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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. And
if you've ever thought of calling in, now is the time. Also,
the last few weeks, I have not been doing my
phone calls Tuesdays and Thursdays after my morning show, so
there should be a pent up demand.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let me see how many lines I'm jammed here? One
two three.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
No phone calls in yet, eight hundred five two zero
one five three four.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
A couple, but you could tell instantly.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Our screener, Richie can tell if they're worthwhile or not. Okay,
this is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you have absolutely no case. There is a
lawsuit going on. And this is a Donald Trump story,
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not that we don't do these on a regular basis,
but this is the philosophy that Donald Trump has had
since the days he went into business and was a
developer in New York. And that is real simple. You
hit him, he hits you back twice as hard, twice
as long. And here is the case in point. This
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is his lawsuit against CBS. Sixty minute interview that CBS
did with Kamala Harris, and it was a pretty positive
interview and there was editing involved as there always is
what the Trump organization is saying to CBS in this
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lawsuit for twenty billion dollars in damages, is you edited
that Kamala Harris interview to make her look good to
making me look bad, which I don't quite understand. But effectively,
you were unfair. You were not objective about how away
(02:01):
you were handling both those campaigns, and you edited Kamala
Harris's interview, didn't put in any of her negative statements
or her groping for words or somehow going off on
a tangent. Sounds like this show, doesn't it? And CBS
is saying, no, we didn't. Now, the reality is whenever
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there's a sixty minute interview.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That is made. And I went.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Back in the eighties, was interviewed by sixty minutes on
a surrogacy story because when surrogacy broke and that was
my specialty. I was interviewed for a segment on sixty
minutes and the reporter sat down with me and I
was probably two hours, three hours of being interviewed question
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after question. They ended up using about three minutes on
the story. And you can imagine how much editing was done. Now,
if you were, if I were to attack CBS. CBS
would say, yes, we edited, but we didn't change anything substantially.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's the same story.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And your views, your take on this are exactly the same.
That's what they're saying about this Kamala Harris interview. So
what Trump is saying, we want the raw material, we
want all of it, and we'll see how much editing
you really did. Well, every organization that film's interviews edits.
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Now do they edit to the detriment? Do they edit
to the positive? That's a different issue, but they edit.
And the other thing is twenty billion dollars in damages
Trump won. What kind of damages do you have? You
sixty minutes produced a piece that was unfair, that was
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totally biased.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Therefore I lost the race. No, I won the race.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I don't understand at all how he is considered.
I can understand the lawsuit because once again you just
attack the mainstream media because it's all fake news. But
come on, that's a tough one, all right. Phone calls Steve,
welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hello Steve, Hello, Yes, sir, what can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I lost a small claims case against the service provider.
I was wanting to know about the specifications for like
filing a motion to reconsider and or appeal. I can
either do one or both one after the other. But
the reconsideration the specifics. I think it's you either have
to have new evidence and or maybe not necessarily agreeing
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with the ruling that the judge kind of missed something
within the ruling. He doesn't even cite it, which was
really the primary argument, and he totally there's nothing in
the ruling about it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay, And you want to know what to do about it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, the ruling is he found that the defendant was
there was no damages caused.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I understand, and you were able to prove there were damages.
I get that. How much money were you suing for Steve?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Total was about thirty six hundred thirty eight hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, okay, let me tell you the reality of appealing it.
Nothing ever happens because what the appeals are going to say,
what the appeal always says is that the judge, we
may disagree. This is typical appeal language. We may disagree,
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but it's up to the judge to consider or not
consider evidence.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So you lost. That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's small claims court. It's that's the craziness the small
claims court. I mean, it bounces all over the place,
and there really isn't any rules of evidence. And you
can't argue that this shouldn't, that this piece of evidence
should not be admitted, or this statement should not.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's the wild West.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And either the judge disliked you or the judge just
didn't care or didn't pay attention.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's so funny because I noticed that, Yeah, the judge
was this wasn't the original judge that was assigned to
the case. And that's another question in a small claims case,
is the judge that's assigned actually does he actually read
the complaint and or any other motions that were found.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Who knows, no idea, But yeah, the appeals do nothing.
It's really distressing, especially if you lose the case and
you shouldn't have lost. Uh, And that happens all the time. Chris, Hello, Chris,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Good morning Bill. Yeah, all right, yea, I talked to you.
I talked you about two weeks ago and I got
cut off, but you had given me some information on
a small claims in case. I was going to file
against Chase Bank for a deposit.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I had a.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Couple questions regarding the I know you have to have
a demand letter that you must present before filing a
small claims case. So one question is, because I'm trying
to file against such a large corporation, do I have
to put a name on the demand letter? And how
long a time do I give them? Like a month?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I understand, And so we start with I don't
know about the rules of filing against a bank that
is a national bank, and there are all kinds of
rules involved in that because there is there are federal
statutes involved.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
This is not as simple.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're going against someone in the state, and here you go,
I need somebody you're not paying it. I want to So,
assuming we figure out how you sue and in what
circumstances you sue a bank, Yes, a demand letter has
to be made general rule, and you have to name
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the defendant that's the bank who did this, not any individual,
because you have no idea what individual did this.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Or didn't do this. So you make the demand and
you give it.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I'm sorry, So to whom it may concern is fine,
as far as just to not even to.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Whom may make a end to the bank straight Chase
Bank and whatever address you bank at, it doesn't really matter,
and I would look for the corporate address. But they
have to all be served personally. But the sheriff just
goes up to the front desk carry you go. You've
been served because there's no individual. Now you have to
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make a demand letter and you have to give them
a reasonable time. Okay, you have thirty days, you have
two weeks. You've followed up with another demand letter. That's
what I would do, though aren't the rules, but do
it as a matter of policy, and then you go
ahead and file the complaint. Uh, And that's it. But
it was your mistake, right? Or did they make the
mistake I noticed you made? Or a deposit was made
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into the wrong account? Did you put the wrong numbers
in there?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yes, and we we noticed it. We omitted a number
so it was nine numbers instead of ten.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well, what account has nine numbers? If the normal accounting
is or the number of deposit is ten numbers, doesn't
it take ten numbers?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But to go through.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Exactly? So I think I would just come back to
just because of that.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Right, all right?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, and they're and they're not and they're not giving
you any satisfaction is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Nope, okay, Well you also want to go up. You
also want to go up the corporate chain.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Also, you file the complaint with the FDIC on top
of that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You know that you told me to do that, and
they they referred me to a different government entity which
has probably been closed down since. But I did that,
and I haven't heard back.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
All Right, what government what government entity? What government entity
do they send that to?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I can't recall that. I started with FDIC and they
said yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And you, well whatever, there aren't any government entities that
have been shut down other than us AI D so
the financial ones. I think you're okay, but those are
the rules that what that's what you do isn't that
much fun?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Huh? Mike, Hello, Mike, welcome. What can I do for you?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Good morning?
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Yes, Bill, I'm glad I got to talk to you
in the sunset years of your career. I've been listening
since ninety three.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And you're all and you're almost dead. I got it, Okay, Mike,
what can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ready to retire?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Listen?
Speaker 7 (10:47):
I was the victim of a crime, fellony, brandishing assault. Uh,
get to the long story shortest, they city attorney offers
this guy plea to a lesser sentence for whatever. Do
I have any say so in that?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Generally, you know, yeah, they may have it.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
If it's a very serious crime, the DA will go
to the victim's family, usually if it's a high profile case,
and when they bring in but that's it's me yeah, no, no,
I understand you are the victim. What I'm saying is
they will go to the victim's family, and quite because
it's usually a murder or they'll go to the person
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who's been victimized you and talk about it and get
your feelings about it. But the reality is, no, no,
they're going to offer him a plea. They're going to
give him a plea. He is going to.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Take the plea, and you've got jack to say about it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's the way it works, unfortunately, and the guy's going
to do a lot less time, if any, especially in
this day and age.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
For what he did.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And when you say brandishing a wetman, what what exactly
did he brandish?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Well, I'm in Florida and everybody has right to carry
a good here, which is fine with me. But I
was gonna put his garbage back on his property. And
he come out of his car and pointed a little
weapon at me and said, Okay, well that's that's Frans.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, they're gonna give him.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
They're gonna they're gonna give him some kind of plea deal. Yeah,
they're gonna give him some kind of plea deal.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Because this is you're right.
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Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hello Eric, oh, let me see, let me get you
right on. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know what's happening here, Jacob, this is frozen.
Uh my computer here, so can you connect me to Eric? Okay,
there you go, Eric, Sorry about that. We're glitching all right.
What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
Morning Bille, Yes sir, Hey, good morning Bill. Yeah, thank you.
My father was he went to the hospital. He had
a fall. He was ninety seven. During the time that
he was there, they overdosed him with his seizure medication
and they didn't know that they did that because he
started becoming unconscious and nonresponsive. They couldn't figure out why.
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They blamed it on his COVID case that he got
when he was in the hospital as well, and then
they finally said, well, he's not taking medication orally, so
we're going to do it intravenously. So they started running
blood tests and they found out that the medication that
they gave him there he was way over the limit.
And so it took about ten ten days for him
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to come out of it, and he finally he finally
did become responsive. But now he's all screwed up. He's
he can't walk, Okay, the speech is slurred.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I noticed, And you're saying you can't get an
attorney to consider this case.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah, all right, yeah, Wow he's too old.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
How old is how old is he?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
He's ninety seven?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, that's the problem because it's going to be too
easy for them to defend saying, hey, he's ninety seven
and stuff happens at ninety seven, even though based on
what you said, it's a purely malpractice.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It is.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Based on your information.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
But the attorneys are saying, unfortunately, ninety seven is too
good of a defense, not legally, but you're going to
be in front of a jury, so you ask for
a bench trial. The insurance company is going to ask
for a jury trial. I think they can do that.
(16:08):
Certainly you have the right to do that. And there's
a defense. He's ninety seven years old. Did he have
any other medical issues going on?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
No, he's just a fall risk. He has a history,
and I know.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's yeah, it's just I can understand why. I can
understand why an attorney would do that. It's just it's
a lot of work. It's the same amount of work
to have a case that you have a fifty to
fifty chance of winning versus you have a ninety five
percent chance of winning.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so I guess how many attorneys have you gone to?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Six?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Six?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Have you're gone to handle on the law? Have you
gotten to handle on the law? Dot? Conye try that?
But I was thinking, okay, yeah, try that. You'll talk.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You'll probably talk to Mark, who handles a lot of
these phone calls.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Even though he and the other.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Attorneys don't do medical now because they all they specialize
is personal injury, which a lot of attorneys do, he
may be able to refer you and say I've gone
to six different attorneys, and I know him very well,
and he actually cares about people.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's a complete contradiction in terms lawyer equals care about people.
I've never seen it, and I've been a lawyer for
over forty years. But somewhere out in this world, somewhere
in a galaxy, far far away, there's a lawyer that
cares and you, yeah, and you get to chase them down.
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All right, Jacob, you're going to have to hang up.
Take care, You're going to have to hang up on
these calls because right now I'm frozen. Okay, let's bring
up Art Art with plumber problem. Hello, Art, welcome to
handle on the law.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call today. Sure, I have
this problem where I hired a plumber two years ago
that came to my house to repair replaced my septic
tank in my front yard, and his big diggers that
dug the hole he hit the Southern California gas line pipe.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Mm hmm. That's good.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
And so he made a call emergency call to them
and they came out and they were only here for
a couple hours, but they spiced the piece back together
and then everything worked fine. So then two years later,
I get this letter from a lawyer office stadium. They're
representing the gas company, and I owed five thousand for
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the damages so that pipe when the call was made
by the plumber and he's born.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm just curious before I get into it on the
five thousand dollars part, what exactly happened? Was it just
the line had to be replaced?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
He was just spliced back together? Yes, that is?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And how much and how much digging that it?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Did?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
They have to do.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The dickens?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
They didn't have to do any because my plumber had
already dug the hole.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
All right, got it? Okay, So here he is. Here's
the answer.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And as you said, he called, and he's the one
that caused it to.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Whatever damage.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You just hand over the five thousand dollars complaint or
demand him and go here. You you deal with the
gas company and you argue with the gas company as
to where it's five thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
What I emailed my letter to him, and he said
it's an exorbitant amount, and he won't it is.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
He's right, He's right, it is an exorbitant amount.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And you say, you get to argue that because it's
not my issue.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Can't the lawyers who are coming after me just taking
the small claim's court on this, Well.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
First of all, no, no, because they don't have a
contract with the plumber. It's on your property and so
you are the homeowner and they're not gonna lawyers don't
go after small they're not even allowed in small claims court.
Turn it over to him and he it's his issue.
He's in a better position to argue with the gas company,
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and so.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Let him argue that it's exorbitant.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And if he doesn't want to, then you tell him, well,
here's what's going to happen. The gas company is probably
going to sue me, and I'm going to counterclaim and
sue you, and you're still going to be in a
position to defend the issue.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So call him up.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
In my letter from the lawyers, they wanted my house
insurance for this liability.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You can argue that, and you turn it over to
your home insurance because because it's easy for the gas
company instead of dealing with was it exorbitant? Was it
not exorbitant? And you can turn it over to your
insurance company. But you're responsible for the deductible, and so
he's probably far more than the deductible. So say they
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negotiate and they think it's one thousand dollars and you're deductible,
it's one thousand dollars and you get to pay one
thousand dollars. So what I would do again is just
give it to the plumber and say, you've got to
deal with these people because it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They're wanting a big deal, and we don't want.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
A god awful legal mess because that's what's going to happen.
And the real downside, and here's what's probably going to happen,
is they're going to shut off the gas because you
owe this bill. Really yeah, and then at that moment
you sue for the five thousand dollars, or you sue
for the five thousand dollars now because you owe the
money and it's his fault, and go to small claims court.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Okay, those are your choices. I would probably do that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Just turn right around and say you figure it out,
and if not, I'm suing you for this bill. And
then he can argue it is exorbitant, and you say
that that's what they sent me, that's the bill.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
So let's purpose to five thousand dollars bond that's a
plumber has.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's the purpose for it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
But but but but it's for massive damage usually and
he's not gonna put in for his bond, and you
can put in for it. But I think way before
any bond is paid, you're gonna they're gonna talk about
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Speaker 2 (22:33):
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
The Pain Game Podcast. Jim, Hello, Jim, you're up. Welcome
to handle on the law.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Hi, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
Now, my question is I just did a deposition because
I'm a supervisor and somebody is claiming that another employee
had sexually harassed her and she never brought anything to me, but.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
She is claiming that I should have done something, and
I mean she if it was never brought to me,
how was I supposed to know? And my question is
is how come when I did the deposition, they are
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always bringing the question to me, like three or four
times throughout the deposition, the exact same question.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Right there are a good question, and it happens all
the time. And I mean, they've you three answers and
probably all of them work. Let's start with attorneys or
sleeves balls and what they do is they charged by
the hour. Okay, that's number one, and they're looking at
the hours. This may be a contingency case, so that
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one's off the table. The other one is they want
to catch you in some kind of either a lie
or a contradiction and bring that up because if you
are a witness that they want, or you're the defendant,
then this sounds.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like the case.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
What they want to do is catch you and you
say something, so a trial they literally bring up the
deposition and say, Jim, you said that on March twelfth,
this happened, and now you're saying that it didn't happen,
or it happened on March fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Which one is it?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Jim, you clearly don't understand or you don't remember what happened.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's another reason.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
They do it. It's to contradict you. Also to get
you on the defensive where you're going. Happens all the time,
So that's it. That's what they're going to do. And
they're going to ask the question again and again and again,
and if you turn out you answer the question basically
the same. There's a little leeway. You know March twelfth,
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actually maybe it was mid March, you know that sort
of thing, or I don't remember the exact date, but
I remember what happened. Because people go back and they
don't remember the date. Something happens that they don't mark down,
Oh it's this day. They just remember what happened or
what didn't happen. So that's the reason that it's done.
And you're gonna anybody else is going to see they
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have the same thing. I've been deposed, and I've been
deposed for eight hours at a time over a case.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And I'm sorry, but no, it happens. It happened.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I won the case, so I'm fine. But they caught
me in a couple of contradictions. Bill, you said this date,
and here's the email that shows another date, and you go, yeah,
I don't remember specifically, and to the best of my knowledge,
this is the way it happened.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
No jury or judge is going to hold that against me.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
They just want to catch They wanted to catch me
in an outright lie.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
So yeah, I'm just wondering what's the difference between guessing,
because they want you to your best recollection, and now, what's.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The difference between guessing and what and what?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Jim guessing and knowing?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, here's the difference, you know, the difference between I
will tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
The difference between guessing and knowing is the difference between
guessing and knowing.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And what you're going to be asked to do is
not to guess.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Do not guess to the best of your knowledge X,
this happened and you say, I don't remember specifically, but
to the best of my knowledge, this.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Is what happened. And the attorney's going to say, are
you guessing?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't want any guessing, because if you are guessing,
then the argument is going to be, if you're guessing
about this, are you aren't you guessing about what happened
and you really don't know?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay, all right, there we go. That's enough of that.
I don't want to get into it, all right.
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Speaker 2 (29:30):
This is handle on the law
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. And
if you've ever thought of calling in, now is the time. Also,
the last few weeks, I have not been doing my
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there should be a pent up demand.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Let me see how many lines I'm jammed here? One
two three.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
No phone calls in yet, eight hundred five two zero
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
A couple, but you could tell instantly.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Our screener, Richie can tell if they're worthwhile or not. Okay,
this is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you have absolutely no case. There is a
lawsuit going on. And this is a Donald Trump story,
(00:55):
not that we don't do these on a regular basis,
but this is the philosophy that Donald Trump has had
since the days he went into business and was a
developer in New York. And that is real simple. You
hit him, he hits you back twice as hard, twice
as long. And here is the case in point. This
(01:17):
is his lawsuit against CBS. Sixty minute interview that CBS
did with Kamala Harris, and it was a pretty positive
interview and there was editing involved as there always is
what the Trump organization is saying to CBS in this
(01:39):
lawsuit for twenty billion dollars in damages, is you edited
that Kamala Harris interview to make her look good to
making me look bad, which I don't quite understand. But effectively,
you were unfair. You were not objective about how away
(02:01):
you were handling both those campaigns, and you edited Kamala
Harris's interview, didn't put in any of her negative statements
or her groping for words or somehow going off on
a tangent. Sounds like this show, doesn't it? And CBS
is saying, no, we didn't. Now, the reality is whenever
(02:23):
there's a sixty minute interview.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
That is made. And I went.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Back in the eighties, was interviewed by sixty minutes on
a surrogacy story because when surrogacy broke and that was
my specialty. I was interviewed for a segment on sixty
minutes and the reporter sat down with me and I
was probably two hours, three hours of being interviewed question
(02:51):
after question. They ended up using about three minutes on
the story. And you can imagine how much editing was done. Now,
if you were, if I were to attack CBS. CBS
would say, yes, we edited, but we didn't change anything substantially.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It's the same story.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And your views, your take on this are exactly the same.
That's what they're saying about this Kamala Harris interview. So
what Trump is saying, we want the raw material, we
want all of it, and we'll see how much editing
you really did. Well, every organization that film's interviews edits.
(03:35):
Now do they edit to the detriment? Do they edit
to the positive? That's a different issue, but they edit.
And the other thing is twenty billion dollars in damages
Trump won. What kind of damages do you have? You
sixty minutes produced a piece that was unfair, that was
(03:57):
totally biased.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Therefore I lost the race. No, I won the race.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So I don't understand at all how he is considered.
I can understand the lawsuit because once again you just
attack the mainstream media because it's all fake news. But
come on, that's a tough one, all right. Phone calls Steve,
welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Hello Steve, Hello, Yes, sir, what can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I lost a small claims case against the service provider.
I was wanting to know about the specifications for like
filing a motion to reconsider and or appeal. I can
either do one or both one after the other. But
the reconsideration the specifics. I think it's you either have
to have new evidence and or maybe not necessarily agreeing
(04:55):
with the ruling that the judge kind of missed something
within the ruling. He doesn't even cite it, which was
really the primary argument, and he totally there's nothing in
the ruling about it.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Okay, And you want to know what to do about it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, the ruling is he found that the defendant was
there was no damages caused.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I understand, and you were able to prove there were damages.
I get that. How much money were you suing for Steve?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Total was about thirty six hundred thirty eight hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, okay, let me tell you the reality of appealing it.
Nothing ever happens because what the appeals are going to say,
what the appeal always says is that the judge, we
may disagree. This is typical appeal language. We may disagree,
(05:47):
but it's up to the judge to consider or not
consider evidence.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
So you lost. That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
That's small claims court. It's that's the craziness the small
claims court. I mean, it bounces all over the place,
and there really isn't any rules of evidence. And you
can't argue that this shouldn't, that this piece of evidence
should not be admitted, or this statement should not.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's the wild West.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And either the judge disliked you or the judge just
didn't care or didn't pay attention.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's so funny because I noticed that, Yeah, the judge
was this wasn't the original judge that was assigned to
the case. And that's another question in a small claims case,
is the judge that's assigned actually does he actually read
the complaint and or any other motions that were found.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Who knows, no idea, But yeah, the appeals do nothing.
It's really distressing, especially if you lose the case and
you shouldn't have lost. Uh, And that happens all the time. Chris, Hello, Chris,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Good morning Bill. Yeah, all right, yea, I talked to you.
I talked you about two weeks ago and I got
cut off, but you had given me some information on
a small claims in case. I was going to file
against Chase Bank for a deposit.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I had a.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Couple questions regarding the I know you have to have
a demand letter that you must present before filing a
small claims case. So one question is, because I'm trying
to file against such a large corporation, do I have
to put a name on the demand letter? And how
long a time do I give them? Like a month?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, I understand, And so we start with I don't
know about the rules of filing against a bank that
is a national bank, and there are all kinds of
rules involved in that because there is there are federal
statutes involved.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
This is not as simple.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're going against someone in the state, and here you go,
I need somebody you're not paying it. I want to So,
assuming we figure out how you sue and in what
circumstances you sue a bank, Yes, a demand letter has
to be made general rule, and you have to name
(08:10):
the defendant that's the bank who did this, not any individual,
because you have no idea what individual did this.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Or didn't do this. So you make the demand and
you give it.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I'm sorry, So to whom it may concern is fine,
as far as just to not even to.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Whom may make a end to the bank straight Chase
Bank and whatever address you bank at, it doesn't really matter,
and I would look for the corporate address. But they
have to all be served personally. But the sheriff just
goes up to the front desk carry you go. You've
been served because there's no individual. Now you have to
(08:50):
make a demand letter and you have to give them
a reasonable time. Okay, you have thirty days, you have
two weeks. You've followed up with another demand letter. That's
what I would do, though aren't the rules, but do
it as a matter of policy, and then you go
ahead and file the complaint. Uh, And that's it. But
it was your mistake, right? Or did they make the
mistake I noticed you made? Or a deposit was made
(09:12):
into the wrong account? Did you put the wrong numbers
in there?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yes, and we we noticed it. We omitted a number
so it was nine numbers instead of ten.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Well, what account has nine numbers? If the normal accounting
is or the number of deposit is ten numbers, doesn't
it take ten numbers?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
But to go through.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Exactly? So I think I would just come back to
just because of that.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Right, all right?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, and they're and they're not and they're not giving
you any satisfaction is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Nope, okay, Well you also want to go up. You
also want to go up the corporate chain.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Also, you file the complaint with the FDIC on top
of that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You know that you told me to do that, and
they they referred me to a different government entity which
has probably been closed down since. But I did that,
and I haven't heard back.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
All Right, what government what government entity? What government entity
do they send that to?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I can't recall that. I started with FDIC and they
said yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And you, well whatever, there aren't any government entities that
have been shut down other than us AI D so
the financial ones. I think you're okay, but those are
the rules that what that's what you do isn't that
much fun?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Huh? Mike, Hello, Mike, welcome. What can I do for you?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Good morning?
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Yes, Bill, I'm glad I got to talk to you
in the sunset years of your career. I've been listening
since ninety three.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And you're all and you're almost dead. I got it, Okay, Mike,
what can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ready to retire?
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Listen?
Speaker 7 (10:47):
I was the victim of a crime, fellony, brandishing assault. Uh,
get to the long story shortest, they city attorney offers
this guy plea to a lesser sentence for whatever. Do
I have any say so in that?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Generally, you know, yeah, they may have it.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
If it's a very serious crime, the DA will go
to the victim's family, usually if it's a high profile case,
and when they bring in but that's it's me yeah, no, no,
I understand you are the victim. What I'm saying is
they will go to the victim's family, and quite because
it's usually a murder or they'll go to the person
(11:31):
who's been victimized you and talk about it and get
your feelings about it. But the reality is, no, no,
they're going to offer him a plea. They're going to
give him a plea. He is going to.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Take the plea, and you've got jack to say about it.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's the way it works, unfortunately, and the guy's going
to do a lot less time, if any, especially in
this day and age.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
For what he did.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And when you say brandishing a wetman, what what exactly
did he brandish?
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Well, I'm in Florida and everybody has right to carry
a good here, which is fine with me. But I
was gonna put his garbage back on his property. And
he come out of his car and pointed a little
weapon at me and said, Okay, well that's that's Frans.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, they're gonna give him.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
They're gonna they're gonna give him some kind of plea deal. Yeah,
they're gonna give him some kind of plea deal.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Because this is you're right.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Florida is a different a whole different state. Hey, let
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money you're gonna make. And everybody wants that. And everything
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Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hello Eric, oh, let me see, let me get you
right on. Here we go.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know what's happening here, Jacob, this is frozen.
Uh my computer here, so can you connect me to Eric? Okay,
there you go, Eric, Sorry about that. We're glitching all right.
What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
Morning Bille, Yes sir, Hey, good morning Bill. Yeah, thank you.
My father was he went to the hospital. He had
a fall. He was ninety seven. During the time that
he was there, they overdosed him with his seizure medication
and they didn't know that they did that because he
started becoming unconscious and nonresponsive. They couldn't figure out why.
(14:39):
They blamed it on his COVID case that he got
when he was in the hospital as well, and then
they finally said, well, he's not taking medication orally, so
we're going to do it intravenously. So they started running
blood tests and they found out that the medication that
they gave him there he was way over the limit.
And so it took about ten ten days for him
(14:59):
to come out of it, and he finally he finally
did become responsive. But now he's all screwed up. He's
he can't walk, Okay, the speech is slurred.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And I noticed, And you're saying you can't get an
attorney to consider this case.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Yeah, all right, yeah, Wow he's too old.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
How old is how old is he?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
He's ninety seven?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, that's the problem because it's going to be too
easy for them to defend saying, hey, he's ninety seven
and stuff happens at ninety seven, even though based on
what you said, it's a purely malpractice.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
It is.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Based on your information.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
But the attorneys are saying, unfortunately, ninety seven is too
good of a defense, not legally, but you're going to
be in front of a jury, so you ask for
a bench trial. The insurance company is going to ask
for a jury trial. I think they can do that.
(16:08):
Certainly you have the right to do that. And there's
a defense. He's ninety seven years old. Did he have
any other medical issues going on?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
No, he's just a fall risk. He has a history,
and I know.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's yeah, it's just I can understand why. I can
understand why an attorney would do that. It's just it's
a lot of work. It's the same amount of work
to have a case that you have a fifty to
fifty chance of winning versus you have a ninety five
percent chance of winning.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so I guess how many attorneys have you gone to?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Six?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Six?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Have you're gone to handle on the law? Have you
gotten to handle on the law? Dot? Conye try that?
But I was thinking, okay, yeah, try that. You'll talk.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You'll probably talk to Mark, who handles a lot of
these phone calls.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Even though he and the other.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Attorneys don't do medical now because they all they specialize
is personal injury, which a lot of attorneys do, he
may be able to refer you and say I've gone
to six different attorneys, and I know him very well,
and he actually cares about people.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's a complete contradiction in terms lawyer equals care about people.
I've never seen it, and I've been a lawyer for
over forty years. But somewhere out in this world, somewhere
in a galaxy, far far away, there's a lawyer that
cares and you, yeah, and you get to chase them down.
(17:38):
All right, Jacob, you're going to have to hang up.
Take care, You're going to have to hang up on
these calls because right now I'm frozen. Okay, let's bring
up Art Art with plumber problem. Hello, Art, welcome to
handle on the law.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call today. Sure, I have
this problem where I hired a plumber two years ago
that came to my house to repair replaced my septic
tank in my front yard, and his big diggers that
dug the hole he hit the Southern California gas line pipe.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Mm hmm. That's good.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
And so he made a call emergency call to them
and they came out and they were only here for
a couple hours, but they spiced the piece back together
and then everything worked fine. So then two years later,
I get this letter from a lawyer office stadium. They're
representing the gas company, and I owed five thousand for
(18:36):
the damages so that pipe when the call was made
by the plumber and he's born.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm just curious before I get into it on the
five thousand dollars part, what exactly happened? Was it just
the line had to be replaced?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
He was just spliced back together? Yes, that is?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And how much and how much digging that it?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Did?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
They have to do.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
The dickens?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
They didn't have to do any because my plumber had
already dug the hole.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
All right, got it? Okay, So here he is. Here's
the answer.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And as you said, he called, and he's the one
that caused it to.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Whatever damage.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You just hand over the five thousand dollars complaint or
demand him and go here. You you deal with the
gas company and you argue with the gas company as
to where it's five thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
What I emailed my letter to him, and he said
it's an exorbitant amount, and he won't it is.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
He's right, He's right, it is an exorbitant amount.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And you say, you get to argue that because it's
not my issue.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Can't the lawyers who are coming after me just taking
the small claim's court on this, Well.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
First of all, no, no, because they don't have a
contract with the plumber. It's on your property and so
you are the homeowner and they're not gonna lawyers don't
go after small they're not even allowed in small claims court.
Turn it over to him and he it's his issue.
He's in a better position to argue with the gas company,
(20:12):
and so.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Let him argue that it's exorbitant.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And if he doesn't want to, then you tell him, well,
here's what's going to happen. The gas company is probably
going to sue me, and I'm going to counterclaim and
sue you, and you're still going to be in a
position to defend the issue.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So call him up.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
In my letter from the lawyers, they wanted my house
insurance for this liability.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You can argue that, and you turn it over to
your home insurance because because it's easy for the gas
company instead of dealing with was it exorbitant? Was it
not exorbitant? And you can turn it over to your
insurance company. But you're responsible for the deductible, and so
he's probably far more than the deductible. So say they
(21:00):
negotiate and they think it's one thousand dollars and you're deductible,
it's one thousand dollars and you get to pay one
thousand dollars. So what I would do again is just
give it to the plumber and say, you've got to
deal with these people because it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
They're wanting a big deal, and we don't want.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
A god awful legal mess because that's what's going to happen.
And the real downside, and here's what's probably going to happen,
is they're going to shut off the gas because you
owe this bill. Really yeah, and then at that moment
you sue for the five thousand dollars, or you sue
for the five thousand dollars now because you owe the
money and it's his fault, and go to small claims court.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Okay, those are your choices. I would probably do that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Just turn right around and say you figure it out,
and if not, I'm suing you for this bill. And
then he can argue it is exorbitant, and you say
that that's what they sent me, that's the bill.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
So let's purpose to five thousand dollars bond that's a
plumber has.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's the purpose for it.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
But but but but it's for massive damage usually and
he's not gonna put in for his bond, and you
can put in for it. But I think way before
any bond is paid, you're gonna they're gonna talk about
what's going on here. Okay, let me talk about The
Pain Game. And The Pain Game is a podcast that
(22:27):
is hosted by someone very very close to me, like
my wife.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And the reason I talk about it, number.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
One is because it really helps people. It's about people
in pain, and I really admire this. I mean, I
have a great time. She's pretty serious about this, although
she has a great time. And it's a podcast about
pain obviously, and trauma and helping people who are in pain,
know people that are in pain, treating people.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That are in pain, and trauma has a lot to
do with it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
And boy is she good because she suffers pain twenty
four to seven and I'm sitting there and I don't
know what to do. I know, my heart goes out
and I feel helpless most of the time. So in
the Pain Game podcast, and I have an episode with her.
In the podcast, you'll see what you can do about pain,
(23:20):
and it really is about giving pain a purpose. I
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Speaker 2 (23:34):
The Pain Game Podcast. Jim, Hello, Jim, you're up. Welcome
to handle on the law.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
Hi, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
Now, my question is I just did a deposition because
I'm a supervisor and somebody is claiming that another employee
had sexually harassed her and she never brought anything to me, but.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
She is claiming that I should have done something, and
I mean she if it was never brought to me,
how was I supposed to know? And my question is
is how come when I did the deposition, they are
(24:25):
always bringing the question to me, like three or four
times throughout the deposition, the exact same question.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Right there are a good question, and it happens all
the time. And I mean, they've you three answers and
probably all of them work. Let's start with attorneys or
sleeves balls and what they do is they charged by
the hour. Okay, that's number one, and they're looking at
the hours. This may be a contingency case, so that
(24:54):
one's off the table. The other one is they want
to catch you in some kind of either a lie
or a contradiction and bring that up because if you
are a witness that they want, or you're the defendant,
then this sounds.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like the case.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
What they want to do is catch you and you
say something, so a trial they literally bring up the
deposition and say, Jim, you said that on March twelfth,
this happened, and now you're saying that it didn't happen,
or it happened on March fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Which one is it?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Jim, you clearly don't understand or you don't remember what happened.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's another reason.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
They do it. It's to contradict you. Also to get
you on the defensive where you're going. Happens all the time,
So that's it. That's what they're going to do. And
they're going to ask the question again and again and again,
and if you turn out you answer the question basically
the same. There's a little leeway. You know March twelfth,
(26:06):
actually maybe it was mid March, you know that sort
of thing, or I don't remember the exact date, but
I remember what happened. Because people go back and they
don't remember the date. Something happens that they don't mark down,
Oh it's this day. They just remember what happened or
what didn't happen. So that's the reason that it's done.
And you're gonna anybody else is going to see they
(26:28):
have the same thing. I've been deposed, and I've been
deposed for eight hours at a time over a case.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And I'm sorry, but no, it happens. It happened.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I won the case, so I'm fine. But they caught
me in a couple of contradictions. Bill, you said this date,
and here's the email that shows another date, and you go, yeah,
I don't remember specifically, and to the best of my knowledge,
this is the way it happened.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
No jury or judge is going to hold that against me.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
They just want to catch They wanted to catch me
in an outright lie.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
So yeah, I'm just wondering what's the difference between guessing,
because they want you to your best recollection, and now, what's.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The difference between guessing and what and what?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Jim guessing and knowing?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, here's the difference, you know, the difference between I
will tell you.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'll tell you right now.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
The difference between guessing and knowing is the difference between
guessing and knowing.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And what you're going to be asked to do is
not to guess.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Do not guess to the best of your knowledge X,
this happened and you say, I don't remember specifically, but
to the best of my knowledge, this.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Is what happened. And the attorney's going to say, are
you guessing?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't want any guessing, because if you are guessing,
then the argument is going to be, if you're guessing
about this, are you aren't you guessing about what happened
and you really don't know?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Okay, all right, there we go. That's enough of that.
I don't want to get into it, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Before we finish up for the hour, I want to
talk to you about the yuch on your tongue. You know,
when you brush your teeth in the morning and it smells,
it's horrible. Yeah, the mirror actually starts waving. A lot
of people don't realize that your tongue also is a
big part of bad breath because your taste BA has
(28:34):
having these little mushrooms. That's what they're about and food
gets in there and it stays in there, and brushing
teeth doesn't take care of that. So here is what
Zelman's is doing. Until the end of the month, they
are offering for free. This is what you get if
you buy a three pack of Zelman's Minty Mouthmans, which
of course takes care of your bad breath both in
(28:55):
your mouth and in your gut where you either chew
on by into those little capsulors to swallow them. You're
going to get a tongue scraper and boy.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That really helps.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
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Speaker 2 (29:30):
This is handle on the law
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