October 24, 2025 • 17 mins
George Noory and author Edmondo Crimi discuss his paranormal museum in Pennsylvania, some of the creepiest items in the museum like vampire killing paraphernalia and the spirit of a little girl that haunts the museum, plus getting to attend an exorcism conference at the Vatican.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Author and museum curator Albando Krimi has been collecting and
dealing in antiques all over the world for more than
fifty years. His fascination with the supernatural started at a
young age, at a time when his grandfather's brother and
uncle were exorcist priests in Sicily, and Mondo also helps
(00:26):
curate other museums and private collections throughout the world. His
website is linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com at
Mondo Welcome. I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hello George, how you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Fantastic, my friend. Then, how old were you at that
young age when you got involved in this.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well, I've been hearing stories my entire life from my
father about his family and the fact that my granduncle.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Was exorcist in Sicily.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Did you get you were fascinated with that, weren't you?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yes, I mean hearing the stories growing up and reading
some of the manuscripts, it just fascinated me about the concept.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I want you to tell folks to the name of
your museum, because that'll tell the story right there.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Well, the name of the museum is the Vampa Art
Museum and it's in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and it's the largest
museum in the world having vampire killing sets as well
as strong paranormal items.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How did you get that name?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
My daughter came up with it, Vampire Art Museum and
paranormal activity.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
My youngest daughter did that.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Now, what are some of the things that are in
the museum and how long has it been open?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Museum has been open two years.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I've been collecting for over forty five years and we
have original vampire killing sets. We have two exorcism chairs,
a collection of talking boards, we have supernatural dolls. We
have one room dedicated to the edification of the archangel
Michael fighting Satan, and we have Asian art as well.
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We have a lot statue of Garuda and we have
probably a couple of thousand items in the museum.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How do you find these items at mondo?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Traveling throughout the world In my twenties and thirties, I
had the opportunity to travel throughout the world for my work.
I'm also a full time antique stealer and I'm always
looking items come to us, people call us. People have
items that have panted energy to it. People have items
that esthetically they don't want anymore. So it's a combination
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a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Do you hear about that tragedy in the Louver in
Paris where those people ran off with Napoleon's jewelry?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I swear I didn't do it, not you? Not you?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
How do you rob from a museum like that?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's sometimes quite easy, believe it or not, and sometimes difficult.
I've actually been involved in working with various governments on
help being recover items that were stolen from museums many
many years ago. I mean that situation seems really strange.
I mean, it's probably was something where somebody had some
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inside information.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I would think, I would think so. And they say
that the jewelry is valued it at one hundred and
two million dollars, What are they going to do with it?
Who would buy that?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I would think they're going to break it up unless
they already had a pre soul to a very wealthy
collector who specifically chose that item and hired some people
to get it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Is it illegal for that collector to buy the jewelry
even though it was stolen.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Absolutely, there's no statute limitation on stolen artwork.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So he or she can't publicly go crazy and say, hey, folks,
I now own Napoleon's jewelry.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
It has to be someone who's quite obsessed to either
with the item and just want to keep it and
have it, and he.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Must have a lot of money to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
When you picked up your item for your museum, was
it tough negotiation negotiating with people or did they just
willingly and freely give it to you? Or do you
have to buy it? No?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I have to buy all the items, you know, negotiating
like negotiating anything. You know, some people might want more
than what it's worth and you have to get them realistic.
Other people just want to sell it. Each case is different,
but fun, but a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
How old is your oldest piece?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
We'll have items dating back from the Roman period, Mesopotanian period.
Most of the items we have are probably seventeen, eighteenth
and nineteenth century.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Though, well, that's fantastic, give it. Paint us a picture
of Bundo. When we walk into the museum, what do
we see.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Well, the first room which is the largest room. We
call the Art of the Kill, and the items there
showed the testimony to the belief of vampires. And the
items will hand carved beautiful. You have items will lapis, malachite,
semi precious stones, various carved wood, various ion elements. I
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mean a lot of different variety.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Why did you go to the museum? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Sorry, we go to the museum. The next room is
the exorcism room. The next room after that has a combination.
Then we have the witchcraft room, the Haunted doll Room
I'm a room with a carriage in it, and the
last room the Augangel.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Michael, is it a big museum?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That pretty big? You know for a small museum. It's
actually big. I mean we have eight rooms. We have
a very large following on Instagram for a museum, and
we have over one hundred and eighty five thousand followers,
so it's a very popular museum.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Good for you, Good for you? And what made you
put the museum together?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Well, I've always collected the items and the Actually the
museum is where my children grew up, so as they
got older, I didn't need such a big estate. It's
an italianate mansion, which is on the property of where
my other business is, my antiques and God in business.
And I just decided to be the perfect place to
have the museum and made it fits well with the items.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And are you still an ordained minister?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Tell me about that. How did that happen?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I've been interested, obviously in religion my whole life. I
was invited to the Vatican, you know, at the Exorcist
conference two years ago, and I've always had a strong,
strong feeling to be a minister. My ministry is basically
non denomination. It's all about love, compassion and charity. So
I just decided to do it and did some studying
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and did it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Now you're Italian, I assume right?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Sicilian?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yes, Sicilian, and most Sicilians are Catholics. Is that how
you were raised?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yes? I was ra Roman Catholic.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, me too, me too. Now this conference you went
to two years ago, the Exorcist conference, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, that was amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I was quite honored to be invited to do that,
how to have permission from my local priest as well
as a bishop, And it was probably most fascinating things
I've done in my life. I was with three hundred
and fifty exorcists another one hundred and fifty exorcist candidates.
It was quite academic, and it's amazing because the people
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I were with, they were very Their fortitude and strength
was amazing. And these are small, small people. I mean
they have two PhDs, they speak four or five languages.
It's not mass hysteria. It's just a strong belief in
a concept.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And they take this very seriously, don't they.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Oh yeah, yes, very very seriously.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Most cultures do you know, just was and we had
people from various cultures and various religions also at the
exorcism conference, so it wasn't just Roman Catholic. It was
a combination of different beliefs.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
There was a movie about the Pope's exorcist, Gabriel A Morth,
that was played by Russell Crowe. He did a great
job doing that. But the Catholic Church at Mondo takes
this very seriously, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yes, just like most religious I mean it's a serious thing.
In exticism, it's a it's a liberation of the soul
and it can be quite intense.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Let's talk a little bit about demons. What do you
think of them?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, I do believe in demons. I do believe in
also neuroscience. I do believe in psychology.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So it could be a.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Combination of different things. I don't always say it's a demon.
People could have multiple conflict Like you can have a
brain tumor and have an anxiety disorder, just like you
can have an anxiety disorder and have a spiritual connection
as well. I mean, demons are bad. They do not
like people. They hate humans. That's what they do, that's
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their job.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But you believe it's a real deal, right.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Absolutely no doubt in my mind. There's absolutely no doubt
in my mind. I have actually have been involved with
seven exorcisms during my life, doing prayers, a liberation, gearing
the stories of my family, as well as being on
it to be invited to the conference.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I mean being so involved in these strange pieces in
the museum. I mean, has anything ever happened to you
or rubbed off in the museum?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh? I can tell tons of stories of things that's happened.
Remember I also live above the museum. I live upstairs.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, that's right, you do. We'll get into that in
the second so what are some of the things that
have happened there at the museum.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Well, we've had It's not just in the museum though,
because we have a big sixteen thousand square foot bond
on the property as well, which I'm in right now,
and the combination voices, footsteps, items that have moved various
spiritual feelings that people have had in the museum. But
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it's not always negative. I always tell people that, let's
say you hear or see something so you get scared
at your amiglia, but perhaps it's your guardian angel or
a good spirit trying to alter your timing for that
day so you don't get into a car accident tomorrow.
So I don't really always go with the negative. We
do have a spirit on the property that it came
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with the property. Her name is Abigail. She's an eight
year old girl. She used to be an old dairy
fall and she loves milk. And she's not nefarious, banding
stretching imagination. But she's very nice and she's very playful.
But sometimes she's scared you, especially if you hear a
noise or a voice or a whisper when you're not
expecting it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What happened to Abigail when she was little.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We did some research.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I actually recently was in London trying to get some information,
but it's very difficult. It's not like today where everything's
on a computer and there's lots of records. We do
not believe she passed on on the property. A lot
of times spirits go back to a property which was
a very weird.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
They had a very good time.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
People always want to think that the spirit had to
die on them property, but I don't believe that's true.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Amazing, but you would you say she haunts the museum.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yes, she definitely is play for I mean, people have
seen her. We have tons of testimony, especially on our Instagram,
where people have heard her voices, have heard their names
being called out in the museum. It's funny because I've
owned the property thirty five years, and like I said,
my children grew up there and my two of my
daughters used to argue about who would drink the milk
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from their room or they would say they fed the
cat milk and would disappear. My employees would actually have
arguments about why someone left the refrigerator open in the
workshop and or milk on the floor.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
She likes to play with milk. I guess because this
was an old dairy farm.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We're talking with al Mondo Krume. His website is Vampa
Museum dot com linked up at Coast Tocosdam dot com.
How often are you open, and I'm sure you can
you give tours of the museum.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yes, We're open Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday from ten
to five. And I'm usually on the property definitely all
those times, and I go in and out of the
museum a lot, talking with people, and we also have
private tours. We have a cleansing room experience where we
go down the basement where items have not been cleansed yet,
and we even do that now with flashlights. So the
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entire museum is dock, which actually is not meant to
scare people, but when the museum's docked, there's so many items.
With a flashlight, you can individually focus on a beautiful
work of art, actually much easier generally.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
How long does it take to go through the museum?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Usually I would say anywhere between a half an hour
and a little over an hour.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, that's not bad, that's not bad. And when most
people are done with the experience. Are they scared baffled?
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I think they're interested. I mean it has a lot
of historical, historical information, so people are learning. They're fascinated
for sure. They love the artwork. I mean the items
are absolutely beautiful. It's probably one of the only museums
in the world where you can see such intense, beautiful
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paranormal items. They love the experience and the whole property.
We have a dinosaur park on the property for children.
We have mazes for children, we have peacocks, so it's
not just scary, but it's a family friendly property.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
How extensive is your vampire the situation?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And we have the biggest collection in the world by far,
by far.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Now, what are some of the things you have tied
into vampires.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, we have the vampire killing sets. We have larger
items that usually were in pubs or restaurants where people
would be traveling. We have a lot of smaller kits.
We have items and trunks that have been on boats.
We have individual implements in iron in Codswood. I mean
we probably have, you know, close to fifteen hundred people
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pieces in.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
The Yeah, what is a vampire killing set?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
It's usually a box that would have crucifixes, you would
have a hammer and steaks, holywater, garlic you would have
in it, you would have salt, you would have some
type of edge weaponry, and a lot of times most
of the time a Bible. Sometimes you'd have pistols as well.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
What do you think of the theory of vampires.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, you know, the Bromstroker wrote a book Dracula eighteen
ninety seven. It's fiction, so a lot of the items
we have are prior to that concept. To me, it's
more of a demonic entity than actually a situation. Like Bromstroker,
great book. I mean, I love vampire movies, but that's
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still fiction based on reality.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, based on some of these movies. I'm sure you
remember the old black and white not start.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Uptu Oh yeah, yeah, great, great.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
What a hideous looking vampire he was, wasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
He He was very scary. Yeah, he had a different look.
He had definitely a different look.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And as the vampires evolved, was it all based on
the real life story of Vlad the Impaler.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's one of the concepts I mean goes prior to that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
You know, you can go back as far in the
Bible as Lilith Adam's first wife. I mean she was
a blood drinker, but a lot of it came from
specifical Brahmstroker's concepts about Lady Impala.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What is your favorite piece in the museum?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Get that question a lot. It's really hot to say.
We do have a eighteenth century hearse which is actually
beautiful and it was outfitted to hunt vampire. So the
family would actually travel from various towns throughout Europe and
they would hire themselves to rid the town of so
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called vampires.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's fantastic. Does your daughter run the museum?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Well, I have two of my daughters on one North
Carolina ones in London. They do a lot with the
social media. But actually I'm going to be a grandfather,
which is really cool, so we'll do thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So we're doing a lot more in house. I'm Cammi
and Megan.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And my two main people for the social media, especially Cammy,
she really does a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Do you think at Mondo that there are real vampires today?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, we just did a.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Collaboration with a local museum called the Tileworks and we
had lots of people dress up as vampires. We had
Madam X who is a vampire a very lovely person.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's almost sometimes some people consider it like.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
A cosplay thing. They like to dress up. A lot
of people like to dress up in goth and Victorian outfits.
Some people might believe they're a vampire, but in their
way that they.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Want to identify as a vampire.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So I don't believe in that there are vampires roaming
the streets now, just like there was Impromstrokers stories.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But I do believe in demons.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So that is another, you know, offshoot to the concept
of vampires.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And I'm sure you remember the Hollywood version of Vampira.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Huh. Yes, Yes, there's a lot of good movies.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
As as Hollywood kind of romanticized the vampire.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yes, I mean they bring a sexuality in it. They
bring the concept of momentum more about you know, mortality
and immortality.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean, it's a very seductive concept.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.
Author and museum curator Albando Krimi has been collecting and
dealing in antiques all over the world for more than
fifty years. His fascination with the supernatural started at a
young age, at a time when his grandfather's brother and
uncle were exorcist priests in Sicily, and Mondo also helps
(00:26):
curate other museums and private collections throughout the world. His
website is linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com at
Mondo Welcome. I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hello George, how you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Fantastic, my friend. Then, how old were you at that
young age when you got involved in this.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Well, I've been hearing stories my entire life from my
father about his family and the fact that my granduncle.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Was exorcist in Sicily.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Did you get you were fascinated with that, weren't you?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yes, I mean hearing the stories growing up and reading
some of the manuscripts, it just fascinated me about the concept.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I want you to tell folks to the name of
your museum, because that'll tell the story right there.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Well, the name of the museum is the Vampa Art
Museum and it's in Doylestown, Pennsylvania, and it's the largest
museum in the world having vampire killing sets as well
as strong paranormal items.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How did you get that name?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
My daughter came up with it, Vampire Art Museum and
paranormal activity.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
My youngest daughter did that.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Now, what are some of the things that are in
the museum and how long has it been open?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Museum has been open two years.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I've been collecting for over forty five years and we
have original vampire killing sets. We have two exorcism chairs,
a collection of talking boards, we have supernatural dolls. We
have one room dedicated to the edification of the archangel
Michael fighting Satan, and we have Asian art as well.
(02:00):
We have a lot statue of Garuda and we have
probably a couple of thousand items in the museum.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
How do you find these items at mondo?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Traveling throughout the world In my twenties and thirties, I
had the opportunity to travel throughout the world for my work.
I'm also a full time antique stealer and I'm always
looking items come to us, people call us. People have
items that have panted energy to it. People have items
that esthetically they don't want anymore. So it's a combination
(02:30):
a lot of different things.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Do you hear about that tragedy in the Louver in
Paris where those people ran off with Napoleon's jewelry?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I swear I didn't do it, not you? Not you?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
How do you rob from a museum like that?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's sometimes quite easy, believe it or not, and sometimes difficult.
I've actually been involved in working with various governments on
help being recover items that were stolen from museums many
many years ago. I mean that situation seems really strange.
I mean, it's probably was something where somebody had some
(03:11):
inside information.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I would think, I would think so. And they say
that the jewelry is valued it at one hundred and
two million dollars, What are they going to do with it?
Who would buy that?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You know?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I would think they're going to break it up unless
they already had a pre soul to a very wealthy
collector who specifically chose that item and hired some people
to get it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Is it illegal for that collector to buy the jewelry
even though it was stolen.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Absolutely, there's no statute limitation on stolen artwork.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So he or she can't publicly go crazy and say, hey, folks,
I now own Napoleon's jewelry.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
It has to be someone who's quite obsessed to either
with the item and just want to keep it and
have it, and he.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Must have a lot of money to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
When you picked up your item for your museum, was
it tough negotiation negotiating with people or did they just
willingly and freely give it to you? Or do you
have to buy it? No?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I have to buy all the items, you know, negotiating
like negotiating anything. You know, some people might want more
than what it's worth and you have to get them realistic.
Other people just want to sell it. Each case is different,
but fun, but a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
How old is your oldest piece?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
We'll have items dating back from the Roman period, Mesopotanian period.
Most of the items we have are probably seventeen, eighteenth
and nineteenth century.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Though, well, that's fantastic, give it. Paint us a picture
of Bundo. When we walk into the museum, what do
we see.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Well, the first room which is the largest room. We
call the Art of the Kill, and the items there
showed the testimony to the belief of vampires. And the
items will hand carved beautiful. You have items will lapis, malachite,
semi precious stones, various carved wood, various ion elements. I
(05:02):
mean a lot of different variety.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Why did you go to the museum? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Sorry, we go to the museum. The next room is
the exorcism room. The next room after that has a combination.
Then we have the witchcraft room, the Haunted doll Room
I'm a room with a carriage in it, and the
last room the Augangel.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Michael, is it a big museum?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That pretty big? You know for a small museum. It's
actually big. I mean we have eight rooms. We have
a very large following on Instagram for a museum, and
we have over one hundred and eighty five thousand followers,
so it's a very popular museum.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Good for you, Good for you? And what made you
put the museum together?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Well, I've always collected the items and the Actually the
museum is where my children grew up, so as they
got older, I didn't need such a big estate. It's
an italianate mansion, which is on the property of where
my other business is, my antiques and God in business.
And I just decided to be the perfect place to
have the museum and made it fits well with the items.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
And are you still an ordained minister?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Tell me about that. How did that happen?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
I've been interested, obviously in religion my whole life. I
was invited to the Vatican, you know, at the Exorcist
conference two years ago, and I've always had a strong,
strong feeling to be a minister. My ministry is basically
non denomination. It's all about love, compassion and charity. So
I just decided to do it and did some studying
(06:31):
and did it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Now you're Italian, I assume right?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Sicilian?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yes, Sicilian, and most Sicilians are Catholics. Is that how
you were raised?
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yes? I was ra Roman Catholic.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, me too, me too. Now this conference you went
to two years ago, the Exorcist conference, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, that was amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I was quite honored to be invited to do that,
how to have permission from my local priest as well
as a bishop, And it was probably most fascinating things
I've done in my life. I was with three hundred
and fifty exorcists another one hundred and fifty exorcist candidates.
It was quite academic, and it's amazing because the people
(07:15):
I were with, they were very Their fortitude and strength
was amazing. And these are small, small people. I mean
they have two PhDs, they speak four or five languages.
It's not mass hysteria. It's just a strong belief in
a concept.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And they take this very seriously, don't they.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Oh yeah, yes, very very seriously.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Most cultures do you know, just was and we had
people from various cultures and various religions also at the
exorcism conference, so it wasn't just Roman Catholic. It was
a combination of different beliefs.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
There was a movie about the Pope's exorcist, Gabriel A Morth,
that was played by Russell Crowe. He did a great
job doing that. But the Catholic Church at Mondo takes
this very seriously, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yes, just like most religious I mean it's a serious thing.
In exticism, it's a it's a liberation of the soul
and it can be quite intense.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Let's talk a little bit about demons. What do you
think of them?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Well, I do believe in demons. I do believe in
also neuroscience. I do believe in psychology.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So it could be a.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Combination of different things. I don't always say it's a demon.
People could have multiple conflict Like you can have a
brain tumor and have an anxiety disorder, just like you
can have an anxiety disorder and have a spiritual connection
as well. I mean, demons are bad. They do not
like people. They hate humans. That's what they do, that's
(08:45):
their job.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
But you believe it's a real deal, right.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Absolutely no doubt in my mind. There's absolutely no doubt
in my mind. I have actually have been involved with
seven exorcisms during my life, doing prayers, a liberation, gearing
the stories of my family, as well as being on
it to be invited to the conference.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I mean being so involved in these strange pieces in
the museum. I mean, has anything ever happened to you
or rubbed off in the museum?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh? I can tell tons of stories of things that's happened.
Remember I also live above the museum. I live upstairs.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, that's right, you do. We'll get into that in
the second so what are some of the things that
have happened there at the museum.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Well, we've had It's not just in the museum though,
because we have a big sixteen thousand square foot bond
on the property as well, which I'm in right now,
and the combination voices, footsteps, items that have moved various
spiritual feelings that people have had in the museum. But
(09:53):
it's not always negative. I always tell people that, let's
say you hear or see something so you get scared
at your amiglia, but perhaps it's your guardian angel or
a good spirit trying to alter your timing for that
day so you don't get into a car accident tomorrow.
So I don't really always go with the negative. We
do have a spirit on the property that it came
(10:16):
with the property. Her name is Abigail. She's an eight
year old girl. She used to be an old dairy
fall and she loves milk. And she's not nefarious, banding
stretching imagination. But she's very nice and she's very playful.
But sometimes she's scared you, especially if you hear a
noise or a voice or a whisper when you're not
expecting it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What happened to Abigail when she was little.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We did some research.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I actually recently was in London trying to get some information,
but it's very difficult. It's not like today where everything's
on a computer and there's lots of records. We do
not believe she passed on on the property. A lot
of times spirits go back to a property which was
a very weird.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
They had a very good time.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
People always want to think that the spirit had to
die on them property, but I don't believe that's true.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Amazing, but you would you say she haunts the museum.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yes, she definitely is play for I mean, people have
seen her. We have tons of testimony, especially on our Instagram,
where people have heard her voices, have heard their names
being called out in the museum. It's funny because I've
owned the property thirty five years, and like I said,
my children grew up there and my two of my
daughters used to argue about who would drink the milk
(11:30):
from their room or they would say they fed the
cat milk and would disappear. My employees would actually have
arguments about why someone left the refrigerator open in the
workshop and or milk on the floor.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
She likes to play with milk. I guess because this
was an old dairy farm.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We're talking with al Mondo Krume. His website is Vampa
Museum dot com linked up at Coast Tocosdam dot com.
How often are you open, and I'm sure you can
you give tours of the museum.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yes, We're open Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday from ten
to five. And I'm usually on the property definitely all
those times, and I go in and out of the
museum a lot, talking with people, and we also have
private tours. We have a cleansing room experience where we
go down the basement where items have not been cleansed yet,
and we even do that now with flashlights. So the
(12:20):
entire museum is dock, which actually is not meant to
scare people, but when the museum's docked, there's so many items.
With a flashlight, you can individually focus on a beautiful
work of art, actually much easier generally.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
How long does it take to go through the museum?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Usually I would say anywhere between a half an hour
and a little over an hour.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, that's not bad, that's not bad. And when most
people are done with the experience. Are they scared baffled?
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I think they're interested. I mean it has a lot
of historical, historical information, so people are learning. They're fascinated
for sure. They love the artwork. I mean the items
are absolutely beautiful. It's probably one of the only museums
in the world where you can see such intense, beautiful
(13:10):
paranormal items. They love the experience and the whole property.
We have a dinosaur park on the property for children.
We have mazes for children, we have peacocks, so it's
not just scary, but it's a family friendly property.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
How extensive is your vampire the situation?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And we have the biggest collection in the world by far,
by far.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Now, what are some of the things you have tied
into vampires.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Well, we have the vampire killing sets. We have larger
items that usually were in pubs or restaurants where people
would be traveling. We have a lot of smaller kits.
We have items and trunks that have been on boats.
We have individual implements in iron in Codswood. I mean
we probably have, you know, close to fifteen hundred people
(13:58):
pieces in.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
The Yeah, what is a vampire killing set?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
It's usually a box that would have crucifixes, you would
have a hammer and steaks, holywater, garlic you would have
in it, you would have salt, you would have some
type of edge weaponry, and a lot of times most
of the time a Bible. Sometimes you'd have pistols as well.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
What do you think of the theory of vampires.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Well, you know, the Bromstroker wrote a book Dracula eighteen
ninety seven. It's fiction, so a lot of the items
we have are prior to that concept. To me, it's
more of a demonic entity than actually a situation. Like Bromstroker,
great book. I mean, I love vampire movies, but that's
(14:50):
still fiction based on reality.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, based on some of these movies. I'm sure you
remember the old black and white not start.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Uptu Oh yeah, yeah, great, great.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
What a hideous looking vampire he was, wasn't.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
He He was very scary. Yeah, he had a different look.
He had definitely a different look.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
And as the vampires evolved, was it all based on
the real life story of Vlad the Impaler.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's one of the concepts I mean goes prior to that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
You know, you can go back as far in the
Bible as Lilith Adam's first wife. I mean she was
a blood drinker, but a lot of it came from
specifical Brahmstroker's concepts about Lady Impala.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What is your favorite piece in the museum?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Get that question a lot. It's really hot to say.
We do have a eighteenth century hearse which is actually
beautiful and it was outfitted to hunt vampire. So the
family would actually travel from various towns throughout Europe and
they would hire themselves to rid the town of so
(15:55):
called vampires.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's fantastic. Does your daughter run the museum?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Well, I have two of my daughters on one North
Carolina ones in London. They do a lot with the
social media. But actually I'm going to be a grandfather,
which is really cool, so we'll do thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So we're doing a lot more in house. I'm Cammi
and Megan.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
And my two main people for the social media, especially Cammy,
she really does a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Do you think at Mondo that there are real vampires today?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Well, we just did a.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Collaboration with a local museum called the Tileworks and we
had lots of people dress up as vampires. We had
Madam X who is a vampire a very lovely person.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's almost sometimes some people consider it like.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
A cosplay thing. They like to dress up. A lot
of people like to dress up in goth and Victorian outfits.
Some people might believe they're a vampire, but in their
way that they.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Want to identify as a vampire.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So I don't believe in that there are vampires roaming
the streets now, just like there was Impromstrokers stories.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But I do believe in demons.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
So that is another, you know, offshoot to the concept
of vampires.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And I'm sure you remember the Hollywood version of Vampira.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Huh. Yes, Yes, there's a lot of good movies.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
As as Hollywood kind of romanticized the vampire.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yes, I mean they bring a sexuality in it. They
bring the concept of momentum more about you know, mortality
and immortality.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean, it's a very seductive concept.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
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