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-- The need to recheck your rifle's aim after changing ammunition.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
So you've made it through three hours of the regular
show on terrestrial radio and you wanted a.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Little bit more.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So that's why you found the Gun Talk After Show
podcast where we saved all the best things that we
can't say on regular radio.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Now here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the Gun Talk
After Show.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
All right, welcome to the after Show. We have Jim Canci,
Michelle Cleland.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Hello folks, heh Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I hope you've shut off the phone so those pesky
callers won't bother me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, geez pete. It's all they want to do is
talk about guns.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Talk about guns again. Tee means I'm again. Geez see,
I've got this twenty five even I want to do
something with it. Yeah, I can tell you what to
do with it. But we can't put that on.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
The air, Okay, but we can on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh there you go. All right. Oh, there was one
story I forgot to mention. I got to get this
out there that you'll appreciate. This one Federal Appeals Court
in New Orleans ruled that illegal aliens do not have
the right to keep it their arms under the Second Amendment.
Wow okay, Oh because they're not American citizens.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is that common sense?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, but there has to be a ruling otherwise it
didn't get discussed.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Follow the law.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
This will irritate the Jesus out of some folks who
they will appeal it to say we no, no, because you
know now that we have invited them into our country,
they are a guests and they should have all our rights. Yeah,
also all our money. We'll put it up in high
rights hotels. How about that? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I can hear their slogan right now. If Trump voters
can have guns, so can our people.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
He went way. How about Venezuela and gangs taking over
the park accomplished? Sure?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sure, hope did you.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
See that video of that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I hope they clean the pool.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh my gosh, what a mess. You're like, Okay, you know,
why would you need to need or one an a
ar fifteen? Yeah, because there are four to six people
with guns outside your door.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Right okay, and they're just trying to make room for
more of their members. According to what I've read.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Uh, probably so time to clean them out. Uh, with
whatever that takes. I'm sorry, just I'm just gonna get
it out there. Just just do it, dron them, drone them.
I thought you meant we were just supposed to drone
on about that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I think that's kind of given.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh yeah, that's right. Well, yes, what else is do nothing?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I got to mention smart carry. We haven't talked about
that in a while.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I loved mine. I everyone used it in a couple
of years, but I loved it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
What a great concept. And then you know, thinking under
a bib overall that would be.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Perfect, right, and where it's located, it's not going to
get in the way of anything I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
It just begs for all these responses that I cannot give.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Move on, Moving on.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
On a more somber on a more somber topic. I
was in a really good mood until I heard Nikki's
interview and then just kind of just locked the wind
out of my sail.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
That was a horrible story. I mean, the stalker followed her,
stalked her. I mean when they arrested and they found
you extra guns, rope, I mean, all the stuff you
need for kidnapping, and everything else. It's like, I'm just
and this is a guy with some serious mental problems.
And when she asked the restaurant to have him remove
(03:42):
from the restaurant, uh, he just killed her husband, shot
him seven times for the forty five right there in
the middle of the restaurant. It's like, Okay, crazy shows
up a lot of different places. I remind myself of
that when I think, well, I'm just going to run
into our little town here, why would I need to
carry my gun? Think? Yeah, because crazy is everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, and of course the worst thing is she was
in a gun free zone, following the law as US
gun people typically do, and got caught.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Up in that exact same thing that happened to Susannah Hup,
I mean, went into Luby's cafeteria, left her gun out
there because they had a no gun signs gun free zone,
watched this guy drive into the place and kill her
parents right in front of her. I have pretty much
adopted the attitude that. And here's the thing. In most states,
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if you and you need to know the law, But
in most states, if you carry into a place that's
posted that's not off limits by law, they just put
up an open goost office or something. Right, Yeah, post
offices it's off limits by law. But restaurants they put
up signs that kind of a deal. All they can
do is ask you to leave, so you're okay. Remember one,
(04:56):
They're not going to find it unless I have to
pull it out and use it. Then I don't care.
And if they asked me to leave, I'll leave. Now.
If you they ask you to leave, you don't leave.
That's trespassed. I can call you on that. But it's
like I kind if I'm not paying a lot of
attention to those signs anymore for the very I mean,
Nikki is a prime example.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Right, Wait a minute, are you saying that murderers would
be willing to break the law.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Unbelievable shocking, I know.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And if they're going to break the law, why should
I make myself vulnerable to them by obeying the law?
That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
What Tom's a really good guy to still be with
us today, if you.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, it's a shame that he followed followed the law. Actually,
in this case, just followed the request of the equality owners.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The policy.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
We have a policy about that. Yeah, well you know what,
I have my own policy how's that. You know I'm
going to take care of myself and my family. Duh.
So Michelle, you like my idea of my new rifle.
I just got this.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, it gives you the best and least recoil.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right without an yammel. It's got no recoil.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
That is just the quietest gun I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's being made, but no, I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It gives you the option for bigger game and rider game.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, it's a it's a thumper. What do you guess,
thirty one thirty uh feet product? Yeah, out of one
hundred and sixty five gring bullet. Yeah, but with a
like a two hundred and ten grain to twenty five,
you're down to twenty six to twenty seven real fast, unusable.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
We'll just remind everybody that he did say it was
an ultra light.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
It is a six and a quarter pound rifle with
you got you start crying as soon as you pull
the sugar.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh what a dude. I never saw a guy with
three shoulder fats.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But yeah, okay, that's when they say they make your
first shot count town.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Because I'll be just curled up in the feet of
position after that.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I have a surgeon on calle.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Rolled down the mountain side. I'm not sure what happened,
but he shot around and.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
He tied around and then he checked himself into the yar. Okay, actually,
it's not bad that the design on this gun has
that straight stock where you almost can't get the bolt
out when you're removing it. So the comb is very high.
You get that straight recoil back. It really doesn't kick much.
You know, this is the fourth one of these I've
(07:35):
gotten on a tear of buying these.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
See their allack? Yeah, yeah, Jim and I.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Were talking about that phrase being on a tear and
not a terror t e a r being on a tear.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So I've been buying ultra light arms because you don't
find the left handed it's very often, I mean you
don't find ultra light arms for sale very often actually,
but the left handed was even less.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So you drive with your right arm because you're gonna
need it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Have a sling. But you know that textas into the
whole idea when you have your arm and a sling,
how do you have a holster inside of your sling?
Sling carry?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's like that smart carry.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
That smart scary aUI.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You have one of those in your med kit, sling.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, really exactly right. It's like I'm going to take
some ibuprofen now because I'm going to be shooting my
gun later, and.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's a prophylactic move.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Do they still make They used to make the shirts
that had like the extra padding up around the shoulders
and side.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Do they still sk Shooters used that? But what I
used is you know that past brand PSD. I have
like three of those and you just put it on
over your shirt and those things work great. Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They had some specialized for women, did they Yes? They did,
because women are different well hooked onto the.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Trap. Yeah, I'm hanging out of mind.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No way.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You couldn't get to me anyways.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, that's a story that would I don't know if
I want you to tell that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We won't share it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Ah right, Okay, I just think a quick break. We'll
come back and wrap this thing up, because I know
you guys actually have lives to get to, unlike.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Some of the I mean the barbecue grill out there,
is that what you mean?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
All of that thing.
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Speaker 4 (10:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, that's a nice re entry.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I like to like that. That re entry you just made. That.
We're just going to use that one. By the way,
just a big shout out to my wife for putting
up with me for fifty one years as of today.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Wow, she is a strong woman.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
She is that and then some or she's just forgotten
who I am and it just works out. Well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So it's okay, Well you built the studio, so how
much time do you spend up there versus.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I don't know. She's changed the lot.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
There you go, Well, want summer one to call her
Sally for some reason, it's right, no fording address, So.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, we've had a lot of adventures. We've moved all
of the country we've lived in, got a lot of states,
all of the A states except for Arkansas, Alabama, Alaska,
and Arizona. And I kind of forgo the whole Arkansas thing,
although Arkansas has got some beautiful parts of it really does.
So anyway, we did that, and actually, you know, my
(11:18):
wife is an example of somebody who can shoot and
has a gun, but that's just not her thing. Every
want to go out to the range and shoot. She'll
go out occasionally and shoot. And when she does, she
shoots very well. And she's had some good instruction and.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
She and he's helped her too.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Well, maybe that's right. She had good instruction and I helped,
and then the instruction helps to overcome.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
My and she gets remedial.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I said, that's very nice. Now try it this way.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's working well for you. I see you're hitting all exes.
But what about this.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Exactly? Hey, if you notice that there are just like
new guns coming out like crazy, are there?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I hadn't noticed.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You hadn't noticed, right, Yeah? And I know gun sales
are down generally, and course, I mean the gun company
is trying to pump that up with some new models.
Which makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's twofold, though, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
It's kind of twofold because the gun rush are twenty
and twenty one, and then now the economy in the tank.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, yeah, exactly, it's combined so much so that I
mean a lot of gun stores are reporting people are
coming back in and selling guns just because it's just
hard to make a living and pay for groceries and
everything else, and they've got you know, there's money and
guns and you can always sell them. So people are
selling guns at the same time that a lot of
(12:41):
other people are buying guns. It's just it's a weird
situation we're.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
In right now, right and politically, with the with the
political year, with the election year being this year, it
wouldn't typically.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Be that way.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Good point, Yeah, a good point.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
People would normally be purchasing and holding on to them
in fear of that.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Dot because normally, traditionally they've had the money. This economy
is really in the d I mean, look at grocery
prices and stuff. Before you even look at stuff like ammal.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh yeah, I can afford AMMO.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know, with the right ammal, you can afford you
can get the food. You can go out back and
get the food.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, yeah, she can afford AMML because she goes and
takes it from her husband. I remember Rob Latham said
he went on like one of his three four week trips.
He goes on doing competition. All he gets back, he says,
where'd all my Ammo go? And his wife Kip? He said, Rob,
I was practicing. She shot up like twelve thousand rounds
(13:38):
of nine.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
She must have she must have had all of her
gales over.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's a good afternoon, man, some serious shooting going on there.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I miss those days of all the miscellaneous twenty two's
that would just go on the coffee.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Can you know, Oh gosh, what you wouldn't do to
have it.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But at the same time, I wouldn't want those days
back because that was precious time that my children got
to enjoy.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But you know.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
You never thought about the analytics under your seat, Tom,
I've got some of the coffee, coffee holder.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You know you don't, Jim, I cleaned out your car.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I know that I could never drive into Mexico with
my car. Yeah, I would have to buy a brand
new car or rent something.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To go down. Don't go north either.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Well, yeah, you know you're right. I'm just hearing from
some folks who are running into issues with their guns
going into Canada.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, yep, absolutely, so it's a real problem.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
So it's like okay, and people need to understand if
they don't cross the border very often, customs, both US
and Canada. Uh, customs have almost unlimited ability to search
and do whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
They want to do, anything they want to do.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
So keep your mouth shut, be polite, and just suck
it up and put up with it because smart enough
just means they're going to tear your car apart.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And they don't have to put it back together. No, no,
I just I just sweat a lot in twitch. It
seems to work real well, that's just normal for you.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You don't even look at them like nont whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Just Canada.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
For actually most countries, there's no problem leaving the country
you're in.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
They don't care what you have.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's you're over there. Coming back to the US could
be a real issue too. Absolutely, So it's just like, yes,
put up with it here it is. Or if you
want to go to Alaska, just fly all the way
there and don't.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Go through Canada, right, you get there faster too.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh oh, we're talking about holsters for a second time,
because during the break we were talking about this. Oh yeah, yeah,
you mentioned you've got all these holsters now and you
don't know what gun they're for. The manufacturers don't put
anything on the holster to market for what gun is for.
So do you do the like the sharpie on your holsters?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Let's go with yes, Tom, you know maybe if you well,
I'm gonna you.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Have for the same firearm.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, that too, I got a couple.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
And then the other thing is it's it's well, I'm
not going to forget I just got this one, right,
So I waited six months to get a holster and
I never even tried it out yet.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Soon still sitting there, let me ask the question, do
you buy like, once you find a style or manufacturer
that you like, did you buy that for all the
guns going back?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Are going forward?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That would make way too much.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
No, I'll live with the past and then that anything
going forward. If I really like somebody else.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah did in the past, Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
He lives in the.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Just just making sure here. Oh yeah, so but no, really,
you end up with all these holsters for all these guns,
and you're going I mean I have actually picked up
a box of holsters with a gun and I'm going
to find one if this thing fits, and so after
a while, just like you're doing, Jim, it's a sharpie,
I'm going to write on the holster what gun it's
(17:04):
for and hope that you know the sharpie didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Wear off, right.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I use a black sharpie and a black holster in
the Buckeyeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, I have several silver gray sharpies.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'll tell you, just for black kaiaks. Yes, it works
really well. Actually yeah, no, it's and people are thinking, oh,
why would you ever do that. By the time you
get past about twelve holsters, you have no idea exactly,
You just have no I mean I just bought two
holsters for the new sig P three three sixty five
(17:38):
fuse because nobody had those when it first came out.
So now I have two of them. You know what
they look like every other holster I own.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
It.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Oh good, it's a black KAIDEKX holster.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah. That narrows it down.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You know, if you start doing like cheetah print.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Alligator skin, oh, you know, you just start mixing them
all up.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean, okay, fashion holsters.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, color coding DAZZLESO.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
He's a blue electrical tape on the holster, blue electrical
tape on the grip.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And you know what you do, go together.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Mix and match.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Tom, you just need to have a craft night in
your studio.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Clearly now, what I need is to put in a
Sarah cot station. Oh so I have the same Sarah
Cote on the gun and the hole.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yes, there you are each.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
One that way. When the gun goes in.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
The holsters, you wouldn't even know it's chameleoned except he
does them.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
All this army green or whatever it's called.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
That's right, just what you need.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
How many do you have, Tom, hundred?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
What holsters? Yeah? Oh? Probably, yeah, yeah, probably remember we
got some from literally fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm picturing a walk in closet with all those holsters
hanging on hangers.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I am the Emelda Marcos of holsters.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow, I haven't heard it for her in a while.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I have just a tote the bin of them.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Actually my guns when I put them in the safe,
lots of times depending on the type. Obviously not leather ones.
But I will keep some of them in the holster.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh yeah, there no reason not to. On yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh, I eliminate some of that issue and.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I've got like leather shoulder holsters for a forty four
magnum with a six inch barrel breakaway. Uh yeah, actually, oh.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
My gosh, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, you gonna do the whole Miami vice.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I was just gonna shout out to Don Johnson days.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, there you go. They were cool, there were and
I wore that when I was fishing in Alaska. I
was knocking around Alaska, and you do the forty four
mag under the shoulder, you know, show a holster deal
with the barrel pointed down and that way you could
wear it on the outside of your clothing.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, that just makes sense for Alaska.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, just had a that I think we mentioned it
last week, the young guy who got jumped by a
bear and shot it with his ten mometer but also
put off bullet himself doing that. Yeah, so you go, okay.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
And yeah, yeah, that's something you can you can prepare for,
but you really can't train for a bear attack.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That would be that would be an interesting range ready course.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Actually you can. Yeah, oh yeah, there's a gun site
has done handgun classes for bear protection and FTW Ranch
does the charging uh K buffalo targets that you.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Put on a kevlar bearsuit or something.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, we've done charging bear targets rely on a remote
control robot that's really fast.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Wow, and it.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Comes charging at you and you learn to not only shoot,
but to move and jump out of the way. Is
this thing's coming at you? And it will ramp up
your adrenaline like instantly?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Does that have sound effects too?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That you said the instructle behind you going.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And it's the drool that really sets it up.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I already have this figured out because I'm just gonna
put marshmallow fluff on Jim because I can outrun Jim.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You don't have to run the bear, just out run Jim.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Just get a can of cheese, whist spray or something,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Amongst my own.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I still like the idea just take the twenty two
into bear country. Just kneecap your buddy. Yep, yep, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Old joke. Good it is.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
It's one of the better ones, you know, it is?
All right? Well, look I've got to I got some
loading to do. I love the whole process of working
up loads for a new gun. That is so much fun.
And and oh quick update for people who would need
to go out in side in your rifle. You please
use the solid rest. I'm not crazy about let sledgs,
(21:51):
you know how I am, but I like sandbags there
and just take your time if it. Honestly, if it
takes you more than about six shots to sit in
your rifle, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You need some help and making sure the forearm is
on your shooting bag.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Is all the shooting bag, not the barrel things.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yes, yes, there actually.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Are some good videos on YouTube where of course, now
you can learn how to do anything, and it'd be
worthwhile to do a really good refresher on that of Okay,
because I mean I'm serious, people say, well, you know
it takes me two or three boxes of AMMO to
get set in and go okay, Well stop, we should
literally should be able to do that in about six.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Shots or two to do it your method, you can
do it.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
With two at least. Get if you're on target to
say it one hundred yards, line up on the bull's eye,
nice good press on the trigger wherever the bullet goes.
Then put the rifle back on the sand bags, and
without disturbing the sand bags, adjust the sights so they're
pointing at the bullet hole. Guess what you're sighted in yep,
(22:56):
because now the bullet and the sights are looking at
the same place.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Taught everybody. I've taught that to head and Todd moment.
I never thought it has either to Tom.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Told me, it's like you're going okay. The whole idea
is to get the rifle to shoot where the crosshairs are. Right.
How about if we just moved the crosshairs to where
the bullet hole is. Everybody goes, oh huh, that would work,
wouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And it do it?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Do it's right and going ahead, And I have been
doing this wrong for all my life.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Well, the ammo manufacturers won't tell you to do it
that way now by six boxes of this three thirty
eight or six.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And well, but I will tell you there is something
to buying the different grains or different manufacturers of ammunition.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And now this process starts all over again.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Or oh yeah, change anything, change brand of ammo, bullet weight, anything.
You got to go back and do it again because
it's unlike the l shoot to the same place.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
So I've been doing that wrong. I have two different
kinds of amoas shoot. I have two scopes mounted to
the rifle I just looked at the other scope, got.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That one dialed in for this brand, this one.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Dial you know, they make binoculars.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's what I have mounted to the top of my rifle.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Or you could just develop your two different types of flinch.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's what Town's going to do with this three.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That's right. Maybe I've been practicing my flinch already. I'm
getting ready for it.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Company.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You know, some people are very good shooting with the flinch,
with the with the right movement.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
They've got themselves trained up for that.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
They really have. You know the funny Jerry mitchellerk line
about you know, I said, you know, how did you
get to shoot so fast? He said, well, I had
a bad flinch, but I figured if I could shoot
before I flinched, I could maybe master them. It. Okay,
that's the funny line.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Whatever, we're repeating that one.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's right, you know, don't don't mind me. I just
steal everybody else's lying.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I hope your labor Day rocks.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Thank you, and goy lsu playing tonight playing USC out
in Las Vegas or Oh Tigers is a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Oh, so that's what you and Pat have in mind
for the evening day.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Pat, Hey, it's fifty one years we watched TV and.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Never tonight they're celebrating watching it together.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh very good.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, of course I say that I haven't been over there.
She may not be home, she may have gotten a
better offer.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Do you watch from your studio with your binoculars? Her TV?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
How's it going over there?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Honey, honey, watch your luggage back?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Why is my luggage back? I haven't even been in
the house. Oh oh boy, he goes, all right, take care, guys,
see you bye.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We'll catch you next time for the gun talk after show.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
So you've made it through three hours of the regular
show on terrestrial radio and you wanted a.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Little bit more.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So that's why you found the Gun Talk After Show
podcast where we saved all the best things that we
can't say on regular radio.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Now here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the Gun Talk
After Show.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
All right, welcome to the after Show. We have Jim Canci,
Michelle Cleland.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Hello folks, heh Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I hope you've shut off the phone so those pesky
callers won't bother me.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, geez pete. It's all they want to do is
talk about guns.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Talk about guns again. Tee means I'm again. Geez see,
I've got this twenty five even I want to do
something with it. Yeah, I can tell you what to
do with it. But we can't put that on.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
The air, Okay, but we can on the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh there you go. All right. Oh, there was one
story I forgot to mention. I got to get this
out there that you'll appreciate. This one Federal Appeals Court
in New Orleans ruled that illegal aliens do not have
the right to keep it their arms under the Second Amendment.
Wow okay, Oh because they're not American citizens.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is that common sense?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, but there has to be a ruling otherwise it
didn't get discussed.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Follow the law.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
This will irritate the Jesus out of some folks who
they will appeal it to say we no, no, because you
know now that we have invited them into our country,
they are a guests and they should have all our rights. Yeah,
also all our money. We'll put it up in high
rights hotels. How about that? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I can hear their slogan right now. If Trump voters
can have guns, so can our people.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
He went way. How about Venezuela and gangs taking over
the park accomplished? Sure?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sure, hope did you.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
See that video of that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I hope they clean the pool.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh my gosh, what a mess. You're like, Okay, you know,
why would you need to need or one an a
ar fifteen? Yeah, because there are four to six people
with guns outside your door.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Right okay, and they're just trying to make room for
more of their members. According to what I've read.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Uh, probably so time to clean them out. Uh, with
whatever that takes. I'm sorry, just I'm just gonna get
it out there. Just just do it, dron them, drone them.
I thought you meant we were just supposed to drone
on about that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I think that's kind of given.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh yeah, that's right. Well, yes, what else is do nothing?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I got to mention smart carry. We haven't talked about
that in a while.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I loved mine. I everyone used it in a couple
of years, but I loved it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
What a great concept. And then you know, thinking under
a bib overall that would be.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Perfect, right, and where it's located, it's not going to
get in the way of anything I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
It just begs for all these responses that I cannot give.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Move on, Moving on.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
On a more somber on a more somber topic. I
was in a really good mood until I heard Nikki's
interview and then just kind of just locked the wind
out of my sail.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
That was a horrible story. I mean, the stalker followed her,
stalked her. I mean when they arrested and they found
you extra guns, rope, I mean, all the stuff you
need for kidnapping, and everything else. It's like, I'm just
and this is a guy with some serious mental problems.
And when she asked the restaurant to have him remove
(03:42):
from the restaurant, uh, he just killed her husband, shot
him seven times for the forty five right there in
the middle of the restaurant. It's like, Okay, crazy shows
up a lot of different places. I remind myself of
that when I think, well, I'm just going to run
into our little town here, why would I need to
carry my gun? Think? Yeah, because crazy is everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Well, and of course the worst thing is she was
in a gun free zone, following the law as US
gun people typically do, and got caught.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Up in that exact same thing that happened to Susannah Hup,
I mean, went into Luby's cafeteria, left her gun out
there because they had a no gun signs gun free zone,
watched this guy drive into the place and kill her
parents right in front of her. I have pretty much
adopted the attitude that. And here's the thing. In most states,
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if you and you need to know the law, But
in most states, if you carry into a place that's
posted that's not off limits by law, they just put
up an open goost office or something. Right, Yeah, post
offices it's off limits by law. But restaurants they put
up signs that kind of a deal. All they can
do is ask you to leave, so you're okay. Remember one,
(04:56):
They're not going to find it unless I have to
pull it out and use it. Then I don't care.
And if they asked me to leave, I'll leave. Now.
If you they ask you to leave, you don't leave.
That's trespassed. I can call you on that. But it's
like I kind if I'm not paying a lot of
attention to those signs anymore for the very I mean,
Nikki is a prime example.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Right, Wait a minute, are you saying that murderers would
be willing to break the law.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Unbelievable shocking, I know.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
And if they're going to break the law, why should
I make myself vulnerable to them by obeying the law?
That makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
What Tom's a really good guy to still be with
us today, if you.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, it's a shame that he followed followed the law. Actually,
in this case, just followed the request of the equality owners.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The policy.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
We have a policy about that. Yeah, well you know what,
I have my own policy how's that. You know I'm
going to take care of myself and my family. Duh.
So Michelle, you like my idea of my new rifle.
I just got this.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, it gives you the best and least recoil.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Right without an yammel. It's got no recoil.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
That is just the quietest gun I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's being made, but no, I think it's great.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It gives you the option for bigger game and rider game.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, it's a it's a thumper. What do you guess,
thirty one thirty uh feet product? Yeah, out of one
hundred and sixty five gring bullet. Yeah, but with a
like a two hundred and ten grain to twenty five,
you're down to twenty six to twenty seven real fast, unusable.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
We'll just remind everybody that he did say it was
an ultra light.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
It is a six and a quarter pound rifle with
you got you start crying as soon as you pull
the sugar.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh what a dude. I never saw a guy with
three shoulder fats.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But yeah, okay, that's when they say they make your
first shot count town.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Because I'll be just curled up in the feet of
position after that.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I have a surgeon on calle.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Rolled down the mountain side. I'm not sure what happened,
but he shot around and.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
He tied around and then he checked himself into the yar. Okay, actually,
it's not bad that the design on this gun has
that straight stock where you almost can't get the bolt
out when you're removing it. So the comb is very high.
You get that straight recoil back. It really doesn't kick much.
You know, this is the fourth one of these I've
(07:35):
gotten on a tear of buying these.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
See their allack? Yeah, yeah, Jim and I.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Were talking about that phrase being on a tear and
not a terror t e a r being on a tear.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So I've been buying ultra light arms because you don't
find the left handed it's very often, I mean you
don't find ultra light arms for sale very often actually,
but the left handed was even less.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So you drive with your right arm because you're gonna
need it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Have a sling. But you know that textas into the
whole idea when you have your arm and a sling,
how do you have a holster inside of your sling?
Sling carry?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's like that smart carry.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
That smart scary aUI.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You have one of those in your med kit, sling.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, really exactly right. It's like I'm going to take
some ibuprofen now because I'm going to be shooting my
gun later, and.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's a prophylactic move.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Do they still make They used to make the shirts
that had like the extra padding up around the shoulders
and side.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Do they still sk Shooters used that? But what I
used is you know that past brand PSD. I have
like three of those and you just put it on
over your shirt and those things work great. Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They had some specialized for women, did they Yes? They did,
because women are different well hooked onto the.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Trap. Yeah, I'm hanging out of mind.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No way.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You couldn't get to me anyways.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, that's a story that would I don't know if
I want you to tell that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
We won't share it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Ah right, Okay, I just think a quick break. We'll
come back and wrap this thing up, because I know
you guys actually have lives to get to, unlike.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Some of the I mean the barbecue grill out there,
is that what you mean?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
All of that thing.
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Speaker 4 (10:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, that's a nice re entry.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I like to like that. That re entry you just made. That.
We're just going to use that one. By the way,
just a big shout out to my wife for putting
up with me for fifty one years as of today.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Wow, she is a strong woman.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
She is that and then some or she's just forgotten
who I am and it just works out. Well.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So it's okay, Well you built the studio, so how
much time do you spend up there versus.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I don't know. She's changed the lot.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
There you go, Well, want summer one to call her
Sally for some reason, it's right, no fording address, So.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, we've had a lot of adventures. We've moved all
of the country we've lived in, got a lot of states,
all of the A states except for Arkansas, Alabama, Alaska,
and Arizona. And I kind of forgo the whole Arkansas thing,
although Arkansas has got some beautiful parts of it really does.
So anyway, we did that, and actually, you know, my
(11:18):
wife is an example of somebody who can shoot and
has a gun, but that's just not her thing. Every
want to go out to the range and shoot. She'll
go out occasionally and shoot. And when she does, she
shoots very well. And she's had some good instruction and.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
She and he's helped her too.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Well, maybe that's right. She had good instruction and I helped,
and then the instruction helps to overcome.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
My and she gets remedial.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I said, that's very nice. Now try it this way.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's working well for you. I see you're hitting all exes.
But what about this.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Exactly? Hey, if you notice that there are just like
new guns coming out like crazy, are there?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I hadn't noticed.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You hadn't noticed, right, Yeah? And I know gun sales
are down generally, and course, I mean the gun company
is trying to pump that up with some new models.
Which makes sense.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
That's twofold, though, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
It's kind of twofold because the gun rush are twenty
and twenty one, and then now the economy in the tank.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, yeah, exactly, it's combined so much so that I
mean a lot of gun stores are reporting people are
coming back in and selling guns just because it's just
hard to make a living and pay for groceries and
everything else, and they've got you know, there's money and
guns and you can always sell them. So people are
selling guns at the same time that a lot of
(12:41):
other people are buying guns. It's just it's a weird
situation we're.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
In right now, right and politically, with the with the
political year, with the election year being this year, it
wouldn't typically.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Be that way.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Good point, Yeah, a good point.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
People would normally be purchasing and holding on to them
in fear of that.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Dot because normally, traditionally they've had the money. This economy
is really in the d I mean, look at grocery
prices and stuff. Before you even look at stuff like ammal.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh yeah, I can afford AMMO.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know, with the right ammal, you can afford you
can get the food. You can go out back and
get the food.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Well, yeah, she can afford AMML because she goes and
takes it from her husband. I remember Rob Latham said
he went on like one of his three four week trips.
He goes on doing competition. All he gets back, he says,
where'd all my Ammo go? And his wife Kip? He said, Rob,
I was practicing. She shot up like twelve thousand rounds
(13:38):
of nine.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
She must have she must have had all of her
gales over.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's a good afternoon, man, some serious shooting going on there.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I miss those days of all the miscellaneous twenty two's
that would just go on the coffee.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Can you know, Oh gosh, what you wouldn't do to
have it.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But at the same time, I wouldn't want those days
back because that was precious time that my children got
to enjoy.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
But you know.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
You never thought about the analytics under your seat, Tom,
I've got some of the coffee, coffee holder.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You know you don't, Jim, I cleaned out your car.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I know that I could never drive into Mexico with
my car. Yeah, I would have to buy a brand
new car or rent something.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To go down. Don't go north either.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Well, yeah, you know you're right. I'm just hearing from
some folks who are running into issues with their guns
going into Canada.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, yep, absolutely, so it's a real problem.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
So it's like okay, and people need to understand if
they don't cross the border very often, customs, both US
and Canada. Uh, customs have almost unlimited ability to search
and do whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
They want to do, anything they want to do.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
So keep your mouth shut, be polite, and just suck
it up and put up with it because smart enough
just means they're going to tear your car apart.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
And they don't have to put it back together. No, no,
I just I just sweat a lot in twitch. It
seems to work real well, that's just normal for you.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You don't even look at them like nont whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Just Canada.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
For actually most countries, there's no problem leaving the country
you're in.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
They don't care what you have.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's you're over there. Coming back to the US could
be a real issue too. Absolutely, So it's just like, yes,
put up with it here it is. Or if you
want to go to Alaska, just fly all the way
there and don't.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Go through Canada, right, you get there faster too.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh oh, we're talking about holsters for a second time,
because during the break we were talking about this. Oh yeah, yeah,
you mentioned you've got all these holsters now and you
don't know what gun they're for. The manufacturers don't put
anything on the holster to market for what gun is for.
So do you do the like the sharpie on your holsters?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Let's go with yes, Tom, you know maybe if you well,
I'm gonna you.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Have for the same firearm.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, that too, I got a couple.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
And then the other thing is it's it's well, I'm
not going to forget I just got this one, right,
So I waited six months to get a holster and
I never even tried it out yet.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Soon still sitting there, let me ask the question, do
you buy like, once you find a style or manufacturer
that you like, did you buy that for all the
guns going back?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Are going forward?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That would make way too much.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
No, I'll live with the past and then that anything
going forward. If I really like somebody else.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah did in the past, Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
He lives in the.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Just just making sure here. Oh yeah, so but no, really,
you end up with all these holsters for all these guns,
and you're going I mean I have actually picked up
a box of holsters with a gun and I'm going
to find one if this thing fits, and so after
a while, just like you're doing, Jim, it's a sharpie,
I'm going to write on the holster what gun it's
(17:04):
for and hope that you know the sharpie didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Wear off, right.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I use a black sharpie and a black holster in
the Buckeyeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, I have several silver gray sharpies.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I'll tell you, just for black kaiaks. Yes, it works
really well. Actually yeah, no, it's and people are thinking, oh,
why would you ever do that. By the time you
get past about twelve holsters, you have no idea exactly,
You just have no I mean I just bought two
holsters for the new sig P three three sixty five
(17:38):
fuse because nobody had those when it first came out.
So now I have two of them. You know what
they look like every other holster I own.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
It.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Oh good, it's a black KAIDEKX holster.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah. That narrows it down.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You know, if you start doing like cheetah print.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Alligator skin, oh, you know, you just start mixing them
all up.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean, okay, fashion holsters.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, color coding DAZZLESO.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
He's a blue electrical tape on the holster, blue electrical
tape on the grip.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And you know what you do, go together.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Mix and match.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Tom, you just need to have a craft night in
your studio.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Clearly now, what I need is to put in a
Sarah cot station. Oh so I have the same Sarah
Cote on the gun and the hole.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yes, there you are each.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
One that way. When the gun goes in.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
The holsters, you wouldn't even know it's chameleoned except he
does them.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
All this army green or whatever it's called.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
That's right, just what you need.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
How many do you have, Tom, hundred?
Speaker 4 (18:42):
What holsters? Yeah? Oh? Probably, yeah, yeah, probably remember we
got some from literally fifty years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm picturing a walk in closet with all those holsters
hanging on hangers.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I am the Emelda Marcos of holsters.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow, I haven't heard it for her in a while.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I have just a tote the bin of them.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Actually my guns when I put them in the safe,
lots of times depending on the type. Obviously not leather ones.
But I will keep some of them in the holster.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh yeah, there no reason not to. On yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh, I eliminate some of that issue and.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I've got like leather shoulder holsters for a forty four
magnum with a six inch barrel breakaway. Uh yeah, actually, oh.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
My gosh, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, you gonna do the whole Miami vice.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I was just gonna shout out to Don Johnson days.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, there you go. They were cool, there were and
I wore that when I was fishing in Alaska. I
was knocking around Alaska, and you do the forty four
mag under the shoulder, you know, show a holster deal
with the barrel pointed down and that way you could
wear it on the outside of your clothing.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, that just makes sense for Alaska.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, just had a that I think we mentioned it
last week, the young guy who got jumped by a
bear and shot it with his ten mometer but also
put off bullet himself doing that. Yeah, so you go, okay.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
And yeah, yeah, that's something you can you can prepare for,
but you really can't train for a bear attack.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
That would be that would be an interesting range ready course.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Actually you can. Yeah, oh yeah, there's a gun site
has done handgun classes for bear protection and FTW Ranch
does the charging uh K buffalo targets that you.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Put on a kevlar bearsuit or something.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, we've done charging bear targets rely on a remote
control robot that's really fast.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Wow, and it.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Comes charging at you and you learn to not only shoot,
but to move and jump out of the way. Is
this thing's coming at you? And it will ramp up
your adrenaline like instantly?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Does that have sound effects too?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That you said the instructle behind you going.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And it's the drool that really sets it up.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I already have this figured out because I'm just gonna
put marshmallow fluff on Jim because I can outrun Jim.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
You don't have to run the bear, just out run Jim.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Just get a can of cheese, whist spray or something,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Amongst my own.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I still like the idea just take the twenty two
into bear country. Just kneecap your buddy. Yep, yep, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Old joke. Good it is.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
It's one of the better ones, you know, it is?
All right? Well, look I've got to I got some
loading to do. I love the whole process of working
up loads for a new gun. That is so much fun.
And and oh quick update for people who would need
to go out in side in your rifle. You please
use the solid rest. I'm not crazy about let sledgs,
(21:51):
you know how I am, but I like sandbags there
and just take your time if it. Honestly, if it
takes you more than about six shots to sit in
your rifle, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You need some help and making sure the forearm is
on your shooting bag.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Is all the shooting bag, not the barrel things.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yes, yes, there actually.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Are some good videos on YouTube where of course, now
you can learn how to do anything, and it'd be
worthwhile to do a really good refresher on that of Okay,
because I mean I'm serious, people say, well, you know
it takes me two or three boxes of AMMO to
get set in and go okay, Well stop, we should
literally should be able to do that in about six.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Shots or two to do it your method, you can
do it.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
With two at least. Get if you're on target to
say it one hundred yards, line up on the bull's eye,
nice good press on the trigger wherever the bullet goes.
Then put the rifle back on the sand bags, and
without disturbing the sand bags, adjust the sights so they're
pointing at the bullet hole. Guess what you're sighted in yep,
(22:56):
because now the bullet and the sights are looking at
the same place.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Taught everybody. I've taught that to head and Todd moment.
I never thought it has either to Tom.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Told me, it's like you're going okay. The whole idea
is to get the rifle to shoot where the crosshairs are. Right.
How about if we just moved the crosshairs to where
the bullet hole is. Everybody goes, oh huh, that would work,
wouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And it do it?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Do it's right and going ahead, And I have been
doing this wrong for all my life.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Well, the ammo manufacturers won't tell you to do it
that way now by six boxes of this three thirty
eight or six.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And well, but I will tell you there is something
to buying the different grains or different manufacturers of ammunition.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And now this process starts all over again.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Or oh yeah, change anything, change brand of ammo, bullet weight, anything.
You got to go back and do it again because
it's unlike the l shoot to the same place.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
So I've been doing that wrong. I have two different
kinds of amoas shoot. I have two scopes mounted to
the rifle I just looked at the other scope, got.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That one dialed in for this brand, this one.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Dial you know, they make binoculars.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's what I have mounted to the top of my rifle.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Or you could just develop your two different types of flinch.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's what Town's going to do with this three.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That's right. Maybe I've been practicing my flinch already. I'm
getting ready for it.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Company.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You know, some people are very good shooting with the flinch,
with the with the right movement.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
They've got themselves trained up for that.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
They really have. You know the funny Jerry mitchellerk line
about you know, I said, you know, how did you
get to shoot so fast? He said, well, I had
a bad flinch, but I figured if I could shoot
before I flinched, I could maybe master them. It. Okay,
that's the funny line.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Whatever, we're repeating that one.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's right, you know, don't don't mind me. I just
steal everybody else's lying.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I hope your labor Day rocks.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Thank you, and goy lsu playing tonight playing USC out
in Las Vegas or Oh Tigers is a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Oh, so that's what you and Pat have in mind
for the evening day.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Pat, Hey, it's fifty one years we watched TV and.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Never tonight they're celebrating watching it together.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Oh very good.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, of course I say that I haven't been over there.
She may not be home, she may have gotten a
better offer.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Do you watch from your studio with your binoculars? Her TV?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
How's it going over there?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Honey, honey, watch your luggage back?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Why is my luggage back? I haven't even been in
the house. Oh oh boy, he goes, all right, take care, guys,
see you bye.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We'll catch you next time for the gun talk after show.
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