November 22, 2025 • 16 mins
Guest host Rich Berra and author Angel Millar discuss using magic to transcend the chaos going on around you to create the kind of world you want to live in, the power of hypnosis to overcome trauma and improve brain function, and if there can be unintended consequences from practicing magic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host,
Rich Baron. Tonight we're diving in the worlds of freemasonry,
chaos magic, symbolism in personal transformation with author and researcher
researcher Angel Miller. Born in England and initiated into a
chaos magic order back in nineteen ninety. He later became
(00:25):
a Freemason in New York and gained rare access to
archives most people never even see. He's trained in martial arts,
studied fashion at Central Saint Martin's, spent time in a
Benedictine monastery, and today he blends psychology, spirituality in ancient
wisdom to help people stay centered in a chaotic world.
(00:46):
His new book, which I just got yesterday, is called
Transcend the Chaos. Angel. Millar joins us, Angel, it is
so nice to meet you. Welcome to Coast to Coast, AM.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh, thank you, it's good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I feel like, because you have a British accident, that
everything you say sounds more true than if just a
regular old American bloke, as it were, were to lay
down the lay down the mysteries. I'm trying to figure
out the best way to start with you because you
are You just don't have one topic, you have all
the topics. So tell us. First of all, let's start
(01:20):
with your new book, which I just got. I was
just paging through the Transcend the Chaos. What does that
mean to you? Transcending the chaos?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, perhaps I should, I should say that the working
titles actually transform the chaos, and which I which I like. Really,
it's about recognizing that life is chaos. The world is chaos,
which you know sounds bad obviously, but really, because it
(01:50):
is chaos, it can continually change. It means there's both
dangers and opportunities, and we can mold it, hope fully
in our own image in some respects. And yeah, so
it's really about engaging the world and then transforming this
chaos into a world that, at least for ourselves individually,
(02:14):
that we would want to live in and transcend the
worst elements of the chaos at least.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Have you had luck with transcending and transforming into a
world that you want to see inside the cast? Have
you seen results yourself?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I mean my personal life has
been transformative over the years. Certainly. You know, I never
thought I would ever even visit America, and I've ended
up living here for twenty six years, and I think,
you know, if I take stock of my life, it
(02:54):
is not what people would have expected for me growing up.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
For sure. It's delicious breakfast. What do you think we
get the most right here in America?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
What America gets right most?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah? Yeah, we what do we Because so many people
like to to take apart America? But what now that
you've been here twenty six years, what is it that
you you love? Why do you choose this to be
your home?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, on the note of people taking America apart, of course,
there is nothing as American as criticizing America.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's true. Yeah, we like it's okay if we do it,
but people from outside, when they do it, we don't
like that much.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No, that's right. I mean it's a very Western phenomenon naturally.
But I think what America gets right is that it
still has that attitude of you know, you can you
can make it if you try, or you can make
something of your life or yourself regardless, and that is
much less present in England. Even though the cultures are
(03:56):
in many respects very similar. But but I think that
is really decisive in how people's lives play out, if
you have that attitude or not.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So I feel like that's true. I hope that's still true.
I wonder if that's I think that used to be true,
that if you push hard, that you can make it.
There are signs that we seem to be giving up
on that a little bit. Yes, we want to rip
all that apart and just see, you know what, who
can take care of us? Which is a little alarming.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes, yeah, that's right. I mean, it's definitely going in
a much more sort of British direction where you know,
Americans now younger Americans anyway, you want the government to
look after you, and you know, I can tell you
from experience that that never really works. Do you just
open yourself up for a whole host of other problems?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sounds it sounds good, doesn't it. That sounds great, But
it doesn't work. No, it hasn't yet anyway. So now
your background includes cass magic in the early nineties. Yeah,
can you explain that to me a little bit? What
is chaos magic?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Sure, So it's sort of embryonic during the nineteen seventies.
I was too young for it then, but the original
sort of chaos magicians, which they may not even really
have been calling themselves chaos magicians at that time, but
they had this idea that they were going to reject
the sort of old school, old fashioned, very technical magic
(05:30):
of the audo temporary orientis and the Golden Dawn, which
were very much dominant in British occultism of that time,
and they were going to draw on whatever they liked
to make up their own rituals, and you know, it'd
be much freer with occultism, so to the point where,
(05:52):
at least during the late eighties, you know, if you
wanted to perform rituals to a cartoon character, then you
could do that, which of course would have been absolutely
unthinkable before. And I didn't actually see that, but that
was an idea and some people did do that. So
it's got a much more sort of experimental approach to magic.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Let me ask this as sort of a very naive person.
All this stuff is these are corners of things that
I have heard about in my personal life, but I've
not been exposed to in any way. So you're going
to have to I say this on the show a
lot talk to me like I'm in fourth grade about
the magic part of it. So is magic real?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, that's a good question, but I think we'd have
to say that magic itself has changed enormously over the
centuries and over the millennia, of course, so that you know,
if you go back to the medieval period, magic in
the West is going to be lengthy rituals performed. You
(07:00):
conjure up a or to make an angel appear, that
would give you knowledge of God, and it would be
heavily Christian, and of course there would be a belief
that Jesus is entirely real, These saints are entirely real,
Angels are real, God is real, and it's all literal,
and it's all coming from the Bible. Whereas you know,
(07:22):
magic during let's say the twentieth century, there's a much
bigger emphasis on psychology. It's heavily influenced by Carl Jung
in particular, and yeah, it's a much more of psychological approach,
and I think in many respects, you know, there's not
a lot of sort of psychological continuation between the two,
(07:47):
even though people might be performing rituals that are similar
or in some cases even the same. The sort of
mentality behind them is very different. But chaos magic is
is in many respects similar to hypnosis.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well you've got one of those voices. I bet you
could hypnotize somebody pretty quick. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well, I actually am certified as a hypnotist, so I
can hypnotize people pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, I've had lots of experience with that over
the years, even coming from a very Catholic family. I
think I've talked about on the show. At some point,
my mom had a really bad car accident and she
had agrophobia. She just could not go outside. She couldn't
imagine even walking outside, much less getting back into a car,
and so many things we tried, and my parents somehow
(08:38):
landed on hypnosis and it worked wonders and I think
for me later in life, maybe even about four years ago,
I went to go see a hypnosis just hypnotist, just
because I thought it might be a good thing to
put on this show, and I thought I'd try to experience.
And one of the things I worked on was just
(08:59):
rem bring things, and boy did that open up the
vault to download you know, just nothing toumatic, but just
memories things like even though things as easy as remembering
song lyrics when I go on stage and play with
my band, it's almost like there's a whole room of
things that you can just find under hypnosis that just
kind of rewires the sockets to turn the different lights.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, But in regards to your earlier question, Yeah,
so chaos magic is it has some similarities to hypnosis
in that, you know, if you become a certified hypnotist,
you don't have to do hypnosis in the same way
that your teacher did it or the school that taught
(09:44):
you did it. You know, you just use whatever is
effective and maybe you have techniques from somewhere else. And
so chaos magic is like that. There is a big
emphasis on what they would call nosis, which to other
people who would just called tramp. But yeah, so you know,
entering a trance, visualizing certain things, trying to embody certain
(10:07):
you know, let's say, deit ease or whatever it may be.
You know, it definitely it definitely has an effect. Whether
it has the effect that you would want is another matter,
but it definitely has some effect.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, Well, if you open up that door, do you
open up other doors that maybe you weren't intending to.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, I would say, you know, I've been involved in
the occult since I was seventeen, and that's about thirty
seven years at this point, if I'm doing the math correctly.
And yeah, so I've seen, you know, people up close
and from Afar practicing magic, and very often, if not
(10:51):
most often, people can run into problems and get very
different results to what they were expecting.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So, yeah, what drew you to it? You said, since
you were seventeen? When drew you to it? Originally?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
So, well, originally, when I was fifteen, I saw a
book on astral projection and the elements, the four Elements,
and I bought it inst at a local bookstore. I
bought it and I tried to do it, and I
didn't really understand it. And then later on I developed
(11:31):
a little bit of an interest in paganism. But I
think I probably just read one book, a book of
pagan rituals, and then you know, which are near neopagan
sort of Wiccan rituals, modern rituals. And then and then
when I was seventeen, some friends of mine said, oh,
we've been going to this hippie Sharp and you should,
you should come, And then I did. And as I
(11:54):
walked in and I realized, oh, this isn't a cult shop.
There's two big bookcases of books. So I started I
started hanging around there, and at one point I've virtually
lived there and spent my days there and evenings there.
So it became very involved, and it was a sort
of neo pagan scene around that Sharp and the owner
(12:17):
of it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I guess, if you think about it, be a cult
around history has been around as long as religion itself.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yes, yeah, I suppose some people would even say that
it's been around before religion, because you know, you would
have sort of tribal shamans performing magical rituals to control
spirits or cure people of diseases and so on. But
I'm not an anthropologist, so I couldn't say whether religion
(12:50):
came before or after that. But certainly occultism in one
form or another has been around for in many millennia.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So when you take things from you know, the many millennia,
the is some of it just you know, let's say,
tribes people maybe just taking mushrooms and kind of tripping out,
and maybe that doesn't doesn't apply or is there a
little bit of actual effectiveness to be gleaned from every tribe,
(13:19):
from every type of Uh, I don't know practice that's
out there. How do we know what's the stuff that
works and what's the stuff that is maybe just traditional
and not connecting anything.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, that's a good, good question. Yeah, yeah, Well so
you know, Rene gained On is a French metaphysician. He
founded the school of Traditionalism, which which came out of theosophy,
and there's a belief that we're all religions teach this
primordial truth, but they've all just received a fragment of it,
(13:56):
at least all of the major religions. And you know,
they a traditionalist would want to join a traditional Catholic
order or become a Sufi Muslim in Egypt or whatever
it is, and just do whatever is being done for
hundreds of years or more. But I think the problem
with that is, you know, things, things stagnate and they
(14:22):
kind of lose their essence in a way, and you
kind of have to rediscover what the essence of the
tradition is, whether you know whether that's desirable or not.
To sort of keep rediscovering it and reinventing it. I'm
not sure, but that is the case. And yeah, so
there's lots and lots of different practices out there, and
(14:44):
some of them will kind of lose the essence, so
you know, you kind of have to keep rediscovering it
rather like hypnosis.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Almost like reigniting the flame for it. Right, And we
have so many we have so many topics that you've
been through, So I kind of want to lock in
on a few things tonight in our in our hour
and a half that we have together. So one of
the things I want to ask you about is can
you help us tonight figure out how to navigate a
little bit of that for ourselves. So the thing that
(15:15):
you talk about actually transcending and transforming the chaosk maybe
the baby steps on how to do that where you
can kind of feel what's happening and then uh, move
the world. Because what it sounds like you're saying is
what you hear a lot of people say that if
we're if we are living in a simulation of sorts,
a matrix of sorts, then how manipulatable is that for
(15:39):
our better good or even on a simple simple version
of that for your happiness? Where you can see the chaos,
but it doesn't it doesn't burn through you.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So we'll be able to do that as well.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Right, yeah, well, give it a go.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Giving it a go is what we're all about here
on Coast to Coast.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host,
Rich Baron. Tonight we're diving in the worlds of freemasonry,
chaos magic, symbolism in personal transformation with author and researcher
researcher Angel Miller. Born in England and initiated into a
chaos magic order back in nineteen ninety. He later became
(00:25):
a Freemason in New York and gained rare access to
archives most people never even see. He's trained in martial arts,
studied fashion at Central Saint Martin's, spent time in a
Benedictine monastery, and today he blends psychology, spirituality in ancient
wisdom to help people stay centered in a chaotic world.
(00:46):
His new book, which I just got yesterday, is called
Transcend the Chaos. Angel. Millar joins us, Angel, it is
so nice to meet you. Welcome to Coast to Coast, AM.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh, thank you, it's good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I feel like, because you have a British accident, that
everything you say sounds more true than if just a
regular old American bloke, as it were, were to lay
down the lay down the mysteries. I'm trying to figure
out the best way to start with you because you
are You just don't have one topic, you have all
the topics. So tell us. First of all, let's start
(01:20):
with your new book, which I just got. I was
just paging through the Transcend the Chaos. What does that
mean to you? Transcending the chaos?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, perhaps I should, I should say that the working
titles actually transform the chaos, and which I which I like. Really,
it's about recognizing that life is chaos. The world is chaos,
which you know sounds bad obviously, but really, because it
(01:50):
is chaos, it can continually change. It means there's both
dangers and opportunities, and we can mold it, hope fully
in our own image in some respects. And yeah, so
it's really about engaging the world and then transforming this
chaos into a world that, at least for ourselves individually,
(02:14):
that we would want to live in and transcend the
worst elements of the chaos at least.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Have you had luck with transcending and transforming into a
world that you want to see inside the cast? Have
you seen results yourself?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I mean my personal life has
been transformative over the years. Certainly. You know, I never
thought I would ever even visit America, and I've ended
up living here for twenty six years, and I think,
you know, if I take stock of my life, it
(02:54):
is not what people would have expected for me growing up.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
For sure. It's delicious breakfast. What do you think we
get the most right here in America?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
What America gets right most?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah? Yeah, we what do we Because so many people
like to to take apart America? But what now that
you've been here twenty six years, what is it that
you you love? Why do you choose this to be
your home?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, on the note of people taking America apart, of course,
there is nothing as American as criticizing America.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's true. Yeah, we like it's okay if we do it,
but people from outside, when they do it, we don't
like that much.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No, that's right. I mean it's a very Western phenomenon naturally.
But I think what America gets right is that it
still has that attitude of you know, you can you
can make it if you try, or you can make
something of your life or yourself regardless, and that is
much less present in England. Even though the cultures are
(03:56):
in many respects very similar. But but I think that
is really decisive in how people's lives play out, if
you have that attitude or not.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So I feel like that's true. I hope that's still true.
I wonder if that's I think that used to be true,
that if you push hard, that you can make it.
There are signs that we seem to be giving up
on that a little bit. Yes, we want to rip
all that apart and just see, you know what, who
can take care of us? Which is a little alarming.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes, yeah, that's right. I mean, it's definitely going in
a much more sort of British direction where you know,
Americans now younger Americans anyway, you want the government to
look after you, and you know, I can tell you
from experience that that never really works. Do you just
open yourself up for a whole host of other problems?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sounds it sounds good, doesn't it. That sounds great, But
it doesn't work. No, it hasn't yet anyway. So now
your background includes cass magic in the early nineties. Yeah,
can you explain that to me a little bit? What
is chaos magic?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Sure, So it's sort of embryonic during the nineteen seventies.
I was too young for it then, but the original
sort of chaos magicians, which they may not even really
have been calling themselves chaos magicians at that time, but
they had this idea that they were going to reject
the sort of old school, old fashioned, very technical magic
(05:30):
of the audo temporary orientis and the Golden Dawn, which
were very much dominant in British occultism of that time,
and they were going to draw on whatever they liked
to make up their own rituals, and you know, it'd
be much freer with occultism, so to the point where,
(05:52):
at least during the late eighties, you know, if you
wanted to perform rituals to a cartoon character, then you
could do that, which of course would have been absolutely
unthinkable before. And I didn't actually see that, but that
was an idea and some people did do that. So
it's got a much more sort of experimental approach to magic.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Let me ask this as sort of a very naive person.
All this stuff is these are corners of things that
I have heard about in my personal life, but I've
not been exposed to in any way. So you're going
to have to I say this on the show a
lot talk to me like I'm in fourth grade about
the magic part of it. So is magic real?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, that's a good question, but I think we'd have
to say that magic itself has changed enormously over the
centuries and over the millennia, of course, so that you know,
if you go back to the medieval period, magic in
the West is going to be lengthy rituals performed. You
(07:00):
conjure up a or to make an angel appear, that
would give you knowledge of God, and it would be
heavily Christian, and of course there would be a belief
that Jesus is entirely real, These saints are entirely real,
Angels are real, God is real, and it's all literal,
and it's all coming from the Bible. Whereas you know,
(07:22):
magic during let's say the twentieth century, there's a much
bigger emphasis on psychology. It's heavily influenced by Carl Jung
in particular, and yeah, it's a much more of psychological approach,
and I think in many respects, you know, there's not
a lot of sort of psychological continuation between the two,
(07:47):
even though people might be performing rituals that are similar
or in some cases even the same. The sort of
mentality behind them is very different. But chaos magic is
is in many respects similar to hypnosis.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well you've got one of those voices. I bet you
could hypnotize somebody pretty quick. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well, I actually am certified as a hypnotist, so I
can hypnotize people pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You know, I've had lots of experience with that over
the years, even coming from a very Catholic family. I
think I've talked about on the show. At some point,
my mom had a really bad car accident and she
had agrophobia. She just could not go outside. She couldn't
imagine even walking outside, much less getting back into a car,
and so many things we tried, and my parents somehow
(08:38):
landed on hypnosis and it worked wonders and I think
for me later in life, maybe even about four years ago,
I went to go see a hypnosis just hypnotist, just
because I thought it might be a good thing to
put on this show, and I thought I'd try to experience.
And one of the things I worked on was just
(08:59):
rem bring things, and boy did that open up the
vault to download you know, just nothing toumatic, but just
memories things like even though things as easy as remembering
song lyrics when I go on stage and play with
my band, it's almost like there's a whole room of
things that you can just find under hypnosis that just
kind of rewires the sockets to turn the different lights.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, But in regards to your earlier question, Yeah,
so chaos magic is it has some similarities to hypnosis
in that, you know, if you become a certified hypnotist,
you don't have to do hypnosis in the same way
that your teacher did it or the school that taught
(09:44):
you did it. You know, you just use whatever is
effective and maybe you have techniques from somewhere else. And
so chaos magic is like that. There is a big
emphasis on what they would call nosis, which to other
people who would just called tramp. But yeah, so you know,
entering a trance, visualizing certain things, trying to embody certain
(10:07):
you know, let's say, deit ease or whatever it may be.
You know, it definitely it definitely has an effect. Whether
it has the effect that you would want is another matter,
but it definitely has some effect.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, Well, if you open up that door, do you
open up other doors that maybe you weren't intending to.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, I would say, you know, I've been involved in
the occult since I was seventeen, and that's about thirty
seven years at this point, if I'm doing the math correctly.
And yeah, so I've seen, you know, people up close
and from Afar practicing magic, and very often, if not
(10:51):
most often, people can run into problems and get very
different results to what they were expecting.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So, yeah, what drew you to it? You said, since
you were seventeen? When drew you to it? Originally?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
So, well, originally, when I was fifteen, I saw a
book on astral projection and the elements, the four Elements,
and I bought it inst at a local bookstore. I
bought it and I tried to do it, and I
didn't really understand it. And then later on I developed
(11:31):
a little bit of an interest in paganism. But I
think I probably just read one book, a book of
pagan rituals, and then you know, which are near neopagan
sort of Wiccan rituals, modern rituals. And then and then
when I was seventeen, some friends of mine said, oh,
we've been going to this hippie Sharp and you should,
you should come, And then I did. And as I
(11:54):
walked in and I realized, oh, this isn't a cult shop.
There's two big bookcases of books. So I started I
started hanging around there, and at one point I've virtually
lived there and spent my days there and evenings there.
So it became very involved, and it was a sort
of neo pagan scene around that Sharp and the owner
(12:17):
of it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I guess, if you think about it, be a cult
around history has been around as long as religion itself.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yes, yeah, I suppose some people would even say that
it's been around before religion, because you know, you would
have sort of tribal shamans performing magical rituals to control
spirits or cure people of diseases and so on. But
I'm not an anthropologist, so I couldn't say whether religion
(12:50):
came before or after that. But certainly occultism in one
form or another has been around for in many millennia.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
So when you take things from you know, the many millennia,
the is some of it just you know, let's say,
tribes people maybe just taking mushrooms and kind of tripping out,
and maybe that doesn't doesn't apply or is there a
little bit of actual effectiveness to be gleaned from every tribe,
(13:19):
from every type of Uh, I don't know practice that's
out there. How do we know what's the stuff that
works and what's the stuff that is maybe just traditional
and not connecting anything.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, that's a good, good question. Yeah, yeah, Well so
you know, Rene gained On is a French metaphysician. He
founded the school of Traditionalism, which which came out of theosophy,
and there's a belief that we're all religions teach this
primordial truth, but they've all just received a fragment of it,
(13:56):
at least all of the major religions. And you know,
they a traditionalist would want to join a traditional Catholic
order or become a Sufi Muslim in Egypt or whatever
it is, and just do whatever is being done for
hundreds of years or more. But I think the problem
with that is, you know, things, things stagnate and they
(14:22):
kind of lose their essence in a way, and you
kind of have to rediscover what the essence of the
tradition is, whether you know whether that's desirable or not.
To sort of keep rediscovering it and reinventing it. I'm
not sure, but that is the case. And yeah, so
there's lots and lots of different practices out there, and
(14:44):
some of them will kind of lose the essence, so
you know, you kind of have to keep rediscovering it
rather like hypnosis.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Almost like reigniting the flame for it. Right, And we
have so many we have so many topics that you've
been through, So I kind of want to lock in
on a few things tonight in our in our hour
and a half that we have together. So one of
the things I want to ask you about is can
you help us tonight figure out how to navigate a
little bit of that for ourselves. So the thing that
(15:15):
you talk about actually transcending and transforming the chaosk maybe
the baby steps on how to do that where you
can kind of feel what's happening and then uh, move
the world. Because what it sounds like you're saying is
what you hear a lot of people say that if
we're if we are living in a simulation of sorts,
a matrix of sorts, then how manipulatable is that for
(15:39):
our better good or even on a simple simple version
of that for your happiness? Where you can see the chaos,
but it doesn't it doesn't burn through you.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So we'll be able to do that as well.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Right, yeah, well, give it a go.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
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