December 19, 2024 • 18 mins
George Noory and spirit communicator Karen Dahlman explore her experiences contacting spirits with Ouija boards, why some people enjoy using Ouija boards while other people fear them, and Native American traditions of channeling the spirits of dead ancestors.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori along
with Karen Dolman Back with Us, author one of her
latest books, When Kats Had Wings, Paranormal researcher, licensed counselor
spirit Communicated Now she's an officer and director of the
Talking Board Historical Society. Was born with the gifts of
clairvoyance and Claire Audience. Karen communicates with cynient beans in
(00:27):
the Unseen Dimensions and shares the messages she receives and
has been channeling while using the Ouiji board since nineteen
seventy three, and she claims she's got a stounding result.
Hello Karen, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, Hi George, Happy Holidays to you too. It's great
to be back with you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We had Suzanne Wilson on a week or so ago
and she just raved about you.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know, Susanna and I have used the board together.
We sat before and used it a few times, and
you know, she's a great channeler herself. When you use
the board, you're actually just channeling. The board becomes a
way to display your channeling activity. We can get more
into that tonight. But yeah, Suzanne's great at what she
does as well.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What have you been up to these days?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh been so busy traveling and stuff. And it's just
crazy how fast this last year is gone. Has it
not just flown by?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah? The twenty four has been a rocket ship. I
don't know if he was because of after COVID or what,
but this thing just took off, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So, you know, that's a good point. We were so
locked up for a while there that, you know, we
just everybody just went full speed. Everything went full speeds, fastboard,
and here we are the end of the year. I
can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People still talk about Wuiji boards, Karen, of.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Course they do. They're very popular in pop culture now,
and you'll see all different types of wija board spirit boards,
whichboards coming out that emulate the movies that you'll see
that are paranormal movies or just shows in particular. I mean,
people like the idea of what the wigi boid represents
and also how you can use it and what you
can do with them.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's true. Let's talk about channeling for a little bit.
In your opinion, what is channeling? First of all, give
us a broad overlook.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it's good to get a definition as we have
our conversation today. Channeling is a way to access other
information that's out there, and it could be information from
sentient beings, it could be information from your higher self,
it can be information from guides. But it's a way
to access information that you bring forth. Of course, you
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can't separate the person doing the channeling from what they're channeling,
meaning a lot of times we will influence the information
by our own perspectives, our own views, our own lenses,
if you will, that we use when we bring forth
the information. But you're bringing it from out there through
yourself and then expressing it in your own way. So
it could be, you know, voice channeling. It could be
(02:57):
a direct voice channeling in that sense. It could be
like psyche readings or medium ship. It could be used
an oisia board, It could be using a tro cards
or some other kind of oracle type of reading. But
we do it in many different ways. Automatic writings another one,
and what a lot of people do now is they
just use their keyboard or their phone and tap out messages.
(03:19):
But it's growing divine messages from higher levels of consciousness
or water perspectives of consciousness and bringing it through into
this dimension and sharing it forward.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
How did channeling start for you, Karen, Well, the.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Interesting thing about that question is I was already doing it,
not knowing I was doing it. So when I was
super young, I remember having this when you and I've
talked about this before. What everybody else called was an
imaginary playmate, and it wasn't an imaginary playmate. This theme
was right there with me. And his name was Daki Vaki,
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and I remember I would talk to him and play
with him and buck that in the age of two, three,
four or five. And when I went to school, my
mother said, you really need to quit talking to things
that other people can't see, because you're going to be
made fun of at school. So she really wanted me
to have success at school, so told me to put
Jackie away. And what was happening was I was receiving
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messages from this bean, the sentient bean, who was very
kind and friendly and warm. We had fun, we play
together and give me information and receiving that telepathically. He
would just give me information. I'd ask questions about a
lot of things about life in general. Was going on?
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Who were these people that were my parents. I mean,
such weird questions like that a young child would be asking.
But I was asking these questions and he would give
me information, and when I put him away, I realized, Wow,
nobody else could see him. What was this experience. So
when I had an opportunity at the age of eight
to use Sylgia board, that's when I realized that was
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one form of channeling in which I can be back
in contact with beings that were in other dimensions. And
so it just kind of grew from there, and then
the board became a wonderful device, if you will, kind
of display of my channeling abilities. When I realized I
can also do this without the board, which is pretty
much what I do now. I use the board still,
(05:20):
but I will channel without the board, just a direct
channel as I did as a child. So it's like, George,
I've come full circle back to how I entered this world.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Why do you love the board, Karen? And then somebody
like me doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well you're gonna have to ask that question, George. Well
you don't, but some people like the board as I
do because well, there's several reasons. One the collector's items,
I collect them I have an extensive collection, and so
do many of my colleagues, especially all the members of
the Talking Board Historical Society. All those directors have hundreds,
if not thousands of boards in their collection, and we
(05:59):
enjoyed the h three of them. It's very unique history.
It's from America, came out of the eight and eighty
eighteen eighty six in that era, and it's part of
the rich history of just the whole idea of doing
seances and spiritualism. So there's a whole, wealthy, rich history there. Plus,
they're very diverse looking. Like I mentioned, you'll find different
(06:21):
boards nowadays coming out that emulate movies or shows, stranger things,
the WIA series, av the Osborne. I mean, everybody has
a wig order spirit for it, so they have really
neat imagery on them, so they're pretty I like them
because I like them for those reasons, but I also
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like them because it allows me to bring through divine
wisdom and consciousness from other spiritual beings that have helped
me and helped my clients over the years.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Do we all have the ability to channel?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We do. In fact, we're all channeling all the time
throughout the day. I mean, when you go into a
state of we'll call it synanbilistic state or a self
hypnosis kind of state. For example, you're driving your car
and you may not remember when you stop at that
stop sign or stop at the red light, and then
when it turned green. It's almost like an auditmatic state.
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You're bringing forth information. You can kind of check out
of your normal consciousness and allow your subconscious to check in.
And that's what you do with Channel. You learn to
step aside to get out of the thinking brain I
call it a logical side of the brain and get
more into your creative faculties of your brain where you
can allow the information to come forth, but you can't
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critiqul or criticize it or stop the flow. You've got
to be like, you know, just automatically stopping at that
red light and automatically drive it, going to get again
when it's green. But we we constantly are bringing forth information.
Another example, probably even a better example, is when we
have a great idea or an epiphany. You go, aha,
(07:59):
a nice solved that problem, or I thought it was
something new to do with my business or something. We're
chilling information. Where's it coming from? Well, it could be
coming from our greater higher self. It could be coming
from the divine source all that is to be coming
from God. It could be coming from your relatives, deceased relatives,
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and the other realms. But we're possibly bringing in information
and that's a lighter form of channeling.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We hear a lot about spirit guides, who or what
are they?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, spirit guides and those beings that want to be
there to assist us. Now, they don't live our life
for us, but they'll be our cheerleaders, my spirit guide
always could they they consider us your cheerleaders, standing at
the sidelines of your life and we're sharing you on,
but we're not going to step into the game and
play it for you. So if you can see the
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spirit guides with these beings that are also grown and
evolving in their own dimensions as they reach out and
work with us in our dimension, and it's a it's
a relationship, so it's not one sided like they're better
than us, so they know so much more other times
sometimes they do, but it's the fact that they get
to work with this human experience and kind of experience
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it through our own lives, but also assist us and
share us on and help us well. You may need it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So if somebody wants to start channeling on their own,
what's the best way for them to do it?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, the best way to do it is really just
to do it by yourself. And what I mean by
that is it's not getting caught up in any device
or because then we all have our our belief system
about devices such as leisure board or trow cards or
oracle decks or eaching or wherever we choose to use.
Start with yourself. Get into a self hypnosis kind of
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meditation kind of state of being where you're relaxed. You
can get a relaxed state and open up your heart
and say, I would like to channel my divine wisdom.
I would like to channel my greatest self. I would
like to channel my higher self. Now I tend to
like use the word higher self, but sometimes that's scarce
people because it sounds like it's outside of them. Where
(10:15):
I'm really saying, channel your soul self, channel that being
a spark of you that exists even when you're not
in body, and be in touch with that my spirit
guide call that they're plugging into your higher consciousness and
ask you have to have the intention set, but the
key here is to be in a relaxed state. You
could be you know, sitting in a chair, laying down
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on a bed, but be where you have your you
have your own undivided attention, nobody distracting your no animals
coming in and jumping on you want in pets and
stuff like that, but taking your time and saying, I
open myself up to this higher wisdom and see what
comes through, feel what comes through, hear what comes through.
And then when you do that for a few moments,
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right some thoughts down, write some feelings down. It's really
allowing yourself to get out of your own way and
allow the energy to flow through you allow yourself to
tap into this greater level of consciousness, which I really
feel like we're all tapped into. It's just a matter
of learning to bring it forth and open up to
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allow it to come through. And then you're going to
start getting insights. Like I mentioned earlier Epiphanes, the aha
moments or thinkronistic things start to happen because as you
start to channel, you start to be more in tune
with who you really are. There's quite a few steps
to it, but the best way is to do it
with yourself in silence.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
What if you end up channeling something or is some
entday you don't want to.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, here's the thing if I mentioned earlier. When you channel,
it's all based upon your own perceptions. It's based upon
your views of the world. It's based upon your lenses
in which you see the world and view yourself in
relationship to that world. See, when I was a child,
I didn't seem it is scary. When I was talking
to sing it was just a very firmly experience. So
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I was very fortunate I didn't have any fripful things
like that happened to me. But as I got older,
I was able to say, now I can intentionally set
the way I want this to go about. And I'm
a positive person. You know me, you know me in
real life, so I tend to bring that to my
sessions and my views of myself and relationship to the
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world is that I'm not a pond to it. I'm
actually a co creator. So you really have to shift
your mindset when you channel, and then you're going to
be met with that same mindset. That same type of
energy you put out is the energy you track back.
That's a really important thing. You ask me George, is
that when you channel, you must get into the space
of I'm open, I'm positive, I believe I can reach
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the higher self. And that's why I say keep it
with your inner self, higher self, because that's the positive
experience as opposed to trying to bring in other other individuals, entities,
or beings that are out there. But you can attract
what it is you put out there and how you
view the world. Again, get yourself in that energetic state
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that's going to bring to you that same type of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
When you channel. Karen, are you aware of what you're doing?
I mean, are you alert?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I am one hundred percent conscious channeler. So there are
things I will say in my readings for people when
I'm channeling directly just voice channeling, but I'll say I'm
hearing this. I'm going to tell you this if they
reached out to me three months later and said, you
remember saying that. I don't, because I do so many readings,
I don't remember everything I say. But when the moment
of giving it, I'm very much conscious. What it seems
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like to me is I've just stept open, or how
it says I've opened at the door wider where I
instead of using a garden hose, I'm using like a
fire truck hose. The opening, the opening to do this
work is wide open. I get into a state relaxation
and positivity and then allow the information to flow through.
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And I trust, I trust what I'm receiving because I've
been doing this for such a long time, over fifty
one years now and channeling off the board. Gosh, for
about he could spend about fifteen years off the board.
So I put a lot of work into this to
fine tune my own energy so I could be met
with that same type of energy came back.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Edgar Casey, the great American Sleeping Profit, was a channeler too,
wasn't He sure was, And.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
He was a channeler who was a trans medium. So
he would go into it he was unconscious, he'd go
into state, well, he'd relax. They called the sleeping Profits
for that reason. He would go into this sleeplike state
so deep with his brain waves, and he bring back information,
whether it was the Kashik record and information or reading's
first clients, or healing advice, medical advice for his clients.
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But yeah, he was somebody who went in such a
deep state that he was not conscious in the consciousness
of being awake.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I am what does consciousness? What does consciousness mean to you? Karen?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, because I like to keep it really simple. I mean,
there's a lot of theories out there. They relate to
string theory, and you can get real physical, like get
into physics with it. I didn't like to keep it
very simple. And how it's explained to me from my
guide and how I like to explain it to my
clients is that consciousness is this greater matrix of energy,
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of an energetic field that we're all that we're all
connected with them. So it's the divine. It's the flow
of the Divine flowing through all of us. And if
I could tap that spark of the divine within somebody else,
another being.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Whether it's a animal or some kind of being with awareness,
a sentient being, then I can go through that pathway
of this matrix of energetic, this energetic field and tap
into that.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Now. See, it's really interesting. Humanity has been doing this
since the birth of humanity, has been working with sentient
beings and awareness and consciousness, maybe not using those terminologies,
but they have the ability to talk to the ancestors,
which is very much what I'm talking about. So indigenous
cultures and native cultures were already doing this where they
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were in touch with what you may call the standing
tall beans, which would be the trees or daya mother Earth,
and a lot of their mythological stories, the creation stories
were giving whether it's planet, stars, the earth, the sky,
the animals, a sense of sentients where they could tap
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into them. And so that's a form of channeling through
the consciousness, of reaching their consciousness. So I feel like
you can do this through hitting that vibe, the vibration
or frequency that were all connected to, and I like
to call it the spark of the divine that's found
within all of us.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Tell me more about the sentient beings. What are they?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Well, there's many different loves of sentient beings. You're a
sentient beans, you have an awareness, you're alive, you can think,
you feel. We're all sentient beings. Humans are sentient beings,
Animals are sentient beings. You can even take it down
the level, like I mentioned trees. There's a lot of
studies now on vegetable life, trees and plants that say
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they have an awareness to them. You know, there was
the old studies that were done on tomato plants where
somebody of research were walk into the room and rip
their leaves and they were attached to electrodes to be
their response, and the plants would cringe when that person
walk back in afraid that their leaves are fearing that
their leaves were going to be ripped again. So there's
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been more and more work done around trees and plants
that they have an awareness. They send out smells to
scare away other animals, they are eating their leaves, or
they help their other saplings or trees cut down or
falls down, they reach their roots toward them. There's so
much neat research going on in science that's showing that,
you know, even trees have sentient consciousness. But I believe
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that sentient beings go even further than that. If you
can reach it, tap into it through your intentions, they're sentient.
And just because we think something's not sentient doesn't mean
it's not. So we can look at wild animals, you
can look at snakes, lizards, you can look at buffalo, fish, dolphins.
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They all have a sentience awareness. It's a matter of
us learning to tap into them. And I find, as
I mentioned earlier, the easiest way to do that. The
direct route to do that is finding a divine spark
where source flows through them, and if I can tap that,
then I can reach into them and receive messages from them.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori along
with Karen Dolman Back with Us, author one of her
latest books, When Kats Had Wings, Paranormal researcher, licensed counselor
spirit Communicated Now she's an officer and director of the
Talking Board Historical Society. Was born with the gifts of
clairvoyance and Claire Audience. Karen communicates with cynient beans in
(00:27):
the Unseen Dimensions and shares the messages she receives and
has been channeling while using the Ouiji board since nineteen
seventy three, and she claims she's got a stounding result.
Hello Karen, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, Hi George, Happy Holidays to you too. It's great
to be back with you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
We had Suzanne Wilson on a week or so ago
and she just raved about you.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You know, Susanna and I have used the board together.
We sat before and used it a few times, and
you know, she's a great channeler herself. When you use
the board, you're actually just channeling. The board becomes a
way to display your channeling activity. We can get more
into that tonight. But yeah, Suzanne's great at what she
does as well.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What have you been up to these days?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Oh been so busy traveling and stuff. And it's just
crazy how fast this last year is gone. Has it
not just flown by?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah? The twenty four has been a rocket ship. I
don't know if he was because of after COVID or what,
but this thing just took off, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So, you know, that's a good point. We were so
locked up for a while there that, you know, we
just everybody just went full speed. Everything went full speeds, fastboard,
and here we are the end of the year. I
can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People still talk about Wuiji boards, Karen, of.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Course they do. They're very popular in pop culture now,
and you'll see all different types of wija board spirit boards,
whichboards coming out that emulate the movies that you'll see
that are paranormal movies or just shows in particular. I mean,
people like the idea of what the wigi boid represents
and also how you can use it and what you
can do with them.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's true. Let's talk about channeling for a little bit.
In your opinion, what is channeling? First of all, give
us a broad overlook.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, it's good to get a definition as we have
our conversation today. Channeling is a way to access other
information that's out there, and it could be information from
sentient beings, it could be information from your higher self,
it can be information from guides. But it's a way
to access information that you bring forth. Of course, you
(02:36):
can't separate the person doing the channeling from what they're channeling,
meaning a lot of times we will influence the information
by our own perspectives, our own views, our own lenses,
if you will, that we use when we bring forth
the information. But you're bringing it from out there through
yourself and then expressing it in your own way. So
it could be, you know, voice channeling. It could be
(02:57):
a direct voice channeling in that sense. It could be
like psyche readings or medium ship. It could be used
an oisia board, It could be using a tro cards
or some other kind of oracle type of reading. But
we do it in many different ways. Automatic writings another one,
and what a lot of people do now is they
just use their keyboard or their phone and tap out messages.
(03:19):
But it's growing divine messages from higher levels of consciousness
or water perspectives of consciousness and bringing it through into
this dimension and sharing it forward.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
How did channeling start for you, Karen, Well, the.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Interesting thing about that question is I was already doing it,
not knowing I was doing it. So when I was
super young, I remember having this when you and I've
talked about this before. What everybody else called was an
imaginary playmate, and it wasn't an imaginary playmate. This theme
was right there with me. And his name was Daki Vaki,
(03:54):
and I remember I would talk to him and play
with him and buck that in the age of two, three,
four or five. And when I went to school, my
mother said, you really need to quit talking to things
that other people can't see, because you're going to be
made fun of at school. So she really wanted me
to have success at school, so told me to put
Jackie away. And what was happening was I was receiving
(04:16):
messages from this bean, the sentient bean, who was very
kind and friendly and warm. We had fun, we play
together and give me information and receiving that telepathically. He
would just give me information. I'd ask questions about a
lot of things about life in general. Was going on?
(04:36):
Who were these people that were my parents. I mean,
such weird questions like that a young child would be asking.
But I was asking these questions and he would give
me information, and when I put him away, I realized, Wow,
nobody else could see him. What was this experience. So
when I had an opportunity at the age of eight
to use Sylgia board, that's when I realized that was
(04:59):
one form of channeling in which I can be back
in contact with beings that were in other dimensions. And
so it just kind of grew from there, and then
the board became a wonderful device, if you will, kind
of display of my channeling abilities. When I realized I
can also do this without the board, which is pretty
much what I do now. I use the board still,
(05:20):
but I will channel without the board, just a direct
channel as I did as a child. So it's like, George,
I've come full circle back to how I entered this world.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Why do you love the board, Karen? And then somebody
like me doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well you're gonna have to ask that question, George. Well
you don't, but some people like the board as I
do because well, there's several reasons. One the collector's items,
I collect them I have an extensive collection, and so
do many of my colleagues, especially all the members of
the Talking Board Historical Society. All those directors have hundreds,
if not thousands of boards in their collection, and we
(05:59):
enjoyed the h three of them. It's very unique history.
It's from America, came out of the eight and eighty
eighteen eighty six in that era, and it's part of
the rich history of just the whole idea of doing
seances and spiritualism. So there's a whole, wealthy, rich history there. Plus,
they're very diverse looking. Like I mentioned, you'll find different
(06:21):
boards nowadays coming out that emulate movies or shows, stranger things,
the WIA series, av the Osborne. I mean, everybody has
a wig order spirit for it, so they have really
neat imagery on them, so they're pretty I like them
because I like them for those reasons, but I also
(06:42):
like them because it allows me to bring through divine
wisdom and consciousness from other spiritual beings that have helped
me and helped my clients over the years.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Do we all have the ability to channel?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We do. In fact, we're all channeling all the time
throughout the day. I mean, when you go into a
state of we'll call it synanbilistic state or a self
hypnosis kind of state. For example, you're driving your car
and you may not remember when you stop at that
stop sign or stop at the red light, and then
when it turned green. It's almost like an auditmatic state.
(07:17):
You're bringing forth information. You can kind of check out
of your normal consciousness and allow your subconscious to check in.
And that's what you do with Channel. You learn to
step aside to get out of the thinking brain I
call it a logical side of the brain and get
more into your creative faculties of your brain where you
can allow the information to come forth, but you can't
(07:39):
critiqul or criticize it or stop the flow. You've got
to be like, you know, just automatically stopping at that
red light and automatically drive it, going to get again
when it's green. But we we constantly are bringing forth information.
Another example, probably even a better example, is when we
have a great idea or an epiphany. You go, aha,
(07:59):
a nice solved that problem, or I thought it was
something new to do with my business or something. We're
chilling information. Where's it coming from? Well, it could be
coming from our greater higher self. It could be coming
from the divine source all that is to be coming
from God. It could be coming from your relatives, deceased relatives,
(08:21):
and the other realms. But we're possibly bringing in information
and that's a lighter form of channeling.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We hear a lot about spirit guides, who or what
are they?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, spirit guides and those beings that want to be
there to assist us. Now, they don't live our life
for us, but they'll be our cheerleaders, my spirit guide
always could they they consider us your cheerleaders, standing at
the sidelines of your life and we're sharing you on,
but we're not going to step into the game and
play it for you. So if you can see the
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spirit guides with these beings that are also grown and
evolving in their own dimensions as they reach out and
work with us in our dimension, and it's a it's
a relationship, so it's not one sided like they're better
than us, so they know so much more other times
sometimes they do, but it's the fact that they get
to work with this human experience and kind of experience
(09:15):
it through our own lives, but also assist us and
share us on and help us well. You may need it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
So if somebody wants to start channeling on their own,
what's the best way for them to do it?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, the best way to do it is really just
to do it by yourself. And what I mean by
that is it's not getting caught up in any device
or because then we all have our our belief system
about devices such as leisure board or trow cards or
oracle decks or eaching or wherever we choose to use.
Start with yourself. Get into a self hypnosis kind of
(09:52):
meditation kind of state of being where you're relaxed. You
can get a relaxed state and open up your heart
and say, I would like to channel my divine wisdom.
I would like to channel my greatest self. I would
like to channel my higher self. Now I tend to
like use the word higher self, but sometimes that's scarce
people because it sounds like it's outside of them. Where
(10:15):
I'm really saying, channel your soul self, channel that being
a spark of you that exists even when you're not
in body, and be in touch with that my spirit
guide call that they're plugging into your higher consciousness and
ask you have to have the intention set, but the
key here is to be in a relaxed state. You
could be you know, sitting in a chair, laying down
(10:38):
on a bed, but be where you have your you
have your own undivided attention, nobody distracting your no animals
coming in and jumping on you want in pets and
stuff like that, but taking your time and saying, I
open myself up to this higher wisdom and see what
comes through, feel what comes through, hear what comes through.
And then when you do that for a few moments,
(10:59):
right some thoughts down, write some feelings down. It's really
allowing yourself to get out of your own way and
allow the energy to flow through you allow yourself to
tap into this greater level of consciousness, which I really
feel like we're all tapped into. It's just a matter
of learning to bring it forth and open up to
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allow it to come through. And then you're going to
start getting insights. Like I mentioned earlier Epiphanes, the aha
moments or thinkronistic things start to happen because as you
start to channel, you start to be more in tune
with who you really are. There's quite a few steps
to it, but the best way is to do it
with yourself in silence.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
What if you end up channeling something or is some
entday you don't want to.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, here's the thing if I mentioned earlier. When you channel,
it's all based upon your own perceptions. It's based upon
your views of the world. It's based upon your lenses
in which you see the world and view yourself in
relationship to that world. See, when I was a child,
I didn't seem it is scary. When I was talking
to sing it was just a very firmly experience. So
(12:04):
I was very fortunate I didn't have any fripful things
like that happened to me. But as I got older,
I was able to say, now I can intentionally set
the way I want this to go about. And I'm
a positive person. You know me, you know me in
real life, so I tend to bring that to my
sessions and my views of myself and relationship to the
(12:27):
world is that I'm not a pond to it. I'm
actually a co creator. So you really have to shift
your mindset when you channel, and then you're going to
be met with that same mindset. That same type of
energy you put out is the energy you track back.
That's a really important thing. You ask me George, is
that when you channel, you must get into the space
of I'm open, I'm positive, I believe I can reach
(12:52):
the higher self. And that's why I say keep it
with your inner self, higher self, because that's the positive
experience as opposed to trying to bring in other other individuals, entities,
or beings that are out there. But you can attract
what it is you put out there and how you
view the world. Again, get yourself in that energetic state
(13:12):
that's going to bring to you that same type of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
When you channel. Karen, are you aware of what you're doing?
I mean, are you alert?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I am one hundred percent conscious channeler. So there are
things I will say in my readings for people when
I'm channeling directly just voice channeling, but I'll say I'm
hearing this. I'm going to tell you this if they
reached out to me three months later and said, you
remember saying that. I don't, because I do so many readings,
I don't remember everything I say. But when the moment
of giving it, I'm very much conscious. What it seems
(13:43):
like to me is I've just stept open, or how
it says I've opened at the door wider where I
instead of using a garden hose, I'm using like a
fire truck hose. The opening, the opening to do this
work is wide open. I get into a state relaxation
and positivity and then allow the information to flow through.
(14:05):
And I trust, I trust what I'm receiving because I've
been doing this for such a long time, over fifty
one years now and channeling off the board. Gosh, for
about he could spend about fifteen years off the board.
So I put a lot of work into this to
fine tune my own energy so I could be met
with that same type of energy came back.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Edgar Casey, the great American Sleeping Profit, was a channeler too,
wasn't He sure was, And.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
He was a channeler who was a trans medium. So
he would go into it he was unconscious, he'd go
into state, well, he'd relax. They called the sleeping Profits
for that reason. He would go into this sleeplike state
so deep with his brain waves, and he bring back information,
whether it was the Kashik record and information or reading's
first clients, or healing advice, medical advice for his clients.
(14:53):
But yeah, he was somebody who went in such a
deep state that he was not conscious in the consciousness
of being awake.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I am what does consciousness? What does consciousness mean to you? Karen?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Well, because I like to keep it really simple. I mean,
there's a lot of theories out there. They relate to
string theory, and you can get real physical, like get
into physics with it. I didn't like to keep it
very simple. And how it's explained to me from my
guide and how I like to explain it to my
clients is that consciousness is this greater matrix of energy,
(15:25):
of an energetic field that we're all that we're all
connected with them. So it's the divine. It's the flow
of the Divine flowing through all of us. And if
I could tap that spark of the divine within somebody else,
another being.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Whether it's a animal or some kind of being with awareness,
a sentient being, then I can go through that pathway
of this matrix of energetic, this energetic field and tap
into that.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Now. See, it's really interesting. Humanity has been doing this
since the birth of humanity, has been working with sentient
beings and awareness and consciousness, maybe not using those terminologies,
but they have the ability to talk to the ancestors,
which is very much what I'm talking about. So indigenous
cultures and native cultures were already doing this where they
(16:12):
were in touch with what you may call the standing
tall beans, which would be the trees or daya mother Earth,
and a lot of their mythological stories, the creation stories
were giving whether it's planet, stars, the earth, the sky,
the animals, a sense of sentients where they could tap
(16:34):
into them. And so that's a form of channeling through
the consciousness, of reaching their consciousness. So I feel like
you can do this through hitting that vibe, the vibration
or frequency that were all connected to, and I like
to call it the spark of the divine that's found
within all of us.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Tell me more about the sentient beings. What are they?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Well, there's many different loves of sentient beings. You're a
sentient beans, you have an awareness, you're alive, you can think,
you feel. We're all sentient beings. Humans are sentient beings,
Animals are sentient beings. You can even take it down
the level, like I mentioned trees. There's a lot of
studies now on vegetable life, trees and plants that say
(17:18):
they have an awareness to them. You know, there was
the old studies that were done on tomato plants where
somebody of research were walk into the room and rip
their leaves and they were attached to electrodes to be
their response, and the plants would cringe when that person
walk back in afraid that their leaves are fearing that
their leaves were going to be ripped again. So there's
(17:40):
been more and more work done around trees and plants
that they have an awareness. They send out smells to
scare away other animals, they are eating their leaves, or
they help their other saplings or trees cut down or
falls down, they reach their roots toward them. There's so
much neat research going on in science that's showing that,
you know, even trees have sentient consciousness. But I believe
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that sentient beings go even further than that. If you
can reach it, tap into it through your intentions, they're sentient.
And just because we think something's not sentient doesn't mean
it's not. So we can look at wild animals, you
can look at snakes, lizards, you can look at buffalo, fish, dolphins.
(18:23):
They all have a sentience awareness. It's a matter of
us learning to tap into them. And I find, as
I mentioned earlier, the easiest way to do that. The
direct route to do that is finding a divine spark
where source flows through them, and if I can tap that,
then I can reach into them and receive messages from them.
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