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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty. The bill handles show
on demand on the iheartradiop Now, of course you've been
hearing and dealing with if you've been there with these
demonstrations against Israel going on throughout the country, and a
lot of them here in southern California.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
One of the big ones was at.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
UCLA, and so lawsuits have been filed and they're on
either side these demonstrations, primarily anti Israel pro Palestinian demonstrations,
with some anti Palestinians pro Israel demonstrations to a lesser
degree in fewer people, and some of them have gotten
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pretty vicious, one particularly at UCLA, and so a local
Jewish man has filed a lawsuit against two groups that
led demonstration demonstrations a kraus or outside of LA Synagogue
that ended up in violence, and it was all kinds
of national condemnation against the demonstrator, including President Biden and
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LA Mayor Karen Boss. The lawsuit was filed against Code Pink,
it's a feminist anti war organization, and at the same
time against the Palestinian Youth Movements, a grassroots group that
oppose Zionism and are calling for a ceasefire in Gaza
like right now. Now, people were injured at that demonstration.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So here is a local Jewish man.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And he said he was trying to walk into a
synagogue and he was stopped and he was injured. So
the lawsuit is about these two groups and anti Semitism,
that it was spurred by anti Semitism, which by the way,
then became then it becomes a hate crime. Now here's
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what the two groups are saying. This has nothing to
do with you being Jewish, mister plaintiff. This has to
do with Zionism, and we are simply demonstrating against the
state of Israel. We're not anti Semitic, We're just anti Israel,
which by the way is generally a croc but that's
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besides the point because it's usually conflated anyway. But this
is a legal issue and it has to be very specific.
And so the argument is, oh, no, you're a bunch
of anti Semites. That's all, is what the two what
these groups are. And they're saying no, no, And here's
our proof. Because there was a real estate agent a
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real estate event at the synagogue, and there was an
advertisement for that event in the Jewish journal and said
that there would be an event, a seminar on quote
housing projects in all the best Anglo neighborhoods in Israel.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We're gonna show you where.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You can move to Israel and get into great neighborhoods.
They're saying, where's the anti Semitism? Where are we anti
Semitic when we're just demonstrating against Israel. Also, it included
religious education and opportunities for members of the la Jewish
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community to make aliah alia is the ability for any
Jew in the world to go to Israel and become
a citizen of Israel walking in the door. Keep in mind,
Israel was created out of the ashes of the Holocaust,
and for over three thousand years Jews never had a country.
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There was the diaspora, where Jews are all over the world.
Twice in the history of Israel has there been a
Jewish state, once when King David, the Kingdom of King
David existed and twy and the second time it was
created on April fifteenth, nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And so one of the concepts of the modern state
of Israel was any Jew anywhere in the world can
come to this country and you are a citizen of
this country if you intend.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
On living here, and then there are all kinds of rules, etc.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And so what these pro Palestinian groups are saying, That's
what we were demonstrating against, not anti Semitism. Moving to Israel,
going in, by the way, a lot of these settlements
are in the West Bank contested territory, so there is
a lot to be said.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Now, I am obviously pro Israel. That's not an issue.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know where I stand. I've had family in Israel.
I've gone there.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Half a dozen times. I'm Jewish, I mean you all
and down in line. I am in favor of Israel.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
However, anti Semitism is not necessarily or anti Zionism is
not necessarily anti Semitism usually. I mean the two are
in many cases inseparable, but not here legally. I think
that lawsuit is going no place, absolutely no place. All right,
let's go ahead and take some phone calls.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Hello, Gil, welcome, Hi Bill, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
La, I got on Bill. I recently had I had
a trust made up a number of years ago this
law firm, and my wife passed away, and I eventually
got a girlfriend and I put her on my trust.
I have a substantial IRA and a pretty good net worth,
and I put her on there for fifty of my
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IRA account, which is a big number.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
All right, you put the wait second, you put the
girlfriend on for fifty percent of the IRA.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Correct my will? Oh my? Okay? And am on a
trust and then we basically got married. I don't have
any kids, so I raised up to seventy percent. Well,
I went to an attorney. This attorney did the original one,
and I said, go from fifty cent to seventy percent.
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And I also had my nephew as a co executor.
He moved out of state, so I said, I want
to make him not a co executor, but a contingent
executor in case we both die together or something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I just got the bill from him, and I'm shaken
as I look at it. And he built me for
thirteen hours to make these two changes.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, and yeah, that's what lawyers do.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, I know, lawyers did not How long or complicated
is that trust?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And it charged me seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, that's a lot of money. But let me ask
you this, that's long past How long? How complicated and
lengthy is the trust instrument itself?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Very simple. I have a home and the two big
things I have.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I have a Okay, how many I'm just curious how
many pages?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, I haven't gotten anything yet. It's just a bill
to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, Well, how about the original trust you have that
in your hand?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I had to pull the book out, Bill.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, Well, I wish you had had that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But okay, if it's a simple trust and he charged
you seven thousand dollars, that's pricey.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I mean that is that's let me tell you that's pricey.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
However, to make those two changes in a trust that
he wrote, did you say thirteen thousand dollars he billed
you for?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, no, he's got the bills for seven thousand dollars
for these changes.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, Okay, that's crazy. So Gil, it's real easy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
This is Heay, Bill, all I want is from fifty
to seventy and change.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, I understand, no, no, I get it. You don't have
to repeat yourself. I understand what you're doing here. And
so what I'm telling you is that Bill is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's just insane. Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So you tell here's a complicated way of dealing this,
this with this You tell him, no, you say not
a chance, and you go take me to court, argue
that this is worth seven thousand dollars to make these
two changes in a trust that you wrote, and somehow
that's worth seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Explain that one to a judge. That's what you tell him.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I'm just exactly what I'm gonna do, but I
wanted to apply it by you to see.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, no, that's what you do. That's no, that's what
you do.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean, your first thing, your first response is this
is completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It is.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is And by the way, are you telling me
Hold on a minute, let me ask you this. You're
telling me that original that original trust. He spent thirteen
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I don't remember the visual because he was not a
number of years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, got it. Yeah, but he sees out of his mind.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, tell him to go stuff it and
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Let him go in front of a judge. Let him
go in front of a judge and argue that can't
wait for that. This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
am six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Hello Nanette, Oh hello, yes, hello, what can I do
for you.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I was in the apartment, I was in the step
up program, and I was in my apartment for nine years,
and I paid my rent every month, I mean every
month without a sail. All of a sudden last year,
last year March in August, they say they didn't receive
those too much rents. I didn't find out about this
until October last year.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, and did you pay that? By the way, did
you pay the rent for those two months?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yes, yes, I didn't. I have proof that I paid him.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, you have proof, and you have proof you paid
the rent?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yes, okay, and they still evict me anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Now I'm saying, what they evicted you anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, what does that mean they did?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Wait a minute, what does that mean they went to
court and got an eviction order?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Or they asked you to leave and you left? What? What?
What does that mean? They evicted you?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
They took me to court and the judge and their lawyer,
I guess it were been a few times without me.
And next time when I went, they didn't even listen
to my case.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And you so you showed the judge that you had
paid the rent and he ignored that correct, Yes, yes, okay,
And when you said they had taken you to court
several times and you didn't appear or you didn't know.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because I didn't know nothing about it, because okay.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So they didn't serve you.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
No, not do they already been quote a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And then I get it unuppy, all right, So they
evicted you, They got a court order, the judge say
you're out.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You got thrown out. And now what's your question.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Is is it can they do that legally? I was
in the step up obviously not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, No they can't if you have proved you've paid
the rent and the judge throws you out anyway, No,
they cannot evict you under those circumstances. So, Nanette, there's nothing.
There's something more to this story unless you have a
completely corrupt judge.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Clearly is on the take.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He wasn't even the judge. He was like the step
before you get to a judge.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
All right, he was a commissioner, did you well, okay,
sorry that that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. But I
have a problem with you were able to prove you
paid the rent and the.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Judge ignored that. Yes, don't know what to do. Don't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You can go to the presiding judge, write a letter
and say here's what happened, and I see what you
can do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't even know if you went Number one.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Can't appeal it because I think an eviction is a
summary proceeding.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I don't know if that's appealable or not. But
I don't know what tell you. And atte, when you
have the court not believing a proof, what do you
do with that?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I've never seen it ever, And I've been a lawyer
for a lot of years and I have simply never
seen it. Jason, Hello, Jason, welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Handle Yeah, me too, it longtime listener. I know you're
a busney man, so I'm trying to I'll try to
make this story quickly.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I'm doing with me being busy. It's a question
to me being bored. But thank you for saying you
were going to make it quick.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
Yeah for sure. Yeah. Well, this is a little bit
of a long winded story, but it's nonetheless quite like intriguing.
So I am a recent college graduate and a year
ago I was going to a career for I didn't
want to pay for parking, unfortunately, and so I part
in a liquor store parking lot. Unfortunately, when I came back,
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my car wasn't there. And so my first logical line
of thinking was it got towed. And after a few
phone calls with the police and the tow company in
the area, as well as the owner of the lot,
they told me it hadn't been towed by them. So
I called the police and filed the vehicles stolen. So
nine months later, the police find the vehicle in a
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tow yard under a tow company and it turns out
the vehicle was never stolen at all. It was towed
and I was never notified for okay.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And there isn't hold on a man. There wasn't a
sign in the parking lot that said this is for
customers only. Vehicles will be towed away at your expense.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Here's the phone number to call.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, so I called that number. It said they would
tow overnight. I was only there for three hours, and
it was told that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
But you called that number, and did they tell you
do they have the car?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
They told me they did not have my vehicle.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Okay, so and then you find out they did have
your vehicle.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
No, it turns out a different tow company.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, and so there was no number to call. All right,
so a different toe company came in and then they
let you know. And this is nine months later.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Nine months later than okay, told me my vehicle was
at that towyard and all right?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So all right, got it. So what's your question?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
So my question is, do I have a potential like
lawsuit online?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah? Well yeah, well actually they have a potential lawsuit
against you because they're going to argue we towed it
and we have the car. How much money do they want?
By the way, is the towyard saying they want a
pile of money?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
No?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
No, no, So I the police were able to take
that vehicle out of the towyard and I was able
to pick up the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And it's okay, So who do you want to who
do you want to sue?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I want to sue that company that had my car
for nine months?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay? Did you all have to buy another car? No?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I got the vehicle back.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Nine months later. What did you do for nine months?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
I was unemployed?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Uh? Okay, what did you do for nine months? For
a vehicle.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I used my mom's vehicle.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, so you had a car to use, so you
really weren't out you know all of that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You didn't buy another car, you didn't rent another car,
so your damages are fairly limited at this.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Point because you had a car.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
True.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, so yeah, you could theoretically say the value of
my car I want.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, here's your car. Okay, I didn't have a car
for nine months. Look what you did to me. Well,
I did have a car for nine months. I used
my mom's card. So it's a I don't know what
you're going to sue four.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
I guess for like the nine months that I didn't
have a vehicle, but you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Did have a car. The problem is you did have
a car to use. Jason, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And I don't know what it's worth to be forced
to use your mom's car. I don't know what that's
worth you sue. But okay, the defense is, Okay, you're
suing us because you didn't have a.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Car for nine months, but you were driving your mom's
car for nine months.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
See, that's the problem is you got to show damages.
And now, if you didn't have a car, if you
had to buy another car if you take the bus
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This is handle on the Law.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty, Oscar, Hello, Oscar?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Are you there? Yes? I am, Okay. What can I
do for you?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Oll?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
First thing is I listened to your show every morning
and Donald Trump is seventy eight years old, not seventy
seven that you keep saying okay, and none of your
crew will correct you. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, because we don't care, all right, So moving on,
what can I do for you? Oscar? Legally?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
The problem I have is I had a judgment against
me from my HOA when my home got four clothes
twenty ten and it was an abstential and the HOA
got a judgment which I ignored, and everything sort of went
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away until about twenty sixteen or so. My bank account
disappeared also, and I was told Mar's got it for
part of that judgment. Now I've been looking for trying
to find information on the judgment to see if it
still exists, and I can't find it. I use truths finder.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I use Yeah, Well it's there someplace, Oscar. If there
is a judgment against you and money was taking taken
out of your bank account.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Which by the way, is legitimate.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They do that with judgments and it doesn't exist, that's
a problem. So it has to be someplace it is,
it has been filed.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You can go to the court. The truth flayer. I've
never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But what I would do is the county I do it.
Here's what I would do, all right, is you pull
up just the county in which the judgment has been rendered.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You put your name, you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
H o a name, put the word judgment, you put
basically about the time, and you should be able to
pull that up.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And you're saying you've tried that and it doesn't work.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Right if we went to the La County court.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Wow, I have you know what you got me on
that one?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Because if there's a judgment and the judgment doesn't exist
in any record any place, what do I do?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I can't make it up? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
So I've got you called found on truth find I
E who found all the information about you know, the
sale of the of the house, the but not.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But you don't, but you don't have the judgment. The
judgment is not there.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It's what you're.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Saying, My credit doesn't show the judgment.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, then you know, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Then there's a real interesting issue, and that is how
did the HOA get your bank account without a judgment?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah? That gets interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, And you're saying this was twenty sixteen, so it
was eight years ago, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Why'd you wait eight years?
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Oh no, no, no, I keep checking ever since then and
using a different back account.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, no, I understand that that's easy. But how much
money was taking out of your account initially?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Oh, that's a couple of hundred bugs.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Then I wouldn't worry about it. Then I wouldn't worry
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I just I just just suck up two hundred dollars.
So you know, it's not it's not worth it. It
really isn't.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Peter, Hello, Peter.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Quick question.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
So we've September the eighth of twenty three, we got
a letter from our homeowners Assurance saying that they're going
to cancel us on December the eighth of twenty three
because we have a tart on the roof. So I
called her agent. I said, look, there's no tart. We
had a tuper at one point due to the storm.
So we had in twenty twenty two or twenty three,
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we had a leak in the roof and it was
all fixed. We have a brand roof. I said, you know,
what do I do? And he said, oh, I want
to worry about it. I called it again, just to confirm.
I spoke with another agent. I said, look, I'm responding
to this letter. I'm gonna worry. Oh, don't worry about it.
If the tarp is no longer in the roof, you're fine.
December the ninth, I called. Then I got I get
(22:17):
a letter, and I also called the umber the ninth
uh and our homeowners got canceled. Yeah, we were paying
ninety one dollars a month. We've had it for forty
five years. Our homeowners insurance from ninety one dollars a
month to six hundred and sixty one dollars a month.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
Do I have a claim, And do I have a
claim not against our homeowners insurance but against the agent's
office for what?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:42):
Well, I was deceived first of all by him.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So, okay, you were deceived, you said, don't worry about it. Well,
how about this, go ahead and worry about it. They're
going to cancel you anyway, Peter, what are your damages?
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Well, I mean, you know, well I previously went out
from Yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
But what did I understand because my premiums doubled?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Yep, yep?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What are your damages? What? Peter?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't know what your damages are for several reasons. First,
that's what they that's what they do now. They put
up drones and if someone has a tarp, they go,
you're done because of the roof leaks and we're gonna
have to pay money to repair the roofs. And we're
not interested. Tarps means we cancel. How about this, No tarps,
(23:28):
we cancel because works is not interested in ensuring your
home anymore in your area.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That happened to me. So what are your damages?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The insurance company does what it does. The fact that
you were not to worry about it. Okay, So the
guy misled you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But he should have said, is worry about it? Now?
Speaker 9 (23:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I understand that, all right? So he miss So he
misled you. They were gonna do what they were gonna do. Anyway, Peter.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yep, yep, Okay, you cannot.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Say because you told me not to worry about.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It, therefore you should pay my additional insurance costs.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Well, not me for my elderly momig.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. Nobody cares. Nobody cares
about your elderly mom. It has to do with they
don't want to share the house anymore. They're done.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And by the way, they have a right to do that.
It's a business arrangement between you and them. You know,
if you and I have business range for forty five
years ago, you know what, I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Want to do it anymore. I'm done. Yep. Oh no,
you can't do that. Bill.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
What a good lesson.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah no, it's not even a lesson, Peter. It's not
even a lesson. It's what they do. It's not like
you learned anything from it. There's nothing to learn.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
There are three companies in California that do homeowners that
bailed out of the state. I was covered by one
of them, and I had to find another insurance company
and I was canceled and I went bare for two
and a half weeks. Let me tell you how I
didn't sleep two and a half weeks I had no
homeowners insurance and I finally got a policy for twice
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as much the fact that my agent says, don't worry
about it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Okay, so what.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That has nothing to do with the fact the insurance
company canceled that they can cancel that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They use drones.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That if you have a tarp up there for thirty
seconds and the drone takes a picture of it, Oh,
we're done because you have a because you have a tarp,
they're allowed to do that. So you're screwed, you know,
as we all are. And there's your elderly mon. And
if she's elderly enough, she's gonna not even notice the leaks.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know, this is gonna drip on her head and
she doesn't even know that it is there. This is
Handle on the Law.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
You're listening to Bill Handle on Demand from KFI AM
six forty John.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hello, John, Hello, Yes, how are you? I'm fine? What
can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
I was asking a good question of what.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You're cutting out? John?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Let's try that again. You may want to move to
a different area. You're cutting out.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Let's try that again. Yeah, can hear me? Well? Hopefully
I mean, I can hear you, and now we'll see
if you're cutting.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Out or not.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Let me move back to where it was.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
How are you well? Back where you were was not
particularly good? All right, let's try it. Okay, Nope, nope, nope, nope,
not working, not working. Uh, I am going to.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Two seconds, two seconds, nope, nope, nope nope.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're gonna have to go someplace else.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And you had a pretty good question. But what can
I do? Lauren? Hello, Lauren? What can I do for you?
I have a common block wall with a neighbor.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
He had a tree that was growing for years late
next without. Yeah, I hope this is a good story
because I get so bored with I got a wall
in my neighbor with a tree.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, so the tree is now tearing up the wall
right right? Okay, I know exactly what you're one. I
got it. You don't even have to go there. I've
heard these.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's probably the number one question I've heard over the years. Wall, tree, neighbor,
et cetera. Do you know what side of the property
line the tree the wall is.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
In or on? I saw the line I think right
down the middle right, yes, Okay, do you know that
for a fact.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, I know it should be.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't care about it should be. I don't care
if it should be. Is a different thing? Do you
know if it is or isn't.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, Okay, so let's say it is, all right, because
he doesn't know either.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
All right. So his tree is destroying your wall, right right? Okay,
what's your question.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
The liability to see? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I would think so, yeah, because it's a common wall,
and I would say, you pay for the whole damn thing.
It's your tree. This is destroying the wall, or at
least you pay for my half. And then you split
the wall right down in the middle of what kind
of wall?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Is it a block wall? Block wall?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, so he can split the wall right down the
middle and he's responsible for any part of your wall,
which of course means he's responsible for the whole wall.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Now, usually when that happens, I wouldn't even split it
fifty to fifty with him.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I would just say, hey, it's your tree, you're ruining it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And if he says no, I take him a small
claims court and see what a judge.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Has to say. Okay, we're done with all of those calls.
How many of these do I get? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I thought there was a story there and I I didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Uh yeah, we go.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, Matthew, let's start with you on this one. What
can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Matthew?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey Bill, So I'm calling about employer that just fired me.
I got two issues, when related to time clock stuff
and when related to the fire itself. We'll start with
the time clock stuff. I was asked to begin, uh,
clocking out while working.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hold on clocking out and they still had you work. Yeah,
and you weren't paid for they and you weren't paid
for that.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yes, correct. Now, there was this thing that we were
we were kind of allowed to do where we would extend,
we would clock out late because we would clock out
on a cell phone in order to get that back.
But you know, I think the law is about not
overworking an employee.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So the glow is you get paid for work. It's
not that complicated.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
So I mean, yeah, it's just that, you know, I
had to work through the lunch that I was clocked
out for and then later on.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, that's illegal. Okay, they're in violation of labor laws
right there. You got a violation from your company. Okay,
number one, we got that out of the way. Yep,
there's illegal there in violation number two.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Okay. And then so on the day I got fired,
I got fired for a violation, a violation of policy
that you know i'd agree to follow when I got hired.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And okay, what was the policy.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
If you don't report a vehicular collision even if there's.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, and you violated that and you violated the policy.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, they didn't really tell me. They didn't really tell
me anything about it. The damage that was done.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know if they have to, but okay, So
what's your question, Matthew.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Well, so on that particular date, it was one of
those days where I had to I had to play
with the time card to make my lunches work for
the company. All right, So what's your question, Matthew, Well, well,
do I have a case where there's no pressure to perform?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, No, you have a case for. Here's what you
have a case for. You have a case.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
For the work that you were not paid for. That's it.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
As far as being fire some kind of discriminary, discriminatory firing, No,
they can fire you for any damn reason.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Matter of fact, you violated a policy. You didn't report
an accident.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'd fire you for that, especially if you had agreed
to that years earlier. So that one is off the table.
The only thing you have, The only thing you have
is I didn't get paid for the work that I did.
Give me some money, thank you.
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Speaker 2 (32:49):
This is Handle on the Law. You've been listening to
the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Catch my show Monday through Friday, six am to nine am,
and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app
You're listenings KFI AM six forty. The bill handles show
on demand on the iheartradiop Now, of course you've been
hearing and dealing with if you've been there with these
demonstrations against Israel going on throughout the country, and a
lot of them here in southern California.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
One of the big ones was at.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
UCLA, and so lawsuits have been filed and they're on
either side these demonstrations, primarily anti Israel pro Palestinian demonstrations,
with some anti Palestinians pro Israel demonstrations to a lesser
degree in fewer people, and some of them have gotten
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pretty vicious, one particularly at UCLA, and so a local
Jewish man has filed a lawsuit against two groups that
led demonstration demonstrations a kraus or outside of LA Synagogue
that ended up in violence, and it was all kinds
of national condemnation against the demonstrator, including President Biden and
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LA Mayor Karen Boss. The lawsuit was filed against Code Pink,
it's a feminist anti war organization, and at the same
time against the Palestinian Youth Movements, a grassroots group that
oppose Zionism and are calling for a ceasefire in Gaza
like right now. Now, people were injured at that demonstration.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So here is a local Jewish man.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And he said he was trying to walk into a
synagogue and he was stopped and he was injured. So
the lawsuit is about these two groups and anti Semitism,
that it was spurred by anti Semitism, which by the way,
then became then it becomes a hate crime. Now here's
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what the two groups are saying. This has nothing to
do with you being Jewish, mister plaintiff. This has to
do with Zionism, and we are simply demonstrating against the
state of Israel. We're not anti Semitic, We're just anti Israel,
which by the way is generally a croc but that's
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besides the point because it's usually conflated anyway. But this
is a legal issue and it has to be very specific.
And so the argument is, oh, no, you're a bunch
of anti Semites. That's all, is what the two what
these groups are. And they're saying no, no, And here's
our proof. Because there was a real estate agent a
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real estate event at the synagogue, and there was an
advertisement for that event in the Jewish journal and said
that there would be an event, a seminar on quote
housing projects in all the best Anglo neighborhoods in Israel.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
We're gonna show you where.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You can move to Israel and get into great neighborhoods.
They're saying, where's the anti Semitism? Where are we anti
Semitic when we're just demonstrating against Israel. Also, it included
religious education and opportunities for members of the la Jewish
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community to make aliah alia is the ability for any
Jew in the world to go to Israel and become
a citizen of Israel walking in the door. Keep in mind,
Israel was created out of the ashes of the Holocaust,
and for over three thousand years Jews never had a country.
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There was the diaspora, where Jews are all over the world.
Twice in the history of Israel has there been a
Jewish state, once when King David, the Kingdom of King
David existed and twy and the second time it was
created on April fifteenth, nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And so one of the concepts of the modern state
of Israel was any Jew anywhere in the world can
come to this country and you are a citizen of
this country if you intend.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
On living here, and then there are all kinds of rules, etc.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And so what these pro Palestinian groups are saying, That's
what we were demonstrating against, not anti Semitism. Moving to Israel,
going in, by the way, a lot of these settlements
are in the West Bank contested territory, so there is
a lot to be said.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Now, I am obviously pro Israel. That's not an issue.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You know where I stand. I've had family in Israel.
I've gone there.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Half a dozen times. I'm Jewish, I mean you all
and down in line. I am in favor of Israel.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
However, anti Semitism is not necessarily or anti Zionism is
not necessarily anti Semitism usually. I mean the two are
in many cases inseparable, but not here legally. I think
that lawsuit is going no place, absolutely no place. All right,
let's go ahead and take some phone calls.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Hello, Gil, welcome, Hi Bill, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
La, I got on Bill. I recently had I had
a trust made up a number of years ago this
law firm, and my wife passed away, and I eventually
got a girlfriend and I put her on my trust.
I have a substantial IRA and a pretty good net worth,
and I put her on there for fifty of my
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IRA account, which is a big number.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
All right, you put the wait second, you put the
girlfriend on for fifty percent of the IRA.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Correct my will? Oh my? Okay? And am on a
trust and then we basically got married. I don't have
any kids, so I raised up to seventy percent. Well,
I went to an attorney. This attorney did the original one,
and I said, go from fifty cent to seventy percent.
(06:14):
And I also had my nephew as a co executor.
He moved out of state, so I said, I want
to make him not a co executor, but a contingent
executor in case we both die together or something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I just got the bill from him, and I'm shaken
as I look at it. And he built me for
thirteen hours to make these two changes.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, and yeah, that's what lawyers do.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, I know, lawyers did not How long or complicated
is that trust?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And it charged me seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, that's a lot of money. But let me ask
you this, that's long past How long? How complicated and
lengthy is the trust instrument itself?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Very simple. I have a home and the two big
things I have.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I have a Okay, how many I'm just curious how
many pages?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, I haven't gotten anything yet. It's just a bill
to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, Well, how about the original trust you have that
in your hand?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I had to pull the book out, Bill.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Okay, Well, I wish you had had that.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But okay, if it's a simple trust and he charged
you seven thousand dollars, that's pricey.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I mean that is that's let me tell you that's pricey.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
However, to make those two changes in a trust that
he wrote, did you say thirteen thousand dollars he billed
you for?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, no, he's got the bills for seven thousand dollars
for these changes.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, Okay, that's crazy. So Gil, it's real easy.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
This is Heay, Bill, all I want is from fifty
to seventy and change.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, I understand, no, no, I get it. You don't have
to repeat yourself. I understand what you're doing here. And
so what I'm telling you is that Bill is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's just insane. Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
So you tell here's a complicated way of dealing this,
this with this You tell him, no, you say not
a chance, and you go take me to court, argue
that this is worth seven thousand dollars to make these
two changes in a trust that you wrote, and somehow
that's worth seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Explain that one to a judge. That's what you tell him.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I'm just exactly what I'm gonna do, but I
wanted to apply it by you to see.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, no, that's what you do. That's no, that's what
you do.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean, your first thing, your first response is this
is completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It is.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is And by the way, are you telling me
Hold on a minute, let me ask you this. You're
telling me that original that original trust. He spent thirteen
thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I don't remember the visual because he was not a
number of years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, got it. Yeah, but he sees out of his mind.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, tell him to go stuff it and
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Let him go in front of a judge. Let him
go in front of a judge and argue that can't
wait for that. This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
am six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Hello Nanette, Oh hello, yes, hello, what can I do
for you.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I was in the apartment, I was in the step
up program, and I was in my apartment for nine years,
and I paid my rent every month, I mean every
month without a sail. All of a sudden last year,
last year March in August, they say they didn't receive
those too much rents. I didn't find out about this
until October last year.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay, and did you pay that? By the way, did
you pay the rent for those two months?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yes, yes, I didn't. I have proof that I paid him.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, you have proof, and you have proof you paid
the rent?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yes, okay, and they still evict me anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Now I'm saying, what they evicted you anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Okay, what does that mean they did?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Wait a minute, what does that mean they went to
court and got an eviction order?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Or they asked you to leave and you left? What? What?
What does that mean? They evicted you?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
They took me to court and the judge and their lawyer,
I guess it were been a few times without me.
And next time when I went, they didn't even listen
to my case.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And you so you showed the judge that you had
paid the rent and he ignored that correct, Yes, yes, okay,
And when you said they had taken you to court
several times and you didn't appear or you didn't know.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Because I didn't know nothing about it, because okay.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So they didn't serve you.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
No, not do they already been quote a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And then I get it unuppy, all right, So they
evicted you, They got a court order, the judge say
you're out.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You got thrown out. And now what's your question.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Is is it can they do that legally? I was
in the step up obviously not.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
No, No they can't if you have proved you've paid
the rent and the judge throws you out anyway, No,
they cannot evict you under those circumstances. So, Nanette, there's nothing.
There's something more to this story unless you have a
completely corrupt judge.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Clearly is on the take.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
He wasn't even the judge. He was like the step
before you get to a judge.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
All right, he was a commissioner, did you well, okay,
sorry that that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. But I
have a problem with you were able to prove you
paid the rent and the.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Judge ignored that. Yes, don't know what to do. Don't
know what to do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You can go to the presiding judge, write a letter
and say here's what happened, and I see what you
can do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't even know if you went Number one.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Can't appeal it because I think an eviction is a
summary proceeding.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I don't know if that's appealable or not. But
I don't know what tell you. And atte, when you
have the court not believing a proof, what do you
do with that?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I've never seen it ever, And I've been a lawyer
for a lot of years and I have simply never
seen it. Jason, Hello, Jason, welcome.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Handle Yeah, me too, it longtime listener. I know you're
a busney man, so I'm trying to I'll try to
make this story quickly.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I'm doing with me being busy. It's a question
to me being bored. But thank you for saying you
were going to make it quick.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
Yeah for sure. Yeah. Well, this is a little bit
of a long winded story, but it's nonetheless quite like intriguing.
So I am a recent college graduate and a year
ago I was going to a career for I didn't
want to pay for parking, unfortunately, and so I part
in a liquor store parking lot. Unfortunately, when I came back,
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my car wasn't there. And so my first logical line
of thinking was it got towed. And after a few
phone calls with the police and the tow company in
the area, as well as the owner of the lot,
they told me it hadn't been towed by them. So
I called the police and filed the vehicles stolen. So
nine months later, the police find the vehicle in a
(13:26):
tow yard under a tow company and it turns out
the vehicle was never stolen at all. It was towed
and I was never notified for okay.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And there isn't hold on a man. There wasn't a
sign in the parking lot that said this is for
customers only. Vehicles will be towed away at your expense.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Here's the phone number to call.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
Yeah, so I called that number. It said they would
tow overnight. I was only there for three hours, and
it was told that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
But you called that number, and did they tell you
do they have the car?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
They told me they did not have my vehicle.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Okay, so and then you find out they did have
your vehicle.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
No, it turns out a different tow company.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Okay, and so there was no number to call. All right,
so a different toe company came in and then they
let you know. And this is nine months later.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Nine months later than okay, told me my vehicle was
at that towyard and all right?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So all right, got it. So what's your question?
Speaker 7 (14:26):
So my question is, do I have a potential like
lawsuit online?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah? Well yeah, well actually they have a potential lawsuit
against you because they're going to argue we towed it
and we have the car. How much money do they want?
By the way, is the towyard saying they want a
pile of money?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
No?
Speaker 7 (14:44):
No, no, So I the police were able to take
that vehicle out of the towyard and I was able
to pick up the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And it's okay, So who do you want to who
do you want to sue?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I want to sue that company that had my car
for nine months?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay? Did you all have to buy another car? No?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I got the vehicle back.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Nine months later. What did you do for nine months?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
I was unemployed?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Uh? Okay, what did you do for nine months? For
a vehicle.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I used my mom's vehicle.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Okay, so you had a car to use, so you
really weren't out you know all of that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
You didn't buy another car, you didn't rent another car,
so your damages are fairly limited at this.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Point because you had a car.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
True.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, so yeah, you could theoretically say the value of
my car I want.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, here's your car. Okay, I didn't have a car
for nine months. Look what you did to me. Well,
I did have a car for nine months. I used
my mom's card. So it's a I don't know what
you're going to sue four.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
I guess for like the nine months that I didn't
have a vehicle, but you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Did have a car. The problem is you did have
a car to use. Jason, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And I don't know what it's worth to be forced
to use your mom's car. I don't know what that's
worth you sue. But okay, the defense is, Okay, you're
suing us because you didn't have a.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Car for nine months, but you were driving your mom's
car for nine months.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
See, that's the problem is you got to show damages.
And now, if you didn't have a car, if you
had to buy another car if you take the bus
that the argument is legitimate. Couldn't find a job. Even
then they're gonna argue, all right, let me talk about
your business, and I don't care what business you're in.
Technology is an absolute part of it. There's no way
(16:37):
to do business without technology. And so this is where
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This is handle on the Law.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty, Oscar, Hello, Oscar?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Are you there? Yes? I am, Okay. What can I
do for you?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Oll?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
First thing is I listened to your show every morning
and Donald Trump is seventy eight years old, not seventy
seven that you keep saying okay, and none of your
crew will correct you. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, because we don't care, all right, So moving on,
what can I do for you? Oscar? Legally?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (18:29):
The problem I have is I had a judgment against
me from my HOA when my home got four clothes
twenty ten and it was an abstential and the HOA
got a judgment which I ignored, and everything sort of went
(18:51):
away until about twenty sixteen or so. My bank account
disappeared also, and I was told Mar's got it for
part of that judgment. Now I've been looking for trying
to find information on the judgment to see if it
still exists, and I can't find it. I use truths finder.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I use Yeah, Well it's there someplace, Oscar. If there
is a judgment against you and money was taking taken
out of your bank account.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Which by the way, is legitimate.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They do that with judgments and it doesn't exist, that's
a problem. So it has to be someplace it is,
it has been filed.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You can go to the court. The truth flayer. I've
never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But what I would do is the county I do it.
Here's what I would do, all right, is you pull
up just the county in which the judgment has been rendered.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
You put your name, you.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
H o a name, put the word judgment, you put
basically about the time, and you should be able to
pull that up.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And you're saying you've tried that and it doesn't work.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Right if we went to the La County court.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Wow, I have you know what you got me on
that one?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Because if there's a judgment and the judgment doesn't exist
in any record any place, what do I do?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I can't make it up? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
So I've got you called found on truth find I
E who found all the information about you know, the
sale of the of the house, the but not.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But you don't, but you don't have the judgment. The
judgment is not there.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It's what you're.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Saying, My credit doesn't show the judgment.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
All right, then you know, all right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Then there's a real interesting issue, and that is how
did the HOA get your bank account without a judgment?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah? That gets interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Okay, And you're saying this was twenty sixteen, so it
was eight years ago, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Why'd you wait eight years?
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Oh no, no, no, I keep checking ever since then and
using a different back account.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, no, I understand that that's easy. But how much
money was taking out of your account initially?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Oh, that's a couple of hundred bugs.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Then I wouldn't worry about it. Then I wouldn't worry
about it.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, I just I just just suck up two hundred dollars.
So you know, it's not it's not worth it. It
really isn't.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Peter, Hello, Peter.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Quick question.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
So we've September the eighth of twenty three, we got
a letter from our homeowners Assurance saying that they're going
to cancel us on December the eighth of twenty three
because we have a tart on the roof. So I
called her agent. I said, look, there's no tart. We
had a tuper at one point due to the storm.
So we had in twenty twenty two or twenty three,
(21:57):
we had a leak in the roof and it was
all fixed. We have a brand roof. I said, you know,
what do I do? And he said, oh, I want
to worry about it. I called it again, just to confirm.
I spoke with another agent. I said, look, I'm responding
to this letter. I'm gonna worry. Oh, don't worry about it.
If the tarp is no longer in the roof, you're fine.
December the ninth, I called. Then I got I get
(22:17):
a letter, and I also called the umber the ninth
uh and our homeowners got canceled. Yeah, we were paying
ninety one dollars a month. We've had it for forty
five years. Our homeowners insurance from ninety one dollars a
month to six hundred and sixty one dollars a month.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
Do I have a claim, And do I have a
claim not against our homeowners insurance but against the agent's
office for what?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:42):
Well, I was deceived first of all by him.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So, okay, you were deceived, you said, don't worry about it. Well,
how about this, go ahead and worry about it. They're
going to cancel you anyway, Peter, what are your damages?
Speaker 9 (22:55):
Well, I mean, you know, well I previously went out
from Yeah, I understand that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
But what did I understand because my premiums doubled?
Speaker 9 (23:04):
Yep, yep?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
What are your damages? What? Peter?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't know what your damages are for several reasons. First,
that's what they that's what they do now. They put
up drones and if someone has a tarp, they go,
you're done because of the roof leaks and we're gonna
have to pay money to repair the roofs. And we're
not interested. Tarps means we cancel. How about this, No tarps,
(23:28):
we cancel because works is not interested in ensuring your
home anymore in your area.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That happened to me. So what are your damages?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The insurance company does what it does. The fact that
you were not to worry about it. Okay, So the
guy misled you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But he should have said, is worry about it? Now?
Speaker 9 (23:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I understand that, all right? So he miss So he
misled you. They were gonna do what they were gonna do. Anyway, Peter.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yep, yep, Okay, you cannot.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Say because you told me not to worry about.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It, therefore you should pay my additional insurance costs.
Speaker 9 (24:06):
Well, not me for my elderly momig.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. Nobody cares. Nobody cares
about your elderly mom. It has to do with they
don't want to share the house anymore. They're done.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And by the way, they have a right to do that.
It's a business arrangement between you and them. You know,
if you and I have business range for forty five
years ago, you know what, I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Want to do it anymore. I'm done. Yep. Oh no,
you can't do that. Bill.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
What a good lesson.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah no, it's not even a lesson, Peter. It's not
even a lesson. It's what they do. It's not like
you learned anything from it. There's nothing to learn.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
There are three companies in California that do homeowners that
bailed out of the state. I was covered by one
of them, and I had to find another insurance company
and I was canceled and I went bare for two
and a half weeks. Let me tell you how I
didn't sleep two and a half weeks I had no
homeowners insurance and I finally got a policy for twice
(25:03):
as much the fact that my agent says, don't worry
about it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Okay, so what.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
That has nothing to do with the fact the insurance
company canceled that they can cancel that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
They use drones.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That if you have a tarp up there for thirty
seconds and the drone takes a picture of it, Oh,
we're done because you have a because you have a tarp,
they're allowed to do that. So you're screwed, you know,
as we all are. And there's your elderly mon. And
if she's elderly enough, she's gonna not even notice the leaks.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You know, this is gonna drip on her head and
she doesn't even know that it is there. This is
Handle on the Law.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
You're listening to Bill Handle on Demand from KFI AM
six forty John.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Hello, John, Hello, Yes, how are you? I'm fine? What
can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
I was asking a good question of what.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You're cutting out? John?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Let's try that again. You may want to move to
a different area. You're cutting out.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Let's try that again. Yeah, can hear me? Well? Hopefully
I mean, I can hear you, and now we'll see
if you're cutting.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Out or not.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
Let me move back to where it was.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
How are you well? Back where you were was not
particularly good? All right, let's try it. Okay, Nope, nope, nope, nope,
not working, not working. Uh, I am going to.
Speaker 9 (26:36):
Two seconds, two seconds, nope, nope, nope nope.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You're gonna have to go someplace else.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And you had a pretty good question. But what can
I do? Lauren? Hello, Lauren? What can I do for you?
I have a common block wall with a neighbor.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
He had a tree that was growing for years late
next without. Yeah, I hope this is a good story
because I get so bored with I got a wall
in my neighbor with a tree.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, so the tree is now tearing up the wall
right right? Okay, I know exactly what you're one. I
got it. You don't even have to go there. I've
heard these.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's probably the number one question I've heard over the years. Wall, tree, neighbor,
et cetera. Do you know what side of the property
line the tree the wall is.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
In or on? I saw the line I think right
down the middle right, yes, Okay, do you know that
for a fact.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, I know it should be.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't care about it should be. I don't care
if it should be. Is a different thing? Do you
know if it is or isn't.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, Okay, so let's say it is, all right, because
he doesn't know either.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
All right. So his tree is destroying your wall, right right? Okay,
what's your question.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
The liability to see? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, I would think so, yeah, because it's a common wall,
and I would say, you pay for the whole damn thing.
It's your tree. This is destroying the wall, or at
least you pay for my half. And then you split
the wall right down in the middle of what kind
of wall?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Is it a block wall? Block wall?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Okay, so he can split the wall right down the
middle and he's responsible for any part of your wall,
which of course means he's responsible for the whole wall.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Now, usually when that happens, I wouldn't even split it
fifty to fifty with him.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I would just say, hey, it's your tree, you're ruining it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And if he says no, I take him a small
claims court and see what a judge.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Has to say. Okay, we're done with all of those calls.
How many of these do I get? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I thought there was a story there and I I didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Uh yeah, we go.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, Matthew, let's start with you on this one. What
can I do for you?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Matthew?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey Bill, So I'm calling about employer that just fired me.
I got two issues, when related to time clock stuff
and when related to the fire itself. We'll start with
the time clock stuff. I was asked to begin, uh,
clocking out while working.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hold on clocking out and they still had you work. Yeah,
and you weren't paid for they and you weren't paid
for that.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Yes, correct. Now, there was this thing that we were
we were kind of allowed to do where we would extend,
we would clock out late because we would clock out
on a cell phone in order to get that back.
But you know, I think the law is about not
overworking an employee.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So the glow is you get paid for work. It's
not that complicated.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
So I mean, yeah, it's just that, you know, I
had to work through the lunch that I was clocked
out for and then later on.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Okay, that's illegal. Okay, they're in violation of labor laws
right there. You got a violation from your company. Okay,
number one, we got that out of the way. Yep,
there's illegal there in violation number two.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Okay. And then so on the day I got fired,
I got fired for a violation, a violation of policy
that you know i'd agree to follow when I got hired.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And okay, what was the policy.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
If you don't report a vehicular collision even if there's.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay, and you violated that and you violated the policy.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Yeah, they didn't really tell me. They didn't really tell
me anything about it. The damage that was done.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know if they have to, but okay, So
what's your question, Matthew.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Well, so on that particular date, it was one of
those days where I had to I had to play
with the time card to make my lunches work for
the company. All right, So what's your question, Matthew, Well, well,
do I have a case where there's no pressure to perform?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, No, you have a case for. Here's what you
have a case for. You have a case.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
For the work that you were not paid for. That's it.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
As far as being fire some kind of discriminary, discriminatory firing, No,
they can fire you for any damn reason.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Matter of fact, you violated a policy. You didn't report
an accident.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'd fire you for that, especially if you had agreed
to that years earlier. So that one is off the table.
The only thing you have, The only thing you have
is I didn't get paid for the work that I did.
Give me some money, thank you.
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