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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Personally the old Man.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We are officially in season three. How I have done
already fifty one episodes.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Is wild and amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm just really happy that this podcast exists. It's been
a fun last few weeks with the employees and residents
of Apes Garden talking all about their life story and advice.
If you love that episode or any other episode in particular,
let me know as I start planning this new season
this weekend. Next we're getting into some health and wellness
but root cause style. Stephanie Adler joins me this week.
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She is a hormone, gut health and fertility practitioner. She
helps people get to the root cause of issues, and
I think that's what we're all looking for these days.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm here right now with Stephanie Adler. She's a functional
health practitioner and really focus on helping people find the
root cause of so many things. And we're going to
get into a lot of topics. But Stephanie, I'm really
happy to have you here.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Thank you so much. Morgan, I'm so excited to be
here with you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, this is going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, We're going to start like bottom kind of out
of the barrel, because gosh, with so.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Much content and things to consume, we.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Are getting constantly so many different understandings of what it
means to be healthy and to eat healthy. But in
your expertise, what does that actually mean and what does
it look like?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Totally? And I just want to have a lot of
sympathy and compassion for anyone who's about to hear what
I'm about to say and be like, so everything I've
been doing my whole life has been wrong, because that's
definitely how I felt. And so a little bit of background.
I was like so into health and wellness and like
thought that I was doing all the things and reading
all the BuzzFeed lists and all this and all the
Instagram posts. And then I went to school nutrition, but
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holistic nutrition. I chose not to go the way of
the registered dietitian. Here's the FDA's food pyramid recommendations, and
it blew my mind because it was so different from
what I thought was healthy. I had been like a
pseudo vegetarian who was a pescatarian, and I was like,
up on my high core, some of this is the
healthiest thing, like Butter's the devil, And now I recommend
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to my clients animal fats and more animal fats. It
is so important for every single cell in our body
that we have a really healthy cell membrane which is
made up of fats, and these animal fats are the
best possible kinds. So when we're thinking about what is
really healthy, the thing that I actually ask people to
do is think back to what your great grandparents were eating.
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Go back to a time before the industrialization of food.
Go back to the time before the food lobbies and
all of these interests that are driven by money had
a say over what was healthy for us. And look
towards not even just our great grandparents, but indigenous cultures
around the world who had so much much health and
so much vitality before we brought in Western food and
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modern food. And when we look to that, we really
see what is so deeply nourishing, What it makes us
most fertile, what helps us have the most energy, and
what is overall just like for better vitality.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh wow, And it's funny you say that, because I'm
not gonna lie I am vegetarian.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I'm not vegan. I do eat eggs, and I like cheese,
and I like Greek yogurt.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And all of that stuff, But mine's an ethical thing.
I was eight years old when I decided this. I
was never like I'm going vegetarian to be healthy. It
was I love the animals, and then it just stuck.
But I'm a very unusual case because I've been doing
that since I was eight years old. My body's so
accustomed to that lifestyle now. But I could never do
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the full vegan. I can never go in that route.
So I am probably on your other spectrum of people
who are like, wait, what what did you just say?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And I think that it's an important distinction there. Like again,
when we look at these different intigenerous cultures around the world,
none of them were fully plant based, but a lot
of them weren't eating very much meat or hardly any
meat at all, And so we can as long as
you're eating dairy and eggs and like getting those again,
those are really important animal fats, which is what exactly
I was talking about that could totally work for your
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body and really thrive. I have a group program that
I run, and it was super funny because for a
long time I was attracting all these vegetarians who were
having a lot of health problems, and it became like
an inside joke inside the program. It was like where
vegetarians come to get happy because they would start eating
more animal foods. So I get where you're coming from.
I used to be there, and I think that can
still work for people as long as they're doing it
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super intentionally and eating some animal products.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, for sure, I never thought going to begin was
ever going to be my options And I was like, Okay,
I just got to find the right way to do this,
and it's transitioning and it's understanding because it's also just
such a heavy battle to fight because to your point,
what we're thinking of with our grandparents and back in
the day and indigenous cultures eating meat then wasn't this
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entire experience of what it is now, and so they
don't have this like ethical battle. There was truly, like
I don't know the best way to describe it, but
there wasn't what there is now with industrialized meat, which
is why so many people have an ethical problem with it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
For sure, And I came to it a lot from
that perspective as well. I won't say like when I
was initially aveditarian that it was holy that, but for
a lot of my clients, like I do think I
will say to them that, like, if your option is
Tyson chicken or no chicken, we maybe should choose no chicken.
The beautiful thing is there are so many amazing options.
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Like where we get all of our meat is a
farm fifteen minutes from our house, and we go, we
see the animals. My son pets them, he chases the
little ducks around, Like it's very much the environment that
they were supposed to be living in and the best
life that they had until the day their life is over.
And like we witness that transition of life, were able
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to see and be part of that. And for some
people that's a lot. But I really think that if
we're going to be eating meat, it should we should
be able to have that relationship with our food and
like really understand where it comes from and have a
lot of respect for that animal.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yes, which is also why so many people love farmers'
markets and have those I am a huge activist for
farmers market. I go and I spend my Saturday mornings
there and I even not eating meat, I'm like, this
is awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
This is good food. I know where it's coming from,
and it just makes me feel really good. So all
that to say, I totally understand that experience.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
I couldn't do it because I in my brain of
the animal lover would be like no chance.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But on the way with other things, So I totally
see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
There are a lot of people too who feel like
they're doing all the right things right. They feel like
they're eating healthy, they're working out, they're moving their body,
they're doing the things that they have been told they
have to do, but they can't lose weight. Like what
is happening with your body when you feel like you're
making the right steps? But maybe there's some things that
we're missing totally.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And this is a really common thing that I see
in my practice, and it's like the most frustrating thing
in the world, right, I Oh, And usually there's a
couple of different factors. So the first one is stress.
And when I say stress, it doesn't just mean oh,
I'm stressed out about my job or my boyfriend or
my finances or whatever. It is. The body has sources
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of internal stress, and then we also have external stress. Right,
So at the core of all of these different things
that I'm going to say, it could be We really
just need to think about the fact that if the
body is in a state of stress, it does not
think that losing weight is safe. Is it famine? Is
there a reason why you are so stressed out that
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the body is all I must preserve all resources by
any means possible, And a lot of times with exercise,
this is something I see all the time. I tell
my clients, I want you to stop exercising, go for walks,
go for a nice bike ride with a friend, but
the beach, whatever, like, don't be bedridden, but stop doing
especially intense workouts. But typically any sort of like real exercise,
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and that plus some of these nutrition changes, is when
we start to see the weight fly off. And it
is so counterintuitive to what everyone has always been taught.
But when we're thinking about specifically female bodies, we need
to understand that they're super primal and everything we do
is based around reproduction, and the body, when it feels stressed,
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will see exercise as additional stress and thinks that it
has to hold on to protect us for any means possible,
especially if we were to get pregnant, which is probably
also not prioritizing hormones or reproduction. If you're that stressed out.
But a lot of times it's that extra exercise that
tips the scale into too stress to lose weight. Historically,
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if we think back again to like our ancestors, this
is probably more than our great grandparents go a few
more generations back. If you are running, what did that mean?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You were like in survival mode?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, you were in danger. So like maybe you feel
a little bit of an adrenaline high after going for
a run, but your body is in a state of
a lot of active stress while you're doing that. It
thinks you are running from a tiger and things, you're
running for your life. Similarly, like those experiences of like
heavy intensity, our body views it as stress. And so
that's the first thing, is like a lot of times
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people are just putting too much stress on an already
stressed out body in a stressed out world.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, and before I want you to go on to
these other parts, but I would love to know because
nobody's ever everybody always says, are you stressed, and nobody's
ever detailed it in that way to be like, no,
this is actionly what that means.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Like how if you're obviously you.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Have external factors and you know how to handle that
stress and try and maneuver it. But when your body
is stressed, how do you get your body out of
stressed state?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, so it's a great question. It's really the million
dollar question. And there's a few different things that I'll
typically recommend for people. A first one, it sounds wu
but talking to your body and telling your body that
you're safe is important. And a big one like truly
just taking three deep breaths, which can shift you from
a sympathetic active stress state to a parasympathetic, relaxed state,
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free deep breaths and saying to your body, you are safe,
you are loved, bring it down and doing that a
few times a day is like one way to really
just on a cellular level, tell your body, okay, it's okay,
to calm down, and like we don't have to be
hyper alert and just slowing down. The second one is
figuring out hidden blocks to wellness, and so some of
these things might be toxins that we've come into contact with,
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either in our homes or on our bodies or in
the greater world. And doing practices that help us detalks
regularly and support our drainage pathways, so our body isn't
fighting that intense toxic load all the time, which puts
a lot of stress on our bodies. So that's like
an easy thing that people can start doing at home
and paying more attention to. And then another one is
figuring out other potential stressors in the body. And this
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one is a little bit less DIY and would be
like engaging the help of a practitioner where we're looking
for things like potentially gut infections or an imbalance of
good and bad bacteria in the gut, which you're influencing
everything from our brains to our metabolism to our immune system.
We're potentially looking for things like heavy metals, et cetera.
So at minimum, some deep breast telling yourself that you're safe,
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and then at maximum, maybe diving a little bit deeper
and seeing, okay, like why is my individual body so
stress if the rest of my life is cool.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yes, Okay, I'm glad you detailed that some more, because
I do feel like there's a lot of people out there,
especially I'm also someone who does hit workouts, and I
do feel stressed from that, and I've had my fluctuations
where I'm.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like, okay, I'm only going to do yoga for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Let's just calm a body doubt and it's moments you
go through the rollercoaster of life.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
But I'm so glad you detailed that, because I do think.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
A lot of people probably have internal stress happening and
they just have no idea what's happening and why.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sorry, I made us go on a detour.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh and there's just one actually one other thing I
want to add to that, because look, we could also
go this could be an entire podcast episode of all
the stressors. But sometimes also I find like I'll have
there's like different archetypes of people that I see, and
so there's also oftentimes and so if someone's listening to
this who feels like they're stressed out by like everyday
things that really shouldn't be that stressful, just like the
person who's like, like, if I have one more thing,
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it's just like at a lot of times that will
also be mineral imbalances. And sometimes people who are taking
like pre needles or multivitamins are those like generic let's
throw a lot of things in here at once. I
find are some of the worst with that because it's
causing what we call either calcium or copper toxicity or
some of these mineral profiles. So if you're someone who
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you're just like, I really feel like I shouldn't be
as stressed as I am, like when I really look
at my life, that's actually something to really start to
pay attention to.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Okay, and what exactly is mineral amounts because I did
have this to talk about. Anyway, we're just going into
a different way, which is perfect, But what is that
because I've never heard of that, but for.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, and a lot of women have it, and it's
such a shame to me because it is, in my opinion,
the number one hack to thriving in the modern world
as a woman. Seriously. So, just like any nutrients, like
we all have maybe a basic understanding of we need
our be vitamins so our hair grows long, and we
need to see so we don't get scurvy, like we
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have their like essential nutrients that we should all be
getting all the time, and unfortunately, our modern food system
is very deficient in these nutrients. Hence why a lot
of people take a lot of supplements. But the problem
is when you start taking supplements blindly, right like, without
really an understanding of what your baseline is we can
start to create imbalances in the body. Now every mineral,
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really every vitamin but for the sake of this conversation too,
but for the sake of this conversation, we're mostly going
to be focused on minerals. Every minerals has a cofactor.
They almost have a best friend that's another mineral, and
their ability to do what they're supposed to do in
the body is dependent on this other mineral ability to
do what it's supposed to do in the body. So,
for example, if you have too much copper, you therefore
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probably aren't going to have enough sinc. They balance each other.
Same with vitamin A in calcium, or vitamin D and calcium.
This is why I see a lot of times people
who are taking vitamin D supplements. It really messes up
their mineral balance because they're not doing it with the
other cofactors. And so it's a little bit like a dance.
And when these minerals are in balance and we have
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them in the appropriate amounts, we feel calm Our metabolism
works really well. Our adrenals, which are our stress system,
is able to show up when we need it to
and calm down when we need it to, which is
super important. Our fertility is much more vital. Our ability
to come back to life postpartum and really feel like
we have capacity and patience and all of the qualities
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we want to be in a mom. All of this
is really dependent in what we're seeing in the minerals,
and most of the time people are just not eating
mineral rich foods and or are taking supplements that are
making them out of whack.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Wow, I had no idea how do you find out
that you do have a mineral imbalance, because if I
had to guess, the typical blood panel that you do
at a doctor's office is not going to tell you
those things.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
No, and that unfortunately it's not, because it would be
great if it did. But what the blood is, it's
the highway system. So if you go to the doctor
and you say, hey, can you test my zinc and
my magnesium? Sure, And now if you're like really deficient
or really high in something like a super super intense
end to the extremes, it might show up in the blood,
but a lot of times it'll be dependent on what
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you ate for dinner last night and what like. It's
the highway system and how it's how it travels. So
the testing that I do inside my practice is a
hair mineral test. So what we do is we take
a sample of hair. You can do it at home
and you just take a little sample of hair from
the nape of your neck almost and you send it
into a lab and they analyze it. And what we're
able to see is by excretion, so how much your
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body is letting out of tissue minerals as opposed to
blood minerals. Now, I know that sounds a little I'm
getting into the like scientific elements of it, but bear
with me for just a second. Why this is so
valuable is because not only are we able to see
approximately a three month snapshot compared to approximately a thirty
six hour snapshot. Right, So I'm able to see over
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the course of the past three months what your nutrient
status looks like. But I'm also able to see how
your body is dealing with stress because we're able to
see how much you're pushing out, how much you're utilizing
so much. So like a lot of times I'll see
people who come to me and they're like, yeah, my
doctor says I'm anemic because on their blood work they
don't have enough iron in their blood, but I'll look
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and in their minerals they have so in their tissue.
They have so much iron in the tissue, which then
is telling me it's actually not that you're low in iron,
you're just not able to move it and utilize it properly.
So it's so much more of an actionable data in
terms of what we're going Wow.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
This is so interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, I feel like we could keep I know, I
feel like we could keep going down that path, but
I'm like, I have so many other things to talk
talk to you about too, So make sure you go
check out Stephanie's stuff if you're like really even more
curious to.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Go down that path.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I also wanted to talk about cause I saw
you do an episode of your podcast about this, the
Candida infection and how it could be the cause behind
like brain fog and sugar crabans and yeast infections.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
What is this like?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
There's just so many things I've found. I'm like, I've
never even heard of this before.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah? Totally? Candida. Oh gosh, I have a client she's
I just thought of her because she's been calling her
Candida overgrowth. Candace and like she and her husband like
blame everything on Candace. They're like, oh Candace, Like why
are you doing this, sus So now I just want
to call it canvas.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
We can call her Candace.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I like it, So you have Candace come with it now.
But basically, candida is a yeast and now Candida, like
everyone has candida. It is abundant on our skin, like
it is like it's normal to have some levels of candida.
But what happens in our modern world even more so
because and I'm not going to get into this so much,
but like we just a crazy thing to think about
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is we are not only inheriting like genetics from our
parents and from our grandparents, we're inheriting their microbiome. We
inherit the makeup of their gut. We start swallowing amniotic
fluid when we're in the womb and absorbing our mom's microbiome.
And then if we're birth vaginally, we get the exposure
there of your birth vac section. You're getting whatever's on
those people's hands. So anyways, we're like seeing more and
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more over time, as people have had more and more antibiotics,
it kills off a section of the gut and the
gut works as a big ecosystem, okay, And when that
ecosystem is in balance, everything has its place. So you
have some Candida there, but it's kept in check by
all these other good microbes that are balancing it out.
So what happens is, over time, either in our own
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bodies or inherited, we're taking more and more antibiotics. We're
eating more food that has pesticides on it, which is
intended to kill small micro organisms, which is basically what
our entire microbiome is. And so we're slowly having a
more and more depleted and out of balance ecosystem and
the gut, which then you bring in things like sugar
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and really like refined grain products that feed those opportunistic
yeats like candida, and you end up with this imbalance.
And when you have this imbalance, So Candida is one
yeast that is well known in research and we can
test for, and so that's why I focus on her,
But it could be other yeasts that are not Candida too.
Ye have a mind of their own and they have
their own priorities, and so they will literally take over
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our system and make you crave sugar, make you crave
things that make you have brain fog or fatigue so
that you want more sugar, crave the things that are
going to feed them. So candida is not a fun
thing to have an overgrowth, But it's all about how
do we find the balance? Right. It's not bad in
and of itself, it's how it relates to everything else
in the body.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Okay, and before because you did talk about.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The womb, and I want to get into the mother conversation.
But I'm thinking of all of these things that you
can potentially have, right, and I'm sure you s helt
it when you were studying this, You're like, this is overwhelming.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
There's so many things. Do I have all of it?
What's going on with my body?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
When somebody comes into you, what are some things they
should be evaluating about themselves and their lifestyle to even
head down one of these paths, to be like this
is a possibility. Like what is happening when somebody new
comes to you and they're getting diagnosed for lack of
a better.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Term, or they're understanding their root causes? Is it an onion?
Your peeling back? What does the process look like?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, to answer the first part of the question before
I answer the second part, the only requirement is to
have an open mindset and to want to play the
game of show me how good this can get. If
you were going to play the game of show me
how good I can feel in my body, show me
how good I could feel in my life, and how
that's going to transform my relationships, my work, my partnership,
whatever it is. That's the only thing, because the rest
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we can always figure out. I think can feel overwhelming
when you're hearing it in some of these capacities, but
at the end of the day, it's all one thing.
Whether it's a gut imbalance, whether it's a mineral imbalance.
We've been taught to think about the body as completely
separate symptoms. If you go to your general practitioner and say, hey,
I have brain fog and my period it really hurts
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and I feel loaded all the time after meals, they're
going to send you to a neurologist and to a
gastro entrologist and to and what was the other thing
I said, undercrinologist, and they're going to all try and
fix you separately by giving you a band aid solution.
Everything in the body is connected, so the mineral imbalances
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are related to the gut imbalances, and so we're really
healing them with one way. And so what I'm doing
is actually I don't diagnose anything, and what I do
is actually radically different than a doctor in the sense
that while I'm uncovering root causes, we're not actually treating
any one thing. We're giving your body the proper tools,
environment and ingredients that it needs to heal itself to
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come back to balance itself, so that you can become
your own self healer. And that is I think what
is the most empowering thing in today's day and age,
where we like so often look to authority for everything else.
It's like, no, you are the expert of your body,
and I'm just helping you uncover roadblocks that have gotten
in the way.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
See, And I wanted you to describe it in your
way because it is it's hard sometimes for us to
understand because we have been taught this very basic understanding
of you go to a doctor, you get a diagnosis,
you bandid it, or to your point, you go to
all these different varieties of doctors.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But there's so much.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
More to our body and understanding our body of how
it all works together and That's why I wanted you
to share a little piece of that in case nobody's
heard about it. I want to get into the mom's
side of this, because you became a mom in twenty
twenty three, which had I imagine a big impact on
your life. But I want to know something you say
is that you have a positive postpartum experience, when very
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often we hear about a lot of postpartum moms that don't.
So what are you doing differently that maybe we could
give out to the moms out there to have them help.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, And I could almost cry talking about this because
it's something I feel so deeply passionate about. I used
to go to these like new moms. I joined a
new mom's group in my community where for twelve weeks
we like sat together and shared things and whatever, and
we would go around the room and share how things
were going. And it was just like, it hurt so
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much to hear these swomen talking about just how much
they were struggling. I almost felt like a little uncomfortable
being like I'm doing awesome, because it was like, okay,
was not what we had just been hearing. But it's
also important to point that as like a beacon of light,
a lighthouse that this is possible. And so what was
I doing. The first thing I was doing is I
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was doing what was biologically appropriate and normal for me
and my baby. And I could teach you all the
right nutrition things. I could teach you all of the
things to do for mineral balancing and for postpartum like
healing of the teachers and all that stuff, and I will.
But the biggest thing that I was doing is going
back again to what my great great grandparents were doing
of what is normal for me and my baby and
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my midwife. So I actually gave birth to my son
at home. That was something I knew that I wanted
to do since I was like a kid like. I
went to visit a woman who had a baby in
our community with my mom, and when we left, I said,
I think I'm gonna have my babies at home, and
she laughed at me and I was like, yeah, right,
you're gonna want the epidrol and I was like, I
don't know, I just think I want my babies at home.
So my midwife was telling me this story about how
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she went over to one of her client's houses once
and they had the baby in one of those electric rockers.
This's new was what it's called the basinet, three thousand
dollars to rock your baby. And her client, who had
had a baby a few weeks prior, was like so sad,
so depressed, and she said, I don't know what's wrong.
He sleeps all day in this thing. He's great, he's easy.
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But I'm just like over here and I'm an absolute mess.
And my midwife went and she picked the baby up
out of this new and she put the baby in
her client's arms, and she said, stop using this thing.
Hold your baby for the next two weeks and call
me and let me know how you're doing. Gone. Postpart
and depression gone. We're supposed to be close to our
babies and holding them constantly, if you're breastfeeding as much
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as possible, like sleeping with them, being with them. And
when we are apart from our babies, even for short
periods of time, our body gets anxious and our body
gets suppressed, because that's not what's supposed to be normal
for us. And so that was like one of the
things that I really prioritized was we kept the first
forty days, I stayed like in my little cocoon with
my baby. My husband was super supportive and I was
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touching him constantly, and I think that makes a really
big difference. So that's the first thing, and then the
other one is minerals. I know we talked about that already,
but to paint the picture for moms even more, there
is a massive mineral transfer that happens during pregnancy. So
you have spent, if this is your first baby, your
entire life storing like a little squirrel, storing acorns away,
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storing away these minerals for the big event of getting
pregnant and passing those minerals onto your baby. And if
we are not deeply replenishing when that mineral transfer happens
at birth or before birth. During pregnancy and then at birth,
we put out so many resources, right, there's so much
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adrenaline and so much adrenal output that happens. And then
postpartum you're not sleeping as much. If you're breastfeeding, your
body is creating more nutrition for the baby. You will
end up so depleted. And that depletion can translate into
anything from anxiety, brain fog, insecurities around me, am I
doing the right thing. It can translate to not feeling
like your body comes back to the way it should,
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whether that's with weight or like actual healing of tissue,
all of which impacts our mental and physical and emotional health.
So really focusing on nutrient dense foods, and a lot
of people nowadays they just order takeout and it's like
the absolute worst thing that they could be doing, and
I get why they do it. It's hard. But if
you really intentionally plan for how to have really nourishing meals,
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really mineral rich drinks, and how to really support your body,
it will totally change your postpartum experience.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Those are really important things to have and things that
I don't think we ever think about because we're so
focused on just you get pregnant and you're so excited,
and then you're not really focused on what's to come after.
We are never focused as human beings, Like we get
to the really exciting moment and then after we're like, Okay,
whatever happens happens. So these are huge tools to have
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that I'm so glad you mentioned, So thank you for those.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now it's never last thing, Like, it's never too late.
If you didn't prioritize that during pregnancy, you're an early postpartum.
You're a year and a half, two years postpartum, and
you feel like you're tanked. It's never too late to
get started on these things.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Oh I'm glad you said that, because there will be
I'm sure moms out there who are feeling similar to
what you're talking about, and to know that they can
start doing this even.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
A little bit, will be a big change.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Also, on this other side, I know we talk postpartum,
but on the flip side of having a baby in
the postpartum is the biological clock that we hear about
and fertility declining as.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
You get older.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What's your experience with those two things, because it's such
a big topic, especially for someone like me who's entered
her thirties and gosh, if I have to hear somebody
tell me one more time, when are you gonna have
kids like you're getting older, I'm probably gonna punch somebody
in the face.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yes, I have a lot of thoughts on this. I'll
narrow them down into two really important ones that I
think will also really hopefully reassure you as well on
a personal level. The first one is, so, yes, people
are waiting longer to have kids, like the average age
of a woman having babies in the Western world is
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going up significantly. However, is that a reason for the
declining fertility rate and for people struggling to get pregnant.
I don't think it's actually as big of a reason
as most doctors and modern even media just makes it
out to be. And this is why because historically, even
going back thirty years, like not that long, women were
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starting to have babies earlier, but they also had a
lot more kids, including into their late thirties and early forties. Yes,
like to some extent, we do see fertility change as
we get older, but it shouldn't. It doesn't explain the
declining fertility rates in the way that we are seeing
them manifest. So it's actually something else happening. And here's
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my hypothesis that is rooted in some research, but it's
hopefully something that we're going to be doing a lot
more research in the coming years because I think it's
such a big reason. So again, we talked about our
modern world being a pretty toxic relatively placed to how
it's been in years past. Now the body does another
weird thing. When it's we talked about that mineral transfer,
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the body also uses pregnancy as an opportunity to detox
things that it can't typically detox very well. So what
we'll see if a twenty one year old, for example,
gets pregnant, she's had approximately twenty one years of accumulating
toxins in her body, so she can go on get
pregnant easier because she doesn't have all these toxins interfering
with her reproductive system, and she's less likely to have
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a miscarriage because again, one of the things the body
will do is it will pass those toxins onto the baby,
and if those toxins are enough to kill the fetus,
it will, and if it's not, then it's probably just
going to churn into things like allergies, ezema, asthma, etc.
When her baby's born. But if we have a thirty
five year old who's getting pregnant for the first time,
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that's an additional fourteen years. That's more than fifty percent
more time of accumulating toxins, and so what we're actually
seeing is not necessarily a crisis of age, but more
crisis of environment and the way that's influencing fertility. So
on the positive side of that is likeers so much
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we can do to reduce our toxic exposure and also
detox our bodies. I love nothing more than when women
come to me and they're like, I want to get
pregnant in a year, let's prep for it now. That
is like the move because you are able to not
only set yourself up for an easier time conceiving when
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you are ready, but also a healthier pregnancy, a healthier baby,
et cetera. So if you're listening to this and you're
on the preconception side, or if you've been struggling with fertility,
my questions to you are really to get curious about
what you're not seeing, because really, no fertility is actually unexplained.
It's just do the people who are helping you have
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the right tools and tests to help you figure out
what is causing it.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh, I really hope this can help some people out
there who have been struggling with that, because that is
such a common thing, especially these days where you just
hear people that it's taking people longer and longer to
have children, And I totally see it, even someone who
isn't even in the realm of having kids yet. But
I've started change, you know, over my household to healthier
things and utilizing glassware and stainless steel, and just because
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it was for me right, this was like I transition
now and then it means things happening later to hopefully
be easier.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
And I know.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
That's difficult to do though, because we've been so accustomed
to this world of cheap things and plastics, the overarching
everything that's so environmentally difficult for us. But I do
hope some people hear that and have some hope that
there's still a possibility if they can make some necessary changes.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Totally, if you're listening to this and you have been
feeling frustrated or even hopeless, my statistics are better than
the fertility clinics for helping my clients get pregnant. And
so many clients have come and been like my doctor said,
I'll never get pregnant without IBF, or they've gone and
done four or five rounds of IBF with no success,
and then they get pregnant naturally three months later, beautiful,
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healthy baby pregnancy Like it is one hundred percent. If
only doing the conventional things is what you've been doing,
there's always something else to explore. And the other thing, too,
is a lot like this is somewhat related, but is
the eg quality conversation is as we get older, like
people talk about equality quite a bit, but just in
the same way that like you could be seventy and
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have two you could have two seventy year olds sitting
next to each other, one who didn't smoke cigarettes and
two took care of her skin was like treating her
body well, and then one who wasn't. And one woman
looks eighty and one woman looks fifty, right like ours,
we can have a different way of aging, and so
your fertility can have an age that's different than you.
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So there are so many things you can do with
antioxidants and like putting taking away oxidative stress in the
body and adding in more pro like res vitrol, for example,
is an amazing antioxidant that we see improve equality directly
because of the way that it reverses aging. So there's
so much that you can do and just like really
encouraging people to dive a little.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Deeper, yes, which is so much of what I feel
functional health is. And when you talk root causes, it's
to your point genuinely being open minded and willing to
try a new path that is probably not one that
you've heard a lot about, or one that you've been
deterred from taking, And so I really do appreciate that
side of things. I hope it give some hope out
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there just to try something new. I know trying new
things is hard, and doing things that are so vastly
different is also hard, but it's helpful and you're a
testament to that in so many ways, not just for you,
but also with clients you've worked with. I also want
to know, speaking of this realm of things, because hormones
also often get looped into this page, are there any
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habits that we're doing that are often influencing our hormones
or like our hormone behavior or the balance and what's
happening in there that we don't realize are impacting that.
Because I have a feeling based on a lot of
things you've told me, there are.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Definitely Some people probably have heard a lot about the
circadian rhythm, So this is one that I think is
so understated, Like people just don't realize how much it
impacts our hormones. When I started talking about big hormonal
impacts in the twentieth century that came on it was
birth control and modern lights like seriously like light bult
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or like the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, as I'm sitting here in front of very bright lights, like.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
We're all doing it. And it's one of those things
where there's like a couple little easy things that you
can do that really go a long way. The first
one is getting light early in the morning, like real
natural sunlight, going and opening your window and stating your
head out the window for two or three minutes, or
going and sitting and having your cup of tea or
cup of coffee on your front porch, or like prioritizing
getting the dog out earlier. Getting sunshine, which is that
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blue light but specifically from the sun on our eyeballs,
starts to set up our circadian rhythm for the day,
which is so connected to our hormone system. So really
easy thing that you can do. So if you're someone
who just like stays inside for the first couple hours
of the day, no one's thinking about that, but that
is really potentially impacting your hormones. This is another actual,
just like little thing that I learned recently at a conference.
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This woman was describing it in such a beautiful way,
thinking again back to like ancestral times. If we were inside,
we were hiding. So even though you think that it's
like cozy and nice and whatever in your house, like
our bodies thrive on being outside. And so just like
the cord is all the stress hormone impacts all of
our other hormones. So spending more time outside in general
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throughout the day as much as you can is awesome.
So if it's easy enough to like take your tea
and drink it outside instead of inside, do it.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
And that's also why I feel like we when I
go and spend out time outside in the sunshine, I
come back and I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Just a happy person.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Like your body feels that way when you're outside and
connected with nature.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It is so important. And yeah, and we're getting like
you're breathing, like your outdoor era is much cleaner than
you're in, and there's just so much. And then on
the circadian rhythm side, in the evenings, blue light in
the evening, and like we all think of like blue
light from our computers, Like I feel like that's not
like a new thing. People are like, oh, yeah, I
know I shouldn't be like all my device at night,
But it's more than that. It's like your light bulbs,
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and so switching your light bulbs out to the Edison
style bulbs, which was like the original light bulb where
it's more yellow and light and less of the led
and white makes a huge difference. They also have all
these like smart light bulbs now that you can switch
them to be red in the evening, like just on
your phone, which is cool because the red light is amazing.
Or you can just be super dorky like me and
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I have these like actual blue light blocking glasses, but
they're not the clear ones that are cool. Mine are
like orange. They look like I look like I'm just
like parting these like dorky orange glasses. My husband makes
so much fun of me, and I'm like, I don't care.
My norm worlds are better for it, and I sleep
so much better. I noticed that there was a couple
days last week where my son had misplaced them and
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I couldn't find them, and I did not sleep nearly
as well. So the biggest habit, I would say, is
like your lighting, and there's a couple really easy fixes,
and then you don't worry about it if you're at
someone else's house having a good time at night, Like
who cares You're enjoying your life. But if eighty percent
of the time just normal days in and days out,
you're getting sunshine in the morning and red light at night,
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it'll be really helpful.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And you can also be like me because she did say,
make the lights not be led, And I put little
Christmas lights on one of my trees, and it's the
warm lighting and that's all I ever have on at
night and makes it cozy. That's all I leave on
and it's always like perfect, And I do feel like
I sleep better when I utilize that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
That's amazing. I'm so happy to do that. And also
like candle lighting. I actually have a friend who has
three kids, and she did this experiment where once it
became dark outside, especially in the winter when it was earlier,
they only used candles at night, which is like a
commitment to just set that up. She said they noticed
that their kids weren't hyper at night anymore. That like
they enjoyed dinner so much more. Everything was so much calmer.
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And it's that same idea. So get your vibes on
and be cozy with it. For sure. This is perfect.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
You can go red light, you can go glasses, you
can go Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Candles.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
It can still be fun even though you're helping and
changing your body.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Okay, Stephanie, I feel like I could talk to you
all day about all of these things in your knowledge.
I love to end on whether it be just a
very big piece of advice, maybe something we didn't touch on,
or something motivational you want to leave us on.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I like to end our episodes on something fun.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And informational, motivational, inspirational, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Oh my god, this is so fun and it's so
open ended that I'm like, where could I go? Let's see.
I think what I want to share is that you,
like every person listening to this, Yes, your body is
super unique, but it is not rocket science to get
it to function optimally. And so often I think that
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we've been just like fed this story that things are normal,
painful periods, not having energy, acting whatever, the things are right,
the things that make us not feel perfect in our bodies,
when we need to recognize that common is not normal
just because it's common. It's not normal, and you don't
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have to settle for common, like you don't have to
be common, you get to be special, and so like, really,
if you are stuck and feeling like, Oh, I have
all of these common things and I know they're not normal.
Follow that calling, because so much waits for you on
the other side.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Oh see, this is a perfect thing to end on.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
This is an inspirational, motivational, and informative.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
This is important. Thank you, Stephanie for being here. I
really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Thanks for having me Morgan. This was super fun.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
If you love this episode and want to connect with Stephanie,
you can go to at Stephanie Adler Wellness with an
f in Stephanie on Instagram or Stephanieadler dot com again
with that f in, Stephanie, thanks for being here. Happy
to share fun new people with you guys and expose
us all to some good life lessons and information. So
I will talk with you guys next week.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Love you bye,