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June 3, 2022 50 mins

Fi and Jane are live at the Hay Festival and joined by writer Laura Bates, founder of Everyday Sexism. They're also accompanied by an audience under the BBC Marquee in a field in Hay-on-Wye, Wales. Laura talks to Fi and Jane about her new book, Fix the System, Not the Women, looking at solving society's ingrained misogyny. She also reflects on a decade of cataloguing women's through the Everyday Sexism project. Before Laura joins them on stage, Fi remembers her time as a playing card and Jane's post has given her a bit of an emotional roller-coaster ride.

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