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Now here's a highlight. From Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.
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And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Spiritual and energy healer over Niv was born and raised
in Israel, served as an army commander in the Israeli
Army well for studied philosophy and math at the Hebrew
University before moving to the US. He explores the subtle
ways the various realms of existence work His book is
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called From Shadows to Light. Oh for welcome to the program.
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Thank you, George, great to be here, looking forward to this.
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Our dear friend Uri Geller is still out there in Israel.
Have you ever met him.
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I've met him as an audience as part of an
audience that was many years ago.
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Yeah, good guy, good guy.
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Oh yeah great. Hey.
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What was it like being in the Israeli Army. They're
great soldiers.
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It was fun.
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I've served as a first as a you know, as
a soldier, then as an officer company commander and I.
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And I you know, I can't say that I.
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Enjoyed it, but it was probably one of the most
significant life experiences.
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Definitely teaches you how to rely on others.
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And how to trust others because you have no other choice.
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Who was the Israeli leader at the time, was it began?
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No, it was Golda.
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Yeah, she was one and she was one of a
kind too, wasn't she.
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Oh? She she is a she is a she is
a strong, strong leader. That's great.
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Tell us about you. You you you had a diagnosis
of multiple sclerosis. What happened?
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So I've been I've been in Israel. Then I moved
to the US, and that was probably about forty years ago.
And uh, I worked in the corporate world. I worked
for Wells Fargo, to be honest, a big bank, and
I was in a leadership position. And I worked there
many years, a lot of stress, a lot of deadlines,
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a lot of just competition and not much sleep until
I started to have tingling that I was diagnosed eventually
with multiple sclerosis. I was given the verdict. I was
told that it was not going to go away, that
it was going to deteriorate, it was going to get
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more and more serious for me, that life.
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Is going to be shorter.
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And I just don't like to accept these kind of dictates,
And so I started to listen to all sorts of
spiritual teachings, which was not part of.
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My vocabulary before.
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That was in twenty eleven, and so it took sever
several years. I got myself on completely another journey, spiritual journey.
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Eventually I stopped working for.
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The bank, and I can tell you that today I
don't consider myself having MS anymore. I'm no longer on
any medication for the last five years. I don't need
to get my annual MRIs anymore.
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So I'm done.
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And you know that this was because of these different
way of looking at life that I had to do,
because there was no other choice for me over.
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Our doctors mystified by what has happened with you.
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I don't think that doctors are mystified, or at least
they don't show it outwardly.
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But yeah, I mean, let's put it this way.
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My doctor doesn't ask me, doesn't want to know anything
about what happened.
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It just doesn't want to ask questions.
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Was it this incredible change that got you into the
spiritual direction you're in now?
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It was.
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It was a very significant change for me because it
was a very normal life and what I learned doing
you know, for example, a year long a year long
sort of a class, a spiritual class, is that what
you see with your five census is not even a
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it's not even a.
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Small part of what's out there. It's a tiny part.
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I also learned a very important lesson that I was
not fundamentally broken, and therefore I needed I.
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Did not need fixing.
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You know, maybe that was the most fundamental lesson that
I had to learn that.
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At a very deep way, you are never broken.
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You don't start and stop and you don't and you
know you don't need somebody to fix you. But but
all this information that I was holding inside of me,
I had to change the way I viewed this information.
And when I let this information be viewed from another
point of view, everything started to change. I mean, I
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didn't have to hold on to a body condition anymore
like it was when I was diagnosed.
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What is it over about this combination of energy healing
and spiritual healing that makes it work?
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Why?
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I believe it's because what.
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Makes this body function in the first place is not
that there is you know that there is this machine
that is supposed to work, but that there is this
soul or spirit that are calling. And because they're calling,
nature organizes all these cells and all these body parts
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that are coming together, and so you can say your
cells are here, your body is here because you called,
because your soul called, and so everything is driven differently
than what I was thinking. But because the soul and
the spirit are so strong, they create.
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I mean, that's what we are.
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We're co creating with what I call the divine And
so if you want to co create health, that's what
you do. If something if you forget who you are,
or if something becomes a distortion because we see things
in a way that is not good for us, then
it becomes a disease.
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Are you tapping into something in the universe that is
out there that someone like Jesus understood and did the same.
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I would not try to say that I'm the same
as Jesus.
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That would be.
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But I feel, I mean, I actually really enjoy a
story about how Jesus healed and it really resonates with me.
And what it was is if somebody needed a healing,
he would he would ask, He would ask the spirit
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if there is a healing for this person, and if
there was, he would then allow this healing to come
through him to the other person. If the person's spirit
was ready to receive, the person received the healing. If
the person was not ready to receive, in any case,
Jesus received the healing. So that's one of the secrets
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of healing work is if you work as a healer,
you always receive a healing as well.
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Did the sick person the injured person have to be
a believer to make it work.
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It helps.
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It certainly helps when somebody either really wants to be
so they're open.
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So openness is important.
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Believing not as much, because you know, belief, there's so
much about belief that becomes a block, energetic block. I mean,
all these what I call limiting beliefs, you know, believes
that we're not worthy, that we're not we're not good enough,
that we're not lovable, becoming really uh.
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Stop like like a block in our way to heal.
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But being open, being willing to surrender what we what,
what are our ego wants? I think that's a big step.
And for me, becoming open was probably the biggest challenge.
Probably is still to some degree a challenge because because
you know, all these ears have been very left brain,
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very engineering kind of mind, and uh, and I didn't
want to believe what my eyes couldn't see.
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But that's that's the key.
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So it's not so much you know, but believing you know,
there is the placebo effect. It has proven been proven
over and over and if you believe it will it
will help.
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It will certainly work.
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You have something that is called the elk chemical flame.
What is that?
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The alchemical flame is what happened after I was so
after going through the process of self healing, I decided
that I really needs to understand what just happened and
then starts to help others.
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Was like, enough about me, and.
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So I studied with a shamanic healer and I then
started to practice, and eventually I started to ask, so
what is it that I'm actually doing? How do I
help people? And then I developed out of that this process.
So it was not a process that was just you know,
this is how I want it to be. It's really
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describing what I actually had been doing for years. And
it has five realms what I call realms that I
walk with a client through, not necessarily through five, but
most problems fall.
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Into one of them.
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So, for example, you have the heart that holds all
the limiting beliefs that somebody holds about themselves soul woods,
which is the biggest one is the feeling we're separate,
like we're abandoned, like there's nobody out there that that
knows about us, or that cares about us, or that
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supports us. And and also all the feelings there that
are like low frequencies that are bringing us.
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Down, like grief, sadness, depression. So this I work in
the heart realm.
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And it is it's what it takes is understanding first,
whether it's yours or somebody else's. And if it's you know,
because because we could have what I call judgments of
other people that are we're just allowing in. You know,
it could be parents or other influential people in our life.
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And these judgments, these these opinions, these influences, this what
they think about is what they tell us that we
are or are not. Comes in and it stays like
energy that becomes a block in our body. And so
I released this and we release it through hard work.
I have a technique for that. Another area of the
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chemical flame is called the shadow realm, and this is
where we look at traumas. We look at traumas that
originated from past lives, traumas that originated from the lineage,
from ancestral roots, you know, because problems go through generations
through either the genomes or the epigenomes, or simply through
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the fact that people hold to a belief and it's
just keep on going in the family. And so we're
working this and love the I love working in the
shadow realm because there are gifts in all the darkness.
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There are gifts that waits to.
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Be unfolded when you when you remove trauma, when you
because trauma. You know, it's like most animals know how
to get rid of trauma, get rid of whatever the
fight flight brought into their body.
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People don't.
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We just kind of bubble it up and keep it
in our body. And the bubbles are thin, and so
they're not really protecting us when when something similar happens,
it just gets triggered again. And so working on releasing traumas,
releasing interferences, what they sometimes call dark interferences. They can
be curses, they can be attachments, chords, these kind of things,
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releasing them from the traumas, releasing the traumas themselves. There
is another realm that I work in that is called
the magical realm, and the magical realm is kind of nice.
We're moving between times, spaces, dimensions. We're learning to create
new realities. For example, if we're talking about healing, we
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can heal the body, but from an internal body. You
can call it the astral plane. But we go or
the astral body, but we go into another plane that
is like the parallel of the body, and it looks
more like a landscape. We rearrange the landscape, and the
changes in the landscape affect the actual physical body.
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And that's an example.
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There's a lot of cool stuff and new patterning, patterning
that we're doing about health conditions or things that we
want to manifest in the magical realm.
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There is a cabalistic.
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Realm that I call Doth, which is knowledge or knowing.
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It's coming from the tree of life. The tree of.
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Doth is a Hebrew word that means knowledge. For me,
it stands for knowing what it does. On the tree
of life, it's bridges the upper realms, the upper what's
called sephiroth or spheres to the lower realms. It's like
a bridge and when you walk that bridge, you can
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go into the divine realm. And the way you do
this is you you need to do two things. You
need to surrender your need, your ego need to know
everything and to know and to control everything, and you
also want to accept divine love. When these two things happen,
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it's like the bridge just unfolds for you and your
way to the divine realm is open.
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And so that's what DOT is.
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And then there is the divine realm, which is not
just you know, being like drunk in the ascension. It
is it is doing some serious work. But the nice
thing about the divine realm is that it's a completely
different way to view everything because the polarity is gone.
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So for example, when we're talking about death, when we're
talking about suffering, when we're talking about about delusions, when
we're talking about control issues, lack of love, all these
are started to be seen as if through the divine eyes.
And when you see it through the divine eyes, everything shifts.
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And so we learn how.
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To close this gap between the polarities and understand it
from a divine perspective.
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The dark is not worse than the light. It's all
the same.
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It's just different frequencies on a scale, and we are
free to choose. We're always free to choose, and so
it's this is the fifth realm that I work with.
And these five realms usually physical issues, emotional issues, spiritual issues.
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They usually fit.
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In one of these realms or multiple realms, and that's
how we go through healing well.
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With over none of This book is called From Shadows
to Light. His website is linked up at coastocosdaem dot com. Well,
for of these five realms you've just gone through, how
many of them must you do in order to generate
the spiritual healing?
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Sometimes just one, that's all. Sometimes you just need to
go into your heart. Let's say that you're in grief
and you can't get rid of this grieving somebody or
a loss. We go into the heart realm and maybe
I will start helping you or showing you how to
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spin your heart chakra into a mode of release. And
we're simply starting to release what's not yours. But if
something is yours, it's not simply just releasing it. You
have to feel it. And so they're like two things
in the heart. You need to know whether it's yours
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or not. If it's somebody else's, you can release it.
If it's yours, you need to feel it and when
you feel it, instead of suppressing or repressing the emotion,
it will be it will be completed. Because that's why
we're here, That's why it came in in the first place,
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because our soul is coming in to learn.
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We also have these people that are our sole family.
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They are sometimes predetermined and then we meet them and
maybe we even hate them, maybe we don't get along
with them, but they're here to bring something in us
that needs to come up. And when it comes up,
we work through this, we feel it, and then it's gone.
And how do we know that it's gone, Because when
the and scenario happens again that triggered us, we feel
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there is no charge, there is nothing going on.
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We can be neutral. And so yeah, you can.
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Sometimes you can go into just one place and and
be done with this. George, and and and sometimes you
have to go to multiple places because especially with traumas
or PTSD, these things can take uh can take longer.
But I had you know, it's it's funny that you
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asked this.
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I had a.
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Person that had a kidney the stage four we had
worked in the Divine Realm, and after one session he
had to follow up with the doctors, and they could
no longer see the condition.
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And the stage four it went away after one went away.
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After one session, they could not see anything. Now, this
is not gonna happen every time, but it can happen
and uh and and that's how sometimes even serious thinks
can can be fast.
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And this is almost like a miracle.
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