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This is handle on the Law,marginal legal advice where I tell you you
have absolutely no case. All right. I've told this story before. I've
talked about this both on the MorningShow, and I think here on handle
on the Law. And that hasto do with a couple of three Silicon
Valley billionaires who've decided they're going tobuild this utopian city in Solano County up
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north sort of Silicon Valley area.And the name of the firm that is
creating this, that was created bythese billionaires, I got together and made
this form this firm, Flannery Associates, and they started buying up property.
I mean buying up property like whateighteen thousand acres or sixteen thousand acres,
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and they're going to establish this entirecommunity. I mean schools and hospitals and
multifamily dwellings and homes, a bigdeal. It's going to be a modern
sort of planned community. And sothey went ahead and started buying this up
and now, and the prices wentthrough the roof because the property owners around
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there said let's got together and saidlet's raise prices. And the Flannery Associates
sued them for violation of federal antitrustlaw, and they actually have in fact
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settled with some of them. Wedon't know what the settlement is at this
point. Now, keep in mind, Flannering Associates has already spent eight hundred
million dollars on the land and theyare suing dozens of landowners for five hundred
and ten million dollars in damages becausethey claimed quote through endless greed. They
work together to check up sales oftheir property. And so here's what happen.
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Last week. Judge Troy Nunneley inUS Federal District Court in Sacramento denied
an attempt by those landowners that arebeing sued to deny price fixing and get
the case thrown out. They wantedto get the case thrown out. Big
win for Flannery. And here's whatthe judge noted twenty twenty two. There
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they are. You've got messages backand forth between property owners that said we're
going to nail Flannery and they're saying, oh, no, no, we
really didn't do that. That's notwhat it really meant. I don't know.
So we'll see if this project continues. Now that just means the lawsuits
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going forward doesn't mean they're going towin. It's the California Forever project,
and you're going to see all ofthese thousands of acres of land, are
going to see a city literally risefrom farmland. And then there's a whole
sociological issue here in the US,I mean straw nationwide attention, big debates
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here in California. Should the ultrarich even be building cities? Should agricultural
land be sacrificed for housing and jobsand economic development? Well, you know
what do you do? By theway, the company wants to put initiative
next November on the ballot in SolanoCounty to rezone eighteen thousand acres for this
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project. So we'll see what happensin court. Interesting case, big deal
up there in the north of SanFrance. Oh no, oh no,
Roma, no no, We're notgoing to do this sink cold damage anymore.
Not a chance, not a chance. Roma. If you're a list,
Oh you know what, here wego? You know? Hey?
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Roma? Yes, goodbye? Allright? Uh Sue, Hello, Sue
you there? Yes, yes,yes, hello, yes, I'm here.
Hi mister Handel. Yes, Ipersonally I like to say it was
a pleasure meeting you. Several yearsago here in Santiana at the Bowers Museum.
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Yes, it was my husband andI. It was a great day.
Oh well, well it's my pleasureor not. What can I do
for you? Well, sir,my issue is I am the trust s
door, the executor, the conservatorover my parents living trust to handle all
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about selling of the parents home.I'm handling it from the beginning to the
end. It is in escrow rightnow. Okay, hang on, okay,
hold on, waait are your parentsa live or dad at this point?
No? They passed. Oh sothey're gone. So now and you
are the trustee of this trust.Yes, okay, So when you talk
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about a home and escrow, theyhad a home that you, as trustees
sold on behalf of the trust.Correct. Yes, it's an estray right
now because once once it's sold,it goes to three shares, right,
I got it. My two brothersalready passed, so it goes to their
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beneficiaries, and that's the way thetrust was written. Yes, okay.
Now my question is how much Ido tell the other beneficiaries what's going on
with the house. My question ishow much do I have to answer to
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them that they put a question outthere. I met another. Can I
see the contract to the contract ofthis sale? Sue that they don't.
They really don't, you know.They just get the proceeds. They get
the proceeds and there it is,and if they want to see you can
say, hey, sue me this. My job is to sell the property
and give it to you. Onthe other hand, why wouldn't you if
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they're the beneficiaries and you sold itin good faith and got a reasonable price,
and it was arm's length that yousold it to a stranger and you
got market price, you did sellit to a family member, you didn't
buy it yourself. Just say,hey, here's the contract, here's the
trust. Leave me alone. Okay, you got a problem, talk to
the real estate broker. I don'tcare, and the broker will tell them.
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They go tell yeah, se no, you're you're right, sir.
I did tell them the price.I did say this what the house is
being sold for, and I'm takingcare of it as I have my agent.
What's what's your question? How much? So I don't I'm just telling
them what's going on. The Okay, the questions like I want to see
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the trust, say no, you'reyou're allowed to. You're allowed just to
say no. And you say tothem, hey, you have a problem.
You go hire a lawyer. It'sseven hundred dollars an hour to force
me to show you the contract.Are you going to win? I have
no idea, but I will tellyou, family member of Sue is you're
going to pay for a lawyer,and the estate is going to pay to
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on this side. So in theend you pay, and the estate,
which means the trust, uh,the trust property pay so they're actually paying
for both sides. And you say, effact, if that's worth it to
you to see the documents, whichprobably you'll see anyway. I just don't
want to show them to you now. Then you contest it after the fact.
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And if you want to contest itnow, okay, yeah, just
tell me, just tell them leaveme alone. Now. On the other
hand, if you show them everything, they leave you alone, because what's
wrong with showing it to them?You know, what do you lose?
You show it to them, youknow it's legitimate, everything is on the
up and up, and you showit to England, then don't talk me.
Talk to me again. That's theeasiest way to hap. But you
don't have to. Yeah you don't. I mean beneficiaries all the time,
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okay. And Amy, Hello Amy? Yes Hi, Hi, mister Handa.
How are you? It couldn't beworse. You can call me Bill.
Okay, okay, So my questionis real quick recap of this horrible
nightmare that I've been living through.So I had solder put on my roof
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back in twenty nineteen. It turnedout that the installation proved leaked through my
roof, so the roof was repairedbefore that. The company had you sign
an R and R, which isa removal and reinstall complimentary R and R.
So they came, removed their panels, set them on the side of
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my house. Did they say pairwere completed and they fixed the roof?
Right? Yes? Okay? Sorry? Yeah? And well so, so
now, as per the R andR agreement, is states, you know,
uh, complimentary removals, we'll repairand we'll come back and reinstall the
panels of charge. I let themknow the repairs were conceded that day the
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guys were cleaning up. I sentan email right away and they never got
back to me to set up anappointment to reinstall. I did get a
message after my inquiry saying, hey, the repairs are done. You know,
you know, I'm ready for reinstallany day. I got a message
from one of one of mine's manycase managers stating, okay, the repairs
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were done, cases closed and blahblah blah, and I never heard anything
back for weeks, you know.So life went on and I did contact
themselves. So you didn't, youdidn't have the panels reinstalled. They're sitting
still, sitting by the side ofyour house at this point, right,
correct, okay, correct, yes, okay. So I did move on
with another solar path company and theyhave their panels on top of my my
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roofs now. And now the firstthe first company, he's like, well,
I breached contract because I had Iremoved the panels and all right,
all right, so they're telling sowhat are they what are they asking you
to do? They want me tobuy the system out right? Oh you
already you've leased it? Correct?Correct? Okay, and they want they
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want you to buy it. Idon't know if they have the right to
have you buy it. It's theleasing company that you're dealing with, not
them, and you sue and whateverthe leasing company does. What I would
do is whatever the repair costs becausebecause they didn't install them, I mean
they were how long were those panelssitting on the side of the house.
They've been there since last year,like last Wow. Okay, that's an
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easy one. That's an easy one. You simply I mean you still owe
them money, the leasing company thatyou can't do anything about. And whatever
it cost you to reinstall that roofnew panels, that said, or you
just sue them for it. Youassue them. I mean that's yeah,
it actually covered the repairs because itwas there, I understand, but they
didn't. But they didn't reinstall thepanels, so you have so you're you're
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not you're not charging them or suingthem for the repair of the roof.
They did that, but they didn'treinstall the panel. I'm assuming all this
in writing where you demanded you sayyou're not doing it. I mean you
have all of that right, Well, of course, yeah, the emails
and yeah, I assume whatever costhow much did it cost you to put
a new system in? Well itwas free installation on this second doesn't matter.
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How much how much did it costyou to put the new system in?
What'd you spend? Uh? Well, nothing, out right. Wait
wait, wait, so that you'veleased it twice? I know I leased.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'mbuying the second one. Okay,
how much? How much is itcosting you? It's going to be about
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twenty four that's your lawsuit. That'syour lawsuit. It's that simple. You
assume for that. Yeah, Imean you're out twenty four grand. They
should it should be working, andit's not. Caesar, Hello, Caesar,
welcome, Hi Bill? How youdoing? Bill? I had I
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was just wondering. I was involvedin a serious auto accident with my wife
and my granddaughter a little over ayear ago. And uh, and the
individual that calls the accident, Uh, well she was held liable, but
unfortunately he didn't survive. And sooh that is a serious How how badly
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were you folks injured? You andyour wife and your granddaughter? Well,
thankfully, my daughter, my granddaughterwas taking the children's hospital and and she
checked out fine. She just sufferedthis. Okay, so she's in good
shape, thank you. Mark.Okay, how about how about you and
your wife? Uh, it's adifferent story. Yeah, my wife has
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multiple fractures. Oh okay, andI sustained an injury on the left shoulder.
I have the full rotate, yes, okay, all right, yeah
you were. It's a pretty seriousaccident. Okay, So what's your question,
Caesar? So my question is hisinsurance submitted uh letter acknowledging and assuming
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full liability of the negligency of theirdriver. And so they listed the amounts
on there the poor person and perhapsokay, so they gave so all right,
so they told you what the coveragewas, all right, So now
what so now I would like toknow if we if we would be able
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to sue for more than on topof the coverage. Okay, how much
money are we talking about that theyhad that the driver had It was two
hundred and fifty for person five total, all right, five hundred thousand dollars
all right? And are their offeringand they're willing to offer you the full
five hundred thousand? Correct, Wellwe haven't. We're nowhere near that that.
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Uh yeah, Caesar, let meask you have you been have you
talked to a personal injury lawyer?Are you represented? I am? Okay?
And what is and what is yourlawyer telling you? Well? I
had been asked them that this iswhy I wanted an opinion before I start,
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because my wife is still under treatment. Okay, No, I understand
you've got you've got huge damages.I'm not arguing that. What is your
what is your lawyer telling you?What? We haven't gotten there yet.
All I've been doing is just submittingthe receipts. Okay at this point,
okay, okay, okay. Sowhat Here's what's going on. You are
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in the beginning stages of a majoraccident with major injuries. There's a five
hundred thousand dollars limit in terms ofwhat the insurance company will pay, because
that's the policy limits. Now,is that enough to cover your damages?
Because that's all you're going to get, Caesar, if you settle with that,
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if they offer you the full fivehundred, LI say, offer you
four hundred or three fifty. Ifyou settle that and accept the money,
it is over. You cannot suethe driver or the estate of the driver.
You've accepted that payment as full,full settlement for all injuries and damages.
So the answer is you cannot goafter the driver on top of the
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insurance you're going to get paid.Now if the driver is wealthy, and
people say, I'm not taking it, I'd rather go to court. You
can always do that, but rarely, rarely do people to do that.
So right now, it looks likeyou're doing the right thing. And if
you're unhappy with your lawyer, youcan go to it. By the way,
there's nothing wrong with the second opinion. You can go to handle on
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the law dot com. We've gotpersonal injury lawyers there and they'll be more
than happy to tell you, yeah, your lawyer's doing great. Just leave
it alone, the very honest oryou got to think again. All right.
So that's a tough one. Butyes, who's a good question.
Can I go after the driver ontop of what I get paid from the
insurance from his insurance coming, No, you can't. If you accept it,
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Everything in one space. Oh okay, yeah, here we go, Chris,
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Hello, Chris, welcome. Yeah. I was wondering if I had
a Russell death taste there. Mywife's mother went to the hospital the other
like seven hundred miles away, somy wife wouldn't be there to try and
help make decisions because you know,their daughters don't have a spouse or anything.
And her uncle was up there already, you know, lives up there.
He was making all the decisions.And my wife, Chris, hold
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on, what decisions? Medical decisions? Did your uncle make medical decision?
He made the medical decision. Ishe a doctor? Yeah? Yeah,
because she had swell Okay, holdon, he is a doctor. He
is her uncle, and he mademedical decisions. Correct, correct, okay,
and see, okay, what wantedto make Okay? Was he to
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hold on? I'm gonna I'm gonnaget this straightened out. Was he treating
her? Was he her treating physician? No? No, no, So
her uncle just lived up there,and made the decisions because she had bleeding
in the brain. You know,she wasn't and then he went and made
the decisions. You know what thestarter you know, for like a week
and a half. Hang on asecond. So he had so there was
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a not a neurologist, it wouldbe a brain surgeon, neurosurgeon because she
had so she had swelling in thebrain. What kind of medicine? What
kind of medicine does he practice?Her uncle? No? No, no,
no, I guess I didn't explaincorrectly. Her uncle was just making
decisions. Okay, okay, youhad told me, you told me he
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was a doctor. Okay, okay, So now so a neurosurgeon is going
to listen to what uncle says whois not a doctor about her medical care?
Is that correct? Wow? What? What did? What did your
uncles say that the neurosurgeon followed thoserequests? Uh? He was saying that
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she was brain dead and everything,and and the neurosurgeon went ahead and said,
yep, yep, uncle, I'lltake your word for that, she's
brain dead. Did they do anytests? Uh? Did they do any
and did they run any brain scans? Yeah? He said CT scan and
something of their eyes. I can'tremember that, all right? So did
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it show that that she did havebrain uh brain waves? Yeah? Okay?
But so what did the what didthe neurosurgeon do as a result of
brain activity? Well, we weren'tactually there. I don't care what,
I don't care. What did whatdid the neurosurgeon do, Chris? I
want to know because this, Imean, this is important. He gave
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her the CT scan and okay,he did a bunch of tests with her
eyes and did he and and didthe did the neurosurgeon say she was brain
dead? Yeah? Okay? Sookay, fair enough. What what did
your uncle, her uncle say,because what medical decision did your did her
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uncle make? He made the decisionjust to let her die? Oh okay,
got it? Boy? That wasthat was that's a long time.
Yeah that came. Uh who wantedher to live? My wife wanted her
to live, okay, my uncle, her uncle wanted her to die.
Okay. And they listened okay,and they listened to her uncle, which
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is which is the and that washis uh anything? Well that did your
daughter have any power of attorney thatshe knows? Okay? So you got
all right? Okay, so youhave someone seven hundred miles away. Uh?
Did she called the hospital and sayI'm on my way and this is
my mom. Yeah, she shecalled the hospital that she wanted to you'll
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have some kind of decision making.She didn't want her to pass, right,
Okay, I get it. Souncle will talk to her, all
right? And uncle? But didwe talk to the uncle? Yes?
I thought she talked to her unclewanted to Chris. Did the hospital talk
to her? And you said thatthey wouldn't. They wouldn't. They didn't
have anything to do with it.She wouldn't talk. The hospital wouldn't talk
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to her. Did she called it? He had to talk to her uncle.
She said the uncle was controlling everythingand and she had to talk to
her uncle to make some kind ofdecision through the hospital. Okay, And
uncle decided to pull the plug.Exactly there. God, it took forever
to get there, Chris, comeon, come on, all right,
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So you want to know so thedoctor. So the doctor says she's not
braindead. Uh, uncle says,pull the plug. So I'm assuming she's
on the Okay, now she was. She was on life support at that
time. Correct, No, No, she didn't, she wasn't any kind
of life support. So what doyou what do you tell? So tell
me what pulling the plug means ifshe's not on life support, feeding her,
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not feeding her and just giving herdrugs. Okay, not feeding her.
Okay, that's days and days beforesomeone died. When did your when
did your wife realize that her dadwas where her mom was in the hospital.
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It took a couple of weeks beforeher uncle called because he was thinking
she was going to get better orsomething. But then she just cut worse
and he had to and he hadthe hospital starve her without any directive at
all. He just came in thereand said, I'm her brother, I
want you to starve her and yourand on top of that, let me
get this right, Christian, makingit very difficult for me and your and
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her uncle didn't tell her that momis in the hospital until two weeks later,
right, yes, correct? Okay, God, all right? And
you want to know who do youwant to sue? Her uncle? He
was making all these decisions. Okay, I understand who do so you want
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to sue? You want to sueher uncle because because he said starve her
to death without a directive, hejust made that decision. That's interesting,
right, it should have had youknow, my wife should have had some
kind of influence. Absolutely, absolutely, no, there's no question about it.
There's no question about it. Asa matter of fact, your wife
has more decision. The daughter ismore of a decision than the brother than
the brother has Yeah, all right, I got it. So now the
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argument is would she have died anyway? I mean, she had brain waves?
I'm assuming was she in a coma? She wasn't on the machine.
She wasn't on the machine. Theysaid she failed and she had some bleeding
on her brain. I don't carehow she got injured ing on the brain?
How serious was a bleeding on thebrain, because if she had brain
waves, was she in a coma? Yeah, I'm not sure about that.
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You got another mean you got no? This is pretty specific stuff because
are you arguing? Are you arguing? Basically, they they withdrew nutrition,
let her die simply because the unclesaid, make her die. I want
you to withdraw everything, food andeverything. That's that's what happened. There,
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You go, Okay, I callher malpractice attorney, medical malpractice attorney.
It's been a pleasure. Oh thatwas like pulling teeth why I let
that go that long? I haveabsolutely no idea. Maybe it's just too
wild the story. You know,there she is brain waves. She fine.
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Uncle comes in and goes starve herto death, and the neurosurgeon says,
fine by me, We're not gonnalet her eat. But then again,
I have to tell you I've beenin the hospital before, and when
the food the hospital serves, you'rebetter off starving to death. That I
can tell you. Dave, welcome, Thank you very much. I had
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a stroke in the morning. Mywife found me on the kitchen floor where
I'd fallen hit the floor. Shecalled nine one one, and AM one
showed up with in a regional amountof time, five minutes or so.
But when she asked them to takeme to a stroke hospital, which is
in a nearby county, they saidno. The only hospital they were allowed
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to take me to was one thatis two miles away. Yeah, okay,
let me, Dave, hold ona minute. A stroke hospital.
I don't quite know what a strokehospital is. Explain that one to me.
They have a stroke hospital in thenext county. That that's a regular
hospital, but it specializes in stroke. Okay, so they have a division
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okay, all right, no,I understand, okay, all right,
So they took you to a hospitalthat's closer and wouldn't take you to the
hospital you wanted to go to,right right, Okay, it's a different
the other ones in a different county. That's why they said, no,
that's took me to them. Theytook me to the local hospital, which
is two miles away, rolled mein next to the emergency room, and
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left me sit there for three days. Wait and hold on, wait wait,
wait, well, well wait theyrolled you in. Okay, you
got to explain about what happened.Okay, you're on a gurney. You
get to the hospital, and wheredid they roll you to? Right outside
the emergency room and in the waitingroom? No, right next to where
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the door to the emergency room was. Okay, So that is I want
to get hold on a second.I want to get the I want to
get the geography here. Correct.All right, you have emergency room doors
and you're right out outside the emergencyroom doors. What was that room?
Was that a foyer? Was anentrance hall, It was a hallway,
and they left you there for threedays. The nurse came by, but
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my wife they would not let mywife in because she did not come in
the ambalance and it took herds orsomething. That's really tell me about it.
Yeah, it's really weird. Okay. So then three days my wife
finally got in after a couple ofhours, kept telling him she thought I
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had a stroke due to the facebeing this figure and that sort of thing.
And finally, after three days shetook me, put me in her
car, which they didn't want herto do, and drove me to another
hospital that was eighteen miles away.At this hospital. At this hospital,
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they rushed me the emergency room,took one look at me, said I
have a stroke, but because ithad been since a long amount of time,
there was not a thing they coulddo. So Dave, Dave,
tell me what your your damages are. I see that you're a little bit
uh, you know they I cantell there's a little bit something off.
I'm not a doctor, but Ican tell there's a medical issue there.
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What uh as a result of thestroke. What's going on with you physically?
Well, I'm in a wheelchair?Okay, were you in a wheel
Sorry? No, no, no, Dave, You're doing fine. You're
doing fine. All I said isI can hear there's something going on.
Uh you were were you in awheelchair prior to the stroke? No,
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Dave, fair enough, Dave.Do you have an attorney on this?
Well, that's what I want tofind an attorney. Yeah, you got
to you have to, Yes,you have to find a medical matter.
Well, I've approached a lot ofattorneys. Here, phone numbers, the
advertise that's really weird. Okay,I watched them all. Nobody won't take
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because that is well, it's youknow, there's probably a lot more to
it. I mean, sitting inoutside of an emergency room on a gurney
for three days, I mean,I've emergence room rooms are a long wait
three days having a stroke on agurney, that's a little bit long.
Do they feed you at least?Over the three days? They just kept
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going by and they said, yes, we realize it. We'll get to
you. Okay. Number one.I was half the time not really whatever.
I couldn't say anything. Okay,Well, there's all kinds of based
on what you tell me, there'sI mean, there's all kinds of issues
here. Not letting your wife inbecause you can come in the ambulance with
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you I've never heard of that.Taking you to a hospital that's the closest.
That's what they do. They that'swhat they do. They take you
to the hospital and then if youFor example, I'm a member of Kaiser
UH Kaiser Insurance, which is uhthe biggest HMO on the West coast.
Great, I've been with him sevenfive so I've had medical issues. The
ambulance has taken me to the nearesthospital, which is not a high uh,
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which is not a Kaiser facility.They've stabilized me and then off I
go an ambulance to Kaiser. Sowhat happened to you is not at all
unusual. But the three days andnot letting your wife in that is tough.
So I'm gonna suggest you go tohandle on the law dot com and
uh, there are I've I've donethe handle and no and no one wants
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your case. Well, now letme send it as far as hand.
I'm sorry, you've got you've gotspecialization. Uh. Handle dot com did
not. I couldn't see him.Now, No, just just call it.
I understand, I call the personalinjury guy. Okay, he answers.
The phone call they handle on thedot com is run by a guy
named Mark who is phenomenal and hehelps everybody. Go to Handle on the
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law dot com and talk to him, say that you and I talked and
we talked on the show, andsee if he can help you out,
because that's so bizarre. I meanthree days in a hospital in a gurney
outside the emergency room, wife notallowed in that, and a major stroke
going on now in a wheelchair.I mean there's a lot going on there.
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I mean a lot. Okay,I want to finish up with talking
about pain, talking about hospitals,chronic pain. Chronic pain is exactly what
it sounds like. It never goesaway. It's always there, and it
can be debilitating and I can reallyreally interfere with your life. And this
is what the Pain Game podcast isall about. If you live in chronic
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pain or you know someone who doesthe Pain Game podcasts, some place to
go. It's a show about livingin, living with, uh with,
living with and deal with chronic painand trauma. It's not about whining either.
It's actually about shifting your mindset becausethat's where pain comes from and that's
where you can control pain. AndI've known the host Lindsay soprano for a
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whole bunch of years, and shedeals with chronic pain. This is her
life and she helps people deal withit twenty four to seven, and she
does it heroically, and she hasexperts in the field, lawyers, stay
at home moms, people who eitherhave it or dealt with it or are
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This is handle on the Law,marginal legal advice where I tell you you
have absolutely no case. All right. I've told this story before. I've
talked about this both on the MorningShow, and I think here on handle
on the Law. And that hasto do with a couple of three Silicon
Valley billionaires who've decided they're going tobuild this utopian city in Solano County up
(00:24):
north sort of Silicon Valley area.And the name of the firm that is
creating this, that was created bythese billionaires, I got together and made
this form this firm, Flannery Associates, and they started buying up property.
I mean buying up property like whateighteen thousand acres or sixteen thousand acres,
(00:49):
and they're going to establish this entirecommunity. I mean schools and hospitals and
multifamily dwellings and homes, a bigdeal. It's going to be a modern
sort of planned community. And sothey went ahead and started buying this up
and now, and the prices wentthrough the roof because the property owners around
(01:12):
there said let's got together and saidlet's raise prices. And the Flannery Associates
sued them for violation of federal antitrustlaw, and they actually have in fact
(01:33):
settled with some of them. Wedon't know what the settlement is at this
point. Now, keep in mind, Flannering Associates has already spent eight hundred
million dollars on the land and theyare suing dozens of landowners for five hundred
and ten million dollars in damages becausethey claimed quote through endless greed. They
work together to check up sales oftheir property. And so here's what happen.
(02:00):
Last week. Judge Troy Nunneley inUS Federal District Court in Sacramento denied
an attempt by those landowners that arebeing sued to deny price fixing and get
the case thrown out. They wantedto get the case thrown out. Big
win for Flannery. And here's whatthe judge noted twenty twenty two. There
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they are. You've got messages backand forth between property owners that said we're
going to nail Flannery and they're saying, oh, no, no, we
really didn't do that. That's notwhat it really meant. I don't know.
So we'll see if this project continues. Now that just means the lawsuits
(02:43):
going forward doesn't mean they're going towin. It's the California Forever project,
and you're going to see all ofthese thousands of acres of land, are
going to see a city literally risefrom farmland. And then there's a whole
sociological issue here in the US,I mean straw nationwide attention, big debates
(03:07):
here in California. Should the ultrarich even be building cities? Should agricultural
land be sacrificed for housing and jobsand economic development? Well, you know
what do you do? By theway, the company wants to put initiative
next November on the ballot in SolanoCounty to rezone eighteen thousand acres for this
(03:35):
project. So we'll see what happensin court. Interesting case, big deal
up there in the north of SanFrance. Oh no, oh no,
Roma, no no, We're notgoing to do this sink cold damage anymore.
Not a chance, not a chance. Roma. If you're a list,
Oh you know what, here wego? You know? Hey?
(03:58):
Roma? Yes, goodbye? Allright? Uh Sue, Hello, Sue
you there? Yes, yes,yes, hello, yes, I'm here.
Hi mister Handel. Yes, Ipersonally I like to say it was
a pleasure meeting you. Several yearsago here in Santiana at the Bowers Museum.
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Yes, it was my husband andI. It was a great day.
Oh well, well it's my pleasureor not. What can I do
for you? Well, sir,my issue is I am the trust s
door, the executor, the conservatorover my parents living trust to handle all
(04:46):
about selling of the parents home.I'm handling it from the beginning to the
end. It is in escrow rightnow. Okay, hang on, okay,
hold on, waait are your parentsa live or dad at this point?
No? They passed. Oh sothey're gone. So now and you
are the trustee of this trust.Yes, okay, So when you talk
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about a home and escrow, theyhad a home that you, as trustees
sold on behalf of the trust.Correct. Yes, it's an estray right
now because once once it's sold,it goes to three shares, right,
I got it. My two brothersalready passed, so it goes to their
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beneficiaries, and that's the way thetrust was written. Yes, okay.
Now my question is how much Ido tell the other beneficiaries what's going on
with the house. My question ishow much do I have to answer to
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them that they put a question outthere. I met another. Can I
see the contract to the contract ofthis sale? Sue that they don't.
They really don't, you know.They just get the proceeds. They get
the proceeds and there it is,and if they want to see you can
say, hey, sue me this. My job is to sell the property
and give it to you. Onthe other hand, why wouldn't you if
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they're the beneficiaries and you sold itin good faith and got a reasonable price,
and it was arm's length that yousold it to a stranger and you
got market price, you did sellit to a family member, you didn't
buy it yourself. Just say,hey, here's the contract, here's the
trust. Leave me alone. Okay, you got a problem, talk to
the real estate broker. I don'tcare, and the broker will tell them.
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They go tell yeah, se no, you're you're right, sir.
I did tell them the price.I did say this what the house is
being sold for, and I'm takingcare of it as I have my agent.
What's what's your question? How much? So I don't I'm just telling
them what's going on. The Okay, the questions like I want to see
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the trust, say no, you'reyou're allowed to. You're allowed just to
say no. And you say tothem, hey, you have a problem.
You go hire a lawyer. It'sseven hundred dollars an hour to force
me to show you the contract.Are you going to win? I have
no idea, but I will tellyou, family member of Sue is you're
going to pay for a lawyer,and the estate is going to pay to
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on this side. So in theend you pay, and the estate,
which means the trust, uh,the trust property pay so they're actually paying
for both sides. And you say, effact, if that's worth it to
you to see the documents, whichprobably you'll see anyway. I just don't
want to show them to you now. Then you contest it after the fact.
(07:46):
And if you want to contest itnow, okay, yeah, just
tell me, just tell them leaveme alone. Now. On the other
hand, if you show them everything, they leave you alone, because what's
wrong with showing it to them?You know, what do you lose?
You show it to them, youknow it's legitimate, everything is on the
up and up, and you showit to England, then don't talk me.
Talk to me again. That's theeasiest way to hap. But you
don't have to. Yeah you don't. I mean beneficiaries all the time,
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okay. And Amy, Hello Amy? Yes Hi, Hi, mister Handa.
How are you? It couldn't beworse. You can call me Bill.
Okay, okay, So my questionis real quick recap of this horrible
nightmare that I've been living through.So I had solder put on my roof
(08:31):
back in twenty nineteen. It turnedout that the installation proved leaked through my
roof, so the roof was repairedbefore that. The company had you sign
an R and R, which isa removal and reinstall complimentary R and R.
So they came, removed their panels, set them on the side of
(08:54):
my house. Did they say pairwere completed and they fixed the roof?
Right? Yes? Okay? Sorry? Yeah? And well so, so
now, as per the R andR agreement, is states, you know,
uh, complimentary removals, we'll repairand we'll come back and reinstall the
panels of charge. I let themknow the repairs were conceded that day the
(09:18):
guys were cleaning up. I sentan email right away and they never got
back to me to set up anappointment to reinstall. I did get a
message after my inquiry saying, hey, the repairs are done. You know,
you know, I'm ready for reinstallany day. I got a message
from one of one of mine's manycase managers stating, okay, the repairs
(09:41):
were done, cases closed and blahblah blah, and I never heard anything
back for weeks, you know.So life went on and I did contact
themselves. So you didn't, youdidn't have the panels reinstalled. They're sitting
still, sitting by the side ofyour house at this point, right,
correct, okay, correct, yes, okay. So I did move on
with another solar path company and theyhave their panels on top of my my
(10:03):
roofs now. And now the firstthe first company, he's like, well,
I breached contract because I had Iremoved the panels and all right,
all right, so they're telling sowhat are they what are they asking you
to do? They want me tobuy the system out right? Oh you
already you've leased it? Correct?Correct? Okay, and they want they
(10:26):
want you to buy it. Idon't know if they have the right to
have you buy it. It's theleasing company that you're dealing with, not
them, and you sue and whateverthe leasing company does. What I would
do is whatever the repair costs becausebecause they didn't install them, I mean
they were how long were those panelssitting on the side of the house.
They've been there since last year,like last Wow. Okay, that's an
(10:48):
easy one. That's an easy one. You simply I mean you still owe
them money, the leasing company thatyou can't do anything about. And whatever
it cost you to reinstall that roofnew panels, that said, or you
just sue them for it. Youassue them. I mean that's yeah,
it actually covered the repairs because itwas there, I understand, but they
didn't. But they didn't reinstall thepanels, so you have so you're you're
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not you're not charging them or suingthem for the repair of the roof.
They did that, but they didn'treinstall the panel. I'm assuming all this
in writing where you demanded you sayyou're not doing it. I mean you
have all of that right, Well, of course, yeah, the emails
and yeah, I assume whatever costhow much did it cost you to put
a new system in? Well itwas free installation on this second doesn't matter.
(11:33):
How much how much did it costyou to put the new system in?
What'd you spend? Uh? Well, nothing, out right. Wait
wait, wait, so that you'veleased it twice? I know I leased.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'mbuying the second one. Okay,
how much? How much is itcosting you? It's going to be about
(11:54):
twenty four that's your lawsuit. That'syour lawsuit. It's that simple. You
assume for that. Yeah, Imean you're out twenty four grand. They
should it should be working, andit's not. Caesar, Hello, Caesar,
welcome, Hi Bill? How youdoing? Bill? I had I
(12:16):
was just wondering. I was involvedin a serious auto accident with my wife
and my granddaughter a little over ayear ago. And uh, and the
individual that calls the accident, Uh, well she was held liable, but
unfortunately he didn't survive. And sooh that is a serious How how badly
(12:39):
were you folks injured? You andyour wife and your granddaughter? Well,
thankfully, my daughter, my granddaughterwas taking the children's hospital and and she
checked out fine. She just sufferedthis. Okay, so she's in good
shape, thank you. Mark.Okay, how about how about you and
your wife? Uh, it's adifferent story. Yeah, my wife has
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multiple fractures. Oh okay, andI sustained an injury on the left shoulder.
I have the full rotate, yes, okay, all right, yeah
you were. It's a pretty seriousaccident. Okay, So what's your question,
Caesar? So my question is hisinsurance submitted uh letter acknowledging and assuming
(13:28):
full liability of the negligency of theirdriver. And so they listed the amounts
on there the poor person and perhapsokay, so they gave so all right,
so they told you what the coveragewas, all right, So now
what so now I would like toknow if we if we would be able
(13:54):
to sue for more than on topof the coverage. Okay, how much
money are we talking about that theyhad that the driver had It was two
hundred and fifty for person five total, all right, five hundred thousand dollars
all right? And are their offeringand they're willing to offer you the full
five hundred thousand? Correct, Wellwe haven't. We're nowhere near that that.
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Uh yeah, Caesar, let meask you have you been have you
talked to a personal injury lawyer?Are you represented? I am? Okay?
And what is and what is yourlawyer telling you? Well? I
had been asked them that this iswhy I wanted an opinion before I start,
(14:41):
because my wife is still under treatment. Okay, No, I understand
you've got you've got huge damages.I'm not arguing that. What is your
what is your lawyer telling you?What? We haven't gotten there yet.
All I've been doing is just submittingthe receipts. Okay at this point,
okay, okay, okay. Sowhat Here's what's going on. You are
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in the beginning stages of a majoraccident with major injuries. There's a five
hundred thousand dollars limit in terms ofwhat the insurance company will pay, because
that's the policy limits. Now,is that enough to cover your damages?
Because that's all you're going to get, Caesar, if you settle with that,
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if they offer you the full fivehundred, LI say, offer you
four hundred or three fifty. Ifyou settle that and accept the money,
it is over. You cannot suethe driver or the estate of the driver.
You've accepted that payment as full,full settlement for all injuries and damages.
So the answer is you cannot goafter the driver on top of the
(15:48):
insurance you're going to get paid.Now if the driver is wealthy, and
people say, I'm not taking it, I'd rather go to court. You
can always do that, but rarely, rarely do people to do that.
So right now, it looks likeyou're doing the right thing. And if
you're unhappy with your lawyer, youcan go to it. By the way,
there's nothing wrong with the second opinion. You can go to handle on
(16:11):
the law dot com. We've gotpersonal injury lawyers there and they'll be more
than happy to tell you, yeah, your lawyer's doing great. Just leave
it alone, the very honest oryou got to think again. All right.
So that's a tough one. Butyes, who's a good question.
Can I go after the driver ontop of what I get paid from the
insurance from his insurance coming, No, you can't. If you accept it,
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Everything in one space. Oh okay, yeah, here we go, Chris,
(17:18):
Hello, Chris, welcome. Yeah. I was wondering if I had
a Russell death taste there. Mywife's mother went to the hospital the other
like seven hundred miles away, somy wife wouldn't be there to try and
help make decisions because you know,their daughters don't have a spouse or anything.
And her uncle was up there already, you know, lives up there.
He was making all the decisions.And my wife, Chris, hold
(17:41):
on, what decisions? Medical decisions? Did your uncle make medical decision?
He made the medical decision. Ishe a doctor? Yeah? Yeah,
because she had swell Okay, holdon, he is a doctor. He
is her uncle, and he mademedical decisions. Correct, correct, okay,
and see, okay, what wantedto make Okay? Was he to
(18:02):
hold on? I'm gonna I'm gonnaget this straightened out. Was he treating
her? Was he her treating physician? No? No, no, So
her uncle just lived up there,and made the decisions because she had bleeding
in the brain. You know,she wasn't and then he went and made
the decisions. You know what thestarter you know, for like a week
and a half. Hang on asecond. So he had so there was
(18:27):
a not a neurologist, it wouldbe a brain surgeon, neurosurgeon because she
had so she had swelling in thebrain. What kind of medicine? What
kind of medicine does he practice?Her uncle? No? No, no,
no, I guess I didn't explaincorrectly. Her uncle was just making
decisions. Okay, okay, youhad told me, you told me he
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was a doctor. Okay, okay, So now so a neurosurgeon is going
to listen to what uncle says whois not a doctor about her medical care?
Is that correct? Wow? What? What did? What did your
uncles say that the neurosurgeon followed thoserequests? Uh? He was saying that
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she was brain dead and everything,and and the neurosurgeon went ahead and said,
yep, yep, uncle, I'lltake your word for that, she's
brain dead. Did they do anytests? Uh? Did they do any
and did they run any brain scans? Yeah? He said CT scan and
something of their eyes. I can'tremember that, all right? So did
(19:32):
it show that that she did havebrain uh brain waves? Yeah? Okay?
But so what did the what didthe neurosurgeon do as a result of
brain activity? Well, we weren'tactually there. I don't care what,
I don't care. What did whatdid the neurosurgeon do, Chris? I
want to know because this, Imean, this is important. He gave
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her the CT scan and okay,he did a bunch of tests with her
eyes and did he and and didthe did the neurosurgeon say she was brain
dead? Yeah? Okay? Sookay, fair enough. What what did
your uncle, her uncle say,because what medical decision did your did her
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uncle make? He made the decisionjust to let her die? Oh okay,
got it? Boy? That wasthat was that's a long time.
Yeah that came. Uh who wantedher to live? My wife wanted her
to live, okay, my uncle, her uncle wanted her to die.
Okay. And they listened okay,and they listened to her uncle, which
(20:36):
is which is the and that washis uh anything? Well that did your
daughter have any power of attorney thatshe knows? Okay? So you got
all right? Okay, so youhave someone seven hundred miles away. Uh?
Did she called the hospital and sayI'm on my way and this is
my mom. Yeah, she shecalled the hospital that she wanted to you'll
(21:02):
have some kind of decision making.She didn't want her to pass, right,
Okay, I get it. Souncle will talk to her, all
right? And uncle? But didwe talk to the uncle? Yes?
I thought she talked to her unclewanted to Chris. Did the hospital talk
to her? And you said thatthey wouldn't. They wouldn't. They didn't
have anything to do with it.She wouldn't talk. The hospital wouldn't talk
(21:26):
to her. Did she called it? He had to talk to her uncle.
She said the uncle was controlling everythingand and she had to talk to
her uncle to make some kind ofdecision through the hospital. Okay, And
uncle decided to pull the plug.Exactly there. God, it took forever
to get there, Chris, comeon, come on, all right,
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So you want to know so thedoctor. So the doctor says she's not
braindead. Uh, uncle says,pull the plug. So I'm assuming she's
on the Okay, now she was. She was on life support at that
time. Correct, No, No, she didn't, she wasn't any kind
of life support. So what doyou what do you tell? So tell
me what pulling the plug means ifshe's not on life support, feeding her,
(22:14):
not feeding her and just giving herdrugs. Okay, not feeding her.
Okay, that's days and days beforesomeone died. When did your when
did your wife realize that her dadwas where her mom was in the hospital.
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It took a couple of weeks beforeher uncle called because he was thinking
she was going to get better orsomething. But then she just cut worse
and he had to and he hadthe hospital starve her without any directive at
all. He just came in thereand said, I'm her brother, I
want you to starve her and yourand on top of that, let me
get this right, Christian, makingit very difficult for me and your and
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her uncle didn't tell her that momis in the hospital until two weeks later,
right, yes, correct? Okay, God, all right? And
you want to know who do youwant to sue? Her uncle? He
was making all these decisions. Okay, I understand who do so you want
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to sue? You want to sueher uncle because because he said starve her
to death without a directive, hejust made that decision. That's interesting,
right, it should have had youknow, my wife should have had some
kind of influence. Absolutely, absolutely, no, there's no question about it.
There's no question about it. Asa matter of fact, your wife
has more decision. The daughter ismore of a decision than the brother than
the brother has Yeah, all right, I got it. So now the
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argument is would she have died anyway? I mean, she had brain waves?
I'm assuming was she in a coma? She wasn't on the machine.
She wasn't on the machine. Theysaid she failed and she had some bleeding
on her brain. I don't carehow she got injured ing on the brain?
How serious was a bleeding on thebrain, because if she had brain
waves, was she in a coma? Yeah, I'm not sure about that.
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You got another mean you got no? This is pretty specific stuff because
are you arguing? Are you arguing? Basically, they they withdrew nutrition,
let her die simply because the unclesaid, make her die. I want
you to withdraw everything, food andeverything. That's that's what happened. There,
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You go, Okay, I callher malpractice attorney, medical malpractice attorney.
It's been a pleasure. Oh thatwas like pulling teeth why I let
that go that long? I haveabsolutely no idea. Maybe it's just too
wild the story. You know,there she is brain waves. She fine.
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Uncle comes in and goes starve herto death, and the neurosurgeon says,
fine by me, We're not gonnalet her eat. But then again,
I have to tell you I've beenin the hospital before, and when
the food the hospital serves, you'rebetter off starving to death. That I
can tell you. Dave, welcome, Thank you very much. I had
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a stroke in the morning. Mywife found me on the kitchen floor where
I'd fallen hit the floor. Shecalled nine one one, and AM one
showed up with in a regional amountof time, five minutes or so.
But when she asked them to takeme to a stroke hospital, which is
in a nearby county, they saidno. The only hospital they were allowed
(25:40):
to take me to was one thatis two miles away. Yeah, okay,
let me, Dave, hold ona minute. A stroke hospital.
I don't quite know what a strokehospital is. Explain that one to me.
They have a stroke hospital in thenext county. That that's a regular
hospital, but it specializes in stroke. Okay, so they have a division
(26:00):
okay, all right, no,I understand, okay, all right,
So they took you to a hospitalthat's closer and wouldn't take you to the
hospital you wanted to go to,right right, Okay, it's a different
the other ones in a different county. That's why they said, no,
that's took me to them. Theytook me to the local hospital, which
is two miles away, rolled mein next to the emergency room, and
(26:26):
left me sit there for three days. Wait and hold on, wait wait,
wait, well, well wait theyrolled you in. Okay, you
got to explain about what happened.Okay, you're on a gurney. You
get to the hospital, and wheredid they roll you to? Right outside
the emergency room and in the waitingroom? No, right next to where
(26:48):
the door to the emergency room was. Okay, So that is I want
to get hold on a second.I want to get the I want to
get the geography here. Correct.All right, you have emergency room doors
and you're right out outside the emergencyroom doors. What was that room?
Was that a foyer? Was anentrance hall, It was a hallway,
and they left you there for threedays. The nurse came by, but
(27:12):
my wife they would not let mywife in because she did not come in
the ambalance and it took herds orsomething. That's really tell me about it.
Yeah, it's really weird. Okay. So then three days my wife
finally got in after a couple ofhours, kept telling him she thought I
(27:33):
had a stroke due to the facebeing this figure and that sort of thing.
And finally, after three days shetook me, put me in her
car, which they didn't want herto do, and drove me to another
hospital that was eighteen miles away.At this hospital. At this hospital,
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they rushed me the emergency room,took one look at me, said I
have a stroke, but because ithad been since a long amount of time,
there was not a thing they coulddo. So Dave, Dave,
tell me what your your damages are. I see that you're a little bit
uh, you know they I cantell there's a little bit something off.
I'm not a doctor, but Ican tell there's a medical issue there.
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What uh as a result of thestroke. What's going on with you physically?
Well, I'm in a wheelchair?Okay, were you in a wheel
Sorry? No, no, no, Dave, You're doing fine. You're
doing fine. All I said isI can hear there's something going on.
Uh you were were you in awheelchair prior to the stroke? No,
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Dave, fair enough, Dave.Do you have an attorney on this?
Well, that's what I want tofind an attorney. Yeah, you got
to you have to, Yes,you have to find a medical matter.
Well, I've approached a lot ofattorneys. Here, phone numbers, the
advertise that's really weird. Okay,I watched them all. Nobody won't take
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because that is well, it's youknow, there's probably a lot more to
it. I mean, sitting inoutside of an emergency room on a gurney
for three days, I mean,I've emergence room rooms are a long wait
three days having a stroke on agurney, that's a little bit long.
Do they feed you at least?Over the three days? They just kept
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going by and they said, yes, we realize it. We'll get to
you. Okay. Number one.I was half the time not really whatever.
I couldn't say anything. Okay,Well, there's all kinds of based
on what you tell me, there'sI mean, there's all kinds of issues
here. Not letting your wife inbecause you can come in the ambulance with
(29:52):
you I've never heard of that.Taking you to a hospital that's the closest.
That's what they do. They that'swhat they do. They take you
to the hospital and then if youFor example, I'm a member of Kaiser
UH Kaiser Insurance, which is uhthe biggest HMO on the West coast.
Great, I've been with him sevenfive so I've had medical issues. The
ambulance has taken me to the nearesthospital, which is not a high uh,
(30:15):
which is not a Kaiser facility.They've stabilized me and then off I
go an ambulance to Kaiser. Sowhat happened to you is not at all
unusual. But the three days andnot letting your wife in that is tough.
So I'm gonna suggest you go tohandle on the law dot com and
uh, there are I've I've donethe handle and no and no one wants
(30:41):
your case. Well, now letme send it as far as hand.
I'm sorry, you've got you've gotspecialization. Uh. Handle dot com did
not. I couldn't see him.Now, No, just just call it.
I understand, I call the personalinjury guy. Okay, he answers.
The phone call they handle on thedot com is run by a guy
named Mark who is phenomenal and hehelps everybody. Go to Handle on the
(31:04):
law dot com and talk to him, say that you and I talked and
we talked on the show, andsee if he can help you out,
because that's so bizarre. I meanthree days in a hospital in a gurney
outside the emergency room, wife notallowed in that, and a major stroke
going on now in a wheelchair.I mean there's a lot going on there.
(31:26):
I mean a lot. Okay,I want to finish up with talking
about pain, talking about hospitals,chronic pain. Chronic pain is exactly what
it sounds like. It never goesaway. It's always there, and it
can be debilitating and I can reallyreally interfere with your life. And this
is what the Pain Game podcast isall about. If you live in chronic
(31:49):
pain or you know someone who doesthe Pain Game podcasts, some place to
go. It's a show about livingin, living with, uh with,
living with and deal with chronic painand trauma. It's not about whining either.
It's actually about shifting your mindset becausethat's where pain comes from and that's
where you can control pain. AndI've known the host Lindsay soprano for a
(32:13):
whole bunch of years, and shedeals with chronic pain. This is her
life and she helps people deal withit twenty four to seven, and she
does it heroically, and she hasexperts in the field, lawyers, stay
at home moms, people who eitherhave it or dealt with it or are
treating it, have relatives who haveit, family members. The show ends.
(32:34):
Every episode ends with a message ofhope. And then counterintuitively, you'll
understand that the show is actually givingpain a purpose. That it's just it
sounds weird, but you'll see whatI'm talking about when you go to the
Pain Game podcast. New episode dropsevery Tuesday morning. It's the Pain Game
Podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts, the Pain Game podcasts. And before
(32:59):
I leave, I want to tellyou that I am taking phone calls for
those of you that are on theon the phone, on the on hold,
on the phone, stay put,uh, don't go any place.
I'll pick up your calls in justa moment. And if you want to
call in, feel free. Thenumber is eight hundred five two zero one
five three four eight hundred five twozero one five three four and you call
(33:20):
in right now, coming up it'sthe Tech Show with Rich Dumurow and it's
Neil Sabedra, fourth reporter. Twoto five. I'm back on Monday morning
with the morning show. This isHandle on the Law
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