March 25, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and psychic intuitive Diane Calderon explore her spiritual transformation following the unexpected death of her son in a hit and run accident, and the signs and communications from him in the afterlife that help her deal with her grief and proves we are eternal beings.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Let me introduce you to our special guest. Diane Calderan
is a spiritual and intuitive advisor and teacher as well
as an author. Her book is called Living and Loving
Life All Day, every Day, a mother's story of loss, love,
and connecting with the afterlife. She has a master's degree
(00:27):
in sociology and a diverse career and governmental service. Diane,
welcome and thank you for coming onto the program.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Thank you very much George for that lovely introduction, and
I am especially excited to be a guest on your
wonderful program. Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And I am so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh, thank you very much, George.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's it's been a hard one and it's been a
few years, but I still miss that kid so much.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That was the impetus for writing the book. Was it
not correct?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It definitely led me to this new journey.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm on, Yes, if it's not too painful for you,
can you tell us what happened to him?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I certainly can.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
My son, who was thirty five years old, He wasn't,
you know, a young kid, but a grown up man.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Was walking his dog to the dog park one night.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Lived in a residential area in Phoenix, and as he
was crossing the street, which was not a very busy street,
he got hit by a car, a hit and run,
and it took him pretty quick, and his passing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Just threw me for a loop.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And it was a challenging time in life already, but
that kind of put the icing on the cake.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Did they ever catch the person who hit him?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Fortunately, the young man who hit him was driving his
There's car and when he got to his house, he
was shook up and told his mom what had happened
and said he just got scared and he didn't stop,
and she had him call the police and turn himself in.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He wasn't drinking, nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, No, he had been down the road.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
At a barber shop getting a haircut and was heading
home up this road. He was driving a little faster
than one should, but wasn't drinking. The police investigated that
he wasn't using the cell phone. The lights It was
a nighttime accident.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The lights were on the headlights.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
My son should have seen the lights as he was
crossing the road. There's just no explanation as to why
this young man hit him.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I have lost a sister, I've lost the father, and
I've lost some very close friends in my lifetime, and
it seems, Diane, that it goes and streaks for me
where the grief is always there, the pain is always there.
But you know, sometimes I'm fine. I just keep doing
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my thing and everything's great. But then there's a moment
where I stop and think about them or reflect and
the pain comes back. Is that normal?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I believe that is normal.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I would worry if us humans didn't feel the loss
of those that we've held dear to our hearts now
and then.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Carry the grief all the time, because that's not a
way to live. It's like the book says, live and
love life all day. Every day is just keep moving forward,
honor their presence, feel the grief when it hits, but
don't carry it on your shoulders all day. Because here
we are. Let's enjoy the life while we can. We
will join them at some point later on, but there's
(04:04):
no rush, no no rush, no hurry. Let's enjoy this
place while we can't, even though it gets a little
challenging at times. We can still, you know, hug a
friend and enjoy a sunrise and sit at a beach
and whatever life brings us, and know that it's special
and we are very blessed to be here.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How deep and how bad was that loss for you
when it happened?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It was incredibly hard for me. George Matthew was my
only child.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And he was my backbone and my biggest support as
I was dealing with the decline of my husband. My
husband Sal had dementia and he had gotten into a
pretty bad place at the time that my son was killed.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
My son would come and visit me.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
He lived in the Phoenix area, two hours from where
I live, and he would come and visit when he
had his days off from work and help with his
dad as much as he could and give me a
little bit of a break so I could run into
town and take care of, you know, errands and groceries
and what have you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So losing him was really difficult.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I didn't have any other close relatives that I could
depend on to help me with my husband.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Once your son got hit and died, what did you do?
Who did you turn to for help?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well, I got the phone call the day it happened,
one night, and I got the phone call the next
day unexpectedly from a Phoenix detective, you know, asking do
you know Matthew blah blah blah, And you know, the
police don't call you unless it's bad news, right if
they had picked him up and put him in jail,
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they're not going.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
To call you.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So my heart, you know, was like, oh, no, a
detective is calling, what's he want? He tells me that
my son had been killed the.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Night before, and I just about lost it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But I had to keep it together long enough, you know,
to ask the circumstances, what happened?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Are you sure it's my son? And get some of
the details.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So after I found out what happened and what time
of night, I first went to my husband and he
was not all there, George, he just wasn't all there
that day.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I told him Matthew died.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
He was killed in a hit and run last night,
and my husband just kind of patted my head and said, oh,
I'm sorry, and that was it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It didn't sink in, did it at all?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
No, it did not sink in at that moment. I mean,
he had times when it did. You know later it
kind of hit him, but never as deep as if
you're all there mentally.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So my next move was to call, you know, my.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Sisters they lived out of state, call some of the
other relatives, call some of my closest friends. I did
have a friend nearby who came right away to help me,
and then got a hold of some of my son's friends.
He had gone to school in this area and had
some help from them also, So that helped.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Carry me for you know, first couple of.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Weeks, going through the process of what do you do now?
I've never had to really deal with the death, and
what do we do a funeral.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Or go to a church? What do we do?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Ended up doing two parties for him, because that was
my son, one up here where we live in one in.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Phoenix, because he had a lot of.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Friends and he liked to have a good time, and
so we did parties instead of awake, and I think
that was the best way to honor him.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And I think some of the worst times are we
don't have time in some of these cases, like with you,
some of my runs were passed on quickly. We don't
have time to prepare, we don't have time to handle ourselves.
My mother, God lover, is going to be ninety six
years old in May, and she's in great health and everything.
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But I've gotten to the point where she's ninety six,
so I understand that if something happens to her, God forbid,
I'm preparing myself for it. I'm ready for it. But
you know, your son was thirty five years old and
you didn't expect it. It's not like he had a
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prolonged disease or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I was anticipating the eventual passing of my husband, and
that was a long process. It took about five years
from the time he was diagnosed with the Louis body
dementia to the point of his passing over. So I
was at a stage of trying to prepare for.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That and reading the books and trying to understand where
we were headed. I was not prepared for what happened
with my son.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Interestingly enough, in the weeks before he died, he was
trying to grow up, so to speak. He had kind
of been a wanderer and had done a lot of
jobs in his life, but he had finally decided he
was going to get serious and pursue a contractor's license.
He loved doing construction, and he started talking to me
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about helping him out. I could do the business part
because I was good with paperwork, and he would be
the contractor. And he was getting ready to take the
contractor's licensing exam. And he had been up visiting me
that weekend before he passed, and we had some interesting conversations.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And part of the conversation touched on.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That topic of death and dying, and you know, with
his dad getting ready to actually transfer over, we got
into a few spiritual discussions, which was unusual because my
son was not a spiritual person so to speak.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
We talked about.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Importantly, you know, if one of us dies, Matt and
I'll probably go before you, but hey, just in case
if one of us dies, let's make a promise right
now that whoever passes over has to come back and
let the other person know they're okay.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Give a sign. And he kind of looked at me like,
are you crazy, but he said, okay, Mom, I guess
we could do that.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And that conversation came back to mind many days later, actually,
the day after the day of.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
My finding out that he had died.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I'm sitting there that night thinking about that conversation that
we had had, and I was a little upset. It's like, Matt,
we made an agreement that when you died, you were
supposed to give me a sign.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And then George, boom, it hit me. He gave me.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
A sign he did.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh yes, oh yes, a remarkable sign.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What was that sign?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Well, the night that he died, I'm sitting at my
home and we had the television on. There was a
program that was going to start. It was a speech
by the president. And my husband was unusually quiet that
evening and was watching the television, and I'm sitting on
the sofa next to him, and I'm a little bored,
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and I kind of looked up at I saw in
front of me, George, this amazing sparkling lights sparkling in
front of my face, all different colors. I don't know
if when you were a child you might have played
with sparklers over the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Oh I love them, loved them.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Oh my god, that's what it looked like. But different
colors just right in front of my face. I could
almost reach out and touch them. And these lights flickered
for a few seconds and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Wow, what is that? And they disappeared.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I looked over at my husband and he's sitting on
the sofa fixed on the TV.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The lights showed up in front of him. He did
not see them.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
They flickered for a few seconds that I'm watching, and
he's not reacting.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
He does not see these lights.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They go out, and I think, oh my god, I
am losing it?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Am I hallucin eighty? This is not going to be good.
How am I going to take care of my husband
if I'm losing it too? Oh dear.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They showed up again, George in front of me again.
Now I'm watching them, and instead of going out right away,
they moved to my left. It's like they floated over
ninety degree angle from the front to the side.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And then they disappeared.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
And when they disappeared, you know, I'm in awe. It's like,
Oh my god, I guess I am losing it.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh wait, look on the table. There's a book. Uh huh, oh,
look at the book. So I was distracted by the book, George,
not all about the lights. Picked up the book.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
It was a book that my husband had apparently dragged
out of the bookshelf and had just dropped there because
he would wander around and move things.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And it was Edgar Casey. It was about Edgar Casey.
There is a river. I see the book and I
pick it up, and I get.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Excited because my son was coming up the next day,
and I remembered the conversation we'd had a few days before,
where not only did I say, if you die, give
me a sign, but I had said to him, you know,
I have always thought that.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Children choose their parents before they come here.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
That they're sitting up there in heaven and they're looking
around and they're saying, I want to come down and
be born, But who do I want is my parents.
I don't know why I got that idea from that,
but that's something that I've carried forever.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So I think you chose me. So sometimes you're not
happy with that choice, but hey, you pick me. So
I'm looking at the book and it's like, that's where
I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I had forgotten what I told them that tale where
I had the concept, and it hit.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Me it was Edgar Casey. George. I open that book.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I mean I just flip it open, boom, right on
the page where Casey talks about the souls, the children
planning out their lives and choosing their parents.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You can't make this up right here.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It is, Oh my god. So I'm reading the story
in the book. I forget about the speech on TV.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I forgot about the lights.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Oh I got I'm excited because, oh I'm going to
show Matt tomorrow where I got this idea. Okay, so
you know, eventually, put the book down, go to bed.
Next morning, I get up, interesting morning, get my husband up,
get him at the table, get his breakfast.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And I live in a rural area.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I have to jump in the car and drive about
three quarters of a mile down to the highway to
get a paper. As I'm driving down the road, bluebirds
come flying next to the car.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
George, where I live, we don't normally get bluebirds. I
had never seen them here and we've been here thirty.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Plus years, and these bluebirds are flying along the car,
and I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
What the heck a these birds? Get up, get the paper,
turn back around. I'm thinking about the birds.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It made me think of my son when he was
a little boy, singing Zippity do to mister bluebird on
my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Great song.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And I thought, oh, that's such a cool memory. And I
wonder why they're bluebirds. And oh gosh, remember over the
rainbow and blue birds?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Where blue birds fly? This is on my mind right
come home.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
A little bit later, I get that phone call from
the detective that my son had died.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I asked the detective what time did he die? And
he told me.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But I didn't connect the dots, George at that moment
with what had happened the night before. Did not come
to mind. That night, I'm sitting at the table. My
husband had gone to bed, and I'm waiting for my sisters.
They were flying in and to rent a car drive
up to be with me, and I'm thinking about what
had happened, and I in.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
My mind, I'm like, Matt, you were supposed to give
me a sign. Remember, You're supposed to give me a sign.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And then it's boom, that was the sign. What time
did he done? Seven pm? What time did I see
those lights?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
George?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
My god, not only did that bring a ton of comfort,
the realization that that was my son hit me, it
flooded my whole being.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That was my son showing these lights.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He said hi, Mom, went over and said hi Pop,
and then he showed me the book because it was
important for me to know that he now knew that.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
He told me, as his mom.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Diane, grief never goes away, But how long did it
take for you to kind of temper it?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Wow? Coming to that realization that night helped a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Right then and there. It just helped a lot because
I knew he was okay. I knew he was in
another dimension, another world, heaven, whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It is you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
It helped temper my grief to where I could get
through the first two weeks, a.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Lot of activity, people coming and going, but.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Then everybody left after that last party we had in Phoenix.
I'm driving home by myself, two hour drive, and then
it just flooded, and I'm crying all the way home,
and just you know, thinking about different things that we'd
been going through, and you know, making the connections of
Matt showing me these signs. But one of the things
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that helped is someone had led me to think about
mediumship and those who can connect with spirit and communicate
with him. So after I got home, I began to
look into books and whatever I could get my hands
on regarding mediumship because I had not known a lot
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about mediums before heard about him, never thought.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I would ever want to go to one. Thought it
was a little too woo woo. But I started reading the.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Books and learned an awful lot about how spirit communicates,
and the more I learned, the easier my grief seemed
to be because I knew my son was over on
the other side and that he was watching over me.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He was continued sending me signs. Rainbows were a big
sign for.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Him, the bluebirds and playing with the lights in the house,
the ceiling fan he'd play with that he had installed,
the ceiling fan he'd play with that.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So I knew he was around and had helped. The
grief had to kind of go to a back burner
for me, though, because I.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Was dealing with my husband who was getting worse and worse,
and so I couldn't just melt into a puddle of
grief because I had to be realistic and take care
of this man.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Let me introduce you to our special guest. Diane Calderan
is a spiritual and intuitive advisor and teacher as well
as an author. Her book is called Living and Loving
Life All Day, every Day, a mother's story of loss, love,
and connecting with the afterlife. She has a master's degree
(00:27):
in sociology and a diverse career and governmental service. Diane,
welcome and thank you for coming onto the program.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Thank you very much George for that lovely introduction, and
I am especially excited to be a guest on your
wonderful program. Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And I am so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh, thank you very much, George.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's it's been a hard one and it's been a
few years, but I still miss that kid so much.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That was the impetus for writing the book. Was it
not correct?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It definitely led me to this new journey.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm on, Yes, if it's not too painful for you,
can you tell us what happened to him?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I certainly can.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
My son, who was thirty five years old, He wasn't,
you know, a young kid, but a grown up man.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Was walking his dog to the dog park one night.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Lived in a residential area in Phoenix, and as he
was crossing the street, which was not a very busy street,
he got hit by a car, a hit and run,
and it took him pretty quick, and his passing.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Just threw me for a loop.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And it was a challenging time in life already, but
that kind of put the icing on the cake.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Did they ever catch the person who hit him?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Fortunately, the young man who hit him was driving his
There's car and when he got to his house, he
was shook up and told his mom what had happened
and said he just got scared and he didn't stop,
and she had him call the police and turn himself in.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He wasn't drinking, nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, No, he had been down the road.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
At a barber shop getting a haircut and was heading
home up this road. He was driving a little faster
than one should, but wasn't drinking. The police investigated that
he wasn't using the cell phone. The lights It was
a nighttime accident.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The lights were on the headlights.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
My son should have seen the lights as he was
crossing the road. There's just no explanation as to why
this young man hit him.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I have lost a sister, I've lost the father, and
I've lost some very close friends in my lifetime, and
it seems, Diane, that it goes and streaks for me
where the grief is always there, the pain is always there.
But you know, sometimes I'm fine. I just keep doing
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my thing and everything's great. But then there's a moment
where I stop and think about them or reflect and
the pain comes back. Is that normal?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I believe that is normal.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I would worry if us humans didn't feel the loss
of those that we've held dear to our hearts now
and then.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Carry the grief all the time, because that's not a
way to live. It's like the book says, live and
love life all day. Every day is just keep moving forward,
honor their presence, feel the grief when it hits, but
don't carry it on your shoulders all day. Because here
we are. Let's enjoy the life while we can. We
will join them at some point later on, but there's
(04:04):
no rush, no no rush, no hurry. Let's enjoy this
place while we can't, even though it gets a little
challenging at times. We can still, you know, hug a
friend and enjoy a sunrise and sit at a beach
and whatever life brings us, and know that it's special
and we are very blessed to be here.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How deep and how bad was that loss for you
when it happened?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
It was incredibly hard for me. George Matthew was my
only child.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
And he was my backbone and my biggest support as
I was dealing with the decline of my husband. My
husband Sal had dementia and he had gotten into a
pretty bad place at the time that my son was killed.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
My son would come and visit me.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
He lived in the Phoenix area, two hours from where
I live, and he would come and visit when he
had his days off from work and help with his
dad as much as he could and give me a
little bit of a break so I could run into
town and take care of, you know, errands and groceries
and what have you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So losing him was really difficult.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I didn't have any other close relatives that I could
depend on to help me with my husband.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Once your son got hit and died, what did you do?
Who did you turn to for help?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well, I got the phone call the day it happened,
one night, and I got the phone call the next
day unexpectedly from a Phoenix detective, you know, asking do
you know Matthew blah blah blah, And you know, the
police don't call you unless it's bad news, right if
they had picked him up and put him in jail,
(05:58):
they're not going.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
To call you.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So my heart, you know, was like, oh, no, a
detective is calling, what's he want? He tells me that
my son had been killed the.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Night before, and I just about lost it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But I had to keep it together long enough, you know,
to ask the circumstances, what happened?
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Are you sure it's my son? And get some of
the details.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So after I found out what happened and what time
of night, I first went to my husband and he
was not all there, George, he just wasn't all there
that day.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I told him Matthew died.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
He was killed in a hit and run last night,
and my husband just kind of patted my head and said, oh,
I'm sorry, and that was it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It didn't sink in, did it at all?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
No, it did not sink in at that moment. I mean,
he had times when it did. You know later it
kind of hit him, but never as deep as if
you're all there mentally.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
So my next move was to call, you know, my.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Sisters they lived out of state, call some of the
other relatives, call some of my closest friends. I did
have a friend nearby who came right away to help me,
and then got a hold of some of my son's friends.
He had gone to school in this area and had
some help from them also, So that helped.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Carry me for you know, first couple of.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Weeks, going through the process of what do you do now?
I've never had to really deal with the death, and
what do we do a funeral.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Or go to a church? What do we do?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Ended up doing two parties for him, because that was
my son, one up here where we live in one in.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Phoenix, because he had a lot of.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Friends and he liked to have a good time, and
so we did parties instead of awake, and I think
that was the best way to honor him.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
And I think some of the worst times are we
don't have time in some of these cases, like with you,
some of my runs were passed on quickly. We don't
have time to prepare, we don't have time to handle ourselves.
My mother, God lover, is going to be ninety six
years old in May, and she's in great health and everything.
(08:17):
But I've gotten to the point where she's ninety six,
so I understand that if something happens to her, God forbid,
I'm preparing myself for it. I'm ready for it. But
you know, your son was thirty five years old and
you didn't expect it. It's not like he had a
(08:38):
prolonged disease or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I was anticipating the eventual passing of my husband, and
that was a long process. It took about five years
from the time he was diagnosed with the Louis body
dementia to the point of his passing over. So I
was at a stage of trying to prepare for.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That and reading the books and trying to understand where
we were headed. I was not prepared for what happened
with my son.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Interestingly enough, in the weeks before he died, he was
trying to grow up, so to speak. He had kind
of been a wanderer and had done a lot of
jobs in his life, but he had finally decided he
was going to get serious and pursue a contractor's license.
He loved doing construction, and he started talking to me
(09:32):
about helping him out. I could do the business part
because I was good with paperwork, and he would be
the contractor. And he was getting ready to take the
contractor's licensing exam. And he had been up visiting me
that weekend before he passed, and we had some interesting conversations.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And part of the conversation touched on.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That topic of death and dying, and you know, with
his dad getting ready to actually transfer over, we got
into a few spiritual discussions, which was unusual because my
son was not a spiritual person so to speak.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
We talked about.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Importantly, you know, if one of us dies, Matt and
I'll probably go before you, but hey, just in case
if one of us dies, let's make a promise right
now that whoever passes over has to come back and
let the other person know they're okay.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Give a sign. And he kind of looked at me like,
are you crazy, but he said, okay, Mom, I guess
we could do that.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And that conversation came back to mind many days later, actually,
the day after the day of.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
My finding out that he had died.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I'm sitting there that night thinking about that conversation that
we had had, and I was a little upset. It's like, Matt,
we made an agreement that when you died, you were
supposed to give me a sign.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And then George, boom, it hit me. He gave me.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
A sign he did.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Oh yes, oh yes, a remarkable sign.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What was that sign?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Well, the night that he died, I'm sitting at my
home and we had the television on. There was a
program that was going to start. It was a speech
by the president. And my husband was unusually quiet that
evening and was watching the television, and I'm sitting on
the sofa next to him, and I'm a little bored,
(11:27):
and I kind of looked up at I saw in
front of me, George, this amazing sparkling lights sparkling in
front of my face, all different colors. I don't know
if when you were a child you might have played
with sparklers over the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Oh I love them, loved them.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Oh my god, that's what it looked like. But different
colors just right in front of my face. I could
almost reach out and touch them. And these lights flickered
for a few seconds and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Wow, what is that? And they disappeared.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I looked over at my husband and he's sitting on
the sofa fixed on the TV.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
The lights showed up in front of him. He did
not see them.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
They flickered for a few seconds that I'm watching, and
he's not reacting.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
He does not see these lights.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
They go out, and I think, oh my god, I
am losing it?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Am I hallucin eighty? This is not going to be good.
How am I going to take care of my husband
if I'm losing it too? Oh dear.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They showed up again, George in front of me again.
Now I'm watching them, and instead of going out right away,
they moved to my left. It's like they floated over
ninety degree angle from the front to the side.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And then they disappeared.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
And when they disappeared, you know, I'm in awe. It's like,
Oh my god, I guess I am losing it.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh wait, look on the table. There's a book. Uh huh, oh,
look at the book. So I was distracted by the book, George,
not all about the lights. Picked up the book.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
It was a book that my husband had apparently dragged
out of the bookshelf and had just dropped there because
he would wander around and move things.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
And it was Edgar Casey. It was about Edgar Casey.
There is a river. I see the book and I
pick it up, and I get.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Excited because my son was coming up the next day,
and I remembered the conversation we'd had a few days before,
where not only did I say, if you die, give
me a sign, but I had said to him, you know,
I have always thought that.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Children choose their parents before they come here.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
That they're sitting up there in heaven and they're looking
around and they're saying, I want to come down and
be born, But who do I want is my parents.
I don't know why I got that idea from that,
but that's something that I've carried forever.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So I think you chose me. So sometimes you're not
happy with that choice, but hey, you pick me. So
I'm looking at the book and it's like, that's where
I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I had forgotten what I told them that tale where
I had the concept, and it hit.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Me it was Edgar Casey. George. I open that book.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I mean I just flip it open, boom, right on
the page where Casey talks about the souls, the children
planning out their lives and choosing their parents.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You can't make this up right here.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
It is, Oh my god. So I'm reading the story
in the book. I forget about the speech on TV.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I forgot about the lights.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Oh I got I'm excited because, oh I'm going to
show Matt tomorrow where I got this idea. Okay, so
you know, eventually, put the book down, go to bed.
Next morning, I get up, interesting morning, get my husband up,
get him at the table, get his breakfast.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And I live in a rural area.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I have to jump in the car and drive about
three quarters of a mile down to the highway to
get a paper. As I'm driving down the road, bluebirds
come flying next to the car.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
George, where I live, we don't normally get bluebirds. I
had never seen them here and we've been here thirty.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Plus years, and these bluebirds are flying along the car,
and I'm thinking.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
What the heck a these birds? Get up, get the paper,
turn back around. I'm thinking about the birds.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
It made me think of my son when he was
a little boy, singing Zippity do to mister bluebird on
my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Great song.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
And I thought, oh, that's such a cool memory. And I
wonder why they're bluebirds. And oh gosh, remember over the
rainbow and blue birds?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Where blue birds fly? This is on my mind right
come home.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
A little bit later, I get that phone call from
the detective that my son had died.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I asked the detective what time did he die? And
he told me.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But I didn't connect the dots, George at that moment
with what had happened the night before. Did not come
to mind. That night, I'm sitting at the table. My
husband had gone to bed, and I'm waiting for my sisters.
They were flying in and to rent a car drive
up to be with me, and I'm thinking about what
had happened, and I in.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
My mind, I'm like, Matt, you were supposed to give
me a sign. Remember, You're supposed to give me a sign.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And then it's boom, that was the sign. What time
did he done? Seven pm? What time did I see
those lights?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
George?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
My god, not only did that bring a ton of comfort,
the realization that that was my son hit me, it
flooded my whole being.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
That was my son showing these lights.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He said hi, Mom, went over and said hi Pop,
and then he showed me the book because it was
important for me to know that he now knew that.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
He told me, as his mom.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Diane, grief never goes away, But how long did it
take for you to kind of temper it?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Wow? Coming to that realization that night helped a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Right then and there. It just helped a lot because
I knew he was okay. I knew he was in
another dimension, another world, heaven, whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It is you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
It helped temper my grief to where I could get
through the first two weeks, a.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Lot of activity, people coming and going, but.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Then everybody left after that last party we had in Phoenix.
I'm driving home by myself, two hour drive, and then
it just flooded, and I'm crying all the way home,
and just you know, thinking about different things that we'd
been going through, and you know, making the connections of
Matt showing me these signs. But one of the things
(17:36):
that helped is someone had led me to think about
mediumship and those who can connect with spirit and communicate
with him. So after I got home, I began to
look into books and whatever I could get my hands
on regarding mediumship because I had not known a lot
(17:57):
about mediums before heard about him, never thought.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I would ever want to go to one. Thought it
was a little too woo woo. But I started reading the.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Books and learned an awful lot about how spirit communicates,
and the more I learned, the easier my grief seemed
to be because I knew my son was over on
the other side and that he was watching over me.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He was continued sending me signs. Rainbows were a big
sign for.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Him, the bluebirds and playing with the lights in the house,
the ceiling fan he'd play with that he had installed,
the ceiling fan he'd play with that.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
So I knew he was around and had helped. The
grief had to kind of go to a back burner
for me, though, because I.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Was dealing with my husband who was getting worse and worse,
and so I couldn't just melt into a puddle of
grief because I had to be realistic and take care
of this man.
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