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August 23, 2025 38 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings KFI AM six forty. The bill handles show
on demand on the iHeartRadio f This is handled on
the Law Marginal League adwise, where I tell you you
have absolutely no case whatsoever. The US State Department has
revoked more than six thousand student visas and why well,

(00:26):
First of all, we know the crackdown continues, and the
DOJ says some international students have broken the law and
visas were revoked because some people stayed after their visas expired.
Makes sense or broken the law no issue, and noted
that the vast majority of the legal violations were for

(00:48):
cases of assault driving under the influenced burglary. Support for
terrorism that is kind of difficult because I don't know
what support for terrorism is. Is it merely a statement, say,
for example, Hamas is right and Israel is wrong? And
since Hamas has been designated a designated terrorist group, does

(01:09):
that mean that their support for terrorism?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And one of the issues is that the administration is
arguing that people can be thrown out for lack of Americanism.
They're not showing enough enough credence or enough respect for America.
I don't know what that means either, nor does anybody else.

(01:34):
Approximately two hundred and three hundred of those visas were
yanked for this alleged terrorism under part of the Immigration
and Nationality Act that says foreign nationals may be inadmissible
to the US due to terrorists related activities. Again, I
don't know what a terrorist related activity is, because this

(01:55):
is where free free speech does kick in, and that
is I don't know how far it goes. Now, maybe
arguing that Hamas is right and Hamash should go ahead
and kill Jews and what they're doing is absolutely appropriate.
I mean, I think that crosses the line. But how
about what Israel is doing and starving people in Gaza

(02:18):
is wrong? Is that pro terrorists? I don't know what
that means now? Or even how about this students active
in protests against the war in Gaza, they were accused
of anti Semitism and supporting terrorism.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Again, is the government gonna win on this one? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Probably, because the courts leave administrative decisions to the government
and it's up to the government to determine the risk
of someone being in this country. And unless it's completely crazy,
I think that whatever appeal.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I think the students are are going to lose on
this one.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
As I said, if we're talking about people who have
been committed to assault or driving into the influence or burglary,
that's a simple one, goodbye, you're done. But the terrorism part,
I don't know that that is a tough one unless
it's pretty clear kit, pretty clear cut. All right, let's
go ahead and take some phone calls. Matt, Hi, Matt, welcome, Hi.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Thank you for taking my call. Sure Kennet didn't pay
rent for multiver months. We got a judgment and we
so that the proper paperwork gave it to the Sheriff's
department to go to her employer to garnishment at rages.
It happens to be La County Department of HSS. I
believe he's worked there for multiple years. My question is

(03:52):
we feel that that they're shielding her because they're saying, well,
we need to take a track record, and it's gonna
take several month in order for us to get an
idea of how much to growing in and she's worked
there for several years.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, that's no, no, no, they know exactly how much
to garnish there is based on what she earns based
on what she is claiming as exemptions. No, no, you're right.
Someone is doing something not good at all.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
So right, so how is there or something that I could.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
You know what I don't you know, I don't know
the answer where you I don't know where you go
on this one.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean without going to a lawyer, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
And I don't want you to go to a lawyer
because that's going to cost you money. Maybe attorney's fees
are paid and will there'd be sanctions probably, but you know,
I would try to go through your county supervisor to
see where you can go with that and basically say,

(04:55):
you know what, the county is not following the law.
Someone is shielding her and it's a county employee. And
I would see if you can get to the supervisor. Now,
you're not going to get directly to the supervisor. You
don't knock on the supervisor's door and go hi, I'm here. Well,
every supervisor, every elected official has a constituent liaison that's

(05:22):
there to help voters in their own district. They want
to get re elected, and the way you get reelected
is to tell the voters at your district, hey, I'm
doing a great job for you. Look what I'm doing
re elect me, and one of those, hey, I'm doing
a great job for you is have a someone in

(05:44):
the office help people that are in trouble that need
help within the system. And I think that's where I
would go after that. Yeah, no, I generally try to
go there, and then if that doesn't fly, I would
ask that person where do I go? Because there has
to be a process within the county and I don't
know what it is, but good luck, Yeah I can.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, that's right, I know I can see that happening. Yeah,
you bet.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's no fun when you're dealing with governmental agencies and
you get caught up in a bureaucracy. In this case,
there's a bureaucracy there. It is protecting a debtor. That's
no fun. This is when you know, I tell you
the law can be kind of sloppy. And what I
mean by the law being kind of sloppy, it's not direct.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's it's really easy.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
If I loan you one thousand dollars, then you don't
pay me, I sue you. You owe me a thousand dollars.
Here it is, here's the paperwork. Thank you, We're done.
If I get into a serious injury in a car accident,
it's your fault. I assue you, and then I just
are My attorney argues, Okay, this is the seriousness of
the injury, and then boom, you're done. When you're involved

(06:53):
in these things, you know, like the neighbor being too
loud for example, what does that mean? Too loud playing music?
It doesn't work? I mean it works, but not well
that's the problem. All right, Greg, your turn, welcome to
handle on the law.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Thank you, disabled senior Caucasian.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, I'm having a hard time understanding you. Greg.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
All I heard is the word Caucasian. So what I'm sorry?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Disabled?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Disabled? Okay? Yeah, with a speech impediment. Also okay, so
you're a disabled senior, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
And I was freaked down of violation of people.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. You were
beat down.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I don't care about the violation numbers. You were beat down.
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (07:50):
I was attacked inside a Walmart?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Ah, you were attacked by whom.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
An non employee?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay, just want to attack you, right, yes, okay?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Any any pustular.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Reason, Greg, anger, frustration because they're not my my ethnicity, okay, they.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Were okay, what they were angry? They were angry.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Because of your ethnicity, right appeared, so okay, they were
angry of your ethnicis and ethnicity and you say your
Caucasian affirmative, yes, okay, and the people that attacked you
are not Caucasian.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Correct, okay?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
And uh okay, I don't know if that had anything
to do with it, all right, So they attacked you
simply because your Caucasian. Why didn't they attack anybody else
in the store, because I would guess there there would
be one or two other Caucasians.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Just walking past me. And I attempted deck to the building,
and the push your shopping cart and grabbed me and
push me.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Okay, all right, you're having a hard I'm having a
hard time understanding you.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But the story is great, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So someone attacks you and you're disabled, and uh you were?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Were you hurt badly?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I shuffered severe injury? Yes?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Okay, well how severe? What was your injury?

Speaker 4 (09:13):
And soft tissue? Back? I laid on the floor for
forty minutes?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah soft?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, soft tissue is kind of hard because it's so subjective.
You laid on the floor for forty minutes. Why why
were you on the floor for forty minutes? Okay, okay,
So the employees at Walmart just let some guy who
is white, just let some guy who is disabled, and

(09:44):
you sound like a hundred you're one hundred and eighty
years old. They're just sitting there and watching you on
the floor.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's the only the employees are doing, right.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Armed security was right next to me when that occurred.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
When what occurred that you were beat up?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
I was beat to the floor and arms with arm.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Hold on, and armed security was right next to you
when you were beat up.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yees, oh, come on, Greg, all right, We're done with
that conversation. Walmart.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Armed security is right next to me when I got
beat up and attacked and then I'm on the floor
for forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Okay, great, great story. Thank you. This is Handle on
the Law.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Welcome back to Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice. Alie.
Hello Ali, Hello.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yes, I I have a question about I entered into
a contract with that they drew up for thirty six
thousand dollars. I would get to stay on the property
at three hundred and fifty dollars a month's rent.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
For how long day, for how long?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
For how many eighteen year?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Okay, eighteen okay.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I last year I broke my ankle. I could not
stay in my studio apartment because I was in a
wheelchair and it would not accommodate that. So I moved
in with some friends that I could use the wheelchair.
Rats got in to the house while I was.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Are you talking about the house that you were renting?
Rats got in?

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Okay, okay, and I hired an exterminator. They came out,
they placed the traps and everything else.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Couldn't catch them.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
It took over three months to catch all of the rats,
and then all there were eighteen of them, and they
wound up kicking me out.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Wait wait, wait, wait, and what was the wait? What
was the basis for them kicking you out? Ali?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Because I had left the rats in, because I had
left a doggy door.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's not enough to.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Kick you out, especially if you remade me, especially if
you if you fixed the problem, which you did by
getting rid of the rats, They don't have the basis
to throw you out.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Well, they did, and they also kept a storage container.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay did they.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
When they say when you say they threw you out,
did they evict you or just ask you to leave.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
They evicted me.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
They in court, doesn't matter, the letter doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Did they take you to court?

Speaker 5 (12:44):
No, they did not.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
You left voluntarily.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I left because I felt like there was no other choice.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Okay, well there was another choice. I wish you had
to talk to either me or a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Ali. How old are you?

Speaker 5 (13:00):
I'm I'm fifty, I'm okay, sixty.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
That elder you know, because because there are no when
you when you get to be a certain age, you
you click right into more protection because it's CONSI considered.
You know you're in an elderly position. It's a protected status.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh wow, wow, wow wow.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
You know, are any way I can get that storage container?

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, that's easy. Oh that's easy.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
You call them up and you say, I want my
storage container back. If that's all you want, you call
them up and then you call the police and you
tell them you're calling the police. They can't keep your
storage container. Yeah, they can't keep it. They're the ones
that breach the contract. Ally, if you're still paying the rent,
were you still paying the three fifty a months?

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Okay, uh, you are a right?

Speaker 9 (13:52):
No?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
No, no, no, no, no, I was paying utilities only.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Okay did they?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Did you have an agreement with them to pay the
utilities only?

Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yes, that was in the agreement.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, you wrote the when was it?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
When was it?

Speaker 5 (14:09):
If I broke the contract, then the rate would have
been three hundred and fifty or five hundred and fifty
dollars a month.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Okay, I'm a little confused.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Did they they?

Speaker 5 (14:23):
If we did? Nobody broke the contract and it was
at three hundred and fifty dollars?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, Now did you pay the three fifty or nine.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
To the thirty six hundred dollars that I gave them?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yes, all right, so you paid it. So what they
did is they breached the contract. They got your money.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And then they said you let rats in and then
you took care of the problem. Uh. So there are
no rats anymore. So now they're saying they want you out.
Did they tell you why they wanted you out?

Speaker 5 (14:56):
I think it's because they wanted somebody in that they
it gets to pay actual rent, right, they.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wanted a lot more money and exactly, so what you
get to do is I would talk to a landlord
tenant attorney.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
That's where you have to go. And if you're paying
three to fifty a month.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Then you're really limited. I'm assuming you don't have a
lot of money, right Allie.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
No, no, I don't. I'm trailer right now.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh my god. Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
There are organizations out there that do help people in
your position, and you get to look them up. It's
really easy. Just look at elderly, look at destitute. That's
always a good word. Pro bono, free, legal, landlord, tenant.

(15:48):
Throw all those words in and they'll find some organization.
Because I think you have some stuff here. I think
you can go after them for several different things. One
is breach, one is bad faith. There's all kinds violations
here of the law, and there could be some statutory
stuff too.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Wow. Okay, hey Martin, welcome. What can I do for you?

Speaker 6 (16:14):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Bill?

Speaker 10 (16:15):
Yes, I am a friend of Bills too, a recipient
of all the property money that I get after my
parents pass away. Okay, they died within the last three years.
The house has been sold by my younger sister, who
is the whatever it is, the person in charge.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Was she the trustee? Was it a trust or Okay?
So it was in a trust. Okay, so she was
a trustee and went to the house sell.

Speaker 10 (16:44):
Martin January fifteenth of this year.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay. So okay, so we've got a few months there,
and you're a beneficiary correct correct?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Have you asked her, especially since the house has been sold,
when the house was in January?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Correct? Okay?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
And do you know when it closed, because it doesn't
matter when the house is sold.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
When did the money come in?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
And April?

Speaker 10 (17:16):
That I don't know, but it closed in April okay, Well.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
That's when it came in, is April? All right? So yeah,
that's a little long. You've asked her? Correct? What's going on?

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (17:28):
And she wants me to get a trust and open
her bank account.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
No, no, no, it's you just get Yeah, you just
get the money.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
She has to write you a check. It's not that simple.
I mean it's not that complicated. So I don't know
where she's going with that. Is she simply trying to
hold on to the money. I mean you can tell her, well,
you call her up and you say, no, you don't
need to.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Put it in a trust.

Speaker 10 (17:53):
Yeah, I've told her that, and you unless.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
The trust calls for the money to be put in
a tr trust, okay, that might have to check on. Yeah,
you have to look at the trust.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
You have to look at the trust because that's going
to control everything, and it's going to control what power
your sister has. And without that trust, we've got no
place to go. So you start, you start with that
one and then we'll talk. This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 6 (18:22):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Welcome back, more Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Hi, Linda, welcome. What can I do for you?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
I have a defibulator that malfunctioned about four months ago
and shocked me eighteen times. It's documented that it's malfunctioned.
I had to go, you know, ambulance into the hospital.
They shut it off. I stayed in the hospital till
they could replace it.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Now you're trying not a defibrillator.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
You're talking about, uh, one of those what do you
call it? They're put in your you know, with the pacemaker. Yeah, yeah,
like yeah, that's it's not a defibrillator.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I mean, what are they call those?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Well, it works as both it shocked, Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I know they because they're electrical impulses that go pacemakers.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's it, those pacemakers. Okay, okay, all right, so shocked
the eighteen times you went in the hospital. Uh and now.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
What and now I'm you know, I mean, I'm having issues.
I've never had a rhythmias before. I'm having a rhythmias.
I have to go. They're looking at doing an a
blazon on me. I've never had any problem.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Okay, Well, Linda, let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Okay, Uh, they're not able to on uh, the issues
that you have, they're not able to fix those with
another one.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Right. This is permanent.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
This is this is permanent that you're are never going
to be able to undo that.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
I that I don't know. I'm okay, they don't know
if it'll work that, you know, doing an ablazion or
if you know, my doctor has even talked about a
heart transplant. I mean, I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Know the doctor talked about it.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh wow, so your heart is in such bad shape
that you may need a heart transplant.

Speaker 10 (20:26):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Well hold on Segi mentioning it and saying, well, let
me ask you this, because we're moving into the realm
of this could be a case. Is he prepared to
go on the stand and say in my opinion, Linden
needs a heart transplant.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
It I think he'd be willing to go on the
stand to say, you know, it's a possible, it's a
realm of possibility in the future if the ablazion doesn't work,
I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Okay, see, but here's the problem. In the realm of possibility,
it might happen. It could happen. Don't know if it's
going to happen. Don't know when it's going to happen. Uh,
what if you get hit by a truck before that?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
That doesn't fly.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I mean you have to have a doctor sitting up
there saying Linda needs a heart transplant. That's how bad
her damage is because of what happened, because of this
pacemaker blowing up and causing all kinds of a defibrillation.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
And you're basically done.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
So I see on the screen as you've talked to
a few lawyers and they refuse to take the case.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Correct, correct? Why do you think they don't want to
take the case?

Speaker 6 (21:47):
Well, they all say, you know, it's not in the
realm of what we handle. I think it's because it's
a major medical device company and they don't want to
go against it.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Are you kidding? Are you kidding? A lawyer not wanting
to go again.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
It's a major device company, medical device company. If you win,
it's tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of
millions of dollars, and no lawyer wants to go against
the medical device company. How do you think all those settlements,
you know, the pelvic mesh, all of these that you know,
billion dollar settlements, how do you think think it's settled?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Lawyers take them.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, that's why I'm sitting in. I heard you know,
I thought i'd call call in.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
No good. No I'm not arguing that. No, I'm not arguing.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
But what I'm saying, and thank you for calling, I mean,
it's you know, that's what this show is about. All
I'm saying is if lawyers don't want to take it,
then there's something wrong with the case.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
The fact is, the bigger the company, the more excited
they are.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Assuming that you're not going to a small practitioner. This
is the kind of case where if there is something
there and you're talking a medical device that has gone south,
uh and and it is the design of that medical
design device because you're talking about a design defect, then
You're talking about possibly millions of dollars invested in the

(23:12):
case because you have engineers that are going to have
to be on the stand. You're going to have designers,
medical device designers that are going to be on the stand,
experts who have looked at it.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I mean, this is a big, big deal.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
So if there is something there and a lawyer is
not taking it, then is a small time lawyer and
you're going to the wrong You're going to the wrong lawyers.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Now the problem is that.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
That's what I'm thinking. But I mean my medical records basically,
I mean, you know I have access to them. I
reveal them.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah no, no, you know, Linda, don't listen. I'm not
disagreeing with you. Yeah, no, I'm not disagreeing with you.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
The other issue is, I mean, the only let's say
it is defective, what are your damages.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I mean, what if you're going to be fine.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
What if they can just replay and you're going to
be fine after the ablation you're going to be fine.
Then the case, then the cases forty cents.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
What I've had to go through.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
No, I understand, but no lawyer, But you still going
think about this. Look what you have gone through. Okay,
you need ablation. You were shocked, there's no permanent damage,
and a lawyer who picks it up going after the
design is going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars

(24:31):
to go after the device company because you went to
the hospital and you're not dead, and as of yet,
there may be as a matter of fact, a I'll
tell you something, there may be a class action lawsuit
that's already been filed.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Because if this device has been put.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Into a lot of people and this has happened, now
you're talking class action.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
And so you get to look it up.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Look at the name of the device, put in class
action and see what you get from there, because getting
a lawyer on your own without you basically being dead
is almost impossible.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Sally, Hi, Sally, welcome, Hi, Yes.

Speaker 10 (25:15):
Hi, can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I can, yes.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
So I'm renting a room from an elderly.

Speaker 7 (25:22):
Man and the other day he's sitting naked on the couch.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Is that okay?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Well it's his house. Uh you know, I don't know
why not now?

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Is that could be?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
You just tell him to put his pants on, by
ney chance, because this is fun.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, well, I.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Said I have an eight year old daughter.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
And okay, all right, okay, if you have an eight
year old daughter, that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
That is a difference.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Now you're talking now you're talking about basically a form
of child abuse.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
That's a criminal act.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
What he's doing exposing himself in front of a child,
exposing him sent a friend in front of you.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Eh, you know it's uh, I mean, is there something there?
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
But the answer to that is you point to him,
you start laughing, and you go, you call that a
schwantse come on? Uh? Literally, yeah, I wouldn't walk around
if you know I was hung like that.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I mean, there's a lot of things you can do
and have fun with that one.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Not with your daughter, though, Sally, with your daughter, that's
a very different story. Uh, if he does it again,
or you call the police, I mean, that's that is
a serious issue, exposing oneself in front of a child.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
And it doesn't matter if he's in the house or not. Uh,
it's yeah, call the cops on that one.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Okay, Sally, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
By the way, how old is he, Sally? So he's
so he's really wrinkled, right.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Yeah, but his wits are there. He was a teacher
and by all like major and so he's smart, so
I know. So it's just a matter.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Of yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it
all right.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I mean, how much you can you do in front
of your daughter made front of a guy like that? Wow,
that's I don't get too many of those eighty five
years old exposing himself.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
My daughter.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Took a class in France, a baking class, and she
spent a few weeks there. My daughter is a super
cook and so my ex her mom, took her there
and they went and did a little trip through France
and the cooking class was they didn't know that, but
the cooking class the campus was in the middle of

(27:46):
a very large nudist colony in France.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
And they didn't know.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
And of course it's perfectly legal there because it was
registered or whatever, you know, there was no issue. And
as they're driving in, they look at a guy on
the second floor, stark naked, who is holding his cigarette.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
And as they passed, he goes.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Bones and he's naked with his fruit package hanging out.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
And they thought that was pretty funny. When they told
me that story, that was terrific.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
This is handle on the law and welcome out to
handle on the law.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Marginal Leader Advice. Ozzie. Hi, Ozzie, welcome to handle on
the law.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
Hi, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
So, my dad was the doctor. He passed away. By
the way, he loved your show. Always listened in to chaos.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Oh that's terrific. And did he die because he was
listening to my show? Because that's even a better story.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
No, okay, So he passed away a couple of years ago.
He had a medical practice and then, by the way,
he didn't even have every thing went to probate because
at the end I was more worried about his health
to try to get him better than get a get
a will in place. Anyways, long story short, he had

(29:10):
a medical practice. He had two employees that he told
me to always take care of, to not just sell
the practice and fire them.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Said, Hang on a minute, Aussie, Hold on a minute.
Let me ask you a question. He had a medical
practice and had two employees and told you to take
care of them. How do you take care of two
employees of a medical practice where the doctor is no longer.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
There just to try to find another doctor, just going
so that they have a job, all right. So to
make up to keep the promise that I make to him,
I again went out of my way because I'm not
an MD. I went out of my way to try

(29:55):
to find a doctor. I was paying them because they
were still going into the office because patients still needed
like scripts or they needed their charge. Where did you
get like another doctor?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, Ozzie, where where did you get the money to
pay them from the account?

Speaker 7 (30:15):
And then that money ran out? There was not no
money coming in. Sure, there was no doctor there. First
I understood, and and then I started paying with my
own money. And then I was running role on money.
And then I told them like, hey, we need a
doctor there, Like I'm struggling. Can I, like, I forgo

(30:37):
payments a little bit? But they continued clocking in and
milking the clock, which is very frustrating on my end.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Did you fire them, Ozzie?

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Did you fire them?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
No?

Speaker 7 (30:46):
I did not. And again because my dad's dying wish
was he saw that right?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
So what you got it? And so what did they do?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Now there's no money to pay them, They're still clocking
in and what is your question?

Speaker 7 (30:59):
Well, after this last year, I want to know do
they have a labor No.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
No, they don't have any case. No, they have no
case against you at all, none.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Because it's not in my name.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
But right, it's not. It's not your business. It's not
your business.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You are giving them money out of your pocket to
help them out and to maintain a promise to your dad, which,
by the way, I would question that promise to your
dad because he's already dead.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
See.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, here's I made a promise to my dad. My
father was scared to death of being in a wheelchair
or even in a hospital bed, and he said, or
in vegetative state or not there out of his mind,
and he said, promise me, if I'm ever at that position,
you will kill me.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Promise me swear to God that you're going to do it.
And I did. I promised him.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And then while I'm promising, I'm looking at him and thinking,
if you think I'm going to go to prison for
you for twenty years, you're completely out of your mind.
So I'll promise you all I want. The point is
you promising your dad that you would take care of
the kids. You're a much better man than I am,
for sure, But if you, out of your pocket paid
these people, there there's no place for them to go

(32:21):
against you.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
None. You're you're too good a guy, cleaning out your day.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I was going under I know you.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Know what you're Let me put it this way, all right,
let me let me now take that back. I will
add something to it. You're too good a guy and
you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Does that help?

Speaker 9 (32:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, pretty much? Nice guy, But come on, at some
point moron kicks in? Uh and uh? When when does
that happen? Fidel, Hello, Fidel, welcome.

Speaker 9 (32:52):
Thank you so much, sir. I have I need marginal advice.
So I have a cousin of mine so happens to
be a Republican. I'm a Democrat. We would argue all
the time. We started texting each other about, you know,
why he likes Teump, why I don't like Trump. And
then it got serious and then he started calling me names.
Starts saying, well, I heard you did this, and you

(33:15):
did that, calling me a rapist, calling me a drug
did it all kinds of stuff, which is not true.
And there was another person on the text, so my
other cousin was on the text, and now they're all
looking at me weird because this guy was false, you know,
giving everybody false lives And there was another text with
multiple people on it and he was talking about my

(33:35):
wife saying that she stole some money and just yeah, let.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Me ask you.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
This is so for now, let's let's before I get
into the legal part. When you reach a situation where
it is outrageous, Okay, Uh, you're a rapist. Uh you know,
she's a hooker, you killed people?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Are you moless children?

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I mean, it goes on and on. At what point
do your people on the text just stop believing that
kind of crap and they realize that this is just
like beyond the pail or do you think people really
do believe you're a rapist and she's a hooker and
you molest children.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I mean, do they believe it?

Speaker 9 (34:18):
No, they don't believe it, but they want to know
why he's doing that.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know, you tell him, you go on the group
test and oh, this is why he's doing it. You
tell him that, you go, Hey, the guy's a jerk,
he's an ass and this is why he's doing it.
We got into political discussion and he just went over
the edge.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
This guy just lost it. That's what I would do.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Now as to the legal question, can you do anything
about it? Is this defamation? Of course it is?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Is this? Can you file a lawsuit? Of course you can.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Can you send a cease and desist? Yes, but you
have to pay for that, fiddel. Are these people worth it?
If they don't.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Believe you, then yeah. If they don't believe you, then
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Also, that's a defense, by the way, is that it
is so outrageous that no one's going to believe it.
Pat Robertson was I don't know if he's still around.
I think it was Pat Robertson. I think one of
the televangelists that we're out there. Hustler magazine, Remember Hustler magazine. Okay,

(35:27):
so hum, Hustler Magazine does a commercial or excuse me,
does a cartoon of Pat Robertson going into an outhouse
to have sex with his mother? Oh wow, okay, pretty
serious stuff. So he sues, sues Hustler magazine, and they

(35:47):
went ahead and had a bench trial. That's just in
front of a judge, and he's on the stand. So
he's on the stand. I think's Pat Robertson again, if
I if it was, and Pat Robertson, I apologize and
the judge asks him, do you think anybody believes that

(36:08):
you would have sex with your mother in an outhouse?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
And he said, of course not, who would ever believe that?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And the judge said, that's the point. Where's the defamation here?
It is so insane that there's no defaming. I think
that's your where you're sitting. And the crazier this guy gets,
your cousin gets Fidel, the better it is. And you
just say he's not start making fun of him. Yeah,

(36:40):
that's the way to do it. You don't what, just
do it a really easy psy and hope he just
keeps on going with crazy until people realize the guy's
just the wing nut, if they don't already.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
That is the practical issue. You mean going to go to?

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