Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings kf I AM six forty the Bill Handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio f comebody, everybody, Bill Handle.
Here is a Saturday morning. Oh what a day today.
The big parade going on to Washington, d C. Two
hundred and fifty years of celebration of the existence of
(00:25):
the US Army and the United States, and the US
Army in the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Good, good, redundancy.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And simultaneously, coincidentally, it's President Trump's birthday, so it's a
double hit for the president. Massive parade in Washington, to
see thousands of troops, tanks and armored personnel, carrier and missiles,
and yeah, it's going to look that way, Paul rand
who is a Senator from Kentucky said, and when asked
(00:53):
about it, would he had voted for paying for it,
which he didn't, said that he's not a big fan
of co stepping soldiers marching down Constitution happened.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I thought it was kind of funny, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And then the demonstration is going on, the no Kings
demonstrations going on all over the country, so it's it's.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Going to be a hell of a day. In the meantime,
why don't we do what we do every.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Saturday morning, and that is I give you marginal horrible
legal advice. Occasionally good legal advice, but only when it's
not a good call on.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The number here eight hundred five two zero one five
three four, eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
And as at this point, if you've ever listened to
the show, no surprise that this is the first hour.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It is the top of the first hour, which.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Means it takes a little bit of time to get rolling,
and lines are generally open, and they are we have
plenty of line open, plenty of lines open for advice.
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four, eight
hundred five to two zero one five three four. This
(02:09):
is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where I
tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You have absolutely no case when it's good for me.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
There is a former Orange County Supervisor southern California. Orange
County Supervisor by the name of Andrew Doe is Vietnamese
and he was elected as supervisor in from the Vietnamese community. Now,
when he was running for supervisor, I embedded myself in
(02:40):
his campaign to follow his campaign because I wanted a
report on the Orange county supervisor's race, and.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Just in general politics.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I've never embedded myself in a campaign to try to
understand what's going on, both in terms of the political
ads and the contacts and the fundraisers. I mean, I
knew all about it from a distance, but inside the campaign,
and he was very kind. You let me do that,
and I thought he was the greatest guy in the world.
In the meantime, it looks like he accepted more than
(03:14):
five hundred thousand dollars in bribes for directing and voting
a favor of more than ten million dollars in COVID
pandemic relief funds to a charity that was affiliated with
one of his daughters. It's a nonprofit called the Viat
America Society. Millions of dollars from the county, his daughter
(03:38):
purchased a million dollar home. After officials said that he
and his daughter enriched themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This is using taxpayer funds.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And in the quote now he pled guilty of this,
and the prosecutor says as a county supervisor, Andrew Doe
transformed the County of Orange into an ATM, a veil
GiB to his insiders, his loved ones, and himself withdrawing
millions of dollars to buy houses, lavish dinners, expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Wine while the elderly.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
This money was for the elderly, This money was for
the sick, This money was for the vulnerable. And it's
not just ripping off businesses. It's not a Ponzi scheme.
It is taking money from elderly people who desperately needed
the money.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And that is pretty bad, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So he has pled guilty and he's going down for
a very long time. The daughter forfeited the house, they took,
they took assets, and it's just horrific. And I thought
he was a great guy. I really did all right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Phone calls, Here we go, Matthew, Hello, Matthew, welcome, Hey Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I've been struggling with a gambling addiction in the last
several years, and they got two major problems because of it.
I'm hoping to get to one maybe two. I enter
one of those equity sharing programs, you know, or you
take out a loan out against your mortgage and then
you've got to pay it back at high interest rates. Okay,
(05:15):
I don't you know right now, if I was able
to pay it back, I borrowed like four thirty five thousand,
they want like one to fifty.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now, when you borrowed, you borrowed, way, you borrowed five thousand,
they want one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, No, I borrowed thirty five thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh and they wont one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Okay now now, but you know, obviously if the property increases,
that goes up. I don't you know, I'm not trying
to get out of the agreement. I just want to
know if there's a way to drop that interest rate.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, you call them up, and it's real simple.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You start negotiating with the mortgage holder, the person who's
holding or the company who's holding the paper.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Now legal, there's no way you're out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
However, if you can't pay it, you can't pay it,
and so you know you possible you lose your house,
you declare bankruptcy if you can't pay it back, and
if you don't have any way to pay it back,
that gets very difficult. But you know, hopefully you call
someone hopefully who is has an addiction problem, had one,
(06:23):
has a family member who had an addiction problem, and.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Just say, hey, work with me. Please work with me.
This is not a legal issue, Matthew's.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You've got nothing to stand on as far as legally,
so there's no attorneys involved.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I don't know of any programs it'll get you out.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Of this, even if even if a judge gives you
all the benefit of the doubt and feels for you
and understands.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't think a judge could get you out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Unless you were to wait for a lawsuit and then
you have to defend yourself, for example, a foreclosure lawsuits
filed and for which you're gonna lose, unless the judge
holds that initially there was fraud involved, that there's misrepresentation
the loan was fraudulent. But based on what you say
(07:12):
mafter you it doesn't sound like it was much fraud.
It just sounds like, you know, you were caught up
in this gambling addiction. You needed money, and you borrowed
a ton of money against your house, and hey, you
know that's that's your problem legally. So it's one of
those where you beg and you throw yourself on the
mercy of the court, throw yourself onto the sword, and do.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
A lot of whimpering. A lot of whimpering. Also very
it helps. Let me give you some advice.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It helps that you get a fake doctor's note that
you're dying of cancer, that your dog, your best dog,
just died, your blind and a seeing eye dog, that
you had died very strong, you were a vet and
you lost your arm.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Just try to do what you can to beg them.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Obviously, I'm getting a little red and a little hyperbolic,
but a hyperbolic, but that's that's the way I would.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Go, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And and you know I understand the gambling addiction. You
know my philosophy. As you wake up in the morning,
you gamble all day long. It's that simple. I've been
telling you about Zelman's now for I don't know how
many months, and I am so involved and both emotionally
and well. These people who have Zelmans are friends of
mine for thirty years. And you know, they're the mint
(08:28):
that's far more than a mint, both in your mouth
with a minty coating and then you swallow or bite
into the little capsules and it gets to work in
your gut. Here is their offer, and until July fourth,
you buy a five pack of Zelmans and you get
twenty percent off five pack of Zelman's twenty percent off.
That's a hell of a bargain. Go to Zelmans E
(08:49):
L M I N S. Zelmans dot com slash kfi
Zelmans dot com slash kfi.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
This is KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This is handle on the law KYF I am six
forty Bill, handle here on a Saturday morning. Eight hundred
five two zero one five three four eight hundred five
two zero one five three four Welcome back. Handle on
the Law. Marginal Legal Advice. Lindsay, Hello, Lindsay.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Hi Bill, how are you down this morning?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Excellent? Okay? What can we do for you? Or what
can I do?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Say? So?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
My question is about conflict of interest?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yes, okay, so okay.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I have filed a small claims lawsuit in Oklahoma and
the defendants attorney is the same one that my parents
have used to fight like the child's abuse accusations, I
mean when I was seventeen. I've also I've often asked myself, like,
if I was so bad, why did my parents want
me there so bad? Well, now that I'm an adult,
I realized it was because they didn't want me to talk.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But anyway, OKAYNIBICTHI this was how how long ago did
the attorney represent your folks?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well representing them now? Oh now okay, hey, let me
ask you a quick question. Small claim suit and I
don't know obviously I don't live in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Can you even bring an attorney to small claims? Because
you certainly can't in California.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Okay, So what they've done is they've hired the attorney,
and so now they because the limit is ten thousand dollars,
but it's seventy like, if you do more than seventy
five hundred, then the defendant can escalate it to the
next level court.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh, I see, just make a okay, got it? All right?
And you can do that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yes, the defendant can make a motion to kick it
up to superior court. And that's what happened. And there's
an attorney.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
How much is suing for it?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Lindsay ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, And they hired a lawyer for that, all right.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
So the so he's willing to pay the lawyer fifty
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, it's one of those Yeah, I know, I get that. No,
I get that, lindsay.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The attorney representing him having represented your parents and still
representing your parents.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, he's conflicted up to his eyeballs.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Of course he is, Lindsay. And you simply, here's you do.
You make a motion to have tossed, okay, and and
you asked, and you asked for sanctions from the court
to pay for it. Because for the attorney representing that
that defendant while representing your parents is completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean, I can't think of a clearer conflict. So
you go in, Yeah, bring a lawyer in. You can
do it yourself if you want, because what's he going
to say? There is no conflict. You would have to
you would have to waive the conflict, and so would.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think the defendant. Both of you have the ability
to toss this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So yeah, talk to a lawyer, toss it, you know,
And then this is Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You can pay your lawyer with like sides of bacon,
can't you.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Now Everyone that I've talked to wants cash money.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And lawyer's money cash money. That's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, it's so much easier with like sides of bacon
and hogs and you know, volunteering to cut firewood or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, you may have to pay.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Up front, or you can find someone who would do it.
I think sanctions are going to fly. I do believe
that the court is going to pay force the other side,
the lawyer, to pay your attorney's fees. But it's not
a complicated motion at all. It may it cost you
a little bit of money, but I would do it.
That's the way you get the lawyer out. It's very
very simple on that one.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Chris, Hello, Chris, welcome.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Hello, and thanks for your show. So I'm involved in
a class action suit against a TV maker and the
case was settled. The court assigned distribution that signs to
a private company in Milwaukee, and they have danced around
and lied many times, and they haven't given me my money,
I know, one hundred dollars. But even more important, I
(12:43):
found out that the same company is handling a suit
against LADWP. So I just wanted people to be aware
of this. And also, if you know a way that
I can.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Get yeah, you contact you know how you get it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You contact the law firm that represented the class and
you call them up and go, hey, I want to
talk to one of the lawyers who was assigned to
this class action lawsuit. The settlement was the settlement was
figured out? How come money isn't being distributed?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I did that?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And would the lawyers say nothing?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
They didn't return my calls?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh all right, all right then, oh right, but the
lawyer is the lawyer represents you because you're part of
the class. All right, Complain to the state bar. Now
we're talking about a complaint to the state bar. All right,
that's what you can end. But at least you do
it on your own. There's a form that you fill out.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's really easy. What did the lawyer do?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You check boxes where you know, misrepresentation, embezzlement, sex with animals?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean, you know whatever the box is.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you simply complain to the state bar. I mean,
that's that's all I would do, because if they're ignoring
you and one.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hundred dollars, how far are you going to go for
one hundred dollars?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Well, if I hadn't heard about the DWP, I probably
would have dropped it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well, by the way, are you a DWP defendant or
a plaintiff? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
On top of it? And what do you think you're
owed on the DWP side?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I don't know, And I really don't care, but there
was a number on them. I didn't even know this
existed until a friend showed me a check.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
She'd yeah, no, that's what happens. Your people are part
of the class and they don't even know it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
What was.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
On the DWP on the bill gives you a phone
number to call. I did that, left a message, of course,
got nothing back.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, no, I mean trying to call.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, you can't call today and you get menus or
I have a problem, Yeah, I have a problem with
my solar thing going on, and.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I get yes.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I'd like to find a way to let the court
itself know the administrator who assigned the case to that
private company, so they know there's all right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well you try and find out who, find out who
it is and uh, you know, leave it, but write
an email to uh the I assume it was an
administrator made the decision.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It wasn't a judge.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Well, the one thing I was told by the court,
a law firm that had been a handling it said
the cases are assigned to by a court administrator. Now
I did find out there is such an animal, but
haven't been able to Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Let me ask, Okay, let me let me answer the question.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You can if you want just literally go crazy for
one hundred bucks and whatever you get. It depends on
how involved you're going to get. Can you do something
about it? Yeah, you got to hire a lawyer. That's
thousands of dollars, so you know, at some point you're
absolutely right. But at some point, you know, what are
you gonna do for one hundred bucks? It's not like
you lost one hundred dollars.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
The main thing is that it doesn't just affect me.
It affects many thousands.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What do you care?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, well, all right, yeah, it affects very much a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I care. I care. I want to save a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Please now join the Peace Corps, you know, and go
to Africa someplace. Well, all right, for a I take break,
a quick word about your business, and I'm going to
give you a way to make your business. If you
do two million dollars or more a year, a whole
lot more efficient, I mean a lot more efficient.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Today it is very difficult to do business.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Getting it, doing it, keeping it, making money profits. So
let me suggest visiting NetSuite dot com slash handle. NetSuite
is in suites office suites NetSuite dot com slash handle
is a cloud the number one cloud business management system
and it brings accounting and financial management and inventory. If
you do that, I do and hr all together, so
(16:36):
the information is there at a moment, it's real time.
It just makes you more efficient and they'll explain why
I don't have time to deal with this right now,
and explain all the advantages.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But there are a lot of them, so you can.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
You can download the free cfo's Guide to AI and
Machine Learning. See if NetSuite works for you, and there's
no charge for that. Download go to nets slash handle.
Net Suite again is an office suite NetSuite dot com
slash handle.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
This is Handle on the Law. You're listening to Bill
Handle on demand from KF I am six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
KFI Handle here on a Saturday morning with a legal show.
Phone number eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
We have lines open eight hundred five two zero one
five three four.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
More Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice. William, easy
name to remember, Hello William.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Good morning, Yes, sir, long time listener, first time caller.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I appreciate it?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yes, so I have a question about ice. Hi own
the business. I've got about sixty employees, and I'm wondering
if our chilly friends happened to show up at my
front desk and I obligated to let them in. I
should add something. I don't just own the business. I
also own the land that it sits on and around it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
The fact is it's your business and they're not going
They're not going after the land. They're going after the
people that work for you. So it doesn't matter whether
you least they land or not. Now this gets interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
What do you do? What do you manufacture? Or what
business are you in?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
William H We are we are. We are in a
manufacturing business and it's a it's a private and I
really don't want to get into too much detail for
obvious reasons. We're in Orange County. The reason this came
up is about a mile away, there was a costco
and they happen to visit there as well as a
home depot. So it's it's it's been around, they're there.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh, let me tell you, I live in a gated community.
Uh and uh I happened to be live. I live
about a mile away from a dump where you know,
a lot of construction people drop off the uh you know,
their construction debris. And I went out the other day
on the major street leading to it, which is the
street is about a quarter of a mile from me.
(18:58):
There were the ice trucks, you know, the suburbans with
the lights flashing. Oh it was pleasant. So yeah, I
get it. Okay, here's the bottom line. If I shows
up and they come to your door and say I
want to go in there, or any agent east, you
can say, show me a warrant. They cannot come into
(19:21):
your business without a warrant.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's for starters. However, yeah, you can't deny him. But
let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You're dealing with the Trump administration, okay, and this is
not an administration that really follows the letter or the
spirit of the law when it comes to this sort
of thing. I mean, one of the things that Trump
ran on and this was not just him blowing smoke.
He believes to the depths of his soul in terms
(19:52):
of the illegal migration and illegal migrant issue. So you
can say, no, now do you well, you know, what
do they do? You know, do they wait outside for
people coming out.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Of the building.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Do you do You set up cots and set up
an emergency shelter basically what they call it a Red
Cross shelter inside sanctuary. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, call
it a sanctuary these folks, and see what happens. And
they arrescue for interference with a federal agent. Legally nothing,
(20:31):
legally nothing. And the point is, and I think you know,
when you don't want to share where exactly and what
you manufacture because you can be identified, that is the
point in southern California, because so much of the labor
force is illegal migrants.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I mean the agriculture.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Industry eighty percent, manufacturing a huge percentage, construction business, huge percentage,
even to the point where the President just a couple
of days ago admitted, uh that businesses have come to
him and say, hey, you're breaking us.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Uh gad to be here. These are not these are
not lawbreakers, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, no, No, here's their crime. I mean it is
you know, it's it's a crime to overstate a visa.
It is a crime to go across the state line
or the uh the country line, you.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Know, the borders.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
But their motivation is to feed their families. That's it,
and to give an opportunity for their kids. And it's
kind of hard not to your heart to go out
to them, but you've got an administration that basically said,
we don't care.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's more important for us to secure our borders.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And deport everybody, everybody, all eleven million people that are
in this country illegally.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
By the way, it's a lot more than that, and
toss them. Okay with that?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So exactly exactly so uh and by the way, most
manufactured owners voted Trump, and now they're sitting going, wait
a minute, that I vote to put myself out of business.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So Trump is backed off.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I'm sure that most of them, like me, thought that
this was going to be focused on people who were right.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, that was the problem, criminal William, that was that
was the promise.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So the bottom line is they need a warrant and
how much of a pissing match you want to get
with them?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Go figure. Lauren, Hi, Lauren, welcome.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Good morning. Yes, ma'am, I am the I am the
office manager and bookkeeper for an emergency water mitigation and
construction firm. We pay our employees.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On a weekly basis.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Last month we were in dire financial strengths and we
couldn't make payroll.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Ooh so the GM.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, so the GM dipped into his personal coffers and
paid each of the team members. There's twelve three hundred
bucks each just to pay them something for the two weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, So the company did not pay him. And what
he did is he gave them out of his pocket.
What the three hundred dollars? How much is that? If
of that is towards their pay?
Speaker 8 (23:11):
So if someone was two thousand dollars for that week,
everyone just got a.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Flap three hundred okay, got it? All right?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
So all right we are now yeah, so we're now
back in. There's there's money in the till, and we
would be able. Being the bookkeeper, I know that we'd
be able to repay our employees myself included for that
back pay. The GM continues to just give me lip service.
I just want to know what kind of recourse do
(23:39):
I have around?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
No, I no, I understand. And do you sign the
checks by the.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
Way, Lauren, No, he does.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay, but you issue the checks, correct.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I process the payroll correct?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Okay, so you you process the payroll, so you are
part of not paying them I'm just thinking, Uh, if
there is liability, how much of it falls on you
because you're so involved in the payment.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Let me ask you a question, Lauren, are you a lesbian?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, well you will be after you spend a couple
of months in jail with the other women prisoners. Okay,
with that being said, the fact that you, in fact,
or the company is in fact paying off the people
because you had a short, you had a crunch, financial crunch,
and you went ahead and within a couple of weeks
(24:30):
were able to pay them their salary their back pay.
Still in violation, but the California the Franchise Tax Board
is going to appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't think you're going to get nailed on that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And my question is when you say you're getting lip
service from the CEO of this, what does that mean.
Is he not letting go of the money that's in
the account to pay back pay?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, that's an issue. That's an issue, and that's not
your fault. All right, So you can continue you being straight. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, it's a problem. It's a big problem.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
Yeah, I'm just okay, you know what, And now, so.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Here's the issue.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, company is in complete violation of state labor law.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Boom done. Now what do you do about it?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Any one of the employees can complain because there's been
a violation a lot, and it's a pretty serious violation,
not paying employees. I mean, that's way way up there
on the food chain. You can report the company, of course, don't.
I would share that it was you, But the liability
at this point is with the CEO. And if the
(25:36):
franchise tax board finds out, then you know, the labor board.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He's in a world of hurt.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And this is KFI handle here on a Saturday morning,
eight hundred and five two zero one five three four.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Back we go, more handle on the law. Charisse, Hello Charisse,
Hello Bill. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
A couple of years ago, I smashed my e bike
into a bunch of rocks and I ended up with
a nice little ambulance ride, seventeen stitches and a few
broken ribs, and I just I just received a bill
from the ambulance company. Is there a statute?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, and it's four years And you said this happened
here a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Ago, yeah, April twenty. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Look this up on the internet under sol are the
initials that this thing applies for. Yeah, because here's what happens.
It's even with the statue, they can't sue you. Okay,
the statute doesn't mean you know, the statue limitations means
you have X number of years this case would be
(26:49):
four to sue. That doesn't mean you still don't owe
the money. It just means you can't be sued for it.
And you get dinged like crazy. Yeah, you know the
money on Fortunately, they took a long time, but they
can do it three literally, they can file the lawsuit
three years, eleven months, and twenty nine days past the
(27:10):
time that you owe the money. So call him out
and start talking. Literally, just call him up and start talking,
and that's all you can do. Negotiate it. You owe
a pile of interest, yes, to waive that. You say,
I'm going bankrupt. I have no money, but I'll borrow
money and I'll pay you fifty cents on the dollar,
twenty five cents on the dollar. And it depends on
(27:31):
how miserable you sound. You live in a dumpster, Oh
my god. And I had rotten food for lunch today
because I can't afford food. It's one of those things
where you have zero legal, legal platform to talk about.
You have nothing other than you have to throw yourself
at the mercy of these guys.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Hope I ruined your day. Yeah, there you go. That's
the kind of phone call I like you, bet you Lauren, Hello, Lauren, Welcome.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Our company was purchased last year in twenty twenty four,
and with this purchase, the acquisition of the company came
a purchase of accounts receivable. This last two weeks, the
board came to me separately of my president of the
company and asked me to do an audit of the
(28:26):
purchased accounts receivable report that he provided to them, which
they purchased.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I'm not going to use exact numbers, but the rate okay.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah, So going through this audit, and I've had several
meetings with the board and they did this excluding the
president of the company. He was not allowed to be
in these conversations or look at the report because they
let him have a first pass at it, you know,
to be able to provide honest commentary. And then they
had me on the side him not including the conversation.
(28:58):
I'm not using real numbers, but he sold them ten
million dollars worth of an AR report, for example, and
the ratio was seven million dollars if that was invalid?
My question for you. I don't know what the board's
going to decide to do about that, but I just
want to know, for me, having been asked to do
this by the board, if in fact he fires me
(29:21):
to he's mad or whatever else, I just kind of
want to know what kind of protection I have.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, Okay, there's two issues here.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
One is can you be accused of complicity if you've
been asked to do it audit and there is financial
there's a financial issue as in misconduct. Can you be
accused of covering it up? Especially if it's criminal activity.
That's one issue. The other issue is is.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He going to fire you because you did that? Well?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think that's a good employment discrimination case, I really do.
But how does he keep his job with a new
board and he's a CUE of a seven million dollar discrepancy?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
How does he stay there?
Speaker 8 (30:06):
I don't think they did the due diligence that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm not arguing that they Okay, they didn't do the
due diligence, but that doesn't take away from the fact
that he According to what you say, there is a
seven million dollar discrepancy that it's somehow happened and he's
the CEO, how does he keep his job? Okay, so
here's what I would do. Okay, you know, if you
(30:30):
go forward and you report it and you do the audit,
you're not You're clean. I mean, there's certainly no liability
on your part. If you are fired, I think you
have a good discrimination suit. If you don't share it,
you don't, then I think.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
There's liability there.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So I'm going to say you absolutely do it, and
you protect yourself just by being honest and laying it
out on the table that you find out. It's not
that complicated. Zelman's been Team Mouthmans. I've been telling you
about Zelman's now or probably close to a year, and
I've been involved with these people for literally thirty years.
And this is about these little capsules that you suck
on the mint and then you swallow or bite into
(31:07):
the capsules and they go to work in your gut.
And why in your gut, well in the mouth, and
your gut is where bad breath starts and stays there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I drink coffee this morning. Coffee breath.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I eat garlic onions a matter of fact, this morning
I had garlic laden onions. Bad breath, and it comes
out of your gut too. Zelman's menteem mouth more.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Than mints is clearly the answer for fresh breath for
hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
So twenty percent discount if you buy a five pack
of Zelmans, twenty percent discount. It's a big discount on
a five pack. Go to Zelmans dot com, slash kfi,
z E L M I N S. Zellmen's dot com
slash kfi, Zelmans dot com slash kfi.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
This is Handle on the Law. You're listening to Bill
Handle on demand from KFI AM six forty
You're listenings kf I AM six forty the Bill Handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio f comebody, everybody, Bill Handle.
Here is a Saturday morning. Oh what a day today.
The big parade going on to Washington, d C. Two
hundred and fifty years of celebration of the existence of
(00:25):
the US Army and the United States, and the US
Army in the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Good, good, redundancy.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And simultaneously, coincidentally, it's President Trump's birthday, so it's a
double hit for the president. Massive parade in Washington, to
see thousands of troops, tanks and armored personnel, carrier and missiles,
and yeah, it's going to look that way, Paul rand
who is a Senator from Kentucky said, and when asked
(00:53):
about it, would he had voted for paying for it,
which he didn't, said that he's not a big fan
of co stepping soldiers marching down Constitution happened.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I thought it was kind of funny, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
And then the demonstration is going on, the no Kings
demonstrations going on all over the country, so it's it's.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Going to be a hell of a day. In the meantime,
why don't we do what we do every.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Saturday morning, and that is I give you marginal horrible
legal advice. Occasionally good legal advice, but only when it's
not a good call on.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
The number here eight hundred five two zero one five
three four, eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
And as at this point, if you've ever listened to
the show, no surprise that this is the first hour.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It is the top of the first hour, which.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Means it takes a little bit of time to get rolling,
and lines are generally open, and they are we have
plenty of line open, plenty of lines open for advice.
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four, eight
hundred five to two zero one five three four. This
(02:09):
is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where I
tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You have absolutely no case when it's good for me.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
There is a former Orange County Supervisor southern California. Orange
County Supervisor by the name of Andrew Doe is Vietnamese
and he was elected as supervisor in from the Vietnamese community. Now,
when he was running for supervisor, I embedded myself in
(02:40):
his campaign to follow his campaign because I wanted a
report on the Orange county supervisor's race, and.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Just in general politics.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I've never embedded myself in a campaign to try to
understand what's going on, both in terms of the political
ads and the contacts and the fundraisers. I mean, I
knew all about it from a distance, but inside the campaign,
and he was very kind. You let me do that,
and I thought he was the greatest guy in the world.
In the meantime, it looks like he accepted more than
(03:14):
five hundred thousand dollars in bribes for directing and voting
a favor of more than ten million dollars in COVID
pandemic relief funds to a charity that was affiliated with
one of his daughters. It's a nonprofit called the Viat
America Society. Millions of dollars from the county, his daughter
(03:38):
purchased a million dollar home. After officials said that he
and his daughter enriched themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
This is using taxpayer funds.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And in the quote now he pled guilty of this,
and the prosecutor says as a county supervisor, Andrew Doe
transformed the County of Orange into an ATM, a veil
GiB to his insiders, his loved ones, and himself withdrawing
millions of dollars to buy houses, lavish dinners, expensive.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Wine while the elderly.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
This money was for the elderly, This money was for
the sick, This money was for the vulnerable. And it's
not just ripping off businesses. It's not a Ponzi scheme.
It is taking money from elderly people who desperately needed
the money.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And that is pretty bad, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
So he has pled guilty and he's going down for
a very long time. The daughter forfeited the house, they took,
they took assets, and it's just horrific. And I thought
he was a great guy. I really did all right.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Phone calls, Here we go, Matthew, Hello, Matthew, welcome, Hey Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I've been struggling with a gambling addiction in the last
several years, and they got two major problems because of it.
I'm hoping to get to one maybe two. I enter
one of those equity sharing programs, you know, or you
take out a loan out against your mortgage and then
you've got to pay it back at high interest rates. Okay,
(05:15):
I don't you know right now, if I was able
to pay it back, I borrowed like four thirty five thousand,
they want like one to fifty.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Now, when you borrowed, you borrowed, way, you borrowed five thousand,
they want one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
No, No, I borrowed thirty five thousand.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh and they wont one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Okay now now, but you know, obviously if the property increases,
that goes up. I don't you know, I'm not trying
to get out of the agreement. I just want to
know if there's a way to drop that interest rate.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, you call them up, and it's real simple.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You start negotiating with the mortgage holder, the person who's
holding or the company who's holding the paper.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Now legal, there's no way you're out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
However, if you can't pay it, you can't pay it,
and so you know you possible you lose your house,
you declare bankruptcy if you can't pay it back, and
if you don't have any way to pay it back,
that gets very difficult. But you know, hopefully you call
someone hopefully who is has an addiction problem, had one,
(06:23):
has a family member who had an addiction problem, and.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Just say, hey, work with me. Please work with me.
This is not a legal issue, Matthew's.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You've got nothing to stand on as far as legally,
so there's no attorneys involved.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I don't know of any programs it'll get you out.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Of this, even if even if a judge gives you
all the benefit of the doubt and feels for you
and understands.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't think a judge could get you out of it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Unless you were to wait for a lawsuit and then
you have to defend yourself, for example, a foreclosure lawsuits
filed and for which you're gonna lose, unless the judge
holds that initially there was fraud involved, that there's misrepresentation
the loan was fraudulent. But based on what you say
(07:12):
mafter you it doesn't sound like it was much fraud.
It just sounds like, you know, you were caught up
in this gambling addiction. You needed money, and you borrowed
a ton of money against your house, and hey, you
know that's that's your problem legally. So it's one of
those where you beg and you throw yourself on the
mercy of the court, throw yourself onto the sword, and do.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
A lot of whimpering. A lot of whimpering. Also very
it helps. Let me give you some advice.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It helps that you get a fake doctor's note that
you're dying of cancer, that your dog, your best dog,
just died, your blind and a seeing eye dog, that
you had died very strong, you were a vet and
you lost your arm.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Just try to do what you can to beg them.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Obviously, I'm getting a little red and a little hyperbolic,
but a hyperbolic, but that's that's the way I would.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Go, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And and you know I understand the gambling addiction. You
know my philosophy. As you wake up in the morning,
you gamble all day long. It's that simple. I've been
telling you about Zelman's now for I don't know how
many months, and I am so involved and both emotionally
and well. These people who have Zelmans are friends of
mine for thirty years. And you know, they're the mint
(08:28):
that's far more than a mint, both in your mouth
with a minty coating and then you swallow or bite
into the little capsules and it gets to work in
your gut. Here is their offer, and until July fourth,
you buy a five pack of Zelmans and you get
twenty percent off five pack of Zelman's twenty percent off.
That's a hell of a bargain. Go to Zelmans E
(08:49):
L M I N S. Zelmans dot com slash kfi
Zelmans dot com slash kfi.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
This is KFI A M six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This is handle on the law KYF I am six
forty Bill, handle here on a Saturday morning. Eight hundred
five two zero one five three four eight hundred five
two zero one five three four Welcome back. Handle on
the Law. Marginal Legal Advice. Lindsay, Hello, Lindsay.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Hi Bill, how are you down this morning?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Excellent? Okay? What can we do for you? Or what
can I do?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Say? So?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
My question is about conflict of interest?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yes, okay, so okay.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I have filed a small claims lawsuit in Oklahoma and
the defendants attorney is the same one that my parents
have used to fight like the child's abuse accusations, I
mean when I was seventeen. I've also I've often asked myself, like,
if I was so bad, why did my parents want
me there so bad? Well, now that I'm an adult,
I realized it was because they didn't want me to talk.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
But anyway, OKAYNIBICTHI this was how how long ago did
the attorney represent your folks?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Well representing them now? Oh now okay, hey, let me
ask you a quick question. Small claim suit and I
don't know obviously I don't live in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Can you even bring an attorney to small claims? Because
you certainly can't in California.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Okay, So what they've done is they've hired the attorney,
and so now they because the limit is ten thousand dollars,
but it's seventy like, if you do more than seventy
five hundred, then the defendant can escalate it to the
next level court.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh, I see, just make a okay, got it? All right?
And you can do that.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yes, the defendant can make a motion to kick it
up to superior court. And that's what happened. And there's
an attorney.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
How much is suing for it?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Lindsay ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Okay, And they hired a lawyer for that, all right.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
So the so he's willing to pay the lawyer fifty
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh, it's one of those Yeah, I know, I get that. No,
I get that, lindsay.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The attorney representing him having represented your parents and still
representing your parents.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah, he's conflicted up to his eyeballs.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Of course he is, Lindsay. And you simply, here's you do.
You make a motion to have tossed, okay, and and
you asked, and you asked for sanctions from the court
to pay for it. Because for the attorney representing that
that defendant while representing your parents is completely crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I mean, I can't think of a clearer conflict. So
you go in, Yeah, bring a lawyer in. You can
do it yourself if you want, because what's he going
to say? There is no conflict. You would have to
you would have to waive the conflict, and so would.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I think the defendant. Both of you have the ability
to toss this guy.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So yeah, talk to a lawyer, toss it, you know,
And then this is Oklahoma.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You can pay your lawyer with like sides of bacon,
can't you.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Now Everyone that I've talked to wants cash money.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And lawyer's money cash money. That's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, it's so much easier with like sides of bacon
and hogs and you know, volunteering to cut firewood or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, you may have to pay.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Up front, or you can find someone who would do it.
I think sanctions are going to fly. I do believe
that the court is going to pay force the other side,
the lawyer, to pay your attorney's fees. But it's not
a complicated motion at all. It may it cost you
a little bit of money, but I would do it.
That's the way you get the lawyer out. It's very
very simple on that one.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Chris, Hello, Chris, welcome.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Hello, and thanks for your show. So I'm involved in
a class action suit against a TV maker and the
case was settled. The court assigned distribution that signs to
a private company in Milwaukee, and they have danced around
and lied many times, and they haven't given me my money,
I know, one hundred dollars. But even more important, I
(12:43):
found out that the same company is handling a suit
against LADWP. So I just wanted people to be aware
of this. And also, if you know a way that
I can.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Get yeah, you contact you know how you get it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You contact the law firm that represented the class and
you call them up and go, hey, I want to
talk to one of the lawyers who was assigned to
this class action lawsuit. The settlement was the settlement was
figured out? How come money isn't being distributed?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
I did that?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And would the lawyers say nothing?
Speaker 6 (13:16):
They didn't return my calls?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh all right, all right then, oh right, but the
lawyer is the lawyer represents you because you're part of
the class. All right, Complain to the state bar. Now
we're talking about a complaint to the state bar. All right,
that's what you can end. But at least you do
it on your own. There's a form that you fill out.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It's really easy. What did the lawyer do?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You check boxes where you know, misrepresentation, embezzlement, sex with animals?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I mean, you know whatever the box is.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you simply complain to the state bar. I mean,
that's that's all I would do, because if they're ignoring
you and one.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hundred dollars, how far are you going to go for
one hundred dollars?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Well, if I hadn't heard about the DWP, I probably
would have dropped it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Well, by the way, are you a DWP defendant or
a plaintiff? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
On top of it? And what do you think you're
owed on the DWP side?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I don't know, And I really don't care, but there
was a number on them. I didn't even know this
existed until a friend showed me a check.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
She'd yeah, no, that's what happens. Your people are part
of the class and they don't even know it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
What was.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
On the DWP on the bill gives you a phone
number to call. I did that, left a message, of course,
got nothing back.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, no, I mean trying to call.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, you can't call today and you get menus or
I have a problem, Yeah, I have a problem with
my solar thing going on, and.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I get yes.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I'd like to find a way to let the court
itself know the administrator who assigned the case to that
private company, so they know there's all right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Well you try and find out who, find out who
it is and uh, you know, leave it, but write
an email to uh the I assume it was an
administrator made the decision.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It wasn't a judge.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Well, the one thing I was told by the court,
a law firm that had been a handling it said
the cases are assigned to by a court administrator. Now
I did find out there is such an animal, but
haven't been able to Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Let me ask, Okay, let me let me answer the question.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You can if you want just literally go crazy for
one hundred bucks and whatever you get. It depends on
how involved you're going to get. Can you do something
about it? Yeah, you got to hire a lawyer. That's
thousands of dollars, so you know, at some point you're
absolutely right. But at some point, you know, what are
you gonna do for one hundred bucks? It's not like
you lost one hundred dollars.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
The main thing is that it doesn't just affect me.
It affects many thousands.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
What do you care?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, well, all right, yeah, it affects very much a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I care. I care. I want to save a lot
of people.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Please now join the Peace Corps, you know, and go
to Africa someplace. Well, all right, for a I take break,
a quick word about your business, and I'm going to
give you a way to make your business. If you
do two million dollars or more a year, a whole
lot more efficient, I mean a lot more efficient.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Today it is very difficult to do business.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Getting it, doing it, keeping it, making money profits. So
let me suggest visiting NetSuite dot com slash handle. NetSuite
is in suites office suites NetSuite dot com slash handle
is a cloud the number one cloud business management system
and it brings accounting and financial management and inventory. If
you do that, I do and hr all together, so
(16:36):
the information is there at a moment, it's real time.
It just makes you more efficient and they'll explain why
I don't have time to deal with this right now,
and explain all the advantages.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
But there are a lot of them, so you can.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
You can download the free cfo's Guide to AI and
Machine Learning. See if NetSuite works for you, and there's
no charge for that. Download go to nets slash handle.
Net Suite again is an office suite NetSuite dot com
slash handle.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
This is Handle on the Law. You're listening to Bill
Handle on demand from KF I am six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
KFI Handle here on a Saturday morning with a legal show.
Phone number eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
We have lines open eight hundred five two zero one
five three four.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
More Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice. William, easy
name to remember, Hello William.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Good morning, Yes, sir, long time listener, first time caller.
How are you?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I appreciate it?
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Yes, so I have a question about ice. Hi own
the business. I've got about sixty employees, and I'm wondering
if our chilly friends happened to show up at my
front desk and I obligated to let them in. I
should add something. I don't just own the business. I
also own the land that it sits on and around it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, that doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
The fact is it's your business and they're not going
They're not going after the land. They're going after the
people that work for you. So it doesn't matter whether
you least they land or not. Now this gets interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
What do you do? What do you manufacture? Or what
business are you in?
Speaker 7 (18:16):
William H We are we are. We are in a
manufacturing business and it's a it's a private and I
really don't want to get into too much detail for
obvious reasons. We're in Orange County. The reason this came
up is about a mile away, there was a costco
and they happen to visit there as well as a
home depot. So it's it's it's been around, they're there.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh, let me tell you, I live in a gated community.
Uh and uh I happened to be live. I live
about a mile away from a dump where you know,
a lot of construction people drop off the uh you know,
their construction debris. And I went out the other day
on the major street leading to it, which is the
street is about a quarter of a mile from me.
(18:58):
There were the ice trucks, you know, the suburbans with
the lights flashing. Oh it was pleasant. So yeah, I
get it. Okay, here's the bottom line. If I shows
up and they come to your door and say I
want to go in there, or any agent east, you
can say, show me a warrant. They cannot come into
(19:21):
your business without a warrant.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's for starters. However, yeah, you can't deny him. But
let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
You're dealing with the Trump administration, okay, and this is
not an administration that really follows the letter or the
spirit of the law when it comes to this sort
of thing. I mean, one of the things that Trump
ran on and this was not just him blowing smoke.
He believes to the depths of his soul in terms
(19:52):
of the illegal migration and illegal migrant issue. So you
can say, no, now do you well, you know, what
do they do? You know, do they wait outside for
people coming out.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Of the building.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Do you do You set up cots and set up
an emergency shelter basically what they call it a Red
Cross shelter inside sanctuary. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, call
it a sanctuary these folks, and see what happens. And
they arrescue for interference with a federal agent. Legally nothing,
(20:31):
legally nothing. And the point is, and I think you know,
when you don't want to share where exactly and what
you manufacture because you can be identified, that is the
point in southern California, because so much of the labor
force is illegal migrants.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I mean the agriculture.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Industry eighty percent, manufacturing a huge percentage, construction business, huge percentage,
even to the point where the President just a couple
of days ago admitted, uh that businesses have come to
him and say, hey, you're breaking us.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Uh gad to be here. These are not these are
not lawbreakers, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, no, No, here's their crime. I mean it is
you know, it's it's a crime to overstate a visa.
It is a crime to go across the state line
or the uh the country line, you.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Know, the borders.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
But their motivation is to feed their families. That's it,
and to give an opportunity for their kids. And it's
kind of hard not to your heart to go out
to them, but you've got an administration that basically said,
we don't care.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It's more important for us to secure our borders.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And deport everybody, everybody, all eleven million people that are
in this country illegally.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
By the way, it's a lot more than that, and
toss them. Okay with that?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So exactly exactly so uh and by the way, most
manufactured owners voted Trump, and now they're sitting going, wait
a minute, that I vote to put myself out of business.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So Trump is backed off.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
I'm sure that most of them, like me, thought that
this was going to be focused on people who were right.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, that was the problem, criminal William, that was that
was the promise.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So the bottom line is they need a warrant and
how much of a pissing match you want to get
with them?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Go figure. Lauren, Hi, Lauren, welcome.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Good morning. Yes, ma'am, I am the I am the
office manager and bookkeeper for an emergency water mitigation and
construction firm. We pay our employees.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On a weekly basis.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Last month we were in dire financial strengths and we
couldn't make payroll.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Ooh so the GM.
Speaker 8 (22:50):
Yeah, so the GM dipped into his personal coffers and
paid each of the team members. There's twelve three hundred
bucks each just to pay them something for the two weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, So the company did not pay him. And what
he did is he gave them out of his pocket.
What the three hundred dollars? How much is that? If
of that is towards their pay?
Speaker 8 (23:11):
So if someone was two thousand dollars for that week,
everyone just got a.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Flap three hundred okay, got it? All right?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
So all right we are now yeah, so we're now
back in. There's there's money in the till, and we
would be able. Being the bookkeeper, I know that we'd
be able to repay our employees myself included for that
back pay. The GM continues to just give me lip service.
I just want to know what kind of recourse do
(23:39):
I have around?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
No, I no, I understand. And do you sign the
checks by the.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
Way, Lauren, No, he does.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Okay, but you issue the checks, correct.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I process the payroll correct?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Okay, so you you process the payroll, so you are
part of not paying them I'm just thinking, Uh, if
there is liability, how much of it falls on you
because you're so involved in the payment.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Let me ask you a question, Lauren, are you a lesbian?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, well you will be after you spend a couple
of months in jail with the other women prisoners. Okay,
with that being said, the fact that you, in fact,
or the company is in fact paying off the people
because you had a short, you had a crunch, financial crunch,
and you went ahead and within a couple of weeks
(24:30):
were able to pay them their salary their back pay.
Still in violation, but the California the Franchise Tax Board
is going to appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I don't think you're going to get nailed on that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And my question is when you say you're getting lip
service from the CEO of this, what does that mean.
Is he not letting go of the money that's in
the account to pay back pay?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, that's an issue. That's an issue, and that's not
your fault. All right, So you can continue you being straight. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, it's a problem. It's a big problem.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
Yeah, I'm just okay, you know what, And now, so.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Here's the issue.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, company is in complete violation of state labor law.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Boom done. Now what do you do about it?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Any one of the employees can complain because there's been
a violation a lot, and it's a pretty serious violation,
not paying employees. I mean, that's way way up there
on the food chain. You can report the company, of course, don't.
I would share that it was you, But the liability
at this point is with the CEO. And if the
(25:36):
franchise tax board finds out, then you know, the labor board.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
He's in a world of hurt.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And this is KFI handle here on a Saturday morning,
eight hundred and five two zero one five three four.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Back we go, more handle on the law. Charisse, Hello Charisse,
Hello Bill. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
A couple of years ago, I smashed my e bike
into a bunch of rocks and I ended up with
a nice little ambulance ride, seventeen stitches and a few
broken ribs, and I just I just received a bill
from the ambulance company. Is there a statute?
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, and it's four years And you said this happened
here a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Ago, yeah, April twenty. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Look this up on the internet under sol are the
initials that this thing applies for. Yeah, because here's what happens.
It's even with the statue, they can't sue you. Okay,
the statute doesn't mean you know, the statue limitations means
you have X number of years this case would be
(26:49):
four to sue. That doesn't mean you still don't owe
the money. It just means you can't be sued for it.
And you get dinged like crazy. Yeah, you know the
money on Fortunately, they took a long time, but they
can do it three literally, they can file the lawsuit
three years, eleven months, and twenty nine days past the
(27:10):
time that you owe the money. So call him out
and start talking. Literally, just call him up and start talking,
and that's all you can do. Negotiate it. You owe
a pile of interest, yes, to waive that. You say,
I'm going bankrupt. I have no money, but I'll borrow
money and I'll pay you fifty cents on the dollar,
twenty five cents on the dollar. And it depends on
(27:31):
how miserable you sound. You live in a dumpster, Oh
my god. And I had rotten food for lunch today
because I can't afford food. It's one of those things
where you have zero legal, legal platform to talk about.
You have nothing other than you have to throw yourself
at the mercy of these guys.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Hope I ruined your day. Yeah, there you go. That's
the kind of phone call I like you, bet you Lauren, Hello, Lauren, Welcome.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Our company was purchased last year in twenty twenty four,
and with this purchase, the acquisition of the company came
a purchase of accounts receivable. This last two weeks, the
board came to me separately of my president of the
company and asked me to do an audit of the
(28:26):
purchased accounts receivable report that he provided to them, which
they purchased.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I'm not going to use exact numbers, but the rate okay.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
Yeah, So going through this audit, and I've had several
meetings with the board and they did this excluding the
president of the company. He was not allowed to be
in these conversations or look at the report because they
let him have a first pass at it, you know,
to be able to provide honest commentary. And then they
had me on the side him not including the conversation.
(28:58):
I'm not using real numbers, but he sold them ten
million dollars worth of an AR report, for example, and
the ratio was seven million dollars if that was invalid?
My question for you. I don't know what the board's
going to decide to do about that, but I just
want to know, for me, having been asked to do
this by the board, if in fact he fires me
(29:21):
to he's mad or whatever else, I just kind of
want to know what kind of protection I have.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Well, Okay, there's two issues here.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
One is can you be accused of complicity if you've
been asked to do it audit and there is financial
there's a financial issue as in misconduct. Can you be
accused of covering it up? Especially if it's criminal activity.
That's one issue. The other issue is is.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
He going to fire you because you did that? Well?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think that's a good employment discrimination case, I really do.
But how does he keep his job with a new
board and he's a CUE of a seven million dollar discrepancy?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
How does he stay there?
Speaker 8 (30:06):
I don't think they did the due diligence that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm not arguing that they Okay, they didn't do the
due diligence, but that doesn't take away from the fact
that he According to what you say, there is a
seven million dollar discrepancy that it's somehow happened and he's
the CEO, how does he keep his job? Okay, so
here's what I would do. Okay, you know, if you
(30:30):
go forward and you report it and you do the audit,
you're not You're clean. I mean, there's certainly no liability
on your part. If you are fired, I think you
have a good discrimination suit. If you don't share it,
you don't, then I think.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
There's liability there.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
So I'm going to say you absolutely do it, and
you protect yourself just by being honest and laying it
out on the table that you find out. It's not
that complicated. Zelman's been Team Mouthmans. I've been telling you
about Zelman's now or probably close to a year, and
I've been involved with these people for literally thirty years.
And this is about these little capsules that you suck
on the mint and then you swallow or bite into
(31:07):
the capsules and they go to work in your gut.
And why in your gut, well in the mouth, and
your gut is where bad breath starts and stays there.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I drink coffee this morning. Coffee breath.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I eat garlic onions a matter of fact, this morning
I had garlic laden onions. Bad breath, and it comes
out of your gut too. Zelman's menteem mouth more.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Than mints is clearly the answer for fresh breath for
hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
So twenty percent discount if you buy a five pack
of Zelmans, twenty percent discount. It's a big discount on
a five pack. Go to Zelmans dot com, slash kfi,
z E L M I N S. Zellmen's dot com
slash kfi, Zelmans dot com slash kfi.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
This is Handle on the Law. You're listening to Bill
Handle on demand from KFI AM six forty
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.