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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:34):
your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird.
This is Strange Women, Joshua Warren. I am JOSHUAA. Be Warren,
and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new my blowing content, news exercises and weird experiments

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you can do at home, and a lot more. On
this edition of the show. Here's a Pet Barnum story.
I am certainly fortunate because people listen to this show
all over the world. Therefore, let me give you a refresher,

(01:40):
if need be, on the history of this country. The
United States of America what we call the USA, back
in the seventeen hundreds was a collection of British colonies.
And then the people over time did not like some

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of the things the British were doing. And so in
seventeen seventy six, the founders of this country they gathered
in Philadelphia and they they signed the Declaration of Independence,
which declared basically, you know, ultimately declared war on Britain,
which was almost unthinkable, the most powerful war machine in

(02:27):
the world at the time. And miraculously, due to the
efforts of many many people, including of course especially George
Washington and people like Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, etc. Well,
we won that war and thus was formed the USA.

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But the British, they certainly were not happy about it.
So they limped back across the pond, as they say,
to England and plotted their revenge. And so they finally
came back. They figured that they would let us wear
ourselves out for a while, and they came back in
eighteen twelve and tried to take the country again, and

(03:14):
we called that the War of eighteen twelve. And boy,
they almost succeeded that time. The British actually made it
into the White House. They ate all the food, they
burned it. I mean, yeah, talked about the darkest hour.
The president got on a horse and rode out of town,
left his wife behind. You know, but this is one

(03:40):
of those stories. I could probably just do a whole
show about that. Because one of the reasons that the
British failed was because of what almost seems like divine intervention.
They had a bunch of ships that were sitting outside
DC and this horrific hurricane came through and sank all

(04:02):
their ships and took all their supplies and killed a
bunch of of them. They really couldn't couldn't continue after that.
Well anyway, so eighteen twelve, it was a very dramatic
year for this country. And in that year, let's see
here October twenty second of eighteen twelve, there was a

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baby born in Massachusetts named John Boyden Adams. And you know,
you have to understand that back in those days, a
lot of people were illiterate. You didn't have like baby
naming books, and so often kids were named after characters

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in the Bible or a president. And of course John
Adams was one of the founders of the country. So
I think a lot of people who have the last
name Adams ended up naming their baby boy John. So
John Boyden Adams was born October of eighteen twelve in Massachusetts,

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John Boyden Adams, and this is he was born in
a suburb of Boston. He had very little education, and
from what I understand, his father was a guy who
made shoes, a shoemaker. I guess I suppose that's what

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we'd call it, cobbler. I don't know for sure. So
he learned that trade, but as he grew up as
a teenager, he was never quite satisfied with it because
John always felt that it was kind of claustrophobic, phobic
being pent up in a little workshop all day long.
He liked the outdoors, so as he got older, he

(05:51):
started going out more, and he learned how to track animals.
He learned how to trap them. He became quite accomplished hunter.
He actually even started training animals. But as the country
got closer to eighteen forty nine, when all this gold

(06:13):
was being found out west, he started thinking, boy, maybe
this is an opportunity for me to strike it rich.
And so as as a man, John decided to well.
He came up with this scheme. He said, I'm going
to take my life savings, which was over six thousand dollars.

(06:34):
In today's money that would be close to two hundred thousand.
And he said, I'm going to buy all the supplies
and make a bunch of shoes to sell to all
these people who were heading out to California there to
get rich off of the gold rush. So sure enough,
he spent his whole life savings. And then he also

(06:55):
went to his father and got his father to invest
pretty much all that is fun. And they got all
this footwear ready to go, ready to hit it big
in this warehouse, and the warehouse caught on fire and
they lost it all, and his father killed himself. I mean,

(07:23):
talk about the most awful weight on your shoulders. You've
convinced your dad, you know, your parent to invest all
this money and then it all goes up in flames
and he commits suicide. This is I mean, this is
a dark story. I'll tell you later why I am
telling you this story, By the way, it is a

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true one. So so John, after that, he says, I
just I have to go. I have to go far away.
I can't be in this place. It's too painful. So
he decides to go out west, where all the forty
are and he thinks, well, maybe I'll just go out
there and I'll live alone in the woods and I'll

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find gold. So it takes him months, but he makes
it out there, from Massachusetts to California, and he tries
some mining and trading in various valuables, and but it
just wasn't working out for him. So but he wasn't

(08:27):
a likable guy. As a matter of fact, some of
the local Native Americans helped him build a little cabin
out there in the middle of the mountains. So he said,
I'm going to go back to what I'm good at.
I'm going to start trapping and hunting. And because of
his background with shoemaking and leather craft, he knew how
that he could actually kill an animal and turn it

(08:50):
into some kind of buckskin clothing and moccasins, which was
very needed at that time. So he became a better
and better hunter. And at some point he stumbles upon
a cave and inside this cave there are some little

(09:13):
grizzly bear cubs and he decides to take one of them,
and of course he takes this cub back to his cab,
and he's scared to death. The mom a bear is
going to show up, but she doesn't, and so he
starts training this bear and realize very quickly that the bear, well,

(09:38):
it was kind of like a dog for us nowadays.
The bear would cuddle up and sleep with them in bed.
Next thing, you know, he had this bear hooked up
to some kind of a I don't know, a sleigh
or a cart of some kind, like this bear is

(09:59):
a horse, you know, and he goes riding into town
with this grizzly bear pulling. Nobody had ever seen such
a thing. It was amazing. And the legend of this
man who had trained this bear keeps spreading, and it
became more and more popular, until finally he said, well,
I'm going to start catching more of these bears and

(10:22):
training them, and then I'll put all the little shows
for people with these bears and show them show how
well trained these bears are. Well, just when you thought
the story was sounding like it was going to have
a happy ending, no, something bad happened. But we're up
on a break. So when we come back, I'm going

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to tell you the rest of the story, and I'm
going to tell you why I'm telling you this story also,
and you know, there are people who contact me, They
email me and they say, Joshua, at the end of
the show, you usually play that good fortune tone and
I absolutely love it and I would like to listen
to it even more often. But how can I just

(11:05):
find that tone? And I say, it's easy. If you
go to my website, Joshuapwarren dot com. There's no period
after the P. Right there on the homepage and the
big bold, slimer green letters, it says click here for
Joshua's free newsletter. You click that. When you do that,
it takes you to a page I'm doing it right now,

(11:25):
And all you do is you put your email address
in there and hit sign up and boom, you will
become a subscriber to my free and spam free newsletter
and you will instantly receive an automated email from me
with links to all kinds of good, free fun stuff,
a good online a free online good luck charm, instructions

(11:49):
on how to build aura glasses that will help you
to see into the spirit realm. But one of the
things you're going to get is a link to my
five minute money Miracle secret. And I think we all
can use that right now. And if you go to
that page. You will find various versions of the Good

(12:10):
Fortune Tongue that you can you can play and listen
to download it to your phone. It's that simple. Joshua
Pewarren dot com. And while you're there, please check out
the Curiosity Shop. It's a free show. If you like it,
support it, buy something cool for yourself or a loved

(12:30):
one there at the Curiosity Shop at Joshua Pewarren dot com.
I am Joshua pee Warren. Now you're listening to Strange
Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Peronormal
Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back

(13:25):
to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host the Wizards
of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your worm whole
brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,
where every day is golden and every night is silver.

(13:47):
A Giao, Zume and I have been working in the
media for over thirty years, and I have been hosting
radio for I Guess over twenty years. And of course

(14:07):
you know, back when I started out in hosting radio
I mean, you would you get in your car, you
would drive to the station. You would go in and
sit down in front of a microphone, and then they'd
say you're on the air, and then you would talk
live into a microphone and then whatever you said it

(14:28):
was out there and there was no I mean, you
might have a delay for up to maybe eight seconds
or something like that if you accidentally used a bad word,
which I rarely did, and then after that you go home,
and there was no recording that was easily accessible to
the average person. I used to take a little boom

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box into the station and make my own audio cassette recordings. Nowadays,
of course, it's totally different with podcasts. So what's weird
about that is I can sit here and tell you
that it's Christmas time for me, but you might be

(15:11):
listening to this in the middle of a sweltering summer
day at the beach or something. So you're kind of
not supposed to talk about the circumstances that you're in
when you're doing a podcast, because it's not like a
live thing where we're all on the same boat. But
you know what, I don't care because I realize this

(15:34):
it is Christmas time for me right now, you're at
least hearing this in December, I'm drinking non alcoholic eggnog
as soon as the show's overall poured the hard stuff in.
And I'm very proud to say that I believe, I
believe that I have not missed a single week in

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this year that I think every single week I've had
a brand new show for you, and a lot of
people in my position would say I've taken the holidays off.
I'm just going to take a break. I'm not going
to record a show, but I decided not to do that.
I said, you know what, I'm going to go ahead
and see if I can do a whole full year
where I don't miss a single week. But here's what

(16:18):
I'm going to do as a release foul for December.
I'm going to just sort of talk about whatever the
heck that I want to and I'm not going to
stress out too much over like fitting it into a framework.
Just whatever's on my mind is what I'm going to
talk about. And I've always been intrigued with P. T. Barnum.

(16:39):
I mean, the show is called Strange Things, and this
is I mean, come on, who's stranger than P. T. Barnum.
I mean, you know. P. T. Barnum was born in
Connecticut eighteen ten. He died in Connecticut at the age

(17:02):
of eighty And I mean the guy. He was one
of the best businessmen of all time. And I know
that some people who don't know much about the life
of P. T. Barnum, they think that he was he
was kind of a bad guy who said there's a
sucker born every minute. That's actually not true. He never

(17:26):
said that. Apparently, historians say that he actually was very
respectful of his patrons, and he didn't he would the
last thing he would do was disparage them, and that
he really always wanted to feel like he had kind
of a humorous and joking relationship with his patrons. In

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other words, they wouldn't go see a P. T. Barnum
display and walk out and say, well, that was a sham.
He fooled us. Instead, they would walk out and say
that was a good humbug. And so P. T. Barnum.
Let me just tell if you are an entrepreneur, let
me tell you a book that you just must read.

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It's written by one of my favorite authors, Joe Vitally
last name spelled V a l e and it's called
There's a Customer Born every minute. There's a customer born
every minute, And it's P. T. Barnum's amazing Ten Rings
of Power for creating fame, fortune, and a business empire today. Guaranteed,

(18:34):
it's a great book, and it's about marketing, and P. T.
Barnum really understood the power of marketing on a level
that was absolutely genius. And of course, if you've never
seen the movie The Greatest Showman, it came out in
twenty seventeen starring Hugh Jackman, you should definitely watch that movie.

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And I don't usually recommend musicals. Yes, and trust me,
Hugh Jackman looks nothing like P. T. Barnum looked. But
here's one of the funny things. My wife Lauren and
I were on an airplane in the process of moving
to Las Vegas, and we had like a little kindle

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that we'd watch movies on. And this was an exciting
time for us. I mean, big move, like it's a
huge thing. I'm from the East coast, I'm moving to
the West Coast, and so I put on The Greatest
Showman expecting to be disappointed. Turns out I was not
at all disappointed. But very shortly into the movie P. T.

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Barnum's character there he goes to his kids and he says, look,
I bought something special for you. And he opens this
box and he needs to takes something out, and he says,
this is a wishing machine. And I just it just
gave me kind of goosebumps. And it's sort of of
like it's like a candle, and then it has the

(20:05):
shell around it with various designs, and when he spends it,
it projects the designs like stars all over the place,
and the kids are filled with wonder and I just
thought that was, I don't know, a little too synchronistic.
Here I am starting this new phase of my life
and I'm watching this movie on the airplane and the
guy pulls out the wishing machine. I actually bought a

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replica of that wishing machine from the movie that I
have somewhere, so I figure, sometimes just for fun, I
sit around and I read about P. T. Barnum, this
very strange man. I read about the people that he featured,
and sometimes I'm just gonna get on here and I'm

(20:47):
just gonna tell you the story, the life story of
somebody who was involved with P. T. Barnum and hopefully
you'll find that interesting. And right now I'm talking about
John Adams, not the John Adams, John Boyden Adams, who

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was born in eighteen twelve. You know, so John he
gets famous for these hanging out with all these bears.
And at some point he got a bear that he
named ben Hey, he named it after Benjamin Franklin. I

(21:33):
told you they were into presidents a lot back then.
But this time a mother bear did come along and
attacked John and almost killed him. As a matter of fact,
this mama grizzly bear bit into his head, if you
can imagine living through something like that, and took this

(21:55):
big chunk of his skull out. And right before he died,
the bear, the little bear, the little bear beIN came
in and somehow saved him, fought this big mama bear off.
But that headwound when that bear took that chunk out
of his skull. Oh, he never was gonna ever get

(22:16):
over that. Really, it actually left a piece of his
You could look and see his brain, all right. I
know that's disgusting, but there you go. You could see
a chunk of his head was gone, and you could
look at there and see his brain tissue. But he,
you know, he kept going. He captured this one bear

(22:38):
named Samson, fifteen hundred pounds. They say it's one of
the largest grizzly bears ever captured live. I wonder how
much fifteen pounds is and kilograms six hundred and eighty kilograms.

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It's a big bear. So anyway, John, he keeps collecting
these bears and next thing, you know, he sets up
kind of like a he called it a museum, but
it was a show and people would come from all
over the place and they would watch him with his
trained bears, and he started making some serious do But

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then at some point another bear attacked him, went for
that little weak spot in his head, bit him there
on the head. Again. He was having trouble running the business,
and he finally was in a situation where he just
couldn't run the business very well. He was about to

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be he was losing his business. And that is when P. T.
Barnum contacted him. P T. Barnum had been reading all
of these newspaper stories about this guy in California, you
who had this amazing ability to go out and capture
these bears and train them and tame them, So P. T.
Barnum says, why don't you come out here to the

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East Coast and I'm going to become your promoter, and
I'm going to feature you, and we're going to call
you Grizzly Adams. I wonder I know some of you
guessed from the very beginning that I was talking about
Grizzly Adams, John Adams. It is Grizzly Adams. Some of

(24:36):
you had no idea. Some of you still don't know
who the heck I'm talking about, depends on when you
were born. But when we come back, I'll explain more
about who Grizzly Adams was. I'm going to tell you
the end of this story, and then I think I
might even have a special treat for you. Who knows

(24:57):
what I'm going to do. It's Christmas time for me.
I'm up for anything. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening
to Range Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back
after these messages. Welcome back to Strange Things on the

(25:52):
iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AMN Paranormal Podcast Network.
I am your host Joshua wa Pee Warren and this
is the show where the unusual becomes usual. It has
been a tough year. Twenty twenty four has been a
tough year, of course. You know. I'm from the East Coast,
originally Asheville, North Carolina, and they got hammered by that

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hurricane flooding and they're still you know, it's gonna be
a while before they completely recover from that. I mean,
it was historic an election year. Those are always fun. Huh.
It's been so exhausting. But imagine back in those days.
You know, I can get on an airplane now and

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watch a couple of movies and have a microwave dinner,
and I can go from one coast to the other
coast of this country. But back in the eighteen hundreds,
I mean, my goodness, at this point where we're talking
about eighteen sixty, I believe John Grizzly Adams. He gets

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this invitation to go travel across the country and uh
and start being you know, promoted by P. T. Barnum.
And even if you are an old, stinky, dirty mountain man,
if you get famous, you will start attracting the ladies.

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And so he got a woman at this point he
got married. See, guys, if you think all hope is lost,
go out there, start catching some grizzly bears. The ladies will,
they'll notice, they'll come around. So he loads up his bears,
his menagerie as they call it. He gets you know,

(27:50):
the whole the whole kid in kaboodle. He and his
wife they get on this clipper in San Francisco and
they sell all the way down our round Africa to
get to the East coast via Kate Horn. Three and
a half months they're on this ship and then once

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they get over there, things are going well. But then
you know, he starts training all these animals and guess
what happens. He gets some monkey, some crazy wild monkey,
and that monkey jumps on him, and guess what the

(28:33):
monkey does, bites him right in that hole on his head.
Isn't that amazing how animals can sense your weak spot
like that? It was bad and that monkey got him.
I mean this, this guy just keeps getting bitten in
the brain. I mean they say that, you know, his

(28:55):
scalp is dislodged. He has like a silver dollar sized
hole there every every why is this funny? This is
this is sad? Every animal keeps biting this guy in
this hole and biting him on the brain. And so anyway, uh,

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finally it's it becomes clear like he's this guy is
going downhill fast. And so he made this deal after
performing with P. T. Barnum. Uh, he said, look, I'm
going to retire, but I wanted to sell you this menagerie.

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And also let's see it. Says that Barnum was like,
you go go rest up, but he said, look, let
me just perform. Give me ten more weeks to keep
performing for another five even though he could hardly walk
onto the stage, but he needed that money in his

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plan to feel like that he had provided a comfortable
sum for his wife. And P. T. Barnum was such
a nice guy that he goes, okay, fine and lets
this guy work with his brain hanging out for another
ten weeks and gets the five hundred dollars and then
Adams goes to He goes to Massachusetts, where he's from,

(30:30):
where he's from. Five days after he gets there, he's
at home with his wife and he dies on October
the twenty fifth of eighteen sixty, at the age of
forty eight. Now October twenty fifth is my birthday and

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I am currently forty eight years old. Grizzly Adams died
October twenty fifth, at the age of forty eight. What
is the significance as Peewee Herman said, I don't know,

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but I did pay attention to that and that, you know,
that's kind of I don't know, that's kind of interesting. Also,
he was born in the middle of well at the
beginning of the War of eighteen twelve, and then of
course he dies in eighteen sixty. The next year the
Civil War starts. I mean, if you think you've got

(31:40):
it tough right now, maybe that's the point of this
story is, you know, think, if you think you've got
it tough, think about how guys like him used to live.
And you know what, when he started getting famous for
being able to train all these bears and whatnot, there
was this art artist who came to pretty much make

(32:05):
drawings of some of his bears. Let's see, I believe
the artist was Charles Christian Naal and he did some
kind of watercolor in eighteen fifty five of one of
Grizzly adams Grizzly bears. And they say that that actually
was pretty much the same bear painting that California uses

(32:30):
to this day on their flag, the California Grizzly, which
I don't think there are any grizzlies in California anymore.
I didn't look into that specifically. I'm pretty sure they're
in no grizzlies in California. But you know, so when
you look at the flag of California, it's a Grizzly

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Adams bear. Now again, I'm forty eight. My wife is.
I don't want to give my wife's age out. She
might not like that, but you know, she's in the
ballpark of my age. And when we grew up, there
was this show on TV in the nineteen seventies about

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Grizzly Adams. And let's see here, some of you are
gonna remember this. It turns out that in nineteen seventy
four there was this independent feature film produced called The
Life and Times of Grizzly Adams, and that was such

(33:38):
a hit that it got turned into a television show.
And so when my wife Lauren and I were kids,
we were watching this Grizzly Adams TV show. Bozo the
Bear played Ben says two seasons, thirty eight episodes. We

(34:03):
both liked that movie or that TV series. I don't
even know if I saw the movie. Dan Haggerty was
the actor who played Grizzly Adams, and you know, I
don't know of anything else the guy really did. Frankly.
I know they said he had a little part and
Easy Rider. He was seventy three years old when he died,

(34:26):
and apparently he had to go. He had some kind
of like back surgery, and he in twenty fifteen, and
so while they were doing back surgery, they discovered that
he had this tumor on his spine, so he had
spinal cancer and then you know, it didn't take too

(34:47):
long before he passed away in Burbank, California. But I,
you know, I started reading about this, and I don't
know how I came across this information exactly. Maybe it
was because I had the same birthday as the day
when the real Grizzly Adams died. But I was telling
Lauren about this story, and Lauren said, I never knew
there was a real Grizzly Adams, and that's why I

(35:10):
thought maybe this. You know, it's kind of cool to
share stories like this with you on this podcast sometimes,
and you know, even if it's just you know, it's
just some kind of a bio basically of somebody. As
a matter of fact, there was this man in New
York back in eighteen twenty three, now that we're talking

(35:36):
about like really old times here, old guys. There was
this man in New York in eighteen twenty three, and
it was Christmas time for him, and he went on
a shopping trip. It says, let's see here. Uh, yeah,

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he was shopping and he got into a sleigh and
he was going through the snow. You can imagine eighteen
twenty three, this guy what's his name, what's his name,

(36:21):
Clement Clark Moore. Yeah, he gets in a sleigh and
he's going on a shopping trip and as he you know,
this is December, and as he's going on this shopping trip,
he starts, I don't know, inspiration hits and he has

(36:42):
this idea for a poem, and he starts, he starts
composing this poem, and of course the poem becomes one
of the most famous poems ever. I guess he finished
the shopping trip and then he got home and he
decided to keep writing it. It's called the Visit from
Saint Nicholas. You probably know it is twas the Night

(37:06):
before Christmas or just the night before Christmas. I'll tell
you what, when we come back, I'm going to read
it to you. When's the last time you actually heard
somebody read twas the Night before Christmas? Maybe you were
a child. Well, you're gonna get it when you come
back to the show. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening

(37:28):
to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost
I AMN Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back.

(38:14):
Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of
Strange Things. Oh the iHeart Prady you and Coast to
Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
And looks like the Clement Clark Moore was born in
seventeen seventy nine died eighteen sixty three. He was old

(38:39):
eighty three years old, so I guess he wrote this
poem when he was around forty. It says that he
was a real estate developer. He looks very regal and patrician.

(39:00):
I wonder if that's true. You think this guy was
actually on a like a sleigh in the snow when
he started writing this ah, here we go a visit
from Saint Nicholas. Ridden in eighteen twenty three by Clement
Clark Moore. Twas the night before Christmas, went all through

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the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in
hopes that Saint Nicholas soon would be there. The children
were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of
sugar plums danced in their heads. And Mama and her kerchief,

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and I in my cap, had just settled our brains
for a long winter's nap, when out on the lawn
there arose such a clatter. I sprang from the bed
to see what was the matter. Away to the window,
I flew, like a flash pour open the shutters and
threw up the sash. The moon on the breast of

(40:17):
the new fallen snow gave the luster of midday to
objects below. When what to my wondering eyes should appear
but a miniature sleigh and a tiny reindeer with a
little old driver. So lively and quick I knew in
a moment it must be Saint Nick. More rapid than eagles,

(40:41):
his coursers they came, and he whistled and shouted and
called him by name, Now Dasher, now Dancer, now Prancer,
and vixen on Comet on, Cupid, on Dunder, and Blitzen.
To the top of the porch, to the top of
the wall. Now dash away, dash away, dash away, all

(41:04):
as dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly. When
they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky, so
up to the house top the coursers they flew with
a sleigh full of toys, and Saint Nicholas too. And
then in a twinkling I heard on the roof the

(41:26):
pantsing and pawing of each little hoof. As I drew
in my head and was turning around down the chimney,
Saint Nicholas came with a bound. He was dressed all
in fur from his head to his foot, and his
clothes were all tarnished with ashes, and stood a bundle

(41:47):
of toys he had flung on his back, And he
looked like a peddler just opening his pack. His eyes,
how they twinkled, his dimples, how merry, his cheeks were
like roses, his nose like a cherry. His droll little
mouth was drawn up like a bow, and the beard

(42:09):
of his chin was as white as the snow. The
stump of a pipe he held tight in his teeth,
and the smoke encircled his head like a wreath. He
had a broad face and a little round belly that
shook when he laughed, like a bowlful of jelly. He
was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf. And

(42:33):
I laughed when I saw him in spite of myself.
A wink of his eye and a twist of his
head soon gave me to know I had nothing to
dread now. He spoke not a word, but went straight
to his work and filled all the stockings, and turned
with a jerk, and laying his finger aside of his nose,

(42:55):
and giving a nod up the chimney. He rose, He
sprang to his sleigh, to his team, gave a whistle,
and away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, or he drove out of sight.

(43:15):
Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
There you go, a visit from Saint Nicholas. I think
I only messed up once, I said. I think I

(43:36):
said panting instead of prancing or something that's Okay, why
don't you do it? So all right, that's a visit
from Saint Nicholas and a great poem. It really established
sort of how we feel about Santa Claus, the image

(43:59):
of Santa Clause, and then of course Coca Cola they
chimed in and they made a big, big difference. But
you know one thing that is kind of interesting when
you read about this poem, It says that this is
the first time that all of the reindeer were named.

(44:22):
So regardless of what you think about Saint Nicholas and such,
one of the things that's kind of cool about this
is that he who knows how he came up with
those names. And I swear to you I'm not making
this up. There are people who have contacted me over
the years and they swear to God that they have

(44:46):
seen Santa Claus. And I mean not just Santa Claus
running around outside, but they've seen in some cases the sleigh,
they've seen the reindeer. And you know, I don't have
time to get into the whole Tulpa thing right now,
but it makes you wonder, doesn't it. I Mean, we
all know what Santa is supposed to look like, is

(45:08):
it possible that we're talking about a tulpa that we've
created that has become externalized. I got this email from
a man in Florida. His name is Stephen. He said,
given your experience investigating tulpa's, I was wondering if you
had any thoughts on the rise of AI friendship apps

(45:30):
and the possibility that they could be creating tulpa's Personally.
I think it could, just like with slender Man, but
since there would only be one person energizing it, it
wouldn't necessarily be accidental or would it take longer. Thank
you for your time. If you want to use this
on your show, you can well. Steven, thank you for

(45:51):
the email. It's a very interesting one, and thank you
for also including that it's okay to talk about your
email on the show. Yes, I definitely. You know what
it seems to me, Stephen, that AI is almost a
form of tulpa itself. It's like a technical tulpa that

(46:13):
we have created, as opposed to an organic one that
we just project out of our heads. Because usually you
think of tulpa a's as being something that you just
you visualize and you imagine and then you project it
like a beam out of your head and either a
powerful person does it or enough people do it collectively

(46:36):
so that you create that thing. Well, if you reduce
that into a technological manifestation, then I would say, certainly
a tulpa is sort of like a scientific let me
put it this away, AI is kind of like a

(46:57):
scientific version of a tulpa, so much so that the
AI might actually believe it is conscious. Just like when
you produce a tulpa, you wonder does the tulpa have
some consciousness or believe it is conscious. Now, in some cases,

(47:20):
the tulpa traditionally doesn't even have to be a personality.
It could also be a thought form that's more abstract,
you know, like colors of the rainbow that are surrounding
some kind of the bells of a church ringing and
that sort of thing. But you know, this is like

(47:40):
basically Philip K. Dick material when you're talking about AI
and digging into whether or not that if you had
the equivalent of C three Po from a Star Wars,
if C three po believe eves that C three po

(48:02):
is conscious, does that make C three po a conscious being?
And if not, well, then what is the difference between
C three po and you and me, where do we
draw that line? So, look, this is a this is
a big topic. Maybe I'll do a whole show about
this at some point. But yes, you're right, AI is

(48:22):
a type of scientifically technical. It's a scientific technical tulpa.
That's I think what we're talking about. All right, Well
this has been a weird one. But think you're the
one who wanted to listen to a show called Strange Things.
So take a deep breath, if you can, close your eyes.

(48:43):
Let's now finish with the good Fortune tone. That's it

(49:10):
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