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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty. The bill handles
show on demand on the iheartradiop This is handle on
the law marginal legal advice, where I tell you you
have absolutely no case. All right, let me throw a
question at you. Would you ever think that slavery still

(00:21):
exists in the United States? Slavery? I mean, you go
back to January first, eighteen sixty five, the Thirteenth Amendment
kicked in, which eliminates slavery. Yet here we are looking
at a slavery issue. Well, is it really slavery? A

(00:42):
lot of people think so. And here's what it's about.
There is a proposition in California, proposition of course California
coming up in November, and it has to do with
ending for slabor slavery in California prisons. Prop six would
amend the California Constitution to prohibit the state from punishing

(01:06):
inmates with involuntary work or from disciplining inmates who refused
to work. The supporters Prop six are saying, you know
what they call that forcing someone to work prison or
no prison, punishing someone from for not working, that slavery

(01:27):
where they come from. And you know that's an argument okay,
And going on, this group that is pitching it new
way of life are saying they exploited our labor. These
are people that were previous inmates. They exploited our labor
for eight cents, ten cents, twelve cents, fifty cents an hour,

(01:49):
and we returned to our communities with nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So here is what they're asking. And this one's kind
of new for me because I didn't know this was
going on. The proposition calls for state prisons to set
up volunteer work assignment programs that take the time off
sentences in the form of credits, which I think happen anyway,
but it's not mandatory, and would have the county or
city establish a pay scale for inmates in local jails. Now,

(02:22):
I thought all work programs in the prisons were voluntary,
and prisoners are begging for those work assignments because that
takes them out of their jail cells and they get
a job and they don't make much money. They do
get twelve cents an hour, you know, fifteen cents an hour.
It's token amount of money. But that's also the law

(02:46):
allows prisoners who volunteer to work to get paid virtually nothing.
And here's what's unclear about this and doesn't talk about
this is the state required to pay minimum wage to
inmates in California's clarentally eighteen dollars an hour all of
a sudden. First of all, no one's going to be

(03:08):
forced to work at eighteen bucks an hour in prison.
And I mean keep in mind, you get eighteen dollars
an hour and you don't pay room and board and
at all becomes disposable income. So that ain't a bad deal.
But the issue is, and this is going to go
in the courts of course, even if it passes. You
bet that the prison system is going to be filing

(03:30):
law cases like crazy about whether or not this is
slavery and forcing someone to work.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I didn't know there were involuntary work programs, and I
guess there are that I can see undoing and then
saying to a prisoner, if you don't work, we're going
to punish you within the system. I can see that.
So I'm okay with that. I don't have a problem
with that. I just think it's kind of fun that
it's regarded and its side. I'm looking at this as going, yeah,
that makes sense, as slavery. According to cal Matters, about

(04:02):
ninety thousand inmates in the state, and forty thousand of
them have jobs with them earning way less than seventy
four cents an hour. Means that's the top end. Wow,
except those that are firefighters and they're training to be firefighters.

(04:23):
I think they get like a dollar fifty or a
dollar seventy five an hour. Inmates and they get a certification.
I'll tell you why. Other why the inmates also volunteer
to work because they can be certified. You go into
a welding program and you're there for a couple of years.
You work out as a certified trained welder, and that
pays a lot more than eighteen dollars an hour. All right,

(04:46):
let's go ahead and pick up some phone calls. Here, Lenda, Hi, Lenda, welcome,
good morning.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
If you're on a speaker phone, I don't want that. Okay, okay, okay,
here you go, Okay, good morning. How are you?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
What can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I have a question.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I lost my son in law in a car accident.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
He left my granddaughter, five year old. I was My
question is can we get a compensation through the insurance
of the other vehicle.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, well, all right, so he dies and how old
was he when he died? By the way.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Linda's he was twenty two.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh god, that's a tough one. I'm sorry for your
loss on that one. Okay, So your grandchild is five
years old, right, yes, Okay, was the other driver at fault?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's really hard enough for my daughter. But the only
thing that I gave from her is that the police
report is saying that.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
He was at fault, that he or she was at fault.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
My son in law was at fault.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay. That's a tough one. I mean that is a
tough one because if your son in law caused the accident,
why would the other side be responsible for damages in
this case enormous damages. This would be wrongful death. So
that doesn't help. So it's a yeah, I think you

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have a tough one. Now if there's any issue as
to liability, and this is one of those where I
say you have to see a lawyer because I don't
do these cases. And the damages are so insane when
you lose a loved one, in this case, the death
of a person here who has a daughter, who has
a five year old, and I'm assuming you're still married, Linda.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
They weren't married.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
They weren't. No, Okay, well, okay, that it doesn't matter
because it's still a wrongful death action. So go go
to the website, go to handle on the law dot com,
and you'll talk to a personal injury lawyer. I don't
think there's anything there because he was at fault. But
if there is, did this happen in California?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
He was a resident of Nevada.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Doesn't matter. Did it happen in California? No, okay, So Nevada,
I don't know if they have a comparative liability where
let's say he was deemed to be ninety percent at
fault and the award would be a million dollars, but

(07:31):
since he's ninety percent at fault, they take away nine
hundred thousand and there's one hundred thousand dollars left. That's
comparative liability. And I don't know if Nevada has that
or not, but you absolutely want to go to the website,
go to handle on the lot dot com and talk
with one of our personal injury lawyers, because whenever there
are damages to that level, I'm always saying, hey, please
talk to someone to give an opinion. And they're very

(07:53):
good on the website, very good about doing that. Got it.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Thank you for your touch.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Sure, no problem. It's a tough one. That really is.
You got a five year old leaves Lee loses twenty
two year old dad. Oh boy. This is Handle on
the Law.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is Handle on the Law marginal legal advice where
I tell you have no case. And I before I
take a phone call, I want to tell you about
my podcast that I just started a couple of weeks ago,
a few weeks ago, and it is drops every single
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(08:39):
and it's saw all about history and analysis and current
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the House of the Mouse, people dying at Disneyland and
Disney World. That was a fun one, and how people
are buried for some reason. I really like death. But
a lot, you know, the assassination attempt. I mean, just
a lot of stuff going on. The Bill Handle Show podcast,

(09:02):
the Bill Handle Show podcast website, Bill handleshowpodcast dot com. Okay, Felicia. Right,
Do I have that right? Felicia? It was Felice. Okay,
I thought it was Felicia. Okay, Felice. What can I
do for you?

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (09:22):
I was wondering about the limon law.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yep, what about it?

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Well?

Speaker 6 (09:26):
I have a vehicle, a well known vehicle that my
grandson can press the start button and it starts for him.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
So he presses the start and it does. Wait a
sec he presses a start button and it doesn't start,
or it does start. I kind of lost that it
does it does start.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Isn't that what you're supposed to do? Press start and
it starts? What am I missing here?

Speaker 6 (09:52):
You're supposed to be able to hold down the brake
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh, I see, got it? So it starts without your
foot on the brake? Yes, okay, got it? Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
How old is it me?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
I'm sixty three.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
No, boy, you sound so much older. No, how old
is the car?

Speaker 7 (10:13):
The car is four years old, almost five.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, So that puts it. Okay, it's fair enough, and
I'm assuming he has taken it to the dealership to
have it repaired.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Multiple times.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Okay, got it all right? Fair enough? Yeah, I think
he falls under the Lemon law. I think he falls
under the California Lemon law. And what I would do
is contact a Lemon law lawyer. I happen to do
commercials for one's very very good. It's my lemonlaw Lawyer
dot com. It just happens to be one of many.

(10:51):
But you know, these are guys I have vetted that
are pretty good. Actually they're very good. But I think
you fall he definitely falls under.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
The Lemon law.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, so it's.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Mine my Lemon lawyer dot com. Okay, I'm not gonna
say it again. You know this is uh. I love
doing that.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Mark?

Speaker 8 (11:13):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Mark? Hello? What can I do for you?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Hi? How are you?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Uh? Fantastic? What can I do for you?

Speaker 7 (11:21):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (11:21):
I got kicked out of a crappy country club a
while ago and they withheld my one hundred thousand dollars
in equity unless I signed a release releasing them of
all liability. I said no, they withheld my money, and
I said I would sue you for it. They changed
their mind and sent me the money, but they sent
it to the wrong address. Now I'm suing them for

(11:41):
my money and my legal fees and they won't give
me either unless I drop the law due for the
legal teams.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, so you just keep on going. Now, if they
sent you the money, I sent you the wrong address.
Was the money cashed? I mean, did you tell them
that's the wrong address. Here's my address.

Speaker 9 (11:57):
No, I never got the money and I never got
the money. I didn't know they even sent it until
after I sue them.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Okay, So they're now saying, if you you know, if
you drop your lawsuit, well I guess give you your money.
So they're at the same place they were before you
sue them. Okay, they're giving your money, but you're saying, no,
you're not. You sent you the wrong address. Is there
any way to track down where it went? Where did

(12:24):
they send you?

Speaker 9 (12:24):
Yes, a prior address, and it has been tracked.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
So now they owe me my money, and.

Speaker 9 (12:30):
I think they owe me my legal fees.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But it depends. Yeah, it depends. It depends how much
are you into legal fees?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Fifty grand?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Fifty grand to collect one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (12:43):
That's how pissed off I was.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, let me tell you you're never going to get fifty grand.
You file that lawsuit and you win, and then you
are entitled. You have to do a separate motion, by
the way, for legal fees, and do you even prevail
on legal fees? And I don't even know about that.
So they send it in they didn't okay, didn't cash

(13:07):
or whatever. So let's say they're liable. Do you really
think a judge is going to give you fifty thousand
dollars in legal fees? Did you just file a lawsuit?
Did you do depositions? Did you get expert witnesses?

Speaker 9 (13:25):
No, I've just gone back and forwards.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Okay, so you've only filed a lawsuit, so you have
a lawyer that maybe puts, well, I don't know, ten
hours into it. Let's say, sure, yeah, ask a judge
to give you five thousand dollars an hour for a
judge for legal fees. Try that one. You're an idiot
to spend fifty grand. You are an idiot to spend

(13:48):
fifty grand. But then again, you know, what can I
tell you? You know, I'm that pissed off?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
All right?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Fine, I mean it could be worse. My wife rolled
her eyes. That was the defense for me taking a
machete and cutting her head off. Yeah, okay, yeah, but
I got really pissed off your orders. She rolled her eyes. Yeah,
I get it, I get it. You know you got
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Speaker 5 (15:29):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Back we go yet more Handle on the Law. I've
got a couple of really good ones here. Sharon, Hello Sharon,
or Sharon Sharon, Hello Sharon. What can I do for you? Sharon?

Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yes, are groups of organization that uses the mirror system
with a stimular hang.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
On, didn't understand a word of that. Let's try that
again a little slower, maybe a little more addiction.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Yes, I work for an organization which uses the marriage system,
which is similar to the double service system or recruitment
of individuals to the workforce.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Okay, hold on, okay, let me get this. You're still
speaking a little bit too quickly. You work for a
marriage system. Do I have that right?

Speaker 8 (16:18):
An organization which uses a system similar to civil service
for recruitment of individuals.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, got it?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
All right?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I understand that now.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
And currently I'm dealing with this situation where employees in
my organization are being promoted into high level positions by
their friends and management, so they're kind of circumventing the
merror system rule. And this place is me in a
position where I have to work with and we sometimes

(16:47):
reports to individuals who don't have to replisent, work experience,
or credentials. Then it can be proven that they don't understood.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
All right, what's your question.

Speaker 8 (16:59):
Question is what can be about it? My personal manager
is basically being held hostage the head of the organization,
even though it's.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Civil U is it? But let me ask you? Is
it civil service?

Speaker 8 (17:12):
It's it's a merit system, merit system or.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Merit system, But is it civil service? Is it government?

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So it is not government. It just it just looks
like government.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So he's being held hostage and you are not being promoted,
and you want to know what to do about it?

Speaker 8 (17:32):
Right, Well, basically the personal management is being held hostage
by the head of the organization.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
But he's not just like a talking head. How is
he being held hostage?

Speaker 8 (17:44):
I think there's litigation between himself and the head of
the organization.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay, why is that? Why is that being held hostage?
Just litigation?

Speaker 8 (17:54):
Well I understand that, but I know what's going on
politically that okay?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
All right, all right, So what's your question question?

Speaker 8 (18:01):
Is with him being held hostage.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
What can be done?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, First of all, First of all, the argument him
being held hostage because of litigation, that doesn't fly. That's
ludicrous on its face because people sue they're not being
held hostage because you know what he should do or
you should do. Quit, find another job. They're totally allowed

(18:26):
to do that. They can hire whoever they want, they
can promote whoever they want. That's the law.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
Okay, that's a lie with those of the merit system
is supposed to meet you an.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
It doesn't matter if they have a merit system or not.
It doesn't matter. They're gonna go. We're following the merit system.
It's our opinion that that person is better than her.
It's our opinion that Sharon does not meet the qualifications
as far as we're concerned. And then you come back,
I certainly do meet the qualifications. Well, who makes that decision.
It's your boss, Sharon. Okay, yeah, all right, that works. Uh, Chris, Hi,

(19:07):
Chris welcome.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Hello. Yes, my question is my home has been damaged.
It's insured, and it's been damaged, and it's been damaged
by a vehicle that is my next door neighbor's vehicle
and my insurance company won't cover it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, how is it damaged by your next door neighbor's vehicle?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Explain that my next door neighbor's vehicle is covered with rust. Okay,
the rust came in the window, went down, the drain
rusted the drain out, and rust is a fungus and
does other types of damage.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Now, rust is not, by the way, rust is not
a fungus.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Rust is rust just starts as a fungus.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Boy, that's news to me. I thought rust is simply
metal oxidizing. I mean, unless I have that right, it
starts as a focus and.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Then it becomes rust on the paint.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
That's not Yeah, but that's the mildew causes. Well all right,
But anyway, you can actually trace the rust from the vehicle.
How far is it parked away from your car?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
But you're a place by the way the window maybe.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
And you can show that the rust from his vehicle
entered your window and came down, and I guess it's
the same rust, and therefore it has damaged your your pipes.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Chris, Yeah, full vehicle.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, okay, I understand the vehicle is rusty.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
I got it in the air.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
No, I get it. If I'm in your insurance, if
i'm your insurance company, I'm gonna tell you no too.
And so now what do you do? So they said no.
I agree with him, but that's the size the point.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
So as to my insurance company about it, they just
told me after I was insured that they don't cover
that type of damage.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Okay, then now you argue that you do. And now
what they say Nope? You say yes? And is your question?
Now what do I do? Billy? Yeah, you sue them.
You sue your insurance company. You have no choice.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I don't have a lawyer.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, well get one, because you're gonna have a hard time.
You're gonna have a hard time connecting those dots.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Can you recommend someone?

Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, I don't have anybody that does that. You're going
to need a rust specialist. And there are sub specialties
out there where lawyers specialize in just rust cases, rust
cases on windows. No, absolutely not. I just made that up.
Oh okay, Rita, Hi, Rita, welcome, good morning. Yes, ma'am calling.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
From Cardiff, California, San Diego, and I'm calling for my
dear friend both male and femo, very dear friends. He
has it. He's in his seventies with very advanced Parkins's.
And yes, it's very tough, so I'm calling for him.
So let's say make a long story short. He's lived

(22:19):
with his girlfriend who just passed away in the hospital,
well a year, a little over a year ago. They
lived together at her property and in Cardiff for nine years.
When he went back to the hospital is when and
he couldn't drive, went back to the hospital to say
goodbye to her. He returned. She passed away while he

(22:39):
was there. He returned back to her house, which is
due a double house, and he was locked out. The
gates were all locked the house.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Okay, he was, Okay, he was living there, correct, Yes,
nine years, Okay, got it on. The nine years doesn't
really matter because anything over two weeks basically okay, okay, sweet, right,
So he was locked out. He was locked out by
whom by.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
The niece who who inherited everything.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Okay, but but but let me ask you she inherited later.
She didn't inherit the moment that her mom died. N
it was it was okay, Okay, she didn't. Okay, she
didn't inherit that her aunt died at that moment. She
didn't hear it, because you have to probate or a
trust has to go through.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
And oh yeah, that was all done prior and she
was even at the Wait.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
A minute, hold on, that was okay, hold on, So
uh aunt dies, he's in the hospital, and you're telling
me that the property transferred to nice before he came
uh into the house before he came back.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Correct, Uh, it was it was all taken care of
prior to her, because I took care of her part
of the time.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Okay, I'm okay, well, all right, I'm confused here, all right, Rita,
you gotta give me, you gotta give me a timeline. Okay.
And okay, he's in the hospital with Parkinson's and.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
So he's not no, no, that's not correct. He went
to the hospital to say goodbye to her because she
was dying.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Okay, So all right, So, uh so he came into
the house before she was dead or right after she
was dead.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
He was living in the house.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I got that part. Did he leave, did he?

Speaker 3 (24:27):
So?

Speaker 1 (24:27):
She did she die in the hospital?

Speaker 7 (24:29):
Yes? And on his returning, okay to the house, that's
when he was locked completely.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So the fact that the niece inherited she hasn't inherited yet.
At that point, there is no inheritance at that point,
the aunt just died. You can't even get a death certificate.
You can't even get a death certificate in that period
of time.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
So she already sold one of her o go ahead.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
She already sold one of what one.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
At one of one of the properties carries.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
How can she sell a property that she doesn't own, Well,
could it be in probate, Yeah, but she can't sell
it and probate. She can't sell it out of probate
unless the judge gives it to her. And you don't
know if there's a will. You don't know if there's
a will. You're conflating everything. You don't know there's a will,

(25:23):
You don't know. If it's a trust, you don't know
if it will.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
He just wants to know. I'm going to make it
easier for you. He just wants to know if he
has a case at all, because maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I was gonna you just made you just made it
all very confusing. The answer is, yeah, he's been wrongfully evicted. Yep,
there is. He goes on a viction lawyer, Thank you
for going through all of that, as opposed to just
you know, and I have to ask these questions. Yes,
I should have gone back. If it's more, don't worry
about it. Don't worry about Yes, a viction lawyer. He
has to go to an eviction lawyer. Yes, he was

(25:54):
wrongfully evicted. Get my breath. I'm losing my patience here. Okay,
let's take a break. Let's check this out. This is
Handle on the Law.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
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(27:04):
eight hundred five two zero one five three four and
welcome back. Handle on the law marginal legal advice. All right,
I'm looking at who I want to get here. Hello Kevin, welcome.
What can I do for you?

Speaker 7 (27:24):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, I haven't able to keep up because of the
loss of work. I haven't been able to afford to
keep up my yard and my cars. And my neighbor
is claiming that he took one hundred thousand dollars loss
on the sale of his house because I devalued the neighborhood.

(27:45):
Does he have a case?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, no, because he took one hundred thousand dollars loss.
So he gets to prove how he would have gotten
one hundred thousand dollars more if you had kept the
lot up. How does he prove that? Where'd he come
up with one hundred thousand dollars figure?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
You know?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
For example, let's say I have a house right and
I want five hundred thousand dollars for it, and I
end up selling it for four hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
I took a fifty thousand dollars loss because your yard
was all screwed up. Even if the person who buys
it says, I am offering you that much less because

(28:31):
of that, you can take it or not take it.
He's never proved that he has no place to go.
Has he filed a lawsuit yet? Yeah? Okay, then you
have to get a lawyer, and they're gonna go no
place on that. I don't think soap. Okay, all right,
I think you're fine. I can't imagine how a lawyer
would take that. Well, hourly, I get that. Yeah, all right, Annette,

(28:53):
Hello Annette, Yeah, yes, ma'am. Okay, what can I do
for you?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Can I can I ensue a major company that published
my Every time I move, they published my address and
that's also all my best addresses.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Okay, where do they? Where do they? Where do they
publish that?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
It's a major company.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Now you can tell me, you know who who publishes it? Google? Google,
Google publishes it. And so I don't quite understand. Uh,
they just come up and publish your name.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Moved, Yeah here it is. Here's the problem. It's a
public record. It's a public record that you have moved,
that you have a new address.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
But isn't that against our privacy, violation of our privacy.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
No, no, it's public record. You know what a violation
of my privacy is. It's not a your damn business
to know my new address. Okay, uh, that it's a violation.
And then you say, but Bill, the county recorder has
that information that you moved and here's a new address
that you're at and that's a public document. So what

(30:12):
do you do with that?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Well, because I blame it for my accounts being hacked
five times.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Wait wait, wait, wait, okay, hold on, how do you
connect that? If I go on the air, or if
I go to Google, all right and put time you
put your name in there, all right? Or pull out
records because I'm interested in a property and your name
comes up as the owner and you are hacked. How
do you connect the two?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, because I don't know how the hackers do it,
but don't.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
But I'll tell you. I don't know how the hackers
do it, but they do it with your name. They
do it with credit cards, they do it with what
you buy, they do it with your rewards cards. There
are eight million different ways of you being hacked. And

(31:08):
to say you were hacked because they published your name,
you know what, Annette, I could probably find out who
you are. Here's what we do. You made a phone call,
so you called into the station. I could probably trace
down where that phone call came from, what address, who

(31:28):
owns the address, your connection to it, and there I
have all your information, all of it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
So data breach?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So you got to notice the data breach? All of
us did that? Do you know? All of us did that?
Do you know how many data breaches there are? Everybody
in America, at one point or another has had a
data breach. Did you know that?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
My daughters haven't received any, Thank god? But how do
you know?

Speaker 1 (32:00):
You have no idea? Those are just data reaches that
have been discovered everybody. There's no such thing as privacy
on the internet. It doesn't exist anymore. That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Security number now, oh.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's the again.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I can find out your I can find out your
social security number in about three minutes.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Okay? What I do is I have? Well, first of all,
i'd hire somebody, but once again, find out what your
name is, get your address, See if your name is
on any kind of a transfer document, on any kind
of a credit card out there, I'm able to get that.
Through that, I'm able to get your Social Security number.

(32:43):
There is no privacy a net, it doesn't exist. Let
me tell you about your breath that exists. Oh man,
bad breath exists. All of us have it to some
extent or another. You know, onions car like which I love. Well,
you know, the smell, the tastes sort of linger on

(33:03):
in your mouth, and that's when it's not so delicious. Also,
the foods we eat can cause brad breath. And so
let me suggest Zelman's Minty mouth mints. And this is
what Zelman's Minty mouth mints are all about. There, it's
a mint tiny little capsule that you swallow, But first
you stuck off the minty part of it, and then
you swallow or bite into it, and the partially seed

(33:24):
oil then goes down into your gut where it gets
to work on the foods that you eat, as I've
told you, uh, and that clears that up. And then
if you have dry mouth, that clears that up, and
you just feel good about having a fresh, clean mouth.
You know, there's something kind of neat about it. You know,
after you brush your teeth, for example, that wonderful, great feeling.
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(34:12):
zelmi ns zelmans dot com. And now, as I lock
out of the show, as I told you, I'm going
to continue off the air taking phone calls and just
stay put. If you're on hold, I will get to
you very quickly. As I said, no commercials, no news,
no breaks, nothing, and the number as always eight hundred

(34:34):
five two zero one five three four. You can also
call if the lines are full, give it five minutes
because you know I'm gone. I've zipped through phone calls.
So that's eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
This is Handle on the Law. You've been listening to
the Bill Handle show. Catch my show Monday through Friday

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