July 20, 2025 • 15 mins
Guest host Rich Berra and retired US Army Lt. Colonel Kevin Randle discuss different depictions of time travel in cinema and genre fiction.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
There's lots of science in science fiction. And you brought
up Isaac Asimov and he seemed to be a good
seventy eighty years before the trend, right, he was part
of what we actual reality.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, he's what we call first fandom in science fiction,
and it means a group of people writing science fiction
back in the nineteen thirties as they were growing into adulthood.
And so he's looked at an awful lot of that
sort of thing. But you can take a look at
almost any science fiction writer who has predicted something.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Arthur C.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Clark predicted the communications satellite, for example, and I think
Clifford Y Simec did a lot of things. They predicted
where we were going to go. So we look at
all of that sort of thing. In that respect, time
travel has always been kind of problematic. I just watched
Somewhere in Time and there's.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, you know what I wrote that down to bring
up to you. This is a this isn't made for
TV movie actually with Christopher Reeves.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
No, it was theatrically released.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It was okay, well, maybe in the n I saw it. Okay,
maybe I just saw it when it was on TV.
At some point I thought it was a made for
TV movie that just took off. But you know, at
the Grand Hotel and all that, that is such a
that's a really good love story, but when you throw
the time travel on it, it's really heartbreaking, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, certainly, certainly is. But there's a major flaw in
it that I always wanted to talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh, let's go, where the hell did the watch come from?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
She gives it to Christopher Reeve, he takes it back
to nineteen twelve, he gives it to her. Where does
it come from? Where was it manufactured? And that's one
of the problems. And that's one of the problems with
time travel. You you you can get into those kind
of I guess, paradoxical loops where you know, there's always
(02:03):
the great joke, if time travel exists, I will meet
those people at this place at this time to see
how it works. And there was a wonderful science fiction
story where people were looking for other time travelers and
where do you go? And they end up literally hundreds
of them at the crucifixion of Christ. Because that's such
a point in history that they kind of congregate there.
(02:26):
So I mean, you can take a look at all
of that sort of thing, but I don't think travel
into the past is going to be possible. But we
are all traveling into the future at.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
One minute per minute.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But if you move closer to relativistic speeds towards the
speed of light, then time slows down, so you move
into the future literally faster than the people on Earth
where would be moving. So there's a theoretical possibility of
that sort of time travel, but you can't get back
to your original point.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, you're sort of a rare breather of air because
you've got all this military experience in your background, and
you've got the science fiction writer in you in your
background too, so you can see things. You're like a
day walker. You're like a vampire that could walk during
the day. You have all these extra powers. You're like
a little bit of a superhero in my book. And
(03:21):
I remember listening back in a day it was a
classic interview. In fact, we played it not too far
in the past on Art Bell where hein on Terrence
McKenna and Art Bell was saying asking Terrence McKenna about
time travel, and his answer was, well, I don't think
they've invented the time machine yet because nobody's traveled back
(03:44):
here to tell us about it. And I don't know
that that's necessarily true, because a lot of people have
claimed to have been from the future in coming back.
In fact, I don't know. Maybe it's the algorithm that's
happened on my Instagram and my YouTube, but I see
it quite a bit, and quite a few of them
are hoaxes. Some of them, you know, provide video. I've
(04:04):
seen this great video of somebody who says he's a
time traveler in the future, and he said, unfortunately there
was nobody around, and he's walking through this empty building
and showing video and you find out that it's all
from a science fiction film that was shot somewhere in Germany,
like in the nineties, that that video is to fake.
(04:25):
So I've seen lots of fakes. I've seen lots of debunks.
But let's let me ask you this. Do you think
time travel is real?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, once again, we are traveling in time, yes, and
I think I think theoretically we can travel into the future,
but I don't think we can travel into the past.
The past has already sat. This is my own personal opinion.
I've written science fiction stories where they're doing traveling in
the past. I just published a book called On the
Second Tuesday of Next Week, which is sort of a
science fiction war novel, and the premise is that there's
(05:00):
there was a big battle between forces of Earth and
an invading alien race out near the Pluto, and our
forces win, and when some of the people get back
to the Mars headquarters, they found that they've lost, and
the gag is the other side knows time travel, so
they know the stakes were made so they could fix it.
(05:23):
And then our guys say, well, if time travel is possible,
we should do that, And so they get into a
big fight over changing this one battle back and forth
to the see who to win the battle repeatedly, so
they have to come up with a way to end
it permanently.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, I hope make that a movie. That's gonna be awesome.
I suppose the Avengers do a little bit of that
in the Marvel movies. I don't know if you've seen that,
where they pull off out what they call a time heist.
Have you have you seen?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, they lose a big battle, so they decide to
kind of go into the quantum realm to to go
back and reverse that, and you know the thing that
that split decision that they made that ended up, you know,
losing half of every living thing. They try to go
back and reverse that moment so that that doesn't happen,
and so they're trying to go and pull off a
(06:14):
time heist, if you will so.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, my friend, my friend Bob Cornette and I did
a series of books starting with Remember to the Alamo,
where we send mercenaries back to win the Battle of
the Alamo, and then that affects the time sequences and
they end up having to go fix the Battle of
Gettysburg because the rebel forces win there, and they get
(06:37):
that fixed, and they end up at the Little Big
Horn trying to fix that as well, put it back
the way it's supposed to be. They have to keep changing,
trying to change it back because of their influences in time,
and their influences turned out and usually to be negative.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Have you read the book or it was actually a
Hulu show too, but the book was much better. Stephen
King's nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes, I absolutely love that story.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There's a there's a really cool premise, an extra time
travel premise in there. So, I mean, the ridiculous thing
is there's a like a diner that when you walk
into the freezer, you can go back to nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, absolutely, well, yeah, you always end up the same
place in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So now his.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Thing was the guy who went before him kept going
back because he thought if he could save Kennedy from
being assassinated, then the world would be a much better place.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The premise of this book that was really interesting is
that time itself, just the nature of things. Once you
go back into time, it does not want to change.
So the more of a significant thing that you try
to stop from happening, the more time itself pushes back
on you the person who's trying to change the time. So,
you know, if you have to be somewhere by, you know,
(07:59):
three o'clock in the after doon to stop somebody from
shooting somebody, you're gonna get in the car wreck, You're
gonna get arrested. Like the forces of the forces of
chaos that made that bad thing happen that you're going
to try to stop. Those forces are strong and they
push back on you, which I thought was a really
intriguing premise in that book.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Oh yeah, that was absolutely great.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And he actually does prevent the Kennedy assassination, but in
the process for those of you have not read the
book or seeing the program, tune out now. But he
goes when he saves Kennedy, his girlfriend gets killed, and
then he comes back to his life in the in
the future and it's utterly changed as well.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's really degraded into.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Dystopian world, and he has to go back and try
to fix all of that by allowing Kennedy to be assassinated.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's a pretty crazy story. That's a that's a very
good time like. I don't know why that didn't get
more play. I mean, I know they made a series
of it on Hulu. I wish it would have been
a little better, because the book was great.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The the one that I can't find a lot of
fault in as far as TV shows and movies go,
and you're gonna laugh at me, but don't laugh is
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. I think at the time
travel thing pretty but they looked for all the continuity
and they kind of got it right.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well, it's interesting in there, and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
They're doing all this so they can pass their history
coil class and get out of high school too. So, yeah,
what did you think of that we're going we're going
back to the past and we're gonna gather all these
historical figures and that way we can finish our high
school career and become what the Wild Stallions band, I
think it was.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's right, And you know, Back to the Future seems
to get it. They seem to be pretty pretty dialed
in on their their rules of time travel too. What
what about that movie you think kind of holds up
in these science fiction theory and then what would you
totally blast a hole in like somewhere in time?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It really blasted a hole in somewhere in time. I
just want to know where the watch came from. I
thought that was an important point. But all the time
travel movies make sort of the mistakes because, uh, it's
hard to keep everything consistent.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You've created a new world.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And yet you're moving through it with knowledge of the
future and things like that. Uh, so it's it's kind
of problematic. But the I like the first movie and
I kind of liked the second movie. I wasn't so
thrilled with the third version of it, where he's back
in the Old West.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But uh, yeah, that one didn't land as hard as
the first two. Yeah, the first two were really brilliant,
Robert Sims brilliant.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, they were. They were very good.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And there's not a lot to fault in it if
you grant the premise of time travel. And I've always
been you know, there's always the big paradox. Well, if
you go back in time you and kill your grandfather,
then you won't exist. So how can you go back
in time and kill your great And my answer has
always been, because you're the instrument of change.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
You have to exist.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
If you go back and kill your grandfather, you may
wipe out your whole family at that point, but you
will still exist because you are the instrument of the change.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh wow, that okay, I gotta sit in that for
a second. That's pretty deep. The grandfather paradox were calling this.
So if you go back in time to eliminate your grandfather,
the fact that you were able to go back in
time and eliminate your grandfather means that other people in
your family won't exist, but you still will because you're
the agent of change.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Absolutely, you have to exist to make the change. Why
did a science fiction novel too? I'm now a short
story I think quite a long time ago where they
go back in time to kill Hitler, which, of course
everybody that's the premise. Everybody does, let's go back and
kill Hitler. But in this one, because they Hitler was killed,
(11:55):
the Germans win World War two and it changes the
whole future, and so they're going to go back and
try to fix that. But I guess it would be
the Gestapo arrest all the people were involved in the
time travel hope, so they can't go back and fix
fix history the way it's supposed to be, with the
Nazis losing the Second World War because Hitler was a
(12:16):
problem with the battlefield instructions and making just disastrous and catastrophic.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Orders about how they're supposed to act, and.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Without him in the way, the German high command is
able to take the war in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I know that from watching Ancient Aliens that there was
a pretty big search in a scientific exploration by the
Germans during World War two to build the time machine,
and it seems like from their estimation, they thought that
they could build one within about ten years or so
(12:57):
for that very reason that if they lost the battle,
they could go back a little bit and do it
again until they won. Is there any truth out or
is that? Does that mean just getting sucked in by
ecient aliens?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I think as you getting sucked in by each an alien,
But no, I haven't. But I also say that that
one of the things you have to look at is
the Nazis. The Germans were really into the New Age
type stuff too. They were they were really looking for
Noah's arc, not no as arc, but the ark of
the Covenant arc in the Covenant, Thank You. And they
(13:30):
were into a lot of psychic phenomenon as well, which
didn't pan out for them, but but they were. They
were doing a lot of research into that. The Soviets
were doing the same thing as were we doing the
same thing in the in the eighties and nineties, trying
to trying to develop these psychic I guess psychic powers
would be the way they to put it. I'm not
(13:51):
sure that a whole lot came from it. But on
the other side of the corner, I think all of
us can take a look back at our lives and
think there were points in our life where we had
a prediction that came true.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Some of it was based on the NAJE.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I used to do a radio show in El Paso,
Texas on KTSM Radio and we had Irene Hughes, I
think was the big psychic at the time, and Brad
Steiger actually helped her help.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Me get her on the show. And it was a
time just before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
There were four teams left in the playoffs, and so
we asked I asked her who's going to win the
Super Bowl? And she told me the two teams were
going to be in it. And after I signed off
from that part of those segment, I said, you know,
she's completely wrong, because we know it's going to be
the Cowboys and the Steelers, and the Cowboys are going
to win by ten points. I got the teams right
(14:41):
and called the spread. Basically, she got the two teams wrong.
So I thought that was kind of interesting, but I
think it was based on knowing more about football than
Irene Hughes might have known about.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
There's lots of science in science fiction. And you brought
up Isaac Asimov and he seemed to be a good
seventy eighty years before the trend, right, he was part
of what we actual reality.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, he's what we call first fandom in science fiction,
and it means a group of people writing science fiction
back in the nineteen thirties as they were growing into adulthood.
And so he's looked at an awful lot of that
sort of thing. But you can take a look at
almost any science fiction writer who has predicted something.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Arthur C.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Clark predicted the communications satellite, for example, and I think
Clifford Y Simec did a lot of things. They predicted
where we were going to go. So we look at
all of that sort of thing. In that respect, time
travel has always been kind of problematic. I just watched
Somewhere in Time and there's.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh, you know what I wrote that down to bring
up to you. This is a this isn't made for
TV movie actually with Christopher Reeves.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
No, it was theatrically released.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It was okay, well, maybe in the n I saw it. Okay,
maybe I just saw it when it was on TV.
At some point I thought it was a made for
TV movie that just took off. But you know, at
the Grand Hotel and all that, that is such a
that's a really good love story, but when you throw
the time travel on it, it's really heartbreaking, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, certainly, certainly is. But there's a major flaw in
it that I always wanted to talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh, let's go, where the hell did the watch come from?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
She gives it to Christopher Reeve, he takes it back
to nineteen twelve, he gives it to her. Where does
it come from? Where was it manufactured? And that's one
of the problems. And that's one of the problems with
time travel. You you you can get into those kind
of I guess, paradoxical loops where you know, there's always
(02:03):
the great joke, if time travel exists, I will meet
those people at this place at this time to see
how it works. And there was a wonderful science fiction
story where people were looking for other time travelers and
where do you go? And they end up literally hundreds
of them at the crucifixion of Christ. Because that's such
a point in history that they kind of congregate there.
(02:26):
So I mean, you can take a look at all
of that sort of thing, but I don't think travel
into the past is going to be possible. But we
are all traveling into the future at.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
One minute per minute.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But if you move closer to relativistic speeds towards the
speed of light, then time slows down, so you move
into the future literally faster than the people on Earth
where would be moving. So there's a theoretical possibility of
that sort of time travel, but you can't get back
to your original point.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, you're sort of a rare breather of air because
you've got all this military experience in your background, and
you've got the science fiction writer in you in your
background too, so you can see things. You're like a
day walker. You're like a vampire that could walk during
the day. You have all these extra powers. You're like
a little bit of a superhero in my book. And
(03:21):
I remember listening back in a day it was a
classic interview. In fact, we played it not too far
in the past on Art Bell where hein on Terrence
McKenna and Art Bell was saying asking Terrence McKenna about
time travel, and his answer was, well, I don't think
they've invented the time machine yet because nobody's traveled back
(03:44):
here to tell us about it. And I don't know
that that's necessarily true, because a lot of people have
claimed to have been from the future in coming back.
In fact, I don't know. Maybe it's the algorithm that's
happened on my Instagram and my YouTube, but I see
it quite a bit, and quite a few of them
are hoaxes. Some of them, you know, provide video. I've
(04:04):
seen this great video of somebody who says he's a
time traveler in the future, and he said, unfortunately there
was nobody around, and he's walking through this empty building
and showing video and you find out that it's all
from a science fiction film that was shot somewhere in Germany,
like in the nineties, that that video is to fake.
(04:25):
So I've seen lots of fakes. I've seen lots of debunks.
But let's let me ask you this. Do you think
time travel is real?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, once again, we are traveling in time, yes, and
I think I think theoretically we can travel into the future,
but I don't think we can travel into the past.
The past has already sat. This is my own personal opinion.
I've written science fiction stories where they're doing traveling in
the past. I just published a book called On the
Second Tuesday of Next Week, which is sort of a
science fiction war novel, and the premise is that there's
(05:00):
there was a big battle between forces of Earth and
an invading alien race out near the Pluto, and our
forces win, and when some of the people get back
to the Mars headquarters, they found that they've lost, and
the gag is the other side knows time travel, so
they know the stakes were made so they could fix it.
(05:23):
And then our guys say, well, if time travel is possible,
we should do that, And so they get into a
big fight over changing this one battle back and forth
to the see who to win the battle repeatedly, so
they have to come up with a way to end
it permanently.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, I hope make that a movie. That's gonna be awesome.
I suppose the Avengers do a little bit of that
in the Marvel movies. I don't know if you've seen that,
where they pull off out what they call a time heist.
Have you have you seen?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, they lose a big battle, so they decide to
kind of go into the quantum realm to to go
back and reverse that, and you know the thing that
that split decision that they made that ended up, you know,
losing half of every living thing. They try to go
back and reverse that moment so that that doesn't happen,
and so they're trying to go and pull off a
(06:14):
time heist, if you will so.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, my friend, my friend Bob Cornette and I did
a series of books starting with Remember to the Alamo,
where we send mercenaries back to win the Battle of
the Alamo, and then that affects the time sequences and
they end up having to go fix the Battle of
Gettysburg because the rebel forces win there, and they get
(06:37):
that fixed, and they end up at the Little Big
Horn trying to fix that as well, put it back
the way it's supposed to be. They have to keep changing,
trying to change it back because of their influences in time,
and their influences turned out and usually to be negative.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Have you read the book or it was actually a
Hulu show too, but the book was much better. Stephen
King's nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes, I absolutely love that story.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There's a there's a really cool premise, an extra time
travel premise in there. So, I mean, the ridiculous thing
is there's a like a diner that when you walk
into the freezer, you can go back to nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, absolutely, well, yeah, you always end up the same
place in nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
So now his.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Thing was the guy who went before him kept going
back because he thought if he could save Kennedy from
being assassinated, then the world would be a much better place.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
The premise of this book that was really interesting is
that time itself, just the nature of things. Once you
go back into time, it does not want to change.
So the more of a significant thing that you try
to stop from happening, the more time itself pushes back
on you the person who's trying to change the time. So,
you know, if you have to be somewhere by, you know,
(07:59):
three o'clock in the after doon to stop somebody from
shooting somebody, you're gonna get in the car wreck, You're
gonna get arrested. Like the forces of the forces of
chaos that made that bad thing happen that you're going
to try to stop. Those forces are strong and they
push back on you, which I thought was a really
intriguing premise in that book.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Oh yeah, that was absolutely great.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And he actually does prevent the Kennedy assassination, but in
the process for those of you have not read the
book or seeing the program, tune out now. But he
goes when he saves Kennedy, his girlfriend gets killed, and
then he comes back to his life in the in
the future and it's utterly changed as well.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's really degraded into.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Dystopian world, and he has to go back and try
to fix all of that by allowing Kennedy to be assassinated.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's a pretty crazy story. That's a that's a very
good time like. I don't know why that didn't get
more play. I mean, I know they made a series
of it on Hulu. I wish it would have been
a little better, because the book was great.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The the one that I can't find a lot of
fault in as far as TV shows and movies go,
and you're gonna laugh at me, but don't laugh is
Bill and Ted's excellent adventure. I think at the time
travel thing pretty but they looked for all the continuity
and they kind of got it right.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Well, it's interesting in there, and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
They're doing all this so they can pass their history
coil class and get out of high school too. So, yeah,
what did you think of that we're going we're going
back to the past and we're gonna gather all these
historical figures and that way we can finish our high
school career and become what the Wild Stallions band, I
think it was.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's right, And you know, Back to the Future seems
to get it. They seem to be pretty pretty dialed
in on their their rules of time travel too. What
what about that movie you think kind of holds up
in these science fiction theory and then what would you
totally blast a hole in like somewhere in time?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
It really blasted a hole in somewhere in time. I
just want to know where the watch came from. I
thought that was an important point. But all the time
travel movies make sort of the mistakes because, uh, it's
hard to keep everything consistent.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You've created a new world.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And yet you're moving through it with knowledge of the
future and things like that. Uh, so it's it's kind
of problematic. But the I like the first movie and
I kind of liked the second movie. I wasn't so
thrilled with the third version of it, where he's back
in the Old West.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
But uh, yeah, that one didn't land as hard as
the first two. Yeah, the first two were really brilliant,
Robert Sims brilliant.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, they were. They were very good.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And there's not a lot to fault in it if
you grant the premise of time travel. And I've always
been you know, there's always the big paradox. Well, if
you go back in time you and kill your grandfather,
then you won't exist. So how can you go back
in time and kill your great And my answer has
always been, because you're the instrument of change.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
You have to exist.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
If you go back and kill your grandfather, you may
wipe out your whole family at that point, but you
will still exist because you are the instrument of the change.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh wow, that okay, I gotta sit in that for
a second. That's pretty deep. The grandfather paradox were calling this.
So if you go back in time to eliminate your grandfather,
the fact that you were able to go back in
time and eliminate your grandfather means that other people in
your family won't exist, but you still will because you're
the agent of change.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Absolutely, you have to exist to make the change. Why
did a science fiction novel too? I'm now a short
story I think quite a long time ago where they
go back in time to kill Hitler, which, of course
everybody that's the premise. Everybody does, let's go back and
kill Hitler. But in this one, because they Hitler was killed,
(11:55):
the Germans win World War two and it changes the
whole future, and so they're going to go back and
try to fix that. But I guess it would be
the Gestapo arrest all the people were involved in the
time travel hope, so they can't go back and fix
fix history the way it's supposed to be, with the
Nazis losing the Second World War because Hitler was a
(12:16):
problem with the battlefield instructions and making just disastrous and catastrophic.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Orders about how they're supposed to act, and.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Without him in the way, the German high command is
able to take the war in a different direction.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I know that from watching Ancient Aliens that there was
a pretty big search in a scientific exploration by the
Germans during World War two to build the time machine,
and it seems like from their estimation, they thought that
they could build one within about ten years or so
(12:57):
for that very reason that if they lost the battle,
they could go back a little bit and do it
again until they won. Is there any truth out or
is that? Does that mean just getting sucked in by
ecient aliens?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I think as you getting sucked in by each an alien,
But no, I haven't. But I also say that that
one of the things you have to look at is
the Nazis. The Germans were really into the New Age
type stuff too. They were they were really looking for
Noah's arc, not no as arc, but the ark of
the Covenant arc in the Covenant, Thank You. And they
(13:30):
were into a lot of psychic phenomenon as well, which
didn't pan out for them, but but they were. They
were doing a lot of research into that. The Soviets
were doing the same thing as were we doing the
same thing in the in the eighties and nineties, trying
to trying to develop these psychic I guess psychic powers
would be the way they to put it. I'm not
(13:51):
sure that a whole lot came from it. But on
the other side of the corner, I think all of
us can take a look back at our lives and
think there were points in our life where we had
a prediction that came true.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Some of it was based on the NAJE.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I used to do a radio show in El Paso,
Texas on KTSM Radio and we had Irene Hughes, I
think was the big psychic at the time, and Brad
Steiger actually helped her help.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Me get her on the show. And it was a
time just before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
There were four teams left in the playoffs, and so
we asked I asked her who's going to win the
Super Bowl? And she told me the two teams were
going to be in it. And after I signed off
from that part of those segment, I said, you know,
she's completely wrong, because we know it's going to be
the Cowboys and the Steelers, and the Cowboys are going
to win by ten points. I got the teams right
(14:41):
and called the spread. Basically, she got the two teams wrong.
So I thought that was kind of interesting, but I
think it was based on knowing more about football than
Irene Hughes might have known about.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
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