Ten Commandments in Southern Schools

Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.

Episode Transcript

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This is Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal, marginal legal advice,
where I Bill Hand will tell you, whatever your name is,
you have absolutely no case, which I really enjoy doing.
Let me tell you what's going on in Louisiana. Louisiana
is a Deep South state, very conservative, very republican, lots

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of well, when you talk about very conservative and very republican,
usually you can connect that to a truly fundamental Christianity
view of life and of law. So Louisiana passed the
law requiring all schools to post the Ten Commandments in
the classrooms. And we've had case after a case of

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the separation of church and state issue, prayer in school,
for example, which was deemed unconstitutional based on separation of
church and state. Even a moment of silence in the classroom,
not separation of church and state. And now you're talking,
we're talking about Louisiana straight out saying the Ten Commandments

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will be posted in the classroom.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Well, what do you do if you're of the kids
an atheist.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
And doesn't believe in God and doesn't believe in the
Ten Commandments? Why should he be forced Why should the
kid be forced to look at that? Or how about this,
a kid is a Satanist. You know, family believes in
the devil, which is constitutionally permissible. You can't stop someone
from doing that. So the family says, you have the

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Ten Commandments, I want to.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Picture of the Devil. Oh, you can't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So clearly to me, it's a separation of church and state.
And the folks who are religious, read usually Christian religious,
are really trying over and over again to get a
religious viewpoint put in the public schools. And this is
what Louisiana did. Now, why would they do that? Well,

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because there is a new Supreme Court that is utterly conservative,
and hopefully that this Supreme Court, which believes in freedom
of religion more than a police and separation of church
and state that I'll tell you, is going to go
the other way and finally let us put the Ten
Commandments up. Okay, so far it hasn't worked. So far,

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the lower court set district court said.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Can't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And now you have the Appellate Court, a panel of
three judges, they have ruled that putting up the Ten
Commandments in the classroom public classrooms is unconstitutional.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can't do it.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
And now of course it's going to be given to
the Supreme Court, which is going to have a couple
of choices.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
One they're just going to ignore it.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
They're just they don't want to listen to it, which
means that the Appellate court ruling holds.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And it is unconstitutional. Or they're going to hear it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yep, we want to hear it, which means that at
some point, probably next term, they're going to hear it.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And could they go the other way?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
They could I don't know how constitutionally speaking, but they could,
or they can decide yay or nay, and not say
anything about it. Nope, not constitutional or yep, constitutional either way.
So they got their choices, and if I had to
guess which way they're gonna go, it's still going to

(04:23):
hold a requirement that every school room have a copy
of the Ten Commandments up there. I believe that that
violates separation of church estate.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
But that's me.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know, I'm not particularly religious, I'm really not. I mean,
I would annotate the Ten Commandments, you know, for example,
committeeing adultery.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
You it's the death penalty.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
And in parentheses, I go, oh, come on, really, how
many people gonna die? Come on, honor your father and
your mother. Otherwise you die, because that's the death penalty too.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
In the old days.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
They go, come on, now, how many people honor their
You know, you never tell your parents.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
You're horrible. You're terrible. I hate you. You die. Well,
let's take some phone calls and do it, all right, Joe,
you're up? Welcome, Hello, Joe?

Speaker 4 (05:14):
How you doing? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
What can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I have a problem. I went to a medical center.
The emergency room brought me there, and I'm sitting there
forever in the emergency room, and I decided to walk
out the door to take a few minutes walking. When

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I walked back in, there's this guy at the door.
He goes, do you have a lighter. I go, yes,
I have a lighter. He goes, put it in this contator.
So I put it in that contat. I sat in
the room two more hours and I go, I'm done
sitting here. It's like I went there at five, it's

(05:57):
nine o'clock. I'm leaving. And I went to look in
the being and my lighter is gone. This lighter, I.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Know, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And you're going to tell me that it has huge
sentimental value that in the war it saved your life
because a bullet went through.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
A You're totally wrong. I'm on a deserted island. I
have to light a fire. This lighter is my life.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, So how did you get to Joe? So you're
living on a deserted island, how do you make the
phone call?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
It's a that's what this lighter is means to me.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Oh, it means to you that I know if you
were on a deserted island, you would have the you
would have the deed of the lighter.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
But you're not on a deserted island, are you, Joe?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
No, but we know.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
There you go, wow, Joe the lighter.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, nah, there you go wherever in the boy scouts Joe, Yes.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, then you know.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Then they teach you how to make a fire with
like the sticks and they kN lean because I can
make a fire without a lighter I had.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
I had to rub two of you together to get
a good fire.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, that's correct. So why can't you do that if
you're on a deserted island.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
That's not the point.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, of course not. I know, Joe.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
This is one of the most important cases I have
ever I've ever listened to. I couldn't get my lighter back,
and if I was on a deserted island, I would.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Need it, Joe.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Okay, handles understand.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
All right.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
So Joe, if you were on a deserted island, you
would need it.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's probably true.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Now, Joe, if you weren't a moron and didn't call me,
that would be a different story.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But you know what, you.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Are a more and you know what light yourself on
fire for all I care.

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Welcome back. More handle on the law, marginal legal advice.
Hello Carol, you're up. Hello, Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Okay, First of all, I want to tell you I
adore you been listening for many, many years. You're so smart,
a little wicked, but I understand because you can't say wait,
this is.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
A good start. This is a very good start to
this question. I must tell you.

Speaker 6 (10:25):
Okay, all right, I'm married and my husband died. He
had a house in Canada which I inherited. I haven't
been there in over four years, so I decided to sell.
And the new people have been in there for a month,
a little over a month, and now they're saying they're
going to assume me because the heater doesn't get as

(10:47):
hot as that it should. Now I haven't been there,
but I've had people watching the house, and I realtor
everybody that's been there says the house is very warm
and comfortable.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
If I had known that it wasn't working, I of
course would have fixed it because you have to have
heat in Cansada.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, of course, I mean you have to have heat.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You have to have heat here, even here in southern
California and it's warm, but you still have to have heat.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's considered a habitability issue. Okay.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
So, and now they're trying to assume me because they
say I knew it wasn't working, which is so untrue.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, let me ask you there was an inspection done.
I'm assuming right.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
Yes there was.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Who did the inspection? You or them?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
I don't know they did.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Oh, then you're fine. That's their inspector. And there's there.
I don't think there's any issue, Carol. And I don't
know if the law is in Canada or stricter than
they are here. My guess is not I would yeah,
I would just say no. And here is the problem
is they're going to sue you. Now they have to

(11:54):
pay for lawyer to do that. However, you have to
pay for a lawyer to defend, and now.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Are they willing to.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, theoretically you could, Yeah, you probably would, or you
had asked to do it via zoom, you could.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Probably do that. So how much would a new heating
system cost? Carol? What do you think? Oh, gosh, I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Someone told me probably six to ten thousand.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay, So now you've got a couple of choices.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is a very good question, because this is not the
first rodeo that everybody's anybody's been around. Under these circumstances,
you can tell them to go pound sand and simply defend.
And I don't know if your homeowners Associate Homeowners' insurance
would cover it. If it does, your home free, so
to speak, because you own the house. You got to

(12:47):
find that out. And I don't know the answer. Does
the homeowners well, the coverage stops, but does it continue
for things that happened before you sold the house?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You have to call your insurance agent. I don't know
the answer that.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The other situation is you call them up and maybe
you want to negotiate a deal, you know, and say, hey, listen, guys,
you're gonna sue.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I'm going to defend. I think you're going to lose.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm sure your lawyer is going to tell you you're
going to win, because your lawyer likes getting four or
five or six hundred dollars an hour, and in the reality,
when you lose, he still gets his money. So do
you really think you're getting good advice? This is what
I would tell them. Whether they're getting good advice or not,
it doesn't matter. This is just a little bit of

(13:34):
ammunition on your side. And then let's let's say it's
six grand.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Okay, let's take a lower end of it. You just say, okay,
let me do this. We split it.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know, we split it, and that makes sense. Did
you get a good price for the house, Carol?

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Not as good as I thought I would, but yes.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
All right, so let's put it this way. Let's say
you split it. Now, let's get practical. Let's say you
split it. Would you have sold the house for three
thousand dollars less?

Speaker 6 (14:06):
No, they made me come down fifty thousand. They're very aggressive.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay, well then you know then those are your choices.
Now let me tell you what I do. I tell
people to go pound sand. I had a partner and
I had told you in a previous segment that I
got sued by an employee and we settled because it
was cheaper and who had no case, by the way,
who is? It was cheaper than going to court. And

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I told my partner, I want to go to court.
I don't mind spending the money, even I it's going
to cost me.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't want to. I don't want to be held
up and extorted like this.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
But she prevailed because it was a business decision and
I caved on that one. So those are your choices,
and it's not fun to be in that position. It
really isn't great question, by the way, really, And also
it helped that she likes me and started telling me
how great great I am. When we started the call,
Oh hello, Nico, Nico, are you playing drums?

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I am sorry Bill.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Here, Okay, hold on, Nico, Nico, stop right there. I
have been doing this show for decades.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Okay, yeah, all right. I want to congratulate you on
a first.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I have never had a phone call while someone was
playing the drums.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
That's a big congratulations.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
My name, my name is Nico Renzuli. I am a
proud second generation Hollywood. My father's Frank Grenzuoli is a
longtime guest of the Tim Conway Junior Show. And I
have a Italian American tale to tell you.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
There better be there better be a legal question in
there and quickly on Easter.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
On Easter, my sister told me to kill myself and
she pushed me, and then I grabbed her, assaulted her.
My two older brothers, my older brother, my younger brother
tackled me. My little brother kicked me in the ribs.
The cops were called. I ran away to my apartment.
My two brothers followed me, assaulted me again. My little
brother broke my leg with a metal pipe, and I
was arrested for three days. Now. The courts want me

(16:08):
to do a rapid diversion program to get out of it. However,
I have mental problems myself and I had to go
to the Vaness Recovery House this past week and I
missed court date. On top of all this, I may
or may not have accidentally slashed someone's tires and I
have a warren out for my arrest in Burp.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Do you how do you accidentally slash someone's tires?

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Nico.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
I don't know if I can legally admit to anything
on the air.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Okay, oh okay. So let me put it this way.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I am accused of slashing someone's tires.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
I've been accused of slashing A detective called me from
a private number and told me to surrender myself. But
I got scared, did a bunch of drugs, and then
went to rehab.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Okay, so what It's a good story, by the way,
So what's your question?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
What should I do?

Speaker 7 (16:54):
Should I do the rapidt.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
You get a lawyer, Yeah, a lawyer.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Bade me a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I have no money, that's you go for the What
you do is you're you're entitled to a public defender.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
That's the point.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
I have one. They want me to go to trial,
but I don't know if I should do that.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, do you have to rely on the public defender?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
If your PD wants to go to trial, and usually
they want to settle, then your PD is deciding you've
got a great case. Uh, there's no place the other
side can go where the prosecution can go. Now, I
understand now, and I understand that. And you may just
want to take the diversion program where you don't go
to prison.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
That is not a legal question.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
That is a question as to what you're going to
do with your life, Nico. If you have a public
defender who is already assigned to you, then I'm going
to tell you listen to your PD, because I don't
know enough about the case.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
And if a PD is.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Willing to go to trial, which they don't usually because
they're so overloaded.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Wow, interesting story, you say the least.

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Speaker 3 (19:59):
Hi, Lonnie, it's your turn, Yo, you're up yo yo, Okay.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
Two months ago I had extreme pressure down around my
appendix area and uh two hours later I threw up
and had diarrhea went into the er. The RS did
a bladder scan. They said, well, you're full of urn.
We're gonna put a cather in, sent me, sent me home.
That was ten hours after waiting.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
In the R.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 8 (20:30):
Then the six days later, I went into the er again,
still have an extreme amount of pressure and pain. Seeing
the same er doctor. They took the cather out and
sent me home. Did no no go test other than
a blood test. Five days later, I made an appointment
to see urgent care. Urgent Care says, let me check

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your prostinate because they thought I had a large prostinate
because I was a cather says, if you don't have
it in a large prostinate, well, I'm in pain. Got a
prescription for tile Hall the cocaine. Sent me home. A
week later, I'm still having this pain. I see another
urgent care doctor. She says, we need to do some

(21:14):
blood tests and a catcan. This is basically twelve days later.
He says, your appendix was burst sometime way back. We're
all set for emergency surgery. Drive to the hospital. He says, well,
you're so infected, we can't go and do surgery. We're
going to admit you in the hospital, they fed me
antibiotics for seven days, did a cat scan, and sent

(21:37):
me home on pills for three weeks. B ant a body,
have another capcan. Two weeks later. The catcan I had
the hospital when I was discharged showed everything had shrunk
on the infection and nothing else other than that. Two

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weeks later, I have another catcam.

Speaker 9 (22:03):
And they say, well, we see something on your liver now,
so I got an appointment to see that and I
I just think they missed appendix basically two months ago
and causes affection twelve days later.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, interesting timeline, Lonnie. A lot of people were involved
in missing this thing, and based on what you say
or how you describe it it, I would use the
word malpractice with I don't know what one hundred and
fifty defendants that did this well, I mean clearly they're

(22:40):
the way you describe it, doctors missing it, burst appendix
could have caught it. I'm assuming. Yeah, it's real simple.
So your question is what to do? What to do
about it?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, Google, it's a medical malpractice case, Lonnie, Okay, that's it.
It's that simple, you know, medical malpractice. The only thing
is you're going to be so I don't know how
many doctors you're going to be suing, and everybody is
going to be pointing the finger at everybody else. And
this is about as complicated as it gets. And I've

(23:15):
never heard of that many doctors malpracticing.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I know, there's something really weird about that, to say
the least. Uh, Louise Hi, Louise.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
Hi, Bill, Yes, okay, So.

Speaker 10 (23:32):
Money in a in a safety pas a box, okay, And.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
I if I put my will in there, well they
follow it if I die?

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, of course, yeah, I mean they just have someone
has to find it.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I mean the whole point, you see, let me explain
how the let me explain how, Louis Louise, how these
things work. Uh, you write a will and then you
leave whoever you want to leave your assets to after
you die. It's that simple, because if you do it
before you die, you're just giving it to somebody.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Is that complicated?

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Right?

Speaker 8 (24:12):
But what if it's not a person, it's organization.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter whoever gets hold of the will that.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
The instructions have to be left.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
So who is it's just a will, it's not a trust, correct,
That's correct?

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Okay? Do you have an executor. Have you named an executor?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
No?

Speaker 11 (24:33):
Do I have to?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yes, you do name an executor. And then what you
do is you could put the original in a safe
deposit box.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
A lot of people do that, and then you give
the executor a copy of it. And if there's a
lawyer who wrote up the will, the lawyer keeps.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
A copy of it.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And the one in the safe deposit box, which is
probably the original, the wet signature one that you signed.
Although I have a trust, family trust, and my lawyer
has a copy, the trustee has a copy. I've got
a copy in a safe deposit box, and I've signed
every one of them.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
They're all wet signatures, and so they're all original.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And if it turns out the safe deposit box, let's
say it's not in there, well, the lawyer or the
executor has a copy, which is deemed as good. If
the affidavit is we can't find the original. Yeah, it's
not simple, but but get a lawyer write it up.
How much money are you going to leave to organization? Louise, Oh,

(25:38):
I know about okay, and what organization?

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Well, some various animal organizations.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You're one of those animal people. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, I have someone in my life who leaves everything
to animal, people to animals, just loves it. But okay, yeah,
you can do the will on your own.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I mean I.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Wouldn't pay money for a thirty thousand dollars thirty thousand
dollars state will, but you can go on the internet
and do it for a few hundred bucks. But name
an executor and just have copied you know what. The
internet will explain it to you. Just go online to
do that.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Sue Hi, Sue Hey Bail.

Speaker 10 (26:21):
Thanks you, yes man, having my colin on the weekend.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Thank you? What can I do for you?

Speaker 10 (26:26):
I have a two part question. My dad was in
a memory care and three years ago, while he was there,
he died because they weren't managing his diabetes and so
we went into a diabetic coman died. So it's been
three years and my first part of the question is
do I have a case?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, Well, let me ask why'd you wait three years?

Speaker 10 (26:46):
I mean, just dealing with grief, managing the estate, just
living and working out of town in two different cities.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
I was overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, well, if the satural limitations has gone, none of
that matters.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
And I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think it is three years for medical malpractice, which
is what the case is.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Is it over three years or is it under three years?

Speaker 2 (27:10):
And we're talking about a specific date, I mean like
June twenty two exactly.

Speaker 10 (27:15):
It was in June, late late June.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
So late June.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So you're I mean, you're still okay, You've got to
talk to a medical malpractice attorney, like right now, and
it could be even two years the statute. I don't
have it in front of me, but I mean, you're right.
We're on a weekend and you literally you're you're on
top of it. So yes, So your first part question is,
I don't know about the statute, but if it's a

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three year statute, you've got days to pull this together
and get it filed, and a mal practice journey you
will pick that up and then figure it out.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Okay. Next question.

Speaker 10 (27:52):
Related to that, the estate's then settled among all six
kids and it's a done thing. So now if there
is a case and if there is money received, does
it go just to me or does it go to
technically in a state.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Again, No, it depends. No, the state doesn't get it.
It's the state isn't suing for wrongful death. It's the
people the family is suing for wrongful death. You are
suing as an individual.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Your brother is suing, or your.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Sister or a spouse is suing.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So the immediate family, each individual has a right to
sue for wrongful death.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
All right.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
So yeah, you want to really try for you have
to talk to a medical malpracticetorney. You get to get
these things filed, and you blow the statute and you're done.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
You're finished.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Now, let's say you live in chronic pain. If you
hurt a lot, I mean twenty four to seven, that's
chronic pain.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I happen to be married to someone who does. It's
tough to look at.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's tough to see, it's tough to deal with it
because someone you love is just hurting and that is
no fun. And so let me tell you what she did.
Lindsay did to help her out and to help other
people out. She created The Pain Game podcast. Every week
she talks to guests who have dealt with pain, what
they're doing about pain, their doctors, talking to friends, and

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setting up they talk to the community. I mean, it's
really an impressive podcast, and every episode ends with a
message of hope, and that's what makes it so absolutely
wonderful this podcast, and then you'll understand the show is
truly about giving pain purpose. I know that sounds crazy,
but when you listen to it, you'll know exactly what

(29:36):
I'm talking about. It's the Pain Game Podcast. The Pain
Game Podcast season three just started dropping her social addresses
at the Pain Game Podcast and you can listen to
it wherever you listen to podcasts. The Pain Game Podcasts.
This is Handle on the Law. Can't fine handle here.

(29:58):
It is a Saturday morning phone number, eight hundred and
five two zero one five three four eight hundred five
two zero one five three four and welcome back.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
More Handle on the Law. Okay, I mean Art.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I think we'll go to Art and then we'll see
what happens after that.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Hello Art, Welcome, Hey Bill.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, a question for you.

Speaker 11 (30:23):
I live in an apartment talk to a house in
the front and duplex in the back, and the owner
was hospitalized. Now he lives with his daughter in Riverside
and she's kind of like taken over all the affairs.
They're going to sell the property. But my question is
that she had all the male transferred to a peel

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box myself and the neighbors no longer receives. I received
the mail and all my personal mail, and I have checks.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Okay, you still you still live there? Right?

Speaker 8 (31:01):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I do.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay, So practically speaking, let's get practical for a moment.
Go to the post office and change that tomorrow. Okay,
that's easy to do.

Speaker 11 (31:12):
So that'd give like a change of address.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, yeah, Well someone filed, I mean, someone filed the
change change of address on your behalf, and you have
to go in there and say I didn't do this.
I want my mail going back to where I live.
Now the other issue, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I'm sorry, yes, I'll just go ahead. Well, because and.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Then there's a violation of law. You can't do that.
So there's two separate issues.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Exactly, Jackie.

Speaker 11 (31:39):
I was going to ask you my next question.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, she can't do that. Now what the violation is?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Is she going to be arrested, I don't know. Is
she going to be tried? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Is she going to get twenty five years to life
for doing that? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Probably not. But as a practical measure, I mean, first
you worry about getting your mail, and then you worry
about what legal ramifications there are.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
And I just asked.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
And when you go down there and you're going to
be talking to someone at the post office, just say,
by the way, what happened. What's a violation for transferring
someone's mail to another address without permission?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
And they will go ahead.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And I tell you, all right, Hey, here we are
at the top of the hour and we are short
of phone calls. So Sam, let's get ready to go.
Haven't done this in a while. So ladies and gentlemen
for those of you, Oh no, no, nope, nope, nope,

(32:40):
we have a call. Damn nation, we have a call.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
She almost ruined it for me. Yes, Deborah, Hello.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Hello, Yeah, I'd like to know how how long, my dearest,
you have from malpractice.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Okay, tell me what happened to you that you are
interested in that question?

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Okay, Well, I'm still traumatized. Unfortunately, I don't live in
a six million dollar mantion on the ocean anymore, dammit.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
But anyhow, uh, you lived in a six million dollar
mansion on the.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Ocean, Yeah, Corona del Mar.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Wow, that's that's impressive.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Okay, yeah, but now I'm down and out in Beverly Hills.
Hey DearS. Uh uh my husband m I t how
graduate very a Bill a friend of bell Bill?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Anyhow where the multi millionaire? He's friend of his?

Speaker 11 (33:35):
Bill?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Hand Bill?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Handle your behind?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah? Have you Deborah? Have you called before?

Speaker 5 (33:42):
I don't know if I have or not. Maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I think you have, Deborah, Oh I will, Yeah, I
think you have. Yeah, I think it was if I
remember I had asked you if you were still on
your medication, and you were saying, I.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Don't medication, I don't medication.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
How about the facility? Yeah, how about the facility.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
I'm not in a facility.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Okay, so all right, so all right, so we only
have a minute.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Okay, uh six million dollar mansion right on the beach.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Now you're down and out in Beverly Hills. Name of
a movie.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
In the hospital, the hospital killed my husband, right?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
And how they How did they do Deborah? How did
they do that?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
They gave him three pills to take, they said, in
the same pill as he took before he took the pills.
I walked back a matter of.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeahbah yeah, Deborah a couple of minutes. I know that's right.
You took the pill. That's right, and in two minutes
or three minutes, he was dead. Yeah, I remember, believe me.
I remember the story. And I kept on saying, how
does someone die even if you're poison? How do you
die that quickly without, for example, being given cyanide and
by biting into it?

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah? Very impressive.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Okay, Now let me talk to you about being in
chronic pain or living with someone who's in chronic pain.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's not fun.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I live with someone who's in chronic pain, and not
only is it frustrating, your heart goes out to these
people because it's twenty four to seven of pain. And
that's my wife. And I don't know how she does it.
She's a trooper, but I'll tell you what she did.
She created the Pain Game podcast and it drops every week,
and it's about helping people. It's about helping herself and

(35:27):
her guests talk about pain, what they've done about it,
who they have seen to treat it, how they cope
with it, and it just helps make life easier for everybody,
me in looking at it and dealing with it, and
her in suffering from it. That's the Pain Game Podcast.
And every episode ends with a message of hope. And
I know That sounds strange, but it does. And even

(35:50):
more strange is you'll understand the show is truly giving
pain purpose and it does. I know that sounds counterintuitive,
but this really works. That's the Pain Game. It's the
Pain Game Podcast. It's available wherever you listen to podcasts.
You can follow on the social at the Pain Game Podcast.
Season three just started The Pain Game podcast. This is

(36:15):
Handle on the Law.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
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Speaker 2 (36:19):
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