April 5, 2025 • 37 mins
On this Gun Talk Hunt, join host KJ in an in-depth conversation with American Airgunner star Rossi Morreale as they dive deep into the world of air gun hunting and competitive shooting. From backyard plinking to harvesting elk with .50 caliber air guns, this episode explores the power, versatility, and growing popularity of modern airguns. Learn how the Airgunner Challenge evolved into one of the top shooting competitions in the outdoor industry, and why airguns are gaining serious traction among hunters, sport shooters, and families alike. Whether you’re new to airguns or a seasoned pro, Rossi breaks down gear selection, hunting ethics, legislative growth, and what it means to be a passionate outdoorsman in today’s world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Hey, this is all about air guns and
the air Gunner Challenge with Rossi Morielli. Hey, I'm kJ,
dedicated lifelong hunter.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
If you've got an interest in all things hunting, you're
in the right spot. Whether chasing quail across the plains
of Oklahoma or in pursuit of belt in the back
country of British Columbia, you'll always find me on the hunt.
All right, welcome in all you gun talk hunters. I'm
your host, kJ, and Rossi Morielli is with me today
(00:32):
with American air gunner Like this guy has probably forgotten
more about air guns than I'll ever know, and he
has a show he's got kills behind his belt. But
first we're gonna do a poem from AI about Rossi Morielli.
(00:52):
Arkansas made, where razorbacks run and legends are laid. Now
he calls Los Angeles home, but you can't take the
woods out of his bones. From chasing bass at first
lights glow to stalking game when the cold winds blow
on camera or off, it's always the same. A hunter's
heart and an outdoorsman's flame. City streets and Hollywood lights,
(01:15):
but Rossi still lives for opening nights of Seasons of
Stories of Shots that Ring True and Arkansas Soul with
a California view back for you, dude, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hell, I don't know if I could have said any
better myself.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right, I'll tell you. I'm telling you right now. AI
knows too much.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I was like, I think, I like, I just
had a moment with myself.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm like, that is me, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Right, it's like you're just is it doesn't miss hey,
like it hasn't missed, like and I like it's it's
it's uncanny. But so that was AI's version. Now, ROSSI like,
give us your version of who ROSSI Moriellie is? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Man, I would say, first, uh, you know, first things First,
I'm a child with God H and so and that's
good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So I'll start there like that's a that's enough for me.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And then on top of that, I'm a I'm a
I'm a father to little girls ten and.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Eight h.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
All the stuff like yeah, I mean, of all the
stuff I've done in my life, man, being a dad is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Uh is the best thing ever.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm coaching flag football, I'm coaching soccer, I'm coaching basketball.
My my coaching an all Star team right now with
fifth graders, and we won the Super Bowl last year,
my team with the Razorbacks, and so.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like I'm just I'm I'm I feel like I'm getting
more out of that than I do anything else.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And and then being a husband, I pride myself on
just being a good husband and loving my wife the
best way I can uh and actually the way that she.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Wants to be loved, which is new for me, not
just hey this.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Is I love like this, deal with it, right, So
so some growth in there and then outside that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Man, I'm an adventurer.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I have jumped out of airplanes, flown fighter jets, flown
tank ridden in tanks, driven tanks, ramped.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
El Toro Loco. I've been in you know, NASCAR NASCAR trucks.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I've done backflips on motorcycles and chats with trying this house.
I have a hundred fish I have, Like I mean,
there's not enough out there for me that I've already
done and to keep doing. And the most important thing
I want to do is I love to entertain people.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't care if it's if I.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Wake up and there's a you know, stranger mouths.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I'm like Hey, what's going on? Maylance? Do you want
to sit down and talk?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What are you gonna play a game? What do you
wanna do? Yeah, I just loved entertaining.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I do a lot of live events, live speaking,
corporate events. I do a lot of auctions for gallas,
like for charity kind of stuff because I just I
love It's kind of a way for me to give
back and do an hour of.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Standing of comedy while I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So, Man, if you're within a near shot, I'm gonna
talk to you, I'm gonna get to know you. I'm
gonna try to entertain you, uh and just create fun
in this life.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Man, we don't have we ain't got that long.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So trying to create as much much good times along
the way as I can.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And I'm feeling I feel like you're aging faster than
normal because you have two daughters, Like I feel that
would age me quick.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
This this used to be black, like not too long ago.
The hair, so I haven't touched, right, the hair is
still still good. No no real no real good A
little bit right. But I'm I'm I think I'm maintained.
I think I was, you know when you just well
before I had.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Daughters, I was like, I'm gonna have daughters, Like I
think I was born for daughters. Like I just think
I'm the kind of guy that was born for daughters
in like a good way.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm all about raising strong women, but I can. But also,
strong women don't intimidate me, right. I know a lot
of guys are like, O, I want a strong one.
I'm like, oh, you don't.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You can't handle those with your wife is because she's
got too much of a personality and too many opinions
and you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So I think I think I'm genuinely geared for that. Yeah,
And I just love empowered.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Like I love coaching right now because I like empowering
these young girls to young women as as fifth graders,
like I've.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Coached little boys. When you coach little boys, you're like, Branda, listen,
shut up, do what I tell you, right and and
and they're like that girl, Yeah, I can't do those girls.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And so I will tell you man, especially like now
like this on fourth grade, fifth grade.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I'm like, how can I coach you better?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like help me speak to you in a way that
helps you understand and makes you want to be better?
And they're like huh. And it's funny because then I
actually come home and say that same thing to my wife.
You wouldn't believe how much it works. Like when you
when you respect and empower your wife would.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Say, honey, I want to hear, I want to know
talk to me. But it's really a good response. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna try to do that more.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm learning more about my wife through a fifth grade
All Star team than I think I have in fifteen
years of marriage.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So pretty funny. Yeah, man, So do you get them?
So talk a little bit about American air Gunner. And
we were just talking about this right before we hopped
on like that, I mean, you've you're you're going to
be filming season six coming up and potentially getting me
(06:31):
out there to film. Where do you guys film it?
And what what's that process like for you guys, and
kind of give them a little background on American air Gunner.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So we've got two shows. There's two shows.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
American air Gunner is the overall brand, right, and then
there what was American air Gunner When I got started
in twenty thirteen, it was kind of a magazine show, right,
So every a bloc beat, you know, A or D
bloc were something different. It was a five minute hunt
new gun coming out John Gunnery thing. We would go
to some you know, like a Texas gun show or
(07:02):
something like that, and then we'd go to like a
some sort of an event, right, So it was just
kind of the world of air guns, which you can
imagine the amount of people that cared about that, which
was seven seven people cared about that. So that was
in twenty thirteen, and that was the show. It was
a show by ume Rex Who's Who's a gun company?
An air gun manufacturer. That was their It was their show.
(07:25):
I was just a host, yeah, and so we only
talked about a couple of types of guns, and it
was the types that they make and they sell more
of the Walmart style like kind of like lower end guns.
At the time, I did not I was a TV host.
I was a Chunkyard Wars on you know TLC. I
was doing Dating in the Dark on ABC. I had
a at the time, I had a show called Cane
(07:45):
You Duet on CMT. It was like for country duos
like American Idom, but for country doos. I was I
was an Arkansas boy came out to California on vacation,
stumbled into TV and just started hosting TV show. I
mean like you could tell I got a lot of
energy and that all that stuff comes naturally. So I
buddy of mine from from back from Arkansas was was like, man,
(08:06):
you gotta we're looking for a host for this show.
Like would you mentioned I'm like sure. So I start shooting.
I'm like, what's an air gun I had? I had
a Daisy red Rider at a crossman, the pump Master
seven twenty, and then I got a twenty two and
a four teen shotgun and you know.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Pretty much everyone story right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And I get out there and they they they want
to see because because the guys they think I'm some
California Hollywood or whatever. So I go back to see
my family for Christmas or Thanksgiving or something.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They're like, well, let's meet up and you know, come
up and do some shooting.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
They put like eight bottles on the you know room,
and they give me a fifty caliber air gun.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I'm like what is this. They're like, fifty caliber
a gun.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
That's a gun.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm like, what do you mean? Air gun?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like right, my head's like like everybody like airsoft, you know,
like that's what everybody says, chilting.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
About a two hundred fifty grand slug.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Probably I think that gun's one of the smaller, what's
probably like seven hundred per second, you know, doing three
hundred fifty four hundred foot pounds. And you know I
got bang, bang bang. It's accurate. I hit all the bottles.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, you know, I'm fifteen yards away.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I mean, wasn't that They just wouln't see if I
didn't shoot, And I'm like, man, So I started hosting
American air Gunner.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So American air Gunner was that show.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I took over in twenty nineteen, and in twenty eighteen
or that that season on twenty eighteen, we shot. We
we turned it into a hunting show like we went
on just because that was when like fifty cow like
big time fifty cal or three fifty seventh thees arrow guns.
We shot an arrow through a production van just to
see if so we could find.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Something to stop it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's shooting these arrows out of the gun at five
six hundred feet per second with a broadhead on it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean it sucker is hum.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I shot it through a one inch cutting board, like
at one hundred yards, Like we get to the well,
I'm like, did I hit it?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know we got but Noah, like that I had it.
The hole like this big, the things that thick. I mean,
I was like, what is what is this? Right? So
we going? We still?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We started doing hunting shows and I mean that that
that beautiful beast you've got.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right behind you. I've got one in my.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Dad's lake cabin that I shot with a fifty caber
umerex hammer.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Really uh yeah. He came around a corner.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I dropped down on our knee, shot it, got hit
in the face, scoped me and that thing took one
step and dropped. That's a seven hundred and fifty pounds
yeah beast, right, I mean so then it was like
what what we went?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I mean it was red stack.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I shot a hog out of a helicopter, one shot
and flipped it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Kudo. We went to Africa.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean I shot the first bull elk with an
air gun in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
It was like, what can you not hunt with an
air how?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't think, I really don't think there's much that
you can't do with an air gun and not you know,
if the government knew the kind of power those were packing,
they probably wouldn't be so keen on them because they
don't seem to want to touch those.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But they're still considered beat guns.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean that's what they think. If you say
an air gun, they're going, okay, like your little red rider.
All these are a little bit different than that. But
my my hunting experience with air guns was we went
off to Puerto Rico and we we laid waste iguanash.
My gosh, that is that is so much fun. If
(11:24):
you're out there and you're you're within earshot or you're
watching this man, that is a must hunt because.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well you can go down to Florida and do it now,
Yeah you can. It's legal in Florida with air guns.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
To take iguanas within the city limits. You got to
go through one of the licensed guys down there. But
we have done that many times because iguanas are crazy
and you get these twenty two thirty thirty cow thirty
three fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Seven's and then you know it's like, I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
He'll yeah, and they want you to shoot them, yeah,
like they're invasive.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's it's the air gun hunting side of things was
was crazy and so we so so American air Gunner,
the hunting show airs on the Sportsman Channel in twenty twenty.
During COVID I right before, I was like, I mean,
I want to do it. I used to love Top Shot.
I used to love top Shot and it just disappeared.
(12:17):
And so I was like, one day I'm gonna I'm
gonna do like.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
My version of Top Shot with airguns.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And we did it. We just did in five days.
We shot ten episodes. I got some airgun buddies that
I knew and we did it. And when COVID hit,
I had it packaged and edited.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I call him. I was like, guy, guys, I got
I got content ready to go. They took it on
and here we are.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Season five's Aaron right now, we're about shoot Season six
and so that's the air Gunner Challenge and that's on
the Outdoor Channel.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And so those are the two shows we have.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So there's We did twelve seasons of American air Gunner.
Our last season was in twenty twenty four. It me
and my dad and two female hunters went to Africa
to ten planes game animals with air guns, arrow guns
like you name it the animals.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I still can't. I'm always like, what if I shoot
the one thing and had the fining feeling?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But like I got a kudoo that was a killer
shot with a forty five caliber, took a zeb wrae,
we took two, will debase one with a sixty two
caliber air gun shooting a six hundred and fifty grand
slug at nine hundred feet per second.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Gee, it's like, can't foods.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I'm so in the realm of like both action rifles
and like and high power stuff like that doesn't compute
to my head, Like it doesn't compute. That goes like
whole second you're shooting how big of a slug and
it's traveling nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I mean for the people, isn't like as big as
your thumb?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, Like that's that's how big the top part of
your thumb, that's how big?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And again, what's an air gun? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So, so these air guns have some sort of a
air tube on the the guns look for the most
part normal. A lot of times you'll see it looks
like a little bit of an air tank, similar to paintball.
But I do not want to give in on the
idea like it is not a paintball gun. But what
we're doing is we're filling those guns up with forty
five hundred psi.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, you fill up a scuba tank with five thousand psi.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Okay, So you fill like an air gun or a
paintball gun with three hundred psi. Okay, So we're filling
these tanks up with forty five hundred psi. And then
you're just you're taking what looks like a regular bullet.
Just it's just a big chunk of lead. Uh, ninety
percent of might say probably more than especially for a
big game hunting or holowpoints, right, because everything's subsonic, right,
(14:32):
You're not right?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's what is an.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Eleven fifty eleven like thirty seven or something is the
spiece of So everything is subsnic uh, and you're and
you're shooting just just it's just propelled by air. No,
we don't have a backpack. No we don't look like Ghostbusters. No,
you don't have to pump put up like it's It
just looks like a gun. And within the confines of
gun is this air tank that's holding all this air,
(14:56):
high pressured air. And then you know, then it kind
of goes into like a little plinum. And then when
when it releases the same thing like with like with
like a trigger, when it's a it's a you know,
hits the bullet it it it hits a valve and
it just releases air like a right and it poses
and so that amount of air and for the bigger
gun it's probably like eleven hundred or you know, like
like PSI is released quick it and it fires that
(15:19):
that projectile out. So with a fifty cow, you know,
you're getting three shots, maybe four shots. With a twenty
two you're getting eighty shots. Right, the air is it
just takes less air to move that project right, right,
you got a let's you know whatever, You got a
twenty two grain pellet versus five hundred and fifty grain slug, right,
(15:40):
So less shots the bigger you go.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And then and then you know when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The air gunner challenge, because there's arrow guns, there's full auto.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, okay, i auto. They're sick fifty state legal full
auto air guns shooting pellets.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now, all these pellet guns and air guns are now
moving to slugs. Even in the one seven seven E
twenty two, we're still shooting these tiny twenty grain twenty
five gran thirty grand slugs.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So for hunting squirrels.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
If you've ever been turkey hunting with an air gun,
it's the best because if a group comes in, you
get your limit because they don't one falls over.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They just lower around like well, well that and they
just keep moving and it's it's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Let's let's we're gonna jump in here, We're gonna take
a quick break. But on the back end of this,
I do want to explore this, like how how do
you select, like when you're looking at air guns, Like
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We are talking with the out of American air Gunner
and the is it American air gun Challenge or air
gunn or Challenge.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Air Gunner Challenge. I mean I think it's unfortunately, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's been it's both now. So like sometimes if you're
if you're looking on.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You know, the the guide on the TV, it's like
American air Gunner Challenge on the show, where like.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, air Gunner Challenge, but overall it's probably American
air Gunner Challenge. It would be the proper all right name.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I mean we've got into a little bit of starting
like getting the background of like hunting with these air
guns and their capabilities of it, like, and then average
guy who is not really familiar with this that I mean,
let's be honest, Like in my neighborhood, I cannot shoot
a firearm. However, right, however, BB guns, air guns they're
(19:50):
less frowned upon, but they're they're packing just as much
heat as you want. Like, it depends on what you
go with. So how do you select? Like where how
do you ROSSI When someone comes up to you says, dude,
I don't know what to get, Like, how do you
direct them?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, first of all, it's it's it's what do
you what do you want? The biggest problem with.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Air guns you have to have an air source, right,
So you can't There's not a air compressor at home
depot that can provide enough air to fill your gun, right,
So you have to It's that specialty thing, right. You
either have to have a the right tank, like a
carbon fiber tank or.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Either you go a lot of guys go to the
local if there is a scuba shop or an air
yeah or an air tank.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like an air paintball shop.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You can go and get the tank filled up there, right,
because you need to put forty five hundred and five
thousand PSI into that tank, right.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So, so so that's kind of the one thing. Right.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You can't walk into a store, buy a gun, buy
some ammo, and go shoot. That's going to always be
the problem with air guns. But once you're set up,
I can shoot all day long for ten bucks.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I mean I could take I mean, how much is
a ten of pellets? Right?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So, so so that's the beauty, right, And the guns
are you know some of them. There's everything from an
entry level air gun that's that's an accurate like a
good inchry le a gun you can get around the
let's call it, you know, sub five hundred bucks. And
then there's the competition.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Air guns that are you know, in the twenty five
hundred dollars range.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
There's a big there's a big competition in Utah called
the Rocky Mountain Air Gun Challenge.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Utah air Guns puts it on unred.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
There's one hundred and thirty thousand dollars in price money
out there. But we're shooting at we're shooting one hundred
yards at the like at a pencil racer. Yeah, right,
and and you've got twenty five shots, only one shot
per and these guys are putting some of these guys
are like twenty of them.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They're hitting the ten in, which is the size of
an rnswer at one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, when again you're shooting, you're shooting a you know,
twenty five grain slug.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So so the slightest bit of win moves that thing.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You know, if you're not hunting, you don't need anything
three fifty seven or above, right, if you're going to
go hunting, like in Texas. Because the other thing too,
right now, is that what we're doing as a collective
is going to we have to go to the game
and Fish of every state and say we want to
open up argun hunting for larger than usually turkey, sometimes coyote, uh,
sometimes rabbit.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Is that is the largest?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, okay, that's not Wow, Like you hear that, you
hear my my, my neighbors, Masarati that you started, sorry,
Masarati just started. That's awesome. I heard, I thought I
heard something. I was like, was that my stomach? I
think it was No, it was a Masarati.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You want me to pause here and let.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
This man let him run it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So so, so that's the thing right now. Now, the
beauty of arragus too is everything. They're great entry level guns.
It's a great way to teach your kids, young kids,
female shooters news how to shoot because you can, you know,
and you're like this, it's like, I mean, there's there's no.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Recoil at all. So we are on the show.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
We're opening beer bottles with a pellet, we're lighting matches
with because you can dial it in because you don't
have to there's no return back to you were just
dialed in. Right, your eyes are open, you know, you
got both eyes open. You can see everything and there's
no movement from that gun. So you get to just
I mean, you can get so precise, which is what's
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great about them. I can do sniper style shooting at
fifty yards right where I don't have to go to
a range and go to a thousand yards with my ruber.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right, I can play with it.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
If you're a gun geek and you like to like
really dial something in, you can do it with every gun.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah. See, that's my problem is that if I have
to go if I want to go, like really test
my accuracy and test my distances. I've got to go
find a range that's an out fifteen hour and twenty
minutes away. It's out in the sticks. Whereas you, I
mean you really need fifty yards you need I mean,
you get away with one hundred yards, so you get
even more precise.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I guess, well, you get more fun if on a
windy day.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I mean, some of the best shooting is like you
just go out with your your argun on a windy
day and you're like, let me see what I can hit,
and you can and you can find it. And I mean,
I want a competition with a two hundred and fifty
yard shot with a forty five caliber with a twenty
four inch drop, and I hit a six inch kill
zone on a couty and I got disqualified because I
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was supposed to shoot the eight inch wolf to the
right and I hit the six inch and I was like,
I'll take a disqualification.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Think it, and yes, now you would like you hit
the more difficult target right. So I mean, it's it's
it's just it's it's fun. It's different.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But as far as like what air gun to go with,
it's what do you want to do. You want to
shoot your backyard, give you I give you a hundred
gun in the three hundred to seven hundred dollars range
that are quiet, that make zero noise, that you can sit.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
There and plink and shoot all day.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
All you need is any kind of stopper, right, because
you're still you're still subsonic. You're not a mess up
your neighbors. If one gets away from you, it hits
a tree, it's gonna fall down, right, It's not.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's not just.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Traveling through and through and through and through, right, it's
not going through anything. So that's the kind of stuff
that I think is greatful because you can go out
in your backyard with your kids.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You can shoot all day long, and when it's dinner time,
you're run.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Inside, right, and you're not. It's not a dollar fifty
every time you pull a trigger, right, it's it's it's
it's two cents. So so that's the biggest thing. Now,
if you want to go like Texas laws, at some
of these state laws, they have a minimum right, so
it's like you have to have at least four hundred
foot pounds or whatever. And so that's what they're doing
with these air guns. When we go to the game
and fishing kind of say like, hey, we want to
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get big game honey going on the state, then we
have to show them the gun show what they can do.
We draw up the laws for them, and we've kind
of made that where people aren't being idiots and trying
to take a deer with a you know, a pell gun, right,
You're using the right tool for the job. So most
of those so I would say, you know, big game
hunting three fifty seven minimum shooting slugs, but it's got
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to be a high pier. Three ety seven, forty five
and above is probably better because you got forty five, fifty,
sixty two and seventy two calendar. The center to caliber
is hilarious. It's a fifteen hundred grand slug. It's I mean,
it's a it's.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I mean, that's African big game.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I feel like like an elephant.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's like hitting something with a softball at.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That How much how much energy is that carrying down range?
I mean, that's gotta be tremendous amount of Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Mean I think I think that one.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I mean air Force they just came with a new
textan that's doing eleven hundred foot pounds.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Good gosh, that was just released a shot show.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So now you're like, my mind around this, So.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I think that's uh, but you know, but you know
the tricks of that kind of stuff, right.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You put super super super super super super.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Super heavy grain slug, you shoot it it as fast
as you can. You get that kind of but when
you go hunting with that, you're gonna dial down to
probably a three hundred and fifty grade slug. You're gonna
shoot abut nine hundred fifty six feet per second. You're
gonna stick around that six hundred and fifty to seve
hundred foot pounds because that is plenty for any animal.
But you got to keep in mind, this is more
black powder and more archery hunting, right, There is no
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kinetic energy that comes in small and blows out the heart. Right.
I when I shot my elk, shot it, it looked
at me ran off.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
We gave some time worked up on it, saw it
was laying down.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I kind of got on a little bit, like just
to make sure that thing that stucker jumped up and
ran for two hours.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
We finally found it. We tracked it and everything found
it and it was dead. And when we got it
and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I pulled out the heart there was a hole in
one side of the heart and a whole same size.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Hole on the other side of the heart.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Really, right, So it's not because it's subsonic, right, So
you've got to get a little bit closer than you've
got to make a precise shot. You can't just sit
in your stand at three hundred yards and you know,
get close and you know that you know that kinetic
energy is going to kind of come through and do.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
The damage it needs to be done.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, So it's a little which which again I've killed
everything out there too with a rifle, so this is
more fun for me.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm not much of an archery person, just never have been,
so this is kind of that.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Like, you know, but there's a lot of times you're
sitting in the woods, you know, one hundred and fifty
yards you're like, come on, come on, you know, and
off they go, and you're like if I had my rifle, right,
So there is that version of a hunting that we
get a lot, but it's just a different thing.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah it is, and it's and it's those the hunters
looking for a little bit different challenge and something that's
going to test their shooting skills and probably their patients
at some point. I don't see why it wouldn't be
a great idea for someone to start looking into something
like this, because how many states can you hunt with
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air guns?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think right now, big game, I think right now
it's twenty seven or twenty eight, So.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We're still we're still there's a there's a.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Like a kind of a coalition of of of air
gun manufacturers and different people. The a S a air
Gun Sporting Association, I think, is what's called. And that's
what we do. We reach out to states and because you.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Have to, you have to go.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You got to we have to write up the legislation,
we have to go and present what we're talking about
to the game and fish because.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
They don't know. They're like, what you know? I mean
if you either know or you don't know, I mean,
that's that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
So we're trying to grow that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
A lot of those states are moving air gun hunting
to black powder season because again similar rent just so
so for you know, for those those deer hunters, you're like, okay,
so I can I get because black powder. You know,
some people like it to pople don't write. So airguns,
it's like, okay, this is I can I can get
a little bit earlier, you know, before before rifle season starts,
(29:57):
which is fun Some of them are starting to allow
because one thing it allows with the arrow guns, are
you know, any disabilities.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
With pulling back the bow?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can now get out And of course the archery
world is you know, how dare you you know? Which
is so funny because the gun world used to be like,
you can't take a deer with an arrow, and you're like,
like in the nineteen fifty it's like, what are you
talking about.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
They're doing it since the beginning of time, right, Yeah,
so everyone, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
But but in my world, if you're given a veteran
or an you know, older person or someone that just
can't pull back a bow a chance to go out
and do some arrow honting, Yeah, even though it's coming
out of a gun, but it you know, it's still
it's still quiet, and it's still safe, and it's similar,
you know, it's the same kind of aiming and and
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Then moving in there, right, stending the distance of your
shot by like two hundred yards. I mean, you're not
all of a sudden going to be like, well, it's
shooting out of a gun, so he's going to be
lethal out to two hundred and fifty yards now like that,
And I think I think that's what people start to think, Well,
you know, that's just giving them an unfair advantage. No,
(31:03):
it's just giving them a means to get out in
the field. I think.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I mean, and that's all they need, Like, they need
that opportunity, you know. So that's intert well.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And if if the outdoor community truly came together and
supported the outdoor community, like if all of our goal
was how do we get more people outside and off
their freaking phones, you know, no one would bitch about
any of this, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Like, oh, you know errows for and air guns for. Yeah, yeah,
let's get them out there, let's get.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Hey, you know there are people out there that would
complain because more people out in the woods are the
whole Nope tags going to go through the roof.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Right, more taxes.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, and that's one of the biggest things too, Right
with air guns, we don't have there is no air
gun tax, right because they're right. So some of the
states are kind of like, ah, this doesn't really work
for us because the.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Money doesn't come back to the state.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So you know, we're trying to feel like, well, okay,
well then you just you charge that tax on the
air gun tag, just like you would on a boat tag.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean, it's you just have to make you.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Know, let's let's let's not don't tell me what you
can't do, right, tell me you can do. But again, politics
is politics. I stay out of that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But there's always I just want to do.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, I think air gun hunting should be fifty state legal.
I think it should be in black powder season, right,
because you're still you know, I'm not I'm not taking
a shot.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Over one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I've taken one shot of a deer at one hundred
and twenty uh and got lucky because.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I spined it. But it's just there's just too much,
you know, I mean, there's just too much. You know.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I know guys win, yeah, but I know guys are
taken like woodchucks and squirrels are like three hundred four
hundred yards with some of these like high powered two hundred,
two thousand and three thousand dollars rifles, get them dialed in.
You're tuning them, you know, because there's those guns right
the gun gear, you get the gun.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
They're like, you can tune everything.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You can increase, decrease the hammer spring, you can do
more air less air.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You got this plant on that planting, you got like
four air gauge. And I'm like, like, I want to
pick up my gun, and I want to put in
the palet and I want.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To pull the trigger and wherever it hits, I'll hit
my target the next shot. Right, I'm more of a
Kentucky wind Gage kind of guy. Then I want to
like I say that I've done it, and once you did.
These guns like like because they have barrel harmonic tuners,
and I mean there's you can geek out on air
guns more than you came with firearms because there's just
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so many options. You have so many cool things to
play with. But at the same time, you know, we're
talking about high pressured air. You know, O rings don't
have the best track record, you know, and when it
comes to not blowing things up, I mean air guns
aren't blowing they aren't blowing up, but I mean, you know,
high pressured air o ring.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You got to take care of your gun.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, you get old, you got it, you know,
you have to take care of But a lot of
the entry level guns that they take that out of
your you don't have to mess with that, right.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
The gun is I have a couple of guns.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
They sit in my safe and every single time I
take them out, they shoot the same.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They're good to go.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, yeah, and there and and they're and they're affordable.
And then, like I said, pellets are pellets, So I'm
dialed in that, right. I got my air tanks, I've
got a compressor, and then now it's just pellets and
and amos way cheaper you know for lead than it
is bullets.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's crazy. Well, dude, thanks for joining us. I appreciate
you giving us a rundown. And uh where can they
go watch? And when should they start watching? And I
mean because season five is currently running, and when does
season six come out?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Season six starts in September.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Uh so we'll shoot that uh this spring with our contestants,
whole new group of outdoor and fluid influencers and shooters
and hunters and sportsmen. Uh So it's gonna be it's
gonna be a pretty fun season and then that'll start September.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And right now you can.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Find the air Gunner Challenge on the Outdoor Channel every
Wednesday night. You can find the American air Gun or
the Hountyshell on the Sportsman channel every Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
You know, check your local listings on.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Friendly TV is a great place if you don't have
it through your cable or satellite, or if you have
like YouTube TV where they don't carry those channels.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Friendly TV is like five bucks a month and you
get you know, you get all.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You get all the fishing and hunting and Outdoor Channel
and Sportsmans.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You can do that, and then you can watch on
your phone.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
It also streams on the outdoor channels UH streaming service
MOTV And then of.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Course go to American Airgun dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
You can buy the seasons there for like twenty bucks
and by the whole season and watch it till your
heart's content.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
And then you know, YouTube and Instagram and X and
all of that. We got, We got all the audiences,
We got all the audiences covered.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Dude. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, I appreciate it. This has been great listen.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
As you can tell, I got so much information it's
hard for me to try to cramp.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I know, man, make this a weekly thing. Yeah, I mean,
I'm telling you when you're you're passionate about something like
it doesn't matter how long you talk, because you can
talk about it. And I love your passion and especially
for bringing it to more people that maybe have lost
the ability to get outdoors and this gives them an
(36:11):
outlet that is so important.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
One of my favorite things to do is in the
winter when you can't go out, is going to my
garage with my pistol, because there's a replica BB pellet
or gun for every pistol out there, so you can
work on draws, morgan shooting and you can do all
that in your garage.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I know, guys that.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You have long houses, no shoot down the hall when
the when the kids are gone, because again it's a
no mess, non destructive, you know, quiet sport.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And you can you can.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
You know, if you're being safe, there's a lot of
opportunity just to keep shooting, no matter the month, no
matter the weather, no matter where you live, because it's quiet,
it's cheap, it's safe, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I love it all right, all you gun talk hunters,
you know the drill. Keep those muzzles pointing in a
safe direction, and always be on the hunt.
All right, Hey, this is all about air guns and
the air Gunner Challenge with Rossi Morielli. Hey, I'm kJ,
dedicated lifelong hunter.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
If you've got an interest in all things hunting, you're
in the right spot. Whether chasing quail across the plains
of Oklahoma or in pursuit of belt in the back
country of British Columbia, you'll always find me on the hunt.
All right, welcome in all you gun talk hunters. I'm
your host, kJ, and Rossi Morielli is with me today
(00:32):
with American air gunner Like this guy has probably forgotten
more about air guns than I'll ever know, and he
has a show he's got kills behind his belt. But
first we're gonna do a poem from AI about Rossi Morielli.
(00:52):
Arkansas made, where razorbacks run and legends are laid. Now
he calls Los Angeles home, but you can't take the
woods out of his bones. From chasing bass at first
lights glow to stalking game when the cold winds blow
on camera or off, it's always the same. A hunter's
heart and an outdoorsman's flame. City streets and Hollywood lights,
(01:15):
but Rossi still lives for opening nights of Seasons of
Stories of Shots that Ring True and Arkansas Soul with
a California view back for you, dude, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hell, I don't know if I could have said any
better myself.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right, I'll tell you. I'm telling you right now. AI
knows too much.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I was like, I think, I like, I just
had a moment with myself.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I'm like, that is me, Like.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Right, it's like you're just is it doesn't miss hey,
like it hasn't missed, like and I like it's it's
it's uncanny. But so that was AI's version. Now, ROSSI like,
give us your version of who ROSSI Moriellie is? Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Man, I would say, first, uh, you know, first things First,
I'm a child with God H and so and that's
good enough.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So I'll start there like that's a that's enough for me.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And then on top of that, I'm a I'm a
I'm a father to little girls ten and.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Eight h.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
All the stuff like yeah, I mean, of all the
stuff I've done in my life, man, being a dad is.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Uh is the best thing ever.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm coaching flag football, I'm coaching soccer, I'm coaching basketball.
My my coaching an all Star team right now with
fifth graders, and we won the Super Bowl last year,
my team with the Razorbacks, and so.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Like I'm just I'm I'm I feel like I'm getting
more out of that than I do anything else.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And and then being a husband, I pride myself on
just being a good husband and loving my wife the
best way I can uh and actually the way that she.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Wants to be loved, which is new for me, not
just hey this.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Is I love like this, deal with it, right, So
so some growth in there and then outside that.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Man, I'm an adventurer.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I have jumped out of airplanes, flown fighter jets, flown
tank ridden in tanks, driven tanks, ramped.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
El Toro Loco. I've been in you know, NASCAR NASCAR trucks.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I've done backflips on motorcycles and chats with trying this house.
I have a hundred fish I have, Like I mean,
there's not enough out there for me that I've already
done and to keep doing. And the most important thing
I want to do is I love to entertain people.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't care if it's if I.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Wake up and there's a you know, stranger mouths.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I'm like Hey, what's going on? Maylance? Do you want
to sit down and talk?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What are you gonna play a game? What do you
wanna do? Yeah, I just loved entertaining.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I do a lot of live events, live speaking,
corporate events. I do a lot of auctions for gallas,
like for charity kind of stuff because I just I
love It's kind of a way for me to give
back and do an hour of.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Standing of comedy while I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So, Man, if you're within a near shot, I'm gonna
talk to you, I'm gonna get to know you. I'm
gonna try to entertain you, uh and just create fun
in this life.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Man, we don't have we ain't got that long.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So trying to create as much much good times along
the way as I can.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And I'm feeling I feel like you're aging faster than
normal because you have two daughters, Like I feel that
would age me quick.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
This this used to be black, like not too long ago.
The hair, so I haven't touched, right, the hair is
still still good. No no real no real good A
little bit right. But I'm I'm I think I'm maintained.
I think I was, you know when you just well
before I had.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Daughters, I was like, I'm gonna have daughters, Like I
think I was born for daughters. Like I just think
I'm the kind of guy that was born for daughters
in like a good way.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm all about raising strong women, but I can. But also,
strong women don't intimidate me, right. I know a lot
of guys are like, O, I want a strong one.
I'm like, oh, you don't.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You can't handle those with your wife is because she's
got too much of a personality and too many opinions
and you don't like it.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So I think I think I'm genuinely geared for that. Yeah,
And I just love empowered.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Like I love coaching right now because I like empowering
these young girls to young women as as fifth graders,
like I've.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Coached little boys. When you coach little boys, you're like, Branda, listen,
shut up, do what I tell you, right and and
and they're like that girl, Yeah, I can't do those girls.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
And so I will tell you man, especially like now
like this on fourth grade, fifth grade.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I'm like, how can I coach you better?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Like help me speak to you in a way that
helps you understand and makes you want to be better?
And they're like huh. And it's funny because then I
actually come home and say that same thing to my wife.
You wouldn't believe how much it works. Like when you
when you respect and empower your wife would.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Say, honey, I want to hear, I want to know
talk to me. But it's really a good response. So
I'm gonna I'm gonna try to do that more.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm learning more about my wife through a fifth grade
All Star team than I think I have in fifteen
years of marriage.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So pretty funny. Yeah, man, So do you get them?
So talk a little bit about American air Gunner. And
we were just talking about this right before we hopped
on like that, I mean, you've you're you're going to
be filming season six coming up and potentially getting me
(06:31):
out there to film. Where do you guys film it?
And what what's that process like for you guys, and
kind of give them a little background on American air Gunner.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
So we've got two shows. There's two shows.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
American air Gunner is the overall brand, right, and then
there what was American air Gunner When I got started
in twenty thirteen, it was kind of a magazine show, right,
So every a bloc beat, you know, A or D
bloc were something different. It was a five minute hunt
new gun coming out John Gunnery thing. We would go
to some you know, like a Texas gun show or
(07:02):
something like that, and then we'd go to like a
some sort of an event, right, So it was just
kind of the world of air guns, which you can
imagine the amount of people that cared about that, which
was seven seven people cared about that. So that was
in twenty thirteen, and that was the show. It was
a show by ume Rex Who's Who's a gun company?
An air gun manufacturer. That was their It was their show.
(07:25):
I was just a host, yeah, and so we only
talked about a couple of types of guns, and it
was the types that they make and they sell more
of the Walmart style like kind of like lower end guns.
At the time, I did not I was a TV host.
I was a Chunkyard Wars on you know TLC. I
was doing Dating in the Dark on ABC. I had
a at the time, I had a show called Cane
(07:45):
You Duet on CMT. It was like for country duos
like American Idom, but for country doos. I was I
was an Arkansas boy came out to California on vacation,
stumbled into TV and just started hosting TV show. I
mean like you could tell I got a lot of
energy and that all that stuff comes naturally. So I
buddy of mine from from back from Arkansas was was like, man,
(08:06):
you gotta we're looking for a host for this show.
Like would you mentioned I'm like sure. So I start shooting.
I'm like, what's an air gun I had? I had
a Daisy red Rider at a crossman, the pump Master
seven twenty, and then I got a twenty two and
a four teen shotgun and you know.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Pretty much everyone story right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And I get out there and they they they want
to see because because the guys they think I'm some
California Hollywood or whatever. So I go back to see
my family for Christmas or Thanksgiving or something.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
They're like, well, let's meet up and you know, come
up and do some shooting.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
They put like eight bottles on the you know room,
and they give me a fifty caliber air gun.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I'm like what is this. They're like, fifty caliber
a gun.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
That's a gun.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I'm like, what do you mean? Air gun?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like right, my head's like like everybody like airsoft, you know,
like that's what everybody says, chilting.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
About a two hundred fifty grand slug.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Probably I think that gun's one of the smaller, what's
probably like seven hundred per second, you know, doing three
hundred fifty four hundred foot pounds. And you know I
got bang, bang bang. It's accurate. I hit all the bottles.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, you know, I'm fifteen yards away.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I mean, wasn't that They just wouln't see if I
didn't shoot, And I'm like, man, So I started hosting
American air Gunner.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So American air Gunner was that show.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I took over in twenty nineteen, and in twenty eighteen
or that that season on twenty eighteen, we shot. We
we turned it into a hunting show like we went
on just because that was when like fifty cow like
big time fifty cal or three fifty seventh thees arrow guns.
We shot an arrow through a production van just to
see if so we could find.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Something to stop it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It's shooting these arrows out of the gun at five
six hundred feet per second with a broadhead on it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I mean it sucker is hum.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I shot it through a one inch cutting board, like
at one hundred yards, Like we get to the well,
I'm like, did I hit it?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know we got but Noah, like that I had it.
The hole like this big, the things that thick. I mean,
I was like, what is what is this? Right? So
we going? We still?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We started doing hunting shows and I mean that that
that beautiful beast you've got.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right behind you. I've got one in my.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Dad's lake cabin that I shot with a fifty caber
umerex hammer.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Really uh yeah. He came around a corner.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I dropped down on our knee, shot it, got hit
in the face, scoped me and that thing took one
step and dropped. That's a seven hundred and fifty pounds
yeah beast, right, I mean so then it was like
what what we went?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I mean it was red stack.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I shot a hog out of a helicopter, one shot
and flipped it.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Kudo. We went to Africa.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean I shot the first bull elk with an
air gun in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
It was like, what can you not hunt with an
air how?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't think, I really don't think there's much that
you can't do with an air gun and not you know,
if the government knew the kind of power those were packing,
they probably wouldn't be so keen on them because they
don't seem to want to touch those.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But they're still considered beat guns.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean that's what they think. If you say
an air gun, they're going, okay, like your little red rider.
All these are a little bit different than that. But
my my hunting experience with air guns was we went
off to Puerto Rico and we we laid waste iguanash.
My gosh, that is that is so much fun. If
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you're out there and you're you're within earshot or you're
watching this man, that is a must hunt because.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Well you can go down to Florida and do it now,
Yeah you can. It's legal in Florida with air guns.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
To take iguanas within the city limits. You got to
go through one of the licensed guys down there. But
we have done that many times because iguanas are crazy
and you get these twenty two thirty thirty cow thirty
three fifty.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Seven's and then you know it's like, I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
He'll yeah, and they want you to shoot them, yeah,
like they're invasive.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's it's the air gun hunting side of things was
was crazy and so we so so American air Gunner,
the hunting show airs on the Sportsman Channel in twenty twenty.
During COVID I right before, I was like, I mean,
I want to do it. I used to love Top Shot.
I used to love top Shot and it just disappeared.
(12:17):
And so I was like, one day I'm gonna I'm
gonna do like.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
My version of Top Shot with airguns.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And we did it. We just did in five days.
We shot ten episodes. I got some airgun buddies that
I knew and we did it. And when COVID hit,
I had it packaged and edited.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I call him. I was like, guy, guys, I got
I got content ready to go. They took it on
and here we are.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Season five's Aaron right now, we're about shoot Season six
and so that's the air Gunner Challenge and that's on
the Outdoor Channel.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And so those are the two shows we have.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So there's We did twelve seasons of American air Gunner.
Our last season was in twenty twenty four. It me
and my dad and two female hunters went to Africa
to ten planes game animals with air guns, arrow guns
like you name it the animals.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I still can't. I'm always like, what if I shoot
the one thing and had the fining feeling?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
But like I got a kudoo that was a killer
shot with a forty five caliber, took a zeb wrae,
we took two, will debase one with a sixty two
caliber air gun shooting a six hundred and fifty grand
slug at nine hundred feet per second.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Gee, it's like, can't foods.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I'm so in the realm of like both action rifles
and like and high power stuff like that doesn't compute
to my head, Like it doesn't compute. That goes like
whole second you're shooting how big of a slug and
it's traveling nine hundred.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I mean for the people, isn't like as big as
your thumb?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, Like that's that's how big the top part of
your thumb, that's how big?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And again, what's an air gun? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So, so these air guns have some sort of a
air tube on the the guns look for the most
part normal. A lot of times you'll see it looks
like a little bit of an air tank, similar to paintball.
But I do not want to give in on the
idea like it is not a paintball gun. But what
we're doing is we're filling those guns up with forty
five hundred psi.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, you fill up a scuba tank with five thousand psi.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Okay, So you fill like an air gun or a
paintball gun with three hundred psi. Okay, So we're filling
these tanks up with forty five hundred psi. And then
you're just you're taking what looks like a regular bullet.
Just it's just a big chunk of lead. Uh, ninety
percent of might say probably more than especially for a
big game hunting or holowpoints, right, because everything's subsonic, right,
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You're not right?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
That's what is an.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Eleven fifty eleven like thirty seven or something is the
spiece of So everything is subsnic uh, and you're and
you're shooting just just it's just propelled by air. No,
we don't have a backpack. No we don't look like Ghostbusters. No,
you don't have to pump put up like it's It
just looks like a gun. And within the confines of
gun is this air tank that's holding all this air,
(14:56):
high pressured air. And then you know, then it kind
of goes into like a little plinum. And then when
when it releases the same thing like with like with
like a trigger, when it's a it's a you know,
hits the bullet it it it hits a valve and
it just releases air like a right and it poses
and so that amount of air and for the bigger
gun it's probably like eleven hundred or you know, like
like PSI is released quick it and it fires that
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that projectile out. So with a fifty cow, you know,
you're getting three shots, maybe four shots. With a twenty
two you're getting eighty shots. Right, the air is it
just takes less air to move that project right, right,
you got a let's you know whatever, You got a
twenty two grain pellet versus five hundred and fifty grain slug, right,
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So less shots the bigger you go.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And then and then you know when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
The air gunner challenge, because there's arrow guns, there's full auto.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, okay, i auto. They're sick fifty state legal full
auto air guns shooting pellets.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Now, all these pellet guns and air guns are now
moving to slugs. Even in the one seven seven E
twenty two, we're still shooting these tiny twenty grain twenty
five gran thirty grand slugs.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So for hunting squirrels.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
If you've ever been turkey hunting with an air gun,
it's the best because if a group comes in, you
get your limit because they don't one falls over.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They just lower around like well, well that and they
just keep moving and it's it's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Let's let's we're gonna jump in here, We're gonna take
a quick break. But on the back end of this,
I do want to explore this, like how how do
you select, like when you're looking at air guns, Like
how do you select what's right for you? And I
guess it's all on what do you want to accomplish.
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We are talking with the out of American air Gunner
and the is it American air gun Challenge or air
gunn or Challenge.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Air Gunner Challenge. I mean I think it's unfortunately, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
It's been it's both now. So like sometimes if you're
if you're looking on.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
You know, the the guide on the TV, it's like
American air Gunner Challenge on the show, where like.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, air Gunner Challenge, but overall it's probably American
air Gunner Challenge. It would be the proper all right name.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I mean we've got into a little bit of starting
like getting the background of like hunting with these air
guns and their capabilities of it, like, and then average
guy who is not really familiar with this that I mean,
let's be honest, Like in my neighborhood, I cannot shoot
a firearm. However, right, however, BB guns, air guns they're
(19:50):
less frowned upon, but they're they're packing just as much
heat as you want. Like, it depends on what you
go with. So how do you select? Like where how
do you ROSSI When someone comes up to you says, dude,
I don't know what to get, Like, how do you
direct them?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I mean, first of all, it's it's it's what do
you what do you want? The biggest problem with.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Air guns you have to have an air source, right,
So you can't There's not a air compressor at home
depot that can provide enough air to fill your gun, right,
So you have to It's that specialty thing, right. You
either have to have a the right tank, like a
carbon fiber tank or.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Either you go a lot of guys go to the
local if there is a scuba shop or an air
yeah or an air tank.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like an air paintball shop.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You can go and get the tank filled up there, right,
because you need to put forty five hundred and five
thousand PSI into that tank, right.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So, so so that's kind of the one thing. Right.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You can't walk into a store, buy a gun, buy
some ammo, and go shoot. That's going to always be
the problem with air guns. But once you're set up,
I can shoot all day long for ten bucks.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I mean I could take I mean, how much is
a ten of pellets? Right?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So, so so that's the beauty, right, And the guns
are you know some of them. There's everything from an
entry level air gun that's that's an accurate like a
good inchry le a gun you can get around the
let's call it, you know, sub five hundred bucks. And
then there's the competition.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Air guns that are you know, in the twenty five
hundred dollars range.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
There's a big there's a big competition in Utah called
the Rocky Mountain Air Gun Challenge.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Utah air Guns puts it on unred.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
There's one hundred and thirty thousand dollars in price money
out there. But we're shooting at we're shooting one hundred
yards at the like at a pencil racer. Yeah, right,
and and you've got twenty five shots, only one shot
per and these guys are putting some of these guys
are like twenty of them.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They're hitting the ten in, which is the size of
an rnswer at one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, when again you're shooting, you're shooting a you know,
twenty five grain slug.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
So so the slightest bit of win moves that thing.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah, quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You know, if you're not hunting, you don't need anything
three fifty seven or above, right, if you're going to
go hunting, like in Texas. Because the other thing too,
right now, is that what we're doing as a collective
is going to we have to go to the game
and Fish of every state and say we want to
open up argun hunting for larger than usually turkey, sometimes coyote, uh,
sometimes rabbit.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Is that is the largest?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, okay, that's not Wow, Like you hear that, you
hear my my, my neighbors, Masarati that you started, sorry,
Masarati just started. That's awesome. I heard, I thought I
heard something. I was like, was that my stomach? I
think it was No, it was a Masarati.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You want me to pause here and let.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
This man let him run it.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So so, so that's the thing right now. Now, the
beauty of arragus too is everything. They're great entry level guns.
It's a great way to teach your kids, young kids,
female shooters news how to shoot because you can, you know,
and you're like this, it's like, I mean, there's there's no.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Recoil at all. So we are on the show.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
We're opening beer bottles with a pellet, we're lighting matches
with because you can dial it in because you don't
have to there's no return back to you were just
dialed in. Right, your eyes are open, you know, you
got both eyes open. You can see everything and there's
no movement from that gun. So you get to just
I mean, you can get so precise, which is what's
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great about them. I can do sniper style shooting at
fifty yards right where I don't have to go to
a range and go to a thousand yards with my ruber.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Right, I can play with it.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
If you're a gun geek and you like to like
really dial something in, you can do it with every gun.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah. See, that's my problem is that if I have
to go if I want to go, like really test
my accuracy and test my distances. I've got to go
find a range that's an out fifteen hour and twenty
minutes away. It's out in the sticks. Whereas you, I
mean you really need fifty yards you need I mean,
you get away with one hundred yards, so you get
even more precise.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I guess, well, you get more fun if on a
windy day.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I mean, some of the best shooting is like you
just go out with your your argun on a windy
day and you're like, let me see what I can hit,
and you can and you can find it. And I mean,
I want a competition with a two hundred and fifty
yard shot with a forty five caliber with a twenty
four inch drop, and I hit a six inch kill
zone on a couty and I got disqualified because I
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was supposed to shoot the eight inch wolf to the
right and I hit the six inch and I was like,
I'll take a disqualification.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Think it, and yes, now you would like you hit
the more difficult target right. So I mean, it's it's
it's just it's it's fun. It's different.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
But as far as like what air gun to go with,
it's what do you want to do. You want to
shoot your backyard, give you I give you a hundred
gun in the three hundred to seven hundred dollars range
that are quiet, that make zero noise, that you can sit.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
There and plink and shoot all day.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
All you need is any kind of stopper, right, because
you're still you're still subsonic. You're not a mess up
your neighbors. If one gets away from you, it hits
a tree, it's gonna fall down, right, It's not.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
It's not just.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Traveling through and through and through and through, right, it's
not going through anything. So that's the kind of stuff
that I think is greatful because you can go out
in your backyard with your kids.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You can shoot all day long, and when it's dinner time,
you're run.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Inside, right, and you're not. It's not a dollar fifty
every time you pull a trigger, right, it's it's it's
it's two cents. So so that's the biggest thing. Now,
if you want to go like Texas laws, at some
of these state laws, they have a minimum right, so
it's like you have to have at least four hundred
foot pounds or whatever. And so that's what they're doing
with these air guns. When we go to the game
and fishing kind of say like, hey, we want to
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get big game honey going on the state, then we
have to show them the gun show what they can do.
We draw up the laws for them, and we've kind
of made that where people aren't being idiots and trying
to take a deer with a you know, a pell gun, right,
You're using the right tool for the job. So most
of those so I would say, you know, big game
hunting three fifty seven minimum shooting slugs, but it's got
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to be a high pier. Three ety seven, forty five
and above is probably better because you got forty five, fifty,
sixty two and seventy two calendar. The center to caliber
is hilarious. It's a fifteen hundred grand slug. It's I mean,
it's a it's.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I mean, that's African big game.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I feel like like an elephant.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's like hitting something with a softball at.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
That How much how much energy is that carrying down range?
I mean, that's gotta be tremendous amount of Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Mean I think I think that one.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I mean air Force they just came with a new
textan that's doing eleven hundred foot pounds.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Good gosh, that was just released a shot show.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
So now you're like, my mind around this, So.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I think that's uh, but you know, but you know
the tricks of that kind of stuff, right.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You put super super super super super super.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Super heavy grain slug, you shoot it it as fast
as you can. You get that kind of but when
you go hunting with that, you're gonna dial down to
probably a three hundred and fifty grade slug. You're gonna
shoot abut nine hundred fifty six feet per second. You're
gonna stick around that six hundred and fifty to seve
hundred foot pounds because that is plenty for any animal.
But you got to keep in mind, this is more
black powder and more archery hunting, right, There is no
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kinetic energy that comes in small and blows out the heart. Right.
I when I shot my elk, shot it, it looked
at me ran off.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
We gave some time worked up on it, saw it
was laying down.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I kind of got on a little bit, like just
to make sure that thing that stucker jumped up and
ran for two hours.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
We finally found it. We tracked it and everything found
it and it was dead. And when we got it
and everything.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I pulled out the heart there was a hole in
one side of the heart and a whole same size.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Hole on the other side of the heart.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Really, right, So it's not because it's subsonic, right, So
you've got to get a little bit closer than you've
got to make a precise shot. You can't just sit
in your stand at three hundred yards and you know,
get close and you know that you know that kinetic
energy is going to kind of come through and do.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
The damage it needs to be done.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, So it's a little which which again I've killed
everything out there too with a rifle, so this is
more fun for me.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm not much of an archery person, just never have been,
so this is kind of that.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Like, you know, but there's a lot of times you're
sitting in the woods, you know, one hundred and fifty
yards you're like, come on, come on, you know, and
off they go, and you're like if I had my rifle, right,
So there is that version of a hunting that we
get a lot, but it's just a different thing.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah it is, and it's and it's those the hunters
looking for a little bit different challenge and something that's
going to test their shooting skills and probably their patients
at some point. I don't see why it wouldn't be
a great idea for someone to start looking into something
like this, because how many states can you hunt with
(28:56):
air guns?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think right now, big game, I think right now
it's twenty seven or twenty eight, So.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We're still we're still there's a there's a.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Like a kind of a coalition of of of air
gun manufacturers and different people. The a S a air
Gun Sporting Association, I think, is what's called. And that's
what we do. We reach out to states and because you.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Have to, you have to go.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You got to we have to write up the legislation,
we have to go and present what we're talking about
to the game and fish because.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
They don't know. They're like, what you know? I mean
if you either know or you don't know, I mean,
that's that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
So we're trying to grow that.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
A lot of those states are moving air gun hunting
to black powder season because again similar rent just so
so for you know, for those those deer hunters, you're like, okay,
so I can I get because black powder. You know,
some people like it to pople don't write. So airguns,
it's like, okay, this is I can I can get
a little bit earlier, you know, before before rifle season starts,
(29:57):
which is fun Some of them are starting to allow
because one thing it allows with the arrow guns, are
you know, any disabilities.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
With pulling back the bow?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can now get out And of course the archery
world is you know, how dare you you know? Which
is so funny because the gun world used to be like,
you can't take a deer with an arrow, and you're like,
like in the nineteen fifty it's like, what are you
talking about.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
They're doing it since the beginning of time, right, Yeah,
so everyone, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
But but in my world, if you're given a veteran
or an you know, older person or someone that just
can't pull back a bow a chance to go out
and do some arrow honting, Yeah, even though it's coming
out of a gun, but it you know, it's still
it's still quiet, and it's still safe, and it's similar,
you know, it's the same kind of aiming and and
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Then moving in there, right, stending the distance of your
shot by like two hundred yards. I mean, you're not
all of a sudden going to be like, well, it's
shooting out of a gun, so he's going to be
lethal out to two hundred and fifty yards now like that,
And I think I think that's what people start to think, Well,
you know, that's just giving them an unfair advantage. No,
(31:03):
it's just giving them a means to get out in
the field. I think.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I mean, and that's all they need, Like, they need
that opportunity, you know. So that's intert well.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
And if if the outdoor community truly came together and
supported the outdoor community, like if all of our goal
was how do we get more people outside and off
their freaking phones, you know, no one would bitch about
any of this, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Like, oh, you know errows for and air guns for. Yeah, yeah,
let's get them out there, let's get.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Hey, you know there are people out there that would
complain because more people out in the woods are the
whole Nope tags going to go through the roof.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Right, more taxes.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Well, and that's one of the biggest things too, Right
with air guns, we don't have there is no air
gun tax, right because they're right. So some of the
states are kind of like, ah, this doesn't really work
for us because the.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Money doesn't come back to the state.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So you know, we're trying to feel like, well, okay,
well then you just you charge that tax on the
air gun tag, just like you would on a boat tag.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I mean, it's you just have to make you.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Know, let's let's let's not don't tell me what you
can't do, right, tell me you can do. But again, politics
is politics. I stay out of that.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
But there's always I just want to do.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, I think air gun hunting should be fifty state legal.
I think it should be in black powder season, right,
because you're still you know, I'm not I'm not taking
a shot.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Over one hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I've taken one shot of a deer at one hundred
and twenty uh and got lucky because.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I spined it. But it's just there's just too much,
you know, I mean, there's just too much. You know.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
I know guys win, yeah, but I know guys are
taken like woodchucks and squirrels are like three hundred four
hundred yards with some of these like high powered two hundred,
two thousand and three thousand dollars rifles, get them dialed in.
You're tuning them, you know, because there's those guns right
the gun gear, you get the gun.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
They're like, you can tune everything.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
You can increase, decrease the hammer spring, you can do
more air less air.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You got this plant on that planting, you got like
four air gauge. And I'm like, like, I want to
pick up my gun, and I want to put in
the palet and I want.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To pull the trigger and wherever it hits, I'll hit
my target the next shot. Right, I'm more of a
Kentucky wind Gage kind of guy. Then I want to
like I say that I've done it, and once you did.
These guns like like because they have barrel harmonic tuners,
and I mean there's you can geek out on air
guns more than you came with firearms because there's just
(33:35):
so many options. You have so many cool things to
play with. But at the same time, you know, we're
talking about high pressured air. You know, O rings don't
have the best track record, you know, and when it
comes to not blowing things up, I mean air guns
aren't blowing they aren't blowing up, but I mean, you know,
high pressured air o ring.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You got to take care of your gun.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, you get old, you got it, you know,
you have to take care of But a lot of
the entry level guns that they take that out of
your you don't have to mess with that, right.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
The gun is I have a couple of guns.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
They sit in my safe and every single time I
take them out, they shoot the same.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
They're good to go.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, yeah, and there and and they're and they're affordable.
And then, like I said, pellets are pellets, So I'm
dialed in that, right. I got my air tanks, I've
got a compressor, and then now it's just pellets and
and amos way cheaper you know for lead than it
is bullets.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's crazy. Well, dude, thanks for joining us. I appreciate
you giving us a rundown. And uh where can they
go watch? And when should they start watching? And I
mean because season five is currently running, and when does
season six come out?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Season six starts in September.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Uh so we'll shoot that uh this spring with our contestants,
whole new group of outdoor and fluid influencers and shooters
and hunters and sportsmen. Uh So it's gonna be it's
gonna be a pretty fun season and then that'll start September.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And right now you can.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Find the air Gunner Challenge on the Outdoor Channel every
Wednesday night. You can find the American air Gun or
the Hountyshell on the Sportsman channel every Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
You know, check your local listings on.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Friendly TV is a great place if you don't have
it through your cable or satellite, or if you have
like YouTube TV where they don't carry those channels.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Friendly TV is like five bucks a month and you
get you know, you get all.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You get all the fishing and hunting and Outdoor Channel
and Sportsmans.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
You can do that, and then you can watch on
your phone.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
It also streams on the outdoor channels UH streaming service
MOTV And then of.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Course go to American Airgun dot com.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
You can buy the seasons there for like twenty bucks
and by the whole season and watch it till your
heart's content.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
And then you know, YouTube and Instagram and X and
all of that. We got, We got all the audiences,
We got all the audiences covered.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Dude. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, I appreciate it. This has been great listen.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
As you can tell, I got so much information it's
hard for me to try to cramp.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I know, man, make this a weekly thing. Yeah, I mean,
I'm telling you when you're you're passionate about something like
it doesn't matter how long you talk, because you can
talk about it. And I love your passion and especially
for bringing it to more people that maybe have lost
the ability to get outdoors and this gives them an
(36:11):
outlet that is so important.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
One of my favorite things to do is in the
winter when you can't go out, is going to my
garage with my pistol, because there's a replica BB pellet
or gun for every pistol out there, so you can
work on draws, morgan shooting and you can do all
that in your garage.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
I know, guys that.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
You have long houses, no shoot down the hall when
the when the kids are gone, because again it's a
no mess, non destructive, you know, quiet sport.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
And you can you can.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
You know, if you're being safe, there's a lot of
opportunity just to keep shooting, no matter the month, no
matter the weather, no matter where you live, because it's quiet,
it's cheap, it's safe, and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I love it all right, all you gun talk hunters,
you know the drill. Keep those muzzles pointing in a
safe direction, and always be on the hunt.
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