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So when we have people here at my station KFI
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the commercial to help the people who do it themselves.
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Because some owners of businesses managers want to do the
commercials themselves.
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Hi.
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I own the company, and I always say I want
two people. I want the owner and I want the
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good commercials that we can look at, because normally they
can't both be horrible. So inevitably one of them will
do the spot. And when we're finished, I look at him.
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It is that bad. You suck.
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All right, Let's try the other one, and so we
record the other one. I turned the first one and say,
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There are plenty of stupid questions. Eight hundred five two
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Speaker 1 (03:03):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice, where
I tell you you have absolutely no case.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The president major win in the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
One of the arguments, one of the positions that President
Trump has taken is that when he issues an executive
order it can be shut down across the country by
one federal district court judge. All you need is one
and the program where the executive order is just shut
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down pending appeals. And Trump argued that you can't have
a judge effectively determine what I, President Trump can do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
How does a single.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Judge stop an executive order, stop a national program of
which I am allowed to do under the law, So
he argues, and up to this point, that's exactly what happened.
If federal judge could just shut it down across the country.
There are almost seven hundred federal judges in the United States,
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any one of which up to now could simply issue
an order saying nope, that's unconstitutional, and it stops right there.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And then through the appeals process.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, the Supreme Court went the other way, saying that
a federal judge does not have the right to stop
a program. Now it can be appealed and it will
go to an appeals court, which again is not going
to stop the program until the Supreme Court rules on
it or says no, thank you. In the appeals court
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decision will prevail. And here's the argument makes a lot
of sense, except the argument on the other side, because
when you have a president that can go like over
the top with an executive order that is clearly crazy
or make no sense, then a single court judge should
be able to stop it. Case in point, we're talking
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about birthright.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
What's the word I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
For, Yeah, birthright, a native birthright where if you're born
in the United States, you are a citizen of the
United States according to the Fourteenth Amendment. Straight out. Therefore,
anybody born here of an illegal migrant, anybody doesn't matter.
If you're born here, you are a citizen of the
United States. Right there in the Fourteenth Amendment, it says that, well,
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the president is arguing no birthright. And here's why, because
the law was intended to only free children of slaves
who were not citizens. And what he is now saying
is that was the intent. Now it's being used for
anybody who comes to the United States has a kid.
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Therefore you have a citizen on your hands. And the
President is saying no, no. His argument is, let's interpret
the Constitution differently than it has been interpret and therefore
these kids are not citizens and ostensibly can be deported.
And what happens after the fact, it goes on appeal,
and finally the appeals of the Supreme Court says, nope, kids.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That are born here are citizens.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
In the meantime, you got thousands of kids that have
been tossed out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
There really is.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
There are both sides of this one, and both sides
have an argument. It's fascinating stuff. But the fourteenth Amendment
that was passed right after a Civil War, I think
it was eighteen sixty eight says if you are born here,
or you're if you're born here, or you're the child
of a natural a naturalized citizen, you are an American.
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Well it doesn't seem me that way, all right, Go
figure fascinating and it's going to go on, by the way,
and the President rightly said, it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Huge win firm elf and it is huge win.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
As he said, there's been no president who has ever
had so many lawsuits filed against executive orders than anybody else,
proof positive that he is a victim of this huge
deep state and the radical left wing judiciary, leaving out
the fact that there's been no president who has issued
this many executive orders in the first several months of
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a presidency. So that argument goes both ways. All right,
let's go ahead and take a phone call starting with you, Dave,
welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Oh hi, should I whistle blow on my company built?
What I get rewarded? They use AI? It's a telemarketing company.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And why should why can't why can't they not use AI?
What's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Well, it's a telemarketing company. Apparently you can't use AI
to make phone calls. The other party has to really
sign off.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, great, I get AI phone calls fifteen twenty twenty
five times a day.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Well, uh okay, Well apparently that's the rule for a
telemarketing company.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Are you to me?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And how do you know there.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
How do you know they're using AI because I work
for the company and it says AI right on the
right on the when they're using it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Uh, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, they're calling people up and they're saying this is AI.
I'm a little confused here.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, it's a computer.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's not a person.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, I understand that, now, I get it. That's of course,
it's a computer. By the way, without AI, it's a computer.
You get so many recorded phone calls, always have and
AI has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't know how AI connects with it, because that
can be data mining and can figure out that I'm
more apt to buy something than not using AI. But
I don't know where the illegality of using AI is.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And you're saying, well, putting that aside, putting that aside.
The company is not completely transparent.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, none of them are whistle.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Blow, none of them are.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Day Okay, what if I whistle blow and the company
goes bankrupt after I whistle blow? Do I get rewarded
for whistle blowing and owner?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well not if they don't have any money.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And okay, so I just don't understand where and maybe
I'm wrong. Maybe there is law on the books that
says a telemarketing company cannot use artificial intelligence in determining
whether or not someone gets called or what kind of
phone calls news to me. But the answer is if
there's no money, if a company is bankrupt, you're not
going to get any money on whistle blowing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So sure, why not give it a shot?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Do you have an attorney?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I could, no chance, no chance, Nope, there is no
attorney I know that would take that one on. Not
even close.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
All right, let's take our first break. This is Handle
on the Law, and this is KFI handle.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Here on a Saturday morning, phone number eight hundred five
two zero one five three four. Eight hundred five two
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Speaker 2 (10:25):
Marginal legal advice. Where I tell you you have absolutely
no case, Peter, let's see if you have a case,
let's go for it. What can I do for you?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Hey, I was on the protest June eight. I got
Ronfi arrest. They say I started the fire, but you
was the bush like already got light up. I was
there trying to use the water to put off the fire,
like a water bottle, and you didn't put off. Oh,
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and then there's no other water bottle I can use,
and they tried to shoot the rubber buddhists to me.
So I got put the wire and then I walked away.
And then later on they.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I see okay, I see. So uh you're there with
a water bottle. You couldn't use the water bottle. And
so let me get this right. You're walking you got shot, Okay,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You got to make it a little clearer to me because.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
There is at so when we when we pro protesting,
they do tarragas and flashbround.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No, I understand they did. I get that that's what
they do. But I'm talking about you specifically.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
There's a fire and you okay, there's a fire, and
then what.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Uh the fire is over the fence. It's hard to reach.
So okay, I tried to pop shot right the water and.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It didn't it didn't work. Okay, it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, So therefore you're walking away from the fire, correct, yes, okay,
and then you get shot and then you get shot
with a rubber bullet.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (12:05):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I got shot at when I was watering water try
to put out the wolf put all the Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You got shot with a water bullet. Okay, water ball okay,
fair enough?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And and and what happened after that?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
And and then I didn't know they're gonna chase me,
but I got on my car, I started driving, and
then they chased me later and they arrest me afterwards.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And I assume you were booked and released. Uh, and
you're looking at a charge.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I got bailed out, okay, but you're still.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You were still booked.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
How much was the bail h fifty?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
WHOA, there's an insurance that I need to pay the
bail guy, They said.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, no, you're gonna pay five thousand. You're gonna pay
five thousand dollars for the pleasure. Okay, And you were
arresting you.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
With fIF I paid fifty thousand, okay, gonna you're.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Gonna get that back.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So let me ask this, Uh, what what's your question?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Let's start with that.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
So I'm gonna be August eighth to be on the court.
I'm gonna play no guilty, and then I'm going to
try to file, uh get a public defender to to
because I'm in low income.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
How did you get fifty dollars if your low income.
My parents okay, your parents came all right, got it? Yeah,
all right, And you're a public defender. And now what's
your question? I got it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What's I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
I'm trying to win the case. Yeah, I have no evidence.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I promise support with him.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, I have no like but the NN I should
call me on tape.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh you can.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You can subpoena CNN tape. You can subpoena that video.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Okay, that's and that's a a police body camera.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, you'll be able to get that too. Okay, Yeah,
you're gonna be able to get all the video.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
So I've heard there's gonna be a two faith So
first one is I'm getting no guilty, try to get
the evidence to get the lawyers, and then I'm trying
to sue them for wrongfully arrest.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Why because police, I understand. But the police are able
their defense. There's limited immunity where they say they're acting
in good faith.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It was crazy out there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You looked like you were part of it, and they're
going to argue we couldn't tell you're walking away. This
thing is blowing up. Uh, there's no way you're probably
gonna win. You're probably gonna get off. I can't imagine
that if you go ahead and subpoena everything and the
DA sees it, I can't imagine that you're not going
to be let go. The charge is going to be dropped.
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I'm almost certain based on what you say. But suing
them for wrongful arrest, that's not going to happen. That's
just that's just not happening.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Okay, let's say the stab back no guilty, I say
I win the case. I'll get a fifty thousand dollars back.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yep, No, you're gonna get a fifty thousand dollars back.
That doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What you're gonna get fifty thousand dollars back because you
bail is to make sure you show up. That's all
it is. It has nothing to do whether you're guilty
or not. It just says we're gonna make sure that
Peter shows up. Give us fifty thousand dollars, and that
means that you're probably not gonna skip bail, and as
soon as you show up, you get your fifty grand back.
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Oh right, all right, and you're not gonna be able
to sue by the way, that that is not going
to happen. Zail hi Zl welcome, Hi.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yes, and I went to recently.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
I was in it in the hospital through er.
Speaker 10 (16:02):
They did a cat scan and within the summary of
the cat scan found out as far as it diagnoses
on my part, it said that my uterus was surgically removed.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Whoa when?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
How long?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh? How long ago? Almost? Okay, almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
But I'm just now finding out that.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
By the way, why would anybody remove your uterus just
for fun? Like a doctor had nothing else to do
and they pulled, uh, you know, straws and found out
who was going to remove your units.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Well, when I went in to see this specialist, before
I went in to have a DNC, I was having
severe minstrel cramping hands. The doctor rectmant a DNC, going
to see the doctor.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, here's what I get it. No, I get it. Now,
let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's there's forms usually sign that says if the doctor
discover something in which they have to go beyond normally,
you agree to that. That's dealing with the tumors. And
all kinds of things. Don't know if it considers on
maybe you have a serious or had a very serious
matter in which it was appropriate to remove.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Your uterus and you signed it off.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know, idea, you don't have the consent for
him in front of you, not from twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I know that.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
That I went and got from the doctor two weeks ago,
and the doctor's all the notes from that surgery said
I had a DMC.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Oh and not a removal of the uterus.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, Okay, you know I don't know enough about this, clearly,
because there are a lot of moving pieces here in
terms of the defense, because you know they're going to
defend it, and there's a statute of limitation issue that
I don't know if it would fly or not, whether.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's been told. But there's enough.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
There's enough to say, oh that you want to talk
to a medical malpractice attorney just to see if anything's there.
I don't know how unusual. I don't know enough about that.
If you've been listening this show for a length of time,
you've heard that once or twice. But that sounds to
me like you want to talk to a med malle
attorney because that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I mean, that's reasonably serious. Well, let me ask how
old were you when you had the uters removed. I
can't have a kid anyway, you know, it'd be very difficult.
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You could, Yeah, all right, were you at that point?
Did you have all the ability to have a child?
For example, had you been.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
Spade nor ned?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, yeah, no, I was fine, but it was like
four months after that? Alright, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Okay, all right, yeah, I think there's enough there to
at least have a conversation with a med Malle attorney.
Do I think much is going to come out of it?
If I had to guess, No, But I've certainly been
wrong many many times. All right, we just had a
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is handle on the law. Robert, Hello, Robert, welcome.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Yes, yes, it is visual to have a camera decide
the elevator commercial building to check down his custody has
a lot of money, and do we have to have
a permit from the city. We already have cameras outside.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yet it is perfectly legal to have a camera inside
of an elevator in a commercial building. It happens all
the time. There is no issue. You don't need a
permit at all. I would be The only thing I
would be a little concerned about is masturbating in the elevator.
That's a little bit problematic, although we have a good
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defense if they charge you with masturbating in public because
you're arguing it's in an elevator.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, no, no, that's not your problem.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Medical building, medical building.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well then you can argue, well, then you can argue
it was a medical procedure you were doing either in
vitro fertilization like I did.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But it wasn't and I didn't produce a specimen in
an elevator. I did it at the doctor's office. The
bottom line, Robert, is yeah, you can put cameras in a.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
D access to whoever he's doing it. If he's coming
to see you like.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Uh yeah, well you find out and you throw them out,
that's all.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
And if he's doing graffiti, you call the police. Here's
the proof. You're fine. Yeah, okay, Yeah, there's no problem
with that anybody wants Yeah, no problem at all.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, yeah, you don't sue him. You haven't tossed out.
I mean, there's nothing to sue. I mean, what are
you gonna see him for cleaning.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Up the mess?
Speaker 10 (22:30):
No?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
No, no, they're gonna sue us.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Why are they gonna Why are they gonna sue you?
They're the ones that are doing it. They're not gonna
sue you. You're allowed to have a commercial, uh a,
an elevator camera.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All day long? All right, Dave, Hello, Dave, welcome.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
There, Yes, sir, Yes, So, I used to work at
a hospital for two twenty years and did a couple
of different things. Held a regular tech job and a
director job and another administrative job over the years. I
got laid off last year and didn't have the best
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relationship with the nude director that had come in, and
over the I've moved on, got another job, better job,
but I stayed friends with a couple of my ex
coworkers who have been telling me over the year this
past year that they've just been, for whatever reason, bad
mouthing me. Just these couple of people, the director, and
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you know, I signed a thing that I wasn't going
to say anything bad about the hospital, which I went
because I had a good job there, but for whatever reason,
they had a thing for me. And a couple of
several of my co workers have been telling me over
this past year, and I've let it, tried to let
it go that you know, they just continually have whatever
heaven saying stuff about me. You know, even one of
(24:05):
them had a birthday party and she's wondering why I
if she was inviting me to her birthday party. Anyway,
I was letting it all go, trying to let it
go until last week. I went to visit a friend
in the hospital, and uh, he was a friend, but
also I do lead services at a local congregation. He
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was one of the congregants.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
This is going long, This is going long.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
They so basically, I'm I'm going in the hospital, I
do my visit, coming back out, and the security card
says I just got a call from the director of
the department I was in saying I am not allowed
in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
All right, and which I'm all right, now.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
What well, I'm just wondering what I'm just wondering if
there's any kind of a defamation.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, not really, No.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, he can say I don't want this guy in
the hospital. You can do that all day long because
he doesn't like you, who doesn't trust you, or whatever.
And as far as you being bad mouth, does it
affect your job at all?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know? I mean, is it defamation? Of course?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
His defamation? Yeah, I mean it is defamation. So what
today people badmouth each other all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Let me ask you, how many people do you think
bad mouth me out there.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All the time?
Speaker 9 (25:31):
Bill?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That is correct, That is correct.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I'm not allowed to come in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's allowed to do that. He's the director. He is
the director. He is allowed to do that. You do
not have a right.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
To go into that hospital unless you have an emergency situation,
unless you're being brought in on a gurney or an
ambulance brought to you in. And somehow the director says
I don't want this guy treated that he can't do.
But walking in the door for a birthday, Uh no.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No, it doesn't work that way. And to your question, yes,
it is defamation. Yep. Absolutely, Laura, Hello, Laura, welcome.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yello.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Bill.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
I'm hoping you can help me. The issue I'm getting
with is I want to know if there's medical liability.
I'm an epileptic and I had an appointment with the
TA on Christmas Eve and I told him that I
was out of my medication and he didn't do anything
(26:36):
about it. And then I finally called the office and
I said, listen, I'm out of medication. Well in that
period of time, I fractured my nose and fractured a rib.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I mean, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, no, that's uh. Now
we're getting into pretty good damages here. So let me
get the timeline correct. You ran out of medication, and
you called the pharmacy or you called whoever the doctor
to refill it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay, to refill it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right, So from the time well, how long did
it take them to refill it? From the time that
they called it in? How long a period was at Laura.
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Over a month?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It took them a month for you to get it filled.
Speaker 12 (27:26):
The do everything for doctors now, yeah, no, for the
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It doesn't matter if basically it's the doctor, so don't
worry about that part. And it doesn't matter if it's
if it's a physician's assisted or not. The question is
you called it that you're running out and they took
a month?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Now? Did do you know if they went ahead and
called it in and it was the pharmacy that took
a month, or was it the other way around?
Speaker 12 (27:55):
It is the other way around, And the problem is
I have to have surgery.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, no, no, let me no, no, no, listen, Laura, listen.
Based on what you say, there's a case there a month.
Why didn't you call him earlier?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Why don't you say, hey, I'm running out of medication.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
I called him two weeks because I had emergency medication,
but I don't tell doctors that I just why not
have emergency medication? And because I was ludslide and the
people couldn't get a FI department couldn't get up to
the doon it for two and.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
A half days.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You couldn't get out.
Speaker 12 (28:33):
We couldn't get out, and they couldn't get it, got it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They wouldn't even let you out for they wouldn't even
let you off for emergency medication. That's kind of interesting.
All right, You've got a lot of moving pieces.
Speaker 12 (28:43):
You couldn't get through the canyons.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
All right, Okay, I got it, and maybe that's their argument.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's the defense is we couldn't get through the pharmacy
or the doctor called it in and we couldn't get through.
That's a pretty good defense, don't you think, Laura.
Speaker 12 (29:00):
Oh no, the mudslide was nine years ago. I was
just stating that. That's why I have emergency medic eights
tell the doctor about all right.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, okay, right there, we stop it. The mudslide was
nine years ago, and okay, where do you go with that?
And she had I mean, we'd been a lot more entertaining.
If she had made this phone call after going into
a seizure and epileptic seizure and flopped on the ground
like a fish, that would have been an interesting phone call.
(29:31):
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Speaker 2 (30:45):
This is handle on the law kfi.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Handle here on a Saturday morning, number eight hundred five
two zero one five three four. If you want I
was about to say, good legal advice. If you want
legal advice, eight hundred and five to zero one five
three four is the number to call. All right, welcome
back handle on the law marginal legal advice.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mary Anne, Hello, Marianne Hie.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
Yes, yes, my name is Marianne. Yes, my sister. My
sister passed away sometime last year, and in the meantime,
her brother in law is trying to claim a portion
of the estate. And we, you know, we were told
(31:36):
that because we were blood relatives, that we're the ones
that are entitled. My sister, my nephew, and niece and myself,
four of us. Now they're trying to come in and
say that they should get awarded a portion.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Of of course they are, of course they are. Okay, Marianne,
we start with how much money? Are we talking about?
Speaker 13 (31:57):
Million? Two million?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Two million dollars?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Okay, So that's enough money for anybody to come in
and make a case. This is why if you listen
to the show at all, and people go, Bill, can
I do my own will? And I always ask how
much money? Well, a million dollars, half a million dollars,
three million dollars? I go, why in God's name wouldn't
you go to an attorney to make this thing air tight? Okay,
(32:22):
assuming that I'm assuming there's a will or a trust here, right, Marianne. Yes, Okay,
let's start with brother in law has absolutely no case.
Ok Okay, brother in law has no rights. What's going
on is brother in law has found an attorney who
is going to make a case, make a claim, and
(32:44):
usually they do that and in order what happens is
the estate who's ever running it, decides, all right, we're
gonna pay him some money because it's cheaper than fighting
this thing. It's simply a business decision. And the Sleezeball
attorney and Sleezball brother in law walk away with let's say, okay,
it's two million dollars and tells you give me fifty
(33:06):
thousand dollars. I'm gonna walk away because it's gonna cost
you more than fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And there are attorneys that would fight it. So you
have a couple of choices.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You tell them to go pound sand and he goes, okay,
go ahead fight it. Tell the sleeves Ball attorney, okay,
we'll go to court. I don't care, no problem. You're
gonna lose, you're gonna be You're gonna have to go
to court, and you're gonna have to do all the work.
And I understand we're gonna have to pay for an attorney,
but so be it, or you write the check. You're
being extorted and quite often when Yeah, it depends on
(33:40):
how you feel about this.
Speaker 13 (33:42):
Now, if I would have known that he was helping
my sister that died after she died, I would say,
you know, maybe he should be important, but he never even.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, Marianne, don't Yeah, I
don't care. I don't care what the reasons are. It's
real simple. Here's the law. He's not entitled. He's filing acclaim.
They want to get money.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
They want to have a settlement because it's cheaper they're
going to argue than you going to court, and you
write them a check.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And it's a business decision, as I said.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I and when I had my business, when I had
my surrogacy business, one of my employees had we fired
and sued me for discrimination and made it up.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And you know we did. We settled.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We wrote a check because it was far cheaper to
write a check that it was to litigate. That's that's
the issue. Welcome to the world of the law. Isn't
that fabulous?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Tom? Hello? Tom? Welcome?
Speaker 11 (34:40):
Yeah, welcome Bill. I was assaulted by a city worker
while I was walking to work on the sidewalk and
I was just looking how to navigate through this process.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, Well, you're walking along the sidewalk and then some
city worker says, ooh, there's a guy over there I
want to beat up, right, is that what happened?
Speaker 11 (35:00):
I walked down this sidewalk all the time. It looked
like he was looking at us. I thought he was
the owner of the commercial building looking at the water meter.
Maybe it was running a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, what did you let me ask you? Why do
you think he assaulted you?
Speaker 13 (35:12):
Tom?
Speaker 11 (35:14):
I think he was drunk or crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I was, so there's no there's no reason for it,
is what you're saying.
Speaker 11 (35:20):
I basically walked between his would I see as a
city vehicle. I'm kind of just I'm just thinking, all.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Right, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom Tom.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Okay, real simple, you were on the sidewalk when you
were walking and the city worker attacked you.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Correct, that's simple, Okay, got it? And how badly were
you banged up? How badly were you hurt?
Speaker 11 (35:42):
I'm pretty good health. So he just bruised my elbow
and spilt my coffee.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, that's unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I mean it would have felt much better if he
had done your elbow, so your entire arm would have
been cut off.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
And that would have been if I would have been
knocked down and injured, like severely, there was the possibility
of being injured, so would.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, I know, but there's a possibility. But you know what,
and I.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Always say, you know what, if my grandmother had balls,
she would be my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
There's a possibility it didn't happen. You weren't injured that much?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Charge?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, it is, it is. It's an assault charge. The
problem is and it's a misdemeanor assault. You call the
cops on that one.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Are you gonna get any money?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
No?
Speaker 11 (36:21):
But you can make him money.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Okay, Then here's what you do if you want to
give him grief. Here's what you do. You make a complaint,
You call the cops, you call who's ever the supervisor
and number.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Then there's nothing else you can do. There's nothing you've
done at all. You've done, You've done everything there is
to do. Hey, I want to tell you about chronic pain.
If you happen to live in chronic pain pain all
the time, or know someone who does, or treats someone,
you know how miserable can be. I happen to live
with someone who suffers from chronic pain. Uh, my wife,
(36:57):
and it kills me to see her self that much.
And so I'll tell you what she did to deal
with it is she created the Pain Game Podcast. The
Pain Game Podcast is about dealing with pain, is about
dealing with trauma. And does it help you?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Bet? Now? Does it relieve pain.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Sometimes depending on the treatment they talk about, but more importantly,
it helps you deal with the pain. Every episode ends
with a message of hope. By the way, there are
that she talks to experts. I say, why don't you
do ABC and D And there's some huge successes there.
But you're gonna understand that the show is about giving
pain purpose. I know that sounds weird, but once you
(37:38):
listen to it, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's
the Pain Game Podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Believe me.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
It helps a lot of people chronic pain. Yeah, listen
to the Pain Game Podcast. Season three just started. Pain
Game Podcast. This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 11 (37:58):
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There are plenty of stupid questions that come into this show,
which I've been dealing with for decades now. And every
time there is a question of astounding stupidity where I
(01:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I own the company, and I always say I want
two people. I want the owner and I want the
general manager, because I want to choose one of two
good commercials that we can look at, because normally they
can't both be horrible. So inevitably one of them will
do the spot. And when we're finished, I look at him.
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been broadcasting now for over three decades. That may be
the worst spot I've ever heard in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It is that bad. You suck.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
All right, Let's try the other one, and so we
record the other one. I turned the first one and say,
I have to apologize to you. You're not as bad
as this one is. Therefore, that leads right into my analogy.
There are plenty of stupid questions. Eight hundred five two
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Speaker 1 (03:03):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice, where
I tell you you have absolutely no case.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
The president major win in the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
One of the arguments, one of the positions that President
Trump has taken is that when he issues an executive
order it can be shut down across the country by
one federal district court judge. All you need is one
and the program where the executive order is just shut
(03:40):
down pending appeals. And Trump argued that you can't have
a judge effectively determine what I, President Trump can do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
How does a single.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Judge stop an executive order, stop a national program of
which I am allowed to do under the law, So
he argues, and up to this point, that's exactly what happened.
If federal judge could just shut it down across the country.
There are almost seven hundred federal judges in the United States,
(04:13):
any one of which up to now could simply issue
an order saying nope, that's unconstitutional, and it stops right there.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And then through the appeals process.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, the Supreme Court went the other way, saying that
a federal judge does not have the right to stop
a program. Now it can be appealed and it will
go to an appeals court, which again is not going
to stop the program until the Supreme Court rules on
it or says no, thank you. In the appeals court
(04:46):
decision will prevail. And here's the argument makes a lot
of sense, except the argument on the other side, because
when you have a president that can go like over
the top with an executive order that is clearly crazy
or make no sense, then a single court judge should
be able to stop it. Case in point, we're talking
(05:08):
about birthright.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
What's the word I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
For, Yeah, birthright, a native birthright where if you're born
in the United States, you are a citizen of the
United States according to the Fourteenth Amendment. Straight out. Therefore,
anybody born here of an illegal migrant, anybody doesn't matter.
If you're born here, you are a citizen of the
United States. Right there in the Fourteenth Amendment, it says that, well,
(05:34):
the president is arguing no birthright. And here's why, because
the law was intended to only free children of slaves
who were not citizens. And what he is now saying
is that was the intent. Now it's being used for
anybody who comes to the United States has a kid.
(05:56):
Therefore you have a citizen on your hands. And the
President is saying no, no. His argument is, let's interpret
the Constitution differently than it has been interpret and therefore
these kids are not citizens and ostensibly can be deported.
And what happens after the fact, it goes on appeal,
and finally the appeals of the Supreme Court says, nope, kids.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That are born here are citizens.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
In the meantime, you got thousands of kids that have
been tossed out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
There really is.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
There are both sides of this one, and both sides
have an argument. It's fascinating stuff. But the fourteenth Amendment
that was passed right after a Civil War, I think
it was eighteen sixty eight says if you are born here,
or you're if you're born here, or you're the child
of a natural a naturalized citizen, you are an American.
(06:48):
Well it doesn't seem me that way, all right, Go
figure fascinating and it's going to go on, by the way,
and the President rightly said, it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Huge win firm elf and it is huge win.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
As he said, there's been no president who has ever
had so many lawsuits filed against executive orders than anybody else,
proof positive that he is a victim of this huge
deep state and the radical left wing judiciary, leaving out
the fact that there's been no president who has issued
this many executive orders in the first several months of
(07:27):
a presidency. So that argument goes both ways. All right,
let's go ahead and take a phone call starting with you, Dave,
welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Oh hi, should I whistle blow on my company built?
What I get rewarded? They use AI? It's a telemarketing company.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And why should why can't why can't they not use AI?
What's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Well, it's a telemarketing company. Apparently you can't use AI
to make phone calls. The other party has to really
sign off.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, great, I get AI phone calls fifteen twenty twenty
five times a day.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Well, uh okay, Well apparently that's the rule for a
telemarketing company.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Are you to me?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And how do you know there.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
How do you know they're using AI because I work
for the company and it says AI right on the
right on the when they're using it.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Uh, well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, they're calling people up and they're saying this is AI.
I'm a little confused here.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, it's a computer.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's not a person.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, I understand that, now, I get it. That's of course,
it's a computer. By the way, without AI, it's a computer.
You get so many recorded phone calls, always have and
AI has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't know how AI connects with it, because that
can be data mining and can figure out that I'm
more apt to buy something than not using AI. But
I don't know where the illegality of using AI is.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
And you're saying, well, putting that aside, putting that aside.
The company is not completely transparent.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, none of them are whistle.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Blow, none of them are.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Day Okay, what if I whistle blow and the company
goes bankrupt after I whistle blow? Do I get rewarded
for whistle blowing and owner?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well not if they don't have any money.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And okay, so I just don't understand where and maybe
I'm wrong. Maybe there is law on the books that
says a telemarketing company cannot use artificial intelligence in determining
whether or not someone gets called or what kind of
phone calls news to me. But the answer is if
there's no money, if a company is bankrupt, you're not
going to get any money on whistle blowing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
So sure, why not give it a shot?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Do you have an attorney?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I could, no chance, no chance, Nope, there is no
attorney I know that would take that one on. Not
even close.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
All right, let's take our first break. This is Handle
on the Law, and this is KFI handle.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Here on a Saturday morning, phone number eight hundred five
two zero one five three four. Eight hundred five two
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Speaker 2 (10:25):
Marginal legal advice. Where I tell you you have absolutely
no case, Peter, let's see if you have a case,
let's go for it. What can I do for you?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Hey, I was on the protest June eight. I got
Ronfi arrest. They say I started the fire, but you
was the bush like already got light up. I was
there trying to use the water to put off the fire,
like a water bottle, and you didn't put off. Oh,
(10:57):
and then there's no other water bottle I can use,
and they tried to shoot the rubber buddhists to me.
So I got put the wire and then I walked away.
And then later on they.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I see okay, I see. So uh you're there with
a water bottle. You couldn't use the water bottle. And
so let me get this right. You're walking you got shot, Okay,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You got to make it a little clearer to me because.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
There is at so when we when we pro protesting,
they do tarragas and flashbround.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
No, I understand they did. I get that that's what
they do. But I'm talking about you specifically.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
What happened.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
There's a fire and you okay, there's a fire, and
then what.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Uh the fire is over the fence. It's hard to reach.
So okay, I tried to pop shot right the water and.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It didn't it didn't work. Okay, it didn't work.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, So therefore you're walking away from the fire, correct, yes, okay,
and then you get shot and then you get shot
with a rubber bullet.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Is that correct?
Speaker 8 (12:05):
No?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I got shot at when I was watering water try
to put out the wolf put all the Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You got shot with a water bullet. Okay, water ball okay,
fair enough?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And and and what happened after that?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
And and then I didn't know they're gonna chase me,
but I got on my car, I started driving, and
then they chased me later and they arrest me afterwards.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And I assume you were booked and released. Uh, and
you're looking at a charge.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I got bailed out, okay, but you're still.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
You were still booked.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
How much was the bail h fifty?
Speaker 6 (12:43):
WHOA, there's an insurance that I need to pay the
bail guy, They said.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, no, you're gonna pay five thousand. You're gonna pay
five thousand dollars for the pleasure. Okay, And you were
arresting you.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
With fIF I paid fifty thousand, okay, gonna you're.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Gonna get that back.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
So let me ask this, Uh, what what's your question?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Let's start with that.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
So I'm gonna be August eighth to be on the court.
I'm gonna play no guilty, and then I'm going to
try to file, uh get a public defender to to
because I'm in low income.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
How did you get fifty dollars if your low income.
My parents okay, your parents came all right, got it? Yeah,
all right, And you're a public defender. And now what's
your question? I got it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What's I'm trying.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
I'm trying to win the case. Yeah, I have no evidence.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I promise support with him.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, I have no like but the NN I should
call me on tape.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh you can.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You can subpoena CNN tape. You can subpoena that video.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Okay, that's and that's a a police body camera.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, you'll be able to get that too. Okay, Yeah,
you're gonna be able to get all the video.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
So I've heard there's gonna be a two faith So
first one is I'm getting no guilty, try to get
the evidence to get the lawyers, and then I'm trying
to sue them for wrongfully arrest.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Why because police, I understand. But the police are able
their defense. There's limited immunity where they say they're acting
in good faith.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
It was crazy out there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
You looked like you were part of it, and they're
going to argue we couldn't tell you're walking away. This
thing is blowing up. Uh, there's no way you're probably
gonna win. You're probably gonna get off. I can't imagine
that if you go ahead and subpoena everything and the
DA sees it, I can't imagine that you're not going
to be let go. The charge is going to be dropped.
(14:59):
I'm almost certain based on what you say. But suing
them for wrongful arrest, that's not going to happen. That's
just that's just not happening.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Okay, let's say the stab back no guilty, I say
I win the case. I'll get a fifty thousand dollars back.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yep, No, you're gonna get a fifty thousand dollars back.
That doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What you're gonna get fifty thousand dollars back because you
bail is to make sure you show up. That's all
it is. It has nothing to do whether you're guilty
or not. It just says we're gonna make sure that
Peter shows up. Give us fifty thousand dollars, and that
means that you're probably not gonna skip bail, and as
soon as you show up, you get your fifty grand back.
(15:40):
Oh right, all right, and you're not gonna be able
to sue by the way, that that is not going
to happen. Zail hi Zl welcome, Hi.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yes, and I went to recently.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
I was in it in the hospital through er.
Speaker 10 (16:02):
They did a cat scan and within the summary of
the cat scan found out as far as it diagnoses
on my part, it said that my uterus was surgically removed.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Whoa when?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
How long?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Oh? How long ago? Almost? Okay, almost twenty years ago.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
But I'm just now finding out that.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
By the way, why would anybody remove your uterus just
for fun? Like a doctor had nothing else to do
and they pulled, uh, you know, straws and found out
who was going to remove your units.
Speaker 9 (16:37):
Well, when I went in to see this specialist, before
I went in to have a DNC, I was having
severe minstrel cramping hands. The doctor rectmant a DNC, going
to see the doctor.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, here's what I get it. No, I get it. Now,
let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's there's forms usually sign that says if the doctor
discover something in which they have to go beyond normally,
you agree to that. That's dealing with the tumors. And
all kinds of things. Don't know if it considers on
maybe you have a serious or had a very serious
matter in which it was appropriate to remove.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Your uterus and you signed it off.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know, idea, you don't have the consent for
him in front of you, not from twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I know that.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
That I went and got from the doctor two weeks ago,
and the doctor's all the notes from that surgery said
I had a DMC.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Oh and not a removal of the uterus.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, Okay, you know I don't know enough about this, clearly,
because there are a lot of moving pieces here in
terms of the defense, because you know they're going to
defend it, and there's a statute of limitation issue that
I don't know if it would fly or not, whether.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's been told. But there's enough.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
There's enough to say, oh that you want to talk
to a medical malpractice attorney just to see if anything's there.
I don't know how unusual. I don't know enough about that.
If you've been listening this show for a length of time,
you've heard that once or twice. But that sounds to
me like you want to talk to a med malle
attorney because that.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I mean, that's reasonably serious. Well, let me ask how
old were you when you had the uters removed. I
can't have a kid anyway, you know, it'd be very difficult.
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
You could, Yeah, all right, were you at that point?
Did you have all the ability to have a child?
For example, had you been.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
Spade nor ned?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, yeah, no, I was fine, but it was like
four months after that? Alright, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Okay, all right, yeah, I think there's enough there to
at least have a conversation with a med Malle attorney.
Do I think much is going to come out of it?
If I had to guess, No, But I've certainly been
wrong many many times. All right, we just had a
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You're listening to bill handle on demand from KFI a
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
And this is KFI handle here on Saturday morning phone number.
We're getting some lines in, but there's still lines open.
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. Eight
hundred five two zero one five three four. It's the
number to call and let's keep on moving on. This
is handle on the law. Robert, Hello, Robert, welcome.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Yes, yes, it is visual to have a camera decide
the elevator commercial building to check down his custody has
a lot of money, and do we have to have
a permit from the city. We already have cameras outside.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yet it is perfectly legal to have a camera inside
of an elevator in a commercial building. It happens all
the time. There is no issue. You don't need a
permit at all. I would be The only thing I
would be a little concerned about is masturbating in the elevator.
That's a little bit problematic, although we have a good
(21:32):
defense if they charge you with masturbating in public because
you're arguing it's in an elevator.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, no, no, that's not your problem.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Medical building, medical building.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well then you can argue, well, then you can argue
it was a medical procedure you were doing either in
vitro fertilization like I did.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But it wasn't and I didn't produce a specimen in
an elevator. I did it at the doctor's office. The
bottom line, Robert, is yeah, you can put cameras in a.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
D access to whoever he's doing it. If he's coming
to see you like.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Uh yeah, well you find out and you throw them out,
that's all.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
And if he's doing graffiti, you call the police. Here's
the proof. You're fine. Yeah, okay, Yeah, there's no problem
with that anybody wants Yeah, no problem at all.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, yeah, you don't sue him. You haven't tossed out.
I mean, there's nothing to sue. I mean, what are
you gonna see him for cleaning.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Up the mess?
Speaker 10 (22:30):
No?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
No, no, they're gonna sue us.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Why are they gonna Why are they gonna sue you?
They're the ones that are doing it. They're not gonna
sue you. You're allowed to have a commercial, uh a,
an elevator camera.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
All day long? All right, Dave, Hello, Dave, welcome.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
There, Yes, sir, Yes, So, I used to work at
a hospital for two twenty years and did a couple
of different things. Held a regular tech job and a
director job and another administrative job over the years. I
got laid off last year and didn't have the best
(23:18):
relationship with the nude director that had come in, and
over the I've moved on, got another job, better job,
but I stayed friends with a couple of my ex
coworkers who have been telling me over the year this
past year that they've just been, for whatever reason, bad
mouthing me. Just these couple of people, the director, and
(23:42):
you know, I signed a thing that I wasn't going
to say anything bad about the hospital, which I went
because I had a good job there, but for whatever reason,
they had a thing for me. And a couple of
several of my co workers have been telling me over
this past year, and I've let it, tried to let
it go that you know, they just continually have whatever
heaven saying stuff about me. You know, even one of
(24:05):
them had a birthday party and she's wondering why I
if she was inviting me to her birthday party. Anyway,
I was letting it all go, trying to let it
go until last week. I went to visit a friend
in the hospital, and uh, he was a friend, but
also I do lead services at a local congregation. He
(24:31):
was one of the congregants.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
This is going long, This is going long.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
They so basically, I'm I'm going in the hospital, I
do my visit, coming back out, and the security card
says I just got a call from the director of
the department I was in saying I am not allowed
in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
All right, and which I'm all right, now.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
What well, I'm just wondering what I'm just wondering if
there's any kind of a defamation.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, not really, No.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, he can say I don't want this guy in
the hospital. You can do that all day long because
he doesn't like you, who doesn't trust you, or whatever.
And as far as you being bad mouth, does it
affect your job at all?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know? I mean, is it defamation? Of course?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
His defamation? Yeah, I mean it is defamation. So what
today people badmouth each other all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Let me ask you, how many people do you think
bad mouth me out there.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All the time?
Speaker 9 (25:31):
Bill?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That is correct, That is correct.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I'm not allowed to come in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He's allowed to do that. He's the director. He is
the director. He is allowed to do that. You do
not have a right.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
To go into that hospital unless you have an emergency situation,
unless you're being brought in on a gurney or an
ambulance brought to you in. And somehow the director says
I don't want this guy treated that he can't do.
But walking in the door for a birthday, Uh no.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
No, it doesn't work that way. And to your question, yes,
it is defamation. Yep. Absolutely, Laura, Hello, Laura, welcome.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yello.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Bill.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
I'm hoping you can help me. The issue I'm getting
with is I want to know if there's medical liability.
I'm an epileptic and I had an appointment with the
TA on Christmas Eve and I told him that I
was out of my medication and he didn't do anything
(26:36):
about it. And then I finally called the office and
I said, listen, I'm out of medication. Well in that
period of time, I fractured my nose and fractured a rib.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I mean, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, no, that's uh. Now
we're getting into pretty good damages here. So let me
get the timeline correct. You ran out of medication, and
you called the pharmacy or you called whoever the doctor
to refill it.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay, to refill it.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
All right, So from the time well, how long did
it take them to refill it? From the time that
they called it in? How long a period was at Laura.
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Over a month?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It took them a month for you to get it filled.
Speaker 12 (27:26):
The do everything for doctors now, yeah, no, for the
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It doesn't matter if basically it's the doctor, so don't
worry about that part. And it doesn't matter if it's
if it's a physician's assisted or not. The question is
you called it that you're running out and they took
a month?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Now? Did do you know if they went ahead and
called it in and it was the pharmacy that took
a month, or was it the other way around?
Speaker 12 (27:55):
It is the other way around, And the problem is
I have to have surgery.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, no, no, let me no, no, no, listen, Laura, listen.
Based on what you say, there's a case there a month.
Why didn't you call him earlier?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Why don't you say, hey, I'm running out of medication.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
I called him two weeks because I had emergency medication,
but I don't tell doctors that I just why not
have emergency medication? And because I was ludslide and the
people couldn't get a FI department couldn't get up to
the doon it for two and.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
A half days.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You couldn't get out.
Speaker 12 (28:33):
We couldn't get out, and they couldn't get it, got it.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They wouldn't even let you out for they wouldn't even
let you off for emergency medication. That's kind of interesting.
All right, You've got a lot of moving pieces.
Speaker 12 (28:43):
You couldn't get through the canyons.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
All right, Okay, I got it, and maybe that's their argument.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That's the defense is we couldn't get through the pharmacy
or the doctor called it in and we couldn't get through.
That's a pretty good defense, don't you think, Laura.
Speaker 12 (29:00):
Oh no, the mudslide was nine years ago. I was
just stating that. That's why I have emergency medic eights
tell the doctor about all right.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, okay, right there, we stop it. The mudslide was
nine years ago, and okay, where do you go with that?
And she had I mean, we'd been a lot more entertaining.
If she had made this phone call after going into
a seizure and epileptic seizure and flopped on the ground
like a fish, that would have been an interesting phone call.
(29:31):
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Handle here on a Saturday morning, number eight hundred five
two zero one five three four. If you want I
was about to say, good legal advice. If you want
legal advice, eight hundred and five to zero one five
three four is the number to call. All right, welcome
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Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mary Anne, Hello, Marianne Hie.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
Yes, yes, my name is Marianne. Yes, my sister. My
sister passed away sometime last year, and in the meantime,
her brother in law is trying to claim a portion
of the estate. And we, you know, we were told
(31:36):
that because we were blood relatives, that we're the ones
that are entitled. My sister, my nephew, and niece and myself,
four of us. Now they're trying to come in and
say that they should get awarded a portion.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Of of course they are, of course they are. Okay, Marianne,
we start with how much money? Are we talking about?
Speaker 13 (31:57):
Million? Two million?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Two million dollars?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Okay, So that's enough money for anybody to come in
and make a case. This is why if you listen
to the show at all, and people go, Bill, can
I do my own will? And I always ask how
much money? Well, a million dollars, half a million dollars,
three million dollars? I go, why in God's name wouldn't
you go to an attorney to make this thing air tight? Okay,
(32:22):
assuming that I'm assuming there's a will or a trust here, right, Marianne. Yes, Okay,
let's start with brother in law has absolutely no case.
Ok Okay, brother in law has no rights. What's going
on is brother in law has found an attorney who
is going to make a case, make a claim, and
(32:44):
usually they do that and in order what happens is
the estate who's ever running it, decides, all right, we're
gonna pay him some money because it's cheaper than fighting
this thing. It's simply a business decision. And the Sleezeball
attorney and Sleezball brother in law walk away with let's say, okay,
it's two million dollars and tells you give me fifty
(33:06):
thousand dollars. I'm gonna walk away because it's gonna cost
you more than fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
And there are attorneys that would fight it. So you
have a couple of choices.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You tell them to go pound sand and he goes, okay,
go ahead fight it. Tell the sleeves Ball attorney, okay,
we'll go to court. I don't care, no problem. You're
gonna lose, you're gonna be You're gonna have to go
to court, and you're gonna have to do all the work.
And I understand we're gonna have to pay for an attorney,
but so be it, or you write the check. You're
being extorted and quite often when Yeah, it depends on
(33:40):
how you feel about this.
Speaker 13 (33:42):
Now, if I would have known that he was helping
my sister that died after she died, I would say,
you know, maybe he should be important, but he never even.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, Marianne, don't Yeah, I
don't care. I don't care what the reasons are. It's
real simple. Here's the law. He's not entitled. He's filing acclaim.
They want to get money.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
They want to have a settlement because it's cheaper they're
going to argue than you going to court, and you
write them a check.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And it's a business decision, as I said.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I and when I had my business, when I had
my surrogacy business, one of my employees had we fired
and sued me for discrimination and made it up.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And you know we did. We settled.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
We wrote a check because it was far cheaper to
write a check that it was to litigate. That's that's
the issue. Welcome to the world of the law. Isn't
that fabulous?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Tom? Hello? Tom? Welcome?
Speaker 11 (34:40):
Yeah, welcome Bill. I was assaulted by a city worker
while I was walking to work on the sidewalk and
I was just looking how to navigate through this process.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, Well, you're walking along the sidewalk and then some
city worker says, ooh, there's a guy over there I
want to beat up, right, is that what happened?
Speaker 11 (35:00):
I walked down this sidewalk all the time. It looked
like he was looking at us. I thought he was
the owner of the commercial building looking at the water meter.
Maybe it was running a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Okay, what did you let me ask you? Why do
you think he assaulted you?
Speaker 13 (35:12):
Tom?
Speaker 11 (35:14):
I think he was drunk or crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I was, so there's no there's no reason for it,
is what you're saying.
Speaker 11 (35:20):
I basically walked between his would I see as a
city vehicle. I'm kind of just I'm just thinking, all.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Right, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom Tom.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Okay, real simple, you were on the sidewalk when you
were walking and the city worker attacked you.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Correct, that's simple, Okay, got it? And how badly were
you banged up? How badly were you hurt?
Speaker 11 (35:42):
I'm pretty good health. So he just bruised my elbow
and spilt my coffee.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, that's unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I mean it would have felt much better if he
had done your elbow, so your entire arm would have
been cut off.
Speaker 11 (35:54):
And that would have been if I would have been
knocked down and injured, like severely, there was the possibility
of being injured, so would.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, I know, but there's a possibility. But you know what,
and I.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Always say, you know what, if my grandmother had balls,
she would be my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
There's a possibility it didn't happen. You weren't injured that much?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Charge?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, it is, it is. It's an assault charge. The
problem is and it's a misdemeanor assault. You call the
cops on that one.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Are you gonna get any money?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
No?
Speaker 11 (36:21):
But you can make him money.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Okay, Then here's what you do if you want to
give him grief. Here's what you do. You make a complaint,
You call the cops, you call who's ever the supervisor
and number.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Then there's nothing else you can do. There's nothing you've
done at all. You've done, You've done everything there is
to do. Hey, I want to tell you about chronic pain.
If you happen to live in chronic pain pain all
the time, or know someone who does, or treats someone,
you know how miserable can be. I happen to live
with someone who suffers from chronic pain. Uh, my wife,
(36:57):
and it kills me to see her self that much.
And so I'll tell you what she did to deal
with it is she created the Pain Game Podcast. The
Pain Game Podcast is about dealing with pain, is about
dealing with trauma. And does it help you?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Bet? Now? Does it relieve pain.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Sometimes depending on the treatment they talk about, but more importantly,
it helps you deal with the pain. Every episode ends
with a message of hope. By the way, there are
that she talks to experts. I say, why don't you
do ABC and D And there's some huge successes there.
But you're gonna understand that the show is about giving
pain purpose. I know that sounds weird, but once you
(37:38):
listen to it, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's
the Pain Game Podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Believe me.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
It helps a lot of people chronic pain. Yeah, listen
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