March 19, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and author Paul Wallis explore evidence of alien visitation to Earth uncovered at ancient archeological sites, artifacts discovered in Turkey that could prove extraterrestrial contact after Noah's flood, and how Norse mythology of gods may actually be stories of aliens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,
Paul Wallace back with us. An author whose books probe
of the world's narratives for their insight into human origins
and human potential. Paul served for thirty three years as
a church doctor, a theological educator and an archdeacon in
the England and church in Australia. Paul, welcome back. Have
(00:26):
you been good?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ay, George, It's great to be with you once again.
How are you going?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You too?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And how's the Invasion of Eden doing?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The Invasion of Eden has been phenomenal, And since writing that,
I have a new book out. It's day three of
its release. And that's the Eden enigma. And the question
that asks is do ancient carvings in the mountains of
Turkey carry memories of et contact from the dawn of civilization?
And so we've got ancient and modern covered by both
(00:56):
those books.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
How do you find these great spots to write his
books about.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's almost as if the book rights itself once I
set out knowing that another book is forming all these
interesting synchronousities, coincidences, I meet people, people contact me, and
then just in my travel schedule, I realize I'm in
another place where the folklore tells a story of ancient contact.
(01:25):
And it is almost as if the series writes itself,
as I travel the.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
World, well tell us how you got interested in this
subject matter.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It probably goes back to when I was eleven years
old and my mum and dad read Charoits of the
Gods by Eric Vondanakin, and they left a copy lying
around the house and I read it at eleven years old,
and I reckoned. Eric von Danakin had put his finger
on some really key questions, and I wasn't satisfied with
the answers I was getting from church or mainstream scientific
(01:59):
explanations to where we all came from. So that got
my curiosity going. And then my mum got me a
book called The Atlas of World Mysteries, edited by Francis Hitching,
and that looked at people like the Lakowski, the question
of how the pyramids were built, cryptids, and all these
unresolved questions from around the world. And so I realized
(02:20):
my parents were really good at stoking my curiosity. And
these questions sort of sat with me through all the
decades until I had the time about a decade ago
to sit down and do my own research into Bible translation. Actually,
and all these old topics that had my curiosity through
the years crept up to the surface as I got
(02:43):
into the root meanings of keywords in those old texts.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What made you decide to hone in on Turkey?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Turkey was one of those lovely coincidences. I was there
with Matt Lacroix doing the scouting for a movie that
Matt is putting together. In fact, we're filming this year.
We're going to Peruin, Bolivia next month, and then back
to Turkey in October to film, and we were there.
Matt is really interested in the timeline for humanity, and
(03:12):
so we're looking at artifacts and ancient sites that speak
to that question. But while I was in Turkey, I
was really intrigued by the ancient kunair form inscriptions left
behind by this Bronze Age civilization, the Urtian people, and
the carvings and symbols that left behind at their sacred sites.
(03:33):
That really drew me in, and I wanted to understand
what were the stories the Uratian people told three thousand
years ago, what was their understanding of where we came from,
how we've survived, how we've thrived. And it was getting
into decoding those symbols that led to my new book,
that Eden Enigma, and I've called it Enigma because it
(03:56):
really is all about breaking these ancient codes and working
out what was our ancestors knew that we don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
How much did they know bare.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think they were a lot cleverer than we give
them credit for. I think we keep discovering things from
the deep past that tell us that human beings have
always been smart, They've always been clever. And the stories
that the Urateans tell, I think it's quite a sophisticated
understanding of the ecosystem, planetary history are place in the cosmos,
(04:30):
and they tell stories that we in the modern age
have largely forgotten and are having to rediscover.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now. Does gobecley Tepe is that included in this.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, we didn't actually go to gobecley Tepe on that
particular tour, but in the Eden Enigma I do go
further afield to a site that is the same age
as gobecley Tepe and in fact goes back another four
thousand years and that's over the border into modern Armenia,
and it's a site called Carajunj And it turns out
(05:04):
that this is an ancient space observatory, that it was
rebuilt around the same time that gebecule Tepe was being buried,
and archaeologists today believed that, in fact, it was originally
built as an observatory about twelve thousand years ago. So
that takes us well into the last Ice Age and
(05:27):
possibly to a culture that predates the last Ice Age,
and they were very interested in observing the region of
space we identify as the Signus constellation. So we're getting
back into an understanding of the cosmos that is twelve
thousand years old and asking why were they so interested
in that region of space.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So you're convinced, Paul, we had visitors a long, long
time ago.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I've come to that conclusion because not only have I
found it through my work in Bible trans getting to
the root meanings of the keywords of the Hebrew texts,
but the stories of contact that I find there echo
in cultures all around the world. You can go to Nigeria,
you can listen to the Norse stories, the Vedic stories,
(06:15):
Filipinos stories. You can listen to the Mayan stories from
out of Guatemala and they all share very similar stories.
Listen to the indigenous stories from out of Aboriginal Australia
Native America. They all have these stories in which their
ancestors had a moment where their survival was hanging in
(06:35):
the balance, and they talk about mysterious others coming and
helping them to survive and re establish agriculture. And that
is the story the Rachin people tell as well, and
there are specific details in it that hint that these
advanced visitors really were extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well with Paul Wallace's laterst spoke is called the eden Enigma.
Paul tell us about these codes, how did you decode them?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, A big part is to notice that some of
these symbols echo in other cultures around the world. So
we've got, for instance, in Armenia, a blue sky full
of shields, and now they're in the sky, so clearly
they are flying shields. I just happen to know, through
having studied Latin at school, that the Roman historian Livy
(07:27):
spoke about flying shields attending various Roman military engagements. And
then around seven to seventy five of the Common Era.
In the Frankish Annals we hear about a battle of
Charlemagne in which flying shields turn up there. So you
begin to see the connections and it helps you understand
(07:48):
what you're looking at. I mean, is it a circle?
Is it a flower? Is it a star? But the
stories alongside each other and it becomes clear you're looking
at flying shields. Decorate with a floral motif. Now most
archaeologists will say their shields, but they don't put the
two and two together and ask why are they in
(08:09):
the sky? Why are they flying? And then another motif
is flying discs, where the disc has a person inside it,
and in the for instance, in the ancient Assyrian portrayal
of flying discs, you have a disc with a person
and then the disc has wings to show that it's flying.
And this runs in parallel with discs. You can find
(08:32):
in Iceland and Scandinavia flying discs with people inside them
shown up in the sky. So it's once you take
these stories out of their bubble, see them as part
of an international canon of art, you begin to see
the connections and realize this is about flight technology, this
(08:52):
is about interdimensional contact people with wings again, suggest people
with flight technology. And so that's really what I did.
I went to the symbols, and I looked at the
global lexicon of symbols and asked what stories have these
been used to tell in other places? And began to
connect the darts.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I can understand the objects with entities within them, but
what would the flying shields represent?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well, if you look at an Ortian shield, it's circular,
and you put a profile on, and you're looking at
a disc with a raised section and then another raised
section in the middle. In other words, you're looking at
the contours of a flying saucer.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And so the Oratians are simply making a reference to
something known to describe something unknown. We say a flying saucer,
they said flying shields. But it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Interesting. Take Now, what do the Vikings have to do
with some of these discoveries.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, I was introduced to the connection by my friend
David Lovegrove, who has a channel called Viking Superpowers, and
he has been deep into the work of Snottish Sturluson
Now he was the post Viking chieftain who, writing in
the twelve hundreds, gave us all the stories of the
Norse gods that we know about Thor and Odin. And
(10:15):
he was a historian, and he pointed to real world
evidence that indicated a significant migration from ancient Armenia, which
includes modern day Armenia and Turkey, a migration of Odin
and families with him coming from there into Northwest Europe,
into Scandinavia, into Iceland, and bringing their technology with them.
(10:40):
He identified them the Iceer, as he called them, as
advanced people with technology that was head and shoulders above
what they were finding in Northwest Europe and Scandinavia, so
they were able to take those lands with ease. Snolish.
Sturluson said, you can see the evidence of the migration
in our language. The language we speak in Scandinavia today
(11:05):
is clearly descended from the language of asaland what we
would call ancient Armenia. And so he believed some of
these stories, not all of them, but certainly the Odin
stories were real history about a real migration, and that
there was in ancient Armenia a group of people who
(11:25):
had made great leaps forward in agriculture and other technology
and militarily. And he saw the evidence for that migration
in the real world.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Would you say ancient Turkey might have been the cradle
of civilization.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, there are so many ancient narrative traditions that say
exactly that. So in the Bible, for instance, Genesis points
to Ararat in ancient Armenia and says that's where Noah's
arc landed, and out of that arc, five family bloodlines
of re populated the world or the world of that region.
(12:03):
Noah planted the first vineyard, they got agriculture going again,
they got farming going again. So the Bible points there,
but also the Babylonian story of Zusudra points there. They
say that his arc landed on Ararat. If we go
into the Book of Ezekiel in the Bible, the writer
(12:23):
Ezekiel says that the garden of the powerful Ones, which
was really the seed bed of civilization, was in the
high country of the powerful Ones that ur or Uratu
or in the Hebrew spelling Ararat. So they're pointing there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
We have the.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Armenian historian Moses Karazzi, writing in the four hundreds, who says, yes,
humanity was rebooted here, and he points to their great progenitor, Flake,
who was the descendant of Jaffith, who was the son
of Noah, so that story repeats there. So there are
many vectors pointing here. Ancient Greek and Roman historians pointed
(13:06):
to ancient Armenia and they said, this is where humanity
made a great leap forward into the Iron Age, and
so technology received a massive reboot there. So when I
went to Turkey, I was fully expecting to find references
to this great reboot. But what surprised me was how
much detail was in the Bronze Age story left behind
(13:27):
by the Urtians.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Paul, though, what would you say in Turkey in terms
of discoveries, was one of the most dramatic or impressive
things that you're uncovered.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I think one of the symbols really became a key
for me, and it was the symbol of these winged
advance beings whom the Urtians called tingiered, and instead of
telling amazing stories about how they could fly or travel
through space, the symbol that's left behind shows doing something
(14:00):
that initially looks really mundane, but it turns out to
be the key to civilization. And what they're doing is
hand pollinating plants, and that implies that there's been a
catastrophic shift in the ecosphere. That means the Urtians can't
get plants to grow or fruit or to create harvests,
(14:24):
and so they're going to have to hand pollinate, cross pollinate,
bring plants from other regions, and create strains that can
thrive in the new situation. And that's the detailed story
that's told there that really took me by surprise. The
other thing that surprised me was there is evidence that
the Uratians were using e fields, running water over dense
(14:48):
magnetic rock to create electronic and electrical magnetic fields to
affect our state of consciousness, and then creating light phenomena
to affect our state of consciousnes business, and then having
a chalice with a potion in it, which archaeologists refer
to as a libation offering, again to affect our state
(15:09):
of consciousness. Because the Iranians they did all these things
hoping that they would achieve contact experiences with the Tingier,
who would help their ancestors in the deep past. And
that was a revelation to me.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
What do you think was one of the most impressive
aspects of this to make you believe about the extraterrestrial
life here.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I think it was seeing these stories in context, being
able to compare them with what we find in what
is now Iran ancient Assyria and realize they're telling the
same story of advanced beings with flight technology, teaching hand pollination.
It's such an unlikely story that when you see it
(15:59):
repeating from culture to culture, that really grabs my attention.
And there are other artifacts that tell you that stories
of cataclysm and recovery are relating to something real. In Cappadocia,
in Turkey, you've got a great network of underground cities
which really seem to confirm the ancient Persian story of
(16:20):
jamshid Yama, which again is cataclysm and recovery. So it
just blew me away how many times this story repeated
in all kinds of different ways, with all kinds of evidences.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Do they say where they came from?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I think the hint is from the region of space
we would identify by the Sickness constellation. Now around the world,
I hear so many wonderful stories about helpers coming from
the Pleiades. I was sort of thinking and hoping I
might find another of those stories in Turkey, But the
Otheratians and their predecessors were actually focused on another region
(17:00):
of space, and that's the Swan constellation or sickness.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Now you talk about pine cones and buckets and handbags,
what are these?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, this is something that's fascinated people for a long
time because we see these motifs all around the world,
these interesting beings. Often they have wings. Often they have
very prominent calf muscles. Sometimes they have bird heads. But
so many of them are carrying a pine cone, or
sometimes it's a leaf or a feather. And then this
(17:34):
handbag or this bucket. And when we look at what
the Assyrians and the Ourtians carved, theirs are very definitely buckets,
and theirs are very definitely pine cones. And we know
what the Assyrians call them. The bucket is a bandoodoo
or a dalu, and we've actually recovered some of these
(17:54):
ancient buckets, and the pine cone is a malilu. And
in later ages they use these for purification rituals. But
the carvings and the paintings left behind tell us this
was equipment used in pollinating and cross pollinating plants. And
(18:14):
I think in a later stage the pine cone and
the bucket became a symbol for all the help that
these advanced others gave. It may even be a code
for cognitive improvements and technological advancements. But in the beginning,
if we look at Yerevan and the paintings left behind
there in Armenia, if we look at the carvings from
(18:37):
the palace of Ashur Nasipala second in ancient Assyria, there
the images are very clear. These are tools used in
agriculture for cross pollination.
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you,
Paul Wallace back with us. An author whose books probe
of the world's narratives for their insight into human origins
and human potential. Paul served for thirty three years as
a church doctor, a theological educator and an archdeacon in
the England and church in Australia. Paul, welcome back. Have
(00:26):
you been good?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ay, George, It's great to be with you once again.
How are you going?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You too?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
And how's the Invasion of Eden doing?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
The Invasion of Eden has been phenomenal, And since writing that,
I have a new book out. It's day three of
its release. And that's the Eden enigma. And the question
that asks is do ancient carvings in the mountains of
Turkey carry memories of et contact from the dawn of civilization?
And so we've got ancient and modern covered by both
(00:56):
those books.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
How do you find these great spots to write his
books about.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's almost as if the book rights itself once I
set out knowing that another book is forming all these
interesting synchronousities, coincidences, I meet people, people contact me, and
then just in my travel schedule, I realize I'm in
another place where the folklore tells a story of ancient contact.
(01:25):
And it is almost as if the series writes itself,
as I travel the.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
World, well tell us how you got interested in this
subject matter.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It probably goes back to when I was eleven years
old and my mum and dad read Charoits of the
Gods by Eric Vondanakin, and they left a copy lying
around the house and I read it at eleven years old,
and I reckoned. Eric von Danakin had put his finger
on some really key questions, and I wasn't satisfied with
the answers I was getting from church or mainstream scientific
(01:59):
explanations to where we all came from. So that got
my curiosity going. And then my mum got me a
book called The Atlas of World Mysteries, edited by Francis Hitching,
and that looked at people like the Lakowski, the question
of how the pyramids were built, cryptids, and all these
unresolved questions from around the world. And so I realized
(02:20):
my parents were really good at stoking my curiosity. And
these questions sort of sat with me through all the
decades until I had the time about a decade ago
to sit down and do my own research into Bible translation. Actually,
and all these old topics that had my curiosity through
the years crept up to the surface as I got
(02:43):
into the root meanings of keywords in those old texts.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What made you decide to hone in on Turkey?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Turkey was one of those lovely coincidences. I was there
with Matt Lacroix doing the scouting for a movie that
Matt is putting together. In fact, we're filming this year.
We're going to Peruin, Bolivia next month, and then back
to Turkey in October to film, and we were there.
Matt is really interested in the timeline for humanity, and
(03:12):
so we're looking at artifacts and ancient sites that speak
to that question. But while I was in Turkey, I
was really intrigued by the ancient kunair form inscriptions left
behind by this Bronze Age civilization, the Urtian people, and
the carvings and symbols that left behind at their sacred sites.
(03:33):
That really drew me in, and I wanted to understand
what were the stories the Uratian people told three thousand
years ago, what was their understanding of where we came from,
how we've survived, how we've thrived. And it was getting
into decoding those symbols that led to my new book,
that Eden Enigma, and I've called it Enigma because it
(03:56):
really is all about breaking these ancient codes and working
out what was our ancestors knew that we don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
How much did they know bare.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think they were a lot cleverer than we give
them credit for. I think we keep discovering things from
the deep past that tell us that human beings have
always been smart, They've always been clever. And the stories
that the Urateans tell, I think it's quite a sophisticated
understanding of the ecosystem, planetary history are place in the cosmos,
(04:30):
and they tell stories that we in the modern age
have largely forgotten and are having to rediscover.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Now. Does gobecley Tepe is that included in this.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well, we didn't actually go to gobecley Tepe on that
particular tour, but in the Eden Enigma I do go
further afield to a site that is the same age
as gobecley Tepe and in fact goes back another four
thousand years and that's over the border into modern Armenia,
and it's a site called Carajunj And it turns out
(05:04):
that this is an ancient space observatory, that it was
rebuilt around the same time that gebecule Tepe was being buried,
and archaeologists today believed that, in fact, it was originally
built as an observatory about twelve thousand years ago. So
that takes us well into the last Ice Age and
(05:27):
possibly to a culture that predates the last Ice Age,
and they were very interested in observing the region of
space we identify as the Signus constellation. So we're getting
back into an understanding of the cosmos that is twelve
thousand years old and asking why were they so interested
in that region of space.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So you're convinced, Paul, we had visitors a long, long
time ago.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I've come to that conclusion because not only have I
found it through my work in Bible trans getting to
the root meanings of the keywords of the Hebrew texts,
but the stories of contact that I find there echo
in cultures all around the world. You can go to Nigeria,
you can listen to the Norse stories, the Vedic stories,
(06:15):
Filipinos stories. You can listen to the Mayan stories from
out of Guatemala and they all share very similar stories.
Listen to the indigenous stories from out of Aboriginal Australia
Native America. They all have these stories in which their
ancestors had a moment where their survival was hanging in
(06:35):
the balance, and they talk about mysterious others coming and
helping them to survive and re establish agriculture. And that
is the story the Rachin people tell as well, and
there are specific details in it that hint that these
advanced visitors really were extraterrestrials.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well with Paul Wallace's laterst spoke is called the eden Enigma.
Paul tell us about these codes, how did you decode them?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well, A big part is to notice that some of
these symbols echo in other cultures around the world. So
we've got, for instance, in Armenia, a blue sky full
of shields, and now they're in the sky, so clearly
they are flying shields. I just happen to know, through
having studied Latin at school, that the Roman historian Livy
(07:27):
spoke about flying shields attending various Roman military engagements. And
then around seven to seventy five of the Common Era.
In the Frankish Annals we hear about a battle of
Charlemagne in which flying shields turn up there. So you
begin to see the connections and it helps you understand
(07:48):
what you're looking at. I mean, is it a circle?
Is it a flower? Is it a star? But the
stories alongside each other and it becomes clear you're looking
at flying shields. Decorate with a floral motif. Now most
archaeologists will say their shields, but they don't put the
two and two together and ask why are they in
(08:09):
the sky? Why are they flying? And then another motif
is flying discs, where the disc has a person inside it,
and in the for instance, in the ancient Assyrian portrayal
of flying discs, you have a disc with a person
and then the disc has wings to show that it's flying.
And this runs in parallel with discs. You can find
(08:32):
in Iceland and Scandinavia flying discs with people inside them
shown up in the sky. So it's once you take
these stories out of their bubble, see them as part
of an international canon of art, you begin to see
the connections and realize this is about flight technology, this
(08:52):
is about interdimensional contact people with wings again, suggest people
with flight technology. And so that's really what I did.
I went to the symbols, and I looked at the
global lexicon of symbols and asked what stories have these
been used to tell in other places? And began to
connect the darts.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I can understand the objects with entities within them, but
what would the flying shields represent?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well, if you look at an Ortian shield, it's circular,
and you put a profile on, and you're looking at
a disc with a raised section and then another raised
section in the middle. In other words, you're looking at
the contours of a flying saucer.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And so the Oratians are simply making a reference to
something known to describe something unknown. We say a flying saucer,
they said flying shields. But it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Interesting. Take Now, what do the Vikings have to do
with some of these discoveries.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Well, I was introduced to the connection by my friend
David Lovegrove, who has a channel called Viking Superpowers, and
he has been deep into the work of Snottish Sturluson
Now he was the post Viking chieftain who, writing in
the twelve hundreds, gave us all the stories of the
Norse gods that we know about Thor and Odin. And
(10:15):
he was a historian, and he pointed to real world
evidence that indicated a significant migration from ancient Armenia, which
includes modern day Armenia and Turkey, a migration of Odin
and families with him coming from there into Northwest Europe,
into Scandinavia, into Iceland, and bringing their technology with them.
(10:40):
He identified them the Iceer, as he called them, as
advanced people with technology that was head and shoulders above
what they were finding in Northwest Europe and Scandinavia, so
they were able to take those lands with ease. Snolish.
Sturluson said, you can see the evidence of the migration
in our language. The language we speak in Scandinavia today
(11:05):
is clearly descended from the language of asaland what we
would call ancient Armenia. And so he believed some of
these stories, not all of them, but certainly the Odin
stories were real history about a real migration, and that
there was in ancient Armenia a group of people who
(11:25):
had made great leaps forward in agriculture and other technology
and militarily. And he saw the evidence for that migration
in the real world.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Would you say ancient Turkey might have been the cradle
of civilization.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, there are so many ancient narrative traditions that say
exactly that. So in the Bible, for instance, Genesis points
to Ararat in ancient Armenia and says that's where Noah's
arc landed, and out of that arc, five family bloodlines
of re populated the world or the world of that region.
(12:03):
Noah planted the first vineyard, they got agriculture going again,
they got farming going again. So the Bible points there,
but also the Babylonian story of Zusudra points there. They
say that his arc landed on Ararat. If we go
into the Book of Ezekiel in the Bible, the writer
(12:23):
Ezekiel says that the garden of the powerful Ones, which
was really the seed bed of civilization, was in the
high country of the powerful Ones that ur or Uratu
or in the Hebrew spelling Ararat. So they're pointing there.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
We have the.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Armenian historian Moses Karazzi, writing in the four hundreds, who says, yes,
humanity was rebooted here, and he points to their great progenitor, Flake,
who was the descendant of Jaffith, who was the son
of Noah, so that story repeats there. So there are
many vectors pointing here. Ancient Greek and Roman historians pointed
(13:06):
to ancient Armenia and they said, this is where humanity
made a great leap forward into the Iron Age, and
so technology received a massive reboot there. So when I
went to Turkey, I was fully expecting to find references
to this great reboot. But what surprised me was how
much detail was in the Bronze Age story left behind
(13:27):
by the Urtians.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Paul, though, what would you say in Turkey in terms
of discoveries, was one of the most dramatic or impressive
things that you're uncovered.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I think one of the symbols really became a key
for me, and it was the symbol of these winged
advance beings whom the Urtians called tingiered, and instead of
telling amazing stories about how they could fly or travel
through space, the symbol that's left behind shows doing something
(14:00):
that initially looks really mundane, but it turns out to
be the key to civilization. And what they're doing is
hand pollinating plants, and that implies that there's been a
catastrophic shift in the ecosphere. That means the Urtians can't
get plants to grow or fruit or to create harvests,
(14:24):
and so they're going to have to hand pollinate, cross pollinate,
bring plants from other regions, and create strains that can
thrive in the new situation. And that's the detailed story
that's told there that really took me by surprise. The
other thing that surprised me was there is evidence that
the Uratians were using e fields, running water over dense
(14:48):
magnetic rock to create electronic and electrical magnetic fields to
affect our state of consciousness, and then creating light phenomena
to affect our state of consciousnes business, and then having
a chalice with a potion in it, which archaeologists refer
to as a libation offering, again to affect our state
(15:09):
of consciousness. Because the Iranians they did all these things
hoping that they would achieve contact experiences with the Tingier,
who would help their ancestors in the deep past. And
that was a revelation to me.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
What do you think was one of the most impressive
aspects of this to make you believe about the extraterrestrial
life here.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I think it was seeing these stories in context, being
able to compare them with what we find in what
is now Iran ancient Assyria and realize they're telling the
same story of advanced beings with flight technology, teaching hand pollination.
It's such an unlikely story that when you see it
(15:59):
repeating from culture to culture, that really grabs my attention.
And there are other artifacts that tell you that stories
of cataclysm and recovery are relating to something real. In Cappadocia,
in Turkey, you've got a great network of underground cities
which really seem to confirm the ancient Persian story of
(16:20):
jamshid Yama, which again is cataclysm and recovery. So it
just blew me away how many times this story repeated
in all kinds of different ways, with all kinds of evidences.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Do they say where they came from?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I think the hint is from the region of space
we would identify by the Sickness constellation. Now around the world,
I hear so many wonderful stories about helpers coming from
the Pleiades. I was sort of thinking and hoping I
might find another of those stories in Turkey, But the
Otheratians and their predecessors were actually focused on another region
(17:00):
of space, and that's the Swan constellation or sickness.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Now you talk about pine cones and buckets and handbags,
what are these?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, this is something that's fascinated people for a long
time because we see these motifs all around the world,
these interesting beings. Often they have wings. Often they have
very prominent calf muscles. Sometimes they have bird heads. But
so many of them are carrying a pine cone, or
sometimes it's a leaf or a feather. And then this
(17:34):
handbag or this bucket. And when we look at what
the Assyrians and the Ourtians carved, theirs are very definitely buckets,
and theirs are very definitely pine cones. And we know
what the Assyrians call them. The bucket is a bandoodoo
or a dalu, and we've actually recovered some of these
(17:54):
ancient buckets, and the pine cone is a malilu. And
in later ages they use these for purification rituals. But
the carvings and the paintings left behind tell us this
was equipment used in pollinating and cross pollinating plants. And
(18:14):
I think in a later stage the pine cone and
the bucket became a symbol for all the help that
these advanced others gave. It may even be a code
for cognitive improvements and technological advancements. But in the beginning,
if we look at Yerevan and the paintings left behind
there in Armenia, if we look at the carvings from
(18:37):
the palace of Ashur Nasipala second in ancient Assyria, there
the images are very clear. These are tools used in
agriculture for cross pollination.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
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