November 7, 2025 • 36 mins
Producer and Filmmaker Tim Burke joins Captain Ron to discuss Hollywood’s portrayal of the UFO phenomenon, UFO disclosure, and significant UFO cases in history.
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each on Beyond Contact.
We'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of
the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from
the newest cases as we talked with the top experts.
Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain ronand today we're
speaking with producer and director Timothy E. Burke. Tim works
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with film producers raising financing for major motion pictures. He
is interested in blending film and technology to deliver innovative,
groundbreaking projects. Tim is also very well versed in all
things UFO. And is developing a TV series titled Shadow State,
which is an X File style supernatural thriller, and has
also created a project called Planet X, which is based
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on the original Sumerian texts. All right, up our alley, Hey, Tim,
how you doing, brother?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm doing fantastic ron Thank you so much for having me.
This is my first public kind of interview podcast on
the phenonmon wab you. So it just came about naturally,
and it's just wonderful to talk to you. I love
meeting you up at your incredible events in the desert,
and I actually invited to go meet Ross cold taught
up there and I ended up having dinner with Danny Sheenan,
which is another obviously huge fan of his work. Incredible
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work both of those guys have done.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Though. Yeah, absolutely, uh okay. Well, before we dive into
the UFO talk, I want to ask you a question
as a filmmaker, how do you feel about the phenomenon
and how it's portrayed in film. It's always frustrating to
me when I see how often it's so misportrayed by Hollywood.
Like I have these discussions numerous times with Travis Walton.
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You know, they made his story in the film. Yeah,
he did a film. They did it called Fire in
the Sky, but he doesn't like it because it's it's so,
you know, misrepresents his version of the state of the tale,
so it's not very accurate in his view. Why can't
they just take his word for word right off the deck,
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right off of what he says. Isn't that interesting enough?
Why doesn't Hollywood just do that?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
That's such a great question. But what just brings to
mind quickly, Number one, I would always go back to
Close Encounter Steven Spielberg, and I love that and I
think anybody thinks that is a fantastically beautifully put together
film that showed a phenomenon at a very incredible way,
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and it's a beauty and obviously the director's cut, Spielberg's
director's cut. I mean, you know, when they find the
boat in the desert, it's just wild, it's so beautiful.
It's just classic Spielberg, and he's one of my absoluteroes.
But going back to Travis, I honestly feel ron it's
not just on just this UFO topic. I feel they
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hash up many different stories throughout history. I mean, you
could argued that you know, the recent Napoleon film, which
I thought in cinema, I thought was pretty good, but
there's always going to be somebody that said, oh, that's
not quite how it happens. Obviously, coming back to his
arsenal portrayal, yes, you know, I mean, how do you
portray what happened to him on film? You know, you're
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always going to get it slightly wrong and other court
you know, they come back. You know, that's a classic thing.
You know, Studio execs and studios have always changed things,
haven't they for audience numbers, whatever, investors, who knows, who knows.
It must be annoying for him, But I feel they
do get it right as well. But this is why
I like documentaries, because documentaries it's much more interesting watching
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a documentary. When it comes to the phenomena, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No doubt about it. Do you do you think it's
possible that there's a connection between Hollywood going back to
say the fifties films when they had like The Day
the Earth Stood Still and those type of films, were
they being used as a soft disclosure? Do you think
as some people hypothesize.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I don't think so, because I just think it's only
natural that filmmakers are going to make movies about sci
fi and the UFOs and you know, the most fascinating
the universe and why we're here. It's the most fascinating topic,
isn't it. So you know, you do hear stories about
CIA being embedded. Definitely the press. I believe that. I
don't know if they're embedded into Hollywood. They probably knock
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on some people's doors. I mean, look, I heard recently
that Parney Netflix aren't taking on any new UFO documentaries.
I was actually text a very famous film. We've all
seen his work about this yesterday. Who knows, but yeah,
going back to the fifties, I mean that was a
good movie. Even the remake with Canneries, that was actually
a good That was a good spin on things. I
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often think what it would be like if they did
land on the White House law and everyone says, oh, well,
why don't they land on the White House? Lam were
nineteen fifty two. They pretty much did over Washington on
two weekends in a row. You can't really get closer
than them literally landing there. And then obviously we are
unfortunately quite a violent race, and you know, we're probably
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just trying to attack them. I think our natural thing
is to attack these things, try and bring them down,
steal the technology, finance technology. On other planets, there would
be a completely different way to summon in or greet
eties extraterrestrials. It will be a completely different way.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, Jim, what get you first interested in this subject?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't really know much. I've always been fascinated in it.
I will actually think about that. The other day somebody
asked me, I've always always been fascinating this subject and
always want to do this kind of New X File
style kind of TV show and then always have this
crazy planet x sci fi star wars on steroids. Really,
but it's very intelligent sci fi because it's all on
a hypervelocity Sara star system. It's on a tidy lot planet.
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It's about Elixa. It's about the mythology of what an
ancient alien race would be like, how they would operate. So,
I mean, you know there's no money on this planet,
money to any other civilization, and be like, well, what
is that? That sounds terrible?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Total We feel that. Do you have a favorite pace
that you like in history?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That's a great Oh my god, I love that. I
don't know I love sha Harbor because that comes to mind,
because I do believe in the submerged UFOs. That was
such an interesting case that they were followed over two weeks,
they were underwatered for a long long time. That for
me was an interesting case. I know a lot of them.
I love the older ones. Shag Harbor definitely comes to mind.
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I mean, honestly, the one I forget the name of it.
The two fishermen and apparently they went up and got
into the spaceship and then at the police station they
were secretly filming their audio.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh yeah, that's the two guys, the two fishermen. Oh
my god, what is his name? Why can't I think
of it?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It was weird because they secretly filmed the audio, and
you would think if they were making it all up,
you know, they'd be like, okay, son, just you know,
you're doing a good job, blah blah blah, go along
with it. But they didn't. They were like, very very
scared when they both left the room. And God, if
that's the case, that is absolutely terrifying. And that's the
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other reason I feel just closure isn't really happening, because
you know, the abduction thing again, I went, you know,
go back to if one part of this is true,
probably the whole thing is true. There's certainly elements of it,
and so therefore the abduction is ductshit cases has probably happened,
probably happening to a lot of people. I mean, I
actually watched the Whitley documentary, the guy that wrote Communion
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the other day.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah, that was you know, it's Calvin Parker and
Charlie Hickson. That's the case you'.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yes, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I tell you what,
here is something for your listeners that they probably would
not have known. This one. For me, it's the most
fascinating one of them mornings. It's it's very unheard one
of the original YouTube guys Alien Case Files or Sealed
Team six. Anyway, there was a fit bit leak, right,
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so all of these security guys had these fit bits,
these these and I wrote about this in the Shadow
in Shadow State because for me, this is like such
an incredible leak. And they all these guys had their
their fitbits and they were doing circles around their military
basis and there were all these different different secret military
bases in Germany all around the world that were discovered
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because there were these fitbid leaks data that was taken
around these militaries, but there was one in Antarctica. There
was these fitbits going around this spot in Antarctica. And look,
Linda Molten, How's creators work is all about Antarctica and
there's something something has gone on there, something might still
be then. And somebody were telling me the other day
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could have been a split Nazi civilization that went on,
because obviously the Nazis had a base in Antarctica, but
maybe they were, let you know, maybe they had a
lot of money. They're okay, guys, you just stay here,
you just living, you know, and we don't ever want
to see you again. But who knows. Who knows. There's
definitely definitely something is going on up there, and that
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was interesting. I'd like to find out where that location
was again.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Actually, brad Olsen's releasing his new book on an Aartica
when he was down there, and he does cite all
these locations where they're located. We need to take a
break here, Tim. When we come back, we're going to
ask you about any experiences that you may have had
directly yourself. You're listening to be an on contact on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Timothy Burke.
Tim have you ever had a personal UFO sighting of
your own?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's so interesting because when I was talking to Richard Dola,
I was driving back from COVID and I was in La.
I'm a pretty level headed guy, but honestly, I freaked
out most I was like, and I was, I got
to get out of La. So I went up to
north of LA and I lived in a beautiful airbnb.
I was actually quite lucky. But anyway, when I was
kind of back three months later or two months, I
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was driving back and I decided to go by the
Big Sir, and I'm up on the Big sur and
it's like, honestly, it was about three am. I hadn't
seen any boats or any lights or anything out to
see that whole drive.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's a good, like six or seven hour drive up
the coast, beautiful drive, and it's just like a movie, honestly,
like a Spielberg movie. I get out of the van
that I'm driving down and it's all foggy. I couldn't
scend thing. But I saw these two huge lights, one
and there were different colored. They were so far apart,
but they were obviously connected, and they were right up
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into the ocean. They were like sitting there, so it
would have been like not far out, probably like twenty
feet out. And I'm like, it's you know, it's like
a movie. It's foggy, you can't make it out. But
why are these two lights right here? I haven't seen
anything all day. I tried to stay up for the
rest of the night. I was a bit I was
a bit scared, actually, so I was like, this is
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the perfect place for Aerial Killer to hang out because
I'm literally the only person in this clip for so
many hours in either way. But I'd like to go
back to that, to that advantage point and check it out,
because again, that's apparently a hotspot, that whole area up,
you know, Catalina dig So. And then there was another
time I saw a couple of orbs down in Florida,
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and that was it, But that was an interesting time. Yeah,
to this day, I just I do know what that was.
And you know, who knows the phenomena I feel plays
tricks on people, you know, it's Oh, was that a thing.
Was it not a thing? You know, it's it's it's
never like plain as day, is it. I don't think no.
I think I'll keep you guess that way right. Very
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rarely do people feel confident in what they saw. You know,
you've been looking at this for quite a long time. Now,
what do you think the source of this phenomenon is?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Are you more of a nuts and bolts that came
across the galaxy kind of guy, or more inter dimensional
or maybe even something else.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I honestly, Ron, I honestly think it goes back to
that famous saying you know where, where are that famous saying,
Oh I heard about I think they're absolutely everywhere. I
actually think we are being inundated by multiple species, multiple civilizations.
It's into dimensional. It's I literally think it's everything. But
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I think it's being so well kept secret. And now
obviously people are coming out and talking about it. But
I literally think it's absolutely everything. And now they're talking
about interdimensional, they're talking about angels and demons and gin
and all the old ancient things that people believed in.
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So it's all part of that. It is part of
our creators. I'm sure of it because I personally believe
in the ancient Adian theory that somebody manipulated our the DNA.
I also believe that, you know, we probably are living
in a huge matrix situation, probably some kind of test.
You know. It's interesting John Lear who really actually told
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George Knapp all about this back in the day. He
talked about us all being containers of the soul. The
bodies irrelevant, it's so what's inside these So and I
believe in heaven and how I really do, and that's
why we will have to do as best we can
on this planet because we probably go somewhere after this.
So but yeah, I absolutely believe in all of it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, the soul comes up a lot even with me,
and other people think that as well. They seem to
think that that could very well, that we're just a vessel,
you know. Tim. There's also the other math. The accepted
age of the universe is thirteen point seven billion years old,
and Earth's only four and a half billion years old,
so you know, you got that. And then our galaxy
alone supposedly has around two hundred billion planets, and they
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now think there's around two hundred trillion galaxies. So there's
a lot of opportunity there, right, Tim.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, I honestly, as crazy as this sounds, and I
don't fully believe this, I really don't, but I don't know.
I just come to think the numbers are so big.
Wouldn't it be easier for them just to make all
this a hologram and it just to be this one Earth?
And because there is these very interesting theories about the
hologram theory, which is interesting. Do we all live in
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the matrix? I don't know. It just seems so insanely
big and vast, and nobody really talked about life on
other planets, so it was always about planet Earth. What
does man want to control planet Earth so much? Why
is it so important? Why is there so many war
Why are they always trying to control Planet Earth? I
don't know, it's interesting. I'm just open to all theories,
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all ideas.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
The simulation theory, Tim is really gaining momentum as well.
And it's interesting that I've recently heard how that the
simulation theory really is about us living by the rules
of a closed system, and that how it doesn't render
these other things until we put these telescopes up and
we could see other galaxies that they weren't even rendered.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's the whole idea of well that has been proven
you see by that very famous experiment with the splits,
you know, shooting the proton through the splits, right, and
then you have something visibly watched the protons go through.
It could be pregnent electrons that I forget and they
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they form differently. So that has been proven, like to
a level. The simulation theory has actually been been proven.
I mean it's it's the observer brilliant, brilliant. Yeah. And
it's interesting because when you play Grand Theft Autech, for example,
that part of the world renders when you go down
to that part of the world. The rest of it
is unrendered until you look at it. So it could
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be in this insanely insanely advanced computer games. And you know,
I was watching this show on Amazon. You know that
even inside the vacuum there is electrons and protons forming,
grabbing energy, moving and then it's it's so interesting. You know,
at the quantum level gets very weird, but I think
gets real strange. I mean, I don't understand it. I
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have no idea, way above my pay grade, but it
is fascinating when you hear about it way, but that
experiment honestly has always interested me, and it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Does add credibility to the simulation theory. What do you
think is the strongest piece of evidence that we have
that the phenomenon is real?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I mean, I'm kind of thinking Roswell because there's so
much evidence, and you know, the book The Day After
Roswell is very very interesting and it talks about what
really happened in detail on that day. I don't know.
I mean, there's that amazing case, you know, with the
Japanese airliner. There's a lot of well documented cases, but
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the older ones of evidence.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Roswell is what I always point to too. There's such
a vast amount of things that fit so well together
in that case that I feel like that is one
of the strongest cases we have with a lot of
reporting evidence. When we come back, we're going to ask
him about his thoughts on government disclosure and his impressions
of the new disclosure film, The Age of Disclosure. You're
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listening to be on Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We are back on
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Beyond Contact talking to Tim Burke. Hey, Tim, what are
your thoughts on an official, big d government disclosure. Do
you think we'll ever get that?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think disclosure as honestly a personal thing. Disclosure doesn't
even interest for some people. You know, they're just more
interested in posting on social media and getting some followers.
And that's great for some people. Disclosure really happens when
you do a deep dive into this subject, and that's
cool because you're really finding out stuff yourself. You're finding
out what's what's real, what's not, what could be real,
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what might not be. I mean, look, it is the
most interesting topic there. It is, hands down. This is
why I love it so much. I talk about it
all the time. It's a very intelligent. It takes a
lot of manpower. It blows your mind really when you
think about it. You know, we are being visited by it.
Who knows. It's interesting the split off civilization. They're definitely
underwater somewhere. Going back to your question, there was an
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amazing footage of an ORB coming into Lanet Earth and
there was a flash. It's actually a teaser trailer for
the Shadow State TV show that I've done. And then
there's a flash and then another ORB shoots out very quickly,
and then this thing just does a right hand and
just heads out. You know, I think that's interesting, and
I actually really think the whole of the Earth is alive,
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is a living organism, living consciousness. You know, when you
get into the whole DMT and all that stuff, you
can kind of like feel that I feel, which would
make sense.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Even the universe is spanding and morphing, so it's all
a living, breathing thing. Yeah, I mean, we all come.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think it's possible more than one of these things
is true. You know, it is possible we had beings
coming from across the galaxy and interdimensionally and perhaps other
ways and or to the afterlife. I think we just
don't know. Yeah. You know, you had a chance to
see the upcoming film Age of Disclosure, which comes out
this November and features thirty four senior US government insiders.
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What did you think of that film?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
The most interesting? I watched it in Austin at the Paramounts.
They had a fantastic They did an incredible job with
that much. I actually met some of the people involved
as well afterwards. I'll tell you something very interesting. What
I discovered from the film was they're trying to figure
out how these UFOs are powered and the energy involved
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in move did these things and there's always a bubble
around the object. So they obviously think that they have
their own dealing in their own time and space and
dimension and the energy that they're needed to create that. Well,
Eric the guy, the PhD guy who's on the film said,
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I don't know how he worked it out. I did
actually ask him. He said, it takes the amount of
en that America uses in one year to parently power
this UFO and for it to be moving in this word.
And I was like, I don't know how you can
work that out, but he said this, and then they
basically think that it's being pulled in. The energy is
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being pulled in, probably by quantum mechanics, like quantum you know,
they're basically pulling in in a kind of quantum way
where it's all connected and maybe through a dice and
a dicense fit because obviously that's the amount of energy
you would need, so they're just pulling an from a place. Obviously,
with you know, quantum mechanics, everything's instant. It can be
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the biggest amount of distance. You know, something here changes
in something that exactly the same time, So that was interesting.
It's beyond me.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, that's probably Eric Davis. That is incredible. Yeah, Tim,
do you think that these hearings are doing us any good?
You know? I was pretty impressed with this last one
with George Knapp, and the questions that were asked were
quite smart and informed. It seemed like some of these
Congress people were familiar with this, you know, knowledge in
this area. What are your impressions of the hearings?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Well, obviously I feel that they're an incredible step forward.
I do feel that these guys, like I do love
the work that Tim Pittchett is doing. And obviously and
I've actually written like characters based on these amazing political
figures in this Shadow State TV show because their works
incredible and it's they're very difficult obviously to be, you know,
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to have a kind of a secret entity trying to
suppress the knowledge which you know, you can understand where
they're coming from, because there is this whole warm war,
which is the technology of alien reverse alien technology from
the Russians and the Chinese that is definitely happening. I
get it. So their job is to get tech technology
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and unfortunately they're just using it for weapons. You know,
it's a shame because you can create these amazing zero
point energy devices and machines that will solve all of
the energy problems. So I wish there we'd been used
for that. But yeah, I mean, obviously the Congress hearings
are great. I mean, I do think they're doing an
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amazing job. They just have to keep on going, you know,
they just have to keep on pushing, and everyone has
to do what they can suppose, you know. And the
people that keep all the secrets, it's a shame. I
wonder how many people there are. It's probably about I
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don't know, who knows, maybe about four hundred, five hundred
people that really know, because it's all very you know,
compartmental life, very yeah, exactly, so you don't really know,
but it's fascinated probably probably all coming. And that's why
I love Ross cotharts work and I really respect his work,
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you know, and shadows State there's a big character written
about his work because he came from Australia to America.
Started trying to figure out all the MJ twelve or
and the relations and who might have been past information
from MJ twelve. Started to put letters out not electronic
but letters through people's you know, postbox, and said, look,
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I'm going to be staying here for six months, and
he started to receive letters back, you know, and then
it was starting to get information. So it's just such.
I mean, from a TV point of view, A created
writers quite a bit like the coolest thriller espionage TV show,
and I obviously love James Bond as well. So it's
just everything. And obviously the congressional things are so important
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when it comes to that as well. Yeah, they just
have to keep on pushing through.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, you're in the technology and filmmaking. What are
your thoughts on all this new tech we're seeing with
AI now being able to create these deep fakes. Much
of this is very photo realistic, and I feel like
if you did actually catch something on video, no one's
gonna believe it anyway, because it can so easily be
faked today.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, I know, and that's maybe why the the ets,
whoever they are, you know, one bros. Maybe they might
have to be like, you know what, we actually might
have to go and land on the Washington you know,
front lawn now because nobody's gonna believe us anyway, that's
so true. I know it's crazy, isn't it. I mean,
AI is getting but look, we're trying to create AI
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models and put in all the UFO cases that you know,
even we have contact with Jack Belaze people to try
and build out a model, an AI model to try
and figure out where these entities are from and you know,
pot spots and what have you. But yeah, you're you're right,
it's impossible. You know, you see so much stuff on
social media now you're like, oh my god, that looks amazing.
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It's you know, you just don't know. You know, probably
a lot of it is AI. You know, it's getting
so easy now. I mean, AI is brilliant. I don't
hate on it. It's fantastic. I love it. You know,
I love physical filmmaking obviously much more so. It's a
happy medium, isn't it. Between AI filmmaking. You know, it's
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the hardest thing trying to fund the film. Even the Grapes,
you know, they said, oh, we spent ninety five of
our times trying to spend the money to make a movie.
That's five percent of our time you know, making the movie.
That's that's no way to live a life.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's what I feel filmmaking is it's raising money to
make a film. It's terrible. When we come back, we're
going to talk to him about the phenomenon being extra
tempestrial us from the future. You're listening to Beyond Contact
on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
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We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Tim Burke. Hey, Tim,
what do you think about that idea? Brother, the extra
tempestrial hypothesis? You know, us coming back from the future,
and that's perhaps who's visiting now.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So here's an interesting one. I was seeing Jerry bi
Corpel's footage of the octopus UFO, right, the one the
thermal image when it comes in and out. If we
went to another plan, we would have a probe, right,
it would come out. It would you know, go into
an alien environment as a program. Would it would fly around,
wouldn't it. I Mean that's exactly what this thing's doing.
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So has it come from the future an object? And
also this this booger spit. It's kind of interesting, isn't it.
You know, maybe that's just been dropped in. Apparently there's
lots and lots of different you know, thermal reading. Did
you see the photage they were trying to steal that
the other day, some fake cops were trying to come
in and steal it. Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
No, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That's you know, that's another crazy scene. But yeah, how
would that even work? Like, how would that even work?
They're in the future, you know, they've invented time travel, right,
and then what they're sending back one of these objects
they're saying about whole ufo. You know, are they downloading
you know, consciousness into a machine, sending back a clone,
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and then uploading the consciousness again into the clown, which
is interesting because that some people think the grades could
be like little biological robots. You know, that made sense.
I mean, I love Side Fi. Planet X was my
first project I ever wrote. I mean, at the time,
fifteen years ago, was you know, I just got to
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LA and I was trying to make one hundred and
fifty million dollar movie with no credit.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
That's a game.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Now actually now with a it's slightly more easier. I
still consume you difficult, but yeah, it's interesting. I mean,
I do not know, I really did listen.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, this is an interesting cops up too, Tim what
about the idea that sci fi TV and movies can
pave the way for the future, like so many things before,
like going to the moon even or FaceTime that we
now all have, you know, Dick Tracy had that seventy
years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I mean I feel, honestly now everything is being done.
I mean literally we have everything. We don't quite have
the Star Trek stuff, you know. I honestly, you think
anything is possible. You know, if you have the technology
and you have the billions of years of below evolution,
I think anything is possible. I mean, look, the universe
is insane, incredible place. It's insane to think we were
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cave men at one point and now we have flying cars.
That for me is just bizarre. It's just it's just
mind blowing and that and that comes down to the Earth.
I mean literally we did all come from planet Earth. Really,
so you could say, really the Earth created created everything,
created man, man created machine, you know, machine created AI.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well, if we don't blow ourselves up, I'd love to
see where we're going to be in a thousand years.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
That is this well, that's you know, I mean that
or it is I mean, God, anybody should watch the
you know, the nuclear arsenal of the planet. It's the
most diabolisical, stupidest thing that we've ever come across and done.
And I don't know why we would have so many
nuclear weapons that could just destroy everything and everybody instantly.
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I mean, it's just absolutely completely insane. And obviously that's
why the UFOs have always been around nuclear silos, you know,
all of the nuclear military installations that they're always keeping
an eye on it. Actually, I tell you what, going
back to the footage the one evidence the Japanese nuclear
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leak after the earthquake, that was very interesting footage with
all those orbs floating around the nuclear power station. That
was very interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, you know, if all this technology
we're talking about, tim, do you think we could have
a real project Bluebeam a staged fake invasion?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
My god, that's such a good question. I mean, are
you obviously following the three i Atlers stuff, aren't you right?
It's just blowing up. You know, that's interesting. There's there's
a thousand Draco soldiers in this AI Atlers. I mean,
it's just and saying how people go and get I
don't know, it's an interesting one. I'm a I love conspiracies.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
So you have these two projects now that are UFO
based at least related to the topic, in Planet X
and Shadow State. Do you have a mission within those
two projects that you're trying to convey.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
It's really I would like to pay homage. I'd really
like to tell the very accurate true story of the
phenomena from the nineteen thirty eight we think that was
the first crash in actually in northern Italy. Mussolini's people
took it, they thought it was from the from the Germans,
and then obviously after the Second World War the Americans
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picked it up. But also paying homage to all of
the big characters, George nat Ross, I mean all of them.
I mean, we've got a whole list of people. I
mean I've been talking to a lot of people. I've
met a lot of them. Danny Sheener's another one. I mean, obviously,
Jeremy Corbell has done a major work, Linda's done and
made Stephen Greer has obviously done great way. I mean,
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you're trying to include everybody and pay a little bit
of homage to everybody, and that's why it'd be nice
to include political people, because they really are shedding lights
on the on the on the topic. You know, the
X five has got terror at the end, I mean
the the end. It started off great. It was so
interesting telling the story from the Men in Black's point
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of view, from the deep state coup or military distri complex,
these secret government bases, that would be kind of interesting.
What do these guys know? You know, I'm sure they
have banks of computers and they are following UFO's ets
coming in and out about amosphere NonStop. I'm sure, I'm
sure they are, and they probably have scalar weapons scaring
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them off. And that's their job. I mean, their job,
from their point of view is probably to protect the
whole planet. So you can understand why. Okay, well, we
can't really tell anybody what's going on, you know, because
our job is probably to protect. But obviously, you know,
we all want to obviously know, and we have a
right to know as well. But yeah, this show will
try and tell the story from their point of view,
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which you know, Antarctica, what happens there. I mean, I
love the stow of ross cool tarts one about this
huge buried UFO that's so big it can't be moved.
I mean, wow, that's fascinating, Like where's there with.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The ice is melting? We might see more of that.
They won't be able to move it, which be really incredible.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
My jobs, it's tough because it's a scripted show. I
would love like Amazon that just bought you know, Aged
disclosure or somebody from Amazon would would be great for this.
I think we'll see, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I do feel like you're very well versed in this
and I really appreciate you taking the time to talk
to us. That was very interesting. Uh, what's the best
place people can reach you?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I'm setting up, like you know, to go into the field,
like you know, like a Fox, Molder and Scully when
they go in the field and they investigate the people
to go an interview be able so to called lights
in sky dot com, lights Insky dot com. There's actually
an email on there you can go to to proton email.
Just send us in an email and then yeah, that's
you know, we're just slowly building out the websites. We've
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got a UFO hotline. I just set up the UFO
hotline on YouTube just before this podcast, so you can
just kind of obviously just add us on there and
then yeah, just contacts us through the website because we're
looking to meet people that want to be on the show.
We're looking to, you know, meet people that living near hotspots,
paranormal hotspots that might know people that would want to
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be interviewed in what have you.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So it'd be a lot of fun to take that
road trip and go see these places in person. We're
out of time here, Tim, Thanks again. You guys can
find me on Twitter and Instagram at cd underscore Captainron.
Stay connected by checking out contact inthedesert dot com. Stay
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each on Beyond Contact.
We'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of
the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from
the newest cases as we talked with the top experts.
Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain ronand today we're
speaking with producer and director Timothy E. Burke. Tim works
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with film producers raising financing for major motion pictures. He
is interested in blending film and technology to deliver innovative,
groundbreaking projects. Tim is also very well versed in all
things UFO. And is developing a TV series titled Shadow State,
which is an X File style supernatural thriller, and has
also created a project called Planet X, which is based
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on the original Sumerian texts. All right, up our alley, Hey, Tim,
how you doing, brother?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I'm doing fantastic ron Thank you so much for having me.
This is my first public kind of interview podcast on
the phenonmon wab you. So it just came about naturally,
and it's just wonderful to talk to you. I love
meeting you up at your incredible events in the desert,
and I actually invited to go meet Ross cold taught
up there and I ended up having dinner with Danny Sheenan,
which is another obviously huge fan of his work. Incredible
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work both of those guys have done.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Though. Yeah, absolutely, uh okay. Well, before we dive into
the UFO talk, I want to ask you a question
as a filmmaker, how do you feel about the phenomenon
and how it's portrayed in film. It's always frustrating to
me when I see how often it's so misportrayed by Hollywood.
Like I have these discussions numerous times with Travis Walton.
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You know, they made his story in the film. Yeah,
he did a film. They did it called Fire in
the Sky, but he doesn't like it because it's it's so,
you know, misrepresents his version of the state of the tale,
so it's not very accurate in his view. Why can't
they just take his word for word right off the deck,
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right off of what he says. Isn't that interesting enough?
Why doesn't Hollywood just do that?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
That's such a great question. But what just brings to
mind quickly, Number one, I would always go back to
Close Encounter Steven Spielberg, and I love that and I
think anybody thinks that is a fantastically beautifully put together
film that showed a phenomenon at a very incredible way,
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and it's a beauty and obviously the director's cut, Spielberg's
director's cut. I mean, you know, when they find the
boat in the desert, it's just wild, it's so beautiful.
It's just classic Spielberg, and he's one of my absoluteroes.
But going back to Travis, I honestly feel ron it's
not just on just this UFO topic. I feel they
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hash up many different stories throughout history. I mean, you
could argued that you know, the recent Napoleon film, which
I thought in cinema, I thought was pretty good, but
there's always going to be somebody that said, oh, that's
not quite how it happens. Obviously, coming back to his
arsenal portrayal, yes, you know, I mean, how do you
portray what happened to him on film? You know, you're
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always going to get it slightly wrong and other court
you know, they come back. You know, that's a classic thing.
You know, Studio execs and studios have always changed things,
haven't they for audience numbers, whatever, investors, who knows, who knows.
It must be annoying for him, But I feel they
do get it right as well. But this is why
I like documentaries, because documentaries it's much more interesting watching
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a documentary. When it comes to the phenomena, I think.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No doubt about it. Do you do you think it's
possible that there's a connection between Hollywood going back to
say the fifties films when they had like The Day
the Earth Stood Still and those type of films, were
they being used as a soft disclosure? Do you think
as some people hypothesize.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I don't think so, because I just think it's only
natural that filmmakers are going to make movies about sci
fi and the UFOs and you know, the most fascinating
the universe and why we're here. It's the most fascinating topic,
isn't it. So you know, you do hear stories about
CIA being embedded. Definitely the press. I believe that. I
don't know if they're embedded into Hollywood. They probably knock
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on some people's doors. I mean, look, I heard recently
that Parney Netflix aren't taking on any new UFO documentaries.
I was actually text a very famous film. We've all
seen his work about this yesterday. Who knows, but yeah,
going back to the fifties, I mean that was a
good movie. Even the remake with Canneries, that was actually
a good That was a good spin on things. I
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often think what it would be like if they did
land on the White House law and everyone says, oh, well,
why don't they land on the White House? Lam were
nineteen fifty two. They pretty much did over Washington on
two weekends in a row. You can't really get closer
than them literally landing there. And then obviously we are
unfortunately quite a violent race, and you know, we're probably
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just trying to attack them. I think our natural thing
is to attack these things, try and bring them down,
steal the technology, finance technology. On other planets, there would
be a completely different way to summon in or greet
eties extraterrestrials. It will be a completely different way.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, Jim, what get you first interested in this subject?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't really know much. I've always been fascinated in it.
I will actually think about that. The other day somebody
asked me, I've always always been fascinating this subject and
always want to do this kind of New X File
style kind of TV show and then always have this
crazy planet x sci fi star wars on steroids. Really,
but it's very intelligent sci fi because it's all on
a hypervelocity Sara star system. It's on a tidy lot planet.
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It's about Elixa. It's about the mythology of what an
ancient alien race would be like, how they would operate. So,
I mean, you know there's no money on this planet,
money to any other civilization, and be like, well, what
is that? That sounds terrible?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Total We feel that. Do you have a favorite pace
that you like in history?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
That's a great Oh my god, I love that. I
don't know I love sha Harbor because that comes to mind,
because I do believe in the submerged UFOs. That was
such an interesting case that they were followed over two weeks,
they were underwatered for a long long time. That for
me was an interesting case. I know a lot of them.
I love the older ones. Shag Harbor definitely comes to mind.
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I mean, honestly, the one I forget the name of it.
The two fishermen and apparently they went up and got
into the spaceship and then at the police station they
were secretly filming their audio.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Oh yeah, that's the two guys, the two fishermen. Oh
my god, what is his name? Why can't I think
of it?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It was weird because they secretly filmed the audio, and
you would think if they were making it all up,
you know, they'd be like, okay, son, just you know,
you're doing a good job, blah blah blah, go along
with it. But they didn't. They were like, very very
scared when they both left the room. And God, if
that's the case, that is absolutely terrifying. And that's the
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other reason I feel just closure isn't really happening, because
you know, the abduction thing again, I went, you know,
go back to if one part of this is true,
probably the whole thing is true. There's certainly elements of it,
and so therefore the abduction is ductshit cases has probably happened,
probably happening to a lot of people. I mean, I
actually watched the Whitley documentary, the guy that wrote Communion
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the other day.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh yeah, that was you know, it's Calvin Parker and
Charlie Hickson. That's the case you'.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yes, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I tell you what,
here is something for your listeners that they probably would
not have known. This one. For me, it's the most
fascinating one of them mornings. It's it's very unheard one
of the original YouTube guys Alien Case Files or Sealed
Team six. Anyway, there was a fit bit leak, right,
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so all of these security guys had these fit bits,
these these and I wrote about this in the Shadow
in Shadow State because for me, this is like such
an incredible leak. And they all these guys had their
their fitbits and they were doing circles around their military
basis and there were all these different different secret military
bases in Germany all around the world that were discovered
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because there were these fitbid leaks data that was taken
around these militaries, but there was one in Antarctica. There
was these fitbits going around this spot in Antarctica. And look,
Linda Molten, How's creators work is all about Antarctica and
there's something something has gone on there, something might still
be then. And somebody were telling me the other day
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could have been a split Nazi civilization that went on,
because obviously the Nazis had a base in Antarctica, but
maybe they were, let you know, maybe they had a
lot of money. They're okay, guys, you just stay here,
you just living, you know, and we don't ever want
to see you again. But who knows. Who knows. There's
definitely definitely something is going on up there, and that
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was interesting. I'd like to find out where that location
was again.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Actually, brad Olsen's releasing his new book on an Aartica
when he was down there, and he does cite all
these locations where they're located. We need to take a
break here, Tim. When we come back, we're going to
ask you about any experiences that you may have had
directly yourself. You're listening to be an on contact on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
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We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking with Timothy Burke.
Tim have you ever had a personal UFO sighting of
your own?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
It's so interesting because when I was talking to Richard Dola,
I was driving back from COVID and I was in La.
I'm a pretty level headed guy, but honestly, I freaked
out most I was like, and I was, I got
to get out of La. So I went up to
north of LA and I lived in a beautiful airbnb.
I was actually quite lucky. But anyway, when I was
kind of back three months later or two months, I
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was driving back and I decided to go by the
Big Sir, and I'm up on the Big sur and
it's like, honestly, it was about three am. I hadn't
seen any boats or any lights or anything out to
see that whole drive.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's a good, like six or seven hour drive up
the coast, beautiful drive, and it's just like a movie, honestly,
like a Spielberg movie. I get out of the van
that I'm driving down and it's all foggy. I couldn't
scend thing. But I saw these two huge lights, one
and there were different colored. They were so far apart,
but they were obviously connected, and they were right up
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into the ocean. They were like sitting there, so it
would have been like not far out, probably like twenty
feet out. And I'm like, it's you know, it's like
a movie. It's foggy, you can't make it out. But
why are these two lights right here? I haven't seen
anything all day. I tried to stay up for the
rest of the night. I was a bit I was
a bit scared, actually, so I was like, this is
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the perfect place for Aerial Killer to hang out because
I'm literally the only person in this clip for so
many hours in either way. But I'd like to go
back to that, to that advantage point and check it out,
because again, that's apparently a hotspot, that whole area up,
you know, Catalina dig So. And then there was another
time I saw a couple of orbs down in Florida,
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and that was it, But that was an interesting time. Yeah,
to this day, I just I do know what that was.
And you know, who knows the phenomena I feel plays
tricks on people, you know, it's Oh, was that a thing.
Was it not a thing? You know, it's it's it's
never like plain as day, is it. I don't think no.
I think I'll keep you guess that way right. Very
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rarely do people feel confident in what they saw. You know,
you've been looking at this for quite a long time. Now,
what do you think the source of this phenomenon is?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Are you more of a nuts and bolts that came
across the galaxy kind of guy, or more inter dimensional
or maybe even something else.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I honestly, Ron, I honestly think it goes back to
that famous saying you know where, where are that famous saying,
Oh I heard about I think they're absolutely everywhere. I
actually think we are being inundated by multiple species, multiple civilizations.
It's into dimensional. It's I literally think it's everything. But
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I think it's being so well kept secret. And now
obviously people are coming out and talking about it. But
I literally think it's absolutely everything. And now they're talking
about interdimensional, they're talking about angels and demons and gin
and all the old ancient things that people believed in.
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So it's all part of that. It is part of
our creators. I'm sure of it because I personally believe
in the ancient Adian theory that somebody manipulated our the DNA.
I also believe that, you know, we probably are living
in a huge matrix situation, probably some kind of test.
You know. It's interesting John Lear who really actually told
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George Knapp all about this back in the day. He
talked about us all being containers of the soul. The
bodies irrelevant, it's so what's inside these So and I
believe in heaven and how I really do, and that's
why we will have to do as best we can
on this planet because we probably go somewhere after this.
So but yeah, I absolutely believe in all of it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, the soul comes up a lot even with me,
and other people think that as well. They seem to
think that that could very well, that we're just a vessel,
you know. Tim. There's also the other math. The accepted
age of the universe is thirteen point seven billion years old,
and Earth's only four and a half billion years old,
so you know, you got that. And then our galaxy
alone supposedly has around two hundred billion planets, and they
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now think there's around two hundred trillion galaxies. So there's
a lot of opportunity there, right, Tim.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, I honestly, as crazy as this sounds, and I
don't fully believe this, I really don't, but I don't know.
I just come to think the numbers are so big.
Wouldn't it be easier for them just to make all
this a hologram and it just to be this one Earth?
And because there is these very interesting theories about the
hologram theory, which is interesting. Do we all live in
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the matrix? I don't know. It just seems so insanely
big and vast, and nobody really talked about life on
other planets, so it was always about planet Earth. What
does man want to control planet Earth so much? Why
is it so important? Why is there so many war
Why are they always trying to control Planet Earth? I
don't know, it's interesting. I'm just open to all theories,
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all ideas.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
The simulation theory, Tim is really gaining momentum as well.
And it's interesting that I've recently heard how that the
simulation theory really is about us living by the rules
of a closed system, and that how it doesn't render
these other things until we put these telescopes up and
we could see other galaxies that they weren't even rendered.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's the whole idea of well that has been proven
you see by that very famous experiment with the splits,
you know, shooting the proton through the splits, right, and
then you have something visibly watched the protons go through.
It could be pregnent electrons that I forget and they
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they form differently. So that has been proven, like to
a level. The simulation theory has actually been been proven.
I mean it's it's the observer brilliant, brilliant. Yeah. And
it's interesting because when you play Grand Theft Autech, for example,
that part of the world renders when you go down
to that part of the world. The rest of it
is unrendered until you look at it. So it could
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be in this insanely insanely advanced computer games. And you know,
I was watching this show on Amazon. You know that
even inside the vacuum there is electrons and protons forming,
grabbing energy, moving and then it's it's so interesting. You know,
at the quantum level gets very weird, but I think
gets real strange. I mean, I don't understand it. I
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have no idea, way above my pay grade, but it
is fascinating when you hear about it way, but that
experiment honestly has always interested me, and it.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Does add credibility to the simulation theory. What do you
think is the strongest piece of evidence that we have
that the phenomenon is real?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I mean, I'm kind of thinking Roswell because there's so
much evidence, and you know, the book The Day After
Roswell is very very interesting and it talks about what
really happened in detail on that day. I don't know.
I mean, there's that amazing case, you know, with the
Japanese airliner. There's a lot of well documented cases, but
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the older ones of evidence.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Roswell is what I always point to too. There's such
a vast amount of things that fit so well together
in that case that I feel like that is one
of the strongest cases we have with a lot of
reporting evidence. When we come back, we're going to ask
him about his thoughts on government disclosure and his impressions
of the new disclosure film, The Age of Disclosure. You're
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listening to be on Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast am Paranormal podcast network. We are back on
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Beyond Contact talking to Tim Burke. Hey, Tim, what are
your thoughts on an official, big d government disclosure. Do
you think we'll ever get that?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
I think disclosure as honestly a personal thing. Disclosure doesn't
even interest for some people. You know, they're just more
interested in posting on social media and getting some followers.
And that's great for some people. Disclosure really happens when
you do a deep dive into this subject, and that's
cool because you're really finding out stuff yourself. You're finding
out what's what's real, what's not, what could be real,
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what might not be. I mean, look, it is the
most interesting topic there. It is, hands down. This is
why I love it so much. I talk about it
all the time. It's a very intelligent. It takes a
lot of manpower. It blows your mind really when you
think about it. You know, we are being visited by it.
Who knows. It's interesting the split off civilization. They're definitely
underwater somewhere. Going back to your question, there was an
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amazing footage of an ORB coming into Lanet Earth and
there was a flash. It's actually a teaser trailer for
the Shadow State TV show that I've done. And then
there's a flash and then another ORB shoots out very quickly,
and then this thing just does a right hand and
just heads out. You know, I think that's interesting, and
I actually really think the whole of the Earth is alive,
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is a living organism, living consciousness. You know, when you
get into the whole DMT and all that stuff, you
can kind of like feel that I feel, which would
make sense.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Even the universe is spanding and morphing, so it's all
a living, breathing thing. Yeah, I mean, we all come.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I think it's possible more than one of these things
is true. You know, it is possible we had beings
coming from across the galaxy and interdimensionally and perhaps other
ways and or to the afterlife. I think we just
don't know. Yeah. You know, you had a chance to
see the upcoming film Age of Disclosure, which comes out
this November and features thirty four senior US government insiders.
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What did you think of that film?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
The most interesting? I watched it in Austin at the Paramounts.
They had a fantastic They did an incredible job with
that much. I actually met some of the people involved
as well afterwards. I'll tell you something very interesting. What
I discovered from the film was they're trying to figure
out how these UFOs are powered and the energy involved
(20:59):
in move did these things and there's always a bubble
around the object. So they obviously think that they have
their own dealing in their own time and space and
dimension and the energy that they're needed to create that. Well,
Eric the guy, the PhD guy who's on the film said,
(21:21):
I don't know how he worked it out. I did
actually ask him. He said, it takes the amount of
en that America uses in one year to parently power
this UFO and for it to be moving in this word.
And I was like, I don't know how you can
work that out, but he said this, and then they
basically think that it's being pulled in. The energy is
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being pulled in, probably by quantum mechanics, like quantum you know,
they're basically pulling in in a kind of quantum way
where it's all connected and maybe through a dice and
a dicense fit because obviously that's the amount of energy
you would need, so they're just pulling an from a place. Obviously,
with you know, quantum mechanics, everything's instant. It can be
(22:08):
the biggest amount of distance. You know, something here changes
in something that exactly the same time, So that was interesting.
It's beyond me.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah, that's probably Eric Davis. That is incredible. Yeah, Tim,
do you think that these hearings are doing us any good?
You know? I was pretty impressed with this last one
with George Knapp, and the questions that were asked were
quite smart and informed. It seemed like some of these
Congress people were familiar with this, you know, knowledge in
this area. What are your impressions of the hearings?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Well, obviously I feel that they're an incredible step forward.
I do feel that these guys, like I do love
the work that Tim Pittchett is doing. And obviously and
I've actually written like characters based on these amazing political
figures in this Shadow State TV show because their works
incredible and it's they're very difficult obviously to be, you know,
(23:06):
to have a kind of a secret entity trying to
suppress the knowledge which you know, you can understand where
they're coming from, because there is this whole warm war,
which is the technology of alien reverse alien technology from
the Russians and the Chinese that is definitely happening. I
get it. So their job is to get tech technology
(23:29):
and unfortunately they're just using it for weapons. You know,
it's a shame because you can create these amazing zero
point energy devices and machines that will solve all of
the energy problems. So I wish there we'd been used
for that. But yeah, I mean, obviously the Congress hearings
are great. I mean, I do think they're doing an
(23:51):
amazing job. They just have to keep on going, you know,
they just have to keep on pushing, and everyone has
to do what they can suppose, you know. And the
people that keep all the secrets, it's a shame. I
wonder how many people there are. It's probably about I
(24:11):
don't know, who knows, maybe about four hundred, five hundred
people that really know, because it's all very you know,
compartmental life, very yeah, exactly, so you don't really know,
but it's fascinated probably probably all coming. And that's why
I love Ross cotharts work and I really respect his work,
(24:31):
you know, and shadows State there's a big character written
about his work because he came from Australia to America.
Started trying to figure out all the MJ twelve or
and the relations and who might have been past information
from MJ twelve. Started to put letters out not electronic
but letters through people's you know, postbox, and said, look,
(24:53):
I'm going to be staying here for six months, and
he started to receive letters back, you know, and then
it was starting to get information. So it's just such.
I mean, from a TV point of view, A created
writers quite a bit like the coolest thriller espionage TV show,
and I obviously love James Bond as well. So it's
just everything. And obviously the congressional things are so important
(25:16):
when it comes to that as well. Yeah, they just
have to keep on pushing through.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, you're in the technology and filmmaking. What are
your thoughts on all this new tech we're seeing with
AI now being able to create these deep fakes. Much
of this is very photo realistic, and I feel like
if you did actually catch something on video, no one's
gonna believe it anyway, because it can so easily be
faked today.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, I know, and that's maybe why the the ets,
whoever they are, you know, one bros. Maybe they might
have to be like, you know what, we actually might
have to go and land on the Washington you know,
front lawn now because nobody's gonna believe us anyway, that's
so true. I know it's crazy, isn't it. I mean,
AI is getting but look, we're trying to create AI
(26:04):
models and put in all the UFO cases that you know,
even we have contact with Jack Belaze people to try
and build out a model, an AI model to try
and figure out where these entities are from and you know,
pot spots and what have you. But yeah, you're you're right,
it's impossible. You know, you see so much stuff on
social media now you're like, oh my god, that looks amazing.
(26:26):
It's you know, you just don't know. You know, probably
a lot of it is AI. You know, it's getting
so easy now. I mean, AI is brilliant. I don't
hate on it. It's fantastic. I love it. You know,
I love physical filmmaking obviously much more so. It's a
happy medium, isn't it. Between AI filmmaking. You know, it's
(26:46):
the hardest thing trying to fund the film. Even the Grapes,
you know, they said, oh, we spent ninety five of
our times trying to spend the money to make a movie.
That's five percent of our time you know, making the movie.
That's that's no way to live a life.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's what I feel filmmaking is it's raising money to
make a film. It's terrible. When we come back, we're
going to talk to him about the phenomenon being extra
tempestrial us from the future. You're listening to Beyond Contact
on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.
(27:33):
We are back on Beyond Contact talking to Tim Burke. Hey, Tim,
what do you think about that idea? Brother, the extra
tempestrial hypothesis? You know, us coming back from the future,
and that's perhaps who's visiting now.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
So here's an interesting one. I was seeing Jerry bi
Corpel's footage of the octopus UFO, right, the one the
thermal image when it comes in and out. If we
went to another plan, we would have a probe, right,
it would come out. It would you know, go into
an alien environment as a program. Would it would fly around,
wouldn't it. I Mean that's exactly what this thing's doing.
(28:10):
So has it come from the future an object? And
also this this booger spit. It's kind of interesting, isn't it.
You know, maybe that's just been dropped in. Apparently there's
lots and lots of different you know, thermal reading. Did
you see the photage they were trying to steal that
the other day, some fake cops were trying to come
in and steal it. Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (28:31):
No, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
That's you know, that's another crazy scene. But yeah, how
would that even work? Like, how would that even work?
They're in the future, you know, they've invented time travel, right,
and then what they're sending back one of these objects
they're saying about whole ufo. You know, are they downloading
you know, consciousness into a machine, sending back a clone,
(28:59):
and then uploading the consciousness again into the clown, which
is interesting because that some people think the grades could
be like little biological robots. You know, that made sense.
I mean, I love Side Fi. Planet X was my
first project I ever wrote. I mean, at the time,
fifteen years ago, was you know, I just got to
(29:20):
LA and I was trying to make one hundred and
fifty million dollar movie with no credit.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
That's a game.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Now actually now with a it's slightly more easier. I
still consume you difficult, but yeah, it's interesting. I mean,
I do not know, I really did listen.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, this is an interesting cops up too, Tim what
about the idea that sci fi TV and movies can
pave the way for the future, like so many things before,
like going to the moon even or FaceTime that we
now all have, you know, Dick Tracy had that seventy
years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I mean I feel, honestly now everything is being done.
I mean literally we have everything. We don't quite have
the Star Trek stuff, you know. I honestly, you think
anything is possible. You know, if you have the technology
and you have the billions of years of below evolution,
I think anything is possible. I mean, look, the universe
is insane, incredible place. It's insane to think we were
(30:15):
cave men at one point and now we have flying cars.
That for me is just bizarre. It's just it's just
mind blowing and that and that comes down to the Earth.
I mean literally we did all come from planet Earth. Really,
so you could say, really the Earth created created everything,
created man, man created machine, you know, machine created AI.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Well, if we don't blow ourselves up, I'd love to
see where we're going to be in a thousand years.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
That is this well, that's you know, I mean that
or it is I mean, God, anybody should watch the
you know, the nuclear arsenal of the planet. It's the
most diabolisical, stupidest thing that we've ever come across and done.
And I don't know why we would have so many
nuclear weapons that could just destroy everything and everybody instantly.
(31:04):
I mean, it's just absolutely completely insane. And obviously that's
why the UFOs have always been around nuclear silos, you know,
all of the nuclear military installations that they're always keeping
an eye on it. Actually, I tell you what, going
back to the footage the one evidence the Japanese nuclear
(31:25):
leak after the earthquake, that was very interesting footage with
all those orbs floating around the nuclear power station. That
was very interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, you know, if all this technology
we're talking about, tim, do you think we could have
a real project Bluebeam a staged fake invasion?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
My god, that's such a good question. I mean, are
you obviously following the three i Atlers stuff, aren't you right?
It's just blowing up. You know, that's interesting. There's there's
a thousand Draco soldiers in this AI Atlers. I mean,
it's just and saying how people go and get I
don't know, it's an interesting one. I'm a I love conspiracies.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
So you have these two projects now that are UFO
based at least related to the topic, in Planet X
and Shadow State. Do you have a mission within those
two projects that you're trying to convey.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
It's really I would like to pay homage. I'd really
like to tell the very accurate true story of the
phenomena from the nineteen thirty eight we think that was
the first crash in actually in northern Italy. Mussolini's people
took it, they thought it was from the from the Germans,
and then obviously after the Second World War the Americans
(32:43):
picked it up. But also paying homage to all of
the big characters, George nat Ross, I mean all of them.
I mean, we've got a whole list of people. I
mean I've been talking to a lot of people. I've
met a lot of them. Danny Sheener's another one. I mean, obviously,
Jeremy Corbell has done a major work, Linda's done and
made Stephen Greer has obviously done great way. I mean,
(33:05):
you're trying to include everybody and pay a little bit
of homage to everybody, and that's why it'd be nice
to include political people, because they really are shedding lights
on the on the on the topic. You know, the
X five has got terror at the end, I mean
the the end. It started off great. It was so
interesting telling the story from the Men in Black's point
(33:25):
of view, from the deep state coup or military distri complex,
these secret government bases, that would be kind of interesting.
What do these guys know? You know, I'm sure they
have banks of computers and they are following UFO's ets
coming in and out about amosphere NonStop. I'm sure, I'm
sure they are, and they probably have scalar weapons scaring
(33:47):
them off. And that's their job. I mean, their job,
from their point of view is probably to protect the
whole planet. So you can understand why. Okay, well, we
can't really tell anybody what's going on, you know, because
our job is probably to protect. But obviously, you know,
we all want to obviously know, and we have a
right to know as well. But yeah, this show will
try and tell the story from their point of view,
(34:10):
which you know, Antarctica, what happens there. I mean, I
love the stow of ross cool tarts one about this
huge buried UFO that's so big it can't be moved.
I mean, wow, that's fascinating, Like where's there with.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The ice is melting? We might see more of that.
They won't be able to move it, which be really incredible.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
My jobs, it's tough because it's a scripted show. I
would love like Amazon that just bought you know, Aged
disclosure or somebody from Amazon would would be great for this.
I think we'll see, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I do feel like you're very well versed in this
and I really appreciate you taking the time to talk
to us. That was very interesting. Uh, what's the best
place people can reach you?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I'm setting up, like you know, to go into the field,
like you know, like a Fox, Molder and Scully when
they go in the field and they investigate the people
to go an interview be able so to called lights
in sky dot com, lights Insky dot com. There's actually
an email on there you can go to to proton email.
Just send us in an email and then yeah, that's
you know, we're just slowly building out the websites. We've
(35:11):
got a UFO hotline. I just set up the UFO
hotline on YouTube just before this podcast, so you can
just kind of obviously just add us on there and
then yeah, just contacts us through the website because we're
looking to meet people that want to be on the show.
We're looking to, you know, meet people that living near hotspots,
paranormal hotspots that might know people that would want to
(35:35):
be interviewed in what have you.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So it'd be a lot of fun to take that
road trip and go see these places in person. We're
out of time here, Tim, Thanks again. You guys can
find me on Twitter and Instagram at cd underscore Captainron.
Stay connected by checking out contact inthedesert dot com. Stay
open minded and rational as we explore the unknown right
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