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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The phone number eight hundred five to zero one five
three four for legal advice eight hundred five two zero
one five three four.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And I want to digress for just a moment.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
As you probably notice that we have had several newspeople
throughout the last oh, let's say, a couple of months,
trying to figure out who who's going to be. It's
not my call, of course, who's going to be the newsperson. Well,
this week's flavor is Andrew Carravella.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hey Bill, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
How were you heredy?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Good?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's a pleasure having you here this week. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, So what do you plan on doing next Saturday?
Clearly not this show. See that's my point. Thank you
for bringing my point.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So you know fun fact you My first shift at
KFI was this show and you told me don't get
used to it. It's a revolving share. Wow. So this goes
back a long while. How long have you? How long
have you been here? March twenty twenty one. Did I
tell you you're not gonna last a week? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
I tend to do that to everybody. I think three
days is what you gave me.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, And I generally get get credit for being usually
right so wrong on that one. All right, so Andrew
is this week's winner of let's see who is going
to be our newsman?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
All right? Eight hundred five two.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Zero one five three four. That's eight hundred five two
zero one five to three is the number to call.
And as always, top of the hour, always the best
time to call.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Top of the first.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Hour is even better because that's when the lines are
wide open, and you if you call in and ask
what's the best floorboards to put in your house or
what kind of windows, I'm generally not going to tell you.
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four is
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the number. This is handle on the law margin all
legal advice. If you have ever built in southern California
or have been involved in any way in construction, this
may very well be the hardest place, particularly Los Angeles,
well particularly calabasas we're along the coast, the most difficult
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place to build housing in the country because the permits,
the zoning.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
For example, we have a Coastal Commission which was established
by law, and the Coastal Commission has unbelievable power and
it goes in five miles from the coast. The Coastal
Commission five miles in has unbridled power to say no,
you're not building, or no we're not going to let
you go that far, or no that we want a
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further setback on the street, and it can take years.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
You're going through the zoning process.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The building in safety in many cases is the environmental
laws have to be looked at the wildlife. Are you
getting involved in interfering with that natural habitat?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It just goes on and on, and they have enormous power.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, and then you have the city has enormous power,
and you have the county has enormous power, enormous power.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It can take if you're a developer, it can take years. Well.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
In light of the fires, and of course the rebuilding
has to take place, and very quickly the governor, our
Governor Newsom suspended environmental rules to ease the post fire
rebuilding just had to happen. Karen Bass, the mayor of
Los Angeles, said, we're going to get through this process
in thirty days. Usually you can't get the first phone
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call in thirty days when applying for any kind of
permit through the City of Los Angeles and the Coastal
Commission is going to take you months just to get
in the front door. Well, Newsom is spending all of that,
which is.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Kind of neat.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now, there won't be certain aspects of building that are
going to be suspended earthquake requirements. For example, the size
of foundations, the kind of walls you build, the kind
of the dry wall you put up, and the attaching
the house to foundations. I mean, those all stay. But
the rest of it, Hey, knock your socks off. You're
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going to be able to u as a developer, going
to be able to build, which is a terrific, terrific idea.
By the way, a twenty twenty three study found that
the average unit in a multi family property in the
city the city of Los Angeles took five years to complete,
with a substantial portion of that related to the bureaucratic
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approval and going through the city. For example, this is
just one example building in safety. It comes back, the
plans come back. No we want to change this, No,
make a change for this. No we want the bolts
to be bigger here. No, we want the retaining wall
to be much stronger. And the changes are made, and
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then they come back and go no, that's not strong enough.
And it's like a ping pung ball going back and forth.
So the good news is the governor is suspending the
environmental rules, statewide environmental rules, and we're going to see
the city and the counties do exactly the same thing.
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David, Hello, David, you're up. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
What do you do when the bank that has a
safety deposit box with your will and living trust in
burns down?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay? Is this you or this hypothetical?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
It's me, but it's me.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So now just a couple of questions before I give
you the easiest answer in the world. Is that the
only copy of the trust and will you had?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I have terms of xerox copies.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's fine, Yeah, those will work, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And what you can do is reno or I.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The trust and probably just have get a wet signature
from the same witnesses. Now, how about just rewriting them
so they become original again.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You're still alive. But David, you're still alive. You can
change it in two seconds. You can change it every
week if you want.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
So.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Just go to the attorney write the damn thing.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Okay, that's all.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's easypasy.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know you can always change it unless it's an
irro irrevocable trust, which basically no one uses, no one has.
Uh yeah, uh all right, Tim?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Hi Tim, welcome, Hi Bill.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Is it illegal for my tree to block the sun?
To the neighbor, solar panel and Tim Callum carrying US
President best Major candidate K A L E M K
A R I A N.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
First of all, it is is it the illegal? It
is not illegal. Everybody says can you do it? No,
But there's a big difference between illegality and stopping someone
or forcing someone to do it, or upholding the CCNRS.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So no, it is not illegal to do it. I mean,
you're not going to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
However, your neighbor who has those solar panels will sue
you and say, hey, your panels are or your tree
is getting in the way of my panels. Now, if
your tree is already above the level of where the
sun would come down on the solar panels, you can argue, hey,
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you came in afterwards, but who's nuts enough to put
solar panels in with the trees in front are blocking it?
So it's going to be a lawsuit or is going
to be a motion and a judge will order you
to cut your trees down. And then the next question,
and then the next question is I don't spell very
well very well, so and I'm not I don't write
this stuff down because I'm too lazy. So presidential candidate
(09:08):
go through that again? What was your question?
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Tim Callum Carrion, US President.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Tim Callum Carrion, US President. I don't know what that means.
I thought Donald Trump is the US president?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What am I missing? You're you're pitching. Oh I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You're pitching someone that no one has ever heard of. Man,
you want someone who that should be president? According to
you and three other people? Do I have that right?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'm the one? How about this? What if I run
for president?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I say I'm the best one, and I have at
radio station and I talked.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
To millions of people. So Tim, h.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And by the way, I still don't know how to
spell your name because I don't care. All right, God,
I love that I'm ready for president. Here's how to
spell my name? How Tony, Hi, Tony welcome?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hey, Bill soorry about a nineteen ninety four crime bill
question for you.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
In nineteen ninety five, I was convicted.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The state statue says that it goes up to one
hundred grams of math. I had over one hundred grams.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Can I be convicted under that statue?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What do you mean? Can you be convicted? Are they
charging you again.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
No, no, I'm trying to get my gun rights back.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Are you already got conviction? You already? You already have
a conviction of the books, right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And the one hundred and twelve thousand dollars? What restitution?
Was it?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
A fine? Twelve?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
The state statue that they convicted me under right, says
that they can do that up to one one hundred grams?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Okay, I got that, I understand, And now it had
I had one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay by the state.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, when was the statute passed after or before you
were convicted and fined one hundred and twelve thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, I wasn't fired anything. What was that?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What was one hundred and twelve thousand dollars? What was
that restitution?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
One hundred and twelve grams?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh, I'm sorry, my mistake, my mistake, one hundred and twelve.
I got it. Okay, here's the deal. More than they
can I understand that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They can lower the amount of the amount of meth
you have in order to have a conviction. In other words,
let's say now it's fifty grams, then it was one
hundred grams. Guess what if you are convicted before for
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one hundred grams, you got nailed. This is why President
Biden issued twenty five hundred pardons for exactly this kind
of crime.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So no, if you were convicted before.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
The law is passed, you got nailed on the old law,
you're done. You know, there were people in Texas twenty
years ago that got jail time for a joint one
joint and they went to prison and they're still in
prison unless their pardon or make a motion.
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Speaker 1 (13:45):
Sometimes we're jammed and you can't get in for an
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Speaker 2 (13:54):
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Speaker 1 (13:57):
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Handle on the Law.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Marginal legal advice. I know you're still talking to Mike,
but let's put Oh now, let's go to Bill. Hey, Bill,
welcome to Handle on the Law.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Good morning Bill. Yeah, my son was in a relationship
with a girl and they rented a house two years ago.
The house was bad living conditions. They ended up suing
the landlord. They received a settlement this week. The lawyers
sent out an email and they had to do a
docu signed to accept the money. My son never even
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saw the document, and his girlfriend ended up creating an
email address that looked very similar.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, God, is all right? Did she get all the money?
Speaker 7 (15:53):
She's got all the money?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, Well, he sues her, he sues her.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
We simple can we do, right?
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Can we do an RFO though in court to keep
her from spending that money until you get her in
court to say yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you can do it. An emergency order.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You can do a one and just walk into court
and hopefully it's like a restraining order. Right, it's like
a abuse restraining order where the judge will grant a
temporary order stopping it right now, pending a hearing, because
exactly for a purpose like this, by the time a
hearing comes up in two weeks, three weeks, where both
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sides are given a chance to argue their case, the
money could already be spent.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, you can also.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Try because what she did is commit a forgery, a
criminal act.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You can go to the DA, but do they really care?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Not?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Not much? How much money did she take that your
son should have had?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well, the settlement was fifteen thousands.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, so she took so she took the extra seventy
five hundred dollars. So there's your lawsuit a small claims court.
The same time you go for the restraining order, a
temporary er. That's what you do, you know, Okay, Yeah,
or does she does she have a dog?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Does she have a dog?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Okay, well, okay, she has a dog. Now let's go
in that direction. It may not actually be legal.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Does the dog like meat?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
The dog likes meat.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
See where I'm going with this?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Okay, dog gone.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
The girlfriend has said next dog also gone until you
pay up.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Now, that is not legal advice.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And I don't know if I would follow it, but
I would get so pissed off I would do whatever
I could.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Is that along the lines of having Luigi knock on.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
The Yeah, pretty much?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, yeah, yep, it's it's a Luigi answer, you bet. Now,
just a quick word about these Luigi answers. I basically
joke about two different kinds of ways of going after
someone that is difficult to go legally.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
One, you kill their dog, and the more they love
the dog, the better off. You're stronger your position. That's one.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And during the course of divorces when I and typically
it's a male who calls me, the spouse says, oh
my wife is doing this, this and this, and it's
so unfair and it is you know, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Bill?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's going to take forever. I don't have money for
the attorney, could kill your wife. It's just easier, you know,
do your four years.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And the way to do it is you get a
friend of yours and you have a friend's seducer, and
the two of them are in bed, and you break
in and you have a gun and you shoot her,
and you'll do four years. Maybe you know because it's
a crime of passion. In other words, you reacted and
you really didn't know what you were doing. It does
out argument work sometimes, Okay, So now those are your
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two choices, the dog or killing of the spouse. I
get emails, and the dog emails are about ten to
one versus the spouse emails. What does that tell you?
It's the way it works. You bet all right? Paul, Hello, Paul, welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Bill Sure nineteen eighty six. I was convicted of burglary
ninety six. I got an expungement granted four years ago.
I filed for a governor's pardon, and last I was
told a year and a half ago it's sitting on
the governor's desk.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
How long do I wait?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
As long as the governor wants?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Okay, The governor has.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Full complete pardon power. And there is no time limit.
The only thing that the governor has to be is
the governor, and after that can issue a pardon and
sometimes last day President Biden twenty five hundred dollars twenty
five hundred pardons last day.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Every president goes last day stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And you hopefully and the more you're either connected or
the more, the better you can make your case. Now
here's what happens. It's not he just goes to the governor.
There is a governor's committee, a pardon committee made up
of people usually in the Department of Justice. First they
recommend you submit to them. They recommend, and it's just
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on the governor's desk. So matter, by the way, were
you in prison for any.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Length of time?
Speaker 6 (20:38):
County jail only for how long?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Three months?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Three months in county jail. Now this is a personal
question that I don't know if I would answer, But
is that when you became gay might have been all.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Right, Yeah, that's good. I know that answer is the question.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Oh right, Mike, Hello, Mike, welcome.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Oh hi, Yeah, I have a property up in Santa
Rosa and the homeowners Association just jumped by four hundred bucks,
so I called that's per.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Month, right, yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
How much was it before the four hundred dollars? Okay,
so they raised it from three hundred to seven hundred yes,
whoa all right?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then they say it's because of the the fire
situation up. Okay, Well I guess you could say that.
But where she lives is all right?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, So what's your question, Mike.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well, so she goes, well, hell, I'll sell the place, right, Well,
she found out it's off it's off its foundation. Ah cancer,
So okay, So who does she go to?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Because nobody HOA particularly under these circumstances, is able, certainly legally,
unless the CNRS say differently, they can assess the homeowners
any amount of money. I got an assessment on my
home that just knocked me for a loop, and it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Was completely crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
We had a street that went on, there was an
issue as to the security people, and my assessment was
twenty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Now they let me pay it over three years. But
can you.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Imagine getting that perfectly legal? By the way, there's no
place to go to.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Who does she go? Maybe the builder? How old is
the unit? How old is the community?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
About eighteen?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, you see they got a ten year and which
is automatic. You can sue a developer within ten years
of construction. Now you're past that, and it's hard to
argue defective building because it was round for eighteen years.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, there's no place for her to go.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
There really isn't. She keep saying, Yeah, Yeah, that's the
way it works.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
She's out of luck.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean, my Homeowner Associations. That's one of the reasons
I sold my house. Not only downsizing the HOA was
completely insane, but it was a small group of homes
and they wanted twenty four hour guards with a guard gate.
I mean, do you have any idea in thirty six homes?
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Speaker 2 (24:19):
Michael. Hello, Michael, you're.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
Up, Good morning. I got a question. Make it quick,
sweet and short. Okay, my brother has done thirty years
in prison. He's gonna be getting out in September. Now
it's gonna be sixty two.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
The question is he able to fill for social Security
because that's gonna be his own ind Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's a good question. First of all, of course, as
soon as.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You said thirty years in prison, my first question is
what did he do to get thirty years in prison?
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Drugs? Duy, manslaughter? Yeah, they just stay through the.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow do you I? And he was charged with manslaughter?
I guess vehicular manslaughter?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
WHOA? And he did thirty years? How many people did
he kill?
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Two that I know of? But this is thirty years ago,
so you know, back in the day, the laws were
a little bit tougher.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
No, actually, back in the day, the laws were not tougher.
The laws were more.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Lenient back in the day. Back in the day, it
was almost a slap on the wrist. No, maybe not
when people died.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But WHOA.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
All right, So can he apply for social security state
prison or federal prison?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, Uh, okay, that's state prison, correct, Yes, it is okay,
all right. Uh, I'm a little bit confused as.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
To state prison. Whether he can apply federal prison.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You can, even if you are on Social Security in
federal prison, you don't get Social Security while you're in prison.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Now, state prison.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
Is gonna be he's gonna be sixty two.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No, I got that. I got that. But here and
here is the question I have though.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
If he is in prison for thirty years, he is
not working, or if he is working, he gets forty
cents an hour or whatever. So paying into yeah, paying
into the Social Security system. If you're putting in three
hundred dollars a year, you're not building up much of
a security benefit. You're not building up much of that
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fund for yourself. So even if he were to get it,
it would be minuscule.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So, yeah, I think he's out of luck, believe that.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, he's gonna have to get a job of some
kind and go to I don't know, you know, go
to a fast food establishment or a job where they
don't care or they're willing to accept a felon that
has done thirty years.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Yeah, go burgers for Yeah maybe maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But he'll but at least you'll get burgers to eat. Yeah,
he's in a tough position.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It is not easy. That's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Uh, that is Uh, boy, that's tough because even if
you can get social Security, remember you have to pay
into this, the sociecurity system. And if you've never put
in money in social security system, how can you get paid?
All right, Tom, Hello, Tom, welcome.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Good morning. I have an easy one for you.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Okay, as an executive of a trust, shouldn't Now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You're either a trustee.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You're either a trustee of a trust or an executor
of the will. So uh whatever, So let's call it.
You're a trustee, okay, of a trust.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
All right, I'm a trust I'm a trustee.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Shouldn't I have a copy prior to any event?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Of course you should have a copy prior to whoever wrote.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The trust dies. That's for a that's a good reason.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And of course you should have a copy as the trustee,
because otherwise, how do you know how do you know
who's going to distribute the trust?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Who has a copy?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I mean, if you don't have one, who's got one?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
My parent?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
My father?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Okay, your father is your father is the trust door, right,
he's the one that made.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The trust correct? Okay?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, I mean he should give you a copy, but
he doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So as long as someone can hunt up the copy
of the trust, uh, then you yeah, then you have
the copy. If no one can find the trust, uh,
then there really is no trust. Then it sort of
disappears and you go back to the rules of intestacy
because you have to know what's in the trust. You
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can't just say, here's a trust, but we don't know
what's in it, so you have to distribute it as
a trustee. So, yeah, there has to be a you
should have a copy. Now, it could be that you
don't have a copy until he dies and then you
are given a copy.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That is possible if he has made provisions.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
For example, I've got a copy in a safe deposit box.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Here's the key. Then that works.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Let me tell you I got a scam coming in.
I put my phone in, put on silent usually answer
these scams.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Okay, but that's the answer.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So and also, if you're a trust door, which I
am because I have a family trust, I have six
copies of the trust. The lawyer has one, the trustee
has one. I've given one to friends. I have one
in safe deposit box. I mean, there's no way that
trust isn't going to be around. Okay, let me ask
you a question.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
As you probably notice that we have had several newspeople
throughout the last oh, let's say, a couple of months,
trying to figure out who who's going to be. It's
not my call, of course, who's going to be the newsperson. Well,
this week's flavor is Andrew Carravella.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hey Bill, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hey?
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How were you heredy?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Good?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's a pleasure having you here this week. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, So what do you plan on doing next Saturday?
Clearly not this show. See that's my point. Thank you
for bringing my point.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So you know fun fact you My first shift at
KFI was this show and you told me don't get
used to it. It's a revolving share. Wow. So this goes
back a long while. How long have you? How long
have you been here? March twenty twenty one. Did I
tell you you're not gonna last a week? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
I tend to do that to everybody. I think three
days is what you gave me.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, And I generally get get credit for being usually
right so wrong on that one. All right, so Andrew
is this week's winner of let's see who is going
to be our newsman?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
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or have been involved in any way in construction, this
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well particularly calabasas we're along the coast, the most difficult
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the zoning.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's insane.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
For example, we have a Coastal Commission which was established
by law, and the Coastal Commission has unbelievable power and
it goes in five miles from the coast. The Coastal
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you're not building, or no we're not going to let
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Speaker 2 (02:54):
You're going through the zoning process.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
The building in safety in many cases is the environmental
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Speaker 2 (03:11):
It just goes on and on, and they have enormous power.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, and then you have the city has enormous power,
and you have the county has enormous power, enormous power.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It can take if you're a developer, it can take years. Well.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
In light of the fires, and of course the rebuilding
has to take place, and very quickly the governor, our
Governor Newsom suspended environmental rules to ease the post fire
rebuilding just had to happen. Karen Bass, the mayor of
Los Angeles, said, we're going to get through this process
in thirty days. Usually you can't get the first phone
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permit through the City of Los Angeles and the Coastal
Commission is going to take you months just to get
in the front door. Well, Newsom is spending all of that,
which is.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Kind of neat.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now, there won't be certain aspects of building that are
going to be suspended earthquake requirements. For example, the size
of foundations, the kind of walls you build, the kind
of the dry wall you put up, and the attaching
the house to foundations. I mean, those all stay. But
the rest of it, Hey, knock your socks off. You're
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going to be able to u as a developer, going
to be able to build, which is a terrific, terrific idea.
By the way, a twenty twenty three study found that
the average unit in a multi family property in the
city the city of Los Angeles took five years to complete,
with a substantial portion of that related to the bureaucratic
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just one example building in safety. It comes back, the
plans come back. No we want to change this, No,
make a change for this. No we want the bolts
to be bigger here. No, we want the retaining wall
to be much stronger. And the changes are made, and
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then they come back and go no, that's not strong enough.
And it's like a ping pung ball going back and forth.
So the good news is the governor is suspending the
environmental rules, statewide environmental rules, and we're going to see
the city and the counties do exactly the same thing.
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David, Hello, David, you're up. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
What do you do when the bank that has a
safety deposit box with your will and living trust in
burns down?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay? Is this you or this hypothetical?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
It's me, but it's me.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So now just a couple of questions before I give
you the easiest answer in the world. Is that the
only copy of the trust and will you had?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I have terms of xerox copies.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's fine, Yeah, those will work, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And what you can do is reno or I.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The trust and probably just have get a wet signature
from the same witnesses. Now, how about just rewriting them
so they become original again.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You're still alive. But David, you're still alive. You can
change it in two seconds. You can change it every
week if you want.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
So.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Just go to the attorney write the damn thing.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Okay, that's all.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's easypasy.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know you can always change it unless it's an
irro irrevocable trust, which basically no one uses, no one has.
Uh yeah, uh all right, Tim?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Hi Tim, welcome, Hi Bill.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Is it illegal for my tree to block the sun?
To the neighbor, solar panel and Tim Callum carrying US
President best Major candidate K A L E M K
A R I A N.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
First of all, it is is it the illegal? It
is not illegal. Everybody says can you do it? No,
But there's a big difference between illegality and stopping someone
or forcing someone to do it, or upholding the CCNRS.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So no, it is not illegal to do it. I mean,
you're not going to be arrested.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
However, your neighbor who has those solar panels will sue
you and say, hey, your panels are or your tree
is getting in the way of my panels. Now, if
your tree is already above the level of where the
sun would come down on the solar panels, you can argue, hey,
(08:44):
you came in afterwards, but who's nuts enough to put
solar panels in with the trees in front are blocking it?
So it's going to be a lawsuit or is going
to be a motion and a judge will order you
to cut your trees down. And then the next question,
and then the next question is I don't spell very
well very well, so and I'm not I don't write
this stuff down because I'm too lazy. So presidential candidate
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go through that again? What was your question?
Speaker 8 (09:11):
Tim Callum Carrion, US President.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Tim Callum Carrion, US President. I don't know what that means.
I thought Donald Trump is the US president?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
What am I missing? You're you're pitching. Oh I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You're pitching someone that no one has ever heard of. Man,
you want someone who that should be president? According to
you and three other people? Do I have that right?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'm the one? How about this? What if I run
for president?
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I say I'm the best one, and I have at
radio station and I talked.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
To millions of people. So Tim, h.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And by the way, I still don't know how to
spell your name because I don't care. All right, God,
I love that I'm ready for president. Here's how to
spell my name? How Tony, Hi, Tony welcome?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hey, Bill soorry about a nineteen ninety four crime bill
question for you.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
In nineteen ninety five, I was convicted.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The state statue says that it goes up to one
hundred grams of math. I had over one hundred grams.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Can I be convicted under that statue?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
What do you mean? Can you be convicted? Are they
charging you again.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
No, no, I'm trying to get my gun rights back.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Are you already got conviction? You already? You already have
a conviction of the books, right.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah, okay?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And the one hundred and twelve thousand dollars? What restitution?
Was it?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
A fine? Twelve?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
The state statue that they convicted me under right, says
that they can do that up to one one hundred grams?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Okay, I got that, I understand, And now it had
I had one hundred and twelve.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay by the state.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Okay, when was the statute passed after or before you
were convicted and fined one hundred and twelve thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, I wasn't fired anything. What was that?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What was one hundred and twelve thousand dollars? What was
that restitution?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
One hundred and twelve grams?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Oh, I'm sorry, my mistake, my mistake, one hundred and twelve.
I got it. Okay, here's the deal. More than they
can I understand that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They can lower the amount of the amount of meth
you have in order to have a conviction. In other words,
let's say now it's fifty grams, then it was one
hundred grams. Guess what if you are convicted before for
(11:53):
one hundred grams, you got nailed. This is why President
Biden issued twenty five hundred pardons for exactly this kind
of crime.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So no, if you were convicted before.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
The law is passed, you got nailed on the old law,
you're done. You know, there were people in Texas twenty
years ago that got jail time for a joint one
joint and they went to prison and they're still in
prison unless their pardon or make a motion.
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Speaker 8 (14:54):
Hello.
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Handle on the Law.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Marginal legal advice. I know you're still talking to Mike,
but let's put Oh now, let's go to Bill. Hey, Bill,
welcome to Handle on the Law.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Good morning Bill. Yeah, my son was in a relationship
with a girl and they rented a house two years ago.
The house was bad living conditions. They ended up suing
the landlord. They received a settlement this week. The lawyers
sent out an email and they had to do a
docu signed to accept the money. My son never even
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saw the document, and his girlfriend ended up creating an
email address that looked very similar.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, God, is all right? Did she get all the money?
Speaker 7 (15:53):
She's got all the money?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Okay, Well, he sues her, he sues her.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
We simple can we do, right?
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Can we do an RFO though in court to keep
her from spending that money until you get her in
court to say yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you can do it. An emergency order.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You can do a one and just walk into court
and hopefully it's like a restraining order. Right, it's like
a abuse restraining order where the judge will grant a
temporary order stopping it right now, pending a hearing, because
exactly for a purpose like this, by the time a
hearing comes up in two weeks, three weeks, where both
(16:32):
sides are given a chance to argue their case, the
money could already be spent.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, you can also.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Try because what she did is commit a forgery, a
criminal act.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You can go to the DA, but do they really care?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Not?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Not much? How much money did she take that your
son should have had?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well, the settlement was fifteen thousands.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, so she took so she took the extra seventy
five hundred dollars. So there's your lawsuit a small claims court.
The same time you go for the restraining order, a
temporary er. That's what you do, you know, Okay, Yeah,
or does she does she have a dog?
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Does she have a dog?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Okay, well, okay, she has a dog. Now let's go
in that direction. It may not actually be legal.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Does the dog like meat?
Speaker 7 (17:24):
The dog likes meat.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
See where I'm going with this?
Speaker 7 (17:28):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Okay, dog gone.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
The girlfriend has said next dog also gone until you
pay up.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Now, that is not legal advice.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And I don't know if I would follow it, but
I would get so pissed off I would do whatever
I could.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Is that along the lines of having Luigi knock on.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
The Yeah, pretty much?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, yeah, yep, it's it's a Luigi answer, you bet. Now,
just a quick word about these Luigi answers. I basically
joke about two different kinds of ways of going after
someone that is difficult to go legally.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
One, you kill their dog, and the more they love
the dog, the better off. You're stronger your position. That's one.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
And during the course of divorces when I and typically
it's a male who calls me, the spouse says, oh
my wife is doing this, this and this, and it's
so unfair and it is you know, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Bill?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's going to take forever. I don't have money for
the attorney, could kill your wife. It's just easier, you know,
do your four years.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And the way to do it is you get a
friend of yours and you have a friend's seducer, and
the two of them are in bed, and you break
in and you have a gun and you shoot her,
and you'll do four years. Maybe you know because it's
a crime of passion. In other words, you reacted and
you really didn't know what you were doing. It does
out argument work sometimes, Okay, So now those are your
(18:54):
two choices, the dog or killing of the spouse. I
get emails, and the dog emails are about ten to
one versus the spouse emails. What does that tell you?
It's the way it works. You bet all right? Paul, Hello, Paul, welcome.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Bill Sure nineteen eighty six. I was convicted of burglary
ninety six. I got an expungement granted four years ago.
I filed for a governor's pardon, and last I was
told a year and a half ago it's sitting on
the governor's desk.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
How long do I wait?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
As long as the governor wants?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Okay, The governor has.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Full complete pardon power. And there is no time limit.
The only thing that the governor has to be is
the governor, and after that can issue a pardon and
sometimes last day President Biden twenty five hundred dollars twenty
five hundred pardons last day.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Every president goes last day stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And you hopefully and the more you're either connected or
the more, the better you can make your case. Now
here's what happens. It's not he just goes to the governor.
There is a governor's committee, a pardon committee made up
of people usually in the Department of Justice. First they
recommend you submit to them. They recommend, and it's just
(20:30):
on the governor's desk. So matter, by the way, were
you in prison for any.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Length of time?
Speaker 6 (20:38):
County jail only for how long?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Three months?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Three months in county jail. Now this is a personal
question that I don't know if I would answer, But
is that when you became gay might have been all.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Right, Yeah, that's good. I know that answer is the question.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Oh right, Mike, Hello, Mike, welcome.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Oh hi, Yeah, I have a property up in Santa
Rosa and the homeowners Association just jumped by four hundred bucks,
so I called that's per.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Month, right, yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
How much was it before the four hundred dollars? Okay,
so they raised it from three hundred to seven hundred yes,
whoa all right?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then they say it's because of the the fire
situation up. Okay, Well I guess you could say that.
But where she lives is all right?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay, So what's your question, Mike.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well, so she goes, well, hell, I'll sell the place, right, Well,
she found out it's off it's off its foundation. Ah cancer,
So okay, So who does she go to?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Because nobody HOA particularly under these circumstances, is able, certainly legally,
unless the CNRS say differently, they can assess the homeowners
any amount of money. I got an assessment on my
home that just knocked me for a loop, and it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Was completely crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
We had a street that went on, there was an
issue as to the security people, and my assessment was
twenty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Now they let me pay it over three years. But
can you.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Imagine getting that perfectly legal? By the way, there's no
place to go to.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Who does she go? Maybe the builder? How old is
the unit? How old is the community?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
About eighteen?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, you see they got a ten year and which
is automatic. You can sue a developer within ten years
of construction. Now you're past that, and it's hard to
argue defective building because it was round for eighteen years.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, there's no place for her to go.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
There really isn't. She keep saying, Yeah, Yeah, that's the
way it works.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
She's out of luck.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean, my Homeowner Associations. That's one of the reasons
I sold my house. Not only downsizing the HOA was
completely insane, but it was a small group of homes
and they wanted twenty four hour guards with a guard gate.
I mean, do you have any idea in thirty six homes?
(23:29):
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Speaker 2 (24:19):
Michael. Hello, Michael, you're.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
Up, Good morning. I got a question. Make it quick,
sweet and short. Okay, my brother has done thirty years
in prison. He's gonna be getting out in September. Now
it's gonna be sixty two.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
The question is he able to fill for social Security
because that's gonna be his own ind Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's a good question. First of all, of course, as
soon as.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You said thirty years in prison, my first question is
what did he do to get thirty years in prison?
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Drugs? Duy, manslaughter? Yeah, they just stay through the.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow do you I? And he was charged with manslaughter?
I guess vehicular manslaughter?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
WHOA? And he did thirty years? How many people did
he kill?
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Two that I know of? But this is thirty years ago,
so you know, back in the day, the laws were
a little bit tougher.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
No, actually, back in the day, the laws were not tougher.
The laws were more.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Lenient back in the day. Back in the day, it
was almost a slap on the wrist. No, maybe not
when people died.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
But WHOA.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
All right, So can he apply for social security state
prison or federal prison?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm assuming.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, Uh, okay, that's state prison, correct, Yes, it is okay,
all right. Uh, I'm a little bit confused as.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
To state prison. Whether he can apply federal prison.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You can, even if you are on Social Security in
federal prison, you don't get Social Security while you're in prison.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Now, state prison.
Speaker 9 (26:05):
Is gonna be he's gonna be sixty two.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
No, I got that. I got that. But here and
here is the question I have though.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
If he is in prison for thirty years, he is
not working, or if he is working, he gets forty
cents an hour or whatever. So paying into yeah, paying
into the Social Security system. If you're putting in three
hundred dollars a year, you're not building up much of
a security benefit. You're not building up much of that
(26:35):
fund for yourself. So even if he were to get it,
it would be minuscule.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So, yeah, I think he's out of luck, believe that.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, he's gonna have to get a job of some
kind and go to I don't know, you know, go
to a fast food establishment or a job where they
don't care or they're willing to accept a felon that
has done thirty years.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Yeah, go burgers for Yeah maybe maybe.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
But he'll but at least you'll get burgers to eat. Yeah,
he's in a tough position.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
It is not easy. That's an interesting question.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Uh, that is Uh, boy, that's tough because even if
you can get social Security, remember you have to pay
into this, the sociecurity system. And if you've never put
in money in social security system, how can you get paid?
All right, Tom, Hello, Tom, welcome.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Good morning. I have an easy one for you.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Okay, as an executive of a trust, shouldn't Now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
You're either a trustee.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
You're either a trustee of a trust or an executor
of the will. So uh whatever, So let's call it.
You're a trustee, okay, of a trust.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
All right, I'm a trust I'm a trustee.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Shouldn't I have a copy prior to any event?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Of course you should have a copy prior to whoever wrote.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
The trust dies. That's for a that's a good reason.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And of course you should have a copy as the trustee,
because otherwise, how do you know how do you know
who's going to distribute the trust?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Who has a copy?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I mean, if you don't have one, who's got one?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
My parent?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
My father?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Okay, your father is your father is the trust door, right,
he's the one that made.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
The trust correct? Okay?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, I mean he should give you a copy, but
he doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So as long as someone can hunt up the copy
of the trust, uh, then you yeah, then you have
the copy. If no one can find the trust, uh,
then there really is no trust. Then it sort of
disappears and you go back to the rules of intestacy
because you have to know what's in the trust. You
(28:38):
can't just say, here's a trust, but we don't know
what's in it, so you have to distribute it as
a trustee. So, yeah, there has to be a you
should have a copy. Now, it could be that you
don't have a copy until he dies and then you
are given a copy.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That is possible if he has made provisions.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
For example, I've got a copy in a safe deposit box.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Here's the key. Then that works.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Let me tell you I got a scam coming in.
I put my phone in, put on silent usually answer
these scams.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Okay, but that's the answer.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So and also, if you're a trust door, which I
am because I have a family trust, I have six
copies of the trust. The lawyer has one, the trustee
has one. I've given one to friends. I have one
in safe deposit box. I mean, there's no way that
trust isn't going to be around. Okay, let me ask
you a question.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
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the mirror, and before brushing your.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Teeth, you can actually see your breath. It's pretty disgusting.
So let me suggest brushing your teeth, of course, and
but that goes away very quickly, that.
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