My Pillow Guy has Issues...

Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Bill Handle here Saturday morning, and it is first full
day of summer.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh yeah, we're here. Summer has arrived.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Phone number eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
And that's for, of course, some legal advice. Ay I
may or may not give you. Eight hundred five to
two zero one five three four is the number two call,
and it's the top of the hour, which of course
means it's the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Fair enough. Eight hundred five to two zero one five
three four.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice. One
of my favorite crazy conspiracy people is a guy by
the name Mike Lindell.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Mike Lindell is the My Pillow guy.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
He advertises all over the country and he sells pillows,
and he's branched off into sheets and all kinds of things,
but his big deal is my Pillow. And he came
aboard early on as a former president and President Trump
conspiracy theorist. But I mean of the first water the

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premise that the twenty twenty election was stolen was illegitimate,
something that the president to this Day insists on.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, Lindell took it to whole new levels.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
And what he did is he went very public because
he is a public person.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And he accused.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
A fellow who worked for Dominion Voting Systems, and the
Dominion voting systems they manufacture I think more of these
voting voting machines at any place in the country and
have software that counts votes, etc. And it's private company.
It may be public, but it's an outsource.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Company because when you have counties and states.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
That have voting machines, they have to get him someplace
they don't manufacture themselves. So Dominion is a huge, huge
player in this field. Well, this guy, Eric Comer, worked
for them. He was a security and product strategy director
at Dominion, and Dominion was at the heart of the

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conspiracy theorists who had argued that Dominion cooked the books.
They took Donald Trump votes and moved them over to
Joe Biden, and lawsuit after lawsuit was filed. First of all,
let's talk about the lawsuits themselves to hold the election invalid.

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Sixty three of them were filed around the country, state, federal,
across the board, appeals court. Not one prevailed, not one
prevailed there was never any evidence that Dominion had ever
done anything wrong. Well that didn't stop my pillow, and

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well Fox also produced that Fox News they had to
settle with My Pillow for about eight hundred million dollars
over three quarters of a billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
They settled because they just perpetrated these lives.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Mike Lindell just kept ongoing the Energizer rabbit. So Eric
Homer Coomer Susan and he's awarded two point three million
dollars in damages. And what's interesting about Mike Lindell as
well as Rudy Giuliani, these two are true believers.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean they have not stopped.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
For example, at the trial, Lindell kept on asserting that
Dominion cooked the books that committed that Dominion committed fraud.
And Lindell was asked, do you have any proof? He
couldn't come up with any and they brought no witnesses aboard.

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So of course he gets nailed. I mean, he got plastered,
but he walks outside of the courtroom still saying, yep,
Dominion still did this, still did this. I absolutely hold
to those facts as he pretends they're facts, and he
is a true believer. He'll never get it up. Give
it up, Julia, Rudy Giuliani. Same thing, Giuliani who lost everything.

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I mean, he lost his license to practice, he lost
his property in New York, he lost his memorabilia collection.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And I know someone who knows someone. I know a
guy who knows a guy. I know someone who actually
knows Giuliani and has worked with him. And I asked him,
I said, you know, you talk to this guy. Has
Juliani ever said, whoops, maybe I shouldn't have done this,
you know, maybe it didn't work out so well from me?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
And he said, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Giuliani to this day is a true believer and has
no problem having given everything up to maintain the election
was a fraud.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Same thing with Lindell.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
He says he was worth at one time sixty million dollars.
Now he's ten million dollars in debt, but he thinks
it was well worth it because the election is a fraud.
I mean, yeah, at what point just give up the
ghost even if you think it is, you go, all right,
you know what, I get it, So I'll just say it, Okay,

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it wasn't. Now let's go on with your life. By
a pillow. Nope, crazy guy. All right, let's go ahead
and take some phone calls here, Eric, starting with you, Hello, Eric, welcome.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, Hi Bill.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
That's actually a two part question. I've been out of
my apartment since Thursday, and I just wanted to know
because a gas leak. There was a gas leak, so
I want to know if I have any recourse on that.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, Well, where's the gas leak coming from inside
the apartment? Somewhere in the joe the landlords land brought
his landlord brought over a plumber to fix it.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Well, they don't know. They can't find it, you know.
They it's between the meter, I guess, and my apartment somewhere, right.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So who's Who's who's trying to fix it here at
this point, the gas company or a plumber.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
The gas company wants nothing to do with it, they said,
the pump. That's the plump the landlord's problem. So she
sent somebody over there. They've been looking for it since then.
I can't find it. But in the meantime, my gas
is completely shut off, right, So I you know, I
can't take a shower if I Yeah, I get it.
So do I have any recourse I guess, I guess

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I get your record.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, i'll tell you you don't pay the rent.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
For those days.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, those at that point, you don't pay the rent.
I wouldn't because your place is clearly not habitable.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I mean it'd be great if it was the middle
of the winter and was twenty degrees below zero. That
would be a lot more helpful. But yeah, I still
wouldn't pay the rent. Now there's gonna be an argument
whether rent could be paid or not, or your damage
is really the rent?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Well, you could eat out. You could eat out, then
it would have cost you more. But you know, while
she's looking at it, I just.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Wouldn't pay the rent and then argue about it later
or ask for reduction in rent, And that's sort of
your recourse. It's a little bit of a wobbler because
inability to cook or take a shower, well, you know,
you take a hot shower. Yeah, I'd argue that's habitability.
I'd withhold the rent, and then you start negotiating. What's
your other question.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well, I notified the gas company about a year ago
because my bill has been about three times the amount
normally is, so they've been kind of humming and huing.
They came out, looked at the appliances. They said, nothing's wrong,
nothing wrong. They've been insisting that nothing is wrong. The meantime.
I could smell gas here and there, but you're nothing

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really like intense.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
When I finally, when I.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Finally brought them out, I insisted that something's wrong, righted.
So they did a pressure test finally, and that's when
they determined that there's a gas leap somewhere, not at
the appliances, but somewhere in the lines. Okay, So do
I have any recourse against.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I guess the gas company. Yeah, only only pursue it
to the bill. I mean that's another thing.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
You negotiate with them, and you start saying I called
you a month a year ago, and you didn't come out.
You did come out, you finally figure it out. Uh yeah,
I mean nothing's easy about this one. So you have
two areas of negotiation. You cannot not pay the gas.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Bill because they're going to just cut you off that
you can't deal with.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Okay, landlord, there's some wigle room there, But you know,
is there any recourse? Not?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Really? Do you smoke? No, I wouldn't. And do you
ever light up a joint. No, I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that either. Yeah, that's none of it
is going to work out very well for you.

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See what happens if you're not calling in, I beg
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Is the number to call and you'll probably get right
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And I'm going to give you the kind of advice
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don't want.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Does that make sense? Sure? Welcome back, Handle on the Law.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Marginal legal advice Lauren, Hi, Lauren, you're up.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Welcome.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Hi Bill.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Yeah, I live in San Diego, but I own a
home in Massachusetts. My brother lives there, and all the
utilities are in his name. When he passes away, I
responsible for paying the utilities.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
But they just will cut it, be cut off, that's all.
It's not that complicated. And the properties in his name
or your name, that's in my name, all right. So
if the property is in your name and he took
out the properties like a renter, I guess is the
way they view it. And now the renter dies and
someone's got to pay the bill, and it's the property owner.

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And frankly, they don't care who pays the bill. You
just pay the bill. Are you liable for any passed bill?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Well?

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, you're the property owner, and they are going to
say we'd like to get paid or else you're not
going to get utilities.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Okay, do you know?

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Do you know if he's in arrears or not?

Speaker 6 (12:45):
No, he's not in arrears.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh you're fine, then you're fine.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
You know?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Is he is he close to dying?

Speaker 6 (12:52):
Yeah, he's in very poor health.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Oh I'm sorry. Uh, and what's going to happen to
the house once he goes Laurie.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
I'm probably gonna sell it, okay, all.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Right, just curious anyway. That's the quick and the long answer. Carl, Hi,
Carl A right, Bill.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, sir, what can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I have a situation.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
An insurance company is a denying coverage for a leak
in a rental property that I owned. Basically occurred. Keennant
called me, said that there was a wet, wet carpet.
I went out to the house, immediately turned off the water,
met with her, caulled my plumber. He was not able

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to come out as a longtime plumber who was always
taking care of the property, called a secondary plumber, and
at the time I looked at it, I thought this
was a slab leak. Secondary plumber came out and he
identified that the leak was actually coming from beneath the
kitchen sink and he was going to have to break
into a wall to take care of it. He couldn't

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get to it for about four days. He did say
that I could go ahead, my tenants could go ahead
and use the you know, the fauces for showers. And
such on the kitchen sink. We put a bucket underneath
that and he said, as long as you can use
the kitchen sink, water drains out to the bucket, just
pour that out.

Speaker 5 (14:25):
So that's what we did.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
He came back four days later. He had to break
into a wall, replace the pipes, and then replaster over
the wall. I called my insurance company while I was
with the tenant with the initial leak. They sent out
a remediation fella. He took a lot of photographs, looked
at the kitchen, looked underneath the sinks and such, and

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he thought there was, you know, possibly a lot of damage.
He had a small eye like a mini iPad device.
There were probably three or four pages of material there
and he said, just tap this, go ahead and we'll
take care of everything. I said, I wanted to review
the information first, and he said, okay, excuse me. So

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I contacted the insurance company. Had set it up with emails.
You do everything with emails these days. It's difficult to
speak to someone basically.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know, Carl, this is not gone with a win.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
You got to make this a little quicker, okay, Hi, story,
I don't tell you where you went to school and
tell me how older your kids are, what your dog's
name is.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Okay, bottom line is what?

Speaker 8 (15:33):
Bottom line is the insurance company denying any career.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, So the insurance company says no, got it. Uh
So what's your question.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Well, I've had the plumbers go out there all the time.
I've never been made aware of the league. The tenant
has never seen a leak previously. There's a long term
all right.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
So there's not so any insurance company saying no, thank you.
All right, So what's your question?

Speaker 8 (15:57):
What what's my alternative?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
You're also know this to appeal it to Yeah, your
alternative is to fix it. I mean, you have no choice,
and you look at your policy really carefully.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
And if what's gonna happen, you're probably getting into a
pissing match with your insurance company.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Go Yep, it's covered. They're gonna go No, it's not covered.
It happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
By the way, that's not gonna be It's this is
not the first rodeo that either you or the insurance
company has had, and it's gonna be a fight as
to uh, you know, is insurance there is their coverage?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Is there any negligence on the on the part of
the tenant, not what you not the way it seems
seems to be in the wall and not the tenants fault.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So, uh, that's what you do.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
And if you have to, you go ahead and you
can sue your own insurance company and just start fighting it.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Right, Not much, there's not much more.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You can do.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Yeah, I spoke to a public adjuster. They didn't want
to get involved. They said, the insurance companies always win.
They're always like that.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
It does.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's the wrong public age. That's the wrong public adjuster.
By the way, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
How much what is it going to cost to fix
this thing?

Speaker 8 (17:08):
Probably worry about thirty thousand, thirty thousand.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Okay, Yeah, you're gonna get a fight with the insurance
company big time. And if you have a public adjuster
that says the insurance companies always win, what is that
person doing in the public adjusters in that business anyway?
The whole point of a public adjuster is to fight
with the insurance company.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
That's what they do. So, you know, it's like a
defense attorney. You hire a defense attorney who.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Says, you know what, I'm not going to do the
job because the prosecutor always wins.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Why be a defense attorney.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Then that's your job. So that's basically the bottom line,
that's what you're gonna do. It's always a horrible situation
with insurance companies because you know I've told I mentioned
time and time again. What the insurance companies do is
they become experts at not paying you the money, saying

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we're not covering it, or if we are covering it,
we'll give you fifty cents when they should give you
a dollar.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, that's welcome to the world of insurance.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
All right.

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This is Handle on the Law.

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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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four Back we go more Handle on the Law. Anya, Hello, Anya, fine,
yes ma'am.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yes hi.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
I had a question.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
I have a summary that thirty seven years old. I
did apply in two thousand and nine to have it expunge.
That was like twenty two years ago, and I was denied.
So I put in for an expungement, and I wanted
to know for the summary, if that can be excused.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I don't understand. I don't understand what a summary is.
Explain to me what what was? You were either convicted
or held liable for?

Speaker 9 (20:56):
What?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Anya conspiracy?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Fifth conspiracy?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
What retail fift?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh, conspiracy of real retail theft?

Speaker 10 (21:08):
And what?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I don't understand how the word summary gets involved in there.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
You will just make it. It's not a misdemeanor or felony.
It's a summary.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Okay, that's news to me. Okay, So let me ask
you a question. Okay, I've never heard of that, but
fair enough.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
All right.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
So you've been convicted of a crime, neither a misdemeanor
nor a felony. If it's a felony, it's very difficult
to get it expunged. Misdemeanor fairly easy. Now, this happened
thirty seven years ago, So Annia, let me ask you.
Here we are thirty seven years later, and you have
a conviction on your record.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
How old are you?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Sixty eight?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay, God, you sound so much older than that. Let
me ask this, how does it get How does it
getting in your way?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Not?

Speaker 4 (21:57):
If not, but the fact that I no longer want
it on my record, I want to expunge.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, no, I understand, But how okay? Got it other
than you wanted expunged? Now?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
What I mean other than that? Other than for personal reasons?
Is it getting in your way at all?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Ania?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yes, because it's still showing up on my record.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Uh huh?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
And how is it getting in your way? Have you
lost a job because of it?

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Have you asked for a government security clearance that you
can't get because of it?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
How's it getting in your way?

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yes? I asked for to purchase fire firearm and I
was denied.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Got it? Okay? So that's how it got in your way?
Fair enough? All right?

Speaker 5 (22:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
And the expungement was denied any particular reason that it
was because remember you're going in front of the court
and you're asking the judge to expunge it, and you
were denied.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
I was, Yeah, I just gotta let her say in
that it was. Then I because I was short of
two votes.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Short of too usually it's a judge who does that.
I'm a little bit you know what. I you got
all right? You got me confused on that one. But
I'm glad I was able to help you. Helluh sure,
why not? Cal? Hi, Cal, welcome, Hey Bell.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
I have a question for you. I just want a
lawsuit through my landlord, and I'm just wondering how if
it will affect my social security. I know I have
to report it to them, but is that is that
considered any I don't think.

Speaker 10 (23:34):
It's going to It's not gonna you know, you want
a lawsuit and for how much? Well ninety nine, But
that's a good chuck of buddy. And what was the
basis of your lawsuit? Why did you win the lawsuit?

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Well, the landlord neglected to fix the home we were
living in over several years, and the cosment came in
and well we started.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
I don't think that.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I don't think that's considered income. Cal.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I don't think it changes You're so security. Doesn't change
you're so security anyway. I mean, you're allowed to have
all the income you want with so security, and you
get so scaredy. I think the only issue is how
much of it is taxable. A certain percentage of it
is taxable and part of it is not. I mean,
you still get your SO security. You could win a
you could win a fifteen million dollars lottery.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
And you still get your SO security. So actually you're
in pretty good shape, not bad. Was it a trial
you went through or they settle?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Actually he settled out of court because he didn't want
to go to trial.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
For ninety nine thousand dollars. Wow. Yeah, that's a chunk.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Okay, So I'm assuming you did pretty well with that
all in all. Let me ask you, let me go
another way. If you had to do it all over again,
would you go through the grief you went through to
get a ninety nine thousand dollars check?

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Good, Yeah, then you know it's worth it.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Then good for you. Damn straight, that was worth it. Cindy, Hi, Cindy,
you welcome.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Hi.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
Bill, hold on a and let me turn off the radio.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That would be good. Oh good, good good, Yes, ma'am,
thank you.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
Well.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
First of all, I'd like to tell you I had
a conversation with you about some criminal activity at the
apartment building I lived in.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Mm HM, and.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
After forwarding our discussion, they got skiffy and fixed it.
Oh wow, time to say thank you.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Oh you're welcome.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
That very rarely happens. Usually, uh you know, I went
ahead and follow your advice and none of it helped
or it was even worse. All right, what can I
do for you this time around, Cindy?

Speaker 9 (25:37):
Okay, Now, this time I my vehicle was stolen and
I had to call one of these popular passenger taxi services,
mainly Uber. And when they picked me up, I tried
to tell the gentlemen I didn't have my seat belt on,
my door was still open, and he took off. He

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was going more than five in less than ten miles
an hour when I looked up and I saw that
a car was coming out of the parking parking lot perpendicular.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
And was ready to t bone us.

Speaker 9 (26:11):
And I told the Uber driver, look, somebody's gonna hit us. Look,
somebody's gonna hit us.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
And he didn't understand.

Speaker 9 (26:18):
I finally said stop and he understood that. Consequently, I
got launched into the passenger seat, the door the passenger door,
and ended up on my bottom on the floorboard on
the passenger side.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Now, the.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
Insurance company, I don't know if I could mention their name.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Now I don't don't okay, Oh yeah, the insurance company
did what I taking.

Speaker 9 (26:45):
The insurance company is taking responsibility for the medical bill,
hospital bill which was about twenty nine thousand, and the
ambulance bill which is about five hundred. And they've offered me,
first of all, one thousand dollars for pain and suffering,
and I just laughed at that, and then they offered
me twenty five hundred for pain and suffering.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Why are you even talking? Let me ask you, why
are you even talking to them? Why isn't a lawyer
representing you in personal injury talking to them if it's
a twenty nine thousand dollar.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
Because I called a lawyer and they said that because
I only went to the hospital once, it wasn't enough
of a lot.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Then how did you get it? How did you get
a twenty nine thousand dollars bill? Well, I went to ER.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
Stanford. ER is my community hospital.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
How did you get a twenty nine thousand dollar bill?

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I don't know either. You go to the ER and
you leave that day and you here's a bill for
twenty nine thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
The MRI or whatever the scams they did were like
ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Oh that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Okay, Cindy, let me ask you when did this happen?
How long ago did this happen.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
It happened in March ninth.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Oh, and you never got I wish you had called
me on this when it happened.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I still want you to call Handle on the law
dot Com and talk to one of personal injury lawyers.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, when something like that happened. Yeah, what's your question?

Speaker 9 (28:27):
Well, my question is, obviously you've kind of answered it
and said I'm entitled to more than twenty five hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I think I would guess that, Yeah, I would think.
But you're not going to be able to negotiate with
these people when you're talking like this.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
This is what they do.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
This is why I tell you about personal injury lawyers.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
This is why I have Handle on the law dot
Com for these exact instances.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The insurance calls you up go, We'll handle all the
medical bills. That's easy.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
And here's an extra thousand bucks. Wait a minute, what
do you mean an extra thousand dollars? You guys crazy? Okay,
here's an extra two thousand dollars. And then you're talking
about I mean, this could be worth so much more.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I don't know. KFI.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Handle here on a Saturday morning. Eight hundred five two
zero one five three four. Well you have some lines
open eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
Welcome back, Handle on the law marginal legal advice, where
I tell you you have absolutely no case.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Micah, Hell, Mike, welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
Thank you for the thirty five years of your service.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Wow boy, all right, you've gotten as old as I have.
And let's not repeat that thirty five years. Good god man.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
You know at least you don't sound that close to death,
but I'm assuming you are. What can I do for you? Micah?

Speaker 6 (29:57):
I called in last week about the fire hydrant and.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Still there. Did we just lose Micah? Yeah, we just did.
I'm gonna put him on hold, okay, so when he
comes back, we'll pick it up.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
I just lost him, unfortunately. Uh Chuck, Hi, Chuck.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Hello, Hey Bill the nice I got to you.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
I've listened to you for thirty years.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
Also back when you're fifty pounds.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah that's a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
Hey, I just wanted to Okay, here here's my question.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
I just wanted to know why do you hate Trump
so much?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's not a legal question, uh it because I I mean,
I'll give you the answer, which normally I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think higher of the presidency. It's not even the politics.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's just I want someone who I would hold that
I could respect, and I don't.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
I sometimes I sometimes I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Oh hey, hey, hey, I don't want to get into
it with you. Do you have a legal question?

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Chuck?

Speaker 6 (31:02):
Sure, I do not, but I do think.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
All right, Mel, Hi, Mel, welcome, Hey a long time.

Speaker 11 (31:12):
Listen there to you guys. You guys are the best.
I have a worker's comp case for seventeen years. I'm
not supposed to get it. Also, I'm pretty supposed to
settle it.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Seven Wait, well, hold on a minute.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Seventeen years. You're in the middle of a work case. Yeah,
that's the record for me. I gotta tell you, that's
the longest I've ever heard of. So all right, So
with that being said, you got my attention. Now you
certainly have my attention, all right, go ahead, mail.

Speaker 11 (31:43):
So I'm not supposed to my attorney's supposed to claim
socio pain and softry.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
No, probably not.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
You know usually workers comp, doesn't you don't get involved
in pain and suffering. What happened to you that you've
been sitting in a case for seventeen years.

Speaker 11 (31:59):
I got a sign of thirty two by thirty two
read construction sign fell from the truck that I was driving.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I was on the ground and my health for okay,
the truck got it.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
So you went against Yeah, you went against your own company,
got it. So here's how it works workers comp. Well,
first of all, we're in no fault state, so it
really doesn't matter unless you can a third party you
can blame, then there's a personal injury case. But if
it's just going against your own employer, which is the
case here is, Yeah, you don't get pain and suffering.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You just get the disability or or the work comp
how much your guy? This is weird. That has gone
on so long. That is so strange. Have they talked
money to you at all yet?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (32:46):
There for me eighty eighty four thousand dollars which I
was making over one hundred thousand on yeah year.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Yeah, that's you know what. That's what they do.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
So you have to work with your work comp attorney
and you know that's what the work compatorney does. Negotiates
for you, and you're in front of an administrative hearing judge.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And so what's your question in Mel?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
I think that was it? Okay?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
All right, well, all right, okay.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
So Mel now has the record seventeen years, you know,
working on a work comcase. Go figure that one out,
all right, before we bail, A quick word about being
in pain. Obviously, Metal's in pain. A lot of people
call me are in pain in chronic pain, which means
you're living with pain or someone you know twenty four
to seven and that is a tough way to live.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
And my wife does that.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
She is she has a strange neurological thing called complex
regional pain syndrome, and she's in pain all of the time.
So what she did is she started this podcast called
the Pain Game Podcast, and it's about helping her and
helping others who are dealing with chronic pain, talking about it,
suggestions joining this community, because when you live in chronic pain,

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not only has it hurt a lot, you're alone a lot. Well,
with a pain Game podcast, this helps give you great information.
And every episode ends with a message of hope. There's
actually hope at the end of this tunnel. So let
me suggest listening to The Pain Game Podcast, and season
three just started dropping. I think you're gonna be as
impressed with it as I am. It's the Pain Game Podcast.

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You can follow her on social at the Pain Game Podcast.
Season three just started dropping. I think I just said that.
Visit The Pain Game Podcast. This is Handle on the Law.
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