1st & 25

1st & 25

The Football Zebras staff conducts a 25-minute roundtable discussion on NFL officiating. Fits right in your lunch break for appointment listening!

Episodes

February 10, 2026 25 mins
A look at some stories from the 2025 season and how Shawn Smith's crew handled the big game
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Conference Championship edition
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Can one be a catch and the other an interception?
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A look at the Wild Card Playoffs and the Quarterfinal and Semifinal bowl games
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January 13, 2026 25 mins
3-time Super Bowl referee Bernie Kukar is our guest this week
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January 6, 2026 25 mins
The Sugar Bowl had the longest second in sports in recent memory
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As the NFL season wraps up, we take a look at how playoff assignments take shape
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Taking a closer look at what is "clear and obvious"
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December 10, 2025 25 mins
Plus, packing up after the season is done and another Hall of Fame snub
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Plus, reining in a game that gets out in front of the crew
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On this episode of the 1st & 25 podcast, we get ready for Thanksgiving by talking about high school rivalries that play on Thanksgiving morning that don’t count in the standings, but are must-win games. Our own Pat Weber shared his experience as the referee for the Chicago’s storied Prep Bowl, and who he worked that game with and an officiating legend who shares his unique legacy. We...
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When officials get knocked down, a penalty must be enforced
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Plus, regional mechanics in high school become evident in postseason
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Plus, quick takes on missed false starts, intentional grounding, and an unfortunate 5th down
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Also, a tush-push fumble didn't happen, and the replay assist function raised some questions
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We also covered pass interference and end-of-game fouls
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A failed trick play, a game suspended early, and when a huge mistake is made
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Also substitution tactics are getting scrutiny
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Reviewing penalty options, celebrating too soon, and broadcasters who know the rules
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The crew discusses presnap mechanics for substitutions and ball spotting
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