose, said, a little after
midnight on November fifth, my sister's birthday, by the way,
the man was awakened by his barking dog and decided
to check his surveillance camera footage to see why. And
there on the screen he saw two unusual creatures strutting

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across the front lawn. That's right, folks, this is on video.
You can get on the internet and you can watch
video of this. So he saw these things, and apparently
at some point he took this to a television station.
Let's see here. I believe it says Univision. And then

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later on somebody who was speaking at a UFO conference
about a year later got a hold of this footage
and played it and everybody started wondering what the heck
could this possibly be. And then other appearances of these
things called nightcrawlers, and I don't know who gave it

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that name. I would imagine it was probably some reporter
or anchor who is trying to be sensational. That's how
Mothman got his name. That's often what happens. Then the
Fresno alien started popping up in other places. He was
spotted a few years later. The Fresno nightcrawler was spotted

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in Yosemite National Park in twenty eleven. And then there
was a footage of like a couple of these things
in Poland in twenty seventeen, and then Montana and twenty twenty.
And sometimes you just see one night crawler walking by itself,
but often you'll see two or three, and some maybe

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taller than others. You know, they're different sizes. Now, obviously
there are people who look at this and say, this
has got to be a hoax. Well let me just
tell you all right now, listening to this show, if
I mention that this could be a hoax, well that
could get very redundant on this particular show, because just

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about every single one of these creatures that I'm going
to tell you about has been accused of being part
of a hoax. So you just I'm not even going
to spend time on that, okay, So I'm just telling
what they supposedly are. Whether you believe it or not,
that's up to you. But there is very good, clear
footage of these Fresno nightcrawlers out there, and I honestly

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I have no idea what they are. I mean, if
you try to pigeonhole me into some kind of like
I guess, if you back me into a corner, is
what I'm saying, then maybe I would just have to
say just one of these interdimensional weirdies or some kind
of alien. I don't know, I mean, if it's real.
But here's something that I find very intriguing. You know,

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I live here in Las Vegas and Las Vegas is
part of what is known as the Nevada Triangle, which
is actually more paranormal in many ways than even the
Bermuda Triangle where I used to live. And the Nevada
Triangle goes from Las Vegas north up to Reno, Nevada,

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and then it goes west over to yes, Fresno, California.
So there's apparently a lot of bizarre stuff that happens
in Fresno, California. I have never been there, so it's
definitely on my list of places to go. I'm going
to make a up to Fresno at some point. And
I understand that in Fresno the night Crawler is kind

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of considered a bit of a cultural hero. You know.
They they celebrate the night Crawler there. They're they're happy
to have him as a bizarro mascot of some kind
for the town. So that's what that is, all right.
Next on to the Veggie Man. Okay, now, the Veggie Man.

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This is one of the West Virginia weardies, and it
would it would make sense that a lot of these
creatures have West Virginia connections. And Okay, apparently this began
with a there was a writer who was collecting stories
of unusual things, and he talked about this man named

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Jennings Frederick, who was already a guy who was sort
of studying I think weird phenomena himself. But anyhow, here's
supposedly what happened. On a mid July day in nineteen
sixty eight. Jennings Frederick was walking through the woods during

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an unsuccessful hunt for woodchuck when he heard a jabbering
voice that he said sounded like a sped up recording,
and apparently this is what it said, quote, you need
not fear me. I wish to communicate. I come as friends.
We know of you all. I come in peace. I

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wish medical assistance. I need your help. I'm not going
to try to do that. You need not fear me,
I wish to communicate. Okay. So surprised, Frederick felt his
arm ketch on a patch of brambles, so when he
looked down, he realized that what he thought were brabbles
were actually a three fingered hand that was green like

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a plant. He said the fingers were seven inches long,
with needle like tips and suction cups which had attached
themselves to his arm. He heard a suction sound and
he knew blood was being drawn. He said the creature
reminded him of the stalk of some huge, ungainly plant,
but the creature was surprisingly strong. Its eyes turned from

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yellow to red as they began to spin, hypnotizing him.
He said that it eventually leaped away, reminding him of
spring Hill Jack. Okay, when we come back, I'm going
to tell you a little bit more about this veggie man,
and then we're gonna get into yeah, the Grafton Monster,
the flat Woods Monster, the maybe the ho Dag, the

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I gietato zoom. And here's something funny that I realized.
When you look at Veggie Man showing up, the first
thing he says is you need not fear me. Have
you ever noticed how often when people have these encounters

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with these weird beings, it starts with the being saying
do not be afraid. It reminds me, you know, speaking
of Mothman in the movie The Mothman prophecies. There's this
character I think his name is Gordon, and he starts

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hearing voices of this like creepy, shadowy figure named Indrid Cold.
And he says, then the voice that I heard two
nights ago, he said, do not be afraid. My name
is Indrid Cold. And when I was in Puerto Rico
interviewing people, a lot of times people would say they

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would wake up in the middle of the night and
they would see a ball of light in their bedroom,
and just like Veggie Man, they would hear some kind
of a high pitched sound coming from and one person
would hear that sound, and then another person would hear
instead a voice, and the voice would say, do not
be afraid. Why is this the most common opening line?

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You know? In fact, if you go back and you
look at the Bible, there are many occasions in the
Bible on which an angel will appear, and that's the
first thing the angel says. Let's see. It appears in
multiple cases. In Luke chapter one, verse twenty six, the

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angel Gabriel says to Mary, do not be afraid, Mary,
for you have found favor with the God. And then
let's see. Luke two ten angel says, do not be afraid.
I bring you good news that will cause great joy
for all the people. And then in Matthew chapter one,

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verse twenty, an angel says to Joseph, do not be
afraid to take Mary as your wife. I don't know,
you know. All I know is I'm thinking I don't
want to meet an angel if he has to be like,
do not be afraid of me. I think I'll pass
on meeting the angel. But who knows. It seems like

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in the Bible that is maybe a sign. Angels often
say do not fear as a sign there from God,
but obviously there are other creatures that say that as well.
It's just one of those oddball things. I could probably
talk about that for an hour, but let's move on.
Let's get back to Veggieman here, because this guy says
that when Veggie Man grabbed a hold of him, Veggie

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Man's eyes turned yellow to red, began to spin, and
he believed that there was some kind of a transfusion
taking place. Veggie Man was sucking something out of him,
and then when Veggie Man was satisfied, he leapt, like
I say, off into the distance like spring Hill Jack.
And if you look at a sketch of what he
supposedly appeared like. He looks so ridiculous. Imagine a carrot

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as as as a tall figure with you know how
carrots have that carrot top with the green leafy stuff. Well,
that's his hair sticking up. So imagine a big, tall
carrot with that. That's his hair. He's got black eyes,
he has a long nose, point to ears, incredible long
spinlely fingers excuse me, arms each with three fingers, and

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he's kind of like big long duck like looking feet.
He looks insane. You have to get online and just
look at some of the pictures of these things. I
don't know that there have been too many sightings of
Veggie Man since then, but that anyway, that's what Veggie
Man is. Okay, So now let's go on to the
Grafton Monster. The Grafton Monster is well, this is another

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one of those West Virginia weirdies. And again it's not
surprising because the Mothman Festival is in West Virginia, and
apparently in nineteen sixty four there was a reporter there
in West Virginia named Robert Cockrell. June sixteenth, nineteen sixty four,
he was driving home from work on Riverside Drive, which

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goes past Grafton High School, and then he saw a
quote large white obstruction end quote in a small clearing
beside the road. He described it as being a creature
as having white, seal like skin and no visible head. Now, yes,

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I'm talking about skin like a seal, you know, an animal,
a seal, large seal like skin, and no visible head.
He recalled it being very large, between seven and nine
feet tall. Let's see. The creature did not move as

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he drove past, but he was terrified. Cockroll was terrified.
After the encounter, he and his friends went right back
to where he saw the creature. It was gone, but
it did leave a large impression in the grass where
it had been standing. They also said that they had
heard an odd, low whistling sound coming from the direction

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of the river, but they were not sure if that
was from the creature or not. If you look at
a picture of what this may have been, I mean,
it just kind of looks like a big, kind of
pale white blob. Almost reminds me of a boulder with
a couple of big, clunky arms. I don't know if

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you've ever played one of these video games like Zelda,
where they have these boulders that wake up and kind
of grow arms and come to life. It reminds me
of that. Well, that's the Grafton Monster, now, you know. Now,
of course, I have known for years about the flat
Woods Monster. This is also, of course from West Virginia,

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and this is a particularly it kind of visually outstanding monster.
And I don't know if this is an alien or
what you could say that about any of these. On
the evening of September twelfth of nineteen fifty two, they're
in flat Woods, West Virginia. So there was an elementary
school called flat Woods Elementary School, and so near the

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elementary school there were these little boys, there's like I
think four of them, all residents, just playing on the
lawn of the elementary school. Suddenly a bright light just
streaked across the sky overhead and seemed like it crashed
into a hillside beside a farm nearby, and so the

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boys were running to see what it was. And on
the way they stopped by the home of one of
the boy's mothers. A boy's mother, her name was Kathleen May.
And so Kathleen May and these kids and the family

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dog Ritchie. They all go up to see what's on
this hill. And once they get up there, they start seeing.
As they get closer to the spot where the crash occurred,
a pulsing red light. And then they shined a flashlight
up the hill and they saw a terrifying sight. Let's see,

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described as by one writer Gray Barker at Fate Magazine,
a creature approximately ten feet that is three meters tall,
and by creature, it looks like an alien. This does
not look like an animal. It's a creature though, with
a round blood red face, a large pointed hoodlike shape

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around the face, eyes that emitted greenish orange light, a
dark black or green body, small claw like hands, clothing
like folds, and a head that all together resembled the
Ace of spades. All right, so can you imagine this?

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This is a creature that it actually, you know, here's
what it reminds me of. I'm a chess player. It
reminds me of the bishop piece in a game of chess.
That's exactly what it reminds me of. But this is
some kind of I don't like it, a robot, alien monster
looking thing. And so but here's the thing. They see this,

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and then it says it made a hissing sound and
then started gliding toward them. And at that point, what
do you think they did? What would you do? They screamed,
dropped the flashlight, and they ran away, absolutely terrified. They
said they smelled a pungent mist. Some later said they

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were nauseated. They went to the local sheriff and he
and a deputy had been investigating some other reports of
crashed aircraft in the area and they didn't find anything there,
but this story it got picked up by newspapers that
went all over the place, and one thing that really
impressed everybody was that Kathleen May, the mother of one

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of the boys who had been there. She was a
beautician there in town. She was an active member of
this civic group called the Rebeccas, and everybody just seemed
to love her. She was just very well known, and
she passed away several years ago. But the people who

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own like there's a museum, I guess, like a Flatwood's
Monster museum. They say that people who used to know
her to this day, they'll come in and they'll talk
about what a nice lady she was, and how trustworthy
and down to earth she was, and that was one
of the things that seemed to give that story some credibility.
So look up the flat Woods Monster. We're about to
come up on a break here. When we come back, well,

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I'm going to try to squeeze in at least a
few more the Pasca Goula alien, the hodagg the pumpkin Man,
the hoop snake. Yeah, and then a little later in
the show, I want to talk some about this extraordinary

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weather that we've been having. And I get contacted all
the time with people who have suspicions about something nefarious
happening behind the scenes, some kind of conspiracy at hand. Well, fine,
let's talk about that. Let's get into that a little

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bit that's coming up later in the show. I'm Joshua
Pee Warren, and you're listening to Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal podcast network, and
I will be back after these important messages. Welcome back

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to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast to
Coast AM, a normal podcast network. I'm your host, Joshua
Pee Warren, and this is the show where the unusual
becomes usual. Now I know I told you this show

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is going to be about weirdo monsters. But I'm using
that term monster quite generally because I mean, aren't all
of these creepy things kind of monsters in a way?
What is a monster? And of course I am. I
was inspired to do this show because a lot of
these things, these creatures that are sort of featured and

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promoted at monster festivals like the Mothman Festival. And I
say that because this next creature is actually called the
Pascagoula Alien. And yet it's just I don't know, is
this an alien? Probably we don't know. But here's the story.
The Passcagoula Alien is from what's called the Pascagoula Abduction.

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And this happened. INT's see Mississippi of course, an alleged
UFO sighting an abduction in nineteen seventy three in which
Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker claimed they were abducted and
examined before being released by aliens while they were fishing

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near Pascagoula on the evening of October eleventh of nineteen
seventy three, forty two year old Charles Hickson and nineteen
year old Calvin Parker told the Jackson County, Mississippi Sheriff's Office.
They were fishing off a pier on the west bank
of the Pascagoula River when they heard a whirring or

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whizzing sound. They saw two flashing blue lights and observed
an oval shaped object thirty to forty feet that's nine
to twelve meters across and eight to ten feet high,
which is two to three meters. They claimed they were
conscious but paralyzed while three creatures with quote robotic slit

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mouths end quote let me repeat that robotic slit mouths
and quote crab like pinchers, let me repeat that crab
like painters in quote took them aboard the object and
subjected them to an examination. Uh. Then of course they
got that got out and uh, I don't know, I

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don't know the details of the examination. But when you
look at what the Pasca, the Pasca Goula aliens supposedly
looked like, it is depicted as a tall, upright, kind
of homogeneous looking being with a slightly domed head, and

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it has some kind of a big slit across the
front of its face, and then it has these long
arms that have the almost crab like pinchers, and I
guess because of the slit and all that, it kind
of reminds me a bit of Platau from the movie
The Earth The Day the Earth Stood Still? So I

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don't know, what do you think. It's a weird looking thing.
And apparently they it looks like they always show it
having a couple of little like pointy ears sticking out
of the side of its head or something like that
as well. The Pasca goula monster, all right. Next we
have the hoedag, and I see an American folklore of

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the hoe dag is a fearsome critter resembling a large
carniv carnivore with bullhorns with a row of thick, curved
spines down its back. The ho dag was said to
be borne from the ashes of cremated oxen as the

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incarnation of the accumulation of abuse these animals had suffered
at the hands of their masters. I say the history
of this ho dag is strongly tied to Wisconsin. It
features prominently in Paul Bunyan stories. They say this is
the actual origin. In eighteen ninety three, newspapers reported the
discovery of a hoag in Wisconsin. The articles claimed the

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hodag had the head of a frog, the grinning face
of a giant elephant, thick short legs set off by
huge claws, the back of a dinosaur, and a long
tail with spears at the end. The reports were instigated
by a well known Wisconsin land surveyor who was also

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a well known prankster named Eugene Shephard, and who rounded
up a group of local people to capture the animal,
and they said that they needed to use dynamite to
kill the beast. A photograph of the remains of the
charred beast was released to the media and it said, quote,

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it was the fiercest, strangest, most frightening monster ever to
set razors sharp claws on the earth. It became extinct
after its main food source, all white bulldogs, became scarce
in the area. End quote. And you know what's funny
about the hodag? And I'm not going to try to

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describe it any more than it was described originally. The
ho dag has been featured all over North Carolina and
all over this country, so it's even though it may
have originated there in Wisconsin. I mean, I heard about
the ho dag growing up next this is something that

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is much more obscure. This is possibly the most obscure
of all the cryptids that I'm talking about. And again
I'm not necessary talking about cryptids. I should say monsters
if I just want to be particularly accurate. The Pumpkin Man. Now,
when I started investigating Brown Mountain in North Carolina where

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people see the Brown Mountain lights, when I was a teenager,
that's way back then, I started hearing occasionally that there
was this creature that would be seen around Brown Mountain
called the Pumpkin Man. And this is not to be
confused with the character from the pumpkin Head movie. But look,

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basically here is how he was described, and I would
just people would tell me about it. Sometimes i'd find
an Internet post. I was actually going back to see
if there was anything new, and I realized that I
had talked about this on Coast to Coast AM apparently
on July seventeenth of two thousand and nine, that people

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who had told me they recently saw him right there
running around Brown Mountain described him as between four and
six feet tall, with a skinny body, branch like arms
and legs, a big head with a shriveled face, and

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piercing glowing red eyes. The monster is said to just
appear and disappear in some mysterious way, and is also
said to have been seen at times floating in the
air in a little bubble. So pumpkin Man, he kind

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of imagine. Here's what I imagine from what people are
telling me. Imagine something like a gray like a gray alien,
except extremely thin and withered and wrinkled, almost like it's
just super de high rated, but also much more wispy
and even scarier looking. That's basically what I'm what I've

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gathered and look. I camped up there. I can't tell
you how many times I camped up on Brown Mountain,
and I never saw the Pumpkin Man. I never saw
any evidence of a punkin man. Now. I saw plenty
of weird things up there, as you know. I saw
the lights, videotape the lights numerous times. I had ghost

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encounters up there, plenty of bizarro things. I think I
went through it time, slip up there, kind of like
a I walked through, perhaps a portal to another another
essence of the dimension. I've talked about all this before,
But I never saw a Pumpkin Man. But I haven't
heard a pumpkin Man story in a while, so I

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wanted to bring that up to see if anybody out
there has a new pumpkin Man story. And let me
leave you with this, The hoop snake. Hop the hoop snake. Now,
according to folklore, the distinguishing feature of a hoop snake
is that it can grasp its tail in its jaws,

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like the oroboros of Greek mythology, and then it can
roll after its prey like a wheel. So you get that.
Imagine a snake puts its tail in its mouth and
then it flips up like a tire and can roll,
especially downhills, roll very very quickly, much faster than it

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could even slither to attack its prey. In one version
of the myth, the snake straightens out at the last second,
skewing its victim with its venomous tail. The only escape
is to hide behind a tree, which receives the deadly
blow instead and promptly dies from the poison. This is

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actually he described all over the place, not just here
in the United States, but also Canada, Australia. I didn't
even know this, it said it was in the pecos
Bill stories. And here is one thing that stands out
for me about this. When I was growing up, there
was this old man who lived right down the road

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from us, and he swore that when he was in
his twenties, he was out in the woods one day
and he saw one of these hoop snakes. He said
he saw the snake literally take its tail in its mouth,
flip up, and roll down a hill. And I don't

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know if it came after him or not. I don't
recall him saying that, but he would put his hand
on a stack of Bibles and say he'd seen this. Now,
scientists say that this is a legendary creature, this is
a myth. There's no evidence, so I don't know. I mean,
may it sounds like a bunch of bs, obviously, But

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that's a challenge for some of you who want to
go out there and make a great discovery. If you're
the first person to go out and actually document a
snake doing this, it's going to be a big deal
when we come back. Let's talk about this concept that
there might be some kind of weather manipulation going on.
A lot of people are very suspicious right now, and

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there's a lot of bad stuff happening. I'm Joshua wa
Pe Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast AM paramorbal podcast Network, and I
will be right back. Welcome back to the final segment

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of this edition of Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and
Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host,
Joshua P. Warren, And let me point out right up
front that this show is often recorded up to two
weeks in advance, so I can't really talk about things

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in real time as they are happening, like you might
get from a live stream or a live radio So
who knows how much has changed in the world by
the time you hear this. Things are moving at a
pretty fast pace, and a lot changes in two weeks.
But here's the situation right now. I was born in Asheville,

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North Carolina. I lived in western North Carolina most of
my life basically up until in my forties, up into
the age of forty. You know, I started in my
late thirties traveling to back and forth to Puerto Rico.
But anyway, that's that's my homeland. And over a week ago,

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as you probably know, the Hurricane Helene came through and
just caused devastating historic flooding in western North Carolina and
all throughout the southeastern United States, and it just really
took everybody off guard. I mean, there are portions of
western North Carolina that were so destroyed that it's going

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to be years for them to rebuild. And then there
were other parts that are basically pristine, like downtown Asheville,
where we do the Haunted Asheville Ghost Tours, perfectly fine,
nothing wrong there. It's just certain areas that were you know,
they got hit bad, and it threw everybody off guard.

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Very few people were prepared for something like this. And
even as I record this show, I mean my mom
and dad and sister still and this is a week
after the storm. Over a week after the storm, they
still don't have electricity or water or internet, barely have
any cell service. Very very sketchy. And so that's why

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I've always stressed the importance of having as much prep
as possible. I did episode seventy five of this show.
It's called Watt's in my bug out Bag, and I
actually tell you what I Josh Whoopee Warren have in
my bug out bag. And to give you some ideas
if you go back and listen to episode seventy five.

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And of course, as you can imagine, some of the
people who fared very well through this have a sunshine
simple solar generator so they don't have to depend on gas.
But let me get back to the point here. I'm
not going to tell you all about what happened because
you can. I'm sure you've seen that on the news,
and by the time you hear this show, who knows
what other bad weather events have happened in this country.

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But my point is, shortly after people could start communicating again,
I started having I was getting bombarded with all these
messages from people who were very suspicious, who had a
lot of conspiracies they wanted to tell me about regarding
weather manipulation, believing that this was not an act of nature,
that this was contrived, that this was this is something

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that was done to somehow weather was weaponized. I mean,
they say, look here we are, we're right up here
on an election. That's fishy. And then people are claiming
that once a lot of these communities were wiped out,
it just so happens that these are places where there
are these rich deposits of lithium and other precious resources,

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and that the government wants to give out these contracts
these lithium companies so they can take that to make
batteries for electric cars and push forward that electric agenda. Oh,
I've heard all this stuff, and let me just tell
you right off the bat, I believe one hundred percent
that there does exist weather manipulation technology. I have talked

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for years and years and years, probably twenty years about
the HAARP project, for example, HAARP, And if you don't
know what that is, go look it up. HAARP. So
I am no stranger to the fact that weather can
be manipulated. But here are some things to keep in mind.

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Even if there were, or let me put it in,
even if there is some supervillain politician with a machine
that controls the weather, I still think that Mother Nature
is so much more powerful that toying with it this
close to an election could easily backfire. And then it's

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just not as reliable as you might think. And you
also have to understand that the area of Asheville, right
there near Asheville that was hit the hardest, was built
more village and all growing up we always heard about
the Great flood of nineteen sixteen, this historic, unbelievable flood
that occurred where you'd see pictures where like everything was gone,

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just swallowed up by water. There's a giant church there.
The water was all the way up to the steeple.
I mean, I always knew that this happened in nineteen sixteen,
and I wondered why people didn't realize that this is
probably going to happen again someday. Now, granted, this flood
was even bigger than the one in nineteen sixteen, but

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you also have to realize that nature goes through these
very weird, unpredictable, sort of sporadic situations, well cycles, that's
the word I'm looking for. Like, for example, everybody talks you,
we hear a lot of people saying like, oh, well,
there's global warming. You know, the Earth is warming up.

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And yet oddly enough, the hottest day on record was
in Death Valley National Park in nineteen thirteen. That's weird.
So it's hard to predict what Mother Nature is going
to do. And I'm not prepared to jump straight to

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the conclusion that this is an intentional act of some
kind of weaponizing of weather. I'm not saying it's not
I'm just saying that if you use Akham's razor, which
is that the likeliest explanation is the simplest one, then
we know that that is an area that has gotten

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historically flooded, and it's gotten historically flooded again. But it
affects us even more now because we're even more populated,
and we also have more infrastructure that directs water and
focuses water and channels water. So I'm just I know
some of you are going to be ticked that I'm
not saying, yes, it's true, the government has shot their

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heartbeam and fired up this hurricane and directed it with
their joystick right there. I know some of you are
going to be disappointed that I'm not saying that, but
I'm just telling you the truth. I don't think we
can jump to that conclusion. I think that there is
a good possibility that this is something that could be

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could be natural. But and you know, I was thinking
about how that in the Bible and Genesis, it says
that God regretted creating man. I'm looking at here. Genesis
chapter six, verse six says the Lord regretted making human

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beings on the earth. His heart was aggrieved, and so
the Lord said, I will wipe out from the earth
the human beings I have created, and not only the
human beings, but also the animals and the crawling things
and the birds of the aar, for I regret that
I made them, and then he created the great flood.

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Maybe it's maybe it's something closer to that. Maybe God
or Mother Nature is doing this because of how we
have allowed our society to behave. And you might think,
but why me, I'm one of the good ones. Well,
it reminds me of that scene in the Clint Eastwood

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movie Unforgiven, when the kid kills a man and feels
bad about it, and then he says to Clint Eastwood, well,
I guess they had it coming. And Clint Eastwood, he
squints as he stares into the distance, he says, we
all got it coming. So I hope you have a

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nice day. But you know, just try to do the
best you can do. You can't control the whole world,
but you can make an impact on those around you.
So I hope you stay focused on that and try
to be a good example and have some sympathy for others.
And I thank you all so much, every single one

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of you. I thank you so much who have donated
money and resources and time and have continued to do
everything that you can to help others, because that's all
you can do. You know, it doesn't matter where you live.
I'm just speaking for my own country. It doesn't matter

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where you live. There's always the potential for something, whether
it's an earthquake or a forest fire, or a tornado
or a blizzard, all right, or a drought. I mean,
there's just always potential for something. And you know, we

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are we're kind of like fleas living on the earth here,
and we can't always believe that everything that happens is
a conspiracy. We also have to just be aware that
you need to do your best to prepare because tomorrow
everything can just turn upside down. So let's pray for

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everybody out there who is still struggling and still suffering,
and we'll just keep working to make it better. And
now let us all focus. Take a deep breath, close
your eyes if you can. Here's the good Fortune tone.

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