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-- What kind of weight training or exercise benefits shooting?
-- Between Black Friday sales and BOGO offers, there's a rush to buy suppressors.
-- Getting your barrel threaded for a suppressor.
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-- Getting your barrel threaded for a suppressor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the gun Talk
After Show.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's that time again, time for buy one after show,
get one free. And people are saying, why would I
even want one?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
They do not holdly the people that have heard it before.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You're all right, that's all Jim McKenzie, Hell are my friends?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Anybody?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And you know it's officially now when we can say
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Right, we got rid of Turkey Day and now we're
into this.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yes, oh I thought you make this trump one.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Or just because we're in the like sub twenty temperatures
and not quite as bad, but we are in cold weather,
yeah you are.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And I escaped for a little while down here in
the southern climbs yeah, down down here where they still
have leaves on the trees and everything.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well some of our trees did they abruptly lost them?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The pooh they're gone. That's right, it's the foo. Here
comes the storm they're on.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh, Lord, had a good show today. Let's get Tom
in here.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Go.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I think he wants to comment on that out of Fargo,
North Dakota. Hey, Tom, how goes it?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Real?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Good?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Sir? Yes, and just said I didn't tell the lady
that I was going to say this. It's we have
below zero this morning anyway. Yeah, So anyway, so I
wanted to say thank you very much for having your
son on. That was a great team. Listen to the
whole show. That was so great to hear. Okay, but
my question was, so, I've lost a lot of upper
(02:12):
body strength. I want to get back to doing that.
But I also want to train with firearms. I've got
handguns and rifles. What should I concentrate on to be
calm when I when I get into and I've got handguns.
I want to do with concealed terry, But what should
I concentrate on forearms arms? What part should I concentrate
(02:35):
on to get good steady you know shooting.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, yes, everything from the feet up, particular the core.
You've got to have that. Where are you Where do
you think you are lacking right now?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I'd say I'd say upper body strength. I've lost a
lot of weight, but I also lost a lot of muscle,
and I'm just not as I cannot lift nearly as
much as I can, and I'm concerned about holding the
gun steady enough. That would be my concern. Is they
(03:17):
have to have the arm. The arm I guess risked
our forearms to be able to hold the gun steady
enough as I shoot. That would be my concern.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Okay, As I always say, we worry about the wrong things.
You're worrying about the wrong thing. It's not a case
of holding the gun steady. That literally is not the issue.
It's not. If you know how to press the trigger,
that will cover ninety five percent of the issues with
(03:51):
aiming and keeping the gun on target. Honestly, it really will.
But let's go back to weight training, or let me
back up. Why did you lose weight? Are you purposely
losing weight or is there something else going on here?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Oh? Yeah, actually you lose smell and taste for ten
months why eat? And so I did that and I've
lost in two years. I lost one hundred pounds.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
To start out, you know, not the diet we recommend. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, so, uh so that was an enormous part there.
I went from two eighty six to one and well
that so I lost muscle, lost that, but I also
lost us so other muscle, sure, I lost other and
(04:45):
so that would be but I do a lot of walking,
a lot of stair climbing, I do. I do that,
so that that was why I lost that and not
going back up again.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Are you are?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
You are?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Your legs and d shape? Is your body basically in
decent shape other than let you say, your upper body
in your arms?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah yeah, I would say so. And because you know,
four or five flight flights of stairs at a time,
no problem, that that's easy.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Okay, Well that's that's good. That that helps. All right,
here's where I'm going to go with this. And Michelle,
you weigh in because you got you know, professionals or
at least seriously competitive shooters in your family, and I
know that they work out. But I'm just thinking at
this point, probably a diet that's rich in protein and
maybe get with a personal trainer to at least get
(05:37):
started and say this is what I want to work on. Uh,
you know, work on the arm strength certainly, because look
arm strength and believe it or not, hand strength if
you're are you talking about handguns time primarily?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yes? Yeah, handguns. Yeah, hand strength required.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, hand strength. Being able to grip a gun tightly,
I mean really tightly, it will aid greatly in your shooting.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Michelle thoughts, So we always recommended getting a racketball, and
you could use a tennis ball, but a racketball is
a little bit better because of.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
The material that it's made of.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right, But just being able to sit there and this
seems silly, but mindlessly sitting in your chair squeezing that
racket ball builds them a lot of hand strength. But
I'm going to go with what you said to Tom
because i think core, specifically cardio is extremely important with
anything that we do. Being able to control that heart
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rate and the pulse is a huge benefit to any shooter.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
The other thing Tom, you get out of that is
talking to a surgeon recently. He said strength is balance.
Your balance comes from strength, and so if you're standing
with your on your t feet and your shooting pistol
balance is part of that. And so you've already got
the lower body strength. The core is going to be
(07:04):
a big deal, and then certainly having stronger arms. But
here's the thing. You're generally not holding a pistol up
for that long. It's not like you're holding it out
for a minute or two minutes. It's usually up for
ten seconds. And pistols are not that heavy. So we're
going to go right back to where Michelle was talking
(07:26):
about having that racquetball having strength in your hands, and
people don't understand how important that is for shooting a pistol.
The stronger your hands are, the better you are able
to hold the gun steady, hold it through recoil, and
hold it while you are pressing the trigger and not
(07:46):
disturbing the sites.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Sure, because I remember going as learning as a kid,
just slowly easing, letting your breath ont as you shoot.
Don't hold it in, just let it out that way.
But and I've got those grip things they will do.
The individual fingers are all together.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Oh yeah, those are actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, it's gonna say they make the with the like
a little spring, like a vice.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Yeah, and I've been using those, so okay, I'm on
the right track.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
And Tom, in addition to uh, proteins like you know, meat, liver,
that kind of stuff, beef, check out way protein. Yeah,
because I've got good experience with that a few years
back when I was sick, and it makes a world
of difference.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And specifically like an isolate protein, right one, that is
a really good source protein because.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
It builds, It builds a muscle mass.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
So you're gonna you're gonna get stronger and bigger, but
you're not going to put on a ton of weight.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I can't eat waiting, but there's alternatives.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
But I do eat a really good grass fed beef
that we've got and and there that's you know. I'm
in North Dakota. We got good beef. But anyway, anyway,
I appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Okay, Tom, Hey, Tom, before you go, I got one
more thing to add to this. Okay, Yes, sir, find
a good pistol instructor that will do more than all
of this stuff combined.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And I'm talking about somebody who could really expend some
time with will teach you how to shoot a pistol. Well,
I don't care how much you shot in the past,
if you haven't worked with a good trainer. I mean,
just like you would with physical training, a good trainer
for shooting the pistol. You will learn techniques in an
hour that could take you a lifetime to figure out
(09:38):
if you ever figured them out on your own, and
they will make a huge difference.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Wow, that's a great point. So a good trainer on
pistol and a good body trainer as well.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Absolutely I would go both of those.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, invest in yourself absolutely well.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Tom.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I appreciate the call. That's that's you know, and that
has good stuff less things we haven't talked about before,
but we can't. I don't know if we take it
for granted or we just don't think about it, or
we think, yeah, I'm not going to be any weaight
trained tick with that florishness.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
That's hard.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It is hard. I mean, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's time, right, and and to get anything beneficial out
of it, you need to spend you know, a good
well at least thirty minutes, but a good forty five
minutes probably following a workout plan.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, it's a commitment, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But I'm like you. I do believe, you know, in
the in the strength of core. Obviously, it does several
things for us. If any of us carry a pistol,
which most of us do, it just keeps everything.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I guess you're supposed to be, yes.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Exactly, less back problems.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's what I was going for.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, you know you have, you already have the posture
that is needed. And that's the one thing that enough
of us don't work with, is our posture.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Well, and it's Jim slopping over the keyboard.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
If you haven't carried a pistol on your belt before,
you don't understand that it really is weight. It really
can affect your back. Yeah, it's one of the reasons
frankly I've gone. I mean not to mention that never
concealed them, but smaller, lighter pistols are simply easier. I
love the nineteen eleven, but a full size All Steal
nineteen eleven, about three days in to carry that, my
(11:28):
back starts hurting.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, and I do want to say along with that,
so you're when you're doing weight training, obviously you're training
everything to be in a constant constriction, right, I mean,
everything's contracted and people make fun of this, but doing
yoga and doing some stretching and the long ye things
is equally as important, so you know, you can balance
those things out and kind of use joga at the
(11:51):
end of the night to kind of like calm the mind,
meditate and.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Get ready for bed. It's to me, it's a great practice.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And yoga is also a good including exercise. Send me
the yeah, I will tell you. And guys, if you're laughing,
just go to one yoga class somewhere and watch those
women kick your butt doing stuff that you can't even
begin to think about doing.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yep, and bloodies is kind of the you know, kind
of a cross there. But yes, I.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Would do that if I can't even pronounce it. So I'm
not going to do that.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Thanks for the Thanks for the tip to Michelle. I'm
gonna do some keiggles on break here.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Oh that we are in fact going to take a break.
We may not come back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And here we thought we were going to do a bogo.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
No.
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Speaker 4 (13:34):
I guess we're back, and no one else is at
this point.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Jim scared of no, kidd.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So I do want to ask you in discussing a
little bit further. Doing walking and you don't necessarily have
to run, but being an avid walker, I think is
crucial to what we do.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But what's your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Have you ever tried with like a weighted vest or no?
People that train with weighted vests.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It's funny you asked that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
No, no, So what's funny answer?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Training? Training, training, until it gets to weight to vest.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And that's where we I have not. I mean I
actually do. I was just watching Mike Rowe. He's doing rucking.
He's carrying sixty five pounds while he's walking, and I mean,
I don't use a weighted vest, but I do carry
a backpack. I guess that's kind of a similar kind
(14:35):
of a thing.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, it's so weight on the core.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
A weighted vest is just a way to I guess
kind of get it all around the body perhaps, and
you can go. I mean, you can buy vests and
only put in part of the weight and kind of
work yourself up into it, because sure, nobody is going
to start walking with a fifteen pounds weighted vest on them,
not unless they've been doing something for a while, right.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And you know, of course I'm right now. I can't
really walk up now hill because it's covered with snow. Yeah,
but I do like to go up and down.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I've got a mountain behind my house, which is also handy,
and I go up and down that I at first,
I have to really first of the season, I have
to stop a lot. And after a while you're not
stopping nearly as often, and the recovery time to catch
your breath yep, drops rapidly. It's amazing how quickly improved.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, which is why it's so important to get cardio
built into the.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yeah, we got time to stop, have a cigarette, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, well, knock knocked down a couple of drinks you Yeah,
as we used to say, a highball. Oh yeah, Now
there's an old term that's like parents and grandparents have
a high ball. It's Frank Sinata rat pack kind of
a deal.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
It wasn't a highball kind of like covered several drinks, right,
It wasn't just like seven to seven.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It was like sery.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I thought of it as being one of those short
glass bourbon or Scotch kind of a drinks kind of
a deal. But who knows, I don't know. I mean
I was a kid, uh at the time when my
mom was smoking a lot, and so we had ash
trays everywhere. So my vision of that back in the
fifties and early sixties was ash trays everywhere with adults
(16:15):
having high balls and drinks. It was like right out of.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
A movie, glass glass and ice clicking everywhere.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yes, yes, exactly right, you know, yeah, let's go out
on the range kids. Yeah. Yeah, bless her heart. My
mom was a two pack of days smoker. You know.
I ended up doing her end at the end, which
is no surreal surprise, but that was me growing up.
In the car. Okay, you'll love this. In the car,
no seat belt standing in the back seat, wind is
(16:46):
up and it is completely fogged in from cigarette smoke. Yeah,
there's no problem there.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Right with a metal dash O course, steh yeah, yes, absolutely,
so you know, so far, so good.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You were smoker?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Were No? Never well other than in the car with
my mom, you know, when I was six.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And venison, but that's a different kind of smoking.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, we smoke gnison. No kidding, Well that's good. Yeah. No,
I never did that, never got into that at all,
And I just think my lucky stars just you know,
the best way to quit is to never start, true,
So I got away with that one. Yeah. If they
don't have any breath, of course, then again, when you
live in mountain, you're a mile high and the hills
(17:29):
are steep and the years are long, so there you
are many at least we have fun. So uh suppressors? O, boy,
he's back on silence of central, isn't he? It is?
Do you have any cans right now? You don't have
(17:54):
any suppressors?
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I do not. I've used them.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You should go ahead and live. Really pulled the trigger
on this because they have made it so easy once
you go through the process, show just go. I can't
believe I waited this long.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But do you have to pull two tax stamps? Probably?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Probably so, as long as you can afford it, and
you've got the guns to put them on.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well you just got just got a free suppressor, right, yeah,
he one.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
That's like a it's like an almost five hundred dollars
suppressor for free. So just paid for both tax stamps.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Right, that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Yeah, Well I did the math, and if I don't
pay the show for the month of December, I can
how much do I make.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I'm supposed to get paid?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
What Tom, you.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Could just surprise me with a twenty two suppressor? I
mean you wanted it really for your thirty cows, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Jim, I got it.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I got a thought for you as a saleswoman. I
love it.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yes, sir, dam buy two get too free.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh see there's our bogo for pulling that all in eight.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Hundred bucks and text hims Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Gosh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
A great Skipping up the driveway today.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Where's Jim. He's digging ditches to cover the mortgage.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
But boy, they that a great suppression he's got.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Don't afford to shoot anything through it, but it looks great.
What was the one you recommended? You said there was
a perfect one from.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
The Well, yeah it was. Let me go back and
find the because I want to give you the right
one just second here to silence or pops up because
I'm there so often. Yeah, I'm back, Yes, this is
hello Tom. You want to buy another? Yes, as a
matter of fact, they do. Uh let's see, let me
(19:57):
got an auto it was there is the speed K
speed K. Yeah, it's a little short can that you
put on an AR and they're just so cool. Now
they've got one titanium. I don't think that qualifies for
the Bogo, but the one that's not titanium does, and
(20:18):
that is really slick on an.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
AR if you're like T one and the K.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And I just got to make sure that that one
qualifies for the Bogo deal. Now, but you had mentioned
a thirty caliber and this is not a thirty cal.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
This is a well the reason I want to go
thirty so I could use on the AR with not
optium suppression but substantial still and when I get a
three h eight.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yes, that was my thought.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
And that's not a bad way to go. You're going
to give up three or four dB by going to
that instead of the AR. You know, two T three can,
but it's not a huge amount. And yeah, you got
some versatility, and then you can always add a regular
you know two two three can at some point because honestly,
once you start down this road, you're going to go, oh,
(21:06):
that is just the thing. I am not. I don't
want to shoot without these anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Just outfit a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Oh damn it. And now they have financing, damn unscrewed now.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
And you won't believe how easy they make the process. Seriously,
it is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is it a Cradova financing or they have financing internally?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Just as easy pay plan. Let's click while our listeners listen.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
That's Lenny's loan Shark Service takes care of.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
This for you.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
James j A. M E s. I'm feeling this okay, And.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yes, right, we'll get that over the air.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Just getting my credit card number out too, just friends here.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, the Bogo deal, it's like when they when I
first saw that and then they said, you know, they
want to run an add on the show. I'm and
really you get away.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Of suppressor and it's on the front of the American Riflemen.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
It's on the front.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Cover, all right, I mean it's everywhere, which is also
gets this right back to the while supplies lest ye ah, well.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
This is really horrible creat a frenzy these guys. It's
not it's not only financing. It's basically it's just recurring
payment set up through your credit card.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
So you don't even have to go through credit checks
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Oh okay, so they'll just build your credit card a
piece of time.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You won't even know that you bought.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You don't even know it. And you know what happens
once is paid off. You're still on the automatic pay system.
They just send you more suppressire suppressed.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
The suppressor of the month. If we do it like this, I.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Feel like that if we do it right, you know
you can you can buy those for you and me,
and then come next year it'll all be, you know,
ready to go again and we can just on the
when knew it.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
That's right. Just do they have a button that says
diddo right? Yeah, I'd like to do that again. I
take somewhere of that, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So we know a lot of people like you, say, Tom,
that kind of double them up for different calibers. While
it might not be the optimal for one, it works well,
but it definitely works for the bigger caliber, the lotder
of them.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
And that's what I did. I got my first one.
It's a thirty col and so I can use that
for a and this was a rifle. I got the
Banish thirty. And then you can use it on a
two seventy or seven millimeter or any of those. It
works just fine on all of those. And then you know,
once you say, okay, I really like this is this
is so much more pleasant, And then once you stick
(23:40):
it on an ar, it's like, oh my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Don't think you have to be concerned with Is the
threading size correct?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yes? And also Ryan just schooled me today. I was
not aware of something. He said, Well, you got to
be careful because if you're using a regular two two
three suppressor and then you stick it on an ar pistol,
like with a seven inch barrel seven eight inch barrel,
the blast from that is more than the suppressors are
(24:12):
designed for, which I you know, and I'm just relaying
what he told me. And somebody's going to say that's
not right, but I think it probably is. And so
it's something to be aware of if you're going to
stick it on an SBR or an ar pistol. You
may want to check with the manufacturer make sure that
it can handle that.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Oh very good.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Oh and while we're at it, don't put a twenty
two rim fire just because the same diameter.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
They don't want to put it an a yes.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yes, yes, yes, A can that's made for a twenty
rim fire is not going to handle a two two three.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
There's two once. Yes.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
So the other thing is if you have a rifle
that is not threaded to take a suppressor, the Science
or Essential people will thread your barrel for you.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Really.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh yeah, they're set up for a hundred bucks. You
send it to them. It takes about a week or two,
and then they run it back to you and it's threaded,
ready to go.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Right FORO a hundred bucks store pretty close. I can
get a ten to twenty two barrel that's already threaded.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah. But if you've got like a thirty odd six
or something like.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
That, right right, right? No, I was I'm just thinking
about my oh yeah, ten twenty two.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Oh yeah, for ten twenty two or for a lot
of pistols, you could buy a replacement barrel that's threaded.
And so you say, well, I don't have a threaded barrel. Yeah, well,
you know, for sixty nine dollars, you get a thread
barrel and ready to go.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Huh, well, I know what I'll be doing. So since
we shut down the after.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Show here, I happen to know somebody that does threading
locally too, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But i'd have to drive four minutes from here. That's
ridiculous and.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Have a conversation while it's being done. Yeah, it's like,
oh that would work. Okay, that's sure, Michell. I forget
you have the in house gunsmithing service.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yes, yes, this is not bad. Oh no, works for
a lot of times.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Thread and go.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't think so because of the machining. But you
know you can come to us. That's the mobile party.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I'm thinking, Jamie, start your own door dash. I like it.
You know, you go pick up a guy's guns and
take them over there and bring them back to him.
You know, there's something going on.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Here, Threaded at US, Threading r US something. We're going
to find some kind of domain there.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I know you will already.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
He don't go, daddy, he's grabbing it right now.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Oh, and while we're along, the discussion here of the suppressors,
and it's becoming Christmas time.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
A very good item to purchase.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
For people who own such things would be some nice
ultrasonic cleaners. I see now that they have fire stuff, right, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
See that they have like.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Parts dryers now even I mean, they're really expanding this line.
But if you don't want to do the ultrasonic, you know,
they make some really good cleaning products. But it's so
important to get these things clean and keep them clean.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Okay, So there you go, drop them in, turn it
on and oh yeah, and if you're going to do
ultrasonic cleaners, use the approved liquid. Do not throw some
other solvent in there, because it is a real serious
fire hazard if you use the wrong thing in there.
Only use the correct stuff in there. But never no,
(27:32):
don't no, no, no, no, We're not burning down anybody's
houses there. No, no, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You know where I was going. That's here.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I didn't, but I knew it would be bad, So.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
My reputation precedes me there.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It is. It's like there's this whole category of Jim thinks, all.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Right, well I'm going to silence or center. I'm going
to stay on the site when we do.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And I am serious, I've gone, I've done. I guess
I've got my God not just counted.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I want jewelry.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I think I'm up to six. Wow. Well it just
it's so damned easy, right right, and they financed.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
So, oh jesuz, thanks for changing my life. Silence are central.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well, what will happen is when you and I know
you like to introduce people shooting. Oh yeah, it is
such a different experience. Yep, it's crazy and it's also
fun when they think it's going to be you know,
movie quiet. Well it's not movie quiet, right, it's better.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And a lot of the training side of this, a
lot of the reaction is from the actual sound of
the firearm going off, So you know, if you can
eliminate that from the scenario when you're training somebody, Yeah,
the mental aspect that was like who okay, well that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
And with RS it's I'm not sure what the combination
is or how much is warne versus he that you
got the sound and then you have the actual concussive
blast that hits you, and that's part of it, and
that goes away for the most part. So it's really
a benefit. So yeah, I mean, I am all over it.
I think it's a it's a really good idea. And
(29:21):
as we learn from our guest today, who is really
interesting by the way, you know, the doctor who's a
SWAT officer, it is a health issue. Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So would I would love for him to be a
little prominent with the enforcements of this or to get
it moving along.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Now you do all the hump Yeah, hum, I just jumped.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I'm used to this in my life.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yes, if you're married to shooters, that got in your
life and that's we laugh about it. But it is
a real thing. And the other thing is there now
learning that hearing loss actually accelerates dementia.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, because the atrophy of the brain from not hearing
things not.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, just awful lot of health benefits of protecting your hearing. Yes,
you guys, go do some Black Friday shopping. It's still
out there and there's some crazy deals.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I'm just mind right onto gym so he won't even
know it.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
There you go, just take the car. Look when he
does the whole thing and he's actually buying it online
and they've got the quantity. You say, look over there,
Jim and you just coume too.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
There we go, squirrel.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
He'll never know that's right.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So like it all right.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
The other thing is you get him really quickly now yeah,
I mean it was up to a year. Now you're
looking at two three weeks and you'll have mind.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
You might be able to get it by Christmas.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Might be able to get it by Christmas. If you
order today, delay order today.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
And if you act no now yeah, it's like against
you NI take.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Off like one month of payment.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Although I do still want to whip out my way.
Be careful, say that by papil careful fisherman Ron pull
Peel Ron made a fortune.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
He also was half owner in the company Ronco. He
is the ron of Ronco.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Who was co? It was easy to say the LLC.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
There you go. You guys have a great week and
I will be uh back here in the rains Ready
studio studio excellence.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Awesome, We said, hello, sure, ma'am. All right, we'll catch
you next time for the gun Talk after show.
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
So you've made it through three hours of the regular
show on terrestrial radio and you wanted.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
A little bit more.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So that's why you found the gun Talk After Show
podcast where we saved all the fust things that we
can't say on regular radio.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now here's Tom, Michelle and Jim for the gun Talk
After Show.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's that time again, time for buy one after show,
get one free. And people are saying, why would I
even want one?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
They do not holdly the people that have heard it before.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You're all right, that's all Jim McKenzie, Hell are my friends?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Anybody?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
And you know it's officially now when we can say
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Right, we got rid of Turkey Day and now we're
into this.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Yes, oh I thought you make this trump one.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Or just because we're in the like sub twenty temperatures
and not quite as bad, but we are in cold weather,
yeah you are.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And I escaped for a little while down here in
the southern climbs yeah, down down here where they still
have leaves on the trees and everything.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well some of our trees did they abruptly lost them?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
The pooh they're gone. That's right, it's the foo. Here
comes the storm they're on.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh, Lord, had a good show today. Let's get Tom
in here.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Go.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I think he wants to comment on that out of Fargo,
North Dakota. Hey, Tom, how goes it?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Real?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Good?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Sir? Yes, and just said I didn't tell the lady
that I was going to say this. It's we have
below zero this morning anyway. Yeah, So anyway, so I
wanted to say thank you very much for having your
son on. That was a great team. Listen to the
whole show. That was so great to hear. Okay, but
my question was, so, I've lost a lot of upper
(02:12):
body strength. I want to get back to doing that.
But I also want to train with firearms. I've got
handguns and rifles. What should I concentrate on to be
calm when I when I get into and I've got handguns.
I want to do with concealed terry, But what should
I concentrate on forearms arms? What part should I concentrate
(02:35):
on to get good steady you know shooting.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yes, yes, everything from the feet up, particular the core.
You've got to have that. Where are you Where do
you think you are lacking right now?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
I'd say I'd say upper body strength. I've lost a
lot of weight, but I also lost a lot of muscle,
and I'm just not as I cannot lift nearly as
much as I can, and I'm concerned about holding the
gun steady enough. That would be my concern. Is they
(03:17):
have to have the arm. The arm I guess risked
our forearms to be able to hold the gun steady
enough as I shoot. That would be my concern.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Okay, As I always say, we worry about the wrong things.
You're worrying about the wrong thing. It's not a case
of holding the gun steady. That literally is not the issue.
It's not. If you know how to press the trigger,
that will cover ninety five percent of the issues with
(03:51):
aiming and keeping the gun on target. Honestly, it really will.
But let's go back to weight training, or let me
back up. Why did you lose weight? Are you purposely
losing weight or is there something else going on here?
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Oh? Yeah, actually you lose smell and taste for ten
months why eat? And so I did that and I've
lost in two years. I lost one hundred pounds.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
To start out, you know, not the diet we recommend. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah, so, uh so that was an enormous part there.
I went from two eighty six to one and well
that so I lost muscle, lost that, but I also
lost us so other muscle, sure, I lost other and
(04:45):
so that would be but I do a lot of walking,
a lot of stair climbing, I do. I do that,
so that that was why I lost that and not
going back up again.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Are you are?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
You are?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Your legs and d shape? Is your body basically in
decent shape other than let you say, your upper body
in your arms?
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah yeah, I would say so. And because you know,
four or five flight flights of stairs at a time,
no problem, that that's easy.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Okay, Well that's that's good. That that helps. All right,
here's where I'm going to go with this. And Michelle,
you weigh in because you got you know, professionals or
at least seriously competitive shooters in your family, and I
know that they work out. But I'm just thinking at
this point, probably a diet that's rich in protein and
maybe get with a personal trainer to at least get
(05:37):
started and say this is what I want to work on. Uh,
you know, work on the arm strength certainly, because look
arm strength and believe it or not, hand strength if
you're are you talking about handguns time primarily?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yes? Yeah, handguns. Yeah, hand strength required.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, hand strength. Being able to grip a gun tightly,
I mean really tightly, it will aid greatly in your shooting.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Michelle thoughts, So we always recommended getting a racketball, and
you could use a tennis ball, but a racketball is
a little bit better because of.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
The material that it's made of.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right, But just being able to sit there and this
seems silly, but mindlessly sitting in your chair squeezing that
racket ball builds them a lot of hand strength. But
I'm going to go with what you said to Tom
because i think core, specifically cardio is extremely important with
anything that we do. Being able to control that heart
(06:35):
rate and the pulse is a huge benefit to any shooter.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
The other thing Tom, you get out of that is
talking to a surgeon recently. He said strength is balance.
Your balance comes from strength, and so if you're standing
with your on your t feet and your shooting pistol
balance is part of that. And so you've already got
the lower body strength. The core is going to be
(07:04):
a big deal, and then certainly having stronger arms. But
here's the thing. You're generally not holding a pistol up
for that long. It's not like you're holding it out
for a minute or two minutes. It's usually up for
ten seconds. And pistols are not that heavy. So we're
going to go right back to where Michelle was talking
(07:26):
about having that racquetball having strength in your hands, and
people don't understand how important that is for shooting a pistol.
The stronger your hands are, the better you are able
to hold the gun steady, hold it through recoil, and
hold it while you are pressing the trigger and not
(07:46):
disturbing the sites.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Sure, because I remember going as learning as a kid,
just slowly easing, letting your breath ont as you shoot.
Don't hold it in, just let it out that way.
But and I've got those grip things they will do.
The individual fingers are all together.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Oh yeah, those are actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, it's gonna say they make the with the like
a little spring, like a vice.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Yeah, and I've been using those, so okay, I'm on
the right track.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
And Tom, in addition to uh, proteins like you know, meat, liver,
that kind of stuff, beef, check out way protein. Yeah,
because I've got good experience with that a few years
back when I was sick, and it makes a world
of difference.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And specifically like an isolate protein, right one, that is
a really good source protein because.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
It builds, It builds a muscle mass.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
So you're gonna you're gonna get stronger and bigger, but
you're not going to put on a ton of weight.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I can't eat waiting, but there's alternatives.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
But I do eat a really good grass fed beef
that we've got and and there that's you know. I'm
in North Dakota. We got good beef. But anyway, anyway,
I appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Okay, Tom, Hey, Tom, before you go, I got one
more thing to add to this. Okay, Yes, sir, find
a good pistol instructor that will do more than all
of this stuff combined.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
And I'm talking about somebody who could really expend some
time with will teach you how to shoot a pistol. Well,
I don't care how much you shot in the past,
if you haven't worked with a good trainer. I mean,
just like you would with physical training, a good trainer
for shooting the pistol. You will learn techniques in an
hour that could take you a lifetime to figure out
(09:38):
if you ever figured them out on your own, and
they will make a huge difference.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Wow, that's a great point. So a good trainer on
pistol and a good body trainer as well.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Absolutely I would go both of those.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, invest in yourself absolutely well.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Thank you so much, Thank you, Tom.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I appreciate the call. That's that's you know, and that
has good stuff less things we haven't talked about before,
but we can't. I don't know if we take it
for granted or we just don't think about it, or
we think, yeah, I'm not going to be any weaight
trained tick with that florishness.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
That's hard.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It is hard. I mean, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's time, right, and and to get anything beneficial out
of it, you need to spend you know, a good
well at least thirty minutes, but a good forty five
minutes probably following a workout plan.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, it's a commitment, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
But I'm like you. I do believe, you know, in
the in the strength of core. Obviously, it does several
things for us. If any of us carry a pistol,
which most of us do, it just keeps everything.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I guess you're supposed to be, yes.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Exactly, less back problems.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's what I was going for.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, you know you have, you already have the posture
that is needed. And that's the one thing that enough
of us don't work with, is our posture.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Well, and it's Jim slopping over the keyboard.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, of course, of course.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
If you haven't carried a pistol on your belt before,
you don't understand that it really is weight. It really
can affect your back. Yeah, it's one of the reasons
frankly I've gone. I mean not to mention that never
concealed them, but smaller, lighter pistols are simply easier. I
love the nineteen eleven, but a full size All Steal
nineteen eleven, about three days in to carry that, my
(11:28):
back starts hurting.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, and I do want to say along with that,
so you're when you're doing weight training, obviously you're training
everything to be in a constant constriction, right, I mean,
everything's contracted and people make fun of this, but doing
yoga and doing some stretching and the long ye things
is equally as important, so you know, you can balance
those things out and kind of use joga at the
(11:51):
end of the night to kind of like calm the mind,
meditate and.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Get ready for bed. It's to me, it's a great practice.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And yoga is also a good including exercise. Send me
the yeah, I will tell you. And guys, if you're laughing,
just go to one yoga class somewhere and watch those
women kick your butt doing stuff that you can't even
begin to think about doing.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yep, and bloodies is kind of the you know, kind
of a cross there. But yes, I.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Would do that if I can't even pronounce it. So I'm
not going to do that.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
Thanks for the Thanks for the tip to Michelle. I'm
gonna do some keiggles on break here.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Oh that we are in fact going to take a break.
We may not come back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And here we thought we were going to do a bogo.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
No.
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Speaker 4 (13:34):
I guess we're back, and no one else is at
this point.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Jim scared of no, kidd.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
So I do want to ask you in discussing a
little bit further. Doing walking and you don't necessarily have
to run, but being an avid walker, I think is
crucial to what we do.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
But what's your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Have you ever tried with like a weighted vest or no?
People that train with weighted vests.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It's funny you asked that.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
No, no, So what's funny answer?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Training? Training, training, until it gets to weight to vest.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
And that's where we I have not. I mean I
actually do. I was just watching Mike Rowe. He's doing rucking.
He's carrying sixty five pounds while he's walking, and I mean,
I don't use a weighted vest, but I do carry
a backpack. I guess that's kind of a similar kind
(14:35):
of a thing.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, it's so weight on the core.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
A weighted vest is just a way to I guess
kind of get it all around the body perhaps, and
you can go. I mean, you can buy vests and
only put in part of the weight and kind of
work yourself up into it, because sure, nobody is going
to start walking with a fifteen pounds weighted vest on them,
not unless they've been doing something for a while, right.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And you know, of course I'm right now. I can't
really walk up now hill because it's covered with snow. Yeah,
but I do like to go up and down.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I've got a mountain behind my house, which is also handy,
and I go up and down that I at first,
I have to really first of the season, I have
to stop a lot. And after a while you're not
stopping nearly as often, and the recovery time to catch
your breath yep, drops rapidly. It's amazing how quickly improved.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, which is why it's so important to get cardio
built into the.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yeah, we got time to stop, have a cigarette, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, well, knock knocked down a couple of drinks you Yeah,
as we used to say, a highball. Oh yeah, Now
there's an old term that's like parents and grandparents have
a high ball. It's Frank Sinata rat pack kind of
a deal.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
It wasn't a highball kind of like covered several drinks, right,
It wasn't just like seven to seven.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
It was like sery.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I thought of it as being one of those short
glass bourbon or Scotch kind of a drinks kind of
a deal. But who knows, I don't know. I mean
I was a kid, uh at the time when my
mom was smoking a lot, and so we had ash
trays everywhere. So my vision of that back in the
fifties and early sixties was ash trays everywhere with adults
(16:15):
having high balls and drinks. It was like right out of.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
A movie, glass glass and ice clicking everywhere.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yes, yes, exactly right, you know, yeah, let's go out
on the range kids. Yeah. Yeah, bless her heart. My
mom was a two pack of days smoker. You know.
I ended up doing her end at the end, which
is no surreal surprise, but that was me growing up.
In the car. Okay, you'll love this. In the car,
no seat belt standing in the back seat, wind is
(16:46):
up and it is completely fogged in from cigarette smoke. Yeah,
there's no problem there.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Right with a metal dash O course, steh yeah, yes, absolutely,
so you know, so far, so good.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You were smoker?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Were No? Never well other than in the car with
my mom, you know, when I was six.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
And venison, but that's a different kind of smoking.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, we smoke gnison. No kidding, Well that's good. Yeah. No,
I never did that, never got into that at all,
And I just think my lucky stars just you know,
the best way to quit is to never start, true,
So I got away with that one. Yeah. If they
don't have any breath, of course, then again, when you
live in mountain, you're a mile high and the hills
(17:29):
are steep and the years are long, so there you
are many at least we have fun. So uh suppressors? O, boy,
he's back on silence of central, isn't he? It is?
Do you have any cans right now? You don't have
(17:54):
any suppressors?
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I do not. I've used them.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
You should go ahead and live. Really pulled the trigger
on this because they have made it so easy once
you go through the process, show just go. I can't
believe I waited this long.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But do you have to pull two tax stamps? Probably?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Probably so, as long as you can afford it, and
you've got the guns to put them on.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well you just got just got a free suppressor, right, yeah,
he one.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
That's like a it's like an almost five hundred dollars
suppressor for free. So just paid for both tax stamps.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Right, that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Yeah, Well I did the math, and if I don't
pay the show for the month of December, I can
how much do I make.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I'm supposed to get paid?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
What Tom, you.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Could just surprise me with a twenty two suppressor? I
mean you wanted it really for your thirty cows, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Jim, I got it.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I got a thought for you as a saleswoman. I
love it.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yes, sir, dam buy two get too free.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Oh see there's our bogo for pulling that all in eight.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
Hundred bucks and text hims Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Gosh, I love it.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
A great Skipping up the driveway today.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Where's Jim. He's digging ditches to cover the mortgage.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
But boy, they that a great suppression he's got.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Don't afford to shoot anything through it, but it looks great.
What was the one you recommended? You said there was
a perfect one from.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
The Well, yeah it was. Let me go back and
find the because I want to give you the right
one just second here to silence or pops up because
I'm there so often. Yeah, I'm back, Yes, this is
hello Tom. You want to buy another? Yes, as a
matter of fact, they do. Uh let's see, let me
(19:57):
got an auto it was there is the speed K
speed K. Yeah, it's a little short can that you
put on an AR and they're just so cool. Now
they've got one titanium. I don't think that qualifies for
the Bogo, but the one that's not titanium does, and
(20:18):
that is really slick on an.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
AR if you're like T one and the K.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And I just got to make sure that that one
qualifies for the Bogo deal. Now, but you had mentioned
a thirty caliber and this is not a thirty cal.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
This is a well the reason I want to go
thirty so I could use on the AR with not
optium suppression but substantial still and when I get a
three h eight.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yes, that was my thought.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
And that's not a bad way to go. You're going
to give up three or four dB by going to
that instead of the AR. You know, two T three can,
but it's not a huge amount. And yeah, you got
some versatility, and then you can always add a regular
you know two two three can at some point because honestly,
once you start down this road, you're going to go, oh,
(21:06):
that is just the thing. I am not. I don't
want to shoot without these anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Just outfit a lot of things.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Oh damn it. And now they have financing, damn unscrewed now.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
And you won't believe how easy they make the process. Seriously,
it is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Is it a Cradova financing or they have financing internally?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Just as easy pay plan. Let's click while our listeners listen.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
That's Lenny's loan Shark Service takes care of.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
This for you.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
James j A. M E s. I'm feeling this okay, And.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yes, right, we'll get that over the air.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Just getting my credit card number out too, just friends here.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, the Bogo deal, it's like when they when I
first saw that and then they said, you know, they
want to run an add on the show. I'm and
really you get away.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Of suppressor and it's on the front of the American Riflemen.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
It's on the front.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Cover, all right, I mean it's everywhere, which is also
gets this right back to the while supplies lest ye ah, well.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
This is really horrible creat a frenzy these guys. It's
not it's not only financing. It's basically it's just recurring
payment set up through your credit card.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
So you don't even have to go through credit checks
and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Oh okay, so they'll just build your credit card a
piece of time.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You won't even know that you bought.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
You don't even know it. And you know what happens
once is paid off. You're still on the automatic pay system.
They just send you more suppressire suppressed.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
The suppressor of the month. If we do it like this, I.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Feel like that if we do it right, you know
you can you can buy those for you and me,
and then come next year it'll all be, you know,
ready to go again and we can just on the
when knew it.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
That's right. Just do they have a button that says
diddo right? Yeah, I'd like to do that again. I
take somewhere of that, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So we know a lot of people like you, say, Tom,
that kind of double them up for different calibers. While
it might not be the optimal for one, it works well,
but it definitely works for the bigger caliber, the lotder
of them.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
And that's what I did. I got my first one.
It's a thirty col and so I can use that
for a and this was a rifle. I got the
Banish thirty. And then you can use it on a
two seventy or seven millimeter or any of those. It
works just fine on all of those. And then you know,
once you say, okay, I really like this is this
is so much more pleasant, And then once you stick
(23:40):
it on an ar, it's like, oh my goodness, gracious.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Don't think you have to be concerned with Is the
threading size correct?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yes? And also Ryan just schooled me today. I was
not aware of something. He said, Well, you got to
be careful because if you're using a regular two two
three suppressor and then you stick it on an ar pistol,
like with a seven inch barrel seven eight inch barrel,
the blast from that is more than the suppressors are
(24:12):
designed for, which I you know, and I'm just relaying
what he told me. And somebody's going to say that's
not right, but I think it probably is. And so
it's something to be aware of if you're going to
stick it on an SBR or an ar pistol. You
may want to check with the manufacturer make sure that
it can handle that.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Oh very good.
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Oh and while we're at it, don't put a twenty
two rim fire just because the same diameter.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
They don't want to put it an a yes.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yes, yes, yes, A can that's made for a twenty
rim fire is not going to handle a two two three.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
There's two once. Yes.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
So the other thing is if you have a rifle
that is not threaded to take a suppressor, the Science
or Essential people will thread your barrel for you.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Really.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh yeah, they're set up for a hundred bucks. You
send it to them. It takes about a week or two,
and then they run it back to you and it's threaded,
ready to go.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Right FORO a hundred bucks store pretty close. I can
get a ten to twenty two barrel that's already threaded.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah. But if you've got like a thirty odd six
or something like.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
That, right right, right? No, I was I'm just thinking
about my oh yeah, ten twenty two.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Oh yeah, for ten twenty two or for a lot
of pistols, you could buy a replacement barrel that's threaded.
And so you say, well, I don't have a threaded barrel. Yeah, well,
you know, for sixty nine dollars, you get a thread
barrel and ready to go.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
Huh, well, I know what I'll be doing. So since
we shut down the after.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Show here, I happen to know somebody that does threading
locally too, so you know, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But i'd have to drive four minutes from here. That's
ridiculous and.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Have a conversation while it's being done. Yeah, it's like,
oh that would work. Okay, that's sure, Michell. I forget
you have the in house gunsmithing service.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yes, yes, this is not bad. Oh no, works for
a lot of times.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Thread and go.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't think so because of the machining. But you
know you can come to us. That's the mobile party.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I'm thinking, Jamie, start your own door dash. I like it.
You know, you go pick up a guy's guns and
take them over there and bring them back to him.
You know, there's something going on.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Here, Threaded at US, Threading r US something. We're going
to find some kind of domain there.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I know you will already.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
He don't go, daddy, he's grabbing it right now.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah right.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Oh, and while we're along, the discussion here of the suppressors,
and it's becoming Christmas time.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
A very good item to purchase.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
For people who own such things would be some nice
ultrasonic cleaners. I see now that they have fire stuff, right, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
See that they have like.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Parts dryers now even I mean, they're really expanding this line.
But if you don't want to do the ultrasonic, you know,
they make some really good cleaning products. But it's so
important to get these things clean and keep them clean.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Okay, So there you go, drop them in, turn it
on and oh yeah, and if you're going to do
ultrasonic cleaners, use the approved liquid. Do not throw some
other solvent in there, because it is a real serious
fire hazard if you use the wrong thing in there.
Only use the correct stuff in there. But never no,
(27:32):
don't no, no, no, no, We're not burning down anybody's
houses there. No, no, I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
You know where I was going. That's here.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I didn't, but I knew it would be bad, So.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
My reputation precedes me there.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It is. It's like there's this whole category of Jim thinks, all.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Right, well I'm going to silence or center. I'm going
to stay on the site when we do.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
And I am serious, I've gone, I've done. I guess
I've got my God not just counted.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I want jewelry.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I think I'm up to six. Wow. Well it just
it's so damned easy, right right, and they financed.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
So, oh jesuz, thanks for changing my life. Silence are central.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Well, what will happen is when you and I know
you like to introduce people shooting. Oh yeah, it is
such a different experience. Yep, it's crazy and it's also
fun when they think it's going to be you know,
movie quiet. Well it's not movie quiet, right, it's better.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And a lot of the training side of this, a
lot of the reaction is from the actual sound of
the firearm going off, So you know, if you can
eliminate that from the scenario when you're training somebody, Yeah,
the mental aspect that was like who okay, well that's nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
And with RS it's I'm not sure what the combination
is or how much is warne versus he that you
got the sound and then you have the actual concussive
blast that hits you, and that's part of it, and
that goes away for the most part. So it's really
a benefit. So yeah, I mean, I am all over it.
I think it's a it's a really good idea. And
(29:21):
as we learn from our guest today, who is really
interesting by the way, you know, the doctor who's a
SWAT officer, it is a health issue. Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
So would I would love for him to be a
little prominent with the enforcements of this or to get
it moving along.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Now you do all the hump Yeah, hum, I just jumped.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I'm used to this in my life.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yes, if you're married to shooters, that got in your
life and that's we laugh about it. But it is
a real thing. And the other thing is there now
learning that hearing loss actually accelerates dementia.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, because the atrophy of the brain from not hearing
things not.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Yeah, just awful lot of health benefits of protecting your hearing. Yes,
you guys, go do some Black Friday shopping. It's still
out there and there's some crazy deals.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I'm just mind right onto gym so he won't even
know it.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
There you go, just take the car. Look when he
does the whole thing and he's actually buying it online
and they've got the quantity. You say, look over there,
Jim and you just coume too.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
There we go, squirrel.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
He'll never know that's right.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So like it all right.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
The other thing is you get him really quickly now yeah,
I mean it was up to a year. Now you're
looking at two three weeks and you'll have mind.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
You might be able to get it by Christmas.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Might be able to get it by Christmas. If you
order today, delay order today.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
And if you act no now yeah, it's like against
you NI take.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Off like one month of payment.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Although I do still want to whip out my way.
Be careful, say that by papil careful fisherman Ron pull
Peel Ron made a fortune.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
He also was half owner in the company Ronco. He
is the ron of Ronco.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Who was co? It was easy to say the LLC.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
There you go. You guys have a great week and
I will be uh back here in the rains Ready
studio studio excellence.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Awesome, We said, hello, sure, ma'am. All right, we'll catch
you next time for the gun Talk after show.
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