May 5, 2025 • 16 mins
George Noory and ufologist Stephen Bassett discuss the future of UFO disclosure by the US Government.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back George Nori with Steven Bassett from the
Paradigm Research Group and also the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Stephen,
we were talking about this administration, the Trump administration, and
how much they might release. Do you think if you
had the guess, when could it happen?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, yeah, to answer, I gave you the first half
of the answer, which is, don't think on one or
two years. Take one or two months, all right, And
in terms of what we're going to get it, first,
we must have the confirmation by a head of state
that it's there's no human tech here and there's non
humans that built it here.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I think I know where they're from.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But that's almost second to the fact that there's advanced
non human technologically advance not human energies.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Now, what we will learn.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Will follow immediately from that. So one of the first
things you will see happen is if the UAP Disclosure
Act has not been reinstituted, meaning it was submitted. The
full act was submitted but cut in half a couple
of years ago, and we was resubmitted the next year.
But then withdrawing. There's a rumor that Mike Grounds is
going to resubmit it again this year. But the full bill,
(01:15):
everything that was taken out the last time disclosure would
almost certainly trip that. So that full UAP Disclosure Act,
with all the bills and whistles, a peen of power,
Presidential Review Board, the whole nine yards will immediately go
into effect, or be put it pasted in an effect
and thus begins the quote post disclosure disclosure process. And
(01:38):
it will we will get it all. The entire vault
will be emptied, but not on day one. The process
will begin, and that which can be brought forward immediately
will will come forth. Some things will be held back
for a while, but in an orderly and known way,
until the vault is empty.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
How long will that take?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It might take two, three, four, five, six years, but
depending upon world events, and also depending upon off world
events such as open contact. But I can say one
thing with regard to the technology and the science that
has been learned from that tech, the pressure on the
government by the whole world will be enormous, and so
(02:18):
I do not think they can sit on that very long.
You might see that tech being brought out or at
least the understanding of it and the explanations and so forth,
the accounting for it and the science we've learned pretty quick,
and the people are going to be I think patient.
As long as we're getting new and previously undisclosed documents
(02:38):
and other information as well as possibly hard, hard evidence,
I think they'll be patient. So that's how that's going
to go. And let me say something as clearly as
I can. The head of state that ends this embargo
will get one of the greatest political legacies of all
time period.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
They will build status choose, okay, but we will.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We will as soon as we enter the post disclosure
where other heads of state are going to jump in.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Quickly.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You're not going to sit back and uh and act
like act dumb, play dead and dumb. No, no, no,
They're gonna be in there, and it's gonna be a global matter.
You'll have shortly after disclosure takes place, whoever the head
of state starts it, you'll have them getting together, holding conferences.
The un will be brought into play, and you'll be
seeing a lot of this happening as it will be
a global engagement it has to be.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That will have much how much in your opinion, Stephen,
will they tell us or will they still hold back?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I ultimately they are going to tell us everything. They
have no choice.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The pressure on the entire structure and all the information managers,
and it will be astronomical after disclosure, and the Disclosure
Act was designed to create a responsible way.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
To do this.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It doesn't really include much push for those that want
to play foot seet with this. And if any entity,
kind of a rogue entity that's got some big underground
facilities somewhere that nobody even in the government knows where
the hell they are, they decide to see if they
can stick it out, they're probably gonna end up in jail.
(04:18):
Disclosure is a transformative event. It's not business as usual.
And again because of the Internet, because of the importance
of the issue, the pressure, it won't be a few
million people, It'll be a few billion people demanding not
only information from the US, but for every of the
country that may have any all of the nuclear nations,
most of the developed nations. Those government are going to
(04:40):
be enormous pressure get something, get it out there, and
they will.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
They'll actually start competing.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think, with each other to see who can come
up with the coolest thing you know this week or
this month. It's going to be spectacular, as George, and
I promise I'm still willing to come on the show
after you're not.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Going to be.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You will be on. Is it conceivable, Old Stephen, How
will they address the subject of why they did not
tell us anything for so many years? Will they address that?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Absolutely? National security?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You'll hear it over and over again, and people now
don't quite get the national security connection.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But if you can take yourself back in time.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Read a little history, Read the incredible book The Making
of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhoades, a masterpiece, Pull
a surprise book, national bookwork, take yourself back to nineteen
forty seven, in nineteen fifty three, and you can understand
why this issue was treated at the highest level of
national security. And if we hadn't developed a full blown
(05:49):
cold war and a nuclear arms race, it might have
come out sooner. But every additional nuclear weapon that was
added to the pile, which eventually peaked out around eighty
five thousand in the mid eighties, the justification, national security
justification for continuing to keep this embargo in place was there.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And we've had plenty of wars and other things.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So it will be national security, and most of the
American people, particularly the millennials, will go okay, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Hey, it's okay. As long as we get to the truth,
we move forward.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Those that want to go back in the past and
legislator litigate the whole damn thing, and they're welcome to it.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'm not interested.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Might they address the alien abduction phenomenon?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh yeah, and that will be one of the more
difficult post disclosure situations. It's not in play, and the
legislator the congressional process. I don't think anybody should be
shocked by that. But they're not totally being left alone.
I talk about the contact all the time in the
same context I'm talking about the political developments. Are the
(06:56):
members of Congress aware of it? You bet they are,
But they understand that the basis for moving forward, disclosure,
national security, and trusting government, what have you, is sufficient
to get the job done. Trying to bring in the
entire contact phenomena, which is extraordinarily complex and very unsettling
(07:19):
at some degrees, is just too much, they're asked, and
so they have to wait.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
But once disclosure takes place.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I assure you there will be hearings of researchers and
contact ease on the hill and contact. These will be
coming forward by the hundreds of thousands, maybe even forming
political entities in order to address their concerns and what
have you, and they will get an enormous amount of
(07:48):
attention in the post disclosure world. Positive I believe in
well deserved and their patience is certainly appreciated.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Are you excited about the possibilities?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh my god, I just wish I could you know,
do one of those what do they call it forward
and back or whatever whatever?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Thirty years?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, because backflips, yeah whatever. The next twenty thirty years
are going to be off the charts. So the millennials
of gen zs are going to have hell of a ride.
It's going to be complicated, and to the extent that
they can get on board and start paying attention to
this would be helpful for them.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But wor you think the world is changing fast now?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, and so I can't even predict what things are
going to look like in twenty years. But the early
years of the post disclosure world, let's go go to
the next five to six off the charts, it's going
to be the greatest streaming series of all time. And
I then stick around to get at least three or
four seasons.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Will it be a United Nations announcement or a United
States announcement?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
United Nations is not in a position to do this.
It's not It needs major reform, so no a single
country will go first. And at this point, the US
is in the lead. However, as I've said for I
don't know several thousand times over the last twenty eight years,
you know, dear DoD Unless Vladimir Putin and Hi Jingping
(09:18):
are getting a regular paycheck from you in a you know,
a W two form, they can do it tomorrow, in
which case your second best So is that okay?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But maybe they know something I don't know, And there's
other heads of state that could do it, but our
friends and allies don't want to cut in line.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
But right now we are clearly set to get this done,
and our president could do it tomorrow. But there's plenty
of platform that's already been built. I was hoping they
might have a few more heroes.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
We don't need them.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
There's enough President could walk out tomorrow and say yeah,
there's non human tech here, non human presence, and people
are going yeah, yeah, I sort of thought that to president,
and then well then the post disclosure world begins. So
that's why I'm extremely up. Now, this is subject to
international developments. As you know, there's been a bit of
(10:13):
how would you say, kerfuffle's going on, missiles flying here, there,
ships being sunk. God, no, if that intensifies or something
new turns up, it could delay it. So that's always
a possibility, probably more likely than not. On the other hand,
and I've made this case many times, if you'd like
to reduce the number of these things that have been
(10:35):
happening that they're so upsetting and depressing, get disclosure done.
It may be that in the post disclosure world will
have less of that as the entire planet in all
two hundred countries redesign or reposition their telescopes, you might say,
their attention to a much broader and a different world.
(10:58):
And so in a set we got nothing to lose,
It can't get worse, and so disclosure may be the
answer to that. But until we get disclosure, yeah, something's
going to happen. Somebody's going to invade something, low up something.
The next thing you.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Know, we're embroiled in that.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But barring anything really bad, and I say that carefully again,
the stage is set the President of the United States
to end the truth in bargo being done, and then
we'll see what happens after that.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I remember back in two thousand and one, you were
working on a hearing with Steven Greer and then nine
to eleven happened. So my question that was.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Career Agreer produced that that was totally his event machine
was helping me.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But yeah, May nine, two thousand and one, I was there,
was it was a very major event.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is it conceivable that more major events will occur to
delay the announcement?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, no, Well because they happen. I mean, this is
a very dangerous, complex world. It's not being managed well,
and we're not fixing things. We're not reforming. We haven't
address some of the fundamental issues that are creating hell
on this planet, which is one of the reasons we
need disclosure. Some people think that some of these things
are deliberately happening, being made to happen in order to
(12:17):
prevent disclosure.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I have no no confidence in that. I don't think
that's the case at all, whether.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's ninety one one or the invasion of this country,
the odd pandemic, whatever the hell. At least we haven't
got a massive metior you know, coming that would definitely
delay it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But it's a dangerous world.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
So it's a you know, it's kind of an interesting
dilemma in a sense. It's kind of a catch twenty two.
We constantly have catastrophes and bad things happening because of
bad judgment and bad politics that prevents disclosure, But disclosure
could very well set us in a path to get
away from that, and so it's a catch twenty two,
(12:56):
and it's like the Gordian knot.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Let's just take out the sword galaxy that it is.
That dilemma.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That is one of the reasons why seventy eight years
after Roswell we still haven't gotten disclosure, and even thirty
five years since the end of the Soviet Union, which
really kind of opened a major opportunity, we still haven't
(13:24):
gotten it.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Because it is a Gordian knot a formidable design.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What would our friend, the late Apalla fourteen astronaut edgar
Mitchell be seen right about now?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I wish he was here for this. I really too.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
There's a number of people that didn't make it, and
it pains me every time lose one. But he would
be I hope gracious in victory, and I invite everybody
else to be the same. No, just chill and relax
and wait for the phone calls to come to you
(14:04):
and go.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, well thanks for calling.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. Now, it's been a long road and I'm so
glad the truth has come out. I look forward to,
you know, the post disclosure world. Let's let's see what
kind of things can happen. A lot of new possibilities.
By the way, Uh, get back to the briefing on
May first.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Galadet went on again about the USOS, which is a.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Very big deal, right uh more, and he is so
so strong, so authentic, and that was very important.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
There is talk about, uh.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
The number of there's a number of initiatives involved in
trying to get craft more legislation to protect witnesses and
with whistleblowers, not the same thing that you could have
an ominous bill.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
But there was somebody there that caught my attention, an amazing,
extraordinary woman by the name of Anna Brady as debts.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So who's she I really had not heard of her before,
and she went on for a great length of time.
She has multiple degrees, including you O, PhD. And she's
been involved in a whole range of I think some
government some uh you know, off government UH engagements regarding
(15:25):
tech development UH and helping companies to get funding and
so forth. A lots of companies that have achieved enormous wealth,
enormous UH value in the trileance UH. And she referred
to she made a phrase I'd never heard before. She said,
they're looking at UAP adjacent technology UAP adjacent technology. And
(15:51):
the message that I got from her, and she's by
the way, based in the Washington area, is that there
has been some companies that have somehow because of this
whole reality that we've been dealing with, that have gotten
some tech things going and that has been funded that
many of these I guess you could say venture operations
(16:13):
and and and and company funders are aware of this.
They're aware that many of these companies like the Lockheeds
and so.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Forth, have got this tech and they want to fund it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
And welcome back George Nori with Steven Bassett from the
Paradigm Research Group and also the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Stephen,
we were talking about this administration, the Trump administration, and
how much they might release. Do you think if you
had the guess, when could it happen?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, yeah, to answer, I gave you the first half
of the answer, which is, don't think on one or
two years. Take one or two months, all right, And
in terms of what we're going to get it, first,
we must have the confirmation by a head of state
that it's there's no human tech here and there's non
humans that built it here.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I think I know where they're from.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But that's almost second to the fact that there's advanced
non human technologically advance not human energies.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Now, what we will learn.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Will follow immediately from that. So one of the first
things you will see happen is if the UAP Disclosure
Act has not been reinstituted, meaning it was submitted. The
full act was submitted but cut in half a couple
of years ago, and we was resubmitted the next year.
But then withdrawing. There's a rumor that Mike Grounds is
going to resubmit it again this year. But the full bill,
(01:15):
everything that was taken out the last time disclosure would
almost certainly trip that. So that full UAP Disclosure Act,
with all the bills and whistles, a peen of power,
Presidential Review Board, the whole nine yards will immediately go
into effect, or be put it pasted in an effect
and thus begins the quote post disclosure disclosure process. And
(01:38):
it will we will get it all. The entire vault
will be emptied, but not on day one. The process
will begin, and that which can be brought forward immediately
will will come forth. Some things will be held back
for a while, but in an orderly and known way,
until the vault is empty.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
How long will that take?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It might take two, three, four, five, six years, but
depending upon world events, and also depending upon off world
events such as open contact. But I can say one
thing with regard to the technology and the science that
has been learned from that tech, the pressure on the
government by the whole world will be enormous, and so
(02:18):
I do not think they can sit on that very long.
You might see that tech being brought out or at
least the understanding of it and the explanations and so forth,
the accounting for it and the science we've learned pretty quick,
and the people are going to be I think patient.
As long as we're getting new and previously undisclosed documents
(02:38):
and other information as well as possibly hard, hard evidence,
I think they'll be patient. So that's how that's going
to go. And let me say something as clearly as
I can. The head of state that ends this embargo
will get one of the greatest political legacies of all
time period.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
They will build status choose, okay, but we will.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We will as soon as we enter the post disclosure
where other heads of state are going to jump in.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Quickly.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You're not going to sit back and uh and act
like act dumb, play dead and dumb. No, no, no,
They're gonna be in there, and it's gonna be a global matter.
You'll have shortly after disclosure takes place, whoever the head
of state starts it, you'll have them getting together, holding conferences.
The un will be brought into play, and you'll be
seeing a lot of this happening as it will be
a global engagement it has to be.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That will have much how much in your opinion, Stephen,
will they tell us or will they still hold back?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I ultimately they are going to tell us everything. They
have no choice.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The pressure on the entire structure and all the information managers,
and it will be astronomical after disclosure, and the Disclosure
Act was designed to create a responsible way.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
To do this.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It doesn't really include much push for those that want
to play foot seet with this. And if any entity,
kind of a rogue entity that's got some big underground
facilities somewhere that nobody even in the government knows where
the hell they are, they decide to see if they
can stick it out, they're probably gonna end up in jail.
(04:18):
Disclosure is a transformative event. It's not business as usual.
And again because of the Internet, because of the importance
of the issue, the pressure, it won't be a few
million people, It'll be a few billion people demanding not
only information from the US, but for every of the
country that may have any all of the nuclear nations,
most of the developed nations. Those government are going to
(04:40):
be enormous pressure get something, get it out there, and
they will.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
They'll actually start competing.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think, with each other to see who can come
up with the coolest thing you know this week or
this month. It's going to be spectacular, as George, and
I promise I'm still willing to come on the show
after you're not.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Going to be.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You will be on. Is it conceivable, Old Stephen, How
will they address the subject of why they did not
tell us anything for so many years? Will they address that?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Absolutely? National security?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
You'll hear it over and over again, and people now
don't quite get the national security connection.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But if you can take yourself back in time.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Read a little history, Read the incredible book The Making
of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhoades, a masterpiece, Pull
a surprise book, national bookwork, take yourself back to nineteen
forty seven, in nineteen fifty three, and you can understand
why this issue was treated at the highest level of
national security. And if we hadn't developed a full blown
(05:49):
cold war and a nuclear arms race, it might have
come out sooner. But every additional nuclear weapon that was
added to the pile, which eventually peaked out around eighty
five thousand in the mid eighties, the justification, national security
justification for continuing to keep this embargo in place was there.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And we've had plenty of wars and other things.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So it will be national security, and most of the
American people, particularly the millennials, will go okay, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Hey, it's okay. As long as we get to the truth,
we move forward.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Those that want to go back in the past and
legislator litigate the whole damn thing, and they're welcome to it.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I'm not interested.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Might they address the alien abduction phenomenon?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh yeah, and that will be one of the more
difficult post disclosure situations. It's not in play, and the
legislator the congressional process. I don't think anybody should be
shocked by that. But they're not totally being left alone.
I talk about the contact all the time in the
same context I'm talking about the political developments. Are the
(06:56):
members of Congress aware of it? You bet they are,
But they understand that the basis for moving forward, disclosure,
national security, and trusting government, what have you, is sufficient
to get the job done. Trying to bring in the
entire contact phenomena, which is extraordinarily complex and very unsettling
(07:19):
at some degrees, is just too much, they're asked, and
so they have to wait.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
But once disclosure takes place.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I assure you there will be hearings of researchers and
contact ease on the hill and contact. These will be
coming forward by the hundreds of thousands, maybe even forming
political entities in order to address their concerns and what
have you, and they will get an enormous amount of
(07:48):
attention in the post disclosure world. Positive I believe in
well deserved and their patience is certainly appreciated.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Are you excited about the possibilities?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Oh my god, I just wish I could you know,
do one of those what do they call it forward
and back or whatever whatever?
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Thirty years?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, because backflips, yeah whatever. The next twenty thirty years
are going to be off the charts. So the millennials
of gen zs are going to have hell of a ride.
It's going to be complicated, and to the extent that
they can get on board and start paying attention to
this would be helpful for them.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But wor you think the world is changing fast now?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, and so I can't even predict what things are
going to look like in twenty years. But the early
years of the post disclosure world, let's go go to
the next five to six off the charts, it's going
to be the greatest streaming series of all time. And
I then stick around to get at least three or
four seasons.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Will it be a United Nations announcement or a United
States announcement?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
United Nations is not in a position to do this.
It's not It needs major reform, so no a single
country will go first. And at this point, the US
is in the lead. However, as I've said for I
don't know several thousand times over the last twenty eight years,
you know, dear DoD Unless Vladimir Putin and Hi Jingping
(09:18):
are getting a regular paycheck from you in a you know,
a W two form, they can do it tomorrow, in
which case your second best So is that okay?
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Are you okay with that?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But maybe they know something I don't know, And there's
other heads of state that could do it, but our
friends and allies don't want to cut in line.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
But right now we are clearly set to get this done,
and our president could do it tomorrow. But there's plenty
of platform that's already been built. I was hoping they
might have a few more heroes.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
We don't need them.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
There's enough President could walk out tomorrow and say yeah,
there's non human tech here, non human presence, and people
are going yeah, yeah, I sort of thought that to president,
and then well then the post disclosure world begins. So
that's why I'm extremely up. Now, this is subject to
international developments. As you know, there's been a bit of
(10:13):
how would you say, kerfuffle's going on, missiles flying here, there,
ships being sunk. God, no, if that intensifies or something
new turns up, it could delay it. So that's always
a possibility, probably more likely than not. On the other hand,
and I've made this case many times, if you'd like
to reduce the number of these things that have been
(10:35):
happening that they're so upsetting and depressing, get disclosure done.
It may be that in the post disclosure world will
have less of that as the entire planet in all
two hundred countries redesign or reposition their telescopes, you might say,
their attention to a much broader and a different world.
(10:58):
And so in a set we got nothing to lose,
It can't get worse, and so disclosure may be the
answer to that. But until we get disclosure, yeah, something's
going to happen. Somebody's going to invade something, low up something.
The next thing you.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Know, we're embroiled in that.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
But barring anything really bad, and I say that carefully again,
the stage is set the President of the United States
to end the truth in bargo being done, and then
we'll see what happens after that.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I remember back in two thousand and one, you were
working on a hearing with Steven Greer and then nine
to eleven happened. So my question that was.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Career Agreer produced that that was totally his event machine
was helping me.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
But yeah, May nine, two thousand and one, I was there,
was it was a very major event.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Is it conceivable that more major events will occur to
delay the announcement?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, no, Well because they happen. I mean, this is
a very dangerous, complex world. It's not being managed well,
and we're not fixing things. We're not reforming. We haven't
address some of the fundamental issues that are creating hell
on this planet, which is one of the reasons we
need disclosure. Some people think that some of these things
are deliberately happening, being made to happen in order to
(12:17):
prevent disclosure.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I have no no confidence in that. I don't think
that's the case at all, whether.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's ninety one one or the invasion of this country,
the odd pandemic, whatever the hell. At least we haven't
got a massive metior you know, coming that would definitely
delay it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
But it's a dangerous world.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
So it's a you know, it's kind of an interesting
dilemma in a sense. It's kind of a catch twenty two.
We constantly have catastrophes and bad things happening because of
bad judgment and bad politics that prevents disclosure, But disclosure
could very well set us in a path to get
away from that, and so it's a catch twenty two,
(12:56):
and it's like the Gordian knot.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Let's just take out the sword galaxy that it is.
That dilemma.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
That is one of the reasons why seventy eight years
after Roswell we still haven't gotten disclosure, and even thirty
five years since the end of the Soviet Union, which
really kind of opened a major opportunity, we still haven't
(13:24):
gotten it.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Because it is a Gordian knot a formidable design.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
What would our friend, the late Apalla fourteen astronaut edgar
Mitchell be seen right about now?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
I wish he was here for this. I really too.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
There's a number of people that didn't make it, and
it pains me every time lose one. But he would
be I hope gracious in victory, and I invite everybody
else to be the same. No, just chill and relax
and wait for the phone calls to come to you
(14:04):
and go.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Yeah, well thanks for calling.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. Now, it's been a long road and I'm so
glad the truth has come out. I look forward to,
you know, the post disclosure world. Let's let's see what
kind of things can happen. A lot of new possibilities.
By the way, Uh, get back to the briefing on
May first.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Galadet went on again about the USOS, which is a.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Very big deal, right uh more, and he is so
so strong, so authentic, and that was very important.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
There is talk about, uh.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
The number of there's a number of initiatives involved in
trying to get craft more legislation to protect witnesses and
with whistleblowers, not the same thing that you could have
an ominous bill.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
But there was somebody there that caught my attention, an amazing,
extraordinary woman by the name of Anna Brady as debts.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
So who's she I really had not heard of her before,
and she went on for a great length of time.
She has multiple degrees, including you O, PhD. And she's
been involved in a whole range of I think some
government some uh you know, off government UH engagements regarding
(15:25):
tech development UH and helping companies to get funding and
so forth. A lots of companies that have achieved enormous wealth,
enormous UH value in the trileance UH. And she referred
to she made a phrase I'd never heard before. She said,
they're looking at UAP adjacent technology UAP adjacent technology. And
(15:51):
the message that I got from her, and she's by
the way, based in the Washington area, is that there
has been some companies that have somehow because of this
whole reality that we've been dealing with, that have gotten
some tech things going and that has been funded that
many of these I guess you could say venture operations
(16:13):
and and and and company funders are aware of this.
They're aware that many of these companies like the Lockheeds
and so.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Forth, have got this tech and they want to fund it.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
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