February 28, 2021 • 36 mins
Ideally, choosing a puppy or dog for you should be more than falling in love with a puppy. All puppies are cute, right? Tune in and listen as Liz, Petra, and Kate talk about breed tendencies and other things you should be aware of.
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EPISODE NOTES: Breed Characteristics And You
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pet Life Radio, Let's Talk pets.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi. Welcome to It's a Doggy Dog World. I'm your host,
Liz Polita, with my good friends Petter Burn and Kate Abbott,
and we're going to revisit a podcast that we did
a few years ago, well maybe a little more than
a few years ago, but we're going to talk a
little bit about reef popularity, where it comes from, and
(00:46):
taking a look at that to make sure that you're
getting the right dog for you. So a little bit
on choosing the right breed because we are influenced by
different things. We see popularity for certain come from many,
many different places, so we want to talk about that.
So Patrick, you had said that in the training classes
(01:07):
right now you're seeing lots of malaboss.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, And Kate and you're talking, we're not sure why
the popularity and it's been going on for a while.
Usually it will be popular and it kind of goes away,
but this has been fairly steady.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And it's not like it's one line of mouths. No,
we're seeing different different yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So it's not one.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Different no, no different. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And a few of them have been military, but not
all of them, not enough to be influenced that way. No,
I don't really, No, I don't know. Unfortunately less than half,
but still a lot of them. Are this is our
first dog?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh well yeah recently and I talked to her. She goes, well,
says my boyfriend, I's first dog. And I'm like, and
why this it's a malan Wa. Well like, okay, let
me back up. Did you research the breed a little?
She's really cute as a puppy, And so what are
you gonna do now as she's maturing and getting older?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
What's your goals? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I know they have to be kept busy. Do you
have any thoughts on that? And she's like, no, I
haven't really thought about it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh my goodness. We have to wait till she graduates
from college and then she'll figure out what her career.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And this dog already we watch her in class and
she's already just like I'm just so bored with you, mom,
and just try to do something different.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And I'm like, you've got to be her leader, her mom,
You've got to guide her.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
She can't just you know, hey, mom, take the keys,
see you later, taking the car?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Let her go?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Please tell me if they don't live in an apartment.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I wanted to get a mallin wa because I run
on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How about Monday through Friday.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh, don't think I'm on an off switch. Yeah, just
unplug it Monday through Friday, and then it is bizarre.
I mean it's puppy class. So there are some of
the dogs that are moving into adolescents and starting to
go and don't. Yeah, but this Melanoa is she's like
bringing two magnets together that repel each other.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
She's just always bloinging away from her mom at the
end of the lee.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Falling, and her mom just goes, oh, dear and just
follows her.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
As she's pulling away from.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Her mom goes and gets up and sort of gathers
her and carries her back instead of.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know, instead of teaching her. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, her boyfriend really likes the dog. That's wonderful. Why
isn't he here in class?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But populary, some of the greats stayed more popular for
longer periods of time, and when Game of Thrones first
came out, we saw loves lots of huskies for quite
a while.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
We still do. I think it kind of dropped off.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well Game of Thrones TV right now, but.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We still see them. In fact, I came across it
through my aunt, a friend to hers. Her niece had
bought a puppy I'm not sure near the border. From
what I gathered, the story beautiful, but it was a
cute little eight week.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Old husky puppy with blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
She just couldn't resist. So she bought the puppy because
she had lost her boxer a year ago.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So I guess she was going through.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I don't know, withdrawals and lives in an apartment. She's
had a puppy for a month now, and she.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Contacted get gangly. It's not a baby puppy anymore and
needs a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
More around than this one. How much has an apartment?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah? How much has it I don't know destroyed?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, So her aunt said, either, you know, find get
out of their apartment, find a place that has a yard,
take it to training you to do the other stuff. Now,
the aunt has been nice, she babysits a puppy once
in a while. Aunt lives in an apartment, so she
finally everyone discussed it. She decided to place the puppy
in an appropriate home. So I was really hoping a
(05:16):
friend that we've known, she's come through her classes, who
that's her breed of choice of husky. She understands husky.
She's got the perfect place. She knows the breed, and
she was interested, and she was so interested in the puppy,
and she was playing on going to pick it up
this afternoon until the lady, the young lady, young girl,
early twenties.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Why did you get her money back?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
No, say that her. I guess her brother's taking the puppy,
So I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Know what apartment number does he do?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
That was kind of my thought. I don't know, But
again there, she didn't research the breed. She didn't do
anything until her aunt, luckily had spoken to me and
had this young girl do more research and realized this
is not an apartment dog. And at least she placed
it and hopefully her brother has a yard.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It does not make you an awful person if you
realize that your dog, whatever breed, is not the right
fit for you and you find the right home. That
makes you a good person.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Exactly right, exactly right, Yeah, for exactly what one of
the worst things to do is keep a puppy that's
not in the right situation for you, and then in
a year and a half, the two of you hate
each other and the dog has destroyed your house or
your apartment, and you're not going to get your security
deposit back, and the dog's got all these bad problems,
(06:33):
behavior problems.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Much better to discover that early. Paul and I did
that way back when we were in our early twenties,
and we decided, yeah, we've got a half of a
duplex with the yard fenced in, the landlord's okay with pets,
and we brought home a Dalmatian puppy. It only took
a week for us to decide that when we were
(06:58):
both in the military, work long hours, and yeah, this
was not the right puppy for us. So we contacted
the breeder and she said, bring the puppy back, and
we brought the puppy back. We both felt guilt for
a long time. We didn't get another dog for quite
a while, which was a good choice, but yeah, that
poor puppy a week was it was a bad choice.
(07:23):
It was a bad choice to have a puppy anyway,
because of our work hours and then it was the
wrong breed. Nothing wrong with Dalmatians, just the wrong breed
for us.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And I understand the fervor against don't breathe being good,
you should adopt. But on the other hand, a good.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Breeder, we'll take the puppy back.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
And it won't be out there lost, shivering in the cold,
with somebody's voice singing over the top of them.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah. Oh, the breeder was wonderful. She didn't give us
a guilt trip, she didn't try to make us feel
like bad puppy owners. She said, absolutely, bring the puppy bag.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
And a good breeder also question the potential fire.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, she should. She should have questioned pollinied more.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You know, it was like, you know, where do you live,
do you have room, do you have time to do
the training?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
And so on and so on.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, you know, well we had both grown up with dogs,
so you know, it wasn't that where we're oh yeah,
neophyte dog owners. But we didn't do enough research on
what's the.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
First thing that comes to mind when you think of
a Dalmatian?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Run? Yeah, run, run, run. They were bred to run
with the coaches and the horses.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, the first thing comes to mind when I got
the husky too. When I was an apartment I was like, oh, run, run,
run snow. Yeah, yeah, that was a Dalmatian.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Was the only dog during my tenure as a bettech
that got out of the clinic on me getting ready
to give it a bath, plopped it into the tub,
was changing callers over. Oh, it flew out of the tub,
flew over the reception desk just as somebody was coming in. Oh,
(09:06):
flew out into the parking lot. Oh, and I'm hot
on its heels, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No match for a dumation who wants to go.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And by the way, the dog's name was Peta, and
it's exactly why they.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Named it that, and not for the bread, for the acronym.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, and it was headed for a major freeway. Oh
and thank the dog Goddess, a fire truck pulled it
just at that moment. They were going to go grocery shopping.
And he ran to them, and they all made a
big circle and just kept closing in and closing in
and closing in on Pete until I could run in
there and pull dog him and with the Laician collar on.
(09:49):
And it's just very appropriate that he was cook.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, yes, perfect, and that's the fireman knew what to do.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
They were so good at it, Thank you all.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think the only one that escaped at the Animal
Keeper when we were there, it was the Australian shepherd.
She was a hard dog to catch. Oh, took hours
to catch her. Oh yeah, she covered ground, She covered
major ground.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think she was heading home, is what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
So where does popularity come from? We touched on it
a bit. Game of Throne certainly brought in a lot
of huskies, malmutes, wolf ybrids and those same breeds. What
was the movie eight something down below?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Eight below?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
We got a lot of the huskies and malmutes.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Then because they're so smart they can live on their
own at the pool.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
The movie, Yeah, the movies a below?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
What is another dalmat Yeah, ye, lady the Tramp. Everybody
must have.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Beethoven, Saint Bernard, the.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Luckily we hadn't seen anything, maybe because it's just old
lassie that colleagues.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
We never did have a you don't see as many colleagues,
uh period.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And some of the movies we some of the movies
the breeders band together beforehand and say, you know ethics
of this, let's not breed right now. I know that
happened in German shepherds to a certain degree when the
German shepherd Manhattan won Westminster Dog Show. Oh yeah, God,
(11:45):
I had a chance at one of his babies and
I didn't get one. Yeah, I was. I was actually
on the list for one of his babies in Texas,
but I said, nope, can't do that. I would have
liked to, but no. And then local breeders can influence
the population or popularity of dogs in an area. We
(12:07):
were talking a little while ago about blue gray Danes
that there were a lot of blue gray Danes in
class the last few years, so we don't know the breeder,
but obviously someone is breeding locally.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And then.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh yeah commercials, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I always think of Frasier with Eddie Eddie in it.
But yeah, just in the commercials, the target dog with
the Bultaria dog. Yeah, I mean that's not an easy breed.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No. Luckily, they're not easy to find either. Though we
see a few English Shepherds since that's Patriots and my
breed they are, but nobody knows what they are and
a lot of the companies and the producers used them
because they look like the dog next door. Buns's Dad
(13:00):
commercials for many, many years and a couple of movies,
but again it's because he looked like the dog next door.
And then dog shows, like I was just saying, with
the German Shepherd Manhattan Westminster dog Show, when it's not COVID,
when it's held, is publicized worldwide, and so people see,
(13:21):
oh my god, that dog is gorgeous. Look at that dog.
Oh he's so wonderful.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, and sometimes they think what's there is normal?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
The first time I saw the enemy in time a
couple years ago, when the Pekinese took best uh huh,
all right, right, and the dog could walk ten feet
and then stopped and it had to be fanned and panting.
And I thought back to Mike when I was a
kid and my Pekinese ran alongside my bicycle.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah he had a nose, yeah, yeah, totally different.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Now he had a lovely coat. But he wasn't just
a walking doormat worse than that, a limpball, I mean, yeah, yeah,
the taking Again. I like reputable breeders, but breeding for
the function of just going to some extreme requirement for
a show that to me bypasses function.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Well that leads us to our next question. Though.
If you're looking for a puppy and you see something
that appeals to you, maybe you see that Melanwah puppy
and he's absolutely adorable, do some research. What was that breed?
Bread to do? Very very few breeds were bred to
(14:37):
be pets.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
We have a couple.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They're funny in our puppy class. She's that we're talking
at malanwise because we have one in their puppy class.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
These beautiful Malinwab. It's a lot of dog for this guy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But we'll see he's trying and she looks at the
Malina she goes, you know, me and my husband for
a spot second, we thought about malanwansaid nope, because they
have friends in the military and they're canine handlers in
the military, and Malina was and she goes and even
they said, if you want a malawow, this is what
you're going to have to do, and we're like, nope,
(15:11):
So what they do instead?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
It was kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
They got the lab wine rider cross.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh no, it's like tens of the villain wah, but
he's got the wine writer.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Business, It's like yeah, and I just looked at he said,
we didn't.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Go very far. Did you want something mellow? Or she's
like I know, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
The trouble with them well movies and TV and all
the above. It I always wanted to scream at these
people and go. Putting on a cake does not make
you a superhero, right, Buying a melon wal puppy does
not make you a good protection dog trainer exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I researched the breed. Don't go
for that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Cute and look at your life in reality. Don't get
a dog who loves a breed who loves to run
in the hopes that that will make you a runner.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Oh yeah, right, there's an app for that. Didn't your app? Instead?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, don't get a strong If you're a shy, retiring,
quiet person, don't get a strong, busy, pushy breed that's
gonna overpower you mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I just got an email a little while ago from
a former student. She'd come through with several of her
labs and they were duped you to blabs. Okay, there
was sweet labs.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
She didn't tell me she got a field field line
lab this time.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, and she just called me it's probably two years ago,
in tears. I mean, she was like, he's been she's
been mauling me up one side and down the other.
She mauls the older labs and they just run away
from her, screaming. And yeah. I went there and this
was a malon in a labrador's body.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I was like, did you get this from the same
breeder as you got your Oh no, no, this one
is from somebody that my husband knows, and he goes
hunting all the time and that's where he gets his dogs.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Oh oh, And well that was the first clue we talked.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
She tried, and I kept saying, sweetie, you're doing a
great effort, but why are you fighting zard. This is
not the right dog for you. Well then they moved
in Missouri, Texas anywhere somewhere, and it's been eight months.
I just got an email from going you know what,
you were right, and we found some hunters in the
area that fell in love with her.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh good good, And now she's doing what she was
bred to do exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Everybody's probably happy, and I'm the ones I really felt
sorry for her two old girl labs, Yeah, because they
were like, why did you bring this thing home?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Good?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, but it took some time, Yeah, but finally came
to the realization, yeah, that they were just budding ats
all the time? Why do that?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's a good point in the fact that not all breeds,
not all functions were designed to be a pet.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
There have been some branches and the original designs. Yes,
so we will talk about a field lab versus a
show lab or what I call a lab.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Or a backyard bread lab from pets.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But a field lab is a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And we've seen that numerous times.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
We educate our students.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Hell, this isn't your And you can see him coming
to class. You can tell which is the silly, happy
lab and which one is the boy?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But the one that can barely walk because it's wagging
its tail so hard all the time and just looking
for who can I give a kiss?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Next? Ye?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Coming in?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Where's the bird? Where's where's the.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
People behind me? They don't know what they have.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, these are talking to people explaining that and they're like, oh.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah, she does that, Oh yeah that too. Yeah, Well,
this is what you got.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And then we have to bring up when we're talking
about that is nature and nurture. A dog is going
to be who he was bread to be. If he
was bred for field lines, he's always going to have
that tendency to be more intense more and we're just
using that as one example. The Siberian husky who was
(19:35):
bred to sledding parents who were bred to be fast
and pull hard and to run for a long time,
is going to be more intense than the Siberian husky
from showlines, who may be intense and may be silly
and may love to run, but they weren't bred to
run for one hundred miles, and that goes with all breeds.
(19:55):
With the English shepherds, bones is much more intense than Yeah,
you know, they're just two totally different, even though they're
half brothers. That change in fathers makes that difference as
well as individual personality, but there's also nurture, and the
nurture part to change a dog. To mold a dog,
(20:19):
not change him. We can't change who he is, but
to mold him is very tough for a first time
dog owner with an intense dog, whereas one of us
might be able to take. Well. The malinwall that was
created to be a service dog didn't make it there,
but then he became a school detection dog. Yeah, a
(20:41):
law enforcement dog you can.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Mold to a certain degree, yes, But the foundation, the
nature part, he is going to be who he is.
And there are always individual that one in a million
that isn't driven or whatever. But there's a reason for
breed tendencies, right.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The reason why the military and law enforcement are almost
exclusively now using melanlaws. It's a reason for that. Those
dogs are not gonna quit. They're gonna work a shift
with their partner and they're not gonna quit, and they're
gonna be ready to work.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Then go home and play with the officer's.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Children or chase a tennis ball for an hour. The
good hurting dog, the English shepherd on a farm is
gonna work all day, but then he has an off
switch and he'll lay in front of the fireplace and go, okay, cool,
we're good now. So there's nature and nurture. They come together,
(21:39):
but you can't change who the dog is, and I
think that's the important part we have to remember when
choosing a breed.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
The follows but I'm just thinking of a reason, privatory.
These people had had seven Golden Retrievers during their marriage, okay,
and they had portraits of all of them over the fireplace, okay.
And they had adopted this new dog okay, and they
decided that they were getting of an age that they
should not have a large dog that they couldn't easily
lift into the car when needed, okay. And then they
(22:11):
saw this one and they're like, look, it's a miniature Golden.
So it's probably twenty eight pounds, and it does look
very much like a miniature Golden, but it's probably some
kind of terrier shelty mix.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Oh my, he.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Is wound up as tight as an a string, I mean.
And by the time they called me in, he'd already
been on prozac for three months.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And they're like, okay, now that we can talk to him,
we thought we'd get a trainer in. Oh God. And
I you know, I'm talking to them, and I keep
looking at the pictures of the seven Goldens that they
adored and their reason for getting this one dog, and
of course they saving him. Yeah, ask, yes, it is
a rescue and actually is a underneath all of that
(23:05):
craziness is a very nice boy. He's gotta be fine.
I have no doubt they're quite if they put up
with him, as they already have for four or five months.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, in their experience dogghamers, even if they.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Had yeah, even if they were appalled, Yeah, they're gonna.
They're dedicated, they're willing. They sought the information. Actually, I
was the third trainer they brought in, so just wasn't
working with the first two.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
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need to talk about real quick before we let you go,
as far as things that can affect the dog and
the owner besides breed, besides the breed's purpose, besides nature
and nurture. And this one's probably gonna startle you a
little bit. Listeners, what you name your dog can affect
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his behavior? Do you remember the patras Are rottweiler Killer?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Killer was a big female Rottweiler and she really wasn't
a bad dog except every time her dad talked to her,
and he loved her dearly. But it was Killer. And
I said, no, was she in trouble? No, she's not
in trouble. Well, then ask her to sit nicely, Killer,
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And I went took her leash and went, hi, sweetie pie,
sweetie Pie, sit and she sat, looked at me and
wiggled her little stub and her her Dad's going what
And I said, you're talking to her like you're angry.
You cannot say killer in a nice tone of voice.
Car that doesn't come out. So I was trying to
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get him to rename her Bubbles.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah. I don't know if he ever did, but I
was trying real hard to name Killer bubbles.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I remember that in the class Killer. Are you serious?
And I was a joke. Yeah, no, seriously, lame that
dog killer. You have one.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's the rotweiler that was. She wanted it to grow
up to be a therapy dog, and I said, great,
Why did you name it? Kujo?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's another one. You can't say kujojo. It's just good,
too much baggage attached to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
wonderful what you named. We've run into amazing number of those, though,
especially the big dogs, especially the big dog.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Maybe that's why the Dalmatian grew into his name Peter.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Maybe it started out the bread and it turned into
the acronym no.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
The owner told me deliberately he named him for the Yeah.
Very quickly on I realized what kind of dog he is.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
All of my dogs, and we've talked about this in
previous podcasts for the last thirty some years, have been
Star Trek characters, but none of them have been bad guys,
and in fact, none of them have been named Wharf,
even though I've thought about it on time.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You'll go yeah, and you should go through a list.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Oh yeah, I usually find one. I usually have when
I've got to pick up the puppy.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Has always been on your list, but you've never had,
never had, never had a puppy.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Fish don't like the mouthfeel of it.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I usually have six or seven
names on a list, and then when the puppy and
I meet in person or driving home, and some took
a while, I don't remember which one. Hero was almost instantaneous,
sitting in Mary's backyard with him in my arm. So
this is Hero. And for Star Trek, Hero is a
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red shirt Star Trek in two. Well understand that Bones
came to me on the way home as we were
driving home. I drove up to pick him up, and
Butcher and Cisco went with me, also Star Trek names.
And on the trip home, I said, this little guy
in the back in the super camp part of my
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f one fifty with the two big dogs, and he
wasn't intimidated, and I went, yep, got to be Bones,
doctor McCoy. But Shier, it took me a little while.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I think so, but sure, and I think Riker did.
Riker was the only one youth considered Wharf because he
was like a stocky puppy.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yes, he was a little tank. Yeah, yeah, but wharf
didn't fit his personality. No, no, not at all. He
was the sweetest boy on the planet.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
We do have a student, by the way, in classes
named her dog Riker because he's going to be your
second in command.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh that's good, that's awesome. We've run into several several Rikers.
Cherry Jasper had a Riker.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, Riker the classes that way, she's the owner,
is awesome. She's well, it's a it's a mutt. It
was supposed to be kind of terrier. It's also in size.
But she shows up the class the other day. We're like, whoa,
I don't think that the size of a terrier anymore.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
She's like, nope, he thought a lot bigger than we
thought it would. Yeah, a lot bigger than they expected.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And he's he has hit adolescence with mocked. Oh but
she's hanging in there. Good, she's so patient. Are you
gretting your teeth while you're smiling? She goes, yes, you
can do.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
All right. Well, I hope we gave him some things
to think about, especially if you're looking to add a
dog to the household, or if you've got a dog,
especially a young dog or an adolescent dog and you're
wondering why things are the way they are. Hopefully we
gave you something to think about.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And even if you've got a mixed mutt, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Try to figure out the predominant breeds or types, find.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Out the things he likes to do, and that will
give you a clue as to what he has, regardless
of the DNA tests, which sometimes are fun.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sometimes, you know, and just real quick. A good friend
of mine had adopted which they thought was a mixed
puppy who very look like very much of a new
fee mixed puppy. But as a puppy get older, I'm like,
you know, I'm seeing more Shepherd in that dog. Well,
they did DNA test and the dog is fifty percent
German Shepherd and they came over today.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
The dogs had a good time. So one of the
things I had to talk to her about is, Kay,
you now have a German Shepherd.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's not a new Fland. It's not like her your
other dog. So this is a different one. Which her
husband was raised because her his parents bred German Shepherd.
Oh good, so he's really familiar and of course has
his dog and he's thrilled.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And there's not one else of dog anywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
She's not gonna be doing water rescue.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
No, it's all of the things that she had planned
on doing with the dog.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You know that she changed with.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Her he has changed, and her husband is doing more
what he's to do with his German shepherds.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But that they're probably much happier. They are, yeah, they are.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
But doing the DNA test to understand what she had
now she understands her DOGMK.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, so that that was.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Actually And if your puppy on that note doesn't fit
your pre conceived ideas, go with it. Go with it.
My boy hero, my middle dog, is not like his
brother Bones, He's not like his sister seven. He's my dork.
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He's my nerd. He's a silly boy. He's not like
my other English shepherds. But you know what, Okay, he
is who he is. He's funny, he makes me laugh.
He likes the foster kittens.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
He's a good boy.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
He's a good boy. He's a good soul. Does he
frustrate me once in a while, Yeah, but you know, hey,
he is who he is. I have to take into
consideration when I'm doing training, when I'm doing anything bones
is this seven is this heroes in the middle, And
he's himself.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
He is who he is.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I do have a good story, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
An older gentleman with some health issues fostered a German shepherd,
probably about three years of age, nobody knows for sure,
and then decided to keep him foster feeling and.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We know what those are.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, Well, came to me because the dog is pulling
on walks, you know, and he's I can't fall down,
I'm not all that stable, blah blah blah. And I said, well,
let me see how. Oh yeah, he's quite the polar.
Now have you taught him anything?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
And I, well, okay, we see. And I just asked
the dog to heal and he went.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, somebody's talking my language, and he.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Put himself on it. Now this boy is not young himself,
the dog, and he's got a little wonky hips and
so forth. But all of a sudden he's in the
heel position. He was going, yeah, we're working together, and
the guy goes, well, like I had shepherd's all of
my knife, and but I just thought this one would
be my doo.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I just putter around dog. I said, you can still putter,
because neither of you is going to go fast, but
do it in the heel position. And he started asking
his dog to heal and then he would release him
and then from five feet away, ask him to get
back into the heel position, and that that old dog
on his rickety legs would be getting I'm coming back.
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I'm getting back there doing an automatic sit.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Oh yeah, brings tears to the eyes.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He's like he was just waiting for that communication.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah. Yeah, he liked that.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
He was an open new door for the two.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
He had decided his job was to guard the guy,
to be the shepherd protector.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
My dad is not young and strong.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
My dad needs me and.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
He hasn't told me what to do, so this is
I'm going to take this on as my job, of course.
But then he started he said, what can you still
sniff on a walk? Is it sure? But throw in
that heel and then give him permission, showing the difference
in it. And he called the other and said, yeah,
the now that they have that relationship, the dog will
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look at somebody and look at him and you it's okay,
and then I go sorry. But I didn't have to
focus on that focused on just the relationship.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Okay, now that we're going to let you go.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hi. Welcome to It's a Doggy Dog World. I'm your host,
Liz Polita, with my good friends Petter Burn and Kate Abbott,
and we're going to revisit a podcast that we did
a few years ago, well maybe a little more than
a few years ago, but we're going to talk a
little bit about reef popularity, where it comes from, and
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taking a look at that to make sure that you're
getting the right dog for you. So a little bit
on choosing the right breed because we are influenced by
different things. We see popularity for certain come from many,
many different places, so we want to talk about that.
So Patrick, you had said that in the training classes
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right now you're seeing lots of malaboss.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, And Kate and you're talking, we're not sure why
the popularity and it's been going on for a while.
Usually it will be popular and it kind of goes away,
but this has been fairly steady.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And it's not like it's one line of mouths. No,
we're seeing different different yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So it's not one.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Different no, no different. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And a few of them have been military, but not
all of them, not enough to be influenced that way. No,
I don't really, No, I don't know. Unfortunately less than half,
but still a lot of them. Are this is our
first dog?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh well yeah recently and I talked to her. She goes, well,
says my boyfriend, I's first dog. And I'm like, and
why this it's a malan Wa. Well like, okay, let
me back up. Did you research the breed a little?
She's really cute as a puppy, And so what are
you gonna do now as she's maturing and getting older?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
What's your goals? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I know they have to be kept busy. Do you
have any thoughts on that? And she's like, no, I
haven't really thought about it.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Oh my goodness. We have to wait till she graduates
from college and then she'll figure out what her career.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
And this dog already we watch her in class and
she's already just like I'm just so bored with you, mom,
and just try to do something different.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And I'm like, you've got to be her leader, her mom,
You've got to guide her.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
She can't just you know, hey, mom, take the keys,
see you later, taking the car?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Let her go?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Please tell me if they don't live in an apartment.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I wanted to get a mallin wa because I run
on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
How about Monday through Friday.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh, don't think I'm on an off switch. Yeah, just
unplug it Monday through Friday, and then it is bizarre.
I mean it's puppy class. So there are some of
the dogs that are moving into adolescents and starting to
go and don't. Yeah, but this Melanoa is she's like
bringing two magnets together that repel each other.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
She's just always bloinging away from her mom at the
end of the lee.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Falling, and her mom just goes, oh, dear and just
follows her.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
As she's pulling away from.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Her mom goes and gets up and sort of gathers
her and carries her back instead of.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You know, instead of teaching her. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yeah, her boyfriend really likes the dog. That's wonderful. Why
isn't he here in class?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But populary, some of the greats stayed more popular for
longer periods of time, and when Game of Thrones first
came out, we saw loves lots of huskies for quite
a while.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
We still do. I think it kind of dropped off.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well Game of Thrones TV right now, but.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We still see them. In fact, I came across it
through my aunt, a friend to hers. Her niece had
bought a puppy I'm not sure near the border. From
what I gathered, the story beautiful, but it was a
cute little eight week.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Old husky puppy with blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
She just couldn't resist. So she bought the puppy because
she had lost her boxer a year ago.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So I guess she was going through.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I don't know, withdrawals and lives in an apartment. She's
had a puppy for a month now, and she.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Contacted get gangly. It's not a baby puppy anymore and
needs a lot.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
More around than this one. How much has an apartment?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah? How much has it I don't know destroyed?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, So her aunt said, either, you know, find get
out of their apartment, find a place that has a yard,
take it to training you to do the other stuff. Now,
the aunt has been nice, she babysits a puppy once
in a while. Aunt lives in an apartment, so she
finally everyone discussed it. She decided to place the puppy
in an appropriate home. So I was really hoping a
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friend that we've known, she's come through her classes, who
that's her breed of choice of husky. She understands husky.
She's got the perfect place. She knows the breed, and
she was interested, and she was so interested in the puppy,
and she was playing on going to pick it up
this afternoon until the lady, the young lady, young girl,
early twenties.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Why did you get her money back?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
No, say that her. I guess her brother's taking the puppy,
So I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Know what apartment number does he do?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
That was kind of my thought. I don't know, But
again there, she didn't research the breed. She didn't do
anything until her aunt, luckily had spoken to me and
had this young girl do more research and realized this
is not an apartment dog. And at least she placed
it and hopefully her brother has a yard.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
It does not make you an awful person if you
realize that your dog, whatever breed, is not the right
fit for you and you find the right home. That
makes you a good person.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Exactly right, exactly right, Yeah, for exactly what one of
the worst things to do is keep a puppy that's
not in the right situation for you, and then in
a year and a half, the two of you hate
each other and the dog has destroyed your house or
your apartment, and you're not going to get your security
deposit back, and the dog's got all these bad problems,
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behavior problems.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Much better to discover that early. Paul and I did
that way back when we were in our early twenties,
and we decided, yeah, we've got a half of a
duplex with the yard fenced in, the landlord's okay with pets,
and we brought home a Dalmatian puppy. It only took
a week for us to decide that when we were
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both in the military, work long hours, and yeah, this
was not the right puppy for us. So we contacted
the breeder and she said, bring the puppy back, and
we brought the puppy back. We both felt guilt for
a long time. We didn't get another dog for quite
a while, which was a good choice, but yeah, that
poor puppy a week was it was a bad choice.
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It was a bad choice to have a puppy anyway,
because of our work hours and then it was the
wrong breed. Nothing wrong with Dalmatians, just the wrong breed
for us.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
And I understand the fervor against don't breathe being good,
you should adopt. But on the other hand, a good.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Breeder, we'll take the puppy back.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
And it won't be out there lost, shivering in the cold,
with somebody's voice singing over the top of them.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah. Oh, the breeder was wonderful. She didn't give us
a guilt trip, she didn't try to make us feel
like bad puppy owners. She said, absolutely, bring the puppy bag.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
And a good breeder also question the potential fire.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, she should. She should have questioned pollinied more.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
You know, it was like, you know, where do you live,
do you have room, do you have time to do
the training?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
And so on and so on.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, you know, well we had both grown up with dogs,
so you know, it wasn't that where we're oh yeah,
neophyte dog owners. But we didn't do enough research on
what's the.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
First thing that comes to mind when you think of
a Dalmatian?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Run? Yeah, run, run, run. They were bred to run
with the coaches and the horses.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, the first thing comes to mind when I got
the husky too. When I was an apartment I was like, oh, run, run,
run snow. Yeah, yeah, that was a Dalmatian.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Was the only dog during my tenure as a bettech
that got out of the clinic on me getting ready
to give it a bath, plopped it into the tub,
was changing callers over. Oh, it flew out of the tub,
flew over the reception desk just as somebody was coming in. Oh,
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flew out into the parking lot. Oh, and I'm hot
on its heels, but I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No match for a dumation who wants to go.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And by the way, the dog's name was Peta, and
it's exactly why they.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Named it that, and not for the bread, for the acronym.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, and it was headed for a major freeway. Oh
and thank the dog Goddess, a fire truck pulled it
just at that moment. They were going to go grocery shopping.
And he ran to them, and they all made a
big circle and just kept closing in and closing in
and closing in on Pete until I could run in
there and pull dog him and with the Laician collar on.
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And it's just very appropriate that he was cook.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, yes, perfect, and that's the fireman knew what to do.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
They were so good at it, Thank you all.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think the only one that escaped at the Animal
Keeper when we were there, it was the Australian shepherd.
She was a hard dog to catch. Oh, took hours
to catch her. Oh yeah, she covered ground, She covered
major ground.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I think she was heading home, is what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
So where does popularity come from? We touched on it
a bit. Game of Throne certainly brought in a lot
of huskies, malmutes, wolf ybrids and those same breeds. What
was the movie eight something down below?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Eight below?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
We got a lot of the huskies and malmutes.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Then because they're so smart they can live on their
own at the pool.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
The movie, Yeah, the movies a below?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
What is another dalmat Yeah, ye, lady the Tramp. Everybody
must have.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Beethoven, Saint Bernard, the.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Luckily we hadn't seen anything, maybe because it's just old
lassie that colleagues.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
We never did have a you don't see as many colleagues,
uh period.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And some of the movies we some of the movies
the breeders band together beforehand and say, you know ethics
of this, let's not breed right now. I know that
happened in German shepherds to a certain degree when the
German shepherd Manhattan won Westminster Dog Show. Oh yeah, God,
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I had a chance at one of his babies and
I didn't get one. Yeah, I was. I was actually
on the list for one of his babies in Texas,
but I said, nope, can't do that. I would have
liked to, but no. And then local breeders can influence
the population or popularity of dogs in an area. We
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were talking a little while ago about blue gray Danes
that there were a lot of blue gray Danes in
class the last few years, so we don't know the breeder,
but obviously someone is breeding locally.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
And then.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh yeah commercials, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I always think of Frasier with Eddie Eddie in it.
But yeah, just in the commercials, the target dog with
the Bultaria dog. Yeah, I mean that's not an easy breed.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
No. Luckily, they're not easy to find either. Though we
see a few English Shepherds since that's Patriots and my
breed they are, but nobody knows what they are and
a lot of the companies and the producers used them
because they look like the dog next door. Buns's Dad
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commercials for many, many years and a couple of movies,
but again it's because he looked like the dog next door.
And then dog shows, like I was just saying, with
the German Shepherd Manhattan Westminster dog Show, when it's not COVID,
when it's held, is publicized worldwide, and so people see,
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oh my god, that dog is gorgeous. Look at that dog.
Oh he's so wonderful.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, and sometimes they think what's there is normal?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
The first time I saw the enemy in time a
couple years ago, when the Pekinese took best uh huh,
all right, right, and the dog could walk ten feet
and then stopped and it had to be fanned and panting.
And I thought back to Mike when I was a
kid and my Pekinese ran alongside my bicycle.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah he had a nose, yeah, yeah, totally different.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Now he had a lovely coat. But he wasn't just
a walking doormat worse than that, a limpball, I mean, yeah, yeah,
the taking Again. I like reputable breeders, but breeding for
the function of just going to some extreme requirement for
a show that to me bypasses function.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yes, yeah, yeah, Well that leads us to our next question. Though.
If you're looking for a puppy and you see something
that appeals to you, maybe you see that Melanwah puppy
and he's absolutely adorable, do some research. What was that breed?
Bread to do? Very very few breeds were bred to
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be pets.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
We have a couple.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They're funny in our puppy class. She's that we're talking
at malanwise because we have one in their puppy class.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
These beautiful Malinwab. It's a lot of dog for this guy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
But we'll see he's trying and she looks at the
Malina she goes, you know, me and my husband for
a spot second, we thought about malanwansaid nope, because they
have friends in the military and they're canine handlers in
the military, and Malina was and she goes and even
they said, if you want a malawow, this is what
you're going to have to do, and we're like, nope,
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So what they do instead?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
It was kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
They got the lab wine rider cross.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Oh no, it's like tens of the villain wah, but
he's got the wine writer.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Business, It's like yeah, and I just looked at he said,
we didn't.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Go very far. Did you want something mellow? Or she's
like I know, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
The trouble with them well movies and TV and all
the above. It I always wanted to scream at these
people and go. Putting on a cake does not make
you a superhero, right, Buying a melon wal puppy does
not make you a good protection dog trainer exactly.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I researched the breed. Don't go
for that.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Cute and look at your life in reality. Don't get
a dog who loves a breed who loves to run
in the hopes that that will make you a runner.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Oh yeah, right, there's an app for that. Didn't your app? Instead?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, don't get a strong If you're a shy, retiring,
quiet person, don't get a strong, busy, pushy breed that's
gonna overpower you mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
I just got an email a little while ago from
a former student. She'd come through with several of her
labs and they were duped you to blabs. Okay, there
was sweet labs.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
She didn't tell me she got a field field line
lab this time.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, and she just called me it's probably two years ago,
in tears. I mean, she was like, he's been she's
been mauling me up one side and down the other.
She mauls the older labs and they just run away
from her, screaming. And yeah. I went there and this
was a malon in a labrador's body.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I was like, did you get this from the same
breeder as you got your Oh no, no, this one
is from somebody that my husband knows, and he goes
hunting all the time and that's where he gets his dogs.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Oh oh, And well that was the first clue we talked.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
She tried, and I kept saying, sweetie, you're doing a
great effort, but why are you fighting zard. This is
not the right dog for you. Well then they moved
in Missouri, Texas anywhere somewhere, and it's been eight months.
I just got an email from going you know what,
you were right, and we found some hunters in the
area that fell in love with her.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh good good, And now she's doing what she was
bred to do exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Everybody's probably happy, and I'm the ones I really felt
sorry for her two old girl labs, Yeah, because they
were like, why did you bring this thing home?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Good?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, but it took some time, Yeah, but finally came
to the realization, yeah, that they were just budding ats
all the time? Why do that?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's a good point in the fact that not all breeds,
not all functions were designed to be a pet.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
There have been some branches and the original designs. Yes,
so we will talk about a field lab versus a
show lab or what I call a lab.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Or a backyard bread lab from pets.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But a field lab is a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And we've seen that numerous times.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
We educate our students.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Do you know what?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Hell, this isn't your And you can see him coming
to class. You can tell which is the silly, happy
lab and which one is the boy?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But the one that can barely walk because it's wagging
its tail so hard all the time and just looking
for who can I give a kiss?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Next? Ye?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Coming in?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Where's the bird? Where's where's the.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
People behind me? They don't know what they have.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, these are talking to people explaining that and they're like, oh.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah, she does that, Oh yeah that too. Yeah, Well,
this is what you got.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And then we have to bring up when we're talking
about that is nature and nurture. A dog is going
to be who he was bread to be. If he
was bred for field lines, he's always going to have
that tendency to be more intense more and we're just
using that as one example. The Siberian husky who was
(19:35):
bred to sledding parents who were bred to be fast
and pull hard and to run for a long time,
is going to be more intense than the Siberian husky
from showlines, who may be intense and may be silly
and may love to run, but they weren't bred to
run for one hundred miles, and that goes with all breeds.
(19:55):
With the English shepherds, bones is much more intense than Yeah,
you know, they're just two totally different, even though they're
half brothers. That change in fathers makes that difference as
well as individual personality, but there's also nurture, and the
nurture part to change a dog. To mold a dog,
(20:19):
not change him. We can't change who he is, but
to mold him is very tough for a first time
dog owner with an intense dog, whereas one of us
might be able to take. Well. The malinwall that was
created to be a service dog didn't make it there,
but then he became a school detection dog. Yeah, a
(20:41):
law enforcement dog you can.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Mold to a certain degree, yes, But the foundation, the
nature part, he is going to be who he is.
And there are always individual that one in a million
that isn't driven or whatever. But there's a reason for
breed tendencies, right.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
The reason why the military and law enforcement are almost
exclusively now using melanlaws. It's a reason for that. Those
dogs are not gonna quit. They're gonna work a shift
with their partner and they're not gonna quit, and they're
gonna be ready to work.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Then go home and play with the officer's.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Children or chase a tennis ball for an hour. The
good hurting dog, the English shepherd on a farm is
gonna work all day, but then he has an off
switch and he'll lay in front of the fireplace and go, okay, cool,
we're good now. So there's nature and nurture. They come together,
(21:39):
but you can't change who the dog is, and I
think that's the important part we have to remember when
choosing a breed.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
The follows but I'm just thinking of a reason, privatory.
These people had had seven Golden Retrievers during their marriage, okay,
and they had portraits of all of them over the fireplace, okay.
And they had adopted this new dog okay, and they
decided that they were getting of an age that they
should not have a large dog that they couldn't easily
lift into the car when needed, okay. And then they
(22:11):
saw this one and they're like, look, it's a miniature Golden.
So it's probably twenty eight pounds, and it does look
very much like a miniature Golden, but it's probably some
kind of terrier shelty mix.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Oh my, he.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Is wound up as tight as an a string, I mean.
And by the time they called me in, he'd already
been on prozac for three months.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And they're like, okay, now that we can talk to him,
we thought we'd get a trainer in. Oh God. And
I you know, I'm talking to them, and I keep
looking at the pictures of the seven Goldens that they
adored and their reason for getting this one dog, and
of course they saving him. Yeah, ask, yes, it is
a rescue and actually is a underneath all of that
(23:05):
craziness is a very nice boy. He's gotta be fine.
I have no doubt they're quite if they put up
with him, as they already have for four or five months.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, in their experience dogghamers, even if they.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Had yeah, even if they were appalled, Yeah, they're gonna.
They're dedicated, they're willing. They sought the information. Actually, I
was the third trainer they brought in, so just wasn't
working with the first two.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
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Speaker 2 (25:32):
Welcome back. All right, there's one other thing that we
need to talk about real quick before we let you go,
as far as things that can affect the dog and
the owner besides breed, besides the breed's purpose, besides nature
and nurture. And this one's probably gonna startle you a
little bit. Listeners, what you name your dog can affect
(25:56):
his behavior? Do you remember the patras Are rottweiler Killer?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Killer was a big female Rottweiler and she really wasn't
a bad dog except every time her dad talked to her,
and he loved her dearly. But it was Killer. And
I said, no, was she in trouble? No, she's not
in trouble. Well, then ask her to sit nicely, Killer,
(26:24):
And I went took her leash and went, hi, sweetie pie,
sweetie Pie, sit and she sat, looked at me and
wiggled her little stub and her her Dad's going what
And I said, you're talking to her like you're angry.
You cannot say killer in a nice tone of voice.
Car that doesn't come out. So I was trying to
(26:48):
get him to rename her Bubbles.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I remember that.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah. I don't know if he ever did, but I
was trying real hard to name Killer bubbles.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I remember that in the class Killer. Are you serious?
And I was a joke. Yeah, no, seriously, lame that
dog killer. You have one.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's the rotweiler that was. She wanted it to grow
up to be a therapy dog, and I said, great,
Why did you name it? Kujo?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's another one. You can't say kujojo. It's just good,
too much baggage attached to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
wonderful what you named. We've run into amazing number of those, though,
especially the big dogs, especially the big dog.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Maybe that's why the Dalmatian grew into his name Peter.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Maybe it started out the bread and it turned into
the acronym no.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
The owner told me deliberately he named him for the Yeah.
Very quickly on I realized what kind of dog he is.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
All of my dogs, and we've talked about this in
previous podcasts for the last thirty some years, have been
Star Trek characters, but none of them have been bad guys,
and in fact, none of them have been named Wharf,
even though I've thought about it on time.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
You'll go yeah, and you should go through a list.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Oh yeah, I usually find one. I usually have when
I've got to pick up the puppy.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Has always been on your list, but you've never had,
never had, never had a puppy.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Fish don't like the mouthfeel of it.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I usually have six or seven
names on a list, and then when the puppy and
I meet in person or driving home, and some took
a while, I don't remember which one. Hero was almost instantaneous,
sitting in Mary's backyard with him in my arm. So
this is Hero. And for Star Trek, Hero is a
(28:56):
red shirt Star Trek in two. Well understand that Bones
came to me on the way home as we were
driving home. I drove up to pick him up, and
Butcher and Cisco went with me, also Star Trek names.
And on the trip home, I said, this little guy
in the back in the super camp part of my
(29:19):
f one fifty with the two big dogs, and he
wasn't intimidated, and I went, yep, got to be Bones,
doctor McCoy. But Shier, it took me a little while.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, I think so, but sure, and I think Riker did.
Riker was the only one youth considered Wharf because he
was like a stocky puppy.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yes, he was a little tank. Yeah, yeah, but wharf
didn't fit his personality. No, no, not at all. He
was the sweetest boy on the planet.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
We do have a student, by the way, in classes
named her dog Riker because he's going to be your
second in command.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh that's good, that's awesome. We've run into several several Rikers.
Cherry Jasper had a Riker.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, yeah, Riker the classes that way, she's the owner,
is awesome. She's well, it's a it's a mutt. It
was supposed to be kind of terrier. It's also in size.
But she shows up the class the other day. We're like, whoa,
I don't think that the size of a terrier anymore.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
She's like, nope, he thought a lot bigger than we
thought it would. Yeah, a lot bigger than they expected.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And he's he has hit adolescence with mocked. Oh but
she's hanging in there. Good, she's so patient. Are you
gretting your teeth while you're smiling? She goes, yes, you
can do.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
All right. Well, I hope we gave him some things
to think about, especially if you're looking to add a
dog to the household, or if you've got a dog,
especially a young dog or an adolescent dog and you're
wondering why things are the way they are. Hopefully we
gave you something to think about.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
And even if you've got a mixed mutt, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Try to figure out the predominant breeds or types, find.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Out the things he likes to do, and that will
give you a clue as to what he has, regardless
of the DNA tests, which sometimes are fun.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sometimes, you know, and just real quick. A good friend
of mine had adopted which they thought was a mixed
puppy who very look like very much of a new
fee mixed puppy. But as a puppy get older, I'm like,
you know, I'm seeing more Shepherd in that dog. Well,
they did DNA test and the dog is fifty percent
German Shepherd and they came over today.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
The dogs had a good time. So one of the
things I had to talk to her about is, Kay,
you now have a German Shepherd.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's not a new Fland. It's not like her your
other dog. So this is a different one. Which her
husband was raised because her his parents bred German Shepherd.
Oh good, so he's really familiar and of course has
his dog and he's thrilled.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And there's not one else of dog anywhere.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
She's not gonna be doing water rescue.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
No, it's all of the things that she had planned
on doing with the dog.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
You know that she changed with.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Her he has changed, and her husband is doing more
what he's to do with his German shepherds.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
But that they're probably much happier. They are, yeah, they are.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
But doing the DNA test to understand what she had
now she understands her DOGMK.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, so that that was.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Actually And if your puppy on that note doesn't fit
your pre conceived ideas, go with it. Go with it.
My boy hero, my middle dog, is not like his
brother Bones, He's not like his sister seven. He's my dork.
(32:55):
He's my nerd. He's a silly boy. He's not like
my other English shepherds. But you know what, Okay, he
is who he is. He's funny, he makes me laugh.
He likes the foster kittens.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
He's a good boy.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
He's a good boy. He's a good soul. Does he
frustrate me once in a while, Yeah, but you know, hey,
he is who he is. I have to take into
consideration when I'm doing training, when I'm doing anything bones
is this seven is this heroes in the middle, And
he's himself.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
He is who he is.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I do have a good story, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
An older gentleman with some health issues fostered a German shepherd,
probably about three years of age, nobody knows for sure,
and then decided to keep him foster feeling and.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We know what those are.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah, Well, came to me because the dog is pulling
on walks, you know, and he's I can't fall down,
I'm not all that stable, blah blah blah. And I said, well,
let me see how. Oh yeah, he's quite the polar.
Now have you taught him anything?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
And I, well, okay, we see. And I just asked
the dog to heal and he went.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, somebody's talking my language, and he.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Put himself on it. Now this boy is not young himself,
the dog, and he's got a little wonky hips and
so forth. But all of a sudden he's in the
heel position. He was going, yeah, we're working together, and
the guy goes, well, like I had shepherd's all of
my knife, and but I just thought this one would
be my doo.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I just putter around dog. I said, you can still putter,
because neither of you is going to go fast, but
do it in the heel position. And he started asking
his dog to heal and then he would release him
and then from five feet away, ask him to get
back into the heel position, and that that old dog
on his rickety legs would be getting I'm coming back.
(34:46):
I'm getting back there doing an automatic sit.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Oh yeah, brings tears to the eyes.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He's like he was just waiting for that communication.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah. Yeah, he liked that.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
He was an open new door for the two.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
He had decided his job was to guard the guy,
to be the shepherd protector.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
My dad is not young and strong.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
My dad needs me and.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
He hasn't told me what to do, so this is
I'm going to take this on as my job, of course.
But then he started he said, what can you still
sniff on a walk? Is it sure? But throw in
that heel and then give him permission, showing the difference
in it. And he called the other and said, yeah,
the now that they have that relationship, the dog will
(35:40):
look at somebody and look at him and you it's okay,
and then I go sorry. But I didn't have to
focus on that focused on just the relationship.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Okay, now that we're going to let you go.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
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