March 16, 2025 • 15 mins
Guest host Rich Berra and Bigfoot researcher Matt Moneymaker discuss studying the elusive cryptid.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The thing that I think is so curious is that
even brought up YETI earlier. I feel like this particular
phenomenon almost like dragons, they've been talked about, even though
they seem mythical, they'd been talked about and cultures all
over the world. Can you take me back to the
bigfoot thing and where it kind of started?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The bigfoot thing kind of started actually goes back, well,
it goes back thousands of years in the United States.
It would be in North America. Native Americans, tribes all
across North America had their own names for these creatures
where they're describing the same thing, different names of tall, hairy,
(00:47):
giant beings. And then all through the period of early
settlers coming to North America, there were reports of seeing
these giant tracks and then seeing these mountain devils, and
then it just continued on up to the present time.
The word bigfoot entered into the vocabulary after some tracks
(01:07):
were found in northern California, and it was a newspaper
man out of Eureka, California that kind of looked at
one of the one of the larger casts that they
got and they called that bigfoot, and then that name stuck,
and now it's kind of misinterpreted by a lot of people.
In fact, that's one of the big misconceptions about the
subject is people think we're talking about this one creature,
(01:31):
this one entity, as opposed to a population of creatures
of animals. And we know that from having from what
we've been doing for many years, that there's definitely more
than one. But still a lot of people misunderstand it
and think we're all running around looking for this one
thing that just keeps getting away from us.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, So in sasquatch, that fits in there the same way, right,
that's just another name that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Sasquatch came out of Canada. That was a Native Coast
Salish Indian word what's actually an anglicized version of their
almost unpronounceable chess queak. I mean, it's really hard to pronounce,
but it was by it was anglicized to make it
more pronounceable. But it is originally a native word, and
(02:16):
it came from Canada, and it was in use, of course,
long before the moniker bigfoot came into being, like in
the late fifties and in the sixties, and then it
was really the Patterson footage that I mean, there was
that article, people were talking about it, but it was
when the Patterson footage got around that really people became.
(02:37):
It got on people's radar screens across the country, and
then everybody knew what this idea of bigfoot was and
it started to supplant then a lot of the local
names that people have been giving them, you know, the whatever,
you know, the Lake Worth Monster and the Mountain Devils
(02:58):
and the wood Boogers. There was all sorts of local
names who I have not have heard of.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The wood Booker yet, that's a new one.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's like from in parts of Virginia.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And that's a fair would call it that. That tracks Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And then and so that Bigfoot has now become kind
of the dominant one. And what reason is functional And
that's one reason why we decided to call ourselves the
Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization and its opposed to the Sasquatch
Field Researchers Organization, is because people know how to spell
bigfoot and an let's.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Tool her on a T shirt too, quite honestly, right.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And it tends to be people tend to misspell. They
don't get the spell exactly right for sasquatch right off
the bat, so bigfoot, by being easier to spell, kind
of beat out sasquatch.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So you're in you're in college, you're looking for the
you're researching it. And is that when you go hiking
and find an actual footprint that blows your mind? When
was that around the same time?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Exactly? Well, yeah, I was in college, it was. It
was just in the process of looking for this you book.
The guy at the bookstore knew a couple of prospectors
and who had spoke seen a big they'd seen a
big foot, and I talked to both of them. I
realized they must have seen one, and it had to
be a big foot because it was about nine feet tall. Oh,
and then it took me a few months to get
(04:16):
and find somebody who could would be willing to take
me backpacking up into this very difficult to reach area
way up in the mountains of Ventura County, which is
not like the Sierras, but they're they're almost more remote
because there's fewer roads up there.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It took Black Mountain. That's not your Mount Shasta, is it. Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, No, No, Mount Shasta is in northern California, so
the mountains are only like an hour north of LA.
They're the mountains in between like La and Bakersfield.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
As you go up over the five Freeway and you
look off to the left by Pyramid Lake, you see
some high peaks over there that very often have snow
in the winter. So it was actually right there you
could see the two mountains from the fine Freeway. One
is White Mountain, one is Black Mountain. And this happened
in the canyon in between White Mountain and Black Mountain.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, so you see the footprint in what happens to
you because it had to change something inside you that
we went from because I gotta imagine the same thing
probably when people go ghost hunting that they think it's
gonna be fun, and you almost take a comical approach
to you know, the Scooby Doo approach to it. We're like,
we're gonna go on a mystery. But then when you
see something that actually connects to the realism of like, oh,
(05:26):
this is not pretend anymore. It's got to change something
about your uh, the way your blood flows through you.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
At that point, Oh yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I fell down to my knees to look at this thing,
and it was right on the trail in front of us,
and we could tell by the condition of the track,
as it was kind of wet out it had been
raining periodically that this was a very fresh track and
it was going downhill. And then we heard a sound
(05:54):
that not only had I never heard before, but I
had nobody had even even talked about it before. And
it was the sound of these wood knocks down in
the bottom of this canyon. And this place is just
so remote, and we were baffled. We were like, what
is it sounds like somebody almost chopping wood down there.
There's just loud bang, bang bang. We couldn't figure out.
(06:14):
We're like, wow, there's some hermits living way out here
in the middle of nowhere. Because we knew it's had
to have something with arms and hands to make this
loud sound. We continued going up the trail, and not
much further up, we could hear another thing further up
the canyon, maybe a quarter mile up, knocking almost in
reply to this one that was directly below us, down
(06:37):
in the canyon.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Because it's maybe warning the other one that you guys are.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
There exactly exactly, and we didn't put it. We just
didn't know what was going on at that moment. We
kind of put it together later, but once we got
up to our camp, then we heard more sounds than
that that night, like you call then we call the
owl on steroid sound, which is just this whoo. And
(07:03):
then on the table, you know, the Forest Service had
brought up on horseback pieces of a picnic table to
put it at this this dispersed campgraph. It used to
be marked on a map called Buck Creek. So here's
this wooden table and somebody had scratched into the table
help help bigfoot or yeah, they had actually like carved it,
(07:25):
not like real car but you could tell they rode
it into the table. And we're like, wow, this is
really amazing, as if somebody was up there and somebody
else had an encounter with something up there, so it
was all those things together. We looked around. We're like, okay, well,
this is the sort of place. There's nobody else around
up here, and there's deer and there's water, and if
(07:45):
you could live off the land, this is one place
you could do it.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, let's start putting some of the characteristics together of bigfoot,
i'd be so one of the things you just said
is about nine feet tall. Yeah, that's not a bear
standing on its the back legs that they're at that point.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Oh, and that's that the heighth element and just the
overall size element is such a key thing, especially for witnesses,
because that's when you know people who are like, they
don't know anything about bigfoot, but when they know when
they see one of these things, they know it can't
it couldn't have been a human because it was so big.
(08:25):
Because it was it was nine feet tall, and they
just knew right away that's not a person. That's way
bigger than it, just so off the scale for say
a person in a costume or a gilli suit. So
when you add when you witnesses who see those big ones,
especially they see them up close, you put it, you say,
are you sure it couldn't have been a person? They'll
just laugh at you like there's just no way. I mean,
(08:48):
these thing was nine feet tall, weighed well over five
hundred pounds, four feet wide. I mean just you know,
probably weighed about as much as a cow. You know,
that's how that's how massive they are.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And you think they'd be you think they'd be easier
to spot, but I gotta imagine one of the characteristics
is they do not want to be found by humans.
They might be fine with nature, but they don't want
to be on camera. They seem like they can elude
those things, and you would maybe know better than anybody else,
better than anything they can elude.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh yeah, the research the easy way I mean for
them to do. You gotta understand their environment is trees
and brush, and they don't expose themselves, especially if they
think there's people around in daylight. They're very careful and
conscious about exposing themselves and being out away from the
trees and brush. They won't do it. But so they're
(09:43):
a lot more mobile when they're going from place to place,
they're moving a long distance. They'll do so after dark. Especially,
they'll do it late, as if they're aware that there's
this time frame at night when humans are just not
active and like the woods belong to them. They can
cross over and come out of the woods and crossover
(10:04):
roads and highways so there's no cars coming or very
few cars, and they're again very intelligent, and they'll be
back undercover by by the time it gets light, So
being nocturnal and being intelligent and sticking to areas where
it's lots of cover, that's how they can be that
big and only be seen occasionally.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, tie this, tie this together for me. Do you
feel like in your research that the bigfoots or the
sasquatch know as much about human behavior as we know
about them Because we don't know a lot about them, We.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Don't know a lot about it. I think from observation,
they know a lot about how we operate in their environments.
They know that, you know, it gets late at night,
people go to bed and go to sleep intents. They
know that people generally are not walking around in the
woods without lights on. They know we're kind of dependent
(11:00):
on lights. And when we do the expeditions that we've
been doing them a long time, we take advantage of
the fact that they're not expecting people to be out
in the woods with no lights on. And that's kind
of how we do That's how we get these things
to come around. We go out at night in places
where they're around, no lights on, and we imitate the
sounds that they make, and that's what brings them around.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, so when you you start doing this research. How
does that turn into a TV show for you? For
the Finding Bigfoot show? How do you get a whole
network to go, Sure, we'll give you some money, go
out and try to find Bigfoot.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It doesn't seem like that.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's one of those things like UFOs, like, sure you
want to hear about them, but there's nobody gets pictures
of them. So you have to assume that you're not
going to get video of Bigfoot, even though that's that's
the actual goal. How do you sell that show?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well, they came looking for us. I mean, it's also
take it. The website had been popular by the late nineties.
The BFROL website is it's still the biggest, the best
website on the subject, continually updated, and I was getting
contacted by TV producers not long after the site started
(12:17):
and started getting attention because they wanted help with getting
witnesses and experts for their shows, and so I was
helping out almost like a technical expert. And then finally
I hooked up with Doug Hicheck, the guy who eventually
did Monster Quest, and he wanted to do a show
where I helped him out kind of as a co producer.
Come getting it together and I was kind of a
(12:39):
co star with their lead person, and a lot of
people don't remember that series. That was called Mysterious Encounters,
and he was on a network that doesn't exist anymore
called Outdoor Life Network OLN AND which was famous for
running the Tour de France races every year, and then
later they did a lot of they were famous for
the bull running. They had this show. That show was popular,
(13:03):
and it was that show. During that show, people were
saying asking us, saying, hey, listen, we want to come on,
like can we pay to come on expeditions with you guys?
And then I started asking like, like, you know, we
really want to come on expeditions with us, like how
much would you pay? Et cetera, et cetera. And then
when they were saying what they would do, and realizing
(13:23):
there was a lot of people who would do that,
I thought, you know, why don't we allow them to
do that? And so it was after Mysterious Encounters people
we had these started doing these expeditions all around the country.
We tried to keep it as cheap as possible for people,
enough so that like the local organizers where at least
they weren't going out of pocket. Running them. And then
(13:45):
we heard that Animal Planet was looking to do a
show on the subject, and they eventually heard about us,
and finally their talent scout came down and interviewed me
in southern California with several members of the group, and
so what that wasn't our first You know, we weren't
(14:07):
trying really to get a TV show, But when we
heard that a TV show wanted to do something, especially
an Anni Planet, we thought, you know, really, you'd be
wrong if they went with anybody else, because we have
so much more experience. We actually go out and do stuff.
And then they figured their conundrum was at first their
tussle and it went on for about a year, is
(14:28):
they didn't know whether there was enough content there to
keep it for it to last. They thought, okay, what
we're gonna go out, We're going to look for Bigfoot.
We're not going to find it, and then where do
we go from there? And I had to explain it, said, listen,
there's thousands of eyewitnesses across the country, and we could
if nothing else, we can visit those places. We could
(14:49):
talk to those people about what they saw. You could
do recreations. And I showed them aren't. I showed Discovery,
which is the parent network for an whole plan. I
let them see our internal database with the thousands of
reports with contact information for the witnesses, and then they
(15:09):
knew that, Okay, they have a series. If they did that,
then there would there wasn't. They weren't going to run
out of content anytime soon.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
The thing that I think is so curious is that
even brought up YETI earlier. I feel like this particular
phenomenon almost like dragons, they've been talked about, even though
they seem mythical, they'd been talked about and cultures all
over the world. Can you take me back to the
bigfoot thing and where it kind of started?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
The bigfoot thing kind of started actually goes back, well,
it goes back thousands of years in the United States.
It would be in North America. Native Americans, tribes all
across North America had their own names for these creatures
where they're describing the same thing, different names of tall, hairy,
(00:47):
giant beings. And then all through the period of early
settlers coming to North America, there were reports of seeing
these giant tracks and then seeing these mountain devils, and
then it just continued on up to the present time.
The word bigfoot entered into the vocabulary after some tracks
(01:07):
were found in northern California, and it was a newspaper
man out of Eureka, California that kind of looked at
one of the one of the larger casts that they
got and they called that bigfoot, and then that name stuck,
and now it's kind of misinterpreted by a lot of people.
In fact, that's one of the big misconceptions about the
subject is people think we're talking about this one creature,
(01:31):
this one entity, as opposed to a population of creatures
of animals. And we know that from having from what
we've been doing for many years, that there's definitely more
than one. But still a lot of people misunderstand it
and think we're all running around looking for this one
thing that just keeps getting away from us.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, So in sasquatch, that fits in there the same way, right,
that's just another name that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Sasquatch came out of Canada. That was a Native Coast
Salish Indian word what's actually an anglicized version of their
almost unpronounceable chess queak. I mean, it's really hard to pronounce,
but it was by it was anglicized to make it
more pronounceable. But it is originally a native word, and
(02:16):
it came from Canada, and it was in use, of course,
long before the moniker bigfoot came into being, like in
the late fifties and in the sixties, and then it
was really the Patterson footage that I mean, there was
that article, people were talking about it, but it was
when the Patterson footage got around that really people became.
(02:37):
It got on people's radar screens across the country, and
then everybody knew what this idea of bigfoot was and
it started to supplant then a lot of the local
names that people have been giving them, you know, the whatever,
you know, the Lake Worth Monster and the Mountain Devils
(02:58):
and the wood Boogers. There was all sorts of local
names who I have not have heard of.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The wood Booker yet, that's a new one.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's like from in parts of Virginia.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And that's a fair would call it that. That tracks Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And then and so that Bigfoot has now become kind
of the dominant one. And what reason is functional And
that's one reason why we decided to call ourselves the
Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization and its opposed to the Sasquatch
Field Researchers Organization, is because people know how to spell
bigfoot and an let's.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Tool her on a T shirt too, quite honestly, right.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And it tends to be people tend to misspell. They
don't get the spell exactly right for sasquatch right off
the bat, so bigfoot, by being easier to spell, kind
of beat out sasquatch.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So you're in you're in college, you're looking for the
you're researching it. And is that when you go hiking
and find an actual footprint that blows your mind? When
was that around the same time?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Exactly? Well, yeah, I was in college, it was. It
was just in the process of looking for this you book.
The guy at the bookstore knew a couple of prospectors
and who had spoke seen a big they'd seen a
big foot, and I talked to both of them. I
realized they must have seen one, and it had to
be a big foot because it was about nine feet tall. Oh,
and then it took me a few months to get
(04:16):
and find somebody who could would be willing to take
me backpacking up into this very difficult to reach area
way up in the mountains of Ventura County, which is
not like the Sierras, but they're they're almost more remote
because there's fewer roads up there.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It took Black Mountain. That's not your Mount Shasta, is it. Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, No, No, Mount Shasta is in northern California, so
the mountains are only like an hour north of LA.
They're the mountains in between like La and Bakersfield.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
As you go up over the five Freeway and you
look off to the left by Pyramid Lake, you see
some high peaks over there that very often have snow
in the winter. So it was actually right there you
could see the two mountains from the fine Freeway. One
is White Mountain, one is Black Mountain. And this happened
in the canyon in between White Mountain and Black Mountain.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Okay, so you see the footprint in what happens to
you because it had to change something inside you that
we went from because I gotta imagine the same thing
probably when people go ghost hunting that they think it's
gonna be fun, and you almost take a comical approach
to you know, the Scooby Doo approach to it. We're like,
we're gonna go on a mystery. But then when you
see something that actually connects to the realism of like, oh,
(05:26):
this is not pretend anymore. It's got to change something
about your uh, the way your blood flows through you.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
At that point, Oh yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I fell down to my knees to look at this thing,
and it was right on the trail in front of us,
and we could tell by the condition of the track,
as it was kind of wet out it had been
raining periodically that this was a very fresh track and
it was going downhill. And then we heard a sound
(05:54):
that not only had I never heard before, but I
had nobody had even even talked about it before. And
it was the sound of these wood knocks down in
the bottom of this canyon. And this place is just
so remote, and we were baffled. We were like, what
is it sounds like somebody almost chopping wood down there.
There's just loud bang, bang bang. We couldn't figure out.
(06:14):
We're like, wow, there's some hermits living way out here
in the middle of nowhere. Because we knew it's had
to have something with arms and hands to make this
loud sound. We continued going up the trail, and not
much further up, we could hear another thing further up
the canyon, maybe a quarter mile up, knocking almost in
reply to this one that was directly below us, down
(06:37):
in the canyon.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Because it's maybe warning the other one that you guys are.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
There exactly exactly, and we didn't put it. We just
didn't know what was going on at that moment. We
kind of put it together later, but once we got
up to our camp, then we heard more sounds than
that that night, like you call then we call the
owl on steroid sound, which is just this whoo. And
(07:03):
then on the table, you know, the Forest Service had
brought up on horseback pieces of a picnic table to
put it at this this dispersed campgraph. It used to
be marked on a map called Buck Creek. So here's
this wooden table and somebody had scratched into the table
help help bigfoot or yeah, they had actually like carved it,
(07:25):
not like real car but you could tell they rode
it into the table. And we're like, wow, this is
really amazing, as if somebody was up there and somebody
else had an encounter with something up there, so it
was all those things together. We looked around. We're like, okay, well,
this is the sort of place. There's nobody else around
up here, and there's deer and there's water, and if
(07:45):
you could live off the land, this is one place
you could do it.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, let's start putting some of the characteristics together of bigfoot,
i'd be so one of the things you just said
is about nine feet tall. Yeah, that's not a bear
standing on its the back legs that they're at that point.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Oh, and that's that the heighth element and just the
overall size element is such a key thing, especially for witnesses,
because that's when you know people who are like, they
don't know anything about bigfoot, but when they know when
they see one of these things, they know it can't
it couldn't have been a human because it was so big.
(08:25):
Because it was it was nine feet tall, and they
just knew right away that's not a person. That's way
bigger than it, just so off the scale for say
a person in a costume or a gilli suit. So
when you add when you witnesses who see those big ones,
especially they see them up close, you put it, you say,
are you sure it couldn't have been a person? They'll
just laugh at you like there's just no way. I mean,
(08:48):
these thing was nine feet tall, weighed well over five
hundred pounds, four feet wide. I mean just you know,
probably weighed about as much as a cow. You know,
that's how that's how massive they are.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And you think they'd be you think they'd be easier
to spot, but I gotta imagine one of the characteristics
is they do not want to be found by humans.
They might be fine with nature, but they don't want
to be on camera. They seem like they can elude
those things, and you would maybe know better than anybody else,
better than anything they can elude.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh yeah, the research the easy way I mean for
them to do. You gotta understand their environment is trees
and brush, and they don't expose themselves, especially if they
think there's people around in daylight. They're very careful and
conscious about exposing themselves and being out away from the
trees and brush. They won't do it. But so they're
(09:43):
a lot more mobile when they're going from place to place,
they're moving a long distance. They'll do so after dark. Especially,
they'll do it late, as if they're aware that there's
this time frame at night when humans are just not
active and like the woods belong to them. They can
cross over and come out of the woods and crossover
(10:04):
roads and highways so there's no cars coming or very
few cars, and they're again very intelligent, and they'll be
back undercover by by the time it gets light, So
being nocturnal and being intelligent and sticking to areas where
it's lots of cover, that's how they can be that
big and only be seen occasionally.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, tie this, tie this together for me. Do you
feel like in your research that the bigfoots or the
sasquatch know as much about human behavior as we know
about them Because we don't know a lot about them, We.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Don't know a lot about it. I think from observation,
they know a lot about how we operate in their environments.
They know that, you know, it gets late at night,
people go to bed and go to sleep intents. They
know that people generally are not walking around in the
woods without lights on. They know we're kind of dependent
(11:00):
on lights. And when we do the expeditions that we've
been doing them a long time, we take advantage of
the fact that they're not expecting people to be out
in the woods with no lights on. And that's kind
of how we do That's how we get these things
to come around. We go out at night in places
where they're around, no lights on, and we imitate the
sounds that they make, and that's what brings them around.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, so when you you start doing this research. How
does that turn into a TV show for you? For
the Finding Bigfoot show? How do you get a whole
network to go, Sure, we'll give you some money, go
out and try to find Bigfoot.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It doesn't seem like that.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's one of those things like UFOs, like, sure you
want to hear about them, but there's nobody gets pictures
of them. So you have to assume that you're not
going to get video of Bigfoot, even though that's that's
the actual goal. How do you sell that show?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well, they came looking for us. I mean, it's also
take it. The website had been popular by the late nineties.
The BFROL website is it's still the biggest, the best
website on the subject, continually updated, and I was getting
contacted by TV producers not long after the site started
(12:17):
and started getting attention because they wanted help with getting
witnesses and experts for their shows, and so I was
helping out almost like a technical expert. And then finally
I hooked up with Doug Hicheck, the guy who eventually
did Monster Quest, and he wanted to do a show
where I helped him out kind of as a co producer.
Come getting it together and I was kind of a
(12:39):
co star with their lead person, and a lot of
people don't remember that series. That was called Mysterious Encounters,
and he was on a network that doesn't exist anymore
called Outdoor Life Network OLN AND which was famous for
running the Tour de France races every year, and then
later they did a lot of they were famous for
the bull running. They had this show. That show was popular,
(13:03):
and it was that show. During that show, people were
saying asking us, saying, hey, listen, we want to come on,
like can we pay to come on expeditions with you guys?
And then I started asking like, like, you know, we
really want to come on expeditions with us, like how
much would you pay? Et cetera, et cetera. And then
when they were saying what they would do, and realizing
(13:23):
there was a lot of people who would do that,
I thought, you know, why don't we allow them to
do that? And so it was after Mysterious Encounters people
we had these started doing these expeditions all around the country.
We tried to keep it as cheap as possible for people,
enough so that like the local organizers where at least
they weren't going out of pocket. Running them. And then
(13:45):
we heard that Animal Planet was looking to do a
show on the subject, and they eventually heard about us,
and finally their talent scout came down and interviewed me
in southern California with several members of the group, and
so what that wasn't our first You know, we weren't
(14:07):
trying really to get a TV show, But when we
heard that a TV show wanted to do something, especially
an Anni Planet, we thought, you know, really, you'd be
wrong if they went with anybody else, because we have
so much more experience. We actually go out and do stuff.
And then they figured their conundrum was at first their
tussle and it went on for about a year, is
(14:28):
they didn't know whether there was enough content there to
keep it for it to last. They thought, okay, what
we're gonna go out, We're going to look for Bigfoot.
We're not going to find it, and then where do
we go from there? And I had to explain it, said, listen,
there's thousands of eyewitnesses across the country, and we could
if nothing else, we can visit those places. We could
(14:49):
talk to those people about what they saw. You could
do recreations. And I showed them aren't. I showed Discovery,
which is the parent network for an whole plan. I
let them see our internal database with the thousands of
reports with contact information for the witnesses, and then they
(15:09):
knew that, Okay, they have a series. If they did that,
then there would there wasn't. They weren't going to run
out of content anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
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