June 4, 2025 • 18 mins
George Noory and author Lindsay Stanton explore her techniques for transforming grief from the death of a loved one into deep healing, how she recovered herself from the unexpected deaths of her husband and best friend, and the importance of dreams in connecting and communicating with dead loved ones.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to George Nori with you. Lindsey Stanton with Us.
An author, her book is called The Enduring and Everlasting
and she's also a connectionist. She is a certified coach
as well as a Reiki master. Lindsey helps others grow
their connection with the other side to assist in their
daily lives. Lindsay, welcome to the show. First time for you,
(00:25):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Looking forward to this. Is it safe to assume that
most people have experienced grief?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yes? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I think in our society, whether it's physical loss or
the loss of something you envisioned to be that just
didn't come to fruish.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I think we've all experienced some type of loss.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And some of us can handle it better than others.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Right, that's true, and some of us have the tools
to handle it better than others.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
There's a saying when people have overwhelmed or baffled, they
go good grief. Why do they say that? What's so
good about grief?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I think that grief and trauma actually can take us
to a new place in growth and expansion of our soul.
I do believe that when we go through hard things,
whether it's grief, trauma, or both, that there is a
purpose to it and it does help us grow, expand
(01:25):
and recognize more deeply what's available to us beyond this
material world.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Did you go through grief yourself? Yes, what happened?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So in twenty twenty, my husband was diagnosed with ALS
and it was very fast moving and within a year
of diagnosis he passed. He was in hospice for a
while before he passed, and so that was huge in
(01:59):
and of itself. That was life changing for me. And
then seven months to the day after his passing, my
closest female friend passed unexpectedly as well. And there is
a uniqueness to when we experience grief in multitudes like that,
it definitely impacts our ability to process even the initial
(02:22):
grief and oftentimes the secondary grief. We have to our
physical bodies and our minds actually protect us, and so
we kind of have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Them in layers.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And so those listening, if you've received multiple levels of
grief over the years, you might notice that you have
a delayed response, especially to those like secondary or even
you know when you're receiving like third fourth times. Because
I know I work with clients who have had a
lot of different losses in their life, it takes us
(02:54):
a little it takes us longer to process, and grief
never goes It's always with us, whether you know it's
super heavy, or it's you know, not as heavy, or
sometimes it comes in waves. But the one thing I
think is a bit of a misnomer of our society
is that there's like some magic pill or that grief
(03:17):
goes away, or there's some time limit to grief.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I wish that we were more.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Having a conversation as a culture that that's not even
the expectation we should put on people. Their lives are
now forever changed, especially if they lost somebody who impacts
their daily life. And I think once we can normalize that,
it helps eliminate a lot of the overwhelm that people
can have. Is a grief experience with that kind of
(03:44):
layers on and makes grief even tougher.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I've lost a father, a sister, and a couple of
dear friends over the past several years, and I found
the lindsay that the grief hits when you dwell on it.
But when you keep busy with other activities, whether it's
your job and your other family and things like that,
it doesn't seem to hit you as hard. What do
(04:09):
you think of that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think that that can be good and bad.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think that sometimes we can distract ourselves and not
go through the natural cycles that our body's meant to,
and then it can release in really big ways. The
more we can kind of allow those natural cycles, like
it is completely normal to cry.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Our bodies actually set up to.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Allow emotion to flow for ninety seconds and then then
it's done, Like then it's processed that emotion. But if
we repress it in the moment, then that's when we
can have like really big reactions to things, whether it's anger, crying,
just kind of more intense.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Reactions to things.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And so if we can allow those more natural flow
of emotion, those ninety second flows of emotion and cry,
even when it it might not be that convenient to
be crying, it actually helps us heal and process a
lot more effectively than if we repress or distract ourselves
too much. I hear you, because I think there is
value in some distraction and some you know, just keeping
(05:17):
yourself busy, especially early days when you just are what
I would describe as like in that zombie phase. But
I think that there's a time and place for busyness,
and then there's also a time and place for going
within and listening to what your body is telling you
and allowing that to kind of naturally occur.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, it does. But it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It is not easy, and being a human is not easy.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
How did als finally take your husband?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Well, if you are familiar with the disease at all,
if anybody listening is familiar, So it is basically, it
causes the muscles to deteriorate, and ultimately it goes to
your lungs and starts to deteriorate your lungs, so it
impacts your breathing and actually your even your digestion. So
(06:10):
it gets to the point where you have to be
on you know, breathing device, you have to have a
feeding tube. And he was extremely proud, extremely athletic, and
that was not for him, and so that was ultimately
what made him make the decision to go into hospice.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's what they call it is, yes, and it hit
him quickly.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yes, very by the time, so I think because he
was so athletic, he his body hid it very well
and by the time he got diagnosed, which anybody who's
been through it, the ALUs journey is a challenging one,
not just when your person has it full blown, but
also when you're in those days of trying to get diagnosed.
(06:59):
There's no real specific tests just for ail us, so
it's more of an art of ruling everything else out,
so it can take some time. And it took about
a year for us to get a diagnosis, and then
about a year after the diagnosis is when he passed.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I now understand it was part of my soul's journey,
but thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Can loved ones visit us in dreams?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Absolutely, Our dreams are actually the easiest pathway because our
egoic mind, with all of the distracting thoughts that we
get hit with throughout the day, is offline when we're sleeping,
and so we're much easier to reach.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Interesting take now, have you had dreams of your husband?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I have had so many dream visits with my husband
over so he passed four years ago. Now a little
over four years ago now, and I would say it's
unusual for me to go two weeks and not have
a visit from him.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Does it comfort you very much? Had you not had
the dreams, how would you react?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think it would be a lot more difficult.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And it's not even just the dreams, but all the
signs and communication I've received from him, even beyond just
dream visits. It there is a complete shift in your
grief when you realize that there's not a permanence to
your lack of ability to connect with the person.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They're still available to us.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I believe, and I've experienced that we are all energy
and that energy never dies, and so because of that,
it allows us to shift our thinking and realize that
the person's not gone, They're just available to us in
a different way.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
By connecting with the other side. Does that minimize grief?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I believe it does.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is that a technique you teach it?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Absolutely is.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I help my clients to understand that they don't have
to be psychic or mediums to be able to do
this on their own.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
This is available to all of us. It's just.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Knowing how to interpret the signs, and they don't. I
mean Ultimately, my purpose is to help them fish for themselves.
As they say, I'm just their guide to help them
understand what they're already getting. It's kind of funny because
people will come to me and they'll say, like, Oh,
I don't know, you know, if I'm getting a lot
(09:39):
of signs, or I don't know if I'm getting a
lot of dream visits. And then we start working together
and we start having the conversations and they start realizing
all the things that they're already getting, and so much
of it it's about helping them tap into trust and recognition.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Do the signs come to us from the departed or
what makes that happen?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Absolutely, so we get signs from our loved ones. On
the other side, we also, once we make ourselves available
to receive, we can get signs and information from the
angelic realm. I'm careful about what wording I use because
I know different wording resonates with different people. But you
can tap into the energy of God Source. You can
(10:25):
get messages from God and Source, and especially I think
if you've been through deep grief and trauma, those messages
can be really really important to keeping you planted here
and helping you understand your purpose here, which often makes
us want to stay because let's be real, with grief,
(10:45):
we can definitely slip into suicidal ideation, and so having
those connections to the spirit realm can really help us
not only heal, but help us be more grounded in
our purpose here on earth.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Does grief affect us in different ways based on the
person who died? For example, like I mentioned my father
and my sister and then my friends, and I really think,
lindsay that if something would happen to my children, it
would it would destroy me even harder. Does the Does
the person matter?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
And I think you know the people that impact our
every day and actually not even just people, but animals
as well, So the people that you're interacting with every
single day, I think that brings another nuance to the
grief that you know, maybe distant relatives like you know, aunts, uncles,
(11:42):
grandparents that you don't connect with us frequently. Now for
different people, those relationships can look different. So you know,
if you're talking to an aunt or grandparent every single day,
that can have a tremendous impact. It is very much,
I would say, and I think that's the part of
the challenge with our culture is there's no cookie cutter
(12:03):
answer with what is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
When you're grieving.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You can't prepare for grief as much as people might
try to, and there's no cookie cut or answer with
what you should do. But it's learning and tapping into
what your body is telling you because our bodies hold
so much information and actually our bodies can hold the
information that helps us be a conduit to receive those
(12:29):
messages from the other side. But you're absolutely right. I mean,
I'm in community. I'm in a phenomenal group that I
would highly recommend for anybody dealing with grief called the
Forever Family Foundation. They're a nonprofit. They're absolutely beautiful. They
put on retreats for those grieving. And one of the
things I think really helps people in grief is being
(12:49):
with being with other people who understand you, not having
to explain what you're going through, but being with a
community of people that understand you.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So whether it's going to retreat.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Or being in you know, an online community, that is
like such a game changer in processing and being feeling
supported and feeling like you're in a safe space because
sometimes people that haven't been through grief, just don't even
know what to say to you in most cases.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Why does time heal grief?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'm not sure. I feel that it does not on
its own, at least. I mean, I think there's a
change in grief as time goes by. But I think
it does really require us to do some work in
order to have time help us heal. I think ignoring
it is not the answer, but in conjunction with doing
(13:42):
some you know, using tools, using modalities that help you heal.
I think time can shift the way that grief looks
for you. I think that we need to normalize the
expectation that you might forever have, you know, times where
you break down. You might You're always going to have
times where you wish that person was there, you know,
(14:05):
like whether if your father passed and it's your wedding
day and they're not there, like you expect to have
grief over that. I mean, so for some people, certain
holidays are deep triggers. We're always going to have that,
and I think normalizing that helps people feel less alone.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Every time you hear a certain song, I think of
one of my buddies that passed away. Now, I've always
wondered lindsay, if he's the one sending me the song
or whether it just as a fluke it pops up.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, well, I would say tune into when you're noticing
that song, because my deep intuitive guess is that you
are getting a sign. And oftentimes when we tune into
when we're getting those you know, messages and songs are
a great one. That's a perfect example because the technology
(14:59):
is an easy energy for them to manipulate. So that's
why you see oftentimes like signs might be animals that fly,
whether it's birds, insects, butterflies, dragonflies, those are easy to
manipulate as well as electronic waves, so songs electric like
your phone, your TV, those are things that are easier
(15:21):
for them to use.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
To send us signs.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
But pay attention and tap in, and I would invite
your listeners to do this as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Tune into when you're getting that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So if it's before a big life event, a decision
that you're making, or if it's you know, you just
got done thinking of the person, or there's an anniversary
or birthday coming up, then you'd like and trust your
body's reactions. So for me personally, I noticed early on when.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I was getting signs.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I would have like a chill sensation and like goosebumps
across my body at the same time as the sign
came through, and that was just validation for me. That
was that was a sign from Roger and my husband.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Is it normal not to grieve over the loss of somebody.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yes, And I think we just need to normalize that
everybody has reactions to grief differently.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, that's a great point, great question. You might not
have a huge reaction.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And again it goes back to that if they weren't
influential and part of the fabric of your day to
day life, you might not find yourself in deep sadness.
And we don't need to feel bad about not feeling
a certain type of way, whether it's being overwhelmed by
grief or not, you know, not experiencing deep sadness at all.
(16:45):
Grief is unique, it's our fingerprint, it is It is
definitely unique, and we need to normalize that it is
going to look different for everyone, and that is okay.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Dreams seemed to be an important fashion in what you do.
How come.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I think just because it's the path of least resistance,
we can we get so overwhelmed by so many distractions
in this physical world, so dreams are just a very
easy pathway. And also because we're so limited in the
in this dimension, if you will, and our five senses
(17:25):
as humans, the spirit realm has available to it like
unlimited ways of communicating, and you know, like telepath that
communication is going to happen during dream visits, it also
will happen during the waking life. So when we get
dream visits, there are so many hidden messages symbolized messages
(17:47):
within those dreams that I oftentimes help clients unpack because
not only do they often relate to messages that their
loved ones are trying to send them, but it also
goes to their what I would call their why. So
we go through grief and trauma, and as hard as
it is to think that there's a reason behind it,
(18:09):
there is a reason behind it. And oftentimes what I'm
working with clients, I'm doing is not only helping them connect,
but understanding the why, because that shifts their grief immensely
as well, because now they understand that there's a purpose
behind it, and many times they might actually end up
being healers. And that's why they've had to go on
this journey because we can't authentically help other people who
(18:32):
are suffering if we haven't been through it ourselves. And
so oftentimes those keys to how they're meant to help
others heal lie within the messages that they're getting in
their dreams.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to George Nori with you. Lindsey Stanton with Us.
An author, her book is called The Enduring and Everlasting
and she's also a connectionist. She is a certified coach
as well as a Reiki master. Lindsey helps others grow
their connection with the other side to assist in their
daily lives. Lindsay, welcome to the show. First time for you,
(00:25):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Looking forward to this. Is it safe to assume that
most people have experienced grief?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yes? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I think in our society, whether it's physical loss or
the loss of something you envisioned to be that just
didn't come to fruish.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I think we've all experienced some type of loss.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And some of us can handle it better than others.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Right, that's true, and some of us have the tools
to handle it better than others.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
There's a saying when people have overwhelmed or baffled, they
go good grief. Why do they say that? What's so
good about grief?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I think that grief and trauma actually can take us
to a new place in growth and expansion of our soul.
I do believe that when we go through hard things,
whether it's grief, trauma, or both, that there is a
purpose to it and it does help us grow, expand
(01:25):
and recognize more deeply what's available to us beyond this
material world.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Did you go through grief yourself? Yes, what happened?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So in twenty twenty, my husband was diagnosed with ALS
and it was very fast moving and within a year
of diagnosis he passed. He was in hospice for a
while before he passed, and so that was huge in
(01:59):
and of itself. That was life changing for me. And
then seven months to the day after his passing, my
closest female friend passed unexpectedly as well. And there is
a uniqueness to when we experience grief in multitudes like that,
it definitely impacts our ability to process even the initial
(02:22):
grief and oftentimes the secondary grief. We have to our
physical bodies and our minds actually protect us, and so
we kind of have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Them in layers.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
And so those listening, if you've received multiple levels of
grief over the years, you might notice that you have
a delayed response, especially to those like secondary or even
you know when you're receiving like third fourth times. Because
I know I work with clients who have had a
lot of different losses in their life, it takes us
(02:54):
a little it takes us longer to process, and grief
never goes It's always with us, whether you know it's
super heavy, or it's you know, not as heavy, or
sometimes it comes in waves. But the one thing I
think is a bit of a misnomer of our society
is that there's like some magic pill or that grief
(03:17):
goes away, or there's some time limit to grief.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I wish that we were more.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Having a conversation as a culture that that's not even
the expectation we should put on people. Their lives are
now forever changed, especially if they lost somebody who impacts
their daily life. And I think once we can normalize that,
it helps eliminate a lot of the overwhelm that people
can have. Is a grief experience with that kind of
(03:44):
layers on and makes grief even tougher.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I've lost a father, a sister, and a couple of
dear friends over the past several years, and I found
the lindsay that the grief hits when you dwell on it.
But when you keep busy with other activities, whether it's
your job and your other family and things like that,
it doesn't seem to hit you as hard. What do
(04:09):
you think of that?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think that that can be good and bad.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I think that sometimes we can distract ourselves and not
go through the natural cycles that our body's meant to,
and then it can release in really big ways. The
more we can kind of allow those natural cycles, like
it is completely normal to cry.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Our bodies actually set up to.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Allow emotion to flow for ninety seconds and then then
it's done, Like then it's processed that emotion. But if
we repress it in the moment, then that's when we
can have like really big reactions to things, whether it's anger, crying,
just kind of more intense.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Reactions to things.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
And so if we can allow those more natural flow
of emotion, those ninety second flows of emotion and cry,
even when it it might not be that convenient to
be crying, it actually helps us heal and process a
lot more effectively than if we repress or distract ourselves
too much. I hear you, because I think there is
value in some distraction and some you know, just keeping
(05:17):
yourself busy, especially early days when you just are what
I would describe as like in that zombie phase. But
I think that there's a time and place for busyness,
and then there's also a time and place for going
within and listening to what your body is telling you
and allowing that to kind of naturally occur.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, it does. But it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It is not easy, and being a human is not easy.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
How did als finally take your husband?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Well, if you are familiar with the disease at all,
if anybody listening is familiar, So it is basically, it
causes the muscles to deteriorate, and ultimately it goes to
your lungs and starts to deteriorate your lungs, so it
impacts your breathing and actually your even your digestion. So
(06:10):
it gets to the point where you have to be
on you know, breathing device, you have to have a
feeding tube. And he was extremely proud, extremely athletic, and
that was not for him, and so that was ultimately
what made him make the decision to go into hospice.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's what they call it is, yes, and it hit
him quickly.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yes, very by the time, so I think because he
was so athletic, he his body hid it very well
and by the time he got diagnosed, which anybody who's
been through it, the ALUs journey is a challenging one,
not just when your person has it full blown, but
also when you're in those days of trying to get diagnosed.
(06:59):
There's no real specific tests just for ail us, so
it's more of an art of ruling everything else out,
so it can take some time. And it took about
a year for us to get a diagnosis, and then
about a year after the diagnosis is when he passed.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I now understand it was part of my soul's journey,
but thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Can loved ones visit us in dreams?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Absolutely, Our dreams are actually the easiest pathway because our
egoic mind, with all of the distracting thoughts that we
get hit with throughout the day, is offline when we're sleeping,
and so we're much easier to reach.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Interesting take now, have you had dreams of your husband?
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I have had so many dream visits with my husband
over so he passed four years ago. Now a little
over four years ago now, and I would say it's
unusual for me to go two weeks and not have
a visit from him.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Does it comfort you very much? Had you not had
the dreams, how would you react?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think it would be a lot more difficult.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And it's not even just the dreams, but all the
signs and communication I've received from him, even beyond just
dream visits. It there is a complete shift in your
grief when you realize that there's not a permanence to
your lack of ability to connect with the person.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They're still available to us.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I believe, and I've experienced that we are all energy
and that energy never dies, and so because of that,
it allows us to shift our thinking and realize that
the person's not gone, They're just available to us in
a different way.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
By connecting with the other side. Does that minimize grief?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I believe it does.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Is that a technique you teach it?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Absolutely is.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I help my clients to understand that they don't have
to be psychic or mediums to be able to do
this on their own.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
This is available to all of us. It's just.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Knowing how to interpret the signs, and they don't. I
mean Ultimately, my purpose is to help them fish for themselves.
As they say, I'm just their guide to help them
understand what they're already getting. It's kind of funny because
people will come to me and they'll say, like, Oh,
I don't know, you know, if I'm getting a lot
(09:39):
of signs, or I don't know if I'm getting a
lot of dream visits. And then we start working together
and we start having the conversations and they start realizing
all the things that they're already getting, and so much
of it it's about helping them tap into trust and recognition.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Do the signs come to us from the departed or
what makes that happen?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Absolutely, so we get signs from our loved ones. On
the other side, we also, once we make ourselves available
to receive, we can get signs and information from the
angelic realm. I'm careful about what wording I use because
I know different wording resonates with different people. But you
can tap into the energy of God Source. You can
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get messages from God and Source, and especially I think
if you've been through deep grief and trauma, those messages
can be really really important to keeping you planted here
and helping you understand your purpose here, which often makes
us want to stay because let's be real, with grief,
(10:45):
we can definitely slip into suicidal ideation, and so having
those connections to the spirit realm can really help us
not only heal, but help us be more grounded in
our purpose here on earth.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Does grief affect us in different ways based on the
person who died? For example, like I mentioned my father
and my sister and then my friends, and I really think,
lindsay that if something would happen to my children, it
would it would destroy me even harder. Does the Does
the person matter?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
And I think you know the people that impact our
every day and actually not even just people, but animals
as well, So the people that you're interacting with every
single day, I think that brings another nuance to the
grief that you know, maybe distant relatives like you know, aunts, uncles,
(11:42):
grandparents that you don't connect with us frequently. Now for
different people, those relationships can look different. So you know,
if you're talking to an aunt or grandparent every single day,
that can have a tremendous impact. It is very much,
I would say, and I think that's the part of
the challenge with our culture is there's no cookie cutter
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answer with what is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
When you're grieving.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You can't prepare for grief as much as people might
try to, and there's no cookie cut or answer with
what you should do. But it's learning and tapping into
what your body is telling you because our bodies hold
so much information and actually our bodies can hold the
information that helps us be a conduit to receive those
(12:29):
messages from the other side. But you're absolutely right. I mean,
I'm in community. I'm in a phenomenal group that I
would highly recommend for anybody dealing with grief called the
Forever Family Foundation. They're a nonprofit. They're absolutely beautiful. They
put on retreats for those grieving. And one of the
things I think really helps people in grief is being
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with being with other people who understand you, not having
to explain what you're going through, but being with a
community of people that understand you.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
So whether it's going to retreat.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Or being in you know, an online community, that is
like such a game changer in processing and being feeling
supported and feeling like you're in a safe space because
sometimes people that haven't been through grief, just don't even
know what to say to you in most cases.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Why does time heal grief?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'm not sure. I feel that it does not on
its own, at least. I mean, I think there's a
change in grief as time goes by. But I think
it does really require us to do some work in
order to have time help us heal. I think ignoring
it is not the answer, but in conjunction with doing
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some you know, using tools, using modalities that help you heal.
I think time can shift the way that grief looks
for you. I think that we need to normalize the
expectation that you might forever have, you know, times where
you break down. You might You're always going to have
times where you wish that person was there, you know,
(14:05):
like whether if your father passed and it's your wedding
day and they're not there, like you expect to have
grief over that. I mean, so for some people, certain
holidays are deep triggers. We're always going to have that,
and I think normalizing that helps people feel less alone.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Every time you hear a certain song, I think of
one of my buddies that passed away. Now, I've always
wondered lindsay, if he's the one sending me the song
or whether it just as a fluke it pops up.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, well, I would say tune into when you're noticing
that song, because my deep intuitive guess is that you
are getting a sign. And oftentimes when we tune into
when we're getting those you know, messages and songs are
a great one. That's a perfect example because the technology
(14:59):
is an easy energy for them to manipulate. So that's
why you see oftentimes like signs might be animals that fly,
whether it's birds, insects, butterflies, dragonflies, those are easy to
manipulate as well as electronic waves, so songs electric like
your phone, your TV, those are things that are easier
(15:21):
for them to use.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
To send us signs.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
But pay attention and tap in, and I would invite
your listeners to do this as well.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Tune into when you're getting that.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So if it's before a big life event, a decision
that you're making, or if it's you know, you just
got done thinking of the person, or there's an anniversary
or birthday coming up, then you'd like and trust your
body's reactions. So for me personally, I noticed early on when.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I was getting signs.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I would have like a chill sensation and like goosebumps
across my body at the same time as the sign
came through, and that was just validation for me. That
was that was a sign from Roger and my husband.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Is it normal not to grieve over the loss of somebody.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yes, And I think we just need to normalize that
everybody has reactions to grief differently.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, that's a great point, great question. You might not
have a huge reaction.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And again it goes back to that if they weren't
influential and part of the fabric of your day to
day life, you might not find yourself in deep sadness.
And we don't need to feel bad about not feeling
a certain type of way, whether it's being overwhelmed by
grief or not, you know, not experiencing deep sadness at all.
(16:45):
Grief is unique, it's our fingerprint, it is It is
definitely unique, and we need to normalize that it is
going to look different for everyone, and that is okay.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Dreams seemed to be an important fashion in what you do.
How come.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I think just because it's the path of least resistance,
we can we get so overwhelmed by so many distractions
in this physical world, so dreams are just a very
easy pathway. And also because we're so limited in the
in this dimension, if you will, and our five senses
(17:25):
as humans, the spirit realm has available to it like
unlimited ways of communicating, and you know, like telepath that
communication is going to happen during dream visits, it also
will happen during the waking life. So when we get
dream visits, there are so many hidden messages symbolized messages
(17:47):
within those dreams that I oftentimes help clients unpack because
not only do they often relate to messages that their
loved ones are trying to send them, but it also
goes to their what I would call their why. So
we go through grief and trauma, and as hard as
it is to think that there's a reason behind it,
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there is a reason behind it. And oftentimes what I'm
working with clients, I'm doing is not only helping them connect,
but understanding the why, because that shifts their grief immensely
as well, because now they understand that there's a purpose
behind it, and many times they might actually end up
being healers. And that's why they've had to go on
this journey because we can't authentically help other people who
(18:32):
are suffering if we haven't been through it ourselves. And
so oftentimes those keys to how they're meant to help
others heal lie within the messages that they're getting in
their dreams.
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