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January 19, 2025 16 mins

Guest host Lisa Garr and author Dr. Fabrizio Mancini discuss the unsettling symbiosis between the modern food industry and pharmaceutical companies.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
I am very excited about the new news about at
least we're moving in the right direction, although other countries
have been there before and before us. But banning this
red number three, hopefully the other food dies will start
to get banned. Can you talk to us a little
bit about how these types of foods and other very

(00:27):
unhealthy foods got into our food industry in the first place.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Well, you know what's interesting is that for years they
have been an association between the food industry and the
farmac industry, and many people are not aware of that association,
but those two go handing hand together. Because it seems

(00:54):
like the lobby in that we have been seeing in
this country over the years really push and allowed things
in the United States to happen when it comes to
the healthcare of Americans that we have never seen in
any other countries. And I have lived in multiple countries,
and I can tell you that it saddens me that

(01:15):
the country that I love the most, the country that
I live, we've ranked one of the worst in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Even though we spend more.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Money than any So there is a tremendous association there.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
And all I can tell you is really all.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
About the economics of healthcare and when the food industry
lobbies to be able to put this type of toxics
into our.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Food a lot of times is to be able.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
To taste better or to be a preservative means that
the food can stay in the shelf a lot longer.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
But at what cause?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And that's really the question that we need to be
asking ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
At what cause?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
And we're going to go genu to allow this to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
So the lobbying to get these preservatives in food, is
that more of a money decision?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, the main thing is that we know that in
order to sell more food, you have to make it tasty,
you have to make it attractive.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
So when the dice.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Started coming into and even though we know that there
are studies that have shown that they have been this
die especially even number three, which there's others, they have
been shown to and linked to create thyroid tumors and
love animals, and it's been banned in cosmetics since nineteen ninety.

(02:44):
But for whatever reason, even though we can't put it
in our face, they said, you know, what is okay
if we can ingest it. Oh and by the way,
you can also give it to your children and all
of the things that they love to eat, because they
looks so attracted with the red.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Color, the sweet cereals, and the candies and even my favorite.
I used to love candy corn Halloween. I loved the
candy corn. I didn't know that was red dye. That's
a bummer, but it's true because it's mostly sugar and dye.
And these types of things have been proven now to

(03:24):
not only cause obesity epidemics, but immune suppression. And of
course you've got your teeth, which is they're going to Yeah,
it's not gonna do. But and then also the links
to cancer that have been discovered decades ago, and now

(03:45):
we're finally getting this now. Why do you think now
is the time these dyes are coming out of our.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I think that the politicians and you mentioned the red
dye three one of the things that I was been
trying to talk to people about this over the years.
You know, I've been in this space. Actually this year,
I'll be thirty five years as a doctor of characterractice.
So I into the healthcare field thirty eight years ago,
and I've been in this space and as you know,

(04:15):
very passionate about it.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
And we notice also.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
One of the concerns is that we see our children
with a lot of hyperactivity and behavioral issues like anxiety depression.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
There's studies that have.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Shown that that has been linked to some of these guys.
But you ask the question why now, And I believe,
as I look at the political platforms right now, all
of a sudden, we recognize that we have a president
that is looking to disrupt many different things in the country.

(04:50):
One of those things happens to be healthcare.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
And of all the people that he could have chosen
to nominate, he chose Robber Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And one of the things that Robert has a very
long track record of doing is being able to be
an advocate for voices that feel they are not being heard.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Some of those voices have been in.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
The food industry, some of those voices have been in
the vaccine industry.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
And I believe that.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, and this, I believe is really an attempt for
some of these companies to begin to recognize that they're
going to be held a little bit more accountable than
they've ever been held before. You know, I see sometimes

(05:46):
some of the comments that I know there's a lot
of fear out there because whenever there's changed, fear drives
people to sometimes act in a way that can be
a little bit concerning. And when you look the track
records of this individual and some of his passion towards
holding companies accountable, whether it's a farmer company or the

(06:09):
food companies, there's nothing wrong with that because we have
that level of accountability in other areas in our country.
But for whatever reason, it just seems that the lobby
in the money that goes into many of these candidates
to run for elections, a big portion of that seems

(06:33):
to be coming from food companies that have a monopoly.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
You know, there's probably.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
About ten companies that manage over eighty percent of all
the foods, and they're very powerful, and many times what
they're looking for is how can we create a food.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
That makes people addictive.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And we see that not only with some of these
dials and preservatives, but also you mentioned here the sugar,
which we have been talking for years, because all of
these things are not only toxic, but they also create
a tremendous amount of inflammation in the body, which is
one of the main reasons why so many.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
People are sick today.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Inflammation is huge, and that's why so many people have
discovered the golp ones have actually helped with the inflammation
in the body, and because some of them are naturally
occurring peptides that reduce that toxicity. And I think, you know,

(07:36):
in a way, if you use them right, some of
these glp ones or the you know of zempex and
things like that, they could really change the way people
look at these unhealthy foods. Think about it. They could
put the fast food industry out of business because they

(07:58):
reduce the cravings for them. I don't know the side effects. Yeah,
they have been around long enough, but what do you
think about that.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, it's funny that you bring that up, because recently
we are seeing that there are some very creative companies
that have been doing some studies on GLP one, but
instead of injecting it in the body, which sometimes you know,
we know that some of the side effects have been

(08:27):
that you may lose a little bit of muscle mass
and you have to be doing some of the things
besides just injecting yourself. But now they're making the natural
versions of those peptides in caramels in gummings where now
those side effects are no longer part of it, and
I started taking them.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Just because you know, I'm always the first person.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
That before I ever recommend anything to anybody, I'm the
first one that will put myself through it. Whether it's
it doesn't matter what it is in the healthcare field,
or whether it's biohacking where we have all these amazing
technology that is now coming into.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
The picture, or whether it's nutrition that is coming out
like an ad and others.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
And I'm telling you, Lisa, in the last four weeks,
I have lost ten pounds and I can barely lose
any more weight because I'm already my ideal weight. But
it was one of those things that, like you mentioned,
my inflammation drop, the weight loss comes from a lot
of it by decreasing that inflammation. I mean, most of

(09:34):
our weight and the obesity and the.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Weight gain that we're seeing in our.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Citizens is primarily inflammation that is stored in the body.
And that inflammation is not only made out.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Of fat, where a lot of people focus on the
back component of it, but inflammation of the cell.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
And when you have trillions of cells in the body
and they're in place, I can promise you you're going
to gain some weight. So I am very excited for
the opportunity that people and scientists are now coming together
and beginning to recognize that there are some good things
out there, but can we find a delivery mechanism that

(10:17):
can reduce any potential side effect? And that's where I'm
very excited, especially the jailp one.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
And you know, I'm going to have some.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Gifts for everybody that is listening here, and one of
the things that I can give, I'll give anything that
I mentioned. I'm making a note to myself right here,
and if you go to my website and you'll see
there a pop up you can put your email. I'm
going to send you immediately all of the things that
I mentioned, and I'm going to send you as a
gift because my mission is to inform people. I find

(10:50):
that when people understand better not only their health but
pretty much anything in their life, they tend.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
To make better choices.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
And to me, I'll go down the key to better
being healthy Lisa today is as simple as making a
better health choice today than I did yesterday.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
And if I do that tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
And the next day and the next day, I can
assure that I'm going to be healthier as I get older,
instead of the opposite, which is what we see in
most people today.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yes, that is true, and I believe that we are
hitting that level now with hopefully getting some of the
toxins out of our foods and some of the links
to sugar and to the opioid crisis. How that has
completely taken off in the United States. What do you

(11:42):
feel that that's attributed to. Why do you think that
the opioid crisis was so huge in the US.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, it's interesting because we only make up four percent
of the world, but ninety five percent of all the
opioids are delivered right here in our country. And you know,
I've done a lot of lectures on opioids and how
to reduce that through natural means. And one of the
things that I get very concerned about is the fact

(12:10):
that in this country opioids we know, in the past
were very addictive, but then all of a sudden, we
started seeing companies that we're putting pain.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Control because it really nuns the pain. It's a blocker.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
But the problem is the addiction component of that is
what makes people get hooked to these medications, and we.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Have seen that there are entities that have created.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Medications that have created such an addiction in this country
where a lot of the people.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Have been very concerned because a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Of these opioids, unfortunately have scat effects that end up
in suicidal tendencies. And when you have a lot of
these suititle tendencies, then all of a sudden, you started
noticing that people were killing themselves. And we were tracing back,
why are people committing so much suicide in this country?

(13:18):
And we started noticing that they were a tremendous amount
of relationship between opioids and suicide. But I think that
what happens in this country is that we have been
conditioned to look at pain as the enemy. And for
many years, you know, when I go into media, I

(13:39):
tell people that pain is your friend.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
It's not your enemy. And I give the example that.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
If you have a fire alarm in your kitchen, and
that fire alarm is there because it's supposed to pick
up smoke, and that smoke may have fire behind it.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
That may burn the house down.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
So when the fire alarm goes off, it can be
very annoying. And then I press the red button and
of course, you know the studio and the audio people
are like, please, don't do that again. But I want
to make a point that that is like.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Your pain, that's your symptoms.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
The symptoms of the body is your body way of communicating, Hey,
there's something going on here.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
We need to pay attention to it.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
But the problem that we do is I take a
tape and I put it on the speaker. That's like
taking a medication or a pain killer. He covers up
the symptoms. Right, it's going to lower your pain. But
did it do anything to.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Change the smoke?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Didn't do anything to change.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
The potential fire. So the pain is only there to
give you an alarm.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
System to say, hey, there's an organ struggling here. There's
a disease that is growing that you need to aware of.
But then we ignore it. We want to numb it,
and then it gets worse. Even that small percentage of pain,
it gets so annoying that we just want to cut
it out.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
And that's where a surgery come in.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Just cut it out. If I have purple tonal syndrome,
just cut it out, cut out the nerve, if I
have any other type of pain, And that's one of
the things that we need to look at pain differently.
You know, companies like for Due Pharma marked it off.
You always like oxic coding, and you know, we seen
it on television.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
They did a.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Series on it, and by twenty twenty, the open epidemical
acclaim over five hundred thousand lies in the United States.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
This is more than most that is or stubbly fight.
You know, even though they making.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Money over all these years.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You know, it wasn't until many years later that.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
They were beginning to be held at Cannibal because of
the individuals inside the company that started showing that they
knew that some of these things were addictive.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
And I'm praying.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
And hoping that we will see in the next future
that a lot of these companies get so greedy about
making money, but at what cost.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
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